Ask Dr. Drew - Fauci’s Vaccine Injury Denial Is “Criminal” w/ Kat Timpf, Dr. Ram Yogendra & Darren Prince – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 652

Episode Date: August 4, 2026

After his disastrous Senate hearing, furious physicians are done with Dr. Fauci – and Dr. Ram Yogendra says the continued denial of the vaccine injured is “criminal.” Yogendra, an expert in treating Long Covid / Covid Long Haulers, joins Dr. Drew to name and shame the people and institutions he holds responsible for the biggest debacle in modern public health history, and why the “money trail” explains Fauci’s silence. Writer, comedian, and Gutfeld! co-host Kat Timpf joins Dr. Drew LIVE in studio. Sports and celebrity agent Darren Prince, author of the memoir “Aiming High,” speaks about nearly 2 decades of sobriety, the addiction he hid at the height of his career representing Magic Johnson and Muhammad Ali, and the work of his Aiming High Foundation. Kat Timpf is a writer, comedian, and television personality who co-hosts Gutfeld! on Fox News. Her national tour “You Can’t Joke About That LIVE” sold out theaters nationwide. Follow at https://therealkattimpf.com and https://x.com/kattimpf Dr. Ram Yogendra is a board-certified anesthesiologist with a background in public health. Learn more about his protocols for people with long Covid at https://covidlonghaulers.com/ and follow him at https://x.com/dryostradamus Darren Prince is the best-selling author of the memoir Aiming High, a prominent sports and celebrity agent, and global advocate for addiction and mental health recovery. Through Prince Marketing Group, he has represented Magic Johnson, Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, and many others. Learn more at https://officialdarrenprince.com 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/fatty15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/paleovalley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twc.health/drew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • CHAPTER - For free and unbiased Medicare help, dial [phone] to speak with my trusted partner, Chapter, or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://askchapter.org/drdrew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Chapter and its affiliates are not connected with or endorsed by any government entity or the federal Medicare program. Chapter Advisory, LLC represents Medicare Advantage HMO, PPO, and PFFS organizations and stand alone prescription drug plans that have a Medicare contract. Enrollment depends on the plan’s contract renewal. While we have a database of every Medicare plan nationwide and can help you to search among all plans, we have contracts with many but not all plans. As a result, we do not offer every plan available in your area. Currently we represent 50 organizations which offer 18,160 products nationwide. We search and recommend all plans, even those we don’t directly offer. You can contact a licensed Chapter agent to find out the number of products available in your specific area. Please contact Medicare.gov, 1-800-Medicare, or your local State Health Insurance Program (SHIP) to get information on all of your options. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Executive Producers • Kaleb Nation - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • Susan Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/firstladyoflove⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Content Producer • Emily Barsh - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/emilytvproducer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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for public health officials to continue to ignore the vaccine injured. And then I'll be joined later in the show by Darren Prince, who's here to speak about his recovery and about his extraordinary story from coming out of the depths of addiction. His career at the height was representing Magic Johnson, Muhammad Ali. He's had two decades over now, and he has aiming high foundation and a big gala coming up. We're going to talk about that and his book as well.

But first, my friend Kat Tamp joins me. In the studio, she is here with us. Lots of things to talk about with her. Before the mic's heated up, I mentioned Linda Blair and her dogs. If you want to know what that story is all about. There she is. We will tell you about that in mere moments. Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre.

The psychopaths start this thing. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction. Fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous. I'm a doctor for a sick. Where the hell you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to try. treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals.

Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Loveland all the time. Educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat. You have trouble. You can't stop and you want to help stop it. I can help. I got a lot to say. I got a lot more to say. Kat Tamf is a writer, speaker, comedian, television personality, who is on regularly with Gutfeld on Fox News. National Tour, you can't joke about that live, which was sold out nationwide. You can follow Kat on X. Kat Timp, K-A-T-T-I-M-E-F. The book also was, I used to like you until, wait a minute. Yeah, I used to like you until, right?

Yeah. And each of us have been, there's no one in the public anymore that doesn't get, that doesn't get said to. Of course. I was such a fan until. Until you said this one thing that I disagreed with and now I wish you and your whole family would die. Right. It's really kind of like that. It is absolutely like that.

It's so bizarre because oftentimes it's something you're not even worth of a note, right? No. And you've offended them and you've fallen from grace. And my feeling is like if I'm already so sort of tenuous, let's get it over with. Yeah. The craziest thing is when for me, I've had a little bit of it with having the same opinion that I've had for my whole entire career about foreign policy, for example. Yes. And then, you know, Trump decided to do the around.

I have concerns about this. I think it will potentially last longer than one month and we won't see a Democratic government in Iran in one month. So far so good. I mean, I didn't want to be right. I didn't want to be right. I wanted, of course I would want to be wrong. But yet a lot of people say that I was, you know, a traitor and horrible and that my cancer, hopefully my cancer comes back. Nice.

You know, it's like, dude, it's like because we disagree about a foreign policy issue, you want to. me to die. I mean, I get it if I like broke into your home and, you know, stole from you, maybe attacked your family, then maybe that kind of reaction I would understand. Well, to be fair, we live in this world where offending people has currency. Now if you saw Bill Maher last week, someone said, oh yeah, one of his guests said, I'm offended. He goes, I don't care. Well, we've got to get over that. This is, offense is nothing. It doesn't mean anything. No. No. And it's, And it's also like, it's so easy. I mean, because it's both sides do it.

Right? Like both sides do it. Well, speaking of both sides doing it, I think the heat you get is because people don't really understand libertarianism. And they don't understand how hardcorey libertarian instincts are. And talking to you at dinner last night about how you were as a kid, I began to understand where the libertarians stuff comes from. So, I mean, where it really is in you. It's in you. I'm just skeptical of the powerful, whether it's government or corporations or whatever.

I'm like, really? Is that really? Did you see Dana Bash with RFK Jr? Yeah. Skepical of the powerful. She doesn't have that, I don't think. He was saying, that's your job. Be skeptical. Be skeptical of me.

But don't pretend that you're using a mallet from some scientific authority. This whole notion that everything is by, you know, do you know why by Galileo went was exiled? Really why he was exiled? Why was he really exiled? He wasn't that they really objected to his heliocentrism and all this sort of idea. that we navigated around the earth. There was a huge bureaucracy at the time, much like we have a scientific bureaucracy now.

And he kept kind of poking at it. And they go, Mr. Galileo, if this is true, if we really go around the sun, all this biblical interpretation is going to have to be re-evaluated. And we're not really up for it. For instance, there's one thing in the book of Joshua where it says that God stopped the sun in the sky from going around the earth.

And he went, no, no, no, not only is it, does not affect that in any way. It's more fantastic because he stopped all the planets in the sky. And they're like, yeah, we're not ready. And so his friend became the Pope. His friend became the Pope. And he convinced him that he ought to be able to write a book about this phenomenon, Copernicanism. And the Pope finally went, all right, but listen, you're going to have to put this one thing in there

that I insist you put in there, which is essentially no one could be certain about God's plans. Essentially, that's what it was. And he wrote the book about a dialogue between three characters, which was common back then, particularly in scientific and philosophical discourse. But he was one of them. There was another guy that was sort of challenging him. And the third was a guy named Simplicio, which means Simpleton. Got it.

And he put, guess who got the Pope's argument? Yeah. Simplicio. You're exiled. Yeah, boom. But that's the kind of shit. I thought he could get one over on the Pope. Exactly.

And that's the kind of stuff we're dealing with now. There's this scientific bureaucracy and medical bureaucracy. Yeah. And people aren't allowed to have not been allowed to question it recently. That's a new thing again. But we have to undo that. And Dana Bash should be leading the charge of trying to dismantle that. Right.

Well, I would think that the harder you rode for these experts, the more upset you would be, actually. Yes. Yes. I think that if you were somebody who, you know, A lot of people, the whole time throughout COVID, I obviously had no idea it was going on. I didn't know what was real, what wasn't real. But one thing that I never did and that I never could bring myself to do would be to say to everyone like, oh, just stay home with the word just there. If I was saying that from my office, you know, from my job where I was still employed in making money, telling other people just stay home when there's no just there.

Staying home for these people means that your business is not making money, your restaurant, your gym, whatever it is. You're having to pay rent and you have no income coming in. So I feel like a lot of people in media did say that. They were like just in it. I don't know how you could do that because you're saying it while you are yourself still making money. And also being sanctimonious with this. It's to save everybody. It's to be a part of the collective.

Right. So bad. As always, collectivism becomes authoritarianism very quickly. It does. And all these people had said they yelled at people for not of that. mask on, those are the prison guards. They are them. Well, you know, Cam would be going out for a run.

Your husband. Yes, my husband's, sorry. I forgot he's not famous. So he would be. Oh, here's when your fans. You're a fake bitch. He used to like you until. He would be going out for a run and then, you know, he'd have a mask.

He would have his mask down and he'd get yelled at. Oh, I ran out on, you've seen these streets here open they are. I ran past someone. I ran, I got off the sidewalk, ran in the gutter, and this man jumped away from me like I was on fire. Outside. Outside. And it's just.

And it's dangerous to run with your face covered like that. I just won't do it. There's no reason for it. You know, I saw footage of DeSantis going, take your mask. He was yelling at his staff. Don't do anything. Stop it.

If it did something like I have you do it, it's nothing. It's just theater and I won't have it. Yeah. He was right. Speaking of right, before the, as I said, before the mics heated up, I was reading something about Linda Blair and you immediately dove right into it. Linda Blair is the exorcist, young lady. And she has had a farm for a long time that she allegedly ran by herself. Did you read that in the stories?

I did. Yeah, I just did a little bit of research. But the animal control people have been investigating her lately out here, I think it's in Southern California, because she is alleged to have had 100 dogs. I'm, okay. How? You know what I mean? Like, how do you meet 100 dogs? I guess online, maybe online, you know, because it's like...

Is you asking like, how does somebody have sex with a hundred men? Is this the same question? Kind of. It's kind of the exact same question. How do you meet 100 men? How do you meet 100 dogs? But I guess the internet helps in both of those. Because ever since I adapted a one-eyed cat, I just, my whole Instagram feed is cats with

disabilities. And I do want to take them. all in. But I don't, but I would, but I don't. But even then I think like, so you have a hundred cats. Right. I'm a cat person. I'm a hundred percent. I mean, I love animals, but I'm a cat person. But I, like, I feel like at 15 I would stop. I feel like a hundred. I don't even think I have enough time in my schedule to pick them up, you know? By the way, you can't do a drop off in-house if you already have 90 there. I'm assuming she's having to go pick them up, right? I'm thinking of all the logistics of this. She keeps them.

Right, but like she can't say, okay, let's say you find a dog to foster or adopt online. Okay, okay. You can't say come over and bring the dog here. If you have 90 there already, you probably have to go pick it up. Probably. How are you finding all the time? Oh, I see. Well, she made a lot of money off the existence.

She doesn't work. A dog farmer ever since. I remember when I met her, what's that? I'm going to look at it. Okay, Susan's going to look into it. But I remember when I met her, she was driving a, like, a Winnebago around the country. That was her thing. That was her thing.

Yeah. I feel like the Winnebago around the country to rescue animal pipeline is, it's strong. Pretty tight. It's strong. Yeah. All right. So let's talk about gutfill for a second. Sure.

Sure. How has this whole experience been for you? And has it been sort of intriguing? Have you think about it? I know. It has been a wild experience for me, for sure. Because, I mean, I grew up like, well, I mean, in college, I would watch Red Eye. And then I wanted to be on Red Eye.

Tell them quickly your story out here. Southern couple of years. Yeah, I used to live here. I used to live here, but I was an intern, and then I was a wait, I was going to go to Columbia Journalism School. Who were you an intern? Fox News for the Fox Business Network. And then I had been accepted. I was actually enrolled into Columbia Journalism School. And then shortly. But you, you'd actually been accepted at Columbia, Columbia University. Okay. Yeah. I was enrolled. And everything. I was ready to go. And then my, so the whole plan was after my housing stipend, ran out for my intern. I was going to move in with my college boyfriend. In New York City. In L.A. We were going to live together for the final two weeks of my internship. And then we were going to break up. And I was going to move to New York City for my...

Very primatic. I mean, whatever. I'm 21. I'm an idiot. Okay. But I was smart enough at least to realize, okay, this school costs $80,000 for one year. I don't have $80,000.

My family doesn't have $80,000. And then I just took a look at what a typical entry-level journalism job paid you. And I was like, I'm never going to pay this back. How am I going to ever pay this back? Right. So I unenrolled. You were early to the game of questioning the investment of these fancy institutions.

Right. But everyone told me I was such an idiot because I stayed out here. I guess I like non-consensually moved in with the guy, but just like I didn't go anywhere. We were supposed to break up in two weeks. I was like, well, I guess I stay here now. I mean, we broke. Eventually. Eventually.

Actually, I actually quote, you know, within a six months or so. But then you were waiting tables. Well, I worked at Boston Market. There's no waitresses there, are there? No, I was a cashier and I cleaned the bathroom. And then I waited tables at a diner that I think is closed down since it was in Sherman Oaks, 4 and 20. It was not weed related. It was just like 4 and 20 blackbirds baked in a pie because it was like a pie place.

So we would have people come in all the time, like thinking there was weed in the pie. And I was like, dude, there's no weed in the pie. I, 420 blackbirds baked in a pot, whatever. I did traffic reporting. I did... From a helicopter. From a helicopter. I got fired after six months, and I shouldn't have lasted six months.

You know me with directions. I don't know where I'm going. It was horrible. They thought I had a good voice for radio. And there was a famous Rhonda something. We had a famous reporter at that time. Yeah, was it May. Yeah, I know.

But she would, she did the first traffic report on a rock station where she talked to the talent. Yeah. And it became this thing. Yeah. I mean, I got laid up. I was doing stand-up and, you know, waiting tables. Because my life sucked.

So I would. There's lots of laugh at. Yeah. Well, that's kind of how I dealt with it because eventually the guy and I broke up, I moved in this horrible apartment, this horrible neighborhood. I got fleas and scabies in the same week. And then I lost the apartment. And I'd move in with this bartender.

I was like, kind of seeing. But I was like, just because I need to live here doesn't mean we're together. Like, it was a whole man. I mean, I was taught with it. but it was a whole mess and I was I just kind of had always had an interest in it

so I started going to open mics and I started getting on stage and making you like telling jokes about this stuff and that gave me this sense of power over, that's my first book's about gave me this sense of power over these things that were hurting me

and that's still how I deal with everything is I go on stage and make fun of it because then it's like oh this is trying to destroy me but it's not so big that I can't make fun of it and that kind of gives you a sense of power in my view over whatever it is

trying to take you down. And then Greg, how did you get to meet him? So I ended up getting a job in D.C. where I was doing a lot of man on the street stuff. And then I had a video that went super viral. So it was, I was at a feminist conference. And I was interviewing people like, what does feminism mean to you? And they saw that I worked at campus reform, which is very conservative.

But also, like, I'm a, I am a feminist. I'm not like a, I don't know if anybody, I'm not a trad wife by any means. I'm not like churning butter. I don't even know how to, I don't even really know how to make breakfast. I, you know. I'm not even sure you're straight. Yeah. Not entirely.

Yeah. So definitely far from, but they thought I was, you know, I think that, which even if I was would not have justified the way they treated me, which they started physically blocking me from interviewing people. Like, don't talk to her. And by the way, that was novel. Now that's routine. Yeah, now it's routine.

It was novel back then. This was maybe 2013, 2014, something like that. And obviously. And it obviously went super viral. and it was on Fox News all day, so they had me on to be interviewed about it. And I think the answers I was giving to the questions were just like not typically what you would think.

And so Greg saw me, and he was like, she's kind of weird, we shop her on Red Eye. And the rest is just kind of history. So we hit it off, and then he was getting this new weekly show. And he... Do you know, I pulled Joan aside

and I said, because I was doing it with you occasionally. Yeah. And I said this is a hit five nights a week. I guarantee you. I guarantee you. And she goes, I don't if I can deal with Greg five nights.

It is a challenge. You need to deal with Greg five nights a week. As anyone who works with him five days a week will tell you. But you just have to be able to just tell him like, dude, dude, dude. That's the only way you deal with you have to be drunk. Although he got mad at me last time I was on on Tuesday and he announced on the five that he and I were going to a rock concert together. Which surprised me. That I would be wanting to go to a rock concert.

Surprised me too. I would go with him. I would go with him. But he just, he accidentally put me on a thread. And I went, oh, that sounds like fun. I'll see you tonight. Meaning that the show. And he took that.

And there was no other exchange than that. And he was mad at me. I felt so bad afterwards. So anyway, he gets over it. He gets over stuff. He does get over stuff. But yeah, he gets, yeah. Because he was acting.

I remember he was like, oh, I have to go to this. I have to go to this. show, what am I going to do? The concert? Yes, and it's like Greg. Sometimes I look at him, I just say, you're going to be okay. It's going to be okay. That's really funny.

And then I pissed him off. Yeah, well. I mean, it was in Brooklyn. It was in Brooklyn. And I already have hearing problems. It would screw me up for good. I love live music. I'll go out to see my favorite band at the place there a lot.

Which is? The Brian Jonestown Massacre is my favorite band. Brian Johnston Massacre. You guys share your love of, uh... Yeah, punk and psychedelic rock. Yeah, but the one. band particularly with the crazy face on the back of his clipboard. Oh, misfits.

Well, Jerry's a friend of mine. The bass player is a big friend of ours. I met him at Kennedy's, whatever that was, wedding shower. Yeah, and then he was at my baby shower. Oh, maybe it was your baby shower. He's at my baby shower. He's at my baby shower. And he's a good friend of mine. We went and they did Coachella last year and we went to Coachella.

I remember that. And I got some backlash for going to Coachella because I was like six weeks postpartum or something like that. Oh, you left your baby. I left my baby for two. Two days. I left my baby for two days. I had also just cut my tits off three weeks before that. So like that doesn't protect you by the way. Like if you just had to cut your tits off and you're like, you know what? It would make me feel good to go see my friends band play. I'll remember. I won't come my tits on. It doesn't matter. They'll still come after you. Like they were like you should be at home with your bed. It's like, dude, I left for two days. You know, speaking of cutting your tits off. I can't take a break in a second here. But we, we. We. Um, I can't take a break in a second here. But we, um, we, um, we talked about something I don't know

we were sitting at the table the other day and I thought it was very interesting that people have been criticizing you they used to like you until you cut you cut your teeth off

and then they were sent you too aggressive you shouldn't do this and there was a couple of things that came up in the conversation I thought we as physicians don't necessarily think about this which is one

because you were very aggressive surgically you didn't have to have radiation and you didn't have to have the hormone blockers which made people miserable and could affect fertility Yes. And so things like other babies were like, would it would have been in the question, would probably not because you're a geriatric.

I'm old. I'm old. Being older. By then, five years from now, you would be geriatric. For real. And I would have had to do like the IVF thing and I would have had to wait a really long time, you know, years. I'd have to wait multiple years and then go then go off of them to get pregnant and then go back on them. So then, I mean, it could have been a situation where like I was in. medical menopause and then went directly into, you know, had a baby and then and then went into medical menopause again and then went into menopause. Which is the other point.

Which is the other point, which is it makes hormone replacement for you a possibility. Because, yeah. Because there's no more breast tissue. But I mean, you can discuss this with your doctor stuff, but it becomes a possibility and it would have been an impossibility with all that menopausal shit going on. All that, you know, pregnant, not pregnant metapausal. Explain why you cut your tits off. Oh, sure, sure.

I had breast cancer. I had breast cancer and it was staged. And your mom had breast cancer. Yeah, I brought mom and my aunt. Tell them how weird it was that you found it. I found it. It was during pregnancy. Yeah, during pregnancy, like towards the end of my pregnancy.

I was using a breast pump to try to stimulate labor and my sister was over. And she saw it like a bum and she's like, yo, that looks crazy. You need to show that to your doctor. And your boobs, you know, they look weird when you like it towards the end of pregnancy. So I didn't really think much of it. your whole body looks like crazy. So I was like, whatever. And so I showed my doctor at the end of my appointment.

And I was just kind of like thought I was being like crazy first time. I'll never forget this. She jumped back. She jumped. I'm like, oh no. Like this is never what you want when you take your shirt off. I ultimately had to get an ultrasound and I'd get a biopsy. And then I was diagnosed.

They called me and they said, how are you doing? And then I'm like, that's never good. That's never good. And then, yeah. And then I was, I diagnosed with, and then I went into labor 15 hours after that. Wow. I didn't realize it was that quick. 15 hours.

And then the surgery was two weeks later? Surgery was a month later. Month later. And good. And the only, were there any regrets in the surgery? No. I mean. You expressed one on the show one night.

So, yeah, that I didn't get big, go bigger. Like I see Sydney, I'm like, I just had just gone, I should have just gone cartoonishly huge. Should have gone full Sydney Sweeney. Yeah, because nobody can really say anything to me about it. So he should just gone cartoonishly huge. and I'd be like, hey guys, like I'm brave. That's got your stuff.

What were you saying? Finish your thought and then I got to go to break. Oh, I don't remember my thought. It's okay. All right, cat timp everybody, follow her on X, get her book. See her on Gutfeld. And we're going to take a little break. And we're going to be up in about 15, 20 minutes,

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Just go to Dr.dry.com slash chapter. So, Kat, you're ready? Oh, by the way, Linda Blair is worth $12 million and she makes $2 million a year. Who said I was tired, by the way? I'm going to tell them to go fuck themselves. Well, they're gone. We chase them off. I told him, I said, we don't do full makeup here.

Yeah, I don't have a hair and makeup team, you dick sucker. Like, go fuck yourself. It makes me so mad. And also to try to like, to try to like be like, You look good. You look good. Yeah, great. Also, to just be like, I'm concerned.

Oh, I'm sure you are. Uh-uh. Fucking loser. Well, your daddy came to your, uh, defense defense and told the guy to fuck off and everything and then everybody got mad at him because he could like how long have you been on planet earth that you don't know you're not supposed to say that a woman looks tired unless you're trying to be me with an 18 month old truly traveling by the thing is sorry so the reason she's here is we're all going to a wedding with the mutual friend we're going to kind of leave it at that we have to travel a fair distance to get there and my son's the ring bearer

he is much like our granddaughter he's a force to reckon with he is a forced to recognize. And I again at dinner last time I discovered very much like yourself. Yeah. Very, very, very similar. Doesn't like frustration. No. Doesn't like convention. No. No. No, it's his way. His way. He wants it his way. He expects a lot from himself. He probably wouldn't like anyone telling him he looked tired either. Like, I'm sorry I didn't put my lashes on for you, dickhead. Like, so let's get, let's, let's bring it down a notch and just Talk about what's up with your tour, your comedy, where do people go. Yeah.

No, I'm having so much fun on stage. It's my favorite thing is being on stage. So, well, yeah, I'm going to be in Honolulu next weekend. Are we going to be there with you? Is anybody? I don't know. Are you guys going to be with you in Honolulu? Next weekend.

Are you going? Is that a Monday? Sunday. Are you coming? Yeah. I'm just finding this out. Why don't I go up there with you a little? Yeah, we could do something.

We could figure something out. We could figure something out. I could do maybe like 45 minutes. instead of 60 and then we can like, yeah. Through a Q&A or something. Yeah. But you, you, the real cattimp.com for tickets to all my shows. I'm all over the country.

That is very funny. And when I, the one thing you said last show I saw you did that I thought was interesting. And I don't know if you meant it or if you say at every show, but you said, I'm going to tell you a shit ton of things that could get me fired. So please keep it here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do. And I thought that's a really interesting way to get the audience in. But it's true. Well, you proceeded to do things that I thought you'd get fired for.

I definitely. I mean, I definitely, like, I don't want people film it. Because it's also, I'm also working out new stuff a lot of the time. So it's, you know, it's supposed to be just like we're all hanging out. That's what live entertainment's supposed to be. It's not supposed to be. When people get out their phones, start filming stand-up comedians, it's like, come on. No, no.

You tell a lot of stories and a lot of self-deprivation. Yes, I'm the biggest target of my material. Which is my kind of favorite humor. You know, it's like, I was a huge Richard Pryor fan back in the, that's just stories, you know. Yeah. And then I like our people take aim at themselves. So, so all right.

And where did they go to get the information about it? Kattymph. The real cattimp.com. It's like in my bio or whatever, if you can't remember all those words. Also something, another fun fact. Drew and I are going to meet real dolphins next week too. Yes. Oh, you are.

Yes. So when we travel with you in the Caribbean, we made some dolphin videos that became very popular. Right. Now this one got it in her head that I have to be with a real dolphin. Okay. So when are you doing this? So when I go, Drew, like it's a dolphin. Animal.

Actually be a real dolphin. Activist may have issue with this, but we're going to have. No, it's a good, it's a good, it's in, it's at the call it. There's a, there's cat's book. What's in the book? Hawaii. Entice them to read the book. I mean, there's a lot of, speaking of, there's, I'm surprising, I'm fired over what's in the book.

There's a lot of deeply personal stories in the book. And, you know, it's just, it kind of just, it kind of just, opens your eyes if they're not open already and if they are then maybe you'll have more evidence to back up what you already believe just to you know the way that there's like the partisan political industrial complex oh my god that gets us to hate each other over stuff that truly isn't real it's not real well i hope the fouchy files let's call them weight people up to how different when people think and feel in their personal thoughts as opposed to what they say publicly there's a huge gap between what people actually believe what people say they believe yeah speaking of that

I'm going to bring Romio Gendra in here. You've got about 10 more minutes before that you've got to go to a meeting. Yeah, I know, right? That's a good sign. And we're going to talk a little Fauci stuff here. Dr. Ogendra has been a feature on this show over the years because he early on started raising questions, much like I did. He's an anesthesiologist, a background in public health, undergraduate degree,

let's see, master of public health, tropical and communicable diseases from from New Jersey, South Florida, MD from St. George University. and he's been flying around the country since COVID doing a lot of anesthesia at work. You can follow him on X. It is Dr. Yostradamus, Yostradamus, and COVID Longhaulers.com. He's been treating a lot of COVID long haulers.

Rom, thank you and welcome back. Hey, good seeing you, Dr. Drew. So just quickly, before we get into the whole, well, you and I'll talk about long haulers once I released CAD. How did you? you come away from this recent hearing with Dr. Fauci? What did you think? Were you feel vindicated? Were you angry? Were you like, no, duh. Of course he must have been feeling

that way because it was consistent. We were all saying at the time. Yes, I think there's a series of emotions, Drew. It's, I think, anger, you know, frustration. Like you're screaming some of these things on the top of the mountain, to speak. All of us, right? There's a lot of physicians. out there and then immediately hit pieces and smear pieces and death threats and all the things that we've had to go with our professional careers getting threatened, boards being reported, people smearing our reputation all over the place because we were just asking simple questions. And so I think it's a lot of different emotions, anger, frustration. I think also, I think most of us like clinicians like you and me, Drew, we see these patients on a daily basis.

You have set patients our way to treat in our program that are both vaccine injured and long COVID. So I know you've seen these patients in your practice and people in your circle. And I think as a physician. I'm still frustrated by the fact that you can't ask systematic questions about vaccine injury or long COVID either because it might implicate the vaccine. So you're not allowed to really dig into long COVID. You're not allowed to ask whether it could be both the Vax and the COVID. I mean, what's what's what?

Because oh my God, you might implicate the vaccine. I got a cat going about five, six minutes. But I wonder if you have any questions about all this vouchy stuff. Did you come away with anything from that? I mean, I wasn't super fresh. I'm super surprised. Right, to see it. Well, we were because we were also the adamancy and the devastating takedowns.

Those were their words. Take them down. Nothing like that existed before in science. No, it was crazy. People who were saying completely reasonable stuff had their lives ruined for it. Like maybe this virus came from this lab full of viruses where the outbreak started. Like people's lives were destroyed over that. And it sucked because people, we really should have been trying to actually explore this

and figure out what's going on with this novel virus. Of course. And asking whatever questions you wanted should have been encouraged and exploring as many things. Because, I mean, we really politicized a virus. It's absolutely insane. It's a medicine, politicized a virus. Well, because now there's this huge, understandably so,

lack of trust in institutions. So now nobody, there is a segment of the population to trust no doctor for any reason about anything about what they say about anything. And that's going to have lasting consequences. Yep, yep. Yeah. And in the hearing him talk about, you know, maybe the wet market was an amplifying event and it seems like it is coming from the lab. And oh, by the way, six feet was just made up. Made up. Oh, by the way, lockdowns, well, it looks like they're probably not useful to close the schools.

And I'm saying that the transmission rates this, but really I actually think it's this. And the vaccine is 100% effective. And it's a, he made up this phrase. It's a pandemic of the unvaccinated. I thought I wouldn't get COVID because I got vaccinated. I did. And I've admitted that. I've admitted that I thought I wouldn't, that's why I got it. It's because I was worried about getting COVID. I didn't want to get COVID. When did you get it? And then I, when did you get the vaccine? Um, uh, in 2021. So quite a bit later. Do you have trouble getting it? It wasn't, it was 2020. I wasn't too. I wasn't too. No, I had. Yeah, it was either 2020 to or 21. I think it was 2021. Okay. I'm almost sure. Um, but yeah. And then I got so much COVID, obviously. I've had it like, I've had it like, I was either 2020 to 20, I've had it like, I've had it like, I've had it like, I've had three times COVID that I know of, but I think it might have had it one more time. It was a false sense of security. Yeah. We all thought we wouldn't get it. I got like COVID five times and I've had three. Well, the fact you got three bugs me.

But I mean, it was during the early days, like, okay, I take the vaccine. I don't need it. I've had COVID. All right. Well, I was like, okay, so I was about to get married. So I was like, I don't want to get COVID before my wedding. So I'll get the vaccine. Oh, my God.

You couldn't have your wedding. Remember that? Yeah. I want people to remember what that was like. You can only have 30 people in a room and they all have to wear a mask. My wedding had to be canceled because I wanted to have more than 10 people there. And I really only had like 20, 30 people. It was a small wedding.

It wasn't like I was trying to throw a giant bang or it was small. But still, like just the fact that the governor was saying how many people we could have at your apartment. Yeah. You know, like how we could have in your own home. I mean, do we not remember how crazy that was? Yeah. And the fact that our God-given natural rights and privileges were completely gone and that they harmed children. This should be a major deal.

I have a feeling, you know, there's people that were observing what happened after World War II in Germany. They sort of documented that everyone that perpetrated that war that were left afterwards. We're just like, I don't want to look at that. Let's get on with it. Much like we're doing with COVID. Now, we're over, we're over, we're over. But the next generation as it came in, we're like, hey, what the hell was that? What was going on there?

So I feel like people that are in like junior high school now are going to be the ones in about five or six years. I'm going to start going, what the hell? What was that? What are you doing? You put me under my bed. In this town, shelter in place. Our mayor got on the TV every night and said, shelter in place. He was shelter in place.

If you're a child at home, not going to school, shelter in place. Sounds like there's an incoming nuclear weapon. Yeah. Yeah. How damaging is that? And I think that they're, I mean, it's been pretty much proven statistically that there's kids that have had lasting issues. I just had a random thought. Okay. Random. I wonder if there would be so many people on OnlyFans if there was no COVID-19.

Well, we did document that there was an extraordinary amount of porn exposure to. A boom, a porn boom. Yeah, a porn boon to high school kids and even junior high school kids and sexting too. And so this was massively massive exposure. We still don't know what that's going to do to kids. And then everybody who stayed home was like, well, I got to make a living here. So let me get naked. Have you thought about it on OnlyFand?

No, I think I'd be good at it. There's no mastectomy. Yeah, that's the thing. I feel like I do have the option of doing it and I can do it. Not everyone can do this. I can do it as a hero. Do you know what I mean? It's not slutty.

Like I am breaking down barriers for women who have had mastectomies with my You know what I mean? I can no longer dress slutty anymore. I can only dress brave. Oh, nice. I see. Yeah. And if, let me go quickly over to my Rumble rants because they were pretty active over us.

They agree with you guys. So, uh, uh, oh, here's someone said really messed up my daughter. If you've ever been on only fans? Yeah, there's kids, especially people who, like, I was so extrovert. Like, if you're extroverted and you're social and that's how you energize, it's messed up for you to lock. you in the house. Oh, how about if you like contributing and doing things and being a part of the world? I mean, it's just humans need to do that. And we lost track of that. And we all did it because this one guy, or this one little group of guys decided they had to do this. And it was all ultimately,

Rahm, having been through all this now, I've sort of looked at everything very carefully. I think one of the really serious mishaps in all this was, and I'm going to let Kat go in about two minutes, but I want to ask her this question first. And then, Rahm, I'll have you comment on it. There was a cozy relationship scientifically between the U.S. and China. We were really collaborating a lot scientifically, and there was trust.

And no understanding amongst me or anybody else in the scientific community that the People's Liberation Army and the CCP was very involved with anything science. And so when the contingency from Dr. Fauci's office went to China to look at how they achieve zero COVID, which was total bullshit.

Right. It was just to impress President Xi have taken care of no COVID here. Yeah. Total bullshit. They said, wait, this is how you do it. They came back and said, we got to be like that. Forget the pandemic preparedness plan,

which took the position that there's no evidence that lockdowns do anything except harm people. We got to do it because the Chinese said you got to do it. That is a, that piece of, that chapter needs to be writ large. I know, but nobody talks about it. Nobody talks about it. Like, you know, just ignoring all. not just science, but just basic logic and reason.

It's a respiratory virus. It is aerosolized. It's not droplet. It's not spit. It's aerosolized, meaning it's when you cough it travels 30 to 60 feet. That's how far it travels. Six feet doesn't do shit. No.

And everyone knew that. And there's still those stickers on the floor. You go to the grocery store. It's everywhere. Susan had when I was in New York. I bought one. I want a picture with it. Yeah, they still are.

I saw one this morning at a parking structure. I'm like, I want to just, I want to just, take a dump on it or something. You should. You definitely get attention. Dr. Drew takes a dump in public. Oh, my God. That'll bring our Instagram ratings up.

It says here, Alex Jones had laid out that China connection. Well, I don't, but the China connection, the part that I caught, though, was the, the coziness with the, the relationship. And by the way, all right, we'll talk to you again to read this, but I'm going to let you go. It's time for you to go to your meeting. Thank you. Not an A.A. meeting. You have to specify around here.

Not an A&A is a business meeting. It's a production meeting or whatever. And we will see you at dinner time. Yes. Yeah. See later. All right. Come to my camera here now so Kat can escape. Not that one.

This one. There we go. So, Ram, go ahead if you don't mind and comment on that story. I just laid out about China and their sort of influence on Dr. Fauci and his team. Yeah. It's clear now, it was clear for a lot of us back in 2020 and 2021. We were having these discussions, but now in the greater public, we're having this discussion about the origins of COVID.

I feel like the people and physicians expert, quote unquote experts, that there's still a refusal to have a discussion. I think people have dug into the trenches of whatever fake conflict lines, that they're part of and they're entrenched in it. So you can have a discussion and say, all right, it's a lab leak versus a wet market naturally found. And I feel like the both sides, no one wants to have that discussion,

especially the ones early on. Maybe we start questioning their expertise, which is what is happening now. I think Kat mentioned in the earlier segment, we've lost the trust of our institutions. No one trusts the CDC or the NIH or the FDA. We talk about, we are working with the FDA and collaborating with them. And the first thing people go is I don't trust them.

And there's a deep suspicion through all of this. And I think that's the major fallout of when I listen to these voucher hearings and everything we've all gone through in the last six years. It's going, well, moving forward, what kind of public health and a medical system do we have now? Yeah, yeah. And, you know, RFK Jr. very courageously came out and took on Dana Bash. And I thought what he was saying was completely appropriate and to the point.

And if people like Dana Bash or Jake Tapper or Anthony Fauci would go, hey, you know what? Much like Federman did. He goes, I apologize for the stuff I got wrong. He picked up one thing out, but we'll hear more apologies. as he starts to realize there were other things got wrong. It's not that hard. It's not that hard. But somehow Fauci was like a narcissistic extension of everybody on the news.

And so to question him was to somehow attack themselves. It was an odd dynamic that was going on. It's, I think most of us saw that in 2020 and 2021. Yeah. We are the target of hit pieces. We are the target of reputational smears from this media that, appears to be working in Concord together with Fauci and other health care officials. And again, when you start, when all of that comes out in the open, we're never gaining that trust again, maybe for generations.

And I'll say this to be true. I don't know. I don't know that's true. No, I'm going to take you on that one. I think we'll find our way back pretty quickly if we get set the record straight. because that's what we do. We are, you know, we're trained to be so focused on what's right for the patient. And you don't have to do that for very long before people start to feel a little better about things, especially.

Like, it's like we were all trained on what pertains to malpractice suits. You always admit when you were wrong, when you made a mistake quickly and thoroughly and, you know, apologize and get on with things. If you hide stuff or you miss you defensive about things, that's when people get. get angry. But true, I see a point, but we live in a very hyper-partisan politics that has completely taken over every single aspect of our lives, whether it's at the dinner table or Thanksgiving, and now in sports. The one thing, as Americans, we could all come together. Now it's just torn. There's very, you know, inflammatory comments and any little thing is blown up. So we can't even come together. And I don't know, I don't know, Dr. Drew. I don't know how long this is going to take.

But I do know as clinicians, physicians on the front line, we've lost the trust of the general public. We can give guidelines and we can say, well, the consensus is this. It's a lot of, we're getting a lot of pushback. So I think the fallout is still continuing. Well, I appreciate you stopping by here today. Next week, you're going to come back. We're going to get deeper into the long COVID story and what you guys have been using for treatment and what you're thinking about the pathophysiology of long COVID versus long Vax and what we think we know, what we don't know, and, you know, what kind of progress you've made since we talked, probably was it 18 months ago or two years ago? But we'll look for you

as Dr. Yostradamus, yes? Yes? Yeah, Yostradamus. All right, we'll see you again. Thanks for something. Bye. All right. Thanks, Dr. We're going to take another quick little break and bring Darren Prince in here. He's got a story of recovery and a gala coming up. I want to be sure to alert you guys about to be right back with Darren right up to this. Hey, Dr. Drew here and we are interested in health and longevity and the longevity nutrient is Fat 815 discovered amazingly by a veterinarian who was responsible for the Navy's fleet of dolphins. Turns out dolphins are healthier when they have adequate amounts of pentadecinoic acid, which is C-15. It also for us, helps humans as well, reduces the oxidative stress on our cell membranes,

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So, first of all, talk about aiming high and what that experience was like writing that book and what it was about. Well, thank you. for the support first off on that because you and I, it's comical, but it's not how you and I connected many years ago. And I thought it was 18 months sober.

And you were very proud of me back in 2007. And you asked how I did it. And I said, well, I've been on Suboxone for a year and a half and I'm just not taking opioids anymore. And you were the ship that I needed because he said, no, now you're very well addicted to the Sabat zone. And that was even harder getting off of. You know, I had different signs over the years when my dad

By the way, Darry, let me interrupt you. I want to interrupt you real quick before you continue with the story. I am not, I don't condemn people from being on Suboxone. If somebody's on a milligram or a little low dose or whatever they need, or if they have chronic pain in there on Suboxone, I get it. But you were not sober. You were just not sober at the time. I certainly liked in a pro.

And you definitely should be off all that stuff, too. So you're definitely that person. So, yes. And I wasn't in a program either. I have no spirituality in my life. So I agree with you. There are people that do need it when they have real physical pain. But, you know, my dad always wanted me to write a book about my career of, you know,

representing the most iconic athletes and celebrities in the world. And it just sort of manifested one day where when I met with my publisher at the time, Anna David, she was like, why don't you write a story, not about those stories because I know they're so sacred to you, but more about people being a fly on the wall of you being on the top of the mountain top of your industry, but going through the hell of addiction and coming out. on the other side and helping others. And that's when aiming high came about. And how did you, other than my little nudge, how did you get sober?

I had a godshot on July 2nd. My late uncle and his then girlfriend, Andrea, they visited me at my apartment, my condo in New Jersey. And I had no idea, but it was just tractor beams. I was at that jumping off point. I had that gift of desperation. and didn't want to wake up anymore the last two years of my using. And she just got dialed with me and asked if everything was okay. And I told her the truth, fully vulnerable.

And she pulled out a five-year silver coinette for her pocket and said, I can help you. And if you want this more than anything, follow what I'm going to tell you to do. And in hindsight, I probably should have gone to a treatment center. I light-knuckled it. And 24 hours later with the last of my opiates in my hand. flush the rest of the Suboxone. I got on my knees and screamed in the bathroom of the building. I was living in New York City with my then wife, Simone to take the money, take the business, take the notoriety. I need a single day of freedom that if you take me out of hell, I will spend one day

at a time taking those out of hell with me. And I've done that for the better part of, you know, 18 years. And I wound up in a 12-step meeting that night with about 150 to 200. It's an alcoholics who are all once in a hopeless state of mine. And for the, for the The first time in my life, Doc, felt a part of something, and I need more of it. They taught me that they were going to love me before I ever knew it. I love myself. You know, I always used to say to patients, like, look, you do what we tell you to do, you will get better. It's just, it's that simple.

It's just people won't do it. And you did it. You said the gift of desperation. And in a way, I'm sort of grateful that you didn't go to a treatment center because they might have said, hey, man, why are you getting off this stuff? Just stay on it. We'll taper you down next week. don't worry about it. You know what I mean? That happens a lot. Good point. It's a good point.

You're right. A white knuckle way, I guess, worked and having God on my side and God of my heart, and like we said, just when you're at that jumping off point, you know, you were around enough events I did around my book and we spoke a lot about it. Yeah, that was fun. It was really fun. But tell me about the foundation now and the gala. What happened was when aiming high came out. I was requested to speak all over from schools, colleges, and business events, charity events. And I started realizing that, as you know, you see every day in recovery, that I was turning the lights on in people's eyes that were talking to me about their deepest, darkest, mental health, and substance abuse issues.

But I didn't know what to do with them in that moment, and you know you only have a short window. And it just came to me with my resources, my connections, my relationship capital. let me start my own 501 C3, where we can scholarship those in need of mental health and substance abuse issues and get them on the track to get back on life and get the life that they deserve. And that's been aiming high foundation came about. And being Jersey born and Jersey raised, even though I live in California now in Los Angeles, we're doing our first annual aiming high foundation gala on October 1st in New Jersey.

and it should be a great homecoming. We're honoring some tremendous people. Mike, the situation, Tertino, from the Jersey Shore. Him and I go back 20-plus years. We worked together back then. Neither one of us were sober. And I've got my spiritual brother, Sean Callagy from Unblinded. He's just massive force of good NBA legend and dear friend,

Dominique Wilkins, who's flying in to be honored. And my biggest number one sober spiritual brother, Steve Delavale. And we're expecting just to raise a lot of money, get a great crowd. And I don't know if you know this because we haven't spoken probably in a little bit. We scholarship on average 30 to 40 people a year. And we also cover flights for veterans for all different banning treatment centers. And it is given me a new definition of wealth in life, as you know, those that live in a place of service.

So amazing, amazing. And so are the 30 or 40 scholarships, those for treatment at Banyan? No, many different treatment centers. You know, we've got sober living facilities. Yeah, and then we have treatment centers all over the country. They have arrangements with. And it's just such an miracle that we're able to do that. And you, I just want to say we used the name Banyan.

I want to point out that you had me meet with those people at Banyan. I met a lot of the staff. I was thoroughly impressed. And I can tell when a program is good and when it's not. And those guys, those guys had their program in the right place. It was really good. Exactly. But how do you choose who get, how do people apply?

How do you choose who gets these scholarships? How do you do that? A lot of it is random. A lot of it's on social media. I mean, if you look at my content, maybe 75% percent, it's about recovery. The agency, like the clients, whatever that is what it is. I feel that God has blessed me with the platform of still being an agent to so many iconic figures,

really tell my truth. There's a lot of people that will get vulnerable. They love that connection with Moon. They see me to a post and interview clip, even from my year that, they feel comfortable to DMA, and I drop everything. It doesn't matter how busy I am,

because, you know, the miracles that have happened where I've saved mothers, fathers, sister and brothers have heard from the kids when somebody comes out of a program and children get their mother and father back. it's just the greatest thing on in the world to be able to do that.

Yeah. Yeah. It's nice to see the recovery is kind of back on track again. It was being attacked for decades. I don't know if you're aware, but it was being eroded for a long time. Especially in this state, we had a governor saying, oh, no use of drugs. That's the craziest thing anybody ever said to anybody. He really was attacking recovery.

It's just, I think in a weird way, COVID, it caused a lot of problems, but it did a couple of favors. And one was it brought us Zoom meetings. And I really was skeptical of Zoom meetings when that all started. And lo and behold, they worked like crazy. And I'm completely wrong about that, too, amongst many other things I've gotten wrong. And it's brought more people into the tent and more people exposed to the recovery process. And so I really think things are kind of moving along in a positive direction for people right now.

Yeah, for sure. Shout out to my brother is at the isolator. group every day at 6 p.m. Pacific time I've probably met in person. It does enough of them already over the years and these are lifelong spiritual brothers and it's a beautiful thing that we have that. And, you know, and there are many other, we talked about all the pornography exposure to kids and there's going to be a lot of porn addiction and behavioral addictions and, you know, really significant stuff that 12 stuff can help with. Gambling. It doesn't all have to be drug and alcohol. Gambling, gambling, gambling. We got huge online.

Yeah, and believe me, these things can really help people. And it requires a lot of time and a lot of manpower to help somebody with these conditions, and that's what the 12-7 community offers. Yeah, for sure. When we got dinner last year, you man, so, and Joe, Monica Tuttle, you know, I told you too. I also feel like we're all the work in progress for people that are listening, whether it's substance abuse or capitalism or drugs. And, you know, there's so much deep inner work that we all can continue to do.

when you know how big I am on personal development for meditation, grounding, NLP sessions, and Longosic programming, because I think everything stems back to childhood, young adolescent years, and we can tap into that with breath work and staying still. I'm now in this new routine.

I don't go near my phone for the first hour. Every single day it's on silent. And it just allows me to be the best of me so I can then be selfish in that hour to then be selfless for the rest of the world that needs me. And I think it's so important for people to realize when you get that time to you, whether it's in a 12-step fellowship or without it, to stay still, it's everything. I mean, it's transformative. I completely agree.

Well, Darren, good luck with the event. I think we should sort of amplify it again, maybe on social media or something as September moves along. because I am so hot on organizations that provide scholarships. When I was running a program, that was something I was desperate for all the time. You're always trying to help people that you're always trying to find ways to help them by sort of using your resources, but sometimes they just have to be in the hospital. And that is expensive. And as a friend of mine who's a social worker and the ER said to me one time,

hey man people that are into drugs aren't necessarily into insurance and i thought oh yeah that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's kind of where that rubber hits the road so they do they do rely on the kindness of strangers so congratulations for doing that and where do you exactly should people go where do you want them to go to aiminghyfoundation dot work they could buy ticket to the event there but we're also going to be planning one the early part of 27 in los angeles hopefully it'll be available. I know you were so amazing to host my 50th birthday party and announce the launch of the foundation. And we're probably going to be giving another one. I believe in Miami, mid to late November. I don't have the date gap because it's so needed. And the fact that I've got

the resources and the friends and the people out there, there's not a single listener that you have, as you know, that doesn't know somebody's suffering with the disease of addiction or mental health. It's time to remove this stigma. They don't. Go ahead. The stigma, it's more of a bias than a stigma. I'm telling you, people that want to get well, want to get well, they don't care how. They'll let's go, let's do it.

And so it's just they need to know how and they need to be willing and that's that. And people need to, and people around those people need to go to Al-Anon and do their codependency work. Because that has the highest probability of getting the identified person into the program. Thanks, Darren. We'll talk soon. You got it. All right. Let us look at what's coming up here.

We got kind of a funky schedule coming here. We are going to be away, as you heard Kat and I talking about. I mean, Kaplan, when we get back from Broken Science, Romigold Gendro comes back in to talk about long COVID. Mike Catherwood from Old Loveland Days, Kelly Victory, coming back around with Jessica Rose, Peter Galulius, a lot here. Jessica Rose has been on fire on X lately. Shelly Spray, speaking of recovery with, is that Bob?

Yeah, Bob. is going to come in there. And then Salty Cracker may coming back around with us. Let me quickly look at what's going on with you guys in the Restream. Why don't I use the word clean when referring drugs and alcohol?

Because a lot of people, I suppose, we used to use that term a lot. I have nothing against it. But a lot of people used to talk about being clean and they really just were abstinent. And they were ready for the next use. They were not in the program. They were not healing.

They were not getting well. And so I think that may have been why I stopped using the word clean so much, but the clean is fine. They used to always say clean and sober. Again, I guess I don't say sober that much either because the term gets so adulterated by people who are not in the program. And sobriety is a certain thing. So I just use recovery.

Are you in recovery or aren't you? And that, you know, it's up to you whether you are or you're not. There's some gratitude in here. Thank you all as well. people saying thank you for this program, Susan. Thank you for booking this, Emily. Yeah. Let's see what you guys are saying on the Rumble Rants.

Can't quite see everybody. Here, let me see if I can scroll this thing up. There we go. You guys were very active today. What does it mean when it's in pink like that, Susan? I know what that means. They're the premium people. Ah, got it.

Okay. have ads and I think Casey Gates bought it for everybody. Memberships. God, that's why I want to turn. Casey Gates. Thank you, Casey. Well done. Okay. Well, thank you all for being here today. We thank our guest. Thank Kat for stopping by. I'm having a hard time talking today because I'm sick. Susan's been sick and yet we're going to go on this destination wedding and spend a few days

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