Ask Dr. Drew - Even The MSM Is Concerned “Left-Wing Terrorism Is on the Rise” & Europe Is Not Far Behind w/ France’s André Bercoff & Comedian Jeff Dye – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 538

Episode Date: October 5, 2025

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And then the one and only Jeff Dye. His new pot is Die Hard, his new podcast. He is here with me in studio. And Jeff may jump in a little bit during the Andre Burk. There is Jeff right there during the Doug, during the Andre Burkhoff interview. So we got a lot to get into today. We're watching on the restream and, of course, over with the Rumble Rants. And we will see you after this.

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And I was looking for a way to just improve my French, and I just always try to find things that interest me. And now I'm a daily listener. Please welcome Andre Berkov. Hello, thank you for receiving me. I'm sure, really, tellment. So, you during the, when we were sort of chatting offline here a little bit before we started, you mentioned the First Amendment in this country and how important it is that we have

these prescriptions in the law for the right to free speech. and I'm going to frame it and you're going to tell us how they do it in France and I was a little surprised here that there's a commission this sounds like Orwellian to us when you say there's a commission but then I think to myself

well in France you guys have a language police you have the Academy of Frances you have people that you know since the Napoleonic area that police stuff like language and that's specifically for the beauty of the language not just for the language content

but you'll tell me about a second But I just want to say this one thing, that a Frenchman came over here in 1822 to look at democracy in America. His name was de Tocqueville, an aristocrat. And he, one of his analyses of the First Amendment was, yes, this is one of the most extraordinary prescriptions in law. And yet as a practical matter, the Americans have less free speech than everybody else because of something he called the Town Square, which is now become cancellation and all. that nonsense. Tell me how we're different here as compared to France. The difference is this as your cancellation and we will talk certainly about walk, kism and cancel culture. The difference is that the freedom in France, you see, I follow, like I follow some of the great, you know,

When I say loudspeakers, loudspeakers in literal sense from Joe Rogan, Alex Jones, Nick Verde, Nick Fuentes and all these. The thing is, better or for worse, for worse, they say anything, but they say it. In France, you have a commission. It's very important to say that. You see, when I'll tell you something very, very factual, and you'll tell you. when in the beginning of the COVID the YouTube okay you know YouTube of course if we said in France

Ivermectine or hydroxyroquin all this and that we were cut they say no no no no no you can't think about that no no no you have the general language is the Aryan vaccines this is

the truth and anyone who say that maybe there are some questions that can be asked about that you were at the right of adult Hitler. I can't tell you in 2020, 2020, it was like that. And I'm not exaggerating. So we fought. We fought. I say, look, I'm not a doctor. I'm not a physician. I'm not a microbiologist, but I went to speak and to interrogate and to ask some people who know what they are saying. Maybe they're wrong. Maybe they're right. But let us hear them.

And it was really a fight, really a fight about that. Well, I don't know if you may be surprised. Let me just say, you may be surprised. We had the exact same thing here. And the Biden administration was actually putting pressure on people like YouTube to cancel people like me. So if we used a word like ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine, and I am a physician. And I might be talking to another physician. We would get canceled immediately.

And so there was a number of us that were sort of affected by all this. And they have names now. So I made a point of interviewing all of them back in 2020 and 2021. And they have names now that you would recognize. Their names are Marty Macquarie, J. Bottacharya, RFK Jr. They were all canceled. And they've come now full circle where these are the guys that are. in charge. But it was the government that was putting pressure on the private companies to cancel

people. And that's where things were way off the rail here. Absolutely. Well, I know, I know that the United States, you have the same thing. So your first amendment don't protect you, doesn't protect you of everything. But we remember that we have some channels, you know, that say this commission that I'm talking about, say, look, you must absolutely take. You must absolutely take care about the climate, about this, about climate change and everything, you know, the heating of the planet. He said, no, no, don't talk about that.

Don't talk about that. Follow the government rules. You know, it was Orwellian. It was really Orwellian. Big Brother was talking and Big Brother is right because he knows what he does. I'll tell you one example. We have a one prime minister.

He's not anymore, thank God. But he said, look, you can with the COVID. You can go at a coffee, but don't drink coffee on your feet. Sit down. If you don't sit down because the virus goes at one meter of 50, you know? So if when you're sitting down, you don't have the COVID.

The virus can't reach you. I mean, you reach such stupidity and then some foolishness. Yes. But that was California too. We could go to the beach, but we couldn't sit on a towel. Do you remember this, Jeff? If you sat on a towel, you would be, you would be, The poorest life cards had to run around and sanction everybody.

It was very polite. It would wait for you to sit down at the diner table and take your mask off, and then it wouldn't affect it. You're right. Or on an airplane, if you can pull it down, but then if you stop eating, you've got to pull it up. It's so, so dumb. If you're a Christmas party, if you're a Christmas party, if you have your grandfather put him in the kitchen, your daughter will be on the other roof. And your sister will be up the roof. You must not stay together.

So the virus is so polite that it won't affect you at a protest for Black Lives Matter. Right, right. It will stay out of that because racial issues are very important. Polite virus. So to this craziness, you know, you've adopted so much this happening over here, including you already have used the word wokeism and far right, which are things that I don't even know what they mean anymore. And you pointed that out today on your show.

In fact, you had an academic who was saying that explicitly. But you have another thing. is you have, and I don't think people talk about this over here, you have lawfare, and you have Marine Le Pen and you have Sarkozy, both the objects of lawfare. And I have a French couple. I talked to a couple weeks ago, and I go, what's going on? It was before Sarkozy was found guilty. And so, what's going on Marine Le Pen? And they said, same thing, same thing, lawfare, we do it too. That's it. What is, what do you feel about Sarkozy? Well, Sarkozy, we can talk a length about Sarkozy. Sarkozy made something politically that I don't like at all, you know. With the last referendum, you know, the last election where you talk about the people,

I don't know if you have a referendum in the United States. It's like Switzerland. You know, you ask the people, after two, democracy by the people, for the people. You know that. So the last time we made a referendum was in 2007-5. And they asked the French people, do you want a European constitution that will reign on you? 55% of them say no.

And they say, well, I don't care. They sat on that. And it was the last of the referendum asking the people. And was Sarkozy who sat on that now politically. Now it was against, but this is not the case now. The case is some judges, hey, Sarkozy, wanted to have a to to make points with him and they punished him for that and it is really the problem now we don't have a political majority so it's the judges it's a law but which law that govern today so it's a really tricky about that if they don't like this and this and they will choose you know if you're an ally if we like you either jocally politically we won't touch you. If you are, we consider you our enemy, well, we'll put you in jail. So, you know,

the democracy thing is something very, very, very tricky these days. Yeah. And I've got a lot to say about all that. But, you know, one of the thing about Sarcos, I heard him in an interview once talking about that first, that first hostage situation he walked into when I guess he was mayor or something I was really shocked I was like it's just sounded awful I guess was a school being shot up or something he just walked into to try to and and he said something very courageous they they you know very courageous but he said something that worried me he said I don't have fear and I thought oh is he a sociopath because only sociopath don't have fear and I thought uh-oh so that worried me about him but he's very smart dude I was really kind of impressed

with his whole analysis of things. Yeah. But the other interesting thing about your country is, except for your show. Well, sometimes on your show too, I swear to God, 10 minutes, certainly on the TV like Europe on, all those other places, 10 minutes don't go by before the word 1789 doesn't come out of somebody's mouth. Even before the rights of man, just 1789, 17.89. There's like a preoccupation with it

And I don't think they know that over here We look at that as sort of a catastrophe You know, certainly 1794 was a catastrophe And so to idolize that How do I understand that? Well, they don't, it's part of history, you see? We have some people, the monarchist, but very, very people now,

Oh, la la, that was a catastrophe, effectively in 1789. No, 78, 89, well, we can talk two hours about that, Dr. Zhu. It was something that, you know, it was what we call the Enlightenment, you know, Diderot, Voltaire, Talambere, all these people. Yes. And the, I mean, you know, I mean, talk will talk about that after. So they were for liberty. They wanted that not only the nobles and the clergymen and the priests have the power. They wanted. So it was not the people, I mean the people, not the workers, not the peasants, but the bourgeoisie wanted power.

They didn't have at this time. They took power. It was a bourgeoisie coup. And the problem is they cut the head of the king. That was the king. It was, well, it was a big, big, big thing for five years. Many people didn't want to kill the kings. They said, no, we must do that, you see? in France I'll tell you we have this thing between conservatives but not in the sense of America like we

say liberals liberals not in the sense of America people say we must make the revolution you know it was it's a language but it's like a mantra revolution revolution revolution don't nobody do revolution for 50 years and when Mittera our president came said oh the left the left is gone

there's no left anymore There is no left. They mimic the left. They play that the other left. But it's Canada right. It's Erzac left, you see. So everybody is... So that's a problem in France,

but we have a problem of debt, terrible debt, like you have two, but you have a problem in a problem. You have a problem in community, communitarism. You know, I think that you were talking with David before about, you know, who assimilates.

who wants to be in France, who speak on France, we have these problems. And this is the problem. These are the problems that really now are shaking the country. Yes, I hear about it every day on your show. One quick question while I'm thinking of it. When the USAID scandal was exposed and the amount of money that was being squandered or whatever was happening to it, you had a huge reaction to that. You called it hallucinating.

The French used that word a little bit more liberally than we do here. And then you kind of left it behind. You stopped talking about it. Is there a reason why you started? Because I felt like you had this very strong reaction, and I haven't heard it since. No, not at all. I'll tell you why. Because we began, and this was our lesson from America,

we began to talk about our French AID, because we have the same problem, Not in a whole huge sums, but we have the same problem. I will tell you, we, we, France, France, give aid for five years. We gave $100 million to China, China, poor China, starving China. We paid $100 billion a year to China. We paid something for Africa to mend the roads. And we have hospitals that are crumbling. We have people living on the streets.

We have people sleeping in their cars because they go out of the money. You have the agriculture or peasants. They take $1,000 a year, a month, I'm sorry, a month. And there are, you know, 8 million people in France are under poverty. They are not starving, but it's under poverty. And so we spend. And the state, you know, and the state is us, they spend, they spend. That's why we didn't leave U.S.AID, but our French AID was absolutely like yours.

Where does the money go? I see. This is an incredible amount of money. Nobody knows where. I mean, you have these bureaucrats. We know. We know better than you. You know, the thing is, what is, we are the good people.

We know better than you. You don't know you're a little child. Or four years old. We know better that they let us, let us govern and you keep, keep on your, on your bed or on your side, you know. Which is the opposite of the, the opposite of the principles we're talking about from 1789, the sovereignty of the people, which is the exact opposite of that. But you were saying it's fortuitous that we're talking today because you were talking to a guy today about the uncoupling, I guess was Mitterrand that did it, uncoupling from capitalism, and coupling from enlightenment and then the post-structuralism that creeped in. I remember listening to a French philosopher like eight years ago,

and she was like, I am mystified by the United States preoccupation with post-structuralism. We have no place for them. They're from 50 or 60 years ago, and they're just, they were not useful. Foucault was not wrong. It was just wrong. And now the French are re-embracing it, and I'm worried that that's because of us. And so my question is, how do you guys see the United States? How does the French perceive us?

They're starting to adopt things that we're doing. I don't know if they know it. Very interesting. I'll tell you, they see you with attraction and repulsion. I mean, they all tell you, they won't tell you publicly. Well, everything that's happening in America comes to France 10 years or 15 years later. It's not like that always, but it's like that. But the other thing is that as you are now changing a little, more than a little, about work, about cancel culture,

I see that transgender in the army is now the fad today. We are changing too. You know, the problem is very simple. French I'll go back not to 1789 Metro Marxism and communism Don't forget that

50 years ago French were communists the Communist Party drew well 30% of the votes It's very popular Today the Communist Party

is 1% of the votes I mean the proletia The workers are not at all now on the left or on the Communists because they saw what happened and they completely drew to Marine Le Pen and all other parties. So the people say, what are we doing? So the left went on LGBTQ, on women. I mean, you know, feminism, on immigrants, on communitarism, you know, the wretched of the earth and this. That's, you know, black lives matter and everything. It's a trend, but this trend now

made a reaction because the French are, he says, who are we? Who are we? You in US states, okay, you have now a sort of war, and don't say civil war, session war, between the deep state and the people who say, enough with the deep state.

We, we say, what's going on in Europe? You know, we are fighting with Ukraine, we land the arms, a hundred billion dollars, okay, but for what? For what? Are we going to send soldiers in Ukraine? So people are complete, I will tell you, really, completely lost.

And they don't know where they live, where they have it. And that's a big, big problem now in France. And they're watching Trump, they're watching America and they want to know where it's going. Yeah, it must be mystifying because it's a little misdifying to us too. But I've noticed the youth are coming back around to Melanchon, which is also hallucinating. Because he is like, I mean, compared, I mean, I just, he talks. And I just thought, oh, my God, he'll say anything. Melancho, you know what?

Melancho is a grocer, is a grocer. He said, where I, my people who will vote for me. Exactly like Chuck Schumer, let's say all the illegals that sort of have ID and they vote for, who will vote for Democrats, the illegals. And Melancho is exactly like that. Melancho is a French Chuck Schumer. I mean, to sum it up in a way. So he wants that all the people.

all the immigrants and everyone. But he's got somebody, somebody, I'm amazed by young people have sort of gravitated to him though. But, you know, I know exactly what you're talking about. I'm going to kind of wrap up with this. And you've been very kind with your time. I know it's late in the evening there.

I was listening. I listened to, I watched the movie Napoleon. And I thought to myself, well, that's not what happened. So I'm going to find out what did happen. So I started listening to French scholars and a guy named Tiri Lens. and a guy named Emmanuel Verescal, and Verescal, particularly, he started saying, you know, the so-called dark, what do they call it, the dark, dark triad, legend,

the dark legend of Napoleon is that he was, you know, that he allowed slavery to go on in a certain part of the West Indies. And this guy, Emmanuel said, he goes, yeah, yeah, that happened, but that's because there was a royalist uprising. And they used, the slaves were owned by the royalists and he couldn't do anything about it. He couldn't free the, he would love to free the slave. Anyway, the point is that he then said, you know, we have completely, you know, sort of scratched Napoleon out of our history books in some people's minds, Melanchon. And in fact, he's part of who we are. And we need to really embrace what our history has been, all of it, and what it means to be French. I heard that about five years ago, and I thought, oh, something is happening in France.

Something is happening. It's slow, and you're talking about it today, but I think it's happening. Yeah, what's happening, I'll tell you, but it will not go without what's happening in Europe. You see, I think, look, what's happening now in Hungary, in, what's happening in England, in England, where if you take the English flag, you're in prison or you're jail and everything. I mean, people ashamed of their own identity, of their own flag, of their own origin.

This has been going through all this canceled culture and all this. Because you have people, you know, they say left or right. It's finished. Left or right is another thing. It's the patriots, the identity, still the mondialists. It's Soros. That's interesting. Well, that's it, you know.

And that's what is going on at various stages in the world today. And in France, anyway. It's very interesting. Jeff, you have any questions? We've covered a lot of interesting territory here. I'm just glad you guys disavowed that Joaquin-Fenix-Napolian movie. It was terrible. It was terrible.

It was terrible. The whole movie is just about how his wife cheated on him while he was the way of battle. It really was very, very weird. I left the movie gone. I should be mad at Napoleon. Not women. Not the best film about Napoleon to tell you the truth. Not the best thing.

I was like, who wrote this movie, Napoleon? Yeah, I really thought to myself, well, that didn't happen. I'm not sure what did happen. That didn't happen. Terrible. Yeah, but it got me looking at the facts and reading some stuff and getting into it. So I appreciate that. I think that about cover

I can just keep talking to you all day because I think of things during your show a lot and I told Andre before the show that if remember we interviewed Beatrice Rosen who was Spitz Fire she was in Charmed I think she's a French American actress and she is saying

it's time for a cesium republic she's done with it I don't know if that's a minority opinion out there but she's so mad at Macron She's like, let's go for a sixth republic. Let's forget it. Start over again.

Is that a minority opinion over there? Well, I don't think this is the most important thing, Sisiab Republic, if we have the same clowns as we have the Sankham. It's not a question of number. It's a question about who will have the stamina who will have, I'll tell you in Spanish, it's better, who will have the coronis, the courage, the voters. You can say the balls here.

Because this is, this is the internet. It's not radio, it's the internet. It's the radio, you can't say that. I'll tell you what the French president say. You know, the most important surgery now, it's the, the graph, what is the, you know, the, transplant. The most important surgery in France is the transplants of goals, of balls. And somebody said, yes, we are the donors.

So the big question is, where are the donors? We need donors. You know what? Yeah, we need more balls. I'm going to tell you something. It might come from ovaries because the women you have over there are starting to stand up and say stuff. And they can do it because they're from a protected class a little bit. And I've actually noticed that.

And I thought, oh, this could be where it comes from. Right. Well, women have more ovaries than men have balls. We'll see that anyway. What we need anyway is really a change of not the regime. The people, you know, it's so, it's sleepy. It's sleepy. It's really sleepy.

We have, look, we don't have Joe Biden, but we have auto pen now. That's a problem. I know, we had that. You understand what it went on me. Yes, we had it. We know what that is now. Yeah. So lastly, last thing I promise, I learned you spoke English when you interviewed a EU representative

and I was shocked at the amount of money that the lobbyists have and all the lobbyists and how they just can't, they don't do anything except respond to lobbyist, it seems like. That interview was shocking to me. But is Frexit on the table and closed me out with what you think about, the way the EU operates? Well, EU operate like a good mafia. You see,

EU is without Goulag, without prison, that's good. What USSR was in the, in the 50s, 60s and without, well, thank God,

without the prison and the gulag and all the thing. But Ursula von der Leyen, the way she vaccines and everything. I mean, this is terrible. I mean, France,

80% of the laws in France, are written made by the European Union, the commissars who are not elected. So I don't know if we can do the Brexit order, but it's not possible to stay in this situation where we are completely

you know, like a like what I say, like a statue, like a bronze statue, we don't know where we are. I told them that too. By the way, by the way about the people that you say the interview, I interviewed Trump but with the only journalist who interviewed Trump

in the first... Yeah, I read that. You know, I had that. And the interesting thing is at the epoch, it was eight years ago or nine years ago, and he told me how the thing, and interesting, where you are, where I am, that the mainstream media were dying,

was to continue to be dying. And like your show, like shows, this is where now we can hear a lot of things, and the public, even in France, they are much more informed. I don't say they're much more intelligent, but they must much more informed that they were 10, 15 years ago.

That's a good thing. Well, now you're canceled by half of our country now that we've learned that you spoke to Donald Trump. That is not allowed. I know, I know, I know. You know, my gosh. But that's a great place to stop. I have one vocabulary question, which is,

You refer to your callers as, for your callers as editor. Is that true? Are you, editor response to callers or producers or writers? How do you guys use that word? Edite. Editor, I mean, in the book, you know, it's somebody produced books. And we are, I mean, I consider myself, look, as a, how can I say, as a high speaker, as a, as a speaker, you know. I went to transmit.

I try to understand what's going on the word. like you and I like to transmit to people that's why and that that's and when people look stop at you in the street and say thank you thank you for it you're saying and thank you you are you are raising saving me you are really rescuing me wow say you're not working for nothing I I absolutely understand why people would do that for you because you've done the same for me and I hope people I hope people feel interested in learning more and keep an on you know what how we're perceived by the rest of the world and what's how what we have infected the rest of the world with and uh and that there are people out there fighting the good

fight and and and and and he brings on these if you i suppose you can watch it on youtube and there'd be some sort of translation you could get i listened to a couple episodes i didn't know what the hell he was talking about it doesn't in french i was i was baffled but i think you guys listen i susan found a program where they could transfer me into spanish it It looks like I'm speaking Spanish. It's crazy, an AI program. The AI you can do it. Yeah, AIA, yeah.

Andre, thank you so much. I really, I'm deeply honored, and I appreciate that you spent your time with us this evening, and I'll be listening to you tomorrow. And if you ever have, things, you have questions, or things we can do to help support you over there, because it's just, I think it's an important exchange. I just really do.

Right, right. And I will do it, and I'll receive you in my show, that we are going to do that in a short time. In French, it's very difficult for me. It's very difficult for me. Oh, no. As you want, you will talk

as you want, Drew, and we'll translate no problem. All right. I'll go back and forth. My French is a bit debil. Okay. Thank you so much, sir. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. All right. That, to me, was very, very interesting.

I thank you for sitting there while I did. It's just so interesting. Joe Rogan for nerds and I like I said listen to the episode. He didn't talk about UFC one time. The whole time. That's the point. It's for nerds. It's for me of like B that I like the UFC but I

want somebody like Andre. Yeah, it's just, it's, I don't know there's, I don't know what my instinct is so strong on this one that there's something there in us listening to people. He's great and he seems reasonable, which is the whole secret cup.

We don't have a lot of reasonable people anymore. But he comes. from a historical perspective. He's spoken to Castro and Mitterrand and Trump and all these people. And he's in their sort of, you heard what he said, they're lost and he's trying to fight his way back to something. And I think we're a little better off, but not a lot. Well, I used to always hear, oh, history will repeat itself,

history repeats itself. I've heard that so much that it was like this annoying cliche that my teacher said. But it's true. You see it happening all the time in different ways. I mean, whether it's political schemes and systems, of Marxism or communism or any of these things. They bring it back. Or if you just see it with cigarettes and then now with vapes or like you

just see these things repeat themselves. Guys like that are very, very important. It's like the collective memory is short. It's really what you're saying. And I think that's absolutely true. Okay. I don't want to talk too much like an old man here. So what I'm going to do is

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What are they going to experience when they get there? It's on every platform. Wherever you listen to a podcast, you can listen to my podcast or you could watch it on YouTube, but it's on Spotify. It's on Apple. It's on everything. Just me talking. I don't have any guess.

I got a lot to say, so I just share it on there. That's really hard to do, but I don't people appreciate. I want you to go for an hour? About an hour, yes. Sometimes like 40 minutes, sometimes it's an hour, sometimes a little over an hour. But like, as a comedian, we have so many things rumbling around in our brains. And we just, we're up there talking alone. And so for the podcast, I've had other podcasts where there's like a game or there's a gimmick or a guest.

And this was just a much more therapeutic way for me to just share what I'm thinking. Do you remember when Bill Burr used to have a daily? He used to do it from a pay phone or something and he would record it. It was just sort of, I don't remember where he even showed up. Bill Burr is one of, he's on my Mount Rushmore of stand-up comics. I think he's a genius. I think he's one of the greatest comics that's ever lived. I've criticized him on a lot of his political takes publicly and privately.

That's fine. But he's a genius. And he's very, very good at what we do. And he was my inspiration for that. I was like, dude, I'm just going to go into a studio and talk, you know? He would do it every day. He had to talk. And he was so good.

And everything we said, every time, it was like, Jesus, there's something really insightful here. And sometimes he's just rambling about a show he watched with his wife. And then sometimes it's very heavy stuff. And I love that. Who was on the Mount Rushmore? For me, personally, Norm MacDonald, Patrice O'Neill, Dave Chappelle, Bill Burr. Like, those are the four.

Chappelle. I mean, incredible. How about Pryor? He's maybe a little before your time. Well, I like Pryor, and I like George Carlin. And I like all those, like the forefathers, if you would. will. But by the time I was in comedy, so many comics had ripped off Carlin and Richard Pryor that they sounded like hacks to me. I would be like, well, this guy just sounds like so and so.

And they're like, yeah, but Pryor was first. He's like blazed that trail. Yeah, I absolutely agree. That's interesting. But Chappelle, I don't know. I don't think we would have found our way out of COVID without Chappelle. They're so good. Gene is a hero. Well, and they've got to be like, that's what I like most about like Bill Burr, older Bill Burr stuff. and then Chappelle and these things. It's like they have the right to be wrong. You know, as long as it's funny and they're giving these takes,

but they've got to be brave enough to be willing to be wrong. Oh, yeah. Like, I don't know, going to Riyadh, you know, like, and performing for the Saudis. Who knew that this was going to be maybe a bad look or whatever they're doing? Do you have an opinion about it? You've kind of just got to do things and see how it shakes out. What do you think about that?

I think it's a wild choice for them to go do it, you know. I don't oh I'm going to get myself in trouble but the Saudis I understand the Muslim Brotherhood was maybe behind the whatever the Saudis themselves are not our enemy they are our ally we have golf there we have wrestling there we have and they have helped us I would argue that the Peace Accord the Abraham Accord would not have happened without them right they consistently come to our assistance I mean we have differences good right so I don't understand what the what the big deal was so am i missing it uh no you're not missing anything you're 100% right i would have went there full disclosure if they'd have paid me to go to there like any other

comedy festival i would have went i'm saying that wouldn't it be a goodwill is that good difference is some comics are pretty preachy on their soapbox about things about uh women's rights gay rights LGBT the uh Israel Palestine I actually don't know but I don't know how bad the Saudis are with that stuff? Are they cowlwires? They're not crazy feminists. No, they're not. I'm sure they're not.

But they would allow that material, maybe? I'm not sure. I mean, I might be talking to school. I was just saying it might be for certain comics who say certain things look a little hypocritical to take a bunch of money from the Saudis. Bill, it seems to have a lot of strong opinions about white billionaires. But he seems to be fine with trillionaires who live in Saudi Arabia, you know, whatever. Whatever it is.

I would go. I have no problem. But I'm also pretty insensitive about these subjects on stage. So no one would call me a hypocrite for going there, you know. So I want to tell you a quick Norman McDonald's story. I tell everybody this Norm fan. It's my favorite norm story. I knew him a bit. We'd see him here and there.

And I went to see a stand up here at the Ice House in Pasadena. And he was up with Fred Stoller. Fred was touring around with him. And he gets up, his first thing, he gets up. He goes, eh, you know, I just love Bill Cosby. I'm sorry, guys. I just love that guy. I love everything about him.

I really fashion my entire life of Bill Cosby and everything he does, everything except his comedy. I love it. Dude is a legend. One of my greatest regrets was not getting to meet Norm before he passed because I had many opportunities. Like we were both in the same industry. I could have gotten tickets so easily.

I could have got on a plane or in a car and I never got to him. He, a great guy. Yeah. But exactly what you expect. I mean, distracted and all over the place. I had a dream. where I met him. And like, I never talk about my dreams. It's such like a girl thing to be

like, I had this dream. You are sexist. I couldn't show. A sexist would say. Oh, no, women definitely talk about their dreams. I don't think I'm talking out of school. I woke up and I told my buddy, I was like, I met Norm in my dream. And it's funny because in the dream I was telling Norm, like, I'm a huge fan. I watched your show.

And I was like, you know, that show you had? And even in my dream, he was like, yeah, you sound like a true fan. because I couldn't come up with the name of what I was. He would give you shit immediately. Oh, so great. That's exactly what I met him. Yeah, well, maybe, you know, Susan thinks you did.

So, right? I think he did what? Yeah, he actually met Norma Talbotel because he visited him in a dream. Oh, yeah, for sure. No, he's visiting you now. I love it. That made me happy. I heard that.

Sorry, I was doing some of him. So during the commercial break, we were talking about something that André Burkhoff said about the world's view, at least the French view of us with both envy and disgust. Yeah, it's hilarious to me. So tell, give me, and by the way, we have another guy we follow named Salty Cracker that comes on the show all the time that does also an hour just monologue by himself. And I just, when you guys can do that, I'm just like, oh my God, and do it and entertain

and do it again and again and again. That's phenomenal. Envy and disgust. I just think it's funny because I think that that's how a lot of people view America. Like, they hate us, but then they also like come here and they love it and they want to live here. I don't know if it's 100% jealousy, but like the rest of the world treats America

like the way we treat Vegas. Like, they go there and like, oh, I want a place, you know? But then when they go back, they can't stop talking about Vegas. They show everyone the pictures of Vegas. We were wild and carefree. And it's kind of like, you know, he was talking about like they don't even have

the First Amendment the way we do. That's right. And so like, in a lot of way, people, I'm French, I'm proper. But then there is this envy of like, why I want to be kind of like those cowboys where Alex Jones and Joe Rogan can speak loudly. I think. Yeah. Yeah, that's interesting.

I think you're on to something there. There's a freedom there. It's the freedom. And yet, I think our freedom is in jeopardy. It's being impinged upon. So I want to say something, I'm trying to synthesize all this, right? So I'm going to say the freedom is fundamentally the thing. That's it. Yeah. That's it. And that if we don't maintain our, I mean, there are limits of freedom, to be fair. I understand that. but if we don't understand our maintain our priority and freedom and defend freedom at all costs

we lose the game 100% that's it yeah yeah I agree with that I feel like free speech is where you can really see it you know it's the most it's the easiest one to look at when I worked at MTV we would get letters all the time we had a prank show it was very naughty

it was very like it was basically impractical jokers but very very edgy and like inappropriate it was called money from strangers and we were We would just do wild stuff. And every letter, every email that we got that was like, this is smut, this should be off the air, this is insensitive, was from old conservatives. Oh, you kidding? I love that we fought it for 20 years.

I fought the right for 20 years. And not only just on the smut, but also I was advocating for morning after contraceptives. Yes. And I was talking about the HPV vaccine. Yes. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I would literally in my green room think,

who do these old conservatives think they are trying to censor us? And being holier than that, thinking that they're so great. It's completely switched. The people complaining now are young people who are self-identifying liberals, self-identifying Marxists at times, and saying, you can't say that about this group, and you can't say that. And that collects to an idea.

and you're contributing to an idea that's very dangerous to me. And your speech threatens my safety. Threatens my existence. Yes. It's all. It's hate. So if you wonder why I made a big shift to speak out because I'm a pretty passionate guy about free speech, it's our job.

We're comedians, my livelihood. Every penny I have is based on free speech. So I'm going to be pretty passionate against anyone in the old days the right and in the new days the left about saying you can't say that about such and such. I have strong opinions about that. Good. Keep them going. Keep standing up for them because it's so easy to see where it's such a clear thing, free speech. I mean, people, the Second Amendment and whatnot, but yeah, okay, but the one that we can all should be able to get behind is just speech.

Speech. Is it crazy in France? They have a commission. It sounds in Orwellian. It's insane to me. It's insane. Yeah. They get to decide what you get to say. Patrice used to have a great thing. Patrice O'Neill, look him up. If nobody's heard of this guy, he's one of the greatest minds in comedy, at least I've ever, I've ever witnessed or been around to. he used to do this thing where he's like, why can't I hate you? Right. Don't hurt him.

Don't punch him. But why can't I hate you? That's protected. I can hate you. Now, I don't have subscribed to that. I love everyone, but why can't I joke about you? I can joke about anything.

I am a stand-up comic. So it's kind of this idea of like we've lost sight of what we can and can't do in these things. I said this a few times before publicly, but like if you showed young people, This is a new development. If you showed young people just someone being sucker punched in the street, just knocked out on the concrete,

a hundred students would say that is wrong. Yes. But if you told those hundred students, what if I told you right before he got punched out? He said a racial slur. Now all the kids will go, well, then that's fine. F around and find out. There's social consequences.

That's the dangerous thing that I'm witnessing in young people and on the left is that we've now made a caveat to like, well, if you're being sexist, then that's what you get. If you're being transphobic, then I think it's great he got punched. And you go, no, nobody should be punching. Nobody should be shooting. No one should be hurting. And I think they go a little further, which is anybody who has any opinions that even

skate around those areas, they build them into a cartoon character that they can just do away with if they want, no big deal. Yeah, well, he's a fascist, so it's good. And the people, I don't know if you're aware, but Stalin is the one that invented this calling everyone, he doesn't agree with him, a fascist. He invented that. And now it's happening everywhere. Yeah.

You don't agree with me, you're a fascist. What? I don't know how we got it. Like, words mean nothing now. I know. I even asked my friend recently, a very, very funny comedian, Finesse Mitchell. I said, oh, this is he put up the left wing terrorism thing that just came out on Axios. It turns out that essentially if you cut out, I think, terrorism per se, or group terrorism,

the left violence is going up, up, up. Yeah. Yeah, which we shouldn't have any of that. There should be none of that. But your friend, I interrupt you. So I asked my friend Finesse Mitchell, very funny comedian, look him up as well. I said, well, what is racist? What does it mean?

Is telling a joke, right? So, like, let's say I go on stage and I tell a racist joke. Does that make me a racist? And he's like, well, is Don Rickles a racist? Yeah, exactly. So what if you are holding someone from a job? Like, does that person consider it? Where do you draw the line of what it is?

We don't even have a clear definition of what these words are anymore. What is a fascist to you? I drive a cyber truck. Does that make me a racist fascist? Why do you are fascists beforehand? Well, comedically, that's very funny. But there are people in my neighborhood flipping me off and carving schwastikas on cars because they believe someone is a thing.

So we've, like, again, just getting back to free speech of why it's so important is because we're losing sight of definitions, we're losing side of words, and we're losing side of what people should even be able to talk about. Yeah. I mean, one of the, who was it that mentioned? I guess it's Ben David in the opening segment that when you do our genetic heritages, we are way more

interrelated than imagine. But they're even mistaken that, sorry to interrupt it, but they're even mistaking that. There are young people who believe every black person must have come from slavery. Oh, wow. I mean, they'll just be like, well, we came, we got, it's like, no, that's very...

But it gets even weird, though, by the way. But it's kind of weirder if you go, no, no, no, yes, yes, you had a relative was a slave, but... Maybe. But you also had the white guy, a slave owner. Yeah.

So that's even weird. How do people reconcile that? That's in your blood. That's so hard. But the other thing that's even more difficult, and I'm not taking an opinion of, this is above my pay grade, but anthropologists point out that we don't have a biological definition of race. We just didn't even know what we don't.

It's a phenotype. It's a presentation. Yeah. But the genotype, all over the place. And so we don't really even know. I think that's good news. I would think so. See, race is that important.

Well, I really don't. I, like, I don't categorize my friends by their hair color or their height or any of these things. I find race to be somewhat trivial. I live in America. All my friends are, you know, Americans by proxy of some place. But, like, we kind of don't really spend that much time thinking about it. I mean, we joke and we make things about, like, stereotypes because that's what we've been taught and that's funny to us. But other than that, like, don't really care.

I wonder if some of this is a proxy for a class. tensions. You know what I mean? Yeah. It could be that. Because it's somebody's using it for their advantage. Yeah. Well, it's a leverage of power. Like it's a strange thing. But like I just, I find it fascinating like that, like people go, why are you so political? Why did you

get into this? I'm like, well, that's how this has all come to be. Is like now that we're talking about what we should and shouldn't talk about. That's why I'm in it now. You weren't political. I thought it wasn't political. But you were like me. You were fighting the right. Yeah. And so I consider myself liberal. You would have been liberal.

Yeah. 100% liberal. my whole life, yes. And then all of a sudden you're being silenced by your team or I couldn't tell who was. It was odd. Very strange. And it feels like a lot of it, a lot of the excess is trumped arrangement. Like it really started in 2016. I agree with that.

I do think that even the way that they speak, and when I say they, I don't even know who I'm saying when I say they, but there are people that will, they say MAGA, like it's some crazy. I don't even know what it is. Yeah, they use it as like another word for like the KKK or something. They talk about, oh, the MAGA does this. The MAGA does that. Like people don't even identify as MAGA.

I think some people do, but I don't really know them. I wouldn't hang out probably. Maha, I know a lot of Maha people. I know those guys. I find it just, I find it very, very fascinating that like, I've had to say this multiple times, but like people claim they hate religion, but then they treat their politics.

like religion. They're treating their being a lefty or a righty as their religious act. I wouldn't date someone that thinks like that or I wouldn't even hang out with someone. That's a religious act. You're acting like zealots. And I don't I said on my own podcast which

thank you for promoting diehard where I'm like, I don't pray to Donald Trump. I voted for him yes because the other person who we only have two people basically otherwise you're throwing your vote away. When I voted for Donald Trump is because the other person

was talking about how terrible our country is and about how we need to tear down these systems and she's holding hands with actual Marxists and all these different things and I don't like that. So I just picked the guy who at least told me while he's speaking that he likes our country and he likes all people.

And so that's what I liked. I don't pray to Donald Trump. He very often embarrasses me. I'm not a disciple of Donald Trump. I voted for him and I like him, but he's far from perfect, and I find my faith in Jesus Christ. That's who I

pray to. I don't care about Donald Trump. So there's another sort of weird label that came on the scene like all of a sudden, the term Christian National came out of guys. I never heard of that before. It's insane. I never heard of Zionists before, frankly, except as a weird Hungarian sect or something.

But now these things, these labels come up and they get traction. Yeah. I've been saying for a long time, this country could use another great awakening of some type because there's a vacuum where religion once was and ideology and politics seem to be dropping into it, right? 100%. Yeah, they're acting it out.

I do believe strongly that 12-step could also be another sort of important way for people to kind of find that. It'd be amazing. It'd be amazing. It works. It's, you know, it really helps people. But fine. Your community, your church or whatever would be just as well as good. Do you think that's happening or is it just? I think yes, absolutely. And like there seems

to be no matter how much I yammer on against it and no matter how much we fight as reasonable men in our own minds and circles for tribes. When will we escape these tribes? It is just such an obsession for

people to group up based on race group up based on political ideologies. But we do that. We just do it. I know. And I just wish there was a way. For a minute there, people were really finding individuality as like a very nice thing. And somehow we've gone right back to tribes. But we also had a common tribe of being Americans or being Californians. And that's all splintered.

Well, groups are good, but we don't put the group identity first. Groups are great. You're inevitably in a group. You're a man and she's a woman and you're heterosexuals or you're Californians or you're Americans for sure. But putting your group identity first is the problem. needing to defend anyone that's in your group before you judge if they were right or wrong. That's the part that's dangerous

is these tribalistic kind of things. I have noticed, I don't know if you have, and this could just be by my own life experience, that sobriety is blowing up right now. Like there is a lot of people who have, like, I get hundreds of messages a day of people being like, I'm sober, I just started three months or whatever. And so I'm very optimistic about it.

I am too, but I'm not sure it's sobriety, but certainly people are choosing not to use substances as much. And that is always a good thing. Yes, yeah, you want people to be healthy. Our brains are delicate instruments. And you fuck it up with whatever. Don't take much. Doesn't take much.

Yeah. I mean, I'm not the bummer guy. I don't have a good time or whatever. But just like, good. We're moving in the right direction, I think. You said something earlier about off air. I don't know if you want to bring it up, but like the weed stuff, like just talking about like marijuana.

Sure. they're using it in large doses at a pretty young age. The concentration is insane. Yeah. And we're literally talking about a different drug. It's so funny to me, people get on these on medical topics, people get so screwed up when the same name has different things that are like COVID, alpha delta, different things that are like COVID, alpha delta, different illnesses. Wead, 1970, measured in lids. Not weed to get at the weed store here in California that's 100% cannabis.

Yes. These are different things. And they're fine. It affects us differently, biologically. Yeah, well, that's just going along with how words don't mean anything anymore. Oh, I don't do drugs. What does that mean? Drugs is so vague.

What drug? Like, are you talking about Tylenol? Are you talking about heroin? Are you talking about weed? Are you talking about mushrooms? That's all in the same category. Alcohol. Yeah, they keep it all vague, you know?

Like, it's very, very vague. So that's, that's fascinating. Yeah. Yeah. And so weed, yes, the concentration is such that addiction is more common, psychotic. So I didn't believe that weed could cause psychosis. I, they'd always been sort of in the, been reported here and there. I thought, yeah, it's probably schizophrenic or just came out, right?

No, no, no, no. Weed injures people cause psychosis and violence. And, you know, some of the stuff that we're seeing, the violence where people are psychotic, maybe, maybe, I think, high probability drug induced. People want to make it about the, SSRIs. I mean, they're not helping. Obviously, somebody's manic.

But I think the really wild stuff is more drugs. We eat hallucinage. It's like, remember microdosing hallucinage? Right. Did you see all the problems from that? Yeah. Oh, boy. Well, it's interesting too because weed, like you already kind of covered this, but like,

people will be like, oh my gosh, it comes from the ground. It's like a natural product. I hear that argument all the time. What? It's an herb. It's an herb. Yeah, it's a natural herb. Here's what you tell people.

plants have chemicals on their surface to prevent the animals from eating them to poisoning the animals there are mushrooms you can lick you'll be dead in 12 minutes that's there to protect the plant not to make you high

right so yeah I think it just all gets lost in this shuffle of like when has we done anything and you're like well I mean this pretty and also like from like I one time just said that like because I was hanging with my nieces and her friends and they're young.

I'm never around people that age. And they just all want to smoke pot and they don't want to. And I was more just afraid. I'm more talking about like that circle of young people. But like they were all just losers to me because I was like, why don't they want to go do something or why don't they want to go outside? It's a beautiful day. And they're in a basement and they want to watch old movies or whatever.

And, you know, it's fine. I didn't, I didn't expect Reddit to lose that. Yeah. Yeah, but we've fucked them up with COVID lockdowns. Sure. I feel bad for them. Well, Reddit went crazy. Like Jeff Dyes, villainizing weed.

I think she's better than us. I'm like, no, relax. Do your drugs. Everyone have a good time. What I was saying is that like... I definitely have a good time, guy. Yeah, me too. Yeah, 100%.

Don't hurt yourself. Have a good time. What breaks my heart is that young people have to be afraid to be experimental to try these things. Like, you know, we didn't have people dying at parties when I was 18, but like drugs have, you know... So your point, we talked about spirituality and 12-7 religion. I'm hearing from young 20 or mid-20-year-old males, particularly wanting, like, guidance. Yeah. Like they want a spiritual program or they want, they want, you know.

Structure. Structure and it feels like kind of male guidance, you know, like almost like a, you know, Native Americans would have rituals whether men would help the younger man to bring him, bring him into it. Something is missing. Yeah. And we have to give it to the, particularly the young man. Yeah, I agree 1,000%. That's why every time I'm ever speak ever, I just won't shut up about Jordan Peterson because he was that for me through his,

I've forgotten that. Did you ever go see him or anything? I've seen him speak a few times and then like I listened to every one of his podcast, all of his things. I found him back when he was doing maps of meaning like 12 years ago. That book was pretty dense. But did you the lectures he did? And that was before anybody knew him.

It was before he took the stand on the pronoun thing in Canada. Well, the 12 rules really broke him open but like the maps of meaning. Like I remember trying to like because I just listened to it and I'm like going on. Like it was kind of heavy for me. But now I've revisited it and it's great. Makes perfect sense. Yeah, but he speaks about how, like, we told children for so long, like, you're fine the way you are.

You're fine the way you are. You're fine the way you are. And these kids are going, but, like, I have crippling anxiety. I'm directionless. I'm sad. I'm having all these feelings. I don't want to hear that I'm fine the way I am. I want the good word of, like, you can get help.

You can change. You should be someone. You're not there yet. Let's be better. Back to the 12-step model. I mean, the easiest thing in the world does tell us to me, go do drugs or give them the drugs, fine, as opposed to, I'm going to be here with you, struggling with your disease, and it's going to fight me.

It's going to fight you, but I'm going to stay here with you. It's heroic. Exposure is the same thing. Exposure is how we build muscle, expose it to tension, and it's how we build regulation and flexibility and mental health. Exposed anxiety-provoking situations, exposure to the things you're obsessing about. Exposure to the things you don't like. 100%. That's how you build a human.

Absolutely. We've lost. all that. Yeah. Like somehow it's, why should I have to work and can't I smoke weed all day? Like, I didn't know that this would ever happen. But it makes them so, it makes them so miserable. It's like, like, you can, I'm sure on Reddit again, you get, leave me alone, whatever.

They want to do it. Fine, go do it, but I, it makes it, it makes you, it hurts to watch that. It's sad. I'd like to, nothing makes me happier than watching young people thrive. That having, having families, having kids, having jobs, having passion, I get happy when I say. So why I sort of enjoyed going down to Southern Florida, that's where I first started seeing that again. People were out. Young people were out. Young people were dating. And people were working and excited. And it's moving around a little bit. I'm starting to see it in New York

again a little bit. So it seems to be improving. That's good. Yeah. I want to see people doing all those things. Like that, like we were in Greensboro, North Carolina this weekend. And we went over to the bar that was just right across from the comedy club. And it was just, it was the first time me and my opener were saying, like, we've seen young people drinking and riding an electric bull and square dancing. Oh, good. And I was like, oh, we've been joking around about how every time we go into a town, which is every weekend, no one's out.

No one's doing anything. And we were like, this is going to be a problem. If young people aren't going and meeting people or starting, you know, relationships, or hooking up or doing drugs or whatever they're doing, like this is a, what are they doing? Like, I don't know what. So it's good to see. I think when the history

books are written, the lockdown will have had a significant effect on this thing we were seeing. and that hopefully they're recovering from. I don't know. Yeah. I just kept saying during lockdowns, we've ruined eight to 15-year-olds. And you know, Andre was talking about how totalitarian France became.

We went to Greece right after the pandemic, or during the pandemic, I guess we went, and they just came out of a lockdown where you couldn't have gone to the grocery store without checking with your local government. That's insane. Isn't that wild? Yeah. And that impulse to do that, to take away freedom is, boom. They went to it so easily.

Yeah. I would, I spoke to a governor who was a friend of mine who was holding out on lockdowns. And I said, dude, you have to do it. It's, he was like, this is my job to tell people they should stay home if they want to. But it's not my job. That's what I wish they would have done. And I know hindsight's 20-20. So it's very easy for me to come on here now years after COVID and go, here's what we should have done.

But if people wanted to go out, they should have been able to. And then it would have been our duty to kind of help the people that stayed in. So like, I got to go get groceries for my neighbor, you know, because my family. you know because my fellow man like my neighbor's old my neighbor's overweight got a long history of sickness and disease so they'll text me what they need i'll use some government money to pick up their groceries make sure they're okay like but like let people who are going to be fine with covid get COVID and live i had COVID I felt fine well there's a name for what you're advocating yeah it was called the great barrington declaration that's exactly what j batichari put together it said why don't

we do it the way we've always done it? Why don't we isolate certain events, protect the ones that really need to be a. He, he, according to Red, not Redfield, Francis Collins in an email to Fauci, he had to be subjected to a devastating takedown. He's a fringe epidemiologist that need to be subjected to a devastating takeout. That's a government official. Try not to cuss. His ideas were dangerous. Screw that guy.

Yeah, that's that guy. That guy stinks. Yeah. Yeah, that's so crazy. I think it all gets lost, too, of like, whenever you want to, like, help people, like, they'll misconstrue it, you know? Oh, I'm just don't want to see my nieces and their friends.

Have a good time. Become drug addicts. And then, but everyone on Reddit's like, he's villainizing weed. This guy's an old creep. Oh, you're an old creep. God, what am I? Well, it's like you criticize.

Well, I'm very old compared to my niece, you know? So that's, but, like, is the same thing with, like, homelessness. Like, you try to find a way to solve. it or like maybe, you know, I just want these people in homes. Do you know what happened to me? But instead they're like, you're insensitive to the homeless. I'm like, I just want them to not be in this situation.

You know what happened to me? I was persuaded by somebody from the LA Board of Supervisors to be appointed. She wanted to appoint me to the lawsuit committee. The committee that allocates the $21 billion they spent a homelessness. And I was like, no, no, no, no, please no. That sounds excruciating to me. She begged me, I did it.

I said, okay, you know what? I should go in with an open mind and open heart. I should learn what they're doing and just just take it all in. Please do an interview with the LA Times. Okay. Jackie Cargo, is that her name? Just doing it.

She's a good one. She's on her. She'll be fine. You should have read the article. It was humbly like some fucking maniac was going to come in and put all the homeless people in jail. It was the crazier shit. And she did an interview with some homeless advocate in Massachusetts, not even here in Los Angeles.

And his word was what was what was paramount in the article. She did no investigation on my training or my credentials just said that I'm a physician and good standing according to the licensing board of California. I called her back and said, what is wrong with you? She wanted to know my credentials. I've got a list. I'll happily give it to you and it's all on the psychic. Half of it at least is on the psychiatric side. I'll tell you all about it.

And I took care of these people for 30 years. Yeah. For just trying to help. Yeah. That's what's crazy is like everyone should have good intentions. tensions with these things, but they'll completely misconstrue it. If you came up to some great plan to fix the homeless.

I know exactly what to do. I treated them for 30 years. It's not hard. I know exactly how to do it. Well, what is it? We had all that money that they're using. But why won't they let you implement that with the billions of dollars? Because a, who are you to say, man? They're living their best life. So we're going

to give them their rigs. They don't seem very happy. It's a progressive illness that ends in death. That's the part they don't know. I don't care. I don't care. Who's giving in the drugs, progressive to death, period. So you're murdering all these people. He's manslaughter at best. So you have to, you have to, you know, create environments for care.

You have to create environments there. And you have to say you can't stay here. Just come with us. We'll create these beautiful environments. Live outdoor if you want, but it's going to be a structured setting. We're going to help you and get you better. I get all that, but what's their motive for not letting you do that? Um, there's a, in addition to, there are multiple laws that are in place that say you, you're, you're a maniac. You're an evil doctor if you want to take people and help them. You're not allowed to do that. Number one. And number two, there's an industrial, homeless industrial complex that is unbelievable now. Right. It's unbelievable. That's what I, that's, someone's making money off this. 21 billion dollars is being spent to keep people on the street. Just in California, Gavin Newsom lost like $20 billion that was just supposed to go to the homeless. And mathematically, that works out to

roughly $500,000 per homeless person, which wouldn't have been the plan, by the way. The plan wouldn't have been just to give the homeless guys 500 grand. No. But where does that money go? And why is everyone fine with that? Like, it's a problem. These people are hurting.

First of all, I don't think people really believe the money went somewhere. They know they don't, it seems incomprehensible. It does. Yeah, it's so much money. Number one. Number two, people are only finally understanding that 85% people are drug addicts.

Right. That's it. That's it. And there is about 5% or 10% that are chronic, serious mental illness, schizophrenia, bipolar, that kind of stuff.

And then there's another percentage that are the, essentially the Antifa. If you go around you see the tents would have all kinds of slogans and stuff on them. And the hallmark is a backpack, a 40-year-old male, backpack and skateboard.

Interesting. That is a, that is a. And they're homeless by, by choice. Because they hate the system. Right. So they're trying to fight the system. Right. Okay. That's scary.

Yeah. And those people we should not be listening to. We should not be allowing them to do what they're doing. Right. They're hurting people. Yeah. You know, and they're, that part is that I have no, I have no patience with that part. I did some, with my church, we worked with a homeless shelter in Seattle.

And back a long time ago, 15 something years ago. And the only people we ever helped in my observation was people that would have been fine without us. You know, they already kind of had a square, they were already kind of like on the straight and hour, and they just found themselves in a strange circumstance. You know, they weren't drug addicted. They weren't mentally ill. They just kind of needed a little help. Well, there's tons of resources for that, tons.

And that's why how quick they were able to get. Oh, yeah, because we could let them right in. They're not good. Yeah, those people spend an average of like three days on the street or something and they just get off. We found her a job immediately because she was a really good young lady who wanted to. work and didn't have any problems. This is another problem with this whole topic. People cannot distinguish. Maybe we talked about words a few minutes ago between homelessness and chronic homelessness. Sure. We're talking about chronic homelessness.

Or just mentally unwell or drug addict. Those are words that we, I don't feel like I'm being mean using. Well, you're not allowed to use addict. We have to use a substance use disorder. Oh, geez. My patients who are all addicts love calling themselves to addict. I'm an addict. Yeah, I'm in the program. Yeah. There's tons of richness and humor. big an addict. And it's okay to be an addict. By the way, you know, I don't know if you know my little theory.

It's not even a theory. I think it's pretty well established that addiction is a more evolved form of the human being. Interesting. I will put into evidence just, what is this? This is all the what did he? Oh, this is Newsom. Yeah, this is fine. So, alcoholic addicts

make great fighter pilots, short stops, extreme athletes. And if you talk to them when they're not using, they'll say, oh yeah, extreme situations. It's like the only time I don't feel anxious. Yeah. Right? Sounds familiar? 100%. And if you look at genetically where this disease emerges most,

it's in populations that are isolated and have been assaulted genocidal repeatedly. Scottish, Central Europe, North American Indians, this is where you see it. And so literally the people that survived in extraordinary

military adversity, I'll call it addicts. And you know what movie actually it subtly did it, but it pointed it out in no uncertain terms, was Braveheart. Yeah. 10,000 scotman's going to battle, four guys that are left, alcohol.

Yeah, 100%. When they're not fighting, they're drinking. Yeah, yeah. That makes total sense. Yeah, no, I get that. I've asked you this question before, Drew, the Jewish people don't have it, right? Really interesting. So I'm of the opinion. And so there are only a few situations where you see addiction

without alcoholism. I almost don't see it publicly because I I don't like people to, if they're of that persuasion, I don't want to think, well, then I can drink. Yeah. Because trust me, it doesn't really work like that. But you don't see the alcoholism in certain Han Chinese populations and ethnic Jews. Interesting. And my suspicion is that they have been, that's the next level of washout.

Interesting. If you're, if you're genocally attacked for more thousands of years, this is where you end up. Oh, my gosh. That's fascinating. And I don't know. what the genetic difference is, but I have treated plenty of Osh County juice for stimulant addiction, opiate addiction.

They don't drink. Weird. Yeah, what a fascinating, like, little observation. And you don't have a theory on why that is. I mean, I was just, like you said, I think it's just a matter over time. Yeah, over time. Right. That's the washout, I guess. Or maybe it was the nature of the drama, you know. Maybe it wasn't military. Maybe it was the slavery

and all that stuff. Four hundred twenty years, a long time. Yeah. That's a few generations. Yeah. Yeah. So it's all a survival, a product of surviving an adversity. Yeah. Which technically is progress.

100%. It's just that what people miss about evolution is they assume that all evolution is positive. No, it's evolving better. Yeah. But there may be liability with it. And the liability is the substance part. Yeah. Otherwise, it's all good.

And I used to, I amuse myself with, I'd give lectures all the time to addicts and I'd go, hey guys, if a bunch of hans came over the hill here, what are you guys going to do? They're like, let's go, let's go! And I'm like, that is not our own thing. I'm going that way. Yeah, 100%.

So about 80% would always go towards the action. That's funny. That's funny. All right, my friend, it's always good to talk to you. So you're going to be back on Gutfeld in a couple of weeks. Did you figure out when? I didn't look.

My phone's in... I was wrong. You're in Boker, Ritone on the 15th. We go there, though. Well, hopefully we'll be there. the same time. I'm not sure, but I'll be on Godfeld soon and then I'm doing a show in New York City that night at the stand

so that'll be good. That's one of our favorite places. We do the skanks all the time. Oh yeah, it's great, right? It's so fun on there. Do you been on the skanks? Yeah, a bunch of times. Yeah, this is my boys. Yeah, they're good guys. We're going to New York for a while, so maybe we'll go to you at the stand. We should go on the skanks together if you're around. Yeah. That's a Monday night, they do it. Um, they're

but they have like story wars. They're doing something like every single like those guys. Yeah, they do a bunch of stuff now. I forgot about the story. They just posted something on X about you when they were asking you for your net worth. Yeah, so you should probably reach out to them. I saw that.

That was whenever I realized Drew that you've met Sam Hyde before the internet meme. Sam is a force to reckon with. We were at the skank fest. Yeah. I love when... I'll be at skankfest in New Orleans this year. Yeah. We didn't get invited. We haven't invited yet. I just think

it's funny that like some comics at the comedy store will think that like I shouldn't be there. You know, they're like, Jeff does jokes about gay people and does jokes about trans. He shouldn't be welcome in the building. And then you have guys like, I'm like, I'm not doing nothing compared to Sam Hyde or

Tim Dillon who's on that stage every night. Why am I? Am I a safe target to just shoot at? Like, what's going on? Tim is another one right now that we all got to get behind. He's the best. He is leading the freedom. These guys are the best. And they're using speech with jokes

and making people think. And maybe people going on, maybe I'll listen to this. When you go to a Trump rally, no one's an undecided voter. When you go to a Kamala Harris thing, like nobody's considering Trump in the comedy clubs, on podcasts, in these different areas where people will listen to someone with a different opinion and go, I've never thought of it like that. Or maybe this one guy was saying a thing that I might consider. That's why free speech is important.

And I think we had to aim for moderate, too, all of us. Yes. Because to be so certain. It's irrational to be certain. Also, you might want to ask yourself, what was in that Vax? Because here's the thing. I've never been on a hundred percent side of anything political. Or medical.

I have a lot of opinions that are still left-leaning, and then I have a lot that are right-leaning. You should maybe consider why every one of your ideas falls on the liberal side of things. You immediately agree with hating Elon Musk. You're pro-abortion, your Tylenol, how are you 100% on one side? You should ask yourself. How did you have an opinion about Tylenol all of a sudden? The hour before did you have one? A tariff expert?

Listen, you've got to kind of ask yourself if any time your ideas are 100% in one category, that maybe you're a product of some political propaganda. Yeah, that's another important thing. Or the higher education system. Well, but that's same thing. And persuasion and brainwashing and these things work. I always worry that I'm getting brainbushed by something. Oh, my gosh.

I'm in constant. Like, am I getting too carried away about this? Or like, am I right about this? I make mistakes. I stumble. Yeah, we all do. Yeah, we should be able to miss. Your numbers are going up right now.

All right, well, good. Then we keep talking. I should be able to miss. We should be able to miss. Endlessly. He just keeps going on it. What is that a, what is that a, it's a stone pauses. comic Drew and it's this you said almost this exact same scenario I think on the show a week ago

and Stone Tossers now has a comic about it and it's a guy dressed up like Don Quixote and he says what good is a hero without a villain and he's going up against a windmill and the windmill in the background is now the shape of a swastika that he just invented in his mind that's what everyone's doing with comedy these days. I've seen a lot of this in society and I reflected on it when I was young, or I reflected on it recently. When I was young, they taught us about, you know, Black History Month and the Civil Rights Movement, Martin Luther King, all these great leaders. And I did remember longing to be one of the white guys who was on the front lines of the Civil Rights March. And I remember thinking, I wish I was one of these guys. I wish that I was and, but we

don't really have anything like that. So I'm wondering if young people feel this need. And so they'll just like, whatever it is. Okay. Trans rights, okay, they're the marginalized. And so we will march with, because they're just looking for something to be so good. Yes. And it's kind of like that. You need an enemy. Okay, that's the enemy and Trump's the enemy.

And I'm so good about this. So a couple things. So I live through all that, right? And I will tell you what was different about then is that when people went out and demonstrated, they had a very specific goal in mind. Sure. Out of Vietnam now. Yes.

Civil rights now. period. Not if you go into the crowds now, you go, what do you demonstrate for? Yeah, I've been paid. Yeah. That's what it is. Was it a lot being paid. Oh my gosh. There's a union. There's a union. Wait, Jeff, there's a union for paid

protesters apparently. It is so gross. Maybe apocryphal. I've heard it. When I learned about that, I thought it was the grossest thing I've ever because I don't get paid a dollar to go on Greg Gutfeld. Yes, there's some symptoms where people will buy tickets to my comedy show and I'm growing my brand. Yes, yes, yes. But I go on

there because they let me speak freely when I was at NBC they said Jeff you we don't talk like that here no politics and I said where was that? Everything I ever did on NBC I was on a bunch of stuff and I would like say a thing or no just like in general like on programs or on things that was hosting yeah

and you'd say we don't really say that whereas I'm allowed to go on Gutfeld I'm allowed to go on Gutfeld I could go on Gutfeld and defend any liberal idea I want I mean they might light me up or something but I'm allowed to trust me but I'm allowed to that's a good They don't ask you what you're going to say.

They don't tell you what to say. By the way, that used to be that way on CNN. There's a kid, Nate Friedman. Look him up on Instagram. His name's Nate Friedman. He is just a young guy, and he goes to these things, and he basically exposes paid protesters. And you can find out how many of these people running amok with their little signs and their hats.

But they're just, they don't believe in it. They're just being paid. Right. Yeah, like that's so disingenuous. It drives me crazy. When I first started hearing about that, I was like, oh my God, it's sort of, that's... A lot, too, like $300 to $500, like not... Oh, a lot of money, $150,000 a year, $150,000 a year?

I owned Walmart stock, but I found out it was the heiress of the Walmart. So I sold it. I think that's wrong. I'm trying to get money. It is wrong, right? It's very confusing that anyone, like, if you're... I assume when you see people with signs, it's like they were so passionate about it, that they just didn't know what else to do.

So they got some glitter glue, and they stood on the... corner for Palestine. I didn't realize, no, that's a job. They're just working, you know? Like, you know, when Nazis would go, I'm just doing my job and you'd say, well, it doesn't matter because what you're doing is wrong. That's the same thing with your little paid protest. Like, I'm just doing my job. Well, your job's wrong. So I want to go back to the windmill so I can explain what Caleb was saying. I said, I said, I was in the shower and I started thinking, you know, when I read Don Quixote, Servantes, it was sort of the first novel. And really, it's, It's worth reading.

And when I read it, I thought, oh, he's really, this is really a spoof on the previous generation. This was the generation that was clinging to knightlyhood. And what's the romance where you're chivalry? They were clinging to that stuff. And they were getting old, but so much so they would go out and fight with windmills just to find something to be knightly. And the foil is Asancho Hans, I think his name was And he, Sancho would just go,

Boss, boss, no, don't do that. He's a younger man. Stop, stop it, boss, come on. And he would run into all kinds of people living their lives. He was living some ideology of a different time. Sure. And this kind of, so much it feels like that to me.

Like you're looking for the windmills, like this comment. Oh, 100%. Or they just make a villain. It's very Michael Jordan-esque, you know? Right. Michael Jordan on the last dance, you know, he ruined this basketball player's life.

He was like, oh, he thinks he can step to me. He talked all this trash. He lights him up for nine million points in a game. And then afterwards goes, that guy didn't say any of that stuff. I just had to, in my mind, make myself believe he was saying those things. And you're like, that's a psychopath, but it worked. I would argue that he, that's him using his brain and understanding it and using it effectively. It's great.

The psychopath is the one that starts believing that shit. Because somebody else told it to them and they can't get out of it. Well, he ruined that guy. Like, literally all the other people were like, all this team. We got Michael Jordan. Yeah. And all the other teammates were like, he said that. Like, they stepped up their game.

Like, he just compromised this dude's reputation for, yeah. Interesting. Well, Susan, you let us wrap up? Yes. Okay. Caleb, anything on your radar? No, I was just, when I saw that Stone Tiles come, I was like, I got to save this for the show because this is what Drew is talking about,

this exact thing. I did a, I did a, it was strange to see a schwaska on the TV that long, but, yeah, yeah, I was worried about that. But then it takes the joke away if I cover it up. So I'm like, okay, we'll get banned. See, and now you get it. You see how comedy works. We've got to be able to say the naughty thing to make a statement. You know, you'll say, rape is bad. And everyone freaks out. Like, did he say rape? I said, yeah, I said it's bad. We have to be able to use the words to talk about the ideas. Well, I'm the boss and I say it's okay. Yeah, perfect.

I'm just looking at something that I didn't know I was being invited to and all of a sudden, oh, crap, how am I going to do that? Oh, Drew. Yes? Don't look at your schedule right now. Okay. Here we go again. Yeah.

For this week or next week? For this week or next week? No, I'm sorry. Go ahead. I'm more worried about next week than this week. Do your job. Okay. Wrap it up.

Oh, oh. Get out, get out, get out, quick. We have this, we have a bad habit on this show that while we're live, at the end of the show, we start talking like we're in a meeting, figuring out our schedule while we're still live. You can wait five minutes and do it on Tuesday and everyone's going, what the hell is going?

So I did a stream on the weekend with Greg Gutfeld and Scott Adams. Greg and I went up to visit Scott. He's got cancer and when he got diagnosed or when it became more serious, we met him and we got to go visit this guy and we just turned on the mics and did an hour and a half stream and it was really kind of interesting.

And I had a lovely time. Scott, thank you for that. Thank you for hosting it. And we really, Greg and I were kind of high after all that. And Greg, thank you for letting me tag along, which he did. It was his weekend. He had some things he had to do. And I did him with him.

Nice. And it was really, really kind of glorious. So a nice weekend. I love that. I'll be with Greg this Saturday. He's done all his live shows. So I've been opening for him, which is fun. Where is it?

Somewhere in Arizona, but it's like in the middle of somewhere. It's not like Tempe or Scottsdale. I'm a patient that wants to do the meet and greet. Oh, really? Yeah. I don't know if they do meet and greet. There was some sort of VIP thing. Okay, I can hook that up for you guys easily.

Okay, that would be great. But I didn't know that he does meet and greets. We do this thing where we come out and do like a mic check. And then I was like, I don't need to be at the mic check. I'm doing stand-up comedy for just talking to the mic. And they're like, no, we sold tickets for the mic check. So I had to be there for that. I think Cat had vended that whole thing.

Yeah. So here's, I need some help on something. So, Susan, you don't know this, but I'm going to go see Kat and Corolla on Thursday night. in New York, I don't know. Next week, yeah. Next week. And Adam started railing on me. He goes, you have to do four minutes of comedy. Oh, boy. Yeah. So what, any

advice? You'll be fine. What topics? I really believe you'll be fine. Huh? Yeah, because you do this. Like, it's totally different when I'm talking to someone who doesn't. I got to come up with a story. They're going to go crazy just because you got up there. I don't even know how a joke is constructed. Oh, yeah. Well, there are some

formulas. Yeah. So I just ask, rock? Well, but the funniest part last and leave a pause. That's the most quickest advice. Also, because I'm a prior fan and the stories I always thought were just a great way to do it. Well, I think a lot of comics, especially when it's the first time they're nervous, so they're just kind of rambling. The silence scares them. Oh, I don't know. The silence is when they're supposed to be laughing. I've done public speaking so long. Yeah. I understand the importance of silence. Yeah, you'll be fine. And also, you're Dr. Drew. They're going to hear your name and they're going to lose their mind.

I could just sit back down. You've got to get, now you've got to do a few minutes, but you'll be set in a good position for sure, yeah. Oh, you don't understand. You can disappoint. Yeah. Well, I mean, that might help get a bomb. They might love that.

Like, we saw Dr. Drew, he was so charming while he bombed. I think you should get up with Kat maybe. No, no, they're challenging me to go do myself. I didn't even know Kat did stand up comedy. Oh, she does. She does. Yeah. She does.

She's funny. She's good. Yeah. Yeah, she makes a lot of money. Let me have this camera back. Jeff Dye, everybody. They call it a book tour. It is die hard.

This one, yeah. Jeff is Jeff Dye, D-Y-E.com, and Jeff Dye on X. Yep, I'm on all the stuff. All the stuff. And we are, there is his upcoming comedy tour. And we are so grateful that he comes by. He doesn't live too far from here, but I still feel immensely guilty that he comes in. I love it.

But it's fun to have him here in the studio with us. And thank you to Andre Bercoff. And shall we put up our upcoming guests on the list here? There we go. J.P. Sierra, Jessica Rose tomorrow, which is kind of an interesting juxtaposition. Latipo for the Surgeon General from Florida and Casey DeSantis, the first lady. There we've got a big TWC show on the 16th with Gary Breckham.

And we will be early on the second. Is that correct, everybody? Yes, right now it's scheduled for 12 p.m. Pacific. Okay. So the second will be, pay attention. That's when we talk to the Florida officials. And we thank you all for being here. Let me quickly glance at the restreams.

Are you guys doing anything? I see you guys on the restream and I see you on the rants. Yes, Fleet. Scott Adams has cancer. He has prostate cancer. And we've been kind of helping out with that. Yeah, if you want to see the video,

go to at Dr. Drew X on X or X.com slash Dr. Drew and it's posted up there. Is it pinned? No, but if you scroll down, there's a bunch of, you'll see the show a few times. And then you'll see it. of us in a line looking out towards the camera.

It's kind of odd. It's really cute. I listened to the whole thing. It was really good. It was like a real podcast. And then they just talked. It was another example of, now I'm going to leave this camera.

Of just people who can talk on Mike. The three of us know to talk. And so we interested each other. So it was just like, oh, this is great. I didn't know. I thought we did it for like 35 minutes. It was an hour and a half. I love that.

I've often said when we do a podcast sometimes in the tribe of stand-up community. It's like even if we didn't turn on the microphones on cameras. I'm just happy we did this. Well, and shout out to Gary Smith. When I was first doing podcasting, he was producing my pod. And he said, you know, I've been around radio and stuff. And he goes, but I've learned podcasting is mostly about wanting to hang out with the host.

Just want to hang out. And that's all it is. It's autobiographical. People want to get to know you more. And like, that's a great way to do it. And then also how many great conversations by the greatest minds I've ever lived weren't recorded? Nobody heard it. Just this real smart conversation or maybe a light conversation and it's just lost.

Go find a way to, if you'd let me know how Burkhov can be translated because he has great conversations. I'd love that. It's Radio Sude. It's on Tussetat. Maybe put it up there, Caleb, before we wrap this thing up, which is in every state, all his states. And he has a thing called Fassafas, which is face to face. And he just doesn't, I've learned a lot talking to him. I love that.

There it is. Dant-Su-Tucid in all his states. I think that's what I mean. Maybe some weird... And he's a model in France. Funny people. All right, Jeff, thank you for being here. And thank you all for being here.

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