Ask Dr. Drew - France Riots & Global Power Grabs: Dr. Kat Lindley, Freddie Ponton & Dr. Kelly Victory – Ask Dr. Drew – Episode 238

Episode Date: July 8, 2023

France has descended into chaos as protests and riots spread across the country and over 45,000 police descend upon the streets to quell unrest. Dr. Kat Lindley and Freddie Ponton discuss the increasing levels of distrust in governments and how global power grabs happen in times of instability. Dr. Kat Lindley is a Croatian-born, American-trained board-certified family physician with a direct primary care practice in Texas. Dr. Lindley is the President and co-founder of Global Health Project. Follow her at https://twitter.com/KLVeritas and read more at https://globalcovidsummit.org/ Freddie Ponton is an author, independent researcher, and journalist based in France who covers European politics, geopolitics and NATO, international criminal investigations, as well as corporate and military intelligence. Follow him at https://twitter.com/LFCNewsMedia and read more at https://21stcenturywire.com 「 SPONSORED BY 」 Find out more about the companies that make this show possible and get special discounts on amazing products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors • PRIMAL LIFE - Dr. Drew recommends Primal Life's 100% natural dental products to improve your mouth. Get a sparkling smile by using natural teeth whitener without harsh chemicals. For a limited time, get 60% off at https://drdrew.com/primal • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew • BIRCH GOLD - Don’t let your savings lose value. You can own physical gold and silver in a tax-sheltered retirement account, and Birch Gold will help you do it. Claim your free, no obligation info kit from Birch Gold at https://birchgold.com/drew • GENUCEL - Using a proprietary base formulated by a pharmacist, Genucel has created skincare that can dramatically improve the appearance of facial redness and under-eye puffiness. Genucel uses clinical levels of botanical extracts in their cruelty-free, natural, made-in-the-USA line of products. Get an extra discount with promo code DREW at https://genucel.com/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 The CDC states that COVID-19 vaccines are safe, effective, and reduce your risk of severe illness. You should always consult your personal physician before making any decisions about your health.  「 ABOUT the SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. 「 WITH DR. KELLY VICTORY 」 Dr. Kelly Victory MD is a board-certified trauma and emergency specialist with over 30 years of clinical experience. She served as CMO for Whole Health Management, delivering on-site healthcare services for Fortune 500 companies. She holds a BS from Duke University and her MD from the University of North Carolina. Follow her at https://earlycovidcare.org and https://twitter.com/DrKellyVictory. 「 ABOUT DR. DREW 」 For over 30 years, Dr. Drew has answered questions and offered guidance to millions through popular shows like Celebrity Rehab (VH1), Dr. Drew On Call (HLN), Teen Mom OG (MTV), and the iconic radio show Loveline. Now, Dr. Drew is opening his phone lines to the world by streaming LIVE from his home studio. Watch all of Dr. Drew's latest shows at https://drdrew.tv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We have a ton of show scheduled for you guys today. It's going to be very exciting. We first of all, well, after the first break, I'll be speaking to Dr. Kat Lindley when I bring Dr. Kelly Victory in as well. Dr. Lindley is a family practitioner with practice in Texas. And she is the president and co-founder of Global Health Project. You can follow her at klveritas,

as well as read more at the globalcovidsummit.org. We're going to get into what's been going on with the World Health Organization, in addition to a few other subjects around what went wrong, which is always what I'm asking myself. What happened there through COVID? I think it's coming into focus for people slowly. But because so much of this these days seems to be on an international scale, I thought I would bring in Freddie Ponton for a minute.

First part of the show, he's a French author, independent researcher, journalist, who covers European politics. He's going to help us also with the World Health Organization, but more importantly, help us understand what is going on in France and what we need to know, what we need to learn that he knows. We'll be right back to do so after this. Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre.

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politics, geopolitics, NATO, international criminal investigation, as well as corporate and military intelligence. You can follow him at Twitter, LFC News Media, LFC News Media, and read more of his work at 21st, the number is 21 with ST, 21st Century Wire. 21st Century Wire. Freddie, thank you for joining us. It's a pleasure being with you, Drew. It's great to be on the show. And I want to be sure to, you know, one of the reasons we brought Freddie up right now

is it is nine hours later in France, and we are trying to be kind to his schedule. So I appreciate you willing to come on and work with us, and, you know, it's midnight there in France and we are trying to be kind to his schedule. So I appreciate you willing to come on and work with us. And it's midnight there in France. So here we go. First of all, I heard you on a Twitter spaces and I just thought to myself, I actually reached out and said, we must speak to this gentleman. You had some very interesting insights of what was going on in France, but then at the end of, you know, sort of describing to us what you thought was going on there. And so I do have lots of questions there.

I know, why does it feel so familiar to what happened in this country? And why are these organizations like, I'm blanking on the name of the one that's out, help me somebody, Susan, the organization that is in the streets here so much. Anyway, why are they internationally? Al-Qaeda? No, no, no. Antifa? I mean, I'm sorry, Antifa. Antifa, thank you.

Why are organizations like Antifa having such international reach? Who is funding it? That's one question. And then I just want to sort of remind you at the end of the spaces I heard you on, you said something very provocative which was france is no longer republic and the whole government needs to be reorganized in such a way that the republic is re-established and i thought huh we could use a dose of that here as well so what's going on there and tell us a little more about how a republic can be

re-established as a republic, it's a very good question and very relevant question, Drew. And of course, I'm a patriot, so I love my country. The country has given me so much, and it's my time to give back. To be a patriot, you first need to have a nation. And I think since the last past 30 years, we've literally been losing control of our nation.

The European process has been a disaster for the French citizenry. And this is what I was referring to. I think it's important to have control not only of your borders, but the destiny of your nations. So if you have a political will and courage, clearly you need to be able to be in control of your policy, your currency, and perhaps your borders. So that's something very important to me.

And I was brought up with this kind of values. I come from a family that has a long history of France, fought in two world war. And they always told me, if you, if you want to be patriot, you need to have a nation, you need to have a country to defend. So that's my first priority. I've been away from France for a very long time, Drew. I've spent about 30 years of my life going around the world for work purposes and pleasure. And returning to France was quite a bit of a shock. And the first thing that comes to, obviously, that popped in my eyes was the lack of social cohesion in this country.

So I got very interesting. And I took the time to go on the street, speak to my brothers and sisters. It doesn't matter where they come from. I'm a man of color, but I grew up, all my family are white Christians, you know. So it didn't matter. I fit anywhere. And that's fine by me. So I, and it's also an advantage. It allows me to go to places that might some people find dangerous and others.

And I wanted to know what was going on. And my finding was absolutely shocking. And then obviously on top of that, the recent events that were also unfolding on the social media over the last past five days, which has really rocked France, but also captured the attentions of countries around the world, including the United States. And I was first of all wondering why the U.S. was so interested about these riots and what was going on. And very quickly I understood that the subject of immigration was a problem and also a topic of interest for the United States with the kind of extensive debates around the control of the border of the United States.

So it's very important because, you know, 40 years ago, we didn't know what was going on in the United States. And we currently now, at the speed of light, be able to exchange and clearly see our differences, but also the things that affect us the most as countrymen, as taxpayers, and as fathers and mothers and brothers. So I think it was very important for me to try to get to the bottom of this and trying to make sense of these riots, understanding exactly what we have been told. And that's why I'm here today.

And give us a little sort of sketch on what you have learned. And then if you could, for me, help me understand how this organization, Antifa, has become such a player in amplifying these events, both in France and the United States. Well, Antifa is become such a player in, in amplifying these events, both in France and the United States. Well, Antifa is not new. You see, you have to go back in the history and they've been there for quite some time.

They're well financed, they're well organized, and we found them all across Europe, not only in France and Germany, they're pretty much everywhere. They're active obviously in the United States, but this is part of the social engineering and this is part of also political engineering if you will. So to look at a problem like the riots and obviously the different participants, you really need to look at the problem through different lenses. Now, I love history, so the story of immigration in France is one of which I find interesting to try to understand if we can bring some answers looking at a history of immigration in France I'll be

very quick on that because I think it could be interesting for an American audience to understand but after the First World War in France you know 14 1918 we basically lost a lot of men's and we needed basically people to rebuild the country so we lost our. We took a lot of people from, you know, Spaniards, Portuguese, Italian, Jewish people from across the, you know, Eastern Europe. We had many people coming from all across Europe, helping us rebuild the countries. Many people were Caucasian, at least white in passing.

And it was very easy. A lot of people had a Catholic background. So it was a success story. A lot of people did extremely well for themselves. And it's not unusual to see today the grandson of these people being in politics or great successful entrepreneurs. So all in all, a very successful story. And then a second world war kicked in. Obviously, Samsonio lost a lot of people. Rebuilding the country was a big challenge, but this time over, they decided to go back to the old colonies and basically get the North African workforce and the sub-Saharan workforce. So we brought them into the country, and these are

very hard-working people. They had to go through, obviously, the hiccups of coming to a new nation, not being Catholic, being Muslim, with a very strong culture, a similar idea about family unity and cohesion, so that fits quite nicely with the French. But then, obviously, the large number of this population coming out of North Africa was thrown into factories. And they were very, very much part of the economic system of France, in the automotive industry and on and on.

I'll spare you the details. But what's really marking about the history is that until that such time, we didn't have any problem of social cohesion. Everything would gain on just fine. And that really take us to 1968. We all kind of a student revolution where our very strong, very rigid education system which provided basically the real value, the French value, which were basically sharing with this workforce with these

migrants, which were no migrants any longer. Many people have already a French passport. They've been very well assimilated in the economy and also in the social fiber. So we didn't have any problem, but the problem is the kids were out. They were no more at school after 1968. We lost that quality of education.

Obviously the strength, some people say it was too zealous and 1960 and open a complete new door a liberal door where kids were out and they were not at school and they're starting to be packed and literally assembling in this huge housing project on the suburb of large city like Paris Lyon Marseille and that's how it all started so So it didn't happen in a day, but it was progressives. It really was, you know, a step-by-step problem that started to obviously be appearance. So it's something that is the kind of thing that people talk about here. You'll hear people here say, we need to teach civics again.

We need to teach the ideas upon which, you know, this particular country was founded and i i think that's what i heard you saying about re-establishing the republic you know that you know bastille day is right upon us here and uh it seems like people don't think about really what happened there in those tennis courts or whatever they were when when they when they re-established uh the form of government that you have. And in this country, I don't know if this is happening over there as well, it's all been dismissed as irrelevant because it's a bunch of old men, many of whom own slaves, therefore we shouldn't listen to them,

we can't listen to them. It has no relevance to today's world. Are you hearing that kind of stuff in France as well? Well, we certainly hear it in the United States and it's, uh, it's appalling to, to see what's happening. Uh, obviously we were very conservative naturally in France. It doesn't matter whether you left or right, you can still be very conservative. You know, we, we have no issue with that dichotomy, but really what we are looking

at at the moment is a different it's a complete different scenario from what you're having what you're having was creating it's it's really men created it is a political agenda where in France is slightly different it is actually a lack of political courage and the last past four or five administrations have been kicking the can to the next administration they basically washed their hands about the problem in this really troubled neighborhoods and they didn't want to address the problem. No political courage, no investment whatsoever.

Although we have a lot of public private partnership in France, as you know, a lot of people are interested in supporting the presidential campaigns, but when it is the time to put money into this neighborhood, there's no bonnet to be made. So that's what's nothing is happening. Nobody wants to take the responsibility. Nobody wants to open the dialogue. And it's only a matter of time, you know, if we left this problem unattended, that is going to basically come back and bite us in our house. So first time it happened in 2005. Some of you might remember there's a huge amount of travel in France, a lot of riots, 9,000 cars, a lot of millions, millions of destructions. And

the government should have really addressed the problem at a time. They just didn't. It's a complete makeup because nobody's interested in this problem. And do you have any ideas on how to find your way out? What's that, Caleb? Are you talking to me? No, that wasn't me, sorry. Did I hear Caleb jump in here? Okay.

What are the kind of solutions that are out there? I mean, the riots themselves clearly don't do anything. They've been happening for 15, 18 years. Zero progress, only further decay or further descent into more of these kinds of difficulties. What, what's the solution. I think it's, it has to be a solution that comes from a different angle. It obviously the, uh, the obvious angle is, is, is from the government.

That that's why governments are governments are here for, to address these kind of issues which affect the security, the safety, and obviously we need to have some form of guarantee that this will not happen again. So the government has a big part to play in that. And to understand the response of our governments, which we were expecting them to come up with some kind of solutions or ideas or saying, well, we're going to actually have to address this problem. And I think you also on social media that they're not going to be addressing these problems, but rather clamping down on social media and internet.

And, uh, I'll give you a couple of details about eliminating, yeah, eliminating a civil liberties. That that's a great solution solution we've seen how that worked through a pandemic beautiful job everybody my god so last thing uh so we're gonna be talking about the world health organization and this now this now uh what should we call it a meta organization that wants to usurp liberties and civil liberties in particular when the next pandemic comes around what are people feeling in France about that well terrible obviously we have had a terrible experience with COVID-19 and I'm sure you guys went pretty much for the same tyranny but at the end of the day it's a it's it's a

big question yeah it's it's a much bigger question than just a pandemic treaty. We're looking at a power grab coming from supranational and really some very high up group, whatever you want to call them, cabal or not, but they're extremely well organized, extremely well financed. And they're not interested in asking. They're going to take what they want. And they've planned that for a very long time. I've happened to actually do a very extensive investigation on the COVID-19 response in the

United States and the COVID-19 response in Europe. And nobody has ever heard of the COVID-19 response in Europe and how militarized it was and how NATO was involved. A lot of things that's very interesting to talk about it, but that's going to be for another show probably. But what's interesting is... Let's plan that. I think we should plan that. And that's what we will do.

Today, we're going to talk to Kat Lindley about some of the details of this whole thing. But yeah, it's just my last point is that when I was in Paris a year and a half ago, the youth were in the streets demonstrating against the mandatory jabs because they were saying, hey, this is you told us this thing's not going to hurt us. And now you're going to force us to take a vaccine. That is not a that's not the founding principle of this country. And I literally had a ticket as I was leaving France.

I was at a United ticket counter. This young woman got off behind the counter and says, you don't understand. It's important. Liberté. It's important. It's a founding principle. Are people still that fired up in France? More than ever.

Probably more than I've ever seen, actually. I mean, we're fighting back, and we're not going to let that happen. So that global treaty is not going to happen with us, I can tell you straight. I have some of my colleagues actually yesterday in Brussels talking about that. So it's, no, we're going to put a fight to them. All right, well, thank you.

You leave us with a positive thought. I rarely feel optimistic after finishing my interviews, but today I've left with a, so far I'm a little bit positive. We'll see what Kat does to me. All right, Freddie, thanks so much. And we'll bring you back to talk more about the covid response in europe and hear more about that okay you bet thank you so much freddie

ponton again you can follow him at lfc news media on twitter and 21st century wire.com coming up kat lindley she is uh as i said a family practitioner, primary care practice in Texas. She's president and co-founder of Global Health Project. Hang on. Oh, yeah, of course, Kelly Victory is coming in here with her as well. You can follow Kat at klveritas and read more at globalcovidsummit.org. So we'll bring Dr. Kelly Victory in here and Dr. Kat Lindley right after this. I suspect you've seen Susan and I gushing over Paleo Valley products. We love the taste and how well they fit into a paleo-based nutrition regimen. They're

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Some platforms have banned the discussion of controversial topics. If this episode ends here, the rest of the show is available at drdrew.tv. There's nothing in medicine that doesn't boil down to a risk-benefit calculation. It is the mandate of public health to consider the impact of any particular mitigation scheme on the entire population. This is uncharted territory, Drew. Please welcome Dr. Kelly Victory and joining us as well, Dr. Kat Lindley. Ladies, thank you so much. And Kelly, I'll let you drive a little bit here. Terrific, Kat. Thanks so much for joining us. We've been looking forward to this show for a long time, and that was a great lead-in, actually, that conversation with Freddie Ponton, because I wanted to start today with talking, you were the very first person who brought to my

attention this pending issue with the World Health Organization, namely this interest of theirs and potentially of multiple governments around the world in essentially abdicating control of their own public health to the World Health Organization in the times of crisis. The reason I want to start with that is because what Freddie was talking about, this very natural, normal desire that I think for most people who are patriotic to want to maintain and defend the cultures of their own country, to the identities of their own country, not only control their borders, but as Freddie said, control their policies and their cultures. And certainly, you know, in my mind, and I hope perhaps in yours and Drew's as physicians,

to control the health of our own countries and our countrymen, which are not necessarily the same as in other countries. So I want to start by giving you the opportunity to explain and lay terms for those people who might not be fully aware of what's going on right now with the WHO. What is this treaty that we are talking about and how does it tie into this power grab that we've just been discussing with Freddie? Thank you for having me, by the way. So I would like to actually say there are two things we have to worry about. It's not only the treaty, but it's also the amendments to the international health regulations. Both of those instruments are trying to give more power to WHO. And what we've experienced for the past three years

will be kind of to the nth degree because what Joe would like to do is have this opportunity to keep us in this perpetual state of some kind of emergency response. And with that, they would have the power to actually implement whether we have new vaccine mandates, lockdowns,

and to increase this whole bureaucracy of their own by demanding that each country has to give 5% of their healthcare budget to WHO. It's very important to know that if this passes and the voting on this is going to be in May of next year, the countries, in my opinion, do give up their sovereignty because you would have this organization that has nothing to do with our representation, actually dictating how any country responds to next emergency. And we talk about mandates and what happened this past three years is going to be a lot worse. Yeah, well, I think, you know, one of the things that that really strikes me is that, first of all, their tagline for this WHO business and these treaties is one globe, one health. The idea that we are all the same. So it takes the very essence of patriotism, of love of country, of commitment to your fellow countrymen. You know, we just were one day after our Independence Day here in the United States,

you know, where we are celebrating those people who lived and died and gave their blood and sweat and tears to create this country for what it is, to break away from another whose values it did not share and to create our own country and to stand on our own. When you start talking about this idea, hang on one second, that we are all the same, that all of the sudden when it comes to health, that all bets are off and we all have the same values, the same tolerance for risk, the same tolerance for giving up our civil liberties, the same tolerance for risk, the same tolerance for giving up our civil liberties, the same tolerance for allowing someone else to make decisions for us. Those are not equivalent.

What we do here in the United States is quite different from what they're willing to tolerate in Canada, our very closest neighbor, let alone what they're willing to tolerate in places like China or much of Asia or even Africa. So isn't it really a way of trying to say that we are all going to be ultimately equivalent, equal playing ground when it comes to our health? And if I could pile on top of that really quickly, they are also adding to that the notion that the human being has no privilege relative to other mammals, other animals. There's this, I don't know if you're aware of that, but there's this, I forget it's called One Health or something.

It's a bizarre aphorism they have for it, where literally not only is your national sovereignty not an issue, your cultural predilection is not an issue. You as a human being are given no special privilege. It's really uncanny. Yeah, i was actually going to bring that up one health is uh this new agenda and you can take that from two different uh point of view one is exactly what you're saying dr drew for them one health means that human plants and uh the earth have the same exact rights. There was actually a conference in Ireland about two, three weeks ago where they discussed, I wouldn't call them civil rights, but they discussed rights of plants, right? And, you know, and then if you take this from the physician point of view, you know,

this patient-physician relationship is probably the most sacred relationship we share. And we have to look at our patients as individuals. We have to discuss what really means to them, anything we decide when it comes to treatment or any type of care. So to have WHO with this one health agenda say that we're all equal and one size fits all, we know that never worked in medicine. And that was one of the problems that happened during the pandemic. And Kelly, you know my story. I grew up in Yugoslavia and Croatia. And you can look at this from this patriotic point of view as well.

We need to truly start being love our country we need to really start uh thinking of our country uh as how much it has given to all of us and be proud of it you know and to give up the rights of american citizens to who and they just recently uh WHO and United Nations brought, I believe it was Iran to Human Rights Council. It was one of those countries that we always wonder how they treat their own citizens. To have these other representatives decide how our patients, how our people are going to live, honestly, it's idiotic for lack of better word and i think you know we need men better of our representatives i i recently just um um gave a testimony to the

hhs last week about this pandemic treaty and the fact that we as americans should not be giving our sovereignty and our medical decision-making to WHO. And that's really important to make sure that our legislators understand that Americans, American physicians and patients, we can decide what's best for our families and for ourselves. And, you know, I had the opportunity to interview Michelle Bachman on this very issue. She's a former representative.

And she says she goes to Washington and cannot get any attention on this issue. They seem not to care. She is quite exercised about it. Kelly, you wanted to say something. Well, I was going to say, I feel like this entire pandemic was a way of paving the way towards this. Because, and I've said many times times of all the errors that were made during this pandemic, and that's a long list from which to choose, the greatest error was truly them acting, meaning the powers that be, the CDC, FDA, and all the public health officials,

acting as if everyone was at equivalent risk from COVID-19, when we knew from the very beginning that that was not the case. The vast majority of people were at no risk whatsoever. But there's this overwhelming need all of a sudden in the United States, and it sounds like in France and elsewhere, to act as if we are all equivalent. We are all on level playing grounds. In all respects. In all respects, exactly, including things like health care, where that is the furthest thing from the truth. We know that we have to stratify people's true risks from any given thing.

My risk of developing diabetes is not the same as Drew's. My risk of developing lots of things or my concern for things is not the same as yours, Kat. You know, you have many children, I don't have children. There are things that we are all individuals and this entire thing, it seems to me that the pandemic, if you boiled it down, was a way to rid people of their individuality, i.e. wear a mask,

have no facial expression, stay apart from one another, and act as if we are all in the same boat and must all be treated identically. And that is anathema to what I was trained as a physician and what you were trained as a physician, that we are supposed to take into account all of the intricacies of the nuance of that individual patient, his or her own personality, history, medical issues, religion, risk tolerance, and all of these things, culture, all of these things. And all of the sudden, this to me seems like it was one big plan to lead us up to this power grab.

You are far more versed in this, Kat, than I am. What is your sense about the likelihood of this actually happening, these treaties or these amendments actually taking place and taking hold? Oh, I think we, have we lost Kat? Oh, goodness. You and I can sit here and we'll get her back, I'm sure. But you and I can sit here and rail about this for a while because this is what we've been she needs to refresh we sort of started with you and i kelly like huh this doesn't seem right this over centralization if you remember of medicine was the first thing i saw then the complete relinquishing of our job go home till your po2 is 85 and then

call me maybe then or maybe you know call an ambulance to bring you back to the ER. I mean, this was astonishing. And then people who have no business with a vote in how we practice medicine suddenly having incredible opinions about lockdowns and these medications that you and I have been using for years that they just learned how to pronounce. They never heard of before, and yet now they have over-the-top opinions about how they should be deployed. This was disgusting. And the fact that that's not sort of seen throughout the land is very hard for me to understand.

How people can still defend what went on there is kind of astonishing to me. Why do you think it is the case that there are still people that go, oh, well, they just, you know, we didn't have much information. We didn't know. We did the best we could. We did know. We knew a lot. And we seem to specifically overlook it because it meant saying old people are higher risk. Young people are not a risk.

That's not equity. We can't say it. Exactly. And one of the things that I find fascinating, Drew, not even being allowed to differentiate between people who had and recovered from COVID, those people who had natural immunity, we couldn't even allow those people to be their own class. Everyone had to be the same. And this is happening, you'll recall, the juxtaposition of this, this overwhelming desire for equity. We all must be the same.

We all must be treated the same. We all must have the same risk and have the same treatment. This is happening in juxtaposition to the exact same time when socially we must allow people to be totally individual, to determine their gender, to determine their species, to determine whether or not they want to be gender binary or fluid. Whatever. Yeah, it's weird. It's very strange. It's a very, very strange time culturally that at the same time we are suggesting this absolutely amorphous sense of who people are and what they can be and actually even what, as I said, gender or species they are, that at the same time we are demanding we almost be the same.

It's very odd. So Kat, you're back. So Jay, jump in and take off wherever we left you. Sorry, I'm actually at the beach in Galveston. So the internet has been kind of crazy. That's exactly the point. They don't want us to be individuals. They don't want us to feel we're Americans, we're French, we're Italian, we're Croatians.

They want us to have this global world that they can control. And just going back for a minute to pandemic treaty and the IHR amendments, the reason Michelle Bachmann has a hard time when she goes to D.C. is because most legislators will just say our Constitution is going to protect us. I hope it does. I really hope it does. I hope that there is... It didn't protect us from the excesses

of this whole thing. They did not protect us. It's a glitch. The health emergency is a glitch in the Constitution. And unless we manage that glitch, laws or court cases, whatever it is, and we are, you know, our friend Aaron Cariotti had some success this week with his Missouri versus Biden, where, you know,

now the Biden administration is not allowed to, at least for the moment, be able to muscle the social media companies. That's Aaron Cariotti. That's a psychiatrist who was the head of bioethics at UC Irvine who was fired because he said, I have to live it like I've spoken it my entire career, and I do not believe vaccine mandates are bioethically defensible. Fired, out, out. Fired, summarily.

Point being, this glitch has got to be fixed and so to say the constitutions can protect us is is an asthma as you said kelly it's exactly how we got into this problem yeah and then i agree with that just so you know i did yeah i was just gonna say i agree with that when we lost when we lost the feed the question I had asked you was, what is your sense for the likelihood of this treaty and these amendments actually getting put into due practice? Where are we? I feel they're going to be passed. I feel that May of 24, the WHA assembly is actually going to vote for them and pass them. And then we're going to

have to deal with the amendments to the IHR, which are already part of an international law. And we're going to have to deal with the pandemic treaty, which gets ratified through the Senate. There are several bills right now in Senate and Congress that are dealing specifically with this. And one of the appropriations committees decided to not give any money to WHO. Those are all good steps forward. The problem is our own administration, the HHS, are the ones that are pushing for these amendments and are lobbying for these things. And if you actually watch the news, President Biden encourages the president of the EU, I forget her name always, but he wants her to be a successor in NATO. So all of these things are very related,

need to be watched very closely because UN is actually promoting the CBDC. So if you have this pandemic treaty and IHR amendments where you can have the direct, if he thinks there is some kind of emergency, he can call it emergency of healthcare concern. initiative on how these things are run, whether it's again, mandates, vaccines, treatments, and things like that. When you combine this global health digital passport that they just adopted from EU with the UN initiative on CBDC, we are really not that far from the social credit scoring system of China. Some people will say we are alarmist. I truly don't think we are. You just have to watch the global scene and global scene is very scary right now. Yeah. Well, I have long been on the record for saying, Drew, you know, I've said it many times in this show that from my perspective, the WHO is the long arm of the Chinese Communist Party. There's no question.

The WHO being headed by not a real doctor, Dr. Tedros Ghebreyesus, who has a horrible, horrible pedigree himself. He's a terrorist. He's aligned with many, many despicable organizations. But from your perspective, again, Kat, who is leading this? Where is this coming from? It's not Dr. Tedros by himself, and it's not solely the Chinese Communist Party. Who is driving this agenda? is you have to watch public-private partnerships, right? Bill Melinda Foundation, Gavi Foundation, WEF initiatives, all of this is working

very, very closely together. And you just have to follow the money at the end of it and see that everything's intertwined. Whether it's coming from WEF, whether it's coming from WHO or UN, they're all working together and it all has to do with money and who's going to control the most of it. I don't understand, though, how it is that somebody bright, like Bill Gates, can look at the pandemic in this country

and our response and our excesses and the failures and look at that and go, boy, we just need more better versions of that and more centralized and more powerful. I can't get my head around that. What am I missing other than power grab and some sort of money making, whatever? I don't believe Bill Gates needs more money. I don't think that's his motivation, but I do not understand what he's thinking, how we can look at what happened here

and think more of that, please. Some people just want the power. It's really hard to tell what they're looking for, but what they're looking for is this global centralization where they control how every aspect of life is going to happen, and that's why you have to look at the One Health agenda. One Health agenda exactly has to do with that.

Did you feel in any way more, did you feel, just a quick thing, did you feel any more, any positive feeling in hearing Freddie's interview a half hour ago where he said the French are not going to put up for this, they're going to fight back? Do you A, believe that, or B, did it give you a feeling that maybe some countries in the EU are going to not stand for this? Actually, I was in European Parliament in Brussels. I think we were there in May. I forget. My dates are getting all blurred. But we actually testified in the European Parliament

regarding the COVID response response around the world. And I do have hope because I feel that people have had it, whether it's in Europe, whether it's United States, France. Actually, you know, it's kind of hard to see the rise. But at the same time, they give me hope because people have had enough. I kind of hope that Americans start feeling the same way. You know, I think one of the reasons Americans didn't respond as strongly maybe as other countries is because I don't think anyone realized that for me, this was never about vaccine, about mask, about lockdowns. It was never about that. It was always about mandate because the fact that a country like America would actually require something of all of its citizens so that they can have a job, provide for their family, always felt

like an attack on freedom. And I don't think Americans have ever been felt attacked even when you talk about World War II Americans fought the war in Europe or in Pacific I understand Hawaii was attacked but the American soil the

Midwest or something was never attacked and I don't think Americans understood that this whole pandemic, that was probably one of the things that we had to stand up for was the freedom. The fact that they came after us, not with guns, but with these mandates. And I am seeing the people all over have had enough and they are starting to remember who America is. You know, I've written several pieces, is republic dying? And at times it does feel that it is when you open the news and you look what happens in New York or

in California and these other places, you wonder how have we allowed this, especially when it comes to our children and things like that. But then, you know, you go to beach in Galveston and you watch 4th of July fireworks and you sit there, you know, around the table and speak to your neighbors and you realize that more and more Americans are remembering who they are. Boy, I think that's true. But, you know. Boy, I'm sure from your look to God's ears. Yeah, I agree with that, Kelly. But she didn't, you know, Kat, you were in Texas, not California during this thing.

And trust me, it was about lockdowns and masks and other things because California went berserk for years over this. I've been spending a lot of time in Texas too. And it's compared to California, it's almost like it didn't happen. So that's part of the reason the U.S. is sort of not as universally exercised about this because it was a state by state experience, which is our strength, but it also shows where things can run off the rail. I also think, and the reason your conversation, Drew, with Freddie resonated with me is because

Freddie was talking about reinstilling understanding of civics. If people do not understand where we came from, and unfortunately, most people, we are of a certain age, the three of us on this call, but the people under the age of, say, 35 or 40, I think have a very, very poor rudimentary and best understanding of what it was that led us to a revolutionary war. What it was that led us, you know, led people to be willing to die, to die for a concept, to die for a concept. And that's what it was. I tweeted yesterday that a significant majority of the signers of the Declaration of Independence ended up dead at the hands of the British or their family dead or their their or their homes and businesses destroyed. They would suffer dire consequences. I think our country thinks these guys just signed

a piece of paper went well that'll be that now we're just going to wait this out and uh pretty soon the french will come and save us and that'll be the end of it this is in this is we have to get a grip on who we are and where we've come from including our including our horrible behaviors including things that are reprehensible we We've forgotten about reconstruction. We need to learn about that and how just atrocious that was. There's a lot of stuff we have to reconcile with. Some good, some not good at all.

But if people don't remember that we fought, that people fought and died and died for a concept and were willing to fight for those liberties all those years ago, they certainly aren't going to be willing

to do it again if they think there's think, oh, it's just a vaccine. Oh, it's just social distancing. And they don't understand really what is going on here, that this is about ridding you, ripping your civil liberties from you. Yet, I want to change directions for a little bit because I'm watching the clock lying down. You and I had a conversation on the phone not that long ago and relative to something that you and I have both been tweeting about and I've talked about quite a bit, which is start with the idea of accountability. I have been very critical of my fellow physicians. I've been very, very critical of people who did things and said things and bought into stuff during this pandemic that I thought was insane.

And I've been very critical of everything from the idea of other physicians promoting masks or this idiocy of social distancing and lockdowns and all of the closing schools and then on to the vaccines. You have taken a little bit softer, gentler, more, perhaps a, what's the word, more gracious approach to our colleagues and have given them maybe an exit strategy, a way out, a way to save face. Let's talk a little bit about that, your approach to physicians who, in my mind, were largely

culpable or complicit in this pandemic debacle and how you see it. So I'll just share a little bit of my story. For me, when the whole thing started, I actually did have that first patient that came to the emergency room who was very sick, and it was a very unusual presentation. She said, I have a sinus infection. And then I'm looking at her SATs, and her oxygen saturation was very low. She was in the 80s, but she was speaking like a normal person. And this was like when we were starting to see a lot of COVID things on TV and, you know, the fear campaign coming from China and from New York. And I do remember I ended up sending her to the ER.

And next thing when I came on a shift next day, I heard that she passed away in the ICU. So, you know, I had that fear of what's happening. You know, I was coming home in the middle of the night because I was doing 12 hour shifts to my family and my kids. And my little one was sometimes, you know, coming to sleep in bed. And I was like, oh my gosh, what am I bringing home to my family? And then watching the TV, the ticker with the death rates going up and a lot of people fainting on the streets of China, a lot of fear. And I was talking to a friend of ours, you'll know who she is, Kimberly Corby in Pennsylvania, also direct primary care physician. And we were talking late at night, almost every night about what to do about our patients. And she goes to me, Kat, you're having, you know, flashbacks.

And I thought about it for a moment. And then I realized really what I was seeing is this fear, you know, this propaganda, and kind of took me back to, you know, the way I grew up under communism and things like that. And then the other thing that didn't make sense to me was, as a physician, you know, both of you will say the same thing. We are supposed to be that first line.

Whatever is happening, you go in, you figure it out, you treat your patients, and do the best you can. But we were told not to do anything, to tell them to stay home unless they can breathe and go to the ER and things like that. So that never made sense. And then the final nail in the coffin for me was CDC and masks. Early on, they told us to wear the full outfit and then they ran out of it. So they said, wear N95 mask. And then they ran out of that. So they said surgical mask. And at one point, they actually went with bandanas. And I think both of you know, when you work in a hospital, they make us try with that helmet on whether our mask is fitting or not. So they spray the saccharin inside and if you can taste the saccharin, the mask is not fitting, right? So those things happened really early on

for me to really see beyond what's going on. So my journey to this was early. I started reading, you know, I know we were on call Kelly with other physicians and reading the papers about how to treat. And I pretty much started doing my job, kept my head underwater and just, you know, did my thing. And later on, I started speaking out more. But what we recognize is that not every physician came to this journey at the same time. And, you know, trying to hit them over the head with too much truth at once, I think the best thing that we can do is share our stories so that they recognize themselves and hopefully start realizing that CDC is broken, that NIH studies that are coming out are biased,

that some of these things like you guys both mentioned, we need to look at the patient and not say one size fits all. None of that made any sense. But my hope is with this Global Health Project videos that we're doing, that they will recognize themselves in the story of six healthcare providers and start seeing that we need to step out of this matrix because this matrix is not really helping the ones that we are supposed to help, and that's our patients. So the different stories you tell, if I understand, you've got six different

healthcare providers who talk about how it is that they came to understand that much of the pandemic was propaganda, that much of it was based on fear, that the vast majority of it was frankly a lie, that we were being told lies by the CDC, the FDA, and the powers that be, that social media had been co-opted, that the agencies had been bought. And so these different stories, these are six different healthcare providers talking very openly and honestly about how they essentially were initially duped or bought into it, and then came to an understanding of what the reality was. Does that pretty much summarize it? It is.

And there are two goals that we're trying to accomplish. I hope we accomplish. One is for physicians to see and recognize themselves in it and kind of maybe say, you know what, these colleagues have been honest and I can see what's happened and I'm ready to step out. Even if they don't come out to speak out, that's totally fine as long as they're doing the best they can for their patients. So the point is this will happen again. In my opinion, this was just an exercise for them to see how far can they get away, how far can they push the world. So we need

to be ready for this next pandemic. So physicians have to truly realize, they have to remember that Hippocratic Oath, right? Why did we go into medicine? We went into medicine to help people and to truly be advocates for our patients. So one goal is physicians, healthcare providers to try to maybe step away from that fear and recognize that the system is broken. But the other one is also patients. I would like for them to say, you know what, this doctor, I don't agree with him or her, and I'm going to look for someone who actually shares my values. The reason I practice direct primary care is because I realized that my job is to keep my patients healthy. Because if I keep them healthy,

then they don't have to come to see me every so often. If they take care of themselves and take charge of their lives, then that's the best that they can do for themselves. So I want patients to recognize that the same way you go shop for a car, you look at different things, shop for a doctor, find someone that you like, find someone that shares exactly the same values. If you have questions, are they going to treat you if something happens, ask them now. If you have questions about vaccines, ask them what are their feelings about vaccines. You guys talked about statins, talked about diet, how important it is that we take care of ourselves. Those are things that I'm hoping these videos are going to accomplish. Because my concern, and I really appreciate what

you're doing, because my concern has been this and the way that we treat our fellow physicians. There will be a next thing. It's going to happen again. Sooner than anyone cares to admit it's going to happen again. And I have been very fixated, perhaps, and maybe too much so, in forcing people to acknowledge that they were duped, that they were wrong, because I find the excuse that, well, we didn't know then. We did what we did because we didn't know blank. We didn't know at the time about COVID or we didn't know. And I keep saying, I'm not going to give you that cop out. We've known for decades that masks don't stop the spread of respiratory viruses. We've known for decades

that lockdowns do more harm than good. We knew from the beginning that children were not at risk. We were not all at equivalent risk. So I've been sort of focusing on not giving people that cop-out, if you will, because I'm terrified that when it happens again, what stops them from doing the same thing? Oh, it's another novel virus. Guess we start back and start doing a bunch of silliness again because, quote, we don't know, and then that we end up living this again. So what's your take on that?

How do we avoid living this again if people don't acknowledge that they just made silly decisions out of fear? So you're right. I come from a different point of view. And you and I have known each other even before COVID because we both fought for the independence of practice in medicine. I truly think that that's the only way that we can empower physicians to actually represent the patient and become their advocates. In the United States, we practice corporate practice of medicine. Every time you have a physician who's employed by a hospital or a system or a large group, they kind of have to practice those rules. But also we have to recognize that we've been indoctrinated

from our medical school. You know, I've been using this analogy recently a lot. It's almost as if you're reading a Bible and you come to the end and someone tells you, you know what, Jesus is not your savior. He doesn't exist. That's kind of where we are now with this whole vaccine debate. You know, this whole dialogue that RFK Jr. is bringing forth. Or even the whole statin debate. You know, a friend of mine, Molly Rutherford, who is in the video, she shared today on Twitter. She read a book about ADHD and how ADHD is really a bogus diagnosis. And are we giving too much riddle into children?

There's so many things in medicine that we haven't realized that we've been indoctrinated with from the beginning. And I think we have to give, not permission, I hate that word, but we have to give people grace to find their own way, their own like I told you for me bandana was totally that was it that was yeah yeah it was like when ready and also do you know another one was actually the governor from Michigan when she said that you cannot buy seeds and go outside and plant them and I was like don't they eat vitamin D it's like there is so stupid things when I knew that it had nothing to do with health it had to do with their seek for power and right so I think by sharing our stories and I know you know this because you've been fighting for independent practice of medicine for a long time if we empower more and more physicians to

actually leave the system itself and become independent and start practicing whichever way they want but start kind of unplugging themselves from this matrix because that's the matrix that's telling them you know when you graduate from medical school you have this much this many loans but you have to come work for the hospital we're going to give you i don't know 250 000 but if you want to send your patient for the labs or for x-rays you have to send them to this place or things like that those are those chains that keep us locked in and you and then you start seeing a patient just like a number once you lose that human touch that physical connection to actually seeing a person in front of lose that human touch, that physical connection to actually seeing a person in front of you, that's when you actually sold your soul. So you are very upfront.

I'm a lot more gentler. So between us, I'm hoping we can get more and more of our colleagues. You know, though, but a couple of things I want to say is Kat mentions indoctrination. You need look no further than the opioid crisis, which was this massive example of the indoctrinary process and how it goes bad for patients. All you need, as I've said, Kelly, many times, is an evangelical physician at the helm getting the compliance of the regulatory agencies and the agencies that, you know, the hospital accreditation organizations, VA, somebody gets into them, then it's all over. And this exact same thing happened in COVID. But to your point, Kelly, about masks not stopping the spread in viral illnesses, good news, lead article in the New England Journal just came out.

They're advocating for universal routine masking in a healthcare setting because people at risk could get viruses, you know. We're laughing, but it's like that's what we're up against. It's like everybody with COPD is going to wear a mask all the time. What are we saying? And what are we doing to people's lives? It's just unbelievable. And one last thing is that Kat said something I just, I almost had to mute my mic and laugh at, but, and I have mixed feelings about it when she said, well, when it comes to our peers, we don't want to give them too much truth at once. That's your quote, too much truth at once. And I thought, no, no, I do. I do want to give them too much truth at once, but I understand what you meant. I understand there are softer, kinder ways to persuade. Yeah.

You know, I wish we could, but once, you know, we're talking about one size fits all doesn't work, right? So it's going to work for every one of us. We have to kind of lead them to water and allow them to realize that my really, my true hope is that they remember why they became physicians. And I think all three of us became physicians because we're trying to help an individual. We're not trying to help the system. We're trying to help this one person. And that's really important. But, you know, training physicians differently.

I worry about some of our younger peers. No one has used my name and the word diplomatic in the same sentence. So perhaps diplomacy is not amongst my skill set. But I want to use the last couple of minutes because what we were talking about before we came on, Kat, the three of us were talking about, for me, and this is a serious issue, a true existential crisis where I find myself as a physician, I have now learned through this COVID debacle that much of what we have been told in medicine has been propaganda. Much of what we have read in the storied medical journals, the Lancet, JAMA, British Medical Journal actually was nothing more, turns out, than marketing materials for Big Pharma.

It wasn't just opiates, Drew. It wasn't just AZT back in the AIDS epidemic. It's statin drugs. It's all kinds of things. There's a reason why Big Pharma doesn't want you to know just how beneficial vitamin D is, that getting your vitamin D levels up actually protects people against all kinds of things. And they don't want you to know that because it doesn't make money for the pharmaceutical

companies. So the question that I would throw out to both of you, and to you particularly, Kat, as someone in the independent practice of medicine, how do you sort it out? How are you making sense of what you've been taught? Whether it's about vaccines, about use of blood pressure medications, diet, exercise, what are you telling your patients and what do you trust and what don't you trust in what you previously believed was your body of science, of truth? I've been a little bit lucky in that regard because I've always, you know, I'm a DO, so I've been taught from the beginning to practice body, mind, and spirit, the person as a whole, to always look at why something is happening and not just to, you know, give them

medication for it. So my approach to medicine has always been a little bit natural. Plus, you know, coming from a Terranian, I always felt that we are what we eat and things like that, right? What we do. And so I've always approached it in a very holistic way. But I agree with you. It's been a really journey for me as well, even with vaccines, right? Are they all bad? Are some of them good? What do I do? But one thing that I've always done is listen to my patient and then just found a comfort zone for both of us and work from that point. Well, I really appreciate what you're doing. I appreciate you joining us here. And just so you know, the way this entire show got started was really because Drew made this platform available for me to invite guests of my choice and for us to have these robust, open dialogues, this debate. Physicians don't

agree on everything, but this is absolutely how we as a profession, we as people, as practitioners, come, I believe, to the best decisions in medicine. I've learned a ton from Drew over these shows. I've learned a ton from you on all of our phone calls. I learned from all of these unbelievable selfless physicians who have participated in the different initiatives that you and I have worked on, Kat. And so I appreciate you being willing to share this and this approach you're taking with

the storytelling and hopefully getting physicians out there, Drew, to understand this was a mess and let's not do it again. And Kat, if you wouldn't mind, tell people where they can go to read more? Is it the summit? Is that the group? Katlin Leigh, So you can find our videos and stories on global health project.org. I do some writings on global COVID summit.org. And you can find me on Twitter at KL very does where I try to be good.

John Greenewald, most does where I try to be good most of the time. Most of the time. You don't get kicked off. No, you're good. I work with Kelly Victory. You seem pretty good, Kat. You seem like you're okay with as far as escalating things.

But thank you, Kat. We appreciate it and I hope you'll come back again sometime soon. Thank you for having me. You gotcha. Thanks very it. And I hope you'll come back again sometime soon. Thank you for having me. You got it. Thanks very much. And Kelly, we, you and I next week,

uh, uh, Dennis. Yeah. Yes. Really looking forward to hearing about. Well, Dennis and I share a,

you know, yeah. Dennis and I share a common, uh, belief that much of this was done again, as similar to what we're talking about today, as a great power grab, that there really was no pandemic crisis other than the one that was created for the benefit of the powers that be. Not that the virus doesn't exist, but that there was no real emergency. They created and fabricated and orchestrated one. And then we've got Mike Yadin coming the following week. He is just brilliant.

Yep. And he'll be really terrific. And then we've got Steve Kirsch and Joseph Freeman, who authored the big study, retrospective study, looking back at the incidents of serious adverse events related to the vaccines. And his data is really quite stunning with regard to, I believe, I believe his conclusion and the conclusion of the data, not his personal,

but when they analyze the data was that one out of 800 people had a serious adverse event from the vaccine. So we'll be diving into all that. Great. Thank you, Kelly. And then on Friday, I'll be having Chef Gruel in here. I heard him talking to Viva Fry, and I thought, wow, what a story. I got to get him in here.

And Mark McDonald, psychiatrist who talks about mass formation, I may have to adjust that because I'm traveling next week, and I'm having a colonoscopy next week. Everybody get your colonoscopy. I'm walking the walk, as they say. And so the schedule remains a little wonky next week and then we'll back to normal Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday after that. Kelly, thank you so much for being here. Thanks. Talk soon.

All right. And for everyone else, I don't think there's much else to say here we've shown you the schedule you know what's coming as friday is our next show it'll be three o'clock pacific time and i'll see you there ask dr drew is produced by caleb nation and susan pinsky as a reminder the discussions here are not a substitute for medical care diagnosis or treatment this show is intended for educational and informational purposes only. I am a licensed physician, but I am not a replacement for your personal doctor, and I am not practicing medicine here.

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