Ask Dr. Drew - Experimental mRNA Vaccine Breaks The “Golden Rule Of Pregnancy” Warns OBGYN Dr. James Thorp w/ Dr. Kelly Victory – Ask Dr. Drew – Episode 248

Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome, gentle people. I'm Dr. Kelly Victory and flying as solo host today, covering for Drew. He and Susan are off in Bordeaux drinking some fabulous red wine, no doubt, only for its medicinal and antioxidant properties, I'm quite certain. But they are off on holiday and will be back with us next week. So I am flying alone, although joined by one of my favorite people again, a return guest for this show, Dr. James Thorpe, who most of you know is an obstetrician gynecologist, a maternal-fenal physician with remarkable credentials, and I'll give more of that before I come back. But we're going to be talking, spending the time today talking about, once again, the issues surrounding the mRNA vaccines and specifically their impact, the rather profound impact on women and women's health and most specifically on pregnancies and developing babies. Dr. Thorpe is the perfect

Starting point is 00:01:14 person to do that. And then if we have time at the end, we're going to talk a little bit just about really the impact of this entire pandemic and specifically the negativity that's gone on on people's health overall. So I'm really excited to have Dr. Thorpe back here with us. If we have time, we're going to take some questions as well. Caleb is going to be fielding that since I am technologically challenged, Can't figure out how one would actually answer a call on one of these platforms. This is Kelly Victory 1.0, if you haven't figured that out.

Starting point is 00:01:53 So I'm lucky if I actually connect to these shows on a weekly basis. So I certainly don't understand the intricacies of all the different platforms. But if you'll bear with me, we will have what I have no doubt is going to be a really, really intense conversation with Dr. Jim Thorpe. And we'll get into the weeds on the data and what, and not just data, you know, we focus all the time on studies.

Starting point is 00:02:20 Everyone wants to know what study we're looking at, which, you know, randomized control study we're looking at, what's the data show. And believe me, I'm a physician. I count on those things too. And we've spent the better part of this entire pandemic really asking people to look at the veracity of the data that's coming out of scientific journals. But that is not to supplant the experience of people who are practicing physicians. What are we seeing in the office?

Starting point is 00:02:50 What are people seeing in the hospital? What are people seeing in their own clinics? Those are the people. And I would suggest that it's people like Jim Thorpe who are treating on a daily basis pregnant women or women hoping to become pregnant, who are treating on a daily basis pregnant women or women hoping to become pregnant who are seeing things. And that should not fall by the wayside. It's really just as important or should have just as much weight as what ultimately gets published in the journals, because it is very honest, it's very real, it's very timely. And these are the things that I think we should be acting upon.

Starting point is 00:03:27 So let's get to some business we need to do first. And I will be back shortly with Dr. James Thorpe. and bizarre. The psychopath started this. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction, fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous. I'm a doctor for f*** sake. Where the hell

Starting point is 00:03:51 do you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals. Let's just deal with

Starting point is 00:03:59 what's real. We used to get these calls on Loveline all the time. Educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat. If you have trouble, you can't stop and you want to help stop it, I can help.

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Starting point is 00:06:44 All right, welcome. As I said before, we are being joined today by Dr. James Thorpe. Dr. Thorpe is an obstetrician, gynecologist, and a maternal fetal medicine specialist for more than 40 years. He received his medical degree from Wayne State University and was serving on the SSM health system in St. Louis, Missouri, up until the point that he was fired from that hospital system and St. Mary's Hospital, fundamentally for telling the truth about the COVID-19 mRNA shots and their profoundly negative impact on women and their pregnancies. So he has, I frankly don't know anyone I don't think more passionate than Dr. Thorpe with regard to women, women's health, their pregnancies. He is an absolute warrior in defending women and their unborn babies and their newborn babies.

Starting point is 00:07:48 I'm very happy to learn that he has just been asked to join and has joined the wellness company as their chief of maternal and fetal health and will be able to oversee women's health in that new position. So I want to hear all about what he's doing there and as well as what brought him to that point. So Dr. Thorpe. Great to see you. Thanks so much. Thanks. Thank you so much for having me on your platform again. It's an honor and a privilege.

Starting point is 00:08:23 I appreciate it. You've got so much to share. And before, I normally start with the kind of, you know, the more data-oriented stuff and then move into the softer items. But I want to actually give you a chance, if you would, for a minute. Tell people how it is that you came. You're now at the wellness company, and I'm thrilled. That includes other friends and colleagues of this program, including Peter McCullough and Harvey Reich and some other great scientific minds and truth warriors. who we both know, who have had their professional careers upended. People with incredible pedigrees like yourself, incredibly well-trained, incredible experience, mountains.

Starting point is 00:09:15 I can't even imagine how many thousands of high-risk patients you have seen and treated in your career and how it is that you find yourself with a hospital system deciding that you do not belong there. Sure. Well, thank you. Thank you for that. And thank you for the generous introduction. The first thing that I want to tell every citizen of the United States of America, really the globe. And especially all the patients under my former practice in Missouri and Illinois, who are under the care at SSM Health, Sisters of St. Mary's Health, based out of St. Louis. And this is an extremely important question I want all of the patients to ask their nurses and doctors at this system.

Starting point is 00:10:09 One simple question, Dr. Kelly. Doctor or nurse, are you willing to lose your job, to sacrifice your job, to save my life? Yes or no? Yes or no? That's a very, very important question, because you're absolutely right. You know, the people of the United States of America, I mean, I hate to say this, but we are in a totalitarian dictatorship. This is not government by the people. It's not government for the people. This is government by mob rule. And it's like a fascist regime. So when you have the majority of the country now who is voting with their feet and not

Starting point is 00:10:58 taking the vaccine because they know there's a problem with it. Listen, that's no mystery. The people of the United States, the majority have spoken. They're not going forward with the vaccination. And yet what does the fascist government do? The dictators, they come down on the healthcare, the physicians, just in the last month, you have two physicians, both myself and my highly esteemed colleague, Dr. Renata Moon, who is at the University of Washington State School of Medicine. Now, I don't want to shame my SSM Health. I think it's probably a great healthcare system. And I will say this,

Starting point is 00:11:46 that they treated me like royalty. And I'll tell you what, they loved me. The CEO called me up, it was on June 29th, it was a Thursday, it was 1.05 PM. And I kind of knew what was coming. So I had an attorney take notes during the entire conversation. And his name was Mr. Kevin Elledge. And he was a really, really honorable gentleman. And for the first 30 minutes, all he did was honor me and praise me. He told me how much I was loved,

Starting point is 00:12:18 how much it meant to everybody in the system that I cared for the staff, the patients, lauded me as having moral, ethical, intellectual integrity beyond way above what he would expect and above most practitioners. And then he went on and described me as a model physician for the system. And after 30 minutes, he came out and said, we're going to fire you, he said, terminate you for no cause, okay, no cause.

Starting point is 00:12:54 And you may work a hundred, we're invoking the no cause termination because you've been an incredible physician for our system, a model. And so you can work another 120 days or you can take a large amount of money and sign this agreement, non-disparagement agreement. And I basically honored him and said, you know, Mr. Elijah, I really don't need the money. You guys are having difficulties. You keep it. Felt felt very very pressured by him to take the money and

Starting point is 00:13:27 three times I said no you keep your money and then Seven minutes after he hung up the phone after he told me I could work for 120 days And I was a terrific physician sent an email out to the entire system stating that I was immediately Terminated no longer doing clinical responsibilities, suggesting that I was a horrible person and I did something wrong. But the fact of the matter is that, you know, I don't, that's fine. You know, I'll let all the suit coats and the attorneys figure that out. I don't really care about it. I got much, I got

Starting point is 00:14:00 patients to take care of and much bigger fish to fry than SSM Health. But the point that I'm making with SSM Health is that really, I believe that what really happened, that they love me. I was told by many I was the number one producer by far and away in the department. So why would you Tucker Carlsonize me if I was the number one producer by far and away? I've seen 27,500 high risk OB patients just in the last four and a half years, way beyond what anybody else has done. I published more than anybody else in the department, probably more than most of the department combined. So they did honor me and they tried to do it in a way

Starting point is 00:14:47 that honored me, but I don't think it was their decision. I think a third party came in, you know, from D.C. or one of the boards and said, look, he's violating, he's spreading misinformation. If you want to continue to get your monies, you need to terminate him. And that's what they did. So, you know, they're between a rock and a hard place. They could have done much worse. They could, like most hospitals do, they drum up false charges like they did with Dr. Reni Moon. And then they execute her, terminate her,

Starting point is 00:15:19 fire her for cause. They didn't do that to me. So, you know, they honored me. So I'm grateful for that. They didn't do that to me. So, you know, they honored me. So I'm grateful for that. But more importantly... As you say, you are very gracious in the way that you have handled this, and you are very gracious in letting them off the hook. There's no question I agree with you that they are folding to third party pressure, and we are seeing this all around the country. The thing that is, I think

Starting point is 00:15:46 people need to understand, Jim, is that just like we have AB 2098 out here in California, the law that was passed by Newsom that fundamentally criminalizes a physician speaking against the narrative, if you say anything against the narrative. So while that is horrific for physicians and what you have gone through is so unjust, so unfair, it's such an egregious affront to everything you have done. And as bad as that is though, from the patient's perspective, this should be terrifying because you need to ask yourself, think about the physicians who didn't get fired. Are they saying and doing what they are saying and doing because they honestly believe it's the right thing or because they don't want to be Dr. James Thorpe?

Starting point is 00:16:38 Are they saying and doing it because they believe it's what the literature shows them or it's because they don't want to be Dr. Renata Moon? Is it because they don't want to be in your shoes that they are doing and saying what they're doing for their patients? And this should be terrifying to people because if you can't trust that your physician, and God bless you for standing up for what is right, people can trust you. And no matter what, every patient who you treated will know that what you told them, whatever it was, whatever the outcome, was because you honestly believed it was the right thing to do. You had their best interest in mind, not your best interest in mind. And I think that that is critically important. I think I cut you off when you were making a final point. So go ahead. No, I made my point. I just wanted to say that,

Starting point is 00:17:31 you know, I, as a former United States Air Force officer, and as obviously sworn allegiance to uphold the Constitution, which includes freedom of speech, by the way, and also to uphold my Hippocratic oath to my patients, first do no harm and also give informed consent. You know, the Nuremberg Code has very, very specific 10 guidelines for informed consent. They're all violated. They're all violated by all the hospitals. You can't give informed consent when nobody is allowed to even investigate by federal law what's in those vials. Right. No, really important point. And when we come back after the break, I want to talk about actually some of the things you're seeing and the data and those sorts of things. But I want to talk

Starting point is 00:18:23 also another thing that I think people, we frequently talk about the first do no harm and informed consent, but many people, including the average physician, tragically, who's younger than we are, doesn't know the four pillars of medicine, autonomy, beneficence, non-maleficence, and justice. People don't know of those. We swore an oath to those pillars. And autonomy, which is tied hand in hand with informed consent, is the first of those pillars. And you're absolutely right. The idea, we have an entire country full of people who took these injections, who did not get informed consent. That is a fact. If you ask any of them, whether they were given options, all the things that are required for informed consent, which includes what are my options? What is the likelihood of the outcome if I don't take this? What's in this injection? What is the risk from this injection? All of those things. How is it that all of medicine somehow turned

Starting point is 00:19:33 a blind eye to the fundamental concept of autonomy and informed consent? There's a very simple answer to that, Dr. Victory, and that's called a $13 billion bribe from our government in early 2021. And that bribe was designed by none other than Assistant Deputy Secretary Mark Webber of the Department of United States Department of Health and Human Services, who after he knew and the CDC knew and the FDA knew and the HHS knew that the Pfizer rollout data of 10 weeks, it was the deadliest drug ever rolled out

Starting point is 00:20:20 in the history of humanity. That's fact. I've been stating that for two years. Nobody can debate that. It's fact. I've been stating that for two years. Nobody can debate that. It's published. I've published it many times. What did they do? They tried to bury that, Dr. Victory, for 75 years. They turned around and gave $13 billion of our taxpayer money to bribe over 300 influencing organizations and individuals to bribe them with a contract that if they signed it, they were not allowed to deviate from the narrative, from the deathly narrative. And Maggie and my wife have a FOIA that have proved that the American College of OBGYN

Starting point is 00:20:59 entered as a founding member of the COVID-19 community court, they signed that agreement for over $11 million, probably much more. We have 1400 pages, if you can believe that, 50% of which were redacted. 400 pages of the government capturing the American College of OB-GYN. And I call that, you know, I'm a student of the Bible, and I'm a student of eschatology, what immediately the Holy Spirit brought into my head was Isaiah,

Starting point is 00:21:33 which is all the major prophet of 2000 years ago, 2500 years. And chapter 28, verses 15 through 18, where it talks about in the end time, the covenant with death. That's what I've called this contract, the covenant with death. And that's why these organizations still to this very day are pushing it as safe, effective and necessary in the most vulnerable population of the world. My pregnant patients, pre-borns and newborns get it too by proxy of vertical transmission. Dr. Thorpe, clarify for me, because is this $13 billion that you're talking about,

Starting point is 00:22:16 is that separate and independent from monies that went through the CARES Act that were paid to hospital systems? Or is this part that's separate from them? Okay. Separate. So you're getting- Yeah. If people don't know, the CARES Act, which was set aside by President Trump, fundamentally to help doctors and hospitals during this pandemic, ended up incentivizing or rewarding people for putting the diagnosis of COVID on admissions. Part of the reason why we have everybody and their brother was admitted supposedly with COVID, even if it was actually a gunshot wound to the chest or a diabetic insult or a heart attack or whatever else, if they put COVID on the admission, on the admitting diagnosis, they got a certain amount of money. And if they put COVID on the

Starting point is 00:23:02 death certificate, they got, and these are huge sums of money. It was almost $40,000 per patient if the hospital was willing to say it was a COVID death. So the incentives were enormous. So this $13 billion you're talking about is in addition to the bribes and incentives that went through the Quick Cares Act. Yeah. And Maggie and I have published this. In fact, for those of you, I just started a new Substack. Just Google Thorpe Substack. And the first five-part series is called The Covenant of Death, part one, part two, part three, part four, and part five. Part one was published a couple of days ago. Read it.

Starting point is 00:23:46 It'll blow your mind. It exposes everything. Wow. All right. Well, let's take a quick break here for some commercials, and then we'll come back and start talking about actually what you're seeing in your clinical experience. A lot of you have been asking for more information about how to counter the adverse effects of the spike protein from COVID infections and the COVID vaccine. The spike protein is not your friend, let's just say that. So I'm glad we have the wellness company Spike Support Formula as a

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Starting point is 00:27:53 on the entire population. This is uncharted territory, Drew. Hey, for those of you who may just be jumping in here, we're joined today by Dr. James Thorpe, who is a OBGYN and maternal-fenal health expert. And we're going to start talking now about, if you would, some of the things I said in my open, obviously we rely very heavily on the data, on scientific studies, on what's in the journals. But I really want to talk for a minute about what you are seeing. You gave an unbelievable statistic. You've seen 27,500 high pregnancies over a period of the last four or five years, which is remarkable. So

Starting point is 00:28:42 we're talking about numbers that really eclipse, frankly, any study that anyone's going to have published. You yourself have seen and laid hands on a remarkable number of people. So we're now about two and a half years into this vaccine, quote unquote, I use that term loosely, this mRNA shot debacle, and that is what I consider it. And so I'd like you to spend a little bit of time talking about what you have seen, and I assume you also speak with colleagues who are in the business as well, the impact you're seeing that you believe may be attributable to these shots from, you know, on pregnant women, on their pregnancies, on their fertility? Yes. Thank you, Dr. Victory. So yeah,

Starting point is 00:29:34 there's no question that I've seen devastating effects that really I did not see in 2020. I didn't see these until after the rollout of the vaccine in 2021. And let's start with with menstrual irregularities. And we've published extensively on this Tiffany Prado, Dr. Brian Hooker, and many others with the CHD network. And we published that last year, just devastating severe menstrual abnormalities. Also substantial increases in infertility, both male and female infertility. And then the pregnant women, just devastating complications. And this should surprise nobody, Dr. Kelly, because we know, I've known for 40 years, Dr. Roberto Romero, one of the stalwarts maternal fetal medicine in world history. He's 10 years further along than I am, but he established

Starting point is 00:30:34 his whole career documenting the devastating effects of inflammation in pregnancy. So we should have known this, this alleged vaccine, this gene therapy masqueraded as a fake vaccine is the most inflammatory substance known to man. I've stated that for two years. Nobody has debated me with it. Every woman that's got that shot knows that every man that's got that shot knows that what does it do in pregnancy it kills pregnancy that's what dr. Romero's studies show that's what I've seen in clinical practice I've seen a devastating increase in in miscarriages I've seen increase in fetal malformations I think an increase in chromosomal abnormalities I've seen a substantial increase in fetal death, severe early onset preeclampsia, preterm premature rupture of membranes, spontaneous preterm

Starting point is 00:31:34 labor, indicated preterm delivery by the physicians having to deliver a baby for fear of demise for complications related to the vaccine. Significant increase in fetal growth restriction, fetal cardiac arrhythmias, fetal cardiac death, fetal cardiac arrest, placental clots, all types of devastating, remarkable features of abnormal placentation, and definitely increasing the risk of preterm delivery and also increasing the risk of the newborn going to the neonatal intensive care unit. The NICUs have been overflowing since the vaccine started. And if that weren't bad enough, a neonatal death as a result of prematurity and other complications for the vaccine.

Starting point is 00:32:26 And that's just for starters. I want to tell your readers out there, the entire, what I call now, MMIC, the military medical industrial complex, is totally captured, all the journals. Throw away your journals. Use them for toilet paper. They're worthless. And I can prove that to you. You know, just this past month, Dr. McCulloch and many others published the definitive report in The Lancet documenting vaccine-induced death by autopsy in 325 patients. 73% of those were proven to be caused by the vaccine within two weeks. That was accepted, it was peer reviewed, and Elsevier and Lancet immediately removed it. Listen, Kelly, Dr. Kelly, Retraction Raj has totally documented over 300 articles like that removed.

Starting point is 00:33:23 We should have believed Dr. Marsha Engel 20 years ago, the former editor-in-chief of the New England Journal of Medicine, when she said, I'm resigning. The New England Journal of Medicine and all of the other medical journals are corrupt. Throw them away. An article just published this week, two days ago, Rimmer and colleagues published an article, a meta-analysis in which they claim that 25 studies show that there's no increased risk of spontaneous abortion or miscarriage related to the vaccine. It's total, utter hogwash. And we have a letter to the editor in there because they didn't publish our peer-reviewed study, which was published in

Starting point is 00:34:06 March in a preeminent peer-reviewed medical journal, the Journal of the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons. They didn't even include that. This was a massive study. We showed massive danger signals. Nobody cites that study because it's true. You cannot believe any of these journals. They're all captured and owned by pharmaceutical. And, you know, the two major studies, which were 2000, I'm sorry, 2020 in the spring, was a Lancet article first authored by Mandeep Mehra, Harvard cardiologist, that fraudulently, completely made up a meta-analysis of hydroxychloroquine impugning it. Everybody that read that study, including myself, knew it was fraudulent. It was probably ghostwritten by Pfizer and then handed to Manny Mara to publish. It was published in The Lancet. We knew it was BS. We called them out on it. And guess what? They retracted it. It was published in The Lancet. We knew it was BS. We called them out on it. And

Starting point is 00:35:05 guess what? They retracted it. It was not fabricated. It was completely made up. This is a preeminent medical journal in the world. And then one year later, the New England Journal of Medicine, and I'm going to call out the name, Eric Rubin, who is the editor-in-chief, is so corrupt and so unethical and so immoral, just flush that journal down the toilet. None of these journals are responsible. They're all corrupted. They all have major entanglements with pharmaceutical companies. What did he do? Okay, editor in chief published the lead author pushing the vaccine and pregnancy in May or June of 2021 as being safe, effective, and necessary in pregnant women. And he knew it was a lie. He fabricated the numbers. All 21 authors were federal employees. And the lead author, Tommy T. Shimabukuro,

Starting point is 00:36:01 who should be indicted and under criminal investigation, manipulated the data and switched the converted by underhanded dealings, switched 700 patients who got their vaccine in the third trimester, fraudulently shifted them in the first trimester, which thus reduced the miscarriage rate from 82% to 13%. I've published that multiple times in peer review. That can never be redone.

Starting point is 00:36:32 So these two journals are responsible for killing and injuring millions of my patients, killing and injuring millions of patients globally with a false narrative that the vaccine is safe, effective, and necessary in pregnancy. I'll tell you, I agree with you wholeheartedly. Drew and I talk a lot about the overwhelming impact and the ramifications of the capture of these journals. I've spoken at length on this show with Bobby Kennedy Jr. about that. He made an interesting statement that if he were elected president, he would haul all of the editors of the major medical journals in and essentially make it a RICO issue and

Starting point is 00:37:17 say if you do not rid the conflict of interest, this is racketeering by any other name. Everybody really in medicine, and unfortunately, I fear that young physicians do not understand that the medical journals are fundamentally the marketing arm of the pharmaceutical companies. That's all they are. There isn't anything in there that you can rely on at this point, and that's a very, very scary thing. I want to go back for a minute though. You started by talking about inflammation and the fact that these shots are the most inflammatory substance we know. And I have said many, many, many times that we are having an epidemic right now of the itis, whatever it is, tinnitus, myocarditis, pericarditis, neuritis. And if people don't know, itis at the end of a word is the fancy medical suffix meaning inflammation. These are inflammatory processes that are

Starting point is 00:38:16 happening as a result of the mRNA and the lipid nanoparticle complex. The lipid nanoparticles are also toxic by themselves, but the spike proteins that are produced because of the mRNA are highly, highly inflammatory. And that is not good for pregnancies for all the reasons you have just elucidated, all the things you're seeing. Dr. Ryan Cole actually showed us some slides in the past of the impact. Talk just about what you are seeing in terms of placental abnormalities. It's everything, as I understand, from small, that they are small for gestational age, to issues with quads, to issues with perhaps an autoimmune attack on the developing placenta.

Starting point is 00:39:03 So talk a little bit just about the impact on the placenta. The impact on the placenta is devastating. And I was happy to see with my substack number two that was published, might've been the first or the second one, but there was an, I don't know the lady or gentleman's name, but it was MFM sonographer with about 35 years of experience in the industry. I'm not sure where she practices, but she wrote in and look what she wrote down. She wrote down everything, all the findings that she's seen that I've alluded to. As you know, inflammation ultimately results in cell death and calcification. We've seen such advanced, aggressive calcifications in the placenta that I've never seen before.

Starting point is 00:39:56 Now, placentas normally will calcify as they have programmed cell life and cell death. So they become senescent later on in pregnancy, but these far beyond that. So we're seeing massive amounts of really bizarre, heavy calcifications after the vaccine. And unfortunately, I'm unhappy to report and saddened that I'm still seeing those in pregnancies 18 months after the shot in subsequent pregnancies.

Starting point is 00:40:29 Very concerning to me. And so the other things that I'm seeing are placental infarcts, a marked increase. I'm seeing another finding that we call placental lacunae and also placental legs with very, very atypical abnormal appearances. And I have many pictures of them. There's a concern that I raised early, early on before the vaccines were actually rolled out. That's my understanding that there is a protein on the outside of the COVID spike that is very, very similar to a protein on the placenta that's required for placental formation and development. And my concern when

Starting point is 00:41:14 I learned about this very early was that, well, if you develop antibodies to the spike protein, what is the chance that those antibodies will also misinterpret or misidentify that same similar protein on the placenta and those antibodies would attack the placenta? And that's what we mean when we say in lay terms autoimmune, meaning your immune system is attacking tissues that it shouldn't, tissues that are actually self. Antibodies are supposed to recognize tissues that are not self, but if it shouldn't, tissues that are actually self. Antibodies are supposed to recognize tissues that are not self, but if it gets confused, they may attack the placenta instead. Do you think that that ended up playing a role that there's an autoimmune component to this?

Starting point is 00:42:00 It's very likely. I followed this syncytin story for a long time. And syncytin is exactly the protein that you're talking about. And yes, it is actually coded for and part of the domain of the spike protein. And that's possible. And that would go along with a severe increase in very abnormal postpartum hemorrhages that we've seen that appear that it's not able to be remedied by our usual procedures, even massive amounts. Everybody has seen that, every obstetrician. So I think that's of concern, you know, and that would go a generation beyond what the corrupt pharmaceutical industry sterilized all the children with the Tdap in Africa. In Africa, what they did was they used an autoimmune reaction by covalently bonding

Starting point is 00:42:54 HCG, human chorionic gonadotropin, the important pregnancy hormone. And so the patients would have an autoimmune reaction towards hcg they were devastated they were infertile this could be exactly what you're talking about excepted a further generation now we're having mrna coding for uh syncytin-like protein that is transcribed and and shed into the body yes it's very's very possible. It's speculation, but there's something that is really devastating. One of our current studies, I think that will be published soon, is from the My Cycle story, Tiffany Perotto, Brian Hooker, and many others in that group. And that's going to be published very shortly. And that is a devastating study that I believe is will be the

Starting point is 00:43:45 study which will essentially prove shedding phenomena. And you know, getting back to the wellness company, and spike support that they have the doctor, I saw Dr. And you talked about extraordinarily important, extraordinarily important. We now know from this study that 90% of the women that had severe menstrual abnormalities in our cohort didn't get the vaccine. They didn't start having menstrual abnormalities until they came in close contact with somebody recently vaccinated. So it's very, very concerning. And my concern is that this spike protein, this bioweapon, it's being shed and I'm worried that if it can have

Starting point is 00:44:34 adverse effects on non-pregnant women, what's it gonna do? Is it going to cause miscarriages, cause fetal death, cause fetal problems, cause pregnancy problems, cause newborn problems? It very well could. So I do, I think that is an incredible product. At the wellness company, listen, we're prescribing natural remedies and this spike support, as you and Dr. McCulloch, that is very carefully vetted and there's ample studies documenting

Starting point is 00:45:04 how effective it is. Now there's one important point that I want to make about spike support. I'm very conservative in pregnancy. The natto kinase, I'm not quite comfortable with using that in pregnancy. So I think it's fine if you get pregnant on it, I think it's fine. I would just hold off while you're pregnant until i can obtain more reassuring data i know they've used it for 20 years in japan but you know i'd rather have both a belt and

Starting point is 00:45:32 suspenders on before i use anything in pregnancy um the well you are i was going to say you you are you're a mind reader dr thorpe because i was going to ask you about that. I want to make sure that people know that little clip where I was talking with Dr. McCullough about the natto kinase. That is one component of the spike support. And natto is a product that comes from fermented soybeans, as you just intimated. It's been used by the Japanese for centuries. It is, however, a mild blood thinner. And therefore, I suspect that that may be part of your concern about using it in pregnancy, that it does have a blood thinning component. The other things that are also in the spice support, as I understand, bromelain, which is an enzyme that comes from the pineapple plant, and nanocercumin,

Starting point is 00:46:29 which most people think about curcumin as from a spice family, but again, has anti-inflammatory properties to it. So two of the things are enzymes that can break down the spike, and one of them is an anti-inflammatory. But I think we've been asked on the live stream questions about whether or not you can take it during pregnancy. So I appreciate you clearing that up. You're saying that's something that you wouldn't feel comfortable at this juncture, recommending that people actively pregnant should use that. Yeah, I'd prefer not. And Dr. McCulloch agrees with me. Listen, we're doing our due diligence with vetting and clinically studying these. We're not pushing something just because

Starting point is 00:47:15 it's natural. And you really can't push something just because it's natural. There's a lot of natural toxins and poisons. I can tell you a lot of stories about them. So we don't take that for granted. But I'll tell you the other, the wellness company, the other thing that they just rolled out that I feel very strongly about, and you know, I've been doing this since 1995, always stocking up.

Starting point is 00:47:39 I did this year before Y2K, go straight to the pharmacy and stock up on massive amounts of important drugs. I've been doing that for 20 years. And trust me, even before the pandemic, it really saved a lot of my patients and family members because when they need the drugs, they can't get them. So now at the wellness company, we're often offering all of the important drugs

Starting point is 00:48:04 and you can sign up and you can get that prescribed and it is actually much better than what i did because i'd buy in bulk but i would only get three or four this is like six or seven different very important medications that can be life-saving to you and uh you know it's an incredible deal i can tell you uh it's uh i i think that it's an incredible deal, I can tell you. I think that it's $250 for members and $299 for non-members at the wellness company. But I'm going to order at least half a dozen of those because it's very, very important. You've seen all the threats from the establishment suggesting that there's not going to be drug availability in the not too distant future. So look at that and protect yourselves. We haven't rolled out a nebulizing pack yet, but I'm going to push that because I've saved many lives using nebulizer

Starting point is 00:49:01 protocols with dilute hydrogen peroxide solutions. It's a lifesaver. And it's again, very cheap. Every household should have one. They tell us they're threatening us that there's another pandemic. I mean, be prepared. No, I think those are wise words. I want to go back for one thing.

Starting point is 00:49:20 You mentioned briefly male infertility, something that we really, I don't think have focused on much. Many people have focused on, and I certainly highlight the issues relating to women's health, but talk a little bit about male infertility and what we know about the impact, what the studies have shown so far about impact to males from the mRNA shots with regards to reproductive health? Sure. No surprise. Listen, the lipid nanoparticles, of which there's literally billions of, they don't stay in your arm. They go all over your body and they're highly inflammatory and they're concentrated not only in the ovaries, but in the testes. And you know, Berkey, before he died, untimely death earlier this year, he published a case of a young 28

Starting point is 00:50:17 year old male who fathered a couple of children died in two weeks after the vaccine, zero sperm count. His testes were wiped out with disease. And so I can tell you from the American College, American Board of OBGYN, OBGYNs are the most captured physicians other than pediatricians. We're the worst. Pediatricians and obstetricians were captured. And there's a reason for that, which which I'd like to get into. But after I make this point, and that is that that the the the infertility docs from all over the country, nobody's breathing this up, because they're cash only, they're laughing all the way to the bank. I mean, they are seeing massive increases in fertility. IVF rates are way down. I have several what I call Trojan horses around this country and around the world that work in the IVF labs. There's devastating losses of the embryos in day

Starting point is 00:51:20 four, day five. They're dead. They're gone. So, and again, this is a big moneymaker for the infertility docs. So, you know, they don't wanna rock the horse, but that's what's going on. There's two reasons why my patients, my women are targeted, and this is outrageous. This goes back to Deputy Secretary Mark Webber of HHS. It's a marketing strategy. Why were my women targeted? Why

Starting point is 00:51:46 was the American College of OB-GYN put in the position of signing the covenant with death? Why? To this very day. The reason is number one, women make all the healthcare decisions. We've known that for eons. So it's a classic marketing strategy. And number two is if you can spend $13 billion to prove or to send out your psyops to suggest that it's safe, effective and necessary in pregnancy, the most vulnerable population, you've won the game. Because if it's safe, effective and necessary in pregnant women, the most vulnerable population, every other human being on planet Earth should care. That's why they went after my women. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you, it's interesting because when you look, less people think that

Starting point is 00:52:37 this is something that only you are seeing and that you are focused on, Dr. Thorpe, what you are seeing with regard to impact on female fertility has been replicated around the globe in those areas that are heavily vaccinated. So we have seen really devastating decreases in birth rates in every Western European country. In fact, frankly, most of the world, with the exception of sub-Saharan Africa, which has been largely unvaccinated for COVID, we have seen decreases. I believe that in Western Europe, we're down somewhere between 6% and 9% in most countries. Some places, like Taiwan, is down something like 23%, which is a devastating decrease in birth rate. And I think in the United States

Starting point is 00:53:25 we're somewhere around 7% decrease. And this is not what you would expect by the way. Normally when people are locked at home, unable to travel, unable to go to work, unable to go out, you would expect birth rates to go up. And that is not what we've seen. So, you can correct me if I'm wrong, but birth rates around the globe, as I said, are down. And I think that- Absolutely. And not just down. And 10%

Starting point is 00:53:58 doesn't sound like much or 7%, but that's a lot. That's approaching two to three standard deviation. And two to three standard deviation, just for your viewers, if you think about the bell-shaped curve and right down the middle is 50%, when we look at comparison, we're looking at the comparison of where on that tail, like two standard deviations is going to encompass 97.5% of the patients. Three standard deviations is going to encompass 99.7% of the patients. So that's where we compare a trend with, and when you start going out to three and four and 10 and 20 standard deviations. These are Holocaust-like events.

Starting point is 00:54:47 And these, you know, standard deviation is devastating. Two standard deviation is devastating. I want to, now I want to, the clock's winding down, so I want to change gears a little bit to something, talk about when, you know, you are focused not just on women's pregnancies, but on their overall health and wellness and their ability to get pregnant, their ability to carry those pregnancies. And so I'm sure that you do all the basics of coaching people about not smoking and drinking in moderation and exercise and those sorts of things. I want to talk a little bit about the concept of stress and the impact of stress specifically on overall health and on pregnancy. We have been living in a time, I think,

Starting point is 00:55:33 of overwhelming negativity. We are living in a time that I think for many of us, certainly you and I have been living in the, we are in the fire of it, living on a daily basis. And I am going to take the opportunity to share very briefly my own situation, which is that, as you know, as a friend and colleague and fellow believer, that I have just learned as of Saturday that I have breast cancer and I'm starting down my own personal journey as a patient. And when I look at my own risk factors for that, why would I develop breast cancer? Because when you look at the risk factors,

Starting point is 00:56:22 I'm not a smoker, never have been. I drink in moderation. I work out like a fiend. I control my weight. I eat a very healthy diet. I don't eat processed meats. And the thing that for me jumps off the page of risk factors is chronic stress. And I really have done some, in the brief period I've had to get my arms around this diagnosis, have really done a dive, as I've shared with you, Dr. Thorpe, in terms of, you know, why are we living in this era of negativity and just this shroud of constant, you know, wow, the world just seems to be on fire. Everything's turned upside down. All of this transgenderism and the tyranny that we've been living under and the fear, the constant fear.

Starting point is 00:57:14 And I talk to people a lot about how toxic fear is, but I suspect, frankly, that I'm paying the price myself for having put myself in that and trying to figure out how to manage it. So talk a little bit about when you coach your patients, because fertility or infertility, as it were, is multifaceted. It isn't just about the sperm and the egg. It's about the overall health of women and their partners. Do you have words to them with regard to their lifestyles overall and where they find peace? Yeah, I think that, you know, Maggie and I have talked, my wife Maggie and I have talked a lot about that. We're focusing on, time with each other and our Creator, your Creator. For you and I, that's Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit, Father God, the Trinity, and

Starting point is 00:58:19 connect with our Creator. Center and center your thoughts, meditate on the promises that He's given us. You know, in the Bible, there's over 300, there's 365 times exactly where the Bible tells you. It doesn't, it's not a suggestion, it's a command. Do not be anxious. Do not be anxious. Jesus Jesus said it so many times. And so we need to, we

Starting point is 00:58:49 need to focus in on that. And we need to live in the present. Put the past behind. Put the future behind live today. Enjoy the relationships that you have enjoy the incredible blessings that your Creator our Creator has given us today stress is a killer stress is an inflammatory causes an inflammatory response inflammation kills stress is very dangerous chronic stress is very dangerous and Chronic stress is very dangerous. And I know that, you know, having a 17 segment back fusion, I can tell you, you know, I'm in chronic pain, but I stay away from everything that you've talked about. But when I get anxious, my pain levels just shoot up to eight. And the

Starting point is 00:59:42 only way I can get rid of that is by centering myself laying down and focusing. I don't take narcotics, I try to take as little Motrin and Tylenol as possible. You know, and I use naturopathic therapies, energetics that are effective, and I center myself and I can control my pain levels in that way. But more importantly, we should live every day like that. And listen, I'm not pointing at anybody and I'm pointing four fingers at myself because, you know, I think that, you know, I'm a sinner like everybody else, but one of the sins that I'm afflicted with recurrently my whole life is stress and anxiety and fear. And

Starting point is 01:00:25 I've learned to control that and I it's a daily battle for me. Listen, you know, being fired and losing all these relationships of these people and even administrators that I love up there, you know, and just losing that and, you know, financial instability and, you know, it's, it's very, very stressful, but, you know, what did Jesus tell us? You know, don't worry. You know, I've overcome the world. Do not fear. Be of good spirit. And I think, yeah. And I think, and I think it's so important. I think we really, as physicians need to, we focus so much on the treatments. We focus so much on everything else. And for some

Starting point is 01:01:07 reason, the psychological component, that stress component, we don't. And here I am, I'm absolutely exhibit A because we do these shows, we focus so much on the problems. Oh my gosh, look at all these horrible things that are happening to people and trying to educate people. You and I are co-authoring a book right now on these toxic shots. are sharing their negative data with us. And social media, as much as I participate in it, which is only on very limited, but even that there's a toxicity to it. There's an anger and a hostility. And I think, I guess my words to myself and my words to anybody who's listening to me is that pay heed because it is toxic and it's just as toxic as a cigarette. It's just as toxic as is eating a lousy diet. It's just as toxic as failing to exercise on a daily basis or allowing yourself to get your weight to get out of control.

Starting point is 01:02:20 Take it just as seriously. So I am on a, as I said, on a new journey. And hopefully, we'll, you know, be able to come with a positive outcome. But I heed. I want to speak out some powerful words here, because the spoken word, spoken into the spirit is manifest in the physical. And first of all, there's no blame. You've done nothing wrong. This isn't because you did something. There's nothing. It is what it is.

Starting point is 01:02:56 We move forward. But you're going to be healed, and you're going to get through this. And we're going to celebrate together when you get and i'm already as we've talked earlier this week um praying for you every day and and i'm already thanking god for curing you as it illustrates mark chapter 11 verses 22 to 24. he's got you and thank you and thank you as, for being here and for sharing your wisdom with our viewers. It's so important. You are, as I said, a warrior for women's health, for their pregnancies, their unborn babies, and their newborn babies.

Starting point is 01:03:39 God bless you, and good luck at the wellness company. Really excited about that. And I hope you'll come back again soon. I will. So thank you. Be blessed. Thank you. Caleb, we've got, can we put up our, I don't know if you have the lineup for what's coming next. I know that next, that Drew and Susan, I think come back on the 8th. So they will undoubtedly be raring to go on the 9th. We've got David Martin, really should be a great show on the 9th. He gave some riveting testimony in front of the EU parliament with regard to just the amount of fraud that went on with regard to the entire pandemic, not focusing just on the vaccines, but on the entire pandemic. And then you can see the rest of the lineup there. I'm back on the 16th with Ivor Cummings. A couple of these shows you'll

Starting point is 01:04:31 see are earlier. That one is at noon in order to accommodate the time change over to the UK where Ivor Cummings is going to be joining us. And then on the 17th, people mark your calendars because this show on August 17th with Tom Renz is going to be, I think, a barn burner. This is what we're sort of calling the timeline show. Tom Renz is going to be exposing with the evidence to back it up, exactly how long they knew about these things. He's got a lot of FOIA documents. He's got a lot of real hardcore data documents, emails, phone calls, texts that show just how long ago they knew that the things they were saying were not true. Everything from the fallacy of wearing masks to social distancing, to the damage that lockdowns would do, to the unnecessary harms that were done to children because they knew kids weren't at risk

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Ask Dr. Drew - Experimental mRNA Vaccine Breaks The “Golden Rule Of Pregnancy” Warns OBGYN Dr. James Thorp w/ Dr. Kelly Victory – Ask Dr. Drew – Episode 248

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