Ask Dr. Drew - FDA Fast Tracks Self-Amplifying mRNA for Bird Flu… Where Is MAHA? w/ Jack Posobiec & Chef Gruel – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 476

Episode Date: April 18, 2025

President Trump is not immune to criticism from MAHA supporters who voted for him at the behest of Robert F. Kennedy Jr – especially when it comes to mRNA. Though RFK is delivering on promises to investigate the causes of autism and remove fluoride from public water, Trump’s FDA just granted “fast track designation” for a potential bird flu vaccine – a self-amplifying, ‘next-generation’ mRNA in phase 1 clinical trials. Why is Trump so attached to developing mRNA when an enormous number of his voters are against it? Jack Posobiec is a Senior Editor at Human Events and a veteran Navy Intelligence Officer. He authored Bullet Proof: The Truth about the Assassination Attempts on Donald Trump and co-authored Unhumans: The Secret History of Communist Revolutions. More at https://x.com/JackPosobiec and https://humanevents.com Andrew Gruel is a food entrepreneur, small business advocate, and newly sworn-in City Council Member in Huntington Beach, CA. He is the CEO and founder of American Gravy Restaurant Group. During Covid lockdowns, he and his wife raised a million dollars for restaurant workers. More at https://x.com/chefgruel and https://chefgruel.com 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 Find out more about the brands that make this show possible and get special discounts on Dr. Drew's favorite products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors  • ACTIVE SKIN REPAIR - Repair skin faster with more of the molecule your body creates naturally! Hypochlorous (HOCl) is produced by white blood cells to support healing – and no sting. Get 20% off at https://drdrew.com/skinrepair • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at https://drdrew.com/fatty15 • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

But why are we? We've got a lot to get into today Jack posh obaic joins. He really needs no introduction But poso is obviously one of the more popular commentators out there. You can find his books He's senior editor human events veteran Navy intelligence officer bulletproof is the book The other book was on humans both both of which we will discuss. Bulletproof, which you see up there, is the truth about the assassination attempts on Donald Trump. And then Andrew Grohl will join us after a little while.

He, of course, a food entrepreneur. You see him regularly on Gutfeld. Now on City Council in Huntington Beach, CEO and founder of American Gravy Restaurant Group, and really we'll talk about his wonderful food, and he's working with the wellness company, and he has a book there with the brave group. And at the, I mean, make sure I'm getting that correctly.

Yes. And after we speak with them, I'm going to speak to Angela Alvarez, we're going to talk a little bit about grieving parents and organizations to support that after this. Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre. Psychopaths start this way. after this. You go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals, but just deal with what's real. And we used to get these calls on Loveline all the time. Educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat. You have trouble, you can't stop,

and you might help stop it. I can help. I got a lot to say. I got a lot more to say. I recently learned about a great product line formulated using a novel scientific breakthrough. It is called Active Skin Repair and my whole family uses it and loves it, including our new granddaughter. Actually, her parents were using it for diaper rash and other skin irritations before we

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Dr. Drew, so great to see you again. And by the way, just a wonderful time I had with you at the White House not too long ago for the podcast Grow that we did. It was fun. I want to get your thoughts about all that. Any standout moments for you? Well, really, I think the standout for me personally

was Secretary Besant and sitting with the Secretary of the Treasury. Now, this was just a few days before the Liberation Day and the tariff movement really took off with President Trump just a few days later. So we were talking more about the mineral deal that had been the subject of a lot of negotiations between the US and Ukraine vis-à-vis the Ukraine-Russia war. And I had actually traveled with Secretary Besant to Ukraine to present the earliest draft of that mineral deal

to President Zelensky over in Kiev in the presidential complex there. We know that's really become something of a big football between the two countries, but it was really those ideas of understanding, I think, that the briefing that he was able to give my audience, and that's human events daily every day right here on X, 2 to 3 p.m. Eastern, by the way, that we were then much more informed, I think, than the mainstream media when the tariffs were rolled out a few days later, because hey, he's given us the inside track on exactly what the plan is.

The other thing I got him right after you, and by the way, I was trying to get Alina Albatross and she bolted right after she talked to you. So I don't know what went on there, but you scared her off. Bobby did the same thing to me. It's true. It's true. It was really fun.

It was really a great experience, a great opportunity, frankly, it was great to meet these people in person and poke at them a little bit. But I got Besant, I guess I'm being criticized for not mispronouncing his name. I guess the syllable, the first syllable is emphasized. Besant, is that correct? Am I getting it finally?

But in any event, he emphasized to me, I tried to talk to him a little about cost savings. He was like not interested. He goes, wouldn't it be great if we do have cost savings, but I'm going to be focused on deregulation. We've got to unravel the regulatory state. Did he say anything? He didn't give me any specifics.

Did he give you any? No, not on deregulation. We really focused on, like I said, the mineral deal, this Ukraine piece, and then on tariffs. Because for us, foreign policy is something we really cover a lot on human events, and we knew that the tariffs were going to be rolled out in a couple of days. That was the really big focus. And I think when it comes down to it, though, you're right that you can't look at what

we call this the great deal. And you can't take what Trump is doing on tariffs in a vacuum. You can't isolate it because it is being done in conjunction with lowering taxes, with lowering regulations, with flooding American energy back onto the world market, which lowers the price of oil and the price of energy writ large. So of course all of this is being done in conjunction. So rather than say, oh, this is only one element of things that are going on and try to analyze that in a vacuum,

that's not actually what the major economic program is that's being rolled out with Besant and others. And now Besant, as we see, has really taken the forefront on all of this. And to your point, it seems to me that tariffs generally have to be thought of as, I mean, I know he loves tariffs, the president loves tariffs, he loves the income that he could potentially get, however you want to argue where it comes from,

but that he's, it seems to be fundamentally, if not as, if not secondarily, but I think fundamentally a negotiating position. And so how else do you get these other countries to the table except by forcing the issue and bringing them saying, okay, you don't want to come to the table?

Great, it will cost you. Well, guess what? They come to the table then. There's skin in the game. Well, that's exactly right. And, you know, with various countries out there, you know, they may have things like I spent time at the American Chamber of Commerce in Shanghai. And I can tell you firsthand, it is very hard for any US company or any Western company

to break into the Chinese market. You know, even Hollywood for all the Hollywood blockbusters we hear about, you know, they say, oh, this movie is going to do well in the China market. Well, you know, even they have a strict limit on the amount of movies that are able to go into the Chinese market and the types of movies, I should say, that are approved for the Chinese market. So even something like as that is, you know, faces really high barriers. And so what President Trump and Besant and the team are doing is to say look

You may not call it a tariff, but all of these barriers to entry. It's it's much more elegant and much more simple to just say Reciprocal tariff we're gonna put this on and of course we always knew that that you know this we knew right out the bat On human events that this was going to be the high water mark That's your opening bid in the negotiation and then everything. And then everything that's been walked down since there has going to be, this is what Trump does, by the way, a lot of the time, these are to the deal type situations where he comes out with the big opening bid, and then everyone comes to the table and it gets negotiated down to exactly

what he wanted in the first place. And I think that's what's going on in the tariff situation. You put the heart of the deal up, that's really funny. As I was listening to the French combat on this, they were saying it's the art of the deal on a global scale. So is there anything, before I bring Chef Gruel in here, which I'm going to do in a second, anything worrying you, angering you,

what's got you in your crosshairs right now? Well, right now on the program, and people have seen this, and I've been tweeting a lot about it, we see a lot of support for this leftist violence and just criminal organizations in general writ large across the country, MS-13, Trendy, Aragua, and we've seen a huge political push to let these people either out of jail or reduce their bail, let them out like this horrible story down in Texas, you know, one kid stabs another kid, but all of a sudden he's let out on house arrest. Then you've got people like the Democrats running around saying, oh, this MS-13 member

is just a Maryland man and we've got to bring him back into the country. And I've never seen politicians fight so hard for a U.S. citizen as they have for this illegal alien. And this kind of goes and you put that on top of this in in Pennsylvania you know got a guy who's certainly a political rival of mine the current governor uh Josh Shapiro who is a democrat yet of course he faced a fire bombing using molotov cocktails of the Pennsylvania governor's mansion beautiful mansion by the way um and this guy turns out is a registered socialist and has been someone who supports BLM and a variety of these

far left causes. And so what I'm noticing is this is something that we talked about in our book, Unhumans, The Secret History of Communist Revolutions and How to Crush Them. Of course, Luigi Maggioni as well, which you and I have discussed, is the rise of leftist violence and the coddling of it by places like CNN, places like Netflix, it always tends to be the snake eating its own tail. It's the Ouroboros. And now all of a sudden you're starting to see mainstream Democrats become the targets of it as well, along with the Tesla dealerships.

And a guy was arrested for making threats on DNI Tulsi Gabbard, who herself was a true Democrat her entire life, by the way. This is something that's become a huge problem and I'm just not seeing all politicians, this should be something that everybody in all politics stands against, no violence, 100%. You have problems, we're gonna deal with it at the ballot box.

I don't like Governor Josh Shapiro. I've never once said I condone or would even interested in any kind of violence against him. I'll beat him at the ballot box. I don't like Governor Josh Shapiro. I've never once said I condone or would even interested in any kind of violence against him. I'll beat him at the ballot box. We can win that way. And I would hope that it's something that all people from whatever side of the aisle you might hail from can stand against.

It's grievance, but it's delusion. I had that, I don't know if you saw that video with Made the Rounds again with Taylor Lorenz and talking about her waxing poetic about the moral man that Luigi Mangione is. That's exactly what I was referring to, yes. Yeah, I know. And it was, it's delusional.

That is, when she wakes up from this, she's gonna go, what was I thinking? This is a disturbed state that people are in. Hybristophilia, is that right? And she, hybristophilia, I taught you that one. That is the, but this is, it's gone a little further, I think. Hybristophilia is the love of criminals.

But it's gone a little further where I saw her, I mean, she looked like she was in an altered state waxing about narrative, but she was really talking about myth. So I'm like, she was living in a mythical world. Yes, it is disconnected from reality I've learned more about this kid. Look, he was not interested in health care. He had a he was delusional himself He was paranoid you'd probably had a manic psychosis and he was focused on Corporate greed and health care was a convenient sort of way of, you know, putting something

to put in his crosshairs. But it's not about healthcare. Yes, we're all frustrated with the healthcare system. He's not a moral person. He's not a well person. And you're thinking, Ms. Lorenz, is delusional. So it's grievance meets delusion. That's how we're getting into real trouble. And the fact that no one, that's the actual video there. Maybe I'll play it a little bit later. But the fact that we don, that's the actual video there, maybe I'll play it a little bit later. But the fact that we don't, look, when people become delusional, you have to treat them like a patient.

You don't treat them like a rational person because in the nature of delusion is the lack of rationality. They can't be reasoned with. You gotta go, stop it, stop, move along, let's go. Here we go. We're not gonna tolerate that, and that's it. I couldn't agree more.

We talk about this in our book, we wrote the entire book about this, that this thing was on the rise, that this pathology was on the rise, a cluster of pathologies, if you will, that are completely on the rise, that some start in politics, but always have to do with grievance.

And the main theme of the entire book is that none of this has to do with justice. None of this has to do with actual equity or equality or reform of society. It is all rooted in resentment, jealousy and envy, specifically in envy, which of course you and I talk about pretty much every time I've been on here. One thousand percent. It's time to bring Chef Andrew Gruehl into this conversation.

Andrew Gruehl, you know C.M. Hunt-Gutfeld. Let's get him in there. He was... Andrew, I want you to tell us about where we can see your podcast, your stream or I don't technically what I guess podcast with your wife that you very kindly had me on where I watched you work some of your magic. I appreciate that. Well, I don't know what to call it actually, just a bunch of people having fun in the kitchen. It is on rumble at American gravy. I am on YouTube, but primarily on X as well at American Gravy. And we'll

have a few more outlets we'll be announcing here in the next month or so. Appreciate you having me on, especially on the heels of talking about envy. I was very envious about that wonderful conversation. Well, now I brought it. So I figured I felt you. I felt you before you came after us. And then you guys started expressing you in here. But there was something else I want to ask you. Oh, how does it feel? I don't know if you know, Jack, but Mr. Grul is working in government now. Councilman Grul, I guess we should call you. I saw that we were graced by an actual elected official here. Let's hold his feet to the

fire guys. Yeah. Well, it's been interesting. I always say if you want to understand politics and you want to get an MBA in politics, start on a city level and city council. It was pitched to me as a few meetings a month. I'm probably up to meeting number 100 right now, but I genuinely love it. It is fascinating. Understanding city politics, the general plan, the strategic plan. I also get about 50 emails a day about potholes and speed bumps and left-hand turns that should be put in place. So it's the granular stuff and the broad stuff. But the city of Huntington Beach right now is multiple lawsuits against the

state of California for their overreach. We're a charter city. So many of the things that are trying to force down upon us are elite, not just illegal. I mean, it's unconstitutional. More recently, Measure A, which is our voter ID that was passed unanimously here in the city of Huntington Beach by voter and obviously city council. We were sued by the state of California and then because they said we couldn't do that by state law, but we're a chartered city and we recently won that lawsuit. So Huntington Beach being a 7-0 majority is going to set the stage for many other cities in California and hopefully around the country where we can fight this craziness and show that you can do it on a local level. So that's really important.

It is craziness and the fact that more cities aren't fighting back. I just, everyone feels sort of helpless. I noticed recently, Jack, that we are sort of around the world, I'm hearing people talk about government's money being their money. It's my money, my tax money that they're misappropriating or using so casually.

I've not heard that in a long, long time, like since maybe the 60s or 70s. It's almost like we forgot that the government is funded by the people meant to represent the people. It's been, when you hear it, it sounds odd that we've not been talking that way up until this point. Well, I do think it's odd, but you know, it's also, I think, part and parcel of Elon Musk.

You know, I've got to give him credit for this in, you know, people know Elon from the Teslas, they know him for SpaceX, but he's decided to wear this new hat of Doge and say, look, we actually should keep an eye on where our money is going. What is happening with the taxpayer dollars? Because this is part and parcel of everything that we've been talking about making government more efficient, even on the city level, like Chef Grule is saying, making government less

wasteful on the national level, the local level, every level. These are things that you can have doge on any level of government. They're doing in Tulsi Gabbard is doing in the Intel community now with her new group of dig, which also is, of course, going to be doing to classifications and transparency. But the idea of looking at government as not just the government's money, but an understanding, a fundamental understanding of this is money that has been taken out of the public sector. It's actually the private sector, but you know, really based on the public's economic

activity and by the way, based on leveraging future public activity, future private economic activity in terms of leveraging the borrowing that goes on from our government and including by the way, the spending of the Federal Reserve. Guess what? It was never the government's money. It's always been your money. So people are taking it, I think, through the Trump movement. And even, by the way, if you're not a fan of Trump, it has made people more civic minded

with an understanding of, hey, this is our money. What are we going to do with it? And how should we be spending it yeah and I think that's an improvement I don't think I'm speaking out of school to tell everyone that chef cruel is joining us at the wellness company we're gonna start getting into food and food sourcing speaking of the government why chefhl has it been in the interest of government to help screw up the food supply and give us lots of, what RFK calls them, food-like substances

rather than real food? Well, they're taking the food out of food and they're replacing it with chemicals. I think you and I have talked about this previously in the past, but why is it in the government's best interest to do so? Well, it all comes down to money, right? It all comes down to kind of fiat.

It comes down to the reserve and the fact that over the years, the government has inflated our currency so much and they have misappropriated so many of our dollars and pumped so much money into the economy that the primary area in which people can actually understand how little our money is worth is through food because it's really the breadbasket, right? And actually, interestingly, in a lot of the indices over the years, they've removed food from that kind of breadbasket, the means by which they measure the value of our dollar.

So as they make our food cheaper and cheaper, they're artificially giving us the impression that our dollar is worth more than it really is. It is in their best interest to do so, otherwise there would be mass revolutions. Revolutions around the world has all come back to food. We've seen it because people can't buy food, right? The basic sustenance. So the idea is we create this massive conglomeration at the top, this merging of government and private business creating kind of, well, really it's fascism, right? And we tell them what they can put

in our food. We remove all the nutrients, make it cheaper and the cheaper it is then there's the general appearance That things are still affordable in the United States so we can print all this money on the other side and they won't realize It's interesting it makes me think about so many of the other aspects some of the other sort of Deliriums that we're into these days. You know, I worry, I feel like a lot of things are kind of coming clear for people that COVID sort of exposed a lot. Like we should be questioning everything, frankly.

And I've seen people recently starting to question even climate dogma. And I thought to myself, you know, Jack, I don't know if you're aware, but I was in the ecology movement of the early 70s. I was deep in it and I was a scientist looking at it. And I had come to the conclusion, speaking of food, that we were going to have massive famine. There was no way to avoid it. That acid rain was gonna destroy the Northeast,

that our rivers and lakes were gone forever, that oil, we had maybe 20 years, we had to prepare for that, and there was going to be a global ice age. And anyone who questioned us was just ignorant. They didn't know the science. They were just plain old ignorant, and we were adamant about our certitude.

And I've decided I'm a time traveler, Jack. I'm coming from another time. I'm coming into the present to help people understand the fact that there is no certitude to anything, that these ideas come and go, particularly science, it moves, it morphs, it changes, it's a dialectic always going on. But that I come to you from the original climate movement

and I was as certain and as dogmatic as any climate scientist today, and I was freaking wrong. And it's giving me a flexibility in looking at today's issues. How do we get people to understand or to listen to us time travelers, Jack? Well, can I ask maybe,

and maybe this is informative for the audience, you know, what was it that kind of woke you up personally from that, you know, initial movement? I mean, was it just that time continued and the predictions didn't meet what you had thought? Or was there anything that, you know, something that happened where you really kind of set back and said, wait a minute,

this isn't comporting at all. There were two things, which was one was genetic food modifications. All of a sudden, everything we predicted about how, this is why I'm bringing, I want to gruel to talk about this in a second. And whatever you feel about genetic modifications of food, it prevented the famines.

Overnight, the famine issue went away with what happened at Caltech essentially in the botany department. And all of a sudden you could raise wheat in low, high, hot, no rain environments. And it changed everything overnight, okay? The famine went away, number one. Number two, we found a million other sources of oil,

which we were convinced there was nothing. So there was more time to develop other things that we never imagined. So it was those two things that happened, I watched them happen in real time and these imminent concerns, that was our thing, it was happening, it was on our doorstep. I thought, oh no, people adapt and figure things out.

And when there are slow moving crises underway, humans have an extraordinary ability to come to terms with it and to adjust. So that was my experience, Jack. I love, yeah, that's the Scott Adams law of slow moving crises. I love that one. That's exactly where it came from.

But Andrew, so what do I do with the genetic food issue? That's why I've been sort of agnostic about GMOs because I've been like, I watched it do something pretty good. I don't know what to do with it now. Yeah, the GMO movement that did start in the 60s and the 70s has obviously been credited for stopping famine, just like you just described right now. However, what happens with new technologies always in the form of a government manipulation becomes the curse that it was intended to avoid because GMOs went from just really creating a system in which we can grow some more of these commodity

crops to let's continue to genetically modify, let's patent that modification, let's give a handful of corporations the ability to work hand in glove with the government behind closed doors to continue to manipulate the food supply and manipulate the food supply in a manner in which we give power to a small handful or cadre of people, right? So look at what's happened with Monsanto, look at what's what happened with a lot of these patented modifications on our crops and fertilizers, et cetera, which have once again, consolidated the hands of our food system, agricultural terrestrial, all across the board into a few big corporations and have made, has made the food less healthy.

It's ruined the soil. There's been all these unintended consequences. So it's the same idea. But it's interesting to me that my experience as a physician is the same as you as a chef, which is centralization of authority. It has a horrible effect. You need to distribute authority out to where the food is produced,

out to where the doctors are produced, out to where the doctors are taking care of patients. And it's the same thing, isn't it, in food? Yeah. You have something good and then the government gets involved and it turns into something bad. It's the same old formula over and over again. That calculus could be repeated in every single industry, every single conversation.

I like talking about it through food because that's approachable and people understand it as opposed to a lot of the obfuscation that we see in other areas of the government. But now look right now, right? Geoengineering, we're seeing a lot about cloud seeding and these chemtrails, et cetera. Let's put the chemtrails aside. Let's just talk about geoengineering in general and manipulating the environment, the air above us. That is a fact.

That is a proven fact. And so much of it hasn't been studied. And yet the government kind of controls those mechanisms by which they're engineering the ecosystem. And what's the long term effect of that going to be? Some of it is said to be good right now, just like it could have been with GMOs in the 60s and 70s. But now fast forward five decades, and what do we have going on? Really so interesting. Are you aware of this new, I wanna talk a little maja to both you guys for a few minutes.

And I guess there was, I wonder if RFK was a part of this fast tracking of a new mRNA vaccine for of all things, bird flu. It's being called self-amplifying next generation. It's only in phase one trials. I have not seen it yet. There's the The headline for it. I Again phase one is the very very very beginning of the process So I have no problem with a phase one trial what I'm worried about is

That we're going moving towards panic and moving towards centralized vaccine distribution all these things again There have been a couple dozen, a few dozen cases of the H5N1 and there's certain sub variants that have been more serious than others. We're seeing no big distribution of it. Although, Andrew, I think your wife got conjunctivitis. So I thought maybe she,

is she hanging around the birds a lot? I didn't want to say anything out loud, but is it Lauren's conjunctivitis. So I thought maybe she, she hanging around the birds a lot. I didn't want to say anything out loud, but is that, is it Lauren's conjunctivitis go away or does she have bird flu? Now it seems like she's got this long-term dry eye situation. I think she's been hanging out with the chickens at night, but we can talk about that behind closed doors. So listen, you guys,

she announces her medical problems on X all the time. You guys should call me when you have questions. I know a lot about dry eye. Trust me, trust me a lot. So let me help her. I gave her one drop recommendation on X and oh great, this is great. I got other ideas.

She should, both should call me. But Jack on sort of that same issue of Maha, I don't know, I have great faith in Bobby Kennedy's ability to handle, dismantle, figure out adulterating influences in very big complicated systems. But people seem to be getting worried that he's losing control or he doesn't have his eye on the target quite the way he should.

My personal position is give the guy a break. He's just got in there. It's only a few months in. What are your thoughts? Well, I think that's right as well. Look, Maha is, and this is what I always tell people, especially in the political world, is that people say MAGA is, there's an NBC poll

that came out, they said MAGA is, it's getting more popular never etc okay fine maha is actually the most popular movement in America today it's maha this is something that crosses party lines it's something that's non-political you don't need to be a Trump supporter to be a maha supporter it's something by the way that started you know quote-unquote on the left it was the liberals who are sort of the you know the crunchy the crunchy types, the environmentalists, the ones who are worried about what's going into our food, what's going into our bodies in terms

of medications. Then it through COVID, it sort of went through this process where it migrated along with RFK himself, by the way, sort of being the avatar of this and now has migrated to a position where there's all sorts of people who are supporting Maha. When I go to these various events, you know, I see people from all different walks of life, all different backgrounds, all different political inclinations, but everyone has a specific interest in making America more healthy. Now, look, when you're getting into the federal government, and I've seen this with the Trump administration everywhere, I've been more focused on Intel, more focused on defense, foreign policy,

but you have to understand that when these people come in at the very top, the secretaries, the cabinet level people, or the department level people, if you've got FDA or NIH, so Dr. Marquet or Jay Bhattacharya, so you have situations where you may have a small leadership team there, but the entire administration and the entire agency are still being run by the same people day in, day out that have

always been there. Doge, of course, has been playing a role in this at a few places like USAID. And so the idea that you're just going to stop everything writ large or immediately turn everything off overnight,'s it just takes time these are massive absolute behemoths of federal bureaucracies of the department of defense by the way is one of the largest employers in the entire government so that the uh... eight eight eight s by the way is right behind it as one of the largest employers out there so i think it's something where

people have to understand there's a lot on his plate of that being said when it comes to the FDA and fast tracking this, you know, I believe that's, um, that that's the lunar H five N one that it's out of Arcturus therapeutics and the lunar was the delivery system, this, um, you know, drug delivery system targeting cells for the MRNA. And now this, we remember the lunar COVID-19 was one that people had a lot of questions about and specifically the way it was being delivered

into the cells and what it was doing to those cells. So it seems like, I wonder if they're using that same delivery system again for the mRNA vaccine, which obviously they say is a way to make it faster. But of course the question everyone's going to have is, are you doing the tests? And we know that this is something that RFK, Bobby Kennedy has said over and over,

the Secretary of Health, that it's not about, for him, it's not about saying we're anti-vaccine, it's making sure that we're getting the proper testing. Yes, it is the Lunar mRNA platform. Yeah, it's odd. It's odd. I continue to say the same thing about the vaccines that we have these whole viral alternatives.

We could, if you want to stay with mRNA, you could come up with maybe a nuclear capsid version of it. But we continue to push back to COVID, vaccines that produce unregulated amounts of spike protein. And we know the spike is the pathogenic component of the virus, the oddest thing in the world that we don't back away from that. It's just so, it's just, and we're seeing,

I don't know if, Ram Yogendra, Susan, his paper got picked up for publication. Finally. Finally, they were getting all sorts of resistance to it for years because it shows long facts, long vaccine and the mechanism for it. Thank God we can start to talk about maybe some interventions from my peers and friends and patients that have long facts,

which is not that uncommon. At the same time, we're able to finally ask questions about autism, I guess. I mean, I just, why has it gone from one to 115 to one to 30 into one to 30 in the last 20 years? Just the question, just the scientific question. Either of you have any, Andrew, you're shaking your head yes. Any thoughts about that?

Just a mere question itself should not be a catalyst for backlash and being called a conspiracy theorist. This is what I see out of maha, right? Everybody kind of has their own definition. Some are very, very specific. Some are kind of really granular. In my case, it's a bit more nuanced. I think from a much grander perspective in the sense that,

number one, we're talking about all this. That's key. Number two, the information is transparent. I don't believe we're going to get into a world where we completely flip the government upside down and we're able to shake out big pharma and all the corporate interests that's already stitched into the framework of the government.

Instead, I believe that it's going to be a one or two or three step process. We got to stew the meat. We can't boil it. So what I see happening right now is that the media is trying to create conflict within the Maha Manga movement because it scares them because as Jack said, it's one of the most powerful political movements we've seen in probably a hundred years. And in what they're doing though, is they're telling on themselves because now we're in this stage one piece of the conversation and we're all talking about it and now it's under this microscope. People are going to be loud about it.

And it's my goal here to get people to understand it so that if anything, if this thing does start to get pushed through that there's labeling and there's no mandates, there's full transparency on this from the food all the way through that supply chain. And that in and of itself is a bigger success from what we saw in the previous administration. So to that point I give it two thumbs up. Yeah, I completely agree with you. I that the the mandate is the bioethical problem. Uh, andrew i'm gonna let you go jack. Can I keep you an extra five minutes? I want to get an intelligence primer from you if you don't mind.

You know, we go always always be ready to. Be gone. That's our. Andrew before I. I have to take a little break, too. But Andrew, before I let you go, what are your plans for TWC? What do you see as some of our brand sweeping goals there that we can accomplish? Are you allowed to talk about it yet? I assume we are. Yeah. I mean, already wellness farms, which is the arm of kind of the wellness company that's going to be focusing on food

We're bringing together a really great portfolio of products from great local beef to eggs chicken to up a yard Sorry poultry and then some perishables as well as talking about Freeze-dried and prepared meals seed free, all this is going to be accessible to directly to the consumer. So once again, flipping that supply chain upside down and creating that direct to consumer conduit so that we can start getting the right foods and getting it outside of this kind of complicated supply chain. I also find it very funny that whenever you start talking about intelligence, I always have to leave the room. It's been that way my whole life. I didn't want it to be so obvious, but maybe I should say rather than intelligence, I should

say the intelligence community or the excesses of intelligence. There we go. All right. I've taken a quick break. Thanks for having me on. We'll go back with more Posavik. You bet it. Good to see you.

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at two o'clock Pacific? I mean, rather Eastern? That's right. We are two o'clock Eastern. So we are two to three Eastern. So that'd be 11 to one, or just use it to be 11 to noon Pacific. And we're actually live coast to coast

on the Salem radio network as well. Really excited to partner with them there. Picked up the third hour of the Charlie Kirk program. And it's just been a really great partnership to be on. We're also of course on X everyday. So people can check that out of course live And yes, the book is on humans and then the podcast is just human events daily if you ever miss it live You just always get it there Grievance grievance grievance envy, you know, we'll keep talking about that until this all settles down which I hope to God one day it does

So it's a wrap things up here. Tell us something disturbing Susan wants to be upset when she finishes this conversation. So tell us something you're worried about with the intelligence community. I saw Mike Benz do a big three hour expose. I think it was yesterday. And to me, it feels like more of the same, more of the same, but are there some

extraordinary landmines out there waiting to go off? Well, certainly what I would say though is, the big one that we do have to watch out for is, if you're looking in terms of foreign policy, I mean, you've got situations where, I mean, they just stopped this massive load of explosives going from Poland into Belarus. It was a record, a record setting, uh, uh,

fall, I guess, of these explosives, you know, another potential flare up of the Ukraine, Russia war potential, you know, potential for false flag attacks and potential for even terroristic style attacks, assassinations going on over there. So as we, as we wind down things and the peace plan go the peace process get started vis-a-vis Russia Also, by the way with Iran and this talk of denuclearization and shutting down the programs We also have to understand that there are hardliners in all of these countries including ours By the way, including the United States that don't want peace to happen. So how would that express itself? Well, it would express itself with lethal attacks, with violence that is blamed potentially on opponents.

It would express itself with the striking down of patriots who have gone into some of these positions like the USAID or the Department of Defense and others. And you have, look, there are billions and billions of dollars on the line in terms of the military industrial complex the same way by the way that big pharma gets billions and billions of dollars from their contracts as well and so for people to think that all of this is going to just be wound down whether

it's maha whether it's MAGA whether it's anti-war just understand that you are going up against absolutely billions of dollars. And of course, Secretary Bessen, as we were talking earlier, saw the exact same thing on the economic front. And so people need to understand that in these situations, particularly when it comes to war, things can always get very lethal very quickly. Other than keeping an eye on this, is there something that an average citizen can do? Well, I think for the average citizen,

you know, you want to make sure that everything in your family is prepared, that your family is prepared for anything that might happen, any shocks, anything that, you know, God forbid something happens to the electrical grid in a place where you live, God forbid, something were to happen with any of these situations, like communications go down, or suddenly the supply chains go down, by the way, which we saw during COVID.

This was a huge, huge issue where suddenly we weren't getting all of our products from China. So that includes medicine, that includes food, that includes basic survivability for your family. And I think, you know, people used to, they used to laugh and they say, oh, you preppers, you know, that was, you know, one of those reality shows for a while. But I think all of the preppers, you know, COVID showed that those guys were absolutely spot on,

that our supply chains are absolutely creaky. And any of these issues that goes on in the geopolitical world can all of a sudden affect whether or not supplies are on your shelves at your local supermarket or your local pharmacy, which by the way, thanks to COVID, most supermarkets are our local pharmacies now and the shutting down of Walgreens and CVSs and all the rest of it. And so this is really something where, you know, it just pays to think ahead to say, what do you need?

What's the size of your family? You wanna have, you know, maybe a one month stockpile of just various basic essentials, whether it's medicine, whether it's food. So you don't have to worry should something else happen again. Jack, appreciate you being here as always. You know, Susan's got upset now. Yeah, you being here as always.

Susan's got upset now. Yeah, you follow Jack on Xjack. She asked, all right. Oh yeah, she pulled out the. And your Haleo Valley bone broth. All right, so we keep, we work with the wellness company, which is about getting medication kits available for exactly what you're talking about.

This is the Contagion Emergency Kit. And then we keep lots of bone broth. exactly what you're talking about. plague was coming and there's no doubt in my mind. There was going to be a bomb or something. Oh, anthrax for a minute. We had anthrax for a second. We had the contagion kit for that. Yeah, we also had the Fukushima nuclear thing that was, we were expecting some. You need to have like codeine and, and, and.

Oh, Susan's worried about getting high when things go really bad Jack. So that was going to get into the mercury, which is going to affect the tuna if I remember correctly. That's right. That's right. And wemen that was going to get into the mercury, which is going to affect the tuna, if I remember correctly. That's right. That's right. And we have that big splice of iodine. Anyway, but you're right. And water, have a lot of water on hand. Yep, water.

Definitely. I have a lot and Drew is like, why do we have so much water? I go, I don't know. Cause maybe the neighborhood's going to burn down and they're going to tell us not to drink our water. So he did. Well, we were right by the fires here in Altadena.

No, he was there. That John's tapping. Yeah. And we were advised not to drink our water. So we did. We were right by the fires here in Altadena. That was just happening. Yeah, and we were advised not to drink the water. We went to bottle lonely for a while. So that was the advice. I'm draining my pool. So yeah, we had to get all the crap out of the swimming pool. It was a mess. So, but here we are still.

Jack, you also wrote a book with the brave group, right? Did you we had I have yeah, that's right. We did we did sort of a um, you know If you're if you're if you're worried about these, you know, we don't necessarily get into the envy side of it there But we do get into the idea that politicians will try to lie to you and promise you the world and promise you Utopia if you just give them power, but they don't actually have your best interests at heart. And so I wrote this book with Brave

called The Island of Free Ice Cream. And of course it's The Island of Free Ice Cream, which of course is run by a pack of wolves. And it's a great way to have these conversations with your kids and start having those conversations. I think maybe we ought gotta have that with adults. So any concern before I let you go about the new real ID, I didn't quite get the controversy around that.

I have real ID, we fly all the times we had to have it. But, you know, look, they've got us a million ways. Is this a new thing we should be concerned about? Well, the thing that I've you know, look, they've got us a million ways. Is there, is this a new thing we should be concerned about? Well, the way I, the thing that I've said is, you know, and I'm sick of the government demanding that I need some new ID every couple of years. You know, this is something where it's just absolutely a joke, but you know, something that we said

from the political perspective is, you know, I look at my friends on the Democrat side of the aisle and I say, wait a minute, you know, you guys are all in on real ID. You totally support this. You say everyone's got to get one. The Biden administration put them up in every airport. I guess my passport is also a real ID, but my driver's license isn't a real ID trying to figure this all out. But whenever it comes to voter ID,

suddenly the save act, you know, that's, that's the, you know, that's the apocalypse that's processually for, you know, that's the apocalypse that's especially for women and minorities. And every Democrat comes and tells me that I'm depriving people of their rights and I'm taking everything away from everyone and there's no way apparently for women or minorities to be able to get a voter ID, yet everyone is forced to get a real ID at the exact same time. And to me, clearly that's just an example of them trying to prevent our elections from having any serious integrity behind them, which is obviously something

that I've championed for years, which again should not be a partisan issue. And the ironic lunacy of our government. Yeah, we in California, Caleb, we we had to have real idea in California already. So we're all real ID'd out here And have been for a while. All right, Jack Again, give us where the program can be Rumble amongst other things going to the DMV. Yeah, we're on rumble. We're on X, we're on YouTube. It is two to three PM Eastern, so 11 to noon Pacific. The show is Human Events Daily.

You can get it on the podcast as well. All right, my friend, we'll see you soon. And it's amazing. Yes, it is. And where's your guy? He's really good at this, so. And Susan has decided Jack is going to be the next big something. Ryan Seacrest. Ryan Seacrest. He's going to have the Ryan Seacrest effect one day. Ryan Seacrest. Susan is pretty good at picking, so. And Susan has decided Jack is gonna be the next big something. Ryan Seacrest.

Ryan Seacrest. He's gonna have the Ryan Seacrest effect one day. Ryan Seacrest. Susan is pretty good at picking that stuff. Yeah, well she's pretty good at picking that stuff, Jack. You're going to be big. Okay, all right. I feel it.

She, she, she. So take all the jobs. I will tell you where I learned not to question her instinct on these things. We were watching in the 90s, we were sitting there watching in living color. We were watching in the 90s, we were sitting there watching in living color. We were watching in living color. And she goes, oh my God, that goofy white guy

is going to be a huge star. And I went, that guy is some fireman? Yes, it was Jim Carrey. But at the time it was like, he was just some wacky improv guy. It was like, why would you say that guy's gonna be? I was like, I was like, come on, you gotta be kidding. That guy, there are all these talented people,

why do you pick that guy? I also met Ryan Seacrest his first year on American Idol and I told, he looked at me, he was like, I can't believe I have this job and I said, just be professional Ryan, you know, do your job. Don't goof off like a stupid disc jockey. And I swear to God, he, every time I see him, it gives me a big hug, but I- Jack, that was a sideways message for you, my friend. Don't goof off like a stupid disc jockey. Every time I see him, he gives me a big hug.

I do goof off a lot. Good to see you. We are going to, that's what I was, I was the one that was late today, which I've never been before. Almost late. I got you here though. All right, we are going to really switch gears here. Now, thankfully to our,

this is thanks to our friends at Hillside, which is an organization that we've supported for years. They are- 30 years. God, it's been a long time. I know, we're getting old. They are one of the premier or models, I would say, for therapeutic living environments

and educational environments for young people at risk, particularly those that have come from abuse, people come out of the foster care system. If we only had 10,000 of these, we could literally solve the mental health problems in this country. But Hillside has brought us today, Angela Alvarez, and it's thanks to Hillside that she is here.

She has a very interesting story of her own. I will let her tell that story. But she has, because of that, she is committed to several causes. And we're gonna particularly focus on grief management, but I also wanna focus on homelessness too, if you'll permit me. So Angela, we appreciate you being here very much.

Tell us, perhaps we start with, you wanna start with your story or start with the organization? Well, I am so happy to have found Hills. And it was mostly because I am a grieving mother. This is my son, Jeremiah. Oh, he's lovely. My sweet son.

Met the world. Still does. So I attended some meetings with compassionate friends, which they have a worldwide following. There's chapters everywhere. Hand that to me so I can get a better picture of it. Because I think the light was doing weird stuff on it. Caleb, you can switch it, yes?

There we are, I still have trouble seeing it. This is chapter, or this organization is for grieving parents, and they support grandparents and siblings, and mostly we get together, we speak about our children, and it can be at times heartbreaking, ultimately uplifting. And what I got from it after being just in the dark for days and weeks and months, not knowing how to navigate

out of this pain of grief of losing my son, my only son, my child, was just to listen to other people. How did you do? Give me your experiences. And now I'm almost 10 years down the road. It'll be 10 June. So I love to talk to people and say, how did you, how did you make it? And they'll say, well, I started a foundation. I went to court and the murder of my daughter is in court. And it's very powerful. Everybody's grief is so different, yet it's universal.

So I'm so grateful that I found this. And I found a purpose in carrying on Jeremiah's legacy Because he was very concerned about underprivileged homeless people in particular Anytime he saw anyone on the street even as a little boy. He was mom mom give him some money And then when he got older it was all his money. He would give the shirt off his back and So this I think, just kind of came to me by the virtue of being among friends, right? That share, that go down my road. So I thought I can help with homeless people. I can, I have donated to LA on Cloud

9 and LA food, regional food banks. And there's just so many, there's such a need, Dr. Do, you know that. And Susan, you know that in living in Los Angeles and around the world, around this country anyway, the state, there's so much need. And I'm currently taking care of Jeremiah's father, my ex-husband, and he was homeless. And to take care of one person is so much.

I took him to the Department of Social Services, the DMV, to get an ID and go to Social Security. I mean, we've done multiple things. Just getting him back on his feet is so difficult. That's one person. There are so many people on the streets. So you know that we have all these different initiatives and laws and not laws, but things that we put on the ballot

and we give our money to it, but where does it go? No, it goes down to, look, the Department of Justice, having looked into it, it's wasted so badly. And to your point, I'm guessing this is addiction, yes? Yes, my husband, yes. I know how to deal with it. It's not as, doing it by yourself is impossible. But if you have a team of people, it is not that hard.

It's quite doable. But you have to be able to take people to Hanukkah, come with me. I've got something for you, let's go, let's do this. Here we go. And you can't say it's okay to keep doing drugs. It's not okay to lie down on the sidewalk. They will die if you do that.

They will die. It is negligent homicide. And you see what's required. One, I would never attempt to treat an addict alone, ever. You have to have a team of people. So you're taking on a lot. He's clean now. He's under my roof and he is absolutely clean.

But you see the effort you have to make. And there's still more to be done. I'll try to help you with that. But believe me, that's why there are 12-step programs and things like that, because you can't, a single practitioner can't do it alone. You need communities of people, teams. Much the way you needed it when you were dealing with grief.

It's very, it's different but similar in terms of the need of other people. Lots of other people. Many, so many people. So what do you see as the first step? Is it just getting us? We gotta change the laws. So doctors like me can help them.

And there has to be just, you have to put forth, drug addicts will use until they die if you don't put forces in place to move them in the right direction. And when they do recover, they're like, why did you leave me on the street? What were you thinking? What was that all about?

You know, I was dying of drug addiction. You thought that was a good idea to just let you leave me on the street? What were you thinking? What was that all about? I was dying of drug addiction. You thought that was a good idea to just let me lie down on the sidewalk? That's inhuman. And so, yeah, I mean, I know exactly how to create programs and build programs and to do that. I did it for 30 years, and we had great, great success with it,

and we have more tools even now. We can make it even better. But you're not allowed to. Not allowed to. People in California, they take the position that your husband was living his best life on the street, doing it his way, man. Who are you to say?

Right. It's terrible, it's terrible. So tell me more about Jeremiah's, what is the actual formal, can people support it? Can people help you with it? Well, Jeremiah's, what's the name of it? Jeremiah's

Journey. Journey, Jeremiah's Journey is the name of the organization. Okay, can people help with it? Well, I- What's the name of it? Jeremiah's- Journey. Journey, Jeremiah's Journey is the name of the organization. Right. Okay, can people help with it? Sure. I don't have, I will set up a website.

I haven't done that yet. I'm just, I'm 10 years down the line. I've basically helped everyone else. And now I'm thinking, well, this is something I can do. And cause I know what it takes to help one person. So now I can go and help other people one by one. That's, I guess, how we do it. I'm learning.

You know, yes and no. It's complicated, yes. It definitely requires human to human contact. You can't do it on sort of from a distance. It's something you have to have hands on with, yeah, for sure. And I've been so fortunate to find groups like LA on Cloud 9 that we actually go on the streets

and we give toiletries and clothing and shoes and socks, everything to the people directly that are on the streets. And some want to be in a home and others do not. Most do not, because their brain isn't working right. When they wake up, they're like, would you let me do that? They all the same. It's like, what, you listened to me when I was in that condition?

Why did you listen to me? I was a drug addict. Right, right. So I guess when you think of tiny villages, those are very expensive to even build and then people don't want them in their backyard. So what do you say? Yeah, have you heard the Trieste Plan?

It's in Trieste, Italy, they built, there are people that know how to build residential programs. It's not, it's not. Rocket science. It's not that hard. But you have to just, you have to fund it and do it and then put people in it, you have to say. And there are places,

there are tons of them in Orange County right now. People don't even know they're there. Because guess what, these are now function community members that are part of their own little community also. But they're given vocational rehab and things so they go out and work. That's exactly what they need. Of course.

And physical therapy. And medical management, psychiatric management, ongoing 12 step, you know, it's daily, daily stuff. And you know, it's hard. What's the name of that, Dr. Dyrd? Trieste Plan, T-R-I-E-S-T-E. They were going to build one in West Hollywood, and then all of a sudden it went away.

I don't know why, but you know, people don't want to provide services for people with addiction. It's weird to me. It is weird. There's a stigma surrounding that. Anything that is a brain disease, we in this country sort of get weird about.

I mean, there's something called anasognosia, which is, and you've seen this no doubt, anasognosia is a neurological process that was a term that was coined at the beginning of the 20th century. And it's essentially a block in the insight. And all serious mental illness has that. You don't realize what's happening to you.

That's, there it is, a neurological condition which patients unaware of the neurologic deficit or psychiatric condition. That's it. And all serious, they don't, their thinking is all screwed up because of that. They don't see it, they don't know it. And so everything that they, with addiction,

it's all oriented towards using. And the anasognosia is not seeing what the consequences are of all that disturbed thinking. And we have privileged anasognosia and the law in California. We've said, if somebody's thinking that way, you gotta leave them alone. They're very bad.

Who are you to say? This is, people, I always say this, people think, first of all, they think psychiatric care is the same as it was in the past. It's very different. It's much more, it's lovely. But, and they will point at something like one flu over the cuckoo's nest.

And I will say two things about one flu over the cuckoo's nest. Let me have the camera back. Hey, no, no, my camera. Hey, hey, that was not a documentary. That was not a documentary about psychiatric hospital. Number one. Number two, that was written 75 freaking years ago. 75 years ago.

You don't think things are better and changed since then? They are. And they can be done very beautifully, very, very, really in ways that are humane and just and caretaking and not negligent homicide like we have going on right now. So thank you for doing the work for almost because they need it, need it, need it. They're just being, they're being part

of some sort of political something. I don't know why, it's hard to understand. It's terrible. Yeah. There's so many in need right now. Let's talk a little more about grief if you don't mind because it is such a big deal It is so it's so hard and we we will do anything to avoid it and as a human, right? We just don't want it. I don't blame people for it. Who wants to feel the grief?

But if you don't it's oh you have to or you'll get an ulcer. That's what I used to tell myself Go ahead and cry. Cry, cry, cry. Not obviously in a professional situation. I'm a court reporter. I can't, excuse me, I'm going to have a breakdown. I'll be right back. Can't do that.

But when you're at home and your privacy or your card or something, then let it out. It has to come out. And I was so grateful that I didn't take one, three days after my son had passed, I was told, you have to stop crying. I'm like, no, that's not gonna happen. I would think you'd cry for a few weeks. Oh, it's been months and years. But I mean, we worry after a few months

that people fall into an unresolved grief or depression. True, true, that's true. But if you're doing something active, like being part of a grief group, that's not likely to happen. And that's why I- And they'll watch you too. They'll let you know if the grief seems disproportionate

or somehow pathological. And you know what was the most helpful for me, my friend is a therapist and she did, and I'm sorry, I forgot the name of it, but you do this. EMDR. Thank you. And I did that and I started with

the very beginning of Jeremiah's diagnosis of lung cancer. That's not fair. That's not fair, 27 years old. Just genetics, genetics. From my father's side of the family, it was what we figure, we don't know, who knows? So I went from the very beginning of his journey

going through the treatment and everything. Traumatic, it's so traumatic. It was so traumatic until he was in a hospital. And you're in survival mode and you can't do it, you can't process it, you just go from one thing to the next. One foot in front of the other trying to help him. So there's a lot, you know, he ended up ultimately being overdosed in the hospital.

I told Susan, but he was overdosed with fentanyl and dilated That's how he died as opposed to lung cancer and now it's really sad for me Because I can I have the guilt that I didn't save him or that I didn't notice that they were you know doing Twice the dosage and not remove. Well, let be fair, if he's in that kind of pain, you know, it wasn't gonna be long. Right, however, the immunotherapy was just starting. And I know people that was stage four lung cancer today that have beat it from immunotherapy.

He was just starting Ketruda or something? He was on Tarceva. And then, you know, he was managing with a 25 microgram. They put 50 on him. Yeah. That doesn't usually kill people. That's not that much. Was he taking sleeping pills or something too or something?

No, the nurse didn't remove his dilaudid. So he was getting, he just got an overdose. He had a respiratory arrest. So I went through this whole thing of, do I sue? This is medical malpractice. I'm a court reporter. I know I've done many depositions, many trials. I know, I know lawyers and they sort of were like, I don't think so.

And now I see many more of these now and it doesn't matter the stage. At the time it was in other stages for it. Sorry. anymore of these now and it doesn't matter the stage. At the time it was all the stages for it, sorry. Now that's not the case because you can survive and people are thriving. Yeah oncology, I've said if I were starting on training again I'd think about being an oncologist and back when I was in training I was like,

why do you do that? You can't do anything, you can't accomplish anything. Now we can do a lot, a lot, a lot, which is amazing. Many people survive, late stages, It's amazing, it's wonderful. I'm really happy to see just in the 10 years since Jeremiah's been gone, that what I've seen and seeing other people. Yeah, it's beautiful.

I'm happy, I'm glad for them. Well, to that point, so what a lot of people do with their grief is they find a way to make meaning and giving back and being of service and doing something active and yours is his foundation. I want to be able to tell people where to go to get after it to help you. I'll get back to you.

Okay. I can do. Can they follow you on X or something and maybe you'll announce it as it comes? I can. No. Instagram? I'm on Instagram. Instagram? Something?

I'm on Instagram. Okay, can they follow you? Yes, please. Okay, where's your Instagram handle? It's aalbares122. So it's a, it's all run together, right? No spaces or anything? Right, aalbares.

Albares, A-L-B-A-R-E-Z, 122, aalbares122. Follow Angela on Instagram. And if there's something to be announced about the foundation sheet, you will find it there. Is there anything else we should be focusing on going over? What's that, Caleb? To make this easier for people, especially on the podcast, I'll actually add links to the show notes.

So if you just go to drdrew.com slash 415-2025, the show notes. So if you just go to DrDrew.com slash 415-2025, so it's like 415-2025, then all the links will be there later today. Thank you, Caleb. I was going to say, I didn't understand why Albrez was more complicated than 415-2025. I can remember that. I would love to speak with, or communicate with people who are in my shoes. We walk this path together.

Yeah. And people have helped me. I know there are people listening who are dealing with it or have dealt with it and would like support. And so you can DM you or whatever on Instagram. Definitely, definitely. Yeah, so when you get into service, you get out of pain.

Just for a little while. It just, you know, we are meaning making machines and as humans, and we don't do enough of it. And it's one of the healthiest impulses we have. And it becomes life saving in these extreme circumstances. It's so rewarding, it's gratifying. You help someone else, and you're not just looking at the pain

that you have right in front of you. Right, Dr. Drew? Yeah, it wasn't fair. That's not fair. But fairness is not part of the life, part of God's plan, strangely. But his legacy continues and will help others. That's right.

I really appreciate you being here, and thank you for the work, and we hope we can support it as it goes forward. Thank you for supporting Hillside. Yes, so important. Hillside, I love it. That's another giving back. We put it up as a donation as an auction item

a couple years ago, and I'd forgotten I'd done it, and then she came around and I was like, oh, this will be good. So it's always good to have a fresh face in here and information from people that are living life. We all have experiences, and we really appreciate you joining us. and information from people that are living life. We all have experiences and we really appreciate you joining us. And for supporting Hillside.

And if anybody wants to reach out and support Hillside, it's hillsides.org. We have a benefit every year and we have, we raise money every year for the cause there, but it is, your money goes to a good place. Oh my goodness, yes, for sure. It helps kids from ages zero to 18, and then it also- They have a transitional living.

They also carry on, they send them to college, and they help them with whatever they're dealing with through their whole life. No, this, the hillsides is similar to what we should be doing for a homeless population, right? And a lot of them were homeless, right? Because a lot of kids that come out of foster care, even without addiction, end up homeless.

And so they need stuff like Hillside. They age out. They age out and there's no system there to capture them. Hillside's helps. Hillside's really helps with that. I've been to their campus, it's beautiful. And I picked up my donated items that I picked up. I got some paintings.

Nice. Yeah, it was great. Okay, it was a good, I got a lot of things, yeah. And you know, you can go there and donate your time as well. Like you can read to the kids or you can. But seeing the campus is really a good thing because you really see how it works. It's an amazing group of people.

And I think they have 70 kids on the campus. At a time, yeah, they try to move through. And that's a lot of kids. It's a lot of kids. Well, I'd be happy to give my time. I love stuff like that. That's just- Well, call Carrie Espinoza.

She'll set you up. She will give you stuff to do. This is always needed for manpower. All right, so we are going to leave it. If anybody wants to know, it's here in Pasadena. So if you live in the LA basin and you want to support. It's over towards Highland Park, so it's more towards Los Angeles.

So this ample opportunity for people from all over the LA area to come and be a part of it. Come on, we need you. All right, everybody, let's put up the upcoming guest here. There's the schedule. Susan's show is tomorrow at 11 a.m. Check that out. Sasha Latapova, who I'm just so blown away by her stuff.

She's too smart. There's too much going on in that brain of hers. We have to get an update. Mark Rebehr, coming in. Great, also, tomorrow's show, we're going to have another Hillside's donation person who's a climate expert. Oh, good. So we can, we're going to have another Hillside's donation person who's a climate expert. Oh, good.

So we can, that'll be fun. Find out more about that. Elijah Schaefer, will that be from Florida on 430? Is that what I'm looking at there? Yes. All right. And Dana Loesch. On 430, yeah.

Yeah, and then we leave for a little while. We might have another show on that Friday too. We're not sure, we're working on it. All right, let me just quickly look at the, gosh, what's going on here? This, my stupid, there we go. Look at the restream, see if they're going on with you guys. We had a really good audience today.

I really appreciate all you new people who are joining us because we love X, we had a a good turnout anybody who's new here Welcome, welcome, welcome There's a very strange thing here about Reagan getting shot because he was off script and the guy riding in the back wanted his Hands on the with it. No, no, no, no, you must be a young person. You were not here when that all happened I was I was here. I was watching it I was I was here. I was watching it Thank you guys I'm traveler yeah, I'm a time traveler that's my new that's my new moniker do I think I have a new I've been a new time. No, no, no, I'm not gonna go there just my time travelers

I'm coming forward as the young person. I was from the 90s and 80s and and I'm reporting from the past Here's a Super chat. it's not okay to take drugs and lie down on the sidewalk, that's what I said. Or step over somebody lying on the sidewalk. No, it's all not good, it's just a mess. And I have tried to render my services there and they will not hear of a clinician

and the physicians are not involved. It's like literally they're running a hospital without doctors and nurses, that's what they're doing. Hospital without walls, doctors or nurses. It's insane, they're running a hospital without doctors and nurses. That's what they're doing. A hospital without walls, doctors or nurses. It's insane, it's insane. Makes no sense at all, thank you very much. I'm glad you're there. All right, thank you guys for being here.

We'll be back tomorrow at 11 for a Susan's Show, two o'clock for my show. I won't forget that it's a two, not three. I don't want you to forget either. Talk to dead people tomorrow at 11 a.m. So join me. Wow. Okay. All right, see you then. Bye a.m. So join me. Wow. Okay.

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