Ask Dr. Drew - Fired Over Vax: Dr. Aaron Kheriaty Wins Historic Censorship Lawsuit VS. Biden Admin w/ Uncle Clif & Danielle Carter-Walters of Chicago Flips Red – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 605

Episode Date: April 5, 2026

📞 CALL DR. DREW: 1-833-3DR-DREW (1-833-337-3739) • In 2021, Dr. Aaron Kheriaty was fired by the University of California Irvine for refusing the COVID-19 vaccine mandate, arguing his natural immunity provided robust protection. When his posts about his legal battle were suppressed on social media, he realized he wasn’t just fighting his employer— the federal government itself was directly orchestrating censorship of his free speech. Fast forward to today: Dr. Kheriaty just secured a landmark legal victory in the historic Missouri v. Biden lawsuit (formerly Murthy v. Missouri). Thanks to Dr. Kheriaty’s victory, a federal court consent decree now permanently bars government agencies—including the CDC, Surgeon General, and CISA—from threatening social media platforms to censor constitutionally protected speech. Dr. Kheriaty joins Dr. Drew to break down the 20,000 pages of discovery, the “industrial scale” government censorship machinery, and what this victory means for the future of free speech and physician autonomy. Viral star Uncle Clif joins with his trademark brand of raw, no-filter rants. Danielle Carter-Walters discusses the attack on Sheridan Gorman in Chicago: “exactly what I warned about when I testified at the judicial hearing on Capitol Hill, twice.” “Uncle Clif” Lewis is a veteran automotive technician. Originally from Columbia, MO, he’s a dedicated family man who loves cars, family, and anything loud. He exploded online with raw rants on life, work, accountability, and current events—self-described as “that a**hole that speaks his mind.” He has 89K+ followers on X and over 1.2M likes on TikTok. Follow at https://x.com/ClifLewis3 Danielle Carter-Walters is the owner of UAgainstU Fitness and VP of Chicago Flips Red. She has appeared widely on news programs, discussing the rising crime in her Chicago community. Learn more at https://uagainstufitness.com/ and follow at https://x.com/FlipChicagoRed Dr. Aaron Kheriaty is a physician specializing in psychiatry and author of multiple books, including most recently “Making the Cut: How to Heal Modern Medicine” (2025). He is a Fellow and Director of the Program in Bioethics, Technology, and Human Flourishing at the Ethics and Public Policy Center. He graduated from the University of Notre Dame, earned his MD from Georgetown University, and completed residency in psychiatry at the University of California Irvine. Follow at https://x.com/AaronKheriatyMD 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 • STRONG CELL – If you want to feel more like your younger self, go to https://strongcell.com/ and use code DREW for 20% off. • AUGUSTA PRECIOUS METALS – Thousands of Americans are moving portions of their retirement into physical gold & silver. Learn more in this 3-minute report from our friends at Augusta Precious Metals: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/gold⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or text DREW to 35052 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/fatty15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/paleovalley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twc.health/drew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Executive Producers • Kaleb Nation - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • Susan Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/firstladyoflove⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Content Producer • Emily Barsh - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/emilytvproducer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Hosted By • Dr. Drew Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/drdrew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oh, my microphone's not on. Welcome, everybody. Today I'm welcoming Uncle Cliff to the show. Now, Uncle Cliff, if you know him, he has been ranting online, mostly on X. And I found him there, and I thought, I need some common sense philosophy. And Uncle Cliff seems to have his finger on the polls. I want to hear what he's got to say. We need some pragmatism.

I'm going to go to Uncle Cliff. After that, Danielle Carter Walters, she is the U Against You Fitness and VP of Chicago Flip's Red. She, too, has some ideas about what has been going right and wrong. in Chicago. And then Dr. Aaron Carriotti comes in. He is a psychiatrist who was summarily dismissed for daring to raise his hand about the lack of bioethical standing for a mandate and the vaccines. He just won a very, he was a lead plaintiff in one of these, the Missouri versus Biden case, where free speech is upheld. Thank God, he'll be here to tell his story after this. Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre. The psychopaths start this right. He was an

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No one can prevent all cybercrime or identity theft. Conditions apply. All right, we're going to start with Uncle Cliff. If you can follow him on X, Cliff Lewis, L-E-W-I-S-3, and also TikTok at Cliff Lewis. Obviously, his name is Cliff Lewis. We will call him Uncle Cliff. He describes himself as that a-hole that speaks his mind.

And yeah, but he's not speaking randomly. He's trying to get at the truth. Cliff, welcome to the program. Thank you for having me. So you know what I'm going after, right? I want pragmatism. I want every man's philosophy. I want to know what the world looks like to you.

What do we need to worry about today? What do we overly concerned with? What do we do? Uncle Cliff? I look at things differently because I've been in a lot of odd situations. And being, you know, I was raised by a single mother. My mother has been married a few times. and it's okay, you know, everybody needs love.

But I never really had that father figure that stuck around. So I tried to do what I didn't have at home with my kids. And that's one way to change things that we need to change in society. And right now, everybody's at a rant and their issue right now is Trump. It's not the policies. It's not, you know, anything to do with what's going on. because if the problem was what's going on, they'd be addressing it in their community.

And if you look at a society right now where it was glorified how everybody came out to support a no-kings protest, but you can't get that same support in their own community about the crime rate that's rising in their own community. And this is not only in small towns, it's in big cities.

And until people get back to common sense and a household has to take care of their child, first before they can worry about what's going on in their community and what's going on in the state. If you're not fixing it at home first, you're not preparing your child to go out in the community, but you're also not sending them out or setting that good example in the community. And nobody wants to hear the honest truth. They'd rather listen to some entertainer or some comedian, somebody that has a lot of money that can throw at them and make it look all glitter and sparkles, but it's not.

And kids don't hear that today. Yeah. Yeah, and there's data that shows just having a dad in the home reduces violence in young males by tenfold, ten times. I call that a positive result. That's something we could do something about. But I think there's two things. You tell me if I'm right on this. I think people are afraid to say that because it makes it sound like single moms aren't okay or can't handle it, which is not what anybody's saying. I have full respect for single moms. I'm just saying if it's possible to keep a, look,

even just one sustained outside the home male figure across many years, that will help a great deal. But we're sort of not allowed to say it. Are you getting any pushback on that? It's, I told, like, I have four brothers, and we all talk and each of us are different support things. But one thing we keep between ourselves is, our kids have to have an education

because they're never going to get anywhere if they don't have the knowledge. I don't care how much money you can count if an accountant is beating you and you ain't got the common sense to see the accountant's beating you, you're going to end up broke. So, you know, we push our kids

to go the educational route. Some of our boys are learning because I have brothers that are contractors if they go and work, a trade can make you just as much money but faster than going to college. And people don't want to sell kids the truth. And that's just nobody

I get away with I will say what everybody will think but nobody wants to say. And my mom talked me that way. Uncle Cliff, the people are afraid of being called racist.

They're afraid of being anti-single mom. They're afraid of being called names. They're picking all this stuff. And so the conversation never happens. But if the conversation never happens, how can it ever be addressed? and fix. I know.

That's the point. That's why I'm talking to you. I don't care. I will bring it to the table because nobody else wants to or everybody's worried about getting canceled. I mean, I work a 40-hour job. So if a person wants to cancel me, they got to stop, you know, contractors and people from buying expensive trucks that work on their company and need parts for those. I'd have to be a long line to tumble just to cancel me because I said something that hurt

their feelings. I'm, fuck their feelings. I really don't care about them. It's, your feelings aren't going to get through the day and your boss is not going to cut a paycheck bigger simply because he hurt your feelings and you don't feel good that you weren't paid enough. If you're not putting in the work, you're not going to get that paycheck. And everybody uses an excuse. Excuses are nothing. You know, it's not going to change anything.

I don't want to get up and go to work at 8 o'clock in the morning, but I don't have a bank account. account that says I have the money to keep my butt at home and we got to eat so I can't make any excuse regardless. I got to go eat and nobody wants to do that and hold kids accountable or hold people accountable even adults. When you have generation after generation after generation that are seen, if I just sit back and wait, somebody will give it to me. That's what they are trained and learn to expect. Yeah. You know, if they don't and. And I, I've also heard you say, fuck your feelings more than once. And my question. is how did we get to this point where feelings, feelings have such a priority over, you know, engagement?

It's how we got here. I have, it started. It was after my generation. I was told to get outside and shut up. And if you don't like it, I get you more to cry about. You know, it, my generation, we weren't powder coated and, you know, babyed about things. We fell off the bike. It was get up, dust yourself off, get back on. And, get back on it. and try again. Didn't nobody come over and you didn't get a ward for participation. That wasn't life. Because in life, you don't get the job simply because you applied for it.

You have to have a reasoning behind that. And now people have been allowed to, well, I'm going to go cry and write a letter. And that letter is able to raise so much awareness that people are scared of their business being hurt simply because they made an educated decision not based on their feeling. and it all come from this

I also I also think that the family system has been under attack and I don't you know we know that there are people with political ideologies out there I want to kind of control us and change everything

and what better thing to do than control the language push aside logic in the name of feelings and destroy the family so the government becomes effectively the family going to take care of you. You become dependent on the government.

This is, I don't know what country, well, I do know countries that have done that, not this one. But all they're doing is they're using the same theoretical things that gangs have used, the mob use. They get that person that's already down and been beaten up so bad. And they give them that family feeling of warmth

and through giving them that warmth, what do they get? Loyalty and respect. Simply because when they were down, somebody gave him a hand up. It just always ends up being the wrong person to give them a hand up. You know, it's in society, the government will help you with everything in the world if you simply quit and give up. But as soon as a person starts moving up, they start pulling everything away. How much further could a person get if you didn't pull that insurance simply because they made an extra $100?

Or you didn't pull that food that, you know, they were getting in that extra $250, $350,300. $300 a month was helping them get that bread and stuff that their paycheck couldn't cover. But now they got a simple 50 cent, 75 cent raise. Let's pull all that food from them. How much further and how much farther and how much more proud of their self would they be if them programs weren't pulled so quick? Basic human motivation. Did something specific lead you to start ranting? Was there something that just got you?

it's my big brother calls me brutally honest and it's one of those that if somebody told me something that I'm an oddball and if I read something I tend to remember it or like with work if I look at wiring codes I'll remember them and I won't have to go back and look at them again it's just weird but if I know in my heart

I'm right and I've read it or I've seen it I'm going to argue it and I don't care how much I hurt your feelings. I will do my little brother has brought girls around and convince them

that I cannot read simply to have me embarrass them. And they play off baggy clothes, old, I look like an old bum. We go shopping. I go shopping with my wife

and people automatically assume I'm an old bum. And I love it. I will play off of that just to see where I can take it. But it's, It's just reality.

People in society, they all have their own thoughts and emotions and they bring their feelings into it. The feelings ain't got nothing to do with it. It ends you in a bad place. What are you ranting about what's got you today? Did you do a rant today? I didn't look. And if so, if not what would you be ranting about? I didn't look at social media today simply because I knew I would talk to you and you would tell me something bad that's occurred this weekend.

And I mean, common sense-wise, we can open, anybody knows. I don't care whether you're black, white, purple, green. You know the news is going to promote what is going to get them the views. So if there is five people shot in this nightclub in this community and they knew everything was bad, they're going to report that regardless of what it was in this child being raped in this small town. They're not going to report that because it's not going to draw the attention that these kids over here, tearing things up. You know, the news is only going to show you

what is going to bring them more views and put money in the pockets of those up top that are collecting money. They're not going to show you what is actually affecting you in your community. Because I watch people, why is Missouri reporting stuff that's going on in Pennsylvania and it ain't got nothing to do with Pennsylvania and their state laws? But why are they reporting that here?

It don't affect us. You know, and it's all spread apart. Nothing. So we could go on and we could go on and rant, we could ran about people are always going to rant about Trump that they just don't like him if it was somebody else standing up there doing the exact same things they they would be cheering all day long and that's it's possibly i think i think i think cliff there's a there's a deep instinct that he is somehow racist i think i think that's where they don't like him i agree with you

100 but i think they're at least they're trying to pitch this idea that he's he's racist and that is core. There's some, and if he's not, if he's not actually racist, he's sort of race ignorant or something. What do you say to that? I've,

I've listened to Democrats scream that. And, you know, but they voted for David Duke. I remember him. I'm that old. I remember him. I'm that old.

But I do know some things about history. But I know Trump has always solidified itself. I'll be 50 this year. So I remember the pictures of him with, with the Don King and the Mike Tyson's and the Michael Jackson's and the Eddie Murphy. I remember them pictures where he was always around them people. Everybody, you listen to rap music from 10 years ago and everybody was going to be Trump. So at what point and how much other people have to pay them people to stop singing about him and start hating him?

At what point, what changed him from then to, you don't just wake up the next day and I don't like black people. if you don't like black people stay away from I don't know too many rich people to live in Beverly Hills to go to Compton just to hang out so that's the easy thing to fix in life if you don't like somebody don't go around them but it's I don't like Trump that shouldn't stop me from that don't help you make a mental decision for everybody as a whole

because that one person shouldn't pay everybody to the whole Yeah, I did I did hear you ranting a couple, maybe a couple days ago about stay away from people you don't like. Fine, you said, I think you said, I want people don't like me to stay away. Fine, stay away. So it's kind of, I mean, but I think it's unfortunate. I don't think people really, I think when people stay away from each other has less to do with race than many other things. You know what I mean? They don't like your, yeah, something about you or whatever. But the small towns. You got, you know, the big cities you are. They're always glorified of big cities and black kids and shooting and shit. But you got the small towns with the trailer parks and the white dudes cooking meth. So there and it's just one of them gets glorified in areas other than others do.

You know, everybody's poor and everybody's trying to get their hustle and make their money. But it's white people in certain neighborhoods, you know, don't go around this trailer park or this neighborhood. Just like those black people to know, don't go walk down this street or this street. didn't I? It's your surroundings in your area. It never has to do with the color. Right. It's the screwed up people. And look, I agree with you. I mostly, Cliff, I want to encourage you to keep ranting. You don't need to apologize if anybody thinks you look a certain way. When you say you look like an old, an old, an old, I disagree. I disagree. I disagree. I agree. Well, you do look like, you look like a wise older man. That's what you look like. You don't look like a bum. And whoever said that. He grew up all Fred Sanford. So he watched Sanford and son and he's 14. So it's one of those that, to him, he calls me old man Fred and I'll call him a little of mine. And it's funny. It's our joke as he does like you and me. You know, so it's really funny when you see this out. But that's our love. We go out and we have.

have fun and people look at us like we're odd. Is this a little white dude and a old black man? I'm just... It looks really odd. I'm just glad that you, that Sanford's son is coming back. I mean, Red Fox is a genius. So... They need to bring that back. People need to put their feelings aside and just laugh at

things. You know, everything in life is not supposed to be shits and giggles, you know. It's not supposed to always be fun, but it's, you got, when you get that time to laugh, enjoy because you know eventually you got to go to work for something's going to get hard. Well, I got to wrap it up, Cliff. It is a privilege to talk to you. What are your last thoughts as I sign off? Man, everybody knows. Fuck your feelings.

Your feelings really ain't got nothing to do with your decisions in life. When it comes to making decisions, use your head. Think about it. My mom always told me think 48 hours before you make a good choice. It's that simple. Your feelings will get you fucked over. But I appreciate you having me. Harry Truman.

Yeah, of course, my privilege. Harry Truman said, do not make any decision today that you could make tomorrow. Just wait, wait, any decision tomorrow. And fuck your feelings in the meantime. So thank you, my friend. I'll look forward to more rants on your on your X-Feed. Thank you. All right, buddy.

Take care. All right. We have our number. It's a 3833-3-3-D-R-D-A-W, 833-3, Dr. Drew. and you guys didn't call it. I would have put you in if you wanted to talk to Cliff. I think I'm in the call-in studio. Yeah, I'm where I need to be.

And but, you know, Uncle Cliff, I, oh, I haven't gotten my stream put together yet either. I apologize for that. So I don't know what you guys are thinking. There it is. Let's see what people think about Cliff. A lot of positive comments. They love Cliff. People need to call it.

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Okay, let me get the next guest in here. We'll talk about that. This is Danielle Carter Walters, another one that has been spitting fire. And I asked her to come on in here. She owns you against you fitness. She also a VP of Chicago Flips Red. You can find out more, you against you. Whoop.

You Against You Fitness. Okay. And also that is on You Against You Fitness.com. And then on X, it's FlipChicago Red. Daniel, thank you for being here. Hello. Thank you for having me. So, you know, we've been very worried about Chicago.

I work with an organization that's been trying to reduce violence. And Chicago is where one of the principals in this organization lost a family member. And so good news. The mayor today wants to get rid of incarceration altogether. So we'll have no police, no incarceration. And that should take care of the problem in Chicago. Well, Dr. Drew, he ran on, well, we know he was a defund of police. socialist, communists.

And we should never have pulled for him in the first place. That? Excuse me. Can you see me? Yeah, we got you. It's coming through Loud of Clear. Everything's good.

Okay. So he should never have been elected in the first place. That's why we are Chicago flips red. We are working very hard to get President Trump to send the FAS in to investigate, Brendan Johnson. He, with the crime prevention money, we see that crime isn't down. So we want to know

where that money is going. We know it's going to the NGOs. We know it's going to his friends. So we just, you know, we're asking for President Trump to send a FADS in, but crime is not down. I know that they lie and tell the numbers. They tell these numbers and these are fake numbers. I've shouting that out to the rooftop. They have allowed 50,000 illegal aliens, and we believe it's more Dr. Drew, but we're just going to go with the numbers that they lie about.

50,000 illegal aliens, they allowed to flood into our communities. So not only are we dealing with the crime that's done by Americans, we're dealing with illegal alien crime. So we had a college student from Loyola University who had just, she was shot and killed by an illegal alien who was released and let back out into the community. So we are not safe and we're just hoping that he's the fans come very soon. And one of your city representative described the incident as, well, she must. have startled this man who's on the end of the pierge must have startled him and that led to the

shooting i mean by the way she was running away and he shot her in the back uh okay this is these are your what do you what do you guys call them you don't call them like city council you have a name for them like what's the name the alderman so that was maria hat olderman that's the fourth yeah the older where she all the person whatever she wants to identify uh as but she uh she's the 49th ward all them in. Her name is Maria Haddon. And we actually believe that he was in the community. And we are funding their free lifestyle

where they live for free off the tax dollars. So she said that he was at the, I mean, Sheridan Gorman was at the wrong place at the wrong time and she started. Right. He did say that. Yeah. So we have

Chicago Phillips Red had been protesting in front of her office. Actually, we protest, what was it Tuesday? And we had a Loyola College student to come. And he talked about how unsafe they feel. So the college students actually came to protest and tell what disgusting comment that is, that she said in how they're protecting illegal aliens over the American

citizens. So we are just fed up. American citizens are fed up. Chicagoans, Illinois, we're fed up. These sanctuary city policies, they don't do nothing but harbor criminals and protect illegal alien criminals.

And the real Americans, we are not protected. And we're rising up and we are speaking for ourselves. And Chicago flips red, we're giving the residents, the Real Americans are voice to come out and speak up because for far too long, Chicago has been corrupt, the most corrupt city, and they've been silencing you through retaliation.

And we're done with it. We're done with the communist, socialist agenda that they're trying to bring to America. He is a communist. He is a, and I don't play with words, I'm not going to say socialist. CTU, he is a part of CtU. CtU came out and they're saying they're not hiding it. They're in bed with a socialist and communist party. And they are trying to push this agenda in a capitalist society.

And we would not stand for it. Go to communist China if you want to bring communism here. But you're not going to bring that here in America. We say no and we reject that. ideology. You know, Danielle, you, it seems so desperate in Chicago and everyone seems so unhappy with what's going on there. How do people respond, not that they necessarily have to agree with everything you say,

but how do people respond to your efforts? Are there, I'm imagining the NGOs and whatnot, they're so highly funded, don't want to see their funding cutoff, so they probably push back on you. But average citizens, are they pushing back in some way? No, the average, well, at first before we, see, when we go down there to City Hall, Dr. Drew, we sit in the meetings. So we are privy to all the information. We see how they vote. We see the money that they allocate to certain NGOs, the pastors.

We've got to talk about the fake pastors. So we see who's getting the more money and why it never makes it to. our community. They want us to believe it's a white man, it's white supremacists, but we have all these black faces in high places, and they're the ones taking our tax dollars and lining their pockets, giving themselves raises, and following that money back into their campaigns. So what we have done and been very, very successful at, whereas we're going and calling out the And we are showing the proof. So at first, the residents, you know, they were kind of iffy because when you talk about anything other than a Democratic plantation, and we as black freedoms, we've been voting blue no matter who.

So when we talk about that to our community, that's foreign. So they reject that at first. But the more we were talking, educate our people, and show the receipts. Show them. Now they're starting to come around and say, you know what? I see what you all are talking about. I see the lives. And they're looking at their communities. They see that the crime is not down. They don't feel safe. So every time Brandon Johnson go up there and lie and tell, talk about he's been the most affordable, safer Chicago. And then we have a shooting right there, right, that night a mass shooting. So we, they feel it. They know it. So they know it. They see the lives. So at first, it was hard at first. But now Chicago flips red. We are getting so many messages, emails, where now the residents are saying, you know what, how can we help?

How can we be a part of this? We see this. At first, we were scared to speak up because they retaliate against you. Business owners, if you have a successful business. And if you are speaking out against what that communist king of administration, Brandon Johnson and Pritzer, if you're talking against it, then somehow your business get violations. Somehow the city come in and give you, okay, that cold is not, you know,

it's not up to cold. So this is what the business owners have been experiencing in the citizens. But now they're not scared to speak up. Now we have given the forgotten residents of voice, the ones who were not listening to, but they were still taking their tax dollars to fund this insaneness. Now they're speaking up. We have more people coming to City Hall. Which is great. I hear that you may be sitting at the Supreme Court listening to arguments tomorrow.

Is that true? Oh, no, that was today. We just, we're in Washington. now. So that was today. Oh my God Dr. Drew. What happened to the party of love and

inclusion? We didn't feel any love out there or any inclusion. They feel like that the party of the Democratic Party we were out there just showing our support to our President Trump because

this is so important. This is probably the most important case that the Supreme Court will be hearing. This is going to go down in history. And we as a descendants of the enslaved babies, but like our president said, we stand with him because we understand the 14th, the 13th, the 14th, the 14th, and the 15th amendment was designed for us.

And the Democrat and the Republicans are the ones who freed the And the Democratic Party, they are so used to lump in everybody else in on what we fought for, where our ancestors died for. And so President Trump is saying, no, the 14th Amendment, the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendment, but particularly the 14th Amendment, it's not for illegal aliens. It's not for immigrants. It's for the descendants of the enslaved babies. I am a descendant of the enslaved. So it was very important that we come there, Chicago Phillips Rear,

that we stand with our president as freedom and say, we're with you. We would no longer allow anybody to be lumped in on our plight and get the benefits that was allotted to us. We never got the benefits that the Republicans promised us. Oh, listen. Read your, read the churn, no, the churnow biography on Grant, the scales fell from my eyes about what a effing disaster reconstruction was. And then read the words of Frederick Douglass.

There is, this was, to me, this was the reconstruction and the post-of-award era was truly our darkest hours. and people don't really understand how horrific things were for the freed African-Americans at the time. It was just horrible. But, A. Caleb, you have some videos, and I want to ask you before I get to those, how did you get going with all this? Well, just seeing the injustice that I endured for as taxpayer citizens, Chicago residents, long life. I mean, I lived there my entire life. So my husband is a retired CPD officer.

And we did everything right, Dr. Drew. We did everything. We paid big taxes. You know, by you against you fitness business, he being a CPD officer, we did everything right. But when it was time for us to get a business, we bought the building. But they gave us so many problems. through the opportunities on that President Trump implemented

that was supposed to be for me. A woman, I mean a woman. I'm American, a black American, freeman American. So those grass, small business loan, things that we're supposed

to get just as Americans. They, you know, they give you the runaround. When you're, you know, where's you got to have 10-year credit history? They want to see how you ever found bank up, how much money you have in your account, how many taxes you pay. All of these things we had to show and keep showing A1 credit, but then I started seeing illegal alien businesses pop up in my community and they were allowed to have entire restaurants on the street

and they didn't have to get, where were their credit history, where were their bank accounts, where were all, what was this? So when that happened, the injustice, And the tip money. So they took that. And then Zolie, they took her mother's property. Didn't give her any money for it. And they're just, they're taking black people properties. So we through the injustice that happened to Zoli, Jessica Jackson, me, myself,

when we came down there, we had different plights. But it's the same thing that the city of Chicago is corrupt. And it doesn't work for the. American citizens. So we form Chicago flips red to fight corruption, to stand against this king, this communism, which is the Democratic Party, and to show transparency and to let the taxpayer citizens know where our tax dollars is going and show the corruption, show them that their money, when you look at your communities, and you see that your community, how the decline has happened.

And they're blaming everybody but the Democratic Party know it's the people in charge. We've been voting blue no matter who for 60 years. And look what has gotten us. Nowhere. We actually got, we went back.

So that's what Chicago flips red is about. We are for bringing transparency, educating our people on policies, showing the corruption, ending the corruption, and saying enough is enough and giving the real American citizens back their voice. I told you Danielle Spitfire,

and she did not disappoint. Before we wrap up, tell us about your fitness program. Okay, well, Dr. Drew, unfortunately, because of what we are doing and what we are fighting in Chicago, I can't take, I had to down, you know, I can't take new clients.

in my business because of what I'm doing. I'm fighting the street. We are fighting the city of Chicago. So. I hear you. Listen. I hope people are inspired. Whether they agree with you or not, I hope they're inspired by you because you have great clarity,

both of thought and of expression. And I just wish you luck. I know, I know you want to make things better. That's your goal. Yes, that's my heart, Dr. Drew. My heart is for the people, the community. I'm seeing the injustice. I live right there.

See, I'm not these politicians like Prisker or billionaire. Brendan Johnson that has 150 police detail around him. I'm living in the very community that I'm fighting for. I can actually go outside and get shot just like, every other citizen in Chicago. I'm right here. So I know the problems. We see what we are fighting for.

We live among the problems in the citizens. And I'm telling you right now that Dr. Drew. And I mean this from the bottom of my heart. If I have to run for mayor, I will do that to give the citizens back. their city to give it back to we the people and be a good steward over their money and over what they, what our ancestors died for, the rights they died for. If I have to do it, I'm going to get my hands dirty. Let's go. I look forward to nothing more than that. That would be

a truly an inspiration. And if you're not going to do it, you better come up with the good reason why because I think you'd make a great candidate. But I don't necessarily want to do that to you in your life and your husband. It would be quite a thing. But listen, I appreciate you being here. Should people look for you on X or where should they go? They can find me on X at Chicago Flip's Red. They can also find me on X at D-A-N-N-I-C-44. But on all the platforms, we have Chicago Flips Red. They can find me, Zoli, the founder. of Chicago, Flips Red, and we're going to continue

to show the corruption. And Flipsred.com is the website. Got it. Flipsred. Good luck. If they want to go to our website. You gotcha. See you soon, I hope.

When you run from mayor. Okay, thank you for having me, Dr. Drew. And I love your show, Dr. Drew. You might as well just come over to the conservative side, the Republican side, Dr. Drew. You outed me. You know I'm too centrist.

But I'm inspired by you, so keep it going. All right, Danielle, thank you. Okay, thank you so much. All right. You bet. It's so funny. I get accused of being far right. It's Daniel, who's actually right, understands that I'm in the middle.

That's so funny. All right, Dr. Aaron Cariotti, coming up next. With a rational, right. Yeah, yeah. I just want the pragmatic party. I want the party that gets things done, helps things. Back to governance. We have this thing in this country right now,

for people that run for offices are interested in representing, not governing. They have no interest in governing. No Uncle Cliff in there. The Uncle Cliff would be great. But we just got to get, we got to find people that can just make good decisions. You're worried about people's feelings a lot more than he is, yeah.

What are you alleging? Like he was like, you know, fuck the feelings. Oh, he's worrying about feels feelings? No, he doesn't, he said, fuck the feelings. Right. You know, be practical. No, I think he'd be great. I think, uh, people like that, we need to get, this was meant to be a government by the people.

We need to get the people, the regular folks, that's 70% that's not a true believer, not like people like me going, hey, what's going the hell is going on here? Just people, regular people, get them in government, let them make good decisions and, uh, get ideology out of it and pragmatism in. Okay, be right back with Aaron Carriotti. Oh, wait. Oh, we do have a, uh, oh, we do have a, We have a caller on hold.

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There we go. Yeah, thank you. There we got you now. great to be back with you, Dr. Drew. Always good to be talking with you, and especially this week when we got a victory in our case challenging government censorship. And so it's a good week for free speech. Let me ask this about the case.

It's not a, I forget the way the legal terms, but it's a injunction of sorts, right? It's not a, it can't be cited as case law for other cases at this point. Is that accurate? No, actually, that's not accurate. So we reached a settlement agreement, and the settlement is basically entered into the record by the federal judge, Terry Dowdy in this case. And so the settlement was negotiated between the plaintiffs and the defendants. But once the court endorses it, it functions like a legal precedent in federal court, as though the judge himself had made the ruling. Yeah, in fact, that's one of the most important aspects of this case because, you know, some people have said, well, the settlement agreement wasn't broad enough. It only covers the plaintiffs in this case. It doesn't necessarily, it doesn't have an enforcement mechanism to cover other people. But I think the response to that is yes, but what it does is set a precedent that allows other people to argue that, look, the facts in our case are analogous to the facts in Missouri v. Biden. and therefore, you know, we should get a similar ruling. That's how the courts function. They do have to rely on precedent.

And one of the things about our case that was really unique is, as the first case of this kind of the digital age, the circuit court judges, the three-panel judges who upheld the preliminary injunction on appeal, basically said there isn't any good precedent for this case, because it's the first case of its kind in the sort of social media. era. And so, you know, part of, I think, what we accomplished in this case is to not only get some redress for the plaintiffs that were impacted, you know, me and the others involved in the case, but also to set that precedent in federal court that others can now cite if they are censored by the government in ways that were similar to what happened to the plaintiffs in our case. It seemed like it was in the judgment or the settlement. It was specific to various organizations. Is it something that can be applied to anywhere in the federal governments?

So in terms of this court enforcing the injunction for the plaintiffs, it's only against those entities for which we had sufficient evidence. That's why they're specifically mentioned. Some of the social media companies are mentioned, others are not. that had to do with the evidence that we were able to present to the court. But again, that doesn't mean that the other social media companies are off the hook and they can do this anyway. It just means that our particular judge and our particular case can't directly go after those people. That would require novel litigation.

But again, that litigation can rely on the precedent set in Missouri v. Biden in order to achieve probably an easier victory now that we've already sort of plowed that field. and tread some of that round. You know, the other thing the case did, Drew, is I said from the beginning, we have to fight in the courts. We did obtain a legal victory in the court, even if it wasn't maybe as broad as what we would have wanted.

But we also have to fight in the court of public opinion. And one of the things this case allowed us to do is to explain to the American people is we got more and more information. We got more documents on discovery. We depose various defendants under oath like Anthony Fauci. We were able to sort of put together a picture of the way in which the government censorship machinery was operating. The scope of the censorship and just how broad and how vast it was,

the district court judge said in his initial injunction ruling that if what plaintiffs allege is true, this is the worst violation of free speech in United States history because it affected tens of thousands of Americans hundreds of thousands of times when the government pressured social media companies to literally change their algorithms and change their terms of service to allow for very broad censorship during COVID, very broad censorship related to the 2020 election. And then we discovered censorship happening on other issues that are important Americans, both domestic policy and foreign policy.

So we were able to uncover all that information. We were able to come on shows like this, talk about what was going on. That was coming out in tandem with the Twitter files, these journalists who Elon Musk led in the back door after he bought Twitter, and they were able to describe some of the internal communications between the government and Twitter.

And so Missouri v. Biden and the Twitter files really put the censorship issue on the map. It became an issue in the 2020 election. We got an executive order on day one of the new administration, vowing to dismantle the government's censorship machinery that had made this all possible. Very last question in the vice presidential debate that was put to J.D. Vance, this was the last debate just before Election Day, was, don't you think that you're running, mate, is a threat to democracy?

And his answer was, well, I think the real threat to democracy is the government-sponsored censorship that's been happening on an industrial scale for the last several years. So this became an issue in the election as well. And so bringing it to the attention of the American people, describing the workings of what one journalist, Michael Schellenberger, called the censorship industrial complex, how it was all operating, who it was targeting. I think that was perhaps the most important aspect of this case,

to shine a bright light on the nature and the scope of the censorship. And to prove now to the American people with this ruling that it was, wasn't just the platforms doing this. We already knew that. It wasn't just Twitter and Facebook and LinkedIn and so forth. It was the government, perusing, pressuring, cajoling the platforms to do this, which was a clear violation of our constitutional rights. A lot of people zeroed down on the word jawboning that the government was jawboning. What's the big deal? They were just talking to them. But I mean, when somebody becomes hot from the government and starts threatening you, that's not jaw-boning.

That means real. In fact, if you look at the meaning of that word, you look at the meaning of that word, it comes from the Bible, actually, this dude in the Old Testament who takes an animal bone and hits another guy over the head with it. That's jaw-boning. So the literal meaning of the word is not talking. It's not just having a conversation. It's hitting someone over the head, right? It's threatening violence if they don't do what you. what you want. And so job boning in that sense was happening. So I published a piece in the Wall Street Journal with one of our attorneys in the case called the White House COVID censorship machine. And in that, from some of the documents in our case, we show these back and forth

emails between a guy in the White House named Rob Flaherty, a director of digital communications, and a senior executive at Facebook. And basically, it wasn't just, hey, we want you to take a look at these six accounts and see if they violate your terms of service. It was dropping F-bombs saying people in our office are very, very upset with you because you haven't acted on this quickly enough. We already told you to do this. You haven't done it yet. And we're really pissed off. We're going to make life difficult for you. There were threats to remove Section 230 liability protections, which Zuckerberg said is an existential threat to our business model. So the government basically threatening to make it impossible for these very powerful companies to do business both here and abroad.

So that is the nature of the censorship. It wasn't just, hey, we think you should check this out. Maybe this information is not good. Maybe you should think about taking it down. It was, and it wasn't just the government expressing its own right to free speech, which of course it can do. The government can say anything it wants. What the government can't do is prevent you and I from speaking. And that's what was happening.

And that's what we established. That's what we proved in Missouri v. Biden. Are there going to be a number of other cases sort of piling in now? I think about Alex Barrensen and people like that. Yeah. I mean, hopefully we're going to see some analogous rulings on that. And again, you know, the ruling in this case may assist with the legal reasoning in some of those other cases. I was just on an interview with Mary Holland from Children's Health Defense.

They had a companion case to our case. So one of the things that came out on our documents on discovery was that among the people who were specifically being targeted by the government was Robert F. Kennedy Jr. at the time, in his current position as HHS secretary, but at the time running this nonprofit called Children's Health Defense. So Kennedy v. Biden, which continued to be litigated by C.S. THD after he started working for the defendant was a case that our judge combined for purposes of discovery with our case. So it's possible the judge could have come to a different ruling in both cases. But for discovery, he could use our documents. We could use his documents.

We could co-present evidence that the others had found. And that case just settled as well. It sounds like they got a settlement agreement that was very close to what we got. so that was another legal victory in that case. And then the nonprofit that represented the private plaintiffs in our case was called the New Civil Liberties Alliance. And NCLA just announced yesterday that had another case going after some of these third party quote unquote fact checkers were really full-time censors, newsguards, some of these people who were basically, you know, bullying individuals who were trying to express their free speech online. And NCLA prevailed and got a favorable ruling in that case as well. So I think we're beginning now to see, you know, the courts grind slowly.

We were, this litigation was initially filed back in 2022. So four years of litigating with, you know, against the federal government who has infinite resources at their disposal, you know, to make life difficult for you. Finally getting a win. So the courts grind slowly, but we're starting to see some of these cases come to fruition. Now I'm hoping Berenson gets a, obviously gets a good ruling in his case as well. I think we have to continue to fight in the courts. There's, you know, if you know anything about the history of free speech litigation in the United States,

it's been a fight from the beginning of our history. I mean, the ink was barely dry in the First Amendment before our second president, John Adams, started going after the speech of individuals who were criticizing our foreign policy with this seditions act. The Aliens and Sedition Act. Exactly. It didn't take long. Which was considered a major embarrassment in the history of the United States.

I would remind people. We had to fight that right out of the gate. And so it's always going to be a battle to defend our constitutional rights. I like to say if we don't go to court and defend those rights, then the Constitution remains just words on a piece of paper, nice aspirations, but people will trample it if you allow them to. So we got to fight in the legal courts. We've got to fight in the court of public opinion and inform the American people about what's happening in regards to government censorship. And there's not going to be one case that definitively settles the issue for all time.

But the cumulative effect of cases like this, I think is going to go a long ways towards responsibility. storing free speech. I think you and I talked some time ago about the problem with the public health authority in an emergency, that there's a wrinkle in our Constitution that gives them way too much authority. And now we know that they have no interest in do no harm. They have no interest in risk reward analysis. They have no mandate for do no harm. And they're not even clinicians in probably a majority of cases.

Certainly here in Los Angeles, they were not. And I'm gravely concerned that we're going to come out of COVID and not do something with that problem. Do you know, is anybody working on that? Sadly, I have not seen any movement politically in that regard. In my 2022 book, The New Abnormal, it looks like it's a book about COVID. But what I tried to explain to people is, no, it's primarily a book about the future. Even though a lot of the COVID-specific policies, lockdowns, mask mandates, vaccine mandates, school closures have been rolled back.

The underlying legal mechanism made all of those possible, which was the declared state of emergency by governors, by executives, and by the president in conjunction with the Secretary of Health and Human Services, those legal mechanisms that make the state of emergency declarations possible are still in place. What happens when a governor or the president declares a state of emergency is that It's that individual who accrues additional extra constitutional powers. President of the United States gains 128 additional powers under a declared state of emergency that he otherwise wouldn't have, including access to emergency funding.

So if you think about separation of powers, Congress in our Constitution holds the purse strings. If you want something funded, you've got to go to Congress. The executive can set up a new agency, a new three-letter agency. But to get that agency funded, he has to go to Congress. hat in hand asking for money. That's a check on our governing system. Well,

the president declares a state of emergency. He has access to emergency funding. Doesn't have to go hat and hand to Congress. Can do all kinds of things that he wouldn't otherwise be able to do. And he is the sole person to declare when that emergency is over. So you stop and think about it.

Just psychologically, we know how power works. Someone makes a unilateral Fiat Declaration, it gives them additional powers, and they have the sole discretion to decide when to relinquish those powers. It doesn't matter who the person is. That system structurally is set up for an abuse of power, right? It's the extremely rare person in public authority who voluntarily gives up power. It's just human nature. It doesn't mean it's a bad person. It's just human nature. That's why our founders set up the- system to have checks and balances.

Yeah. So we got to deal with the state of emergency by putting either a legislative check in place. Like you can declare a state of emergency after an earthquake in California for two weeks, but then if it's going to be renewed, the state legislature has to do that every 90 days. You've got to vote on it. Or we've got to put some criteria in law that define what does and doesn't constitute a state of an emergency. So you could challenge that state of emergency in court. And a judge could say, we're no longer above the threshold for a public health emergency.

So this has to end, which would be another. There's two ways to put a check on the system. One of those two things, I think, needs to be in place to prevent the kind of abuse of power that we saw during COVID. Yeah, we have to put something like that in. Unfortunately, no one's paying attention to that right now. Lastly, before I let you go, are you going to go back around and, I don't know, with the pressure on UC system or UC Irvine, one of the most egregious aspects of the, one of the most egregious aspects was the mandating of healthy people to get the vaccine. Kids with a non-zero risk from Omicron and a non-zero risk from the vaccine being mandated, right?

That's insane. And again, didn't affect severity of illness, didn't affect transmission, didn't affect anything. just it's for older people. It was not helping younger people. It was only exposing them to risk. But is it DARPA that they're all under, that they eliminate the liability that they would have incurred otherwise?

And is that protecting them from someone like you as well? Yeah. And unfortunately, so I was fired in retaliation, as some of our viewers may know, after challenging the University of California's vaccine mandate in federal court, I was their director of their medical ethics program and a professor in the school of medicine for 16 years, and they unceremoniously got rid of me after I had, you know, the temerity to challenge that policy in federal court. Unfortunately, the statute of limitations to bring an employment

suit against them has since expired. So there's, I'm not planning on taking any more action against the university. Funny enough, my teacher. case against them probably would have succeeded had it been filed about 18 months later. Some of it was a timing issue because about a year after my case was decided not in my favor, a case against the university, separate case from the Missouri v. Biden case we were discussing earlier. There was a case in the Ninth Circuit where the Ninth Circuit ruled on the LA Unified School District's vaccine mandate and basically came to the same conclusion that I was arguing in the case, which was that a precedent that's always cited to support vaccine mandates in 1905 case,

while Jacobson v. Massachusetts, didn't apply to the COVID shots because they didn't stop infection and transmission. And that was among the central arguments in my case. So my case would have prevailed had it come a little bit later because it could have relied on that appellate court precedent. That's water under the bridge now. I'm doing very well at the Ethics and Public Policy Center, getting some support as well from the Brownstone Institute, who are friends of ours. And so I like working independently. I've been able to write and publish a lot more since I left the university than I had time for with all my teaching duties.

At the university, I've published two books. I got two more under contract that are in the pipeline. So I miss the students and residents at the university, but I have no plans just to answer your question to go back and fight to try to get my old job back. You know, I think it's enough for me that most people who are familiar with my case understand that the university was in the wrong. And, you know, just knowing that feels like sufficient vindication as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, and during the darker hours, it was hard to convince people of that.

They didn't understand it. I think now there's a much more general understanding about these excesses. well listen we applaud you we've always been a fan and uh look forward to your next projects thank you always good to be with you you bet erin karyotti thank you everybody thank you for being here all right i promised i would take a couple of calls here uh let me do that um oh did i lose did i lose one of the callers uh jacky now is still with us she's had problems with the g lp ones Jackie, what's going on? Hey, Doc.

Well, I'll make it as short as possible. Not politics. I worked for a few presidents, so I had enough of them back in the 80s and the early 90s. Interesting. Yeah, Bush and McCain and Palin and all of them. I was their event planner up in New Hampshire when my ex and I retired. Wow, crazy.

Yeah, in fact, I'm still in touch with Sarah. because her boyfriend is diagnosed with stage four cancer. Rod Dugay played for the New York Rangers. So anyway, you're my last resort because let me just do a quick synopsis of my background. I started competing in track, believe it or not, back in the 70s, and I just continued my sports. I was a competitive athlete during my 20s in the United States and Europe. 1500 meters. I grew up in Belgium in the summer. A very healthy lifestyle, always, even to this day.

Years went by. I never had an ounce of fat on me. Years go by, we decided to move to New Hampshire. That was his idea. So we go up there and I had retired, so I had nothing to do. So I went back to school and became an animal behavior because my uncle in Belgium had horses. So as I continued, started my business, I noticed, you know, I wasn't just wasn't, wasn't, feeling right, but things weren't going well. So, being that I got my dogs trained, and I was teaching dogs to flush the geese off the golf courses. This is back in 2005. And it was very successful, and of course, where we lived, we were kind of like up on a granite hill, and it was a ranch that was surrounded by fencing, and my girl had a push door to go in and out. And one night, she kind of freaked out because she sent something was out there, and the sensor lights didn't

come on. And in New Hampshire, you don't have a center like the humans you have the dog. I'm feeling, I'm feeling a back injury coming here.

I step into outside. Right away, I have three seconds, and I have a 300-pound bear taking me down on my, on my, my God. Yeah, I'm still on me too.

I'm back then. She's a flusher, right? A flusher, you know, they, they tap you on your leg and they push you into place. She proceeded,

it was a male, I found out. She proceeded to push him and flush him off exactly where he came up. At the point, my husband came up, he heard some noise downstairs and came up outside. He couldn't believe it. I was gushing blood out of my head, my ears. He had shoved me into a glass plate, his full body weight. And then it was all hell.

Everything went out to 911, and the whole East Coast was after me. Good morning. America wanted me to come on there, and I'm from New York. I'm from Long Beach, Long Island. Then I had the Boston newspapers. So fast forward, all this stuff, I get healed, believe it or not, didn't break anything. Everything is fine, but something wasn't right. And they put me on some balka.

When I was put on that drug, I'm telling you, I spent two months in bed trying to get off it. Nobody told me that I should have been on a, like, I can't remember. They told me I should have been on something. else to come off it. I just got off it 100%. There are ways to help get off, but the withdrawal is miserable. It feels like you have electric, electric

fire going up the back of your neck or into your forehead. You know, these zapping feelings, right? I couldn't be, right? I couldn't be in the light. I couldn't hear noise. I was dead written. You know, people must have thought I was left. So this went on for months, but I started

gaining weight. Again, I still kept my diet. I didn't change it. And anything. I just kept gaining weight, gaining weight, and I just couldn't lose the weight. I was probably about 30, 40 pounds overweight at the time. And being an athlete my whole life and very conscious of how I feel, I could not get rid of it. So we moved out of New Hampshire, going out of Florida, and I had to get out of here. And I go to Mayo Clinic, and I go to them, and I have them do all testing on me because I had just, like, fluttering in my chest. This is before everybody knew about AFib.

and they said to me, well, you got aphid. So in order for us to stop it, we have to do a cryo-ablation. So they went ahead and did that, and that was 2013, and believe it or not, from 2013, I have not ever been in the aphid again. But I kept getting away. It doesn't work the majority of times, but when it works, it works, it works very, very well. So that's good. So I'm going to try to pull us into the present.

So you tried GLP-1s, right? Right, okay. I tried, well, here's what happens. and I tried the GLP1. I went to weight doctors and seminars and I spent so much money and my body fat was coming off, my weight was coming off, but my water wasn't coming off. And I couldn't figure out, I still to the day, can't figure out why I can't deplete the water in my body. And so now I went on the-

What do you mean by water? What does that mean? Hang on a second, what do you mean by water? well like my body tends to hold water and the doctor recommended that I go on GLP1 even though I was in the diabetic and then I had stomach problems and my hair started to shed and that's freaky out. Yeah the stomach problems are miserable. Yeah. So I have a totally different suggestion for you. I have a completely different suggestion. Because you're someone that knows how to diet. You're not that overweight. You can't actually. exercise, there's a lot to be done for you in terms of non-medication-related intervention. But have you ever considered hormone replacement therapy, particularly testosterone?

Because I'm telling you that testosterone will make a huge difference. You have to be on estrogen and testosterone, but I would urge you to see someone that really understands hormone replacement does a lot of it. There's a group out there called biote, BIO. I've worked with over the years that is pretty good with this. They're sort of solid on it. Okay. You want to talk to somebody

who's been through something like this before? Yeah. You would like to? Yes, I would 100%. Biotte is the organization where you can get these hormone replacements. But meet Susan Pinsky. Susan, do you want to tell her what your experience was like?

I had metapause early and I was miserable for years and had, you know, and then also went on antidepressants when I had some like crazy years and went to therapy and my hair fell out from the antidepressants. But then I went on the hormones. Oh, God. She did biodentical pellets. Yes, bioidentical pellets. But what really made the difference was the testosterone for her. And I have a feeling you may be one of these people, the way you're describing it. So why don't you describe how different that was for you?

I've been on it for 15 years. And I feel great. I'm very strong. My bones are strong. My muscles are strong. The mood is completely resolved. All that stuff went away. Yeah, I'm not crazy.

I'm good. Don't get carried away. How do you know how much to get out? How do you know how much to be treated for? Do you have to be, you have to be, yeah, you have to let the doctor decide what, you know, what combinations and how many. Because women are all so different one from the other that, you know, everyone has kind of different reactions to these hormones. But you just sound to me like somebody who would really, really benefit from this. I mean, sometimes they just put you on progesterone.

Sometimes they'll add some testosterone to that. There's various ways to approach this. But you've got what it takes to get a lot better. if they give you the hormonal environment to do so. And I think that if you talk to find one of these biotee groups, I'm just recommending them because they're sort of a national chain essentially. But everyone I've spoken to, I spoke to another group in Florida, I think, or Texas last week. And I was impressed by the quality of the physicians and the nurses there.

So they seem to maintain a very high standard. And not all doctors know this issue, know how to do. do this. You really need people that have done it a lot. I've been through hell. I'm in Tennessee now. I've been through hell with doctors. And off the GLP one. Sorry? Yep. I'm looking.

The GLP ones are very dangerous. Susan's very much against that. I had a friend. Yeah, that's what I'm hearing. You know, and I'm concerned because I'm just not bouncing back to the way I was. and I am on a low dose of estrogen. My gynecologist has me on that, but very low. That's good.

That's helpful. But you may need more than that. Do you have a uterus still? Is your uterus still in place? Yes, I do. Yep. I never had children. I never had problems.

Metapause. I was easy, breezy. I was lucky, I think, because I was an athlete in my whole life. So I don't have the same internal. That's, that's, that's, that's, it's, exactly what made me think about this for you. I just found a place in Nashville that's a biotee provider on Benton Avenue. I don't know anything about them.

I'm just reaching for something that might help for you. I'm obviously not practicing medicine here. I'm not your doctor. I'm not making a formal recommendation. But it is something I want you to look into and then you work with your doctor decide. But I think this might be what you're looking for. Okay? Okay.

And you can watch me on YouTube. All right. woman attacked by a black bear in New Hampshire. What's it called? What's it called? Say it again? Woman attacked by a black bear in Santa Harbor, New Hampshire. And they all said I survived because I was from New York.

Forget about it. All right, Jackie, let us know how it goes. Thank you for calling in. Nobody survived. We really appreciate it. Nobody. Nobody just survives a bear attack. How are people call in?

I'm yelling at everybody on Rumble. We want some callers tomorrow. Okay. Some of our usual suspects. We can do a word for you right here on Ask Dr. No. Some of their usual suspects that, you know, we talk to all the time. It'd be nice to hear their voices.

I know. You know, so let's see. Okay. All right. Let's throw up the upcoming guest here. We're going to be at 2 o'clock tomorrow, our usual time. Let's see how I get back to the, there we go. John Spicer.

Brandon Straca, Ron Elfenbine, Patricia Heaton coming in next week with Eric Bowling, Kelly Victory coming back. Casey Gates said he's having an issue with water retention, but he's going back on biotag. Last time he was on it, he dropped 30 pounds. On the testosterone? Yes. Yeah, I wish I could take it. He's not crazy anymore either. So the one thing I would tell you is if you have prostate cancer, it's a very different situation.

It does not cause prostate cancer. By the way, I wanted to show you this kid that I got. Paleo sent me. I don't know. Do they have it yet? Well, I'm going to talk about it. Okay. This is a sleep product that I am extremely excited about because I have used it. And look, I would take it every night.

The only reason I do not take it every night is it has melatonin in it. And I develop what's called tachyflaxis to melatonin. It stops working. I start waking up early. So I have to take a few days off in between. if people have different feelings about melatonin that you educate yourself, make your own decision, but I like using it intermittently. Autumn was in here and she said when you take that sleep time protein, you will sleep.

So don't take it during the day. And I thought, well, that's pretty bold. But it tastes so good. You want to have it during the day. It's strawberry and cream. It really makes you sleep. I'm going to take it tonight. I guarantee it.

Good like a hot cocoa, you know, hot water and then just put a little bit of whipped cream. That's what I've done. That's what I was doing with it. And really, ooh. Good on its own, but I like to have that little extra. Right. Let me just look at you guys and the rants and things. Is there anything else going on?

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