Ask Dr. Drew - Grading The 2025 Trump Admin Nominees w/ Emerald Robinson & Naomi Wolf – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 443

Episode Date: January 13, 2025

Naomi Wolf & Emerald Robinson grade the incoming administration and nominees for Donald Trump’s second presidency. Naomi Wolf, Ph.D. is a bestselling author, columnist, and professor. She is recognized as one of the world’s most influential feminist writers. Wolf is a Rhodes Scholar, a graduate of Yale University, and received a doctorate from Oxford. She has written eight bestselling works of nonfiction, including The Beauty Myth, Give Me Liberty, and The End of America, and is co-founder and CEO of civic tech company https://DailyClout.io. Her latest book is “Facing the Beast: Courage, Faith and Resistance in a New Dark Age.” Follow her at https://x.com/naomirwolf Emerald Robinson is a political journalist and former White House correspondent for Newsmax and One America News Network (OAN). Her work appears in Gateway Pundit, Real Clear Politics, Citizen Free Press, and Revolver News. She currently publishes ‘The Right Way,’ a political newsletter. Find more at https://emerald.tv and follow her at https://x.com/emeraldrobinson 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 Find out more about the brands that make this show possible and get special discounts on Dr. Drew's favorite products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors  • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at https://drdrew.com/fatty15 • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Great guest again today, Dr. Naomi Wolf, our dear friend, and one of the sort of pleasant byproducts of the COVID debacle, in addition to exposing us to what was really going on with our government, was it made new bedfellows and new friends. And Naomi is one of them. She is back. She's a columnist, author, professor. She is recognized as the world's most influential feminist writer Rhodes Scholar, graduate of Yale and she is going to be, Joe there's her book

Courage, Faith, and Resistance in a New Dark Age and she has been ringing the alarm for quite some time Emerald Robinson is a political journalist and former White House correspondent for Newsmax One America News OAN

she's on Gateway Pundit, Real Clear Politics, Citizen Fresh, Free Press. And I saw them both on Daily Clout. You can follow Naomi, Daily Clout on X. You can follow Emerald, Emerald.TV and Emerald Robinson on X. They'll both be here. We're going to do a little grading of the transition appointments for the new administration after this our laws as it pertained to substances are draconian and bizarre the psychopath started this right he was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography ptsd love addiction fentanyl and heroin ridiculous i'm a doctor for i'm just saying you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician.

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And of course, Daily Clout, dailyclout.io. And my mouth, my speech today seems to be affected by the stress and having been asleep probably for a couple of days. Emerald is at Emerald Robinson, one word on X, and emerald.tv is where you can watch The Right Way, also The Right Way on Substack. Please welcome Emerald and Naomi

to the program. Guys, welcome. Thank you. Thank you. It's wonderful to be with you. How did you guys get hooked up? I don't think I know that history. I saw you on a

Daily Clout transmission and I was fascinated, but you guys been friends from before? Should I jump in with that one, Emerald? Sure. Okay. Well, from my perspective, I was interviewed often by Emerald for her show on Frank's Speech um and i always felt like this is the only remaining journalist like she and glenn preenwald and i hope myself um but i was so impressed with her determination to get at the facts and i was impressed that she at a time when everyone decent in journalism was being canceled, she just forged on and got canceled to canceled and canceled doing really superb reporting. And I always wanted, I always found in our short little interviews of 15 minutes, I always wanted to talk more. So I think

I approached her and invited her to join me at Daily Cloud because we were growing our network. And it's been so amazing to have, you know, an hour for each show to actually dive in and also have the fun that I have just talking to such a smart, principled, funny woman. I would agree with that. You guys are great together. And Dr. Drew, you said at the beginning COVID gave us the opportunity for new bedfellows. And that certainly was the case, right? So not like that. But like she said, we would talk on these short segments we would have.

And I, too, felt, A, I could listen to Naomi talk all day long. And she's someone that, though we didn't ideologically maybe align all the time, I always had a great level of respect for Dr. Naomi Wolf. Her writing is just spectacular. She has this just eloquent way of talking about topics that people usually want to shy away from because they're uncomfortable. And then I think we even just started talking before you really approached me. What I saw in my segments, she was even more of talking to a person. So there you go. I'm sure. Yeah, that makes perfect sense to me. And I must tell you,

you know, certain things in the course of recent history, I feel like I can take a deep breath. And just to know that there's a journalist doing her job, investigating, asking questions, that's like, my god thank goodness thank goodness they've not all been taken out by by by whatever this is i i noticed i don't know if you saw but we have uh issues here in southern california with the fires where our elected officials got up in front of the press and they asked no questions it was actually from somebody from sky news that finally started pressuring why were you in ghana should you be apologizing why this is the city the mayor of los angeles uh Is there an apology due here? How can you explain no water?

And they cannot answer. And I've said for a while, I said this morning that it's so easy that they should go, you know what? I took my eye off the ball. I'm going to correct that. This will never happen again. I am so sorry that this appeared like I was not here for you people. I am here. This will never happen again. That's leadership. Instead, she just stared at the ground. It's really terrible.

Emerald, I wonder what you thought of that, if you saw any of that. I did see that. And the video of the Sky News reporter chasing her was amazing. But also, I thought how sad it was that there's another recent video of a mom, just a local mom chasing down the governor. Yes, Governor Newsom asking him what he's going to do, what he's going to do. And he suggested he was on the phone with President Biden, which is questionable. And the mother wanted verification of it.

But she did more journalism in that, you know, one minute that she approached the governor than we see the actual journalists out there doing. And for me, as someone who has chosen this as my profession, I think that's sort of sad state of affairs we find ourselves in. You know, just a mom out there is doing a better job holding a government official's feet to the fire than the journalists who are paid, you know, in many cases, lots of money to do it. Isn't that weird now? I mean, I mean, so many things have shifted in the last 10 years. That is definitely one of them. A journalist where they've the fifth, you know, the fifth, the state, the Sanketa or something, or the fourth, whatever you want to call it,

they were holding the government accountable and now they are, I don't know what to call them. I mean, they're acting like journalists in a closed society when i wrote my book the end of america which is about like there's a dying democracy you know regimes that have had a coup still have journalists they just get their talking points from the regime which which is exactly what's happening now. That moment, I also saw that clip of the mayor of LA not speaking and not responding when being pressed by a reporter. I wondered about that as a tactic

because it's the same tactic that I've seen when in the last two or three years when citizens have been questioning, for instance, captured school boards and they'll just not answer and then get up and walk out. And I actually think she's not respond. And I think that's part of the demoralization, part of the war on citizens that we're seeing right now in the United States. I think she was not freezing. She was not freezing. She was not speechless. She was sticking to a script

and the script is to beat us down psychologically so that we accept that it's not even worth trying. Wow. Yeah, that is not what I would call leadership. It's not what I call representation. And it's a sad statement. I kind of thought some of it may be that they're so used to being the cool kids that when they're actually asked, you know, when they're sort of confronted with their behavior.

And Emerald, you're not. So I'll let you comment on this. But they're confronted. They're like, they're confused. No, no, I'm the good guy. I'm the feel good guy. I'm the joy candidate. What are you talking about?

I directly experienced that covering the biden white house and when you ask what do we call this type of journalists or journalism or these type of journalists i'll tell you what i called them starting with just within a few months of me having joined the white house press corps i started calling them stenographers because as naomi said they get their talking points directly from the people in power from whoever has a certain narrative to push um and and you're right about the cool kids syndrome because certain politicians have had it so good they've had no pushback Gavin Newsom is someone that's like that he was the poster boy for the liberal media. And the Biden regime,

when they came in power, they were that way for a long time. Then at some point, there was a little bit of pushback, right? I'm trying to remember exactly what the news cycle was. But when people started questioning, uh, Kareem Jean-Pierre, she absolutely fell apart. And every other official that they put out there, whether it was even John Kirby, who was much more seasoned, who came from the Pentagon as the spokesperson, then Korean Jean-Pierre, he also kind of fell apart in his own way. They can't handle because they are the cool kids and they are usually aligned with the corporate media and they're usually protected by them in instances where they are actually put back on their heels

and having to answer questions, I don't think they even are prepared for it often. And I think that's a bit of what you saw with the LA mayor. She's not even prepared to answer real questions because usually they don't face them. Well, not only not prepared, I would say even, I would go a little further and say shocked that they are coming.

Forget prepared, just blown away that there was a real question. You know, before I forget, I want to do a little bit of, because we're going to talk about the cabinet picks and the transition team on some detail. But I want to do just a second on vaccines because I've discovered something that Naomi, I thought you would be interested in. And it reminded me, those of you listening or watching on a tape, you don't see this little

rolled in piece that we do as we roll up into this show. And today we had an interview from a year and a half ago, maybe two years ago, with Michelle Bachman, who was raising awareness about this World Health Organization health treaty that, thank God, did not happen. And I do believe we're going to pull out of the World Health Organization. I think that's what's going to happen here with the next administration. But what I wanted to bring up to you is I was doing an interview with Laura Ingraham, and she was talking about vaccines or something

and the number of vaccines that were being required. And I started looking at the various schedules and I thought, why are we mandating hepatitis B the moment a child's come through the birth canal? I'm like, how much hepatitis? I started really researching. I went down the rabbit hole because I was involved in hepatitis B and hepatitis C, both treatment and vaccine therapy, way back 40 years ago. And we didn't imagine that people would be mandated to take this thing. We actually were more concerned about China, where there was mother-to-child transmission of hepatitis B.

And of course, that can happen if the mother has hepatitis B. I looked at the data. There's like 1,200 cases a year of hepatitis B in this country, essentially all in IV drug users. You don't think we're going to check the hepatitis B antibodies and antigens on a mother who has a history of IV drug use? You don't think we're going to do that?

And then we would give that baby the hepatitis B vaccine, and it's totally appropriate. It would save that baby's life. But the World Health Organization mandated that all babies receive the hepatitis B vaccine, and there is absolutely no reason for that. I was outraged when I discovered that. And I was involved in the research to get this thing going. Naomi, were you aware of this? Was I aware that they were mandating it for babies i know that the current vaccine schedule

is out of control that you know in my childhood we had three and now i believe it's 72 and what i worry about in addition to everything else is the adjuvant is that how it's pronounced because it's like stone soup right um people are focused on what the horrible or under researched ingredients are and that's abundant and the you know uh excess or superfluous uh vaccination in without a kind of demographic need for it which you've just just described which happens all the time but there there's also all that, you know, aluminum and all that, all those heavy metals going into tiny people. And I see it like I see young people looking visibly, not the way they used to look, you know, two generations back, they look pale,

they look weak, they look misshapen almost, you know, the men don't have normal testosterone levels, the women just look depressed or anxious. I mean, God knows, you know, what this soup is floating around in these children's and young adults and babies systems is doing to them entirely. And what I know you know, is that I don't trust any of it now because it's all FDA approved. Well, we looked carefully at what got FDA approved with this emergency use authorization. And the FDA doesn't give a toss, you know, whether things are safe or effective and our pharmaceutical supply is corrupted by China. But to your point about hepatitis B, I keep getting texts from CBS saying, Naomi, it's time for your shot. And I keep posting on X, still not a prostitute, still not an IV user.

You know, and right. But one day you get we have hope. We have hope. There might be a lot of people out there excited if you made that career move, Naomi. I saw some of the comments. It's funnier because I'm a famous feminist. But anyway, going back to... No, that's absolutely true. Back to the Uber vaccination. true but over vaccination it's hpv um you know kids kids who are not even sexually active or

who could be taught how to be sexually active in a responsible way they don't even get that choice they just get mandated a vaccine for sexually transmitted disease that could be avoided by responsible or even delayed sexual activity um can I say something? I figured I was poking the bear here, Emerald, but go ahead. I'll let you comment. Well, I had no idea that you were involved in the research with the Hep B vaccine. That's very interesting. I would say part of the reason I'm on the path that I'm on is because of that vaccine. And I'll tell you why. Because in 2016, I had my first child. I had to have an emergency C-section. And, you know, that's after you labor, you're exhausted, they take you in for an emergency

C-section at night. In the middle of the night, I was asleep for the little bit of amount of sleep I could get. They come into the room to take my child in the middle of the night to take him to get a hep B vaccine. And my husband said, excuse me, wait, what? night to take him to get a hep B vaccine. And my husband said, excuse me, wait, what? You're taking him to get a hep B? Isn't that for a sexually transmitted disease? They said, oh, well, it's standard. We do it in the first 24 to 48 hours of life. And they give the, you know, the usual spill about this is, this is what is recommended. It's absolutely normal. My husband did not buy it. And he basically said, well, you say on Twitter, Naomi, is that you're not a prostitute. You know, he's not a sex worker. He's just born.

He's not an IV drug user. Yeah, exactly. I mean, he was only about six hours old. And my husband, when I woke up, he was sitting there staring at my child like this. They were staring at each other. And he refused to put him down because he was so afraid they would come and take him. And he was on his phone scrolling, doing vaccine research right then. And so that started us on the path to researching vaccines, what's in them, why they're mandated, going back to the liability protections that were offered to them. I would I would go into the pediatrician's office and say, hey, can I see the literature? Can I see what's in this? And can I choose the brand? At least we were treated like scum, Dr. Drew. And I know Naomi and I have talked about this a little bit. And that really set me on

the path of dissent, I think, that carried over into being a journalist that covered politics. But then it definitely prepared me for what we saw that we didn't know what was coming. I never anticipated that I would be covering a COVID-19 pandemic in which they were going to unleash this EUA gene therapy on everyone and expect us to comply and that no one around me would question it. That started with that vaccine. Well, good. And the reason I actually brought it up was not just to poke the bear, but also to point out that it's not just rapacious pharmaceutical companies. It's not just overzealous CDC. It's not just the American Academy of Pediatrics. It's even the World Health Organization that has its hand around the throat of our kids.

To me, I was blown away that that's where it came from. And it came in the name of equity. Everybody gets the same. We've decided if one's not safe, no one is safe. Remember that? Remember that nonsense in COVID? This is BS. Each individual needs a decision in their therapeutic care.

That's it, period. All right, let's get over to the, oh, you guys, it's so upsetting. But because it's such a violation of my basic ethics and my instincts as a physician, which is risk-reward analysis, fully informed consent, care for the individual in front of me and I as the clinician, make that decision with the patient. That's it. That's what medicine is all about.

Anything else is, I don't know what it is. It's something else. It's not medicine anymore. Dr. Drew, it's also a violation of your oath, right? First, do no harm. You can't- Oh, for sure. That's the risk-reward part. That's the risk-reward analysis, and that we should be

always, always, and risk-reward, we watched it go away during COVID. It didn't exist. And Francis Collins admitted it. He's admitted it on the record, that they gave no concern for anything other than reduction of this virus, no concern for the consequences of the actions they were taking. And we all knew it at the time. We could see it. And yet we were all canceled for bringing it up. I don't know if Emerald, you brought that stuff up and got canceled then too,

but we were all struggling during that time. Oh, I got fired for questioning the COVID jab. So yeah, I was right there with you. And I was the pariah in the White House press corps. What was so funny though, is that I was the one who, you know, refused to get the job. I didn't, you know, comply with the testing. And I'm pretty sure I was the only White House correspondent that did not get COVID while I was in the White House press corps. I think I might've been the single one, yet I was the one they were all afraid of. Fantastic. All right, let's talk about, speaking of the White House,

let's talk about the appointments. I want to start with something I saw on the conversation. Well, I wanted to dig into the medical stuff since that's what I know the most about. So I want to talk about RFK Jr. And I want to talk about the Surgeon General appointment. And you guys kind of took aim at Jeanette a bit in the interview I saw with the two of you on Daily Cloud.

And my first, I just want to just drill on one issue. Did either of you or anybody else who's listening have any idea who the Surgeon General was prior to coming to office for any president in your lifetime? And why are we taking aim at this one, is my question. Why do we even know this one? Did you know who the Surgeon General was coming in with the, not when they were appointed and when they entered into the White House, we started seeing them work, prior to the appointment, prior to coming in with the not not when they were appointed and when they entered into the white house we started seeing them work prior to the appointment prior to coming in and why are we

making an issue of trump's pick do you can you guys respond to that well a i do i did know who a number of surgeons general were in my lifetime and it doesn't it's not a role with a number of Surgeons General were in my lifetime. And it doesn't, it's not a role with a lot of power, but it does have kind of bully pulpit power. So the Surgeon General who encouraged teaching kids to masturbate at the time, I thought that was, you know, a sensible. Did you know, did you know that Joycelyn, did you know that Joycelyn was coming in before Clinton took office? Did I know she was coming in before Clinton took office? Did I know she was coming in? I don't really understand your question.

That's the point. Jeanette, the current Surgeon General, is not the Surgeon General yet. She's being put up for appointment. Is that ever happened before? I've never had any idea going in who they were suggesting. And all of a sudden, now we know exactly who he's suggesting. I mean, to be fair to President Trump, he's doing something really unusual,

which is he's being very transparent about his possible nominees or his shortlist and floating people as nominees before they're brought into the public in the actual process. Fair enough. It's a different circumstance. I'll grant you that. That's sort of how he public in the actual process. Fair enough. It's a different circumstance. I'll grant you that.

That's sort of how he does his vetting process. He does that on purpose. And so he takes public opinion polls. So it is probably a little bit different of a process. That's a great point. Okay. All right. So, but I'm just amazed at the strong opinions people had about Jeanette.

And I know her personally. I know her to be a good physician. I know her to be a good physician. I know her to be a good human being. I was just sort of shocked. And she was hurt deeply. She just wants to do good. What are your guys' concerns about her? Well,

first, to Emerald's point, when she says that this is how President Trump does his vetting, that's really important. He's being really smart because she's basically a trial balloon, right? All of these nominees, including RFK Jr., they're really trial balloons. You know, how will the public react to this? And he's had some very negative reactions from some, you know, flags.

He's flown up the flagpole and i know enough from my life as a former political consultant in the clinton and gore eras that very often someone might run someone up the flagpole whom they know will be a total no so as to get all of the spleen and bile out of the way and then they slide in kind of objectionable and everyone's like oh okay we can live with this like that's a standard tactic right so i i don't know she's being positioned or what the chess board looks like in her case. But I am willing to stand firm in my initial reaction. And I'm not a reflexive commentator. If she regrets being so pro-lockdown, pro- lockdown pro vaccine she should make a statement and the other thing i will say and forgive me i'm sure she's a lovely person but i'm kind of

you're getting me at a moment where i'm kind of fed up with a lot of people who um want the fun part of public life but don't want to do the hard work and take the slings and arrows if she doesn't want people to yell at her, she shouldn't be in that kind of important influential public position. Fair enough. I would say it's twofold, besides the vetting process. Trump's appointees, even in the first administration, got a lot more attention even back then, right? Because of the nature of the media cycle around Donald Trump.

Everything Donald Trump does is magnified times 100. So there's that aspect of it. But then there's also people like Naomi, who just described how fed up she was. The average American I talk to these days feel that fed up. People who never looked at politics before could care less who was in this position or that position now understand having been locked in their houses, lost their jobs, saw their kids out of school for, you know, months and months, if not

a year or longer, they know how important appointments are. And they're not just letting it ride anymore. They're paying attention and they're making their voices heard. So you wouldn't have gotten that much outcry before. And like Naomi, I'm sure Dr. Jeanette, she's a beautiful woman. First off, she looks great on TV. As Donald Trump says, probably factored a little into it. She's central casting. And I know people who know the family and say they're a lovely family, which just sounds like you could attest to. But I remember watching her on Fox News day in and day out as she was one of the preferred doctors to come on and talk about the pandemic. And I did not agree with what she had to say.

And I didn't think that she was really looking at the facts as much as, I remember looking back at one specific appearance she made on Fox News, and then I went and compared it to like the CDC, you know, press release. She basically just regurgitated the CDC press release. Oh, for sure. A lot of us did that.

I almost did that. I just started that way. And then I went, wait a minute, what's going on here? Yeah. And I don't think you'll find any footage of me saying anything from the CDC because everybody made sure that went away. Because everyone that condemned me condemned me for taking issue with what the CDC was saying. But I want to slide over to, go ahead, Naomi. Go ahead. Well, just, you know, you, to your credit, when you realized that you were wrong about dismissing women's concerns about menstrual disruption.

Oh, yes. Bear with me, please. You apologized. And that really shows intellectual growth and open-mindedness and ethics, right? Medical ethics. You know, doctors can be wrong. Science can be wrong. The history of science and of medicine is people wrong about medical wisdom. That's fine. But medicine doesn't progress if people don't acknowledge when they're wrong,

especially in a public role that sets the tone for the administration's approach to medicine, which is what the Surgeon General does. So if Jeanette is a lovely person, let her be lovely ethically, stand up in front of the United States of America and say, I was wrong about that. You know, I am sorry. And I will do my own due diligence going forward. That's how she gets her trust back. If she wants people to stop being, you know, furious. But I feel like there's other people that have already proven themselves that can step into that role right if it's the florida surgeon general joseph latipo okay so we don't we don't need to settle you know and those people who fought the hard fought fight who you know stood their ground refused to back down

given got canceled the best lost the best. Lost their jobs. I mean, I could think, I could probably think of 10 just sitting here right here, right? Fantastic doctors that can fill that role. I don't feel like we have to settle. Well, Emeril, let me also flesh out what Naomi was talking about

when I apologized to her. Because I want every opportunity. I'm so disgusted with myself. I was not only wrong about, I was also dismissive of my friend, Naomi Wolf, and I was extremely sexist in the way I thought about it. Extremely. And that's actually what has stayed with me

is more bothersome. I don't mind being wrong. Wrong is just, that's part of the deal. But I was so sexist and I had no awareness until I thought about it. And I was like, oh, my God, that is inexcusable. So that's why I look to fall on my sword every chance I get with Naomi because she reminds me of. And because of that experience, I'm looking for more opportunities to find out where my thinking is narrow or isn't what I think it is.

And apologize when I get it wrong. That's all. Okay, well, then you should be Surgeon General. I mean, there are people doing it better than Dr. Jeanette. All right, let's take a little break. I want to talk about Jay Bhattacharya when we get back. My own feeling, I'll telegraph it before we go to break here,

is that this is the epitome of poetic justice. I've never seen anything so thrilling in my life as this appointment. When he told me that he was being considered, I could not contain my enthusiasm. But we will get, that's my bias. If you guys don't like him as a pick, we'll get into it. But at least if we all agree,

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I love those guys. All right, Naomi Wolf and Emerald Robinson here with us today. I want to talk, give you guys the particulars again

about where you can find these guys. DailyCloud.io, obviously for both. Wolf, name me Wolf, substack. Name me Wolf on X. And then Emerald Robinson, Emerald like the gem, Robinson. And Emerald.tv. You guys made it easy.

I don't know how you go able to get those handles, but it's easier than most people's. The worst thing in the world is underscore just because it's a hard one on the keyboard. What's that, Caleb? That was the first thing I noticed. She has emerald.tv because I'm one of those guys.

I own almost like 200 domains. I love a short domain. I love it. I have caleb.tv, but that's my brag of the day. Oh, good for you. We admire you guys more than just a good journalist. All right, so let's talk about Jay Bhattacharya.

Naomi, I'll start with you. He is somebody that when I first interviewed him, I was interviewing people that had been canceled because I wanted to learn what they were thinking and why they've been canceled. And he was the first one I thought to myself, this man is the poster child for the excesses of the COVID debacle. And then when he told me, he's a brilliant guy, he's an epidemiologist from Stanford, he's a physician. And he told me he was being considered for NIH. I thought, my God,

this is the greatest news I've ever heard. What do you say about it? I mean, it's literally like a Shakespearean play with the reversal. So beautiful. Public justice, indeed. I know Dr. Bhattacharya a little bit personally, and honestly, he is one of the best human beings I've ever met. A great scholar, highly distinguished. And again, early on with the Great Barrington Declaration, which was in October of 2020, I remember looking at his credentials, Dr. Gupta, Dr. Kulldorff, his colleagues who signed the Great Barrington Declaration, which basically said, people should be free and we should protect the elderly and the vulnerable um and it's gonna he said it's gonna they said it's gonna harm a lot of kids it's gonna drive

two million children into starvation they were a thousand percent correct on all points but i remember looking at their credentials and i i come from a world that used to care about credentials right and just thinking this guy has impeccable, these people have impeccable credentials. Why are they being silenced? And that was one of the first moments where I really knew that nonsense was being rolled out over us as a narrative. But the other thing is I interviewed him in early 2021.

And I remember, and he was just vilified and abused nonstop at the behest we now know of people like Dr. Fauci, calling for him being smeared and abused and marginalized. And I remember at the end of the interview asking him, why are you putting yourself in this position to go through so much to bring what you see as the truth to the public? And he said, very modestly and humbly, I'm a Christian. And he said that right after he said, all these children are going to die of starvation if we don't end the lockdowns. And I just never forgot that moment. I mean mean he's absolutely driven by the purest intentions he's a great scholar and it's so beautiful that he's going to be in a position to um

i don't know about take revenge on but but create a conditions of justice in real science or justice in real sense yes i i completely agree with you. He also has admitted to me there was another thing afoot in that first year where he said he admits he was naive. He really was so shocked at the way our peers behaved that he just couldn't believe it and that he was being subject to, quote, a devastating takedown, as we discovered in emails

that were exposed via FOIA document. Emerald, your thoughts on him? Well, I put out a list of transition grades on X a little over a month ago, and Dr. Bhattacharya is one who got an A from me, and that was an easy grade. I've interviewed him a couple times. I've had the pleasure of interviewing since I started my frank speech, show the absolute truth. But when I was a White House reporter in 2020, in the Great Barrington Declaration, it was something I referenced, I referenced his work, like Naomi said, though, I didn't know him personally, I was impressed with his obvious, great character. It is kind of shocking. I guess I've gotten a bit jaded,

I'll be honest, having covered Congress in the White House for as many years as I have. And so seeing someone who was treated so terribly get, as you called it, poetic justice, when I give other people bad grades, I look at someone like Dr. Bhattacharya getting this nomination and it gives me hope. So he's a great one. A, maybe even A plus. I didn't give anyone a pluses so fair enough i i don't believe in a pluses so we'll leave it on a that's great great inflation i've been taking a great inflation since the 1970s but uh let's uh let's move on to rfk jr a lot to be said there is a naomi let me ask first, is he going to get appointed? I cannot answer that. I would be a fool to place that.

I mean, the messaging is that there are enough votes for him to be confirmed. I, again, like Emerald, I would say that we can't know because the opposition research, if they have it, is going to be unleashed during the confirmation hearings. So if there's any skeleton that hasn't been presented to the public, if there's any embarrassing story, if there's and I'm not saying that there is, but just the way the game is played, they hold back those attacks for when they matter. And that's when people are paying attention to the hearings. I am nervous, honestly, because the worst kind of politics would calculate, you know, on the Trump side, this is genius. And it's true. I wrote an essay, you know, encouraging this because the math only works when you've got those Maha voters, those moms, those suburban, you know, white women, middle-class, upper middle-class joining forces with MAGA, who is

a different demographic and only together do you get a majority. And that's just the math, right? So that was the only way Trump could win. So he aligned with RFK Jr., but RFK Jr. is also, I'll be frank, a liability in a lot of ways, right? Because of his integrity and because of his accurate criticism and understanding of the corruption of the pharmaceutical industry, which is too big and influential on both sides to disrupt in any substantive way. So it would be very convenient for Trump to align with him, get elected. Oops, you know, not my fault. He didn't get confirmed. We did our best. And that's my worry. That would break my heart. I would hate to see that. You know, I flew with him to Florida a couple of days ago.

And I'm not going to tell you specifically what he said, but I said, you know, how bad is it? He said, it's worse. The corruption is just, we're going to get this. I'm going to figure this out, but it's bad. Emerald, does he have a grade? Hey, I mean, look, he's been solid on vaccines, medical freedom, accountability in other areas, fighting corporate and government corruption. Whatever his liabilities are, he has no liabilities on his track records there. Right. Here's what I was. So he gets a grade A from me.

Now, as far as his confirmation process, there's going to be a lot of broken hearts and you're going to see a major divide if they don't confirm him. And I think Republicans will actually face a major amount of backlash from the voting public. How much they care about that, though, you and I and Naomi, we all know that isn't that's never the top factor for them is how much backlash they get from the public, because they are going to get a lot of backlash from their donors and their lobbyists, right, which is big pharma. My concern is that they might not be doing enough from the official Trump transition to help get him confirmed. There's some mixed messaging on that.

Now, I know there are some good folks on transition who specifically wanted to help Pete Hexheth get confirmed, want to help him get confirmed for defense because they feel like if they take out Hexheth, makes it easier for them to take out RFK. So you see the slippery slope that could be. So they want to help RFK as well. So these are really good people. I think he will probably ultimately sneak through, but this will be a big blow to probably what is now, right, the biggest lobby in D.C. So it's going to be tough.

But should he get in, he definitely gets an A from me. But I'm also watching the staffing down the hierarchy because what they might try to do, Dr. Drury, and something that Naomi and I have talked a lot about is that they'll put him in, but they will hamper him and tie his hands so badly with people below him that won't go with go with his vision his agenda or really what the mandate is for him to do um so i'm also watching that but he gets an a we'll see what the the staff below him i wouldn't have probably equal grades go ahead naomi can i want to ask emerald um what do you see say he gets in and i mean I just hope and pray that he does

because all the reasons he's a man of such integrity and really understanding the regs that he captured. But what do you foresee if that's the case about a fight between him and the vice president for being the standard bearer in 2028? I think that's, I have these conversations behind the scenes all the time,28. I think that's her. I have these conversations behind the scenes all the time, especially because I'm surrounded by politicos where I live, and they're already

talking about 2028. 2024 is over, and now they're looking to the next campaign, and they feel like that could be a real divide, right? Because this coalition did pull Donald Trump over. There's lots of things, and we're not talking about election integrity at the moment. But still, it couldn't have happened without the Maha Maga coalition. If you take Vance, who is a star now on the MAGA side and you put him up against Bobby Kennedy, you're splitting that. So, you know, you're not actually RFK. Should he be confirmed? He has a better opportunity to shine than does J.D. Vance really as vice president. How much do vice presidents really get opportunities? Maybe J.D. Vance will a little bit if Trump wants him to be his heir apparent.

But this can be far beneficial for Bobby Kennedy if he really gets confirmed and he's really able to do what he wants to do then he might be the obvious 2028 but will that affect their working relationship I don't know maybe interesting you brought up Emerald Hegseth go ahead came in Naomi you want to finish that thought no I was just going to say I hope for Vance's sake because he's very young that he aligns with and joins forces with rfk jr because it would make very good dynastic sense especially with you know steve bannon's goal of just 100 years of no democrats right to have um or to no democrat party to have the trump years and then the rfk jr, and then the RFK junior years, and then the Vance years. Vance is so young. Interesting.

Yeah, and RFK is not young. I mean, really, truly not young. I know he seems young and spry, but you get up in those ages, and it slows you down. I'm here to tell you. Emerald, tell me about Hegzeth. You brought him up. Yeah, I had a hard time on grading him. I would say, you know, probably a B.

You know, I think that it's great that he was a soldier. He doesn't come out of that military elite that is in Washington, D.C., that is very, very different from your average soldier on the ground. I think he has a real connection. He has a real deep affection for his fellow service members, his fellow veterans. He has worked in Veterans Affairs. The issue that Pete is going to have is not knowing bureaucracy and running a large, I mean, the DOD is a huge department. He's going to have to have really good people under him as well. And there's been a bit of a fight and transition in getting good people in outside. And they've been so focused on getting Pete confirmed that they haven't gotten to really focus as much on the people who would support him. And the DOD is just filled, especially after this Biden administration, with people who will be subversive, especially as he tries to, he's more of a cultural warrior.

And I think that's great. I think that's probably really good for this moment. Look at what has happened to our military and Department of Defense under the Biden administration as they focused on DEI, right, and identity politics. Recruitment has nosedived. Our military readiness and with the vaccines, I mean, our military readiness is at a level that we actually have to be seriously concerned. So I think that he can be good in those avenues. We just need him to have the right support under him. And then I did know that confirmation wise, this was going to come up when they announced him. These these these stories and these issues. But it sounds like they have it under control that. And I will tell you, it wasn't the Trump transition that stepped in.

It wasn't the official. It wasn't Susie Wiles and those, you know, who should be helping him get confirmed that are making sure he got confirmed. There was other people who have helped him navigate this. You're not going to tell us whom? No, I can't share that, but the transition had left him, the official people had left him out to dry.

The shadowy world of other people. But, you know, I'm not sure the average person knows that the soldiers i've got a lot of friends that were in special forces and things the soldiers themselves have had part of the the uh the um morale problem in the military amongst other things they have disdain for the elect the politically appointed officials in the defense department including the generals i was really surprised to hear that. They look at them as like, no, they're just political appointees.

They don't know what they're doing. We know more about what's going on on the ground because we're the ones making the decisions. But you mentioned bureaucracy a couple of times. Naomi, I'll go back to you. Do you think Vivek and Elon are going to have real success in corralling the bureaucracy a little bit? I've been going off on Doge because I looked into the structure of it. And in a way, it's one of the most successful psyops in messaging.

You know, kudos to President Trump. He managed to make the country believe, including me, until I took a second look, that Doge could do the things that Musk and even Vivek were claiming they could do. We're going to slash this. We're going to get rid of that. And then I sort of thought, well, what is Doge? It's called the Department of Government Efficiency, but that's a misnomer, misleading, because it's not a department of the government. It's not part of the government at all. It's not a 501c3. So there's no disclosure of donors.

There's no 990s, which shows what the money is spent on, who's on the board. It's not a C4, which has regulations around making sure that lobbying and governing are kept separate, right? So it's basically just a group of people that doesn't really exist, it doesn't have a website, whose task is to advise the president. And it's no different from any number of think tanks or, you know, individuals who can advise the president, right? It has zero authority right now. And basically everything they propose still has to go through Congress. And so I guess then we saw the scandal around the immigrant visas, the H-1-5 visas. And Musk, and I have to disclose, I have a conflict of interest right now with X. But when Musk was getting so upset about losing those cheap labor

immigrants in the tech space who are really displacing American workers, it was so clear to me that Doge could be such an opaque vehicle for self-dealing. Because why wouldn't you lobby the people who have the ear of the president? I mean, there's no way to keep that from getting corrupted under its current iteration, which is, again, not a C3, not a C4, not part of the government. So I'm worried about it. They tried to trot in groups of oligarchs at the beginning of lockdowns in New York City and in Australia, Bloomberg, the usual suspects, Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, and in New York, people resisted. And they dropped that idea, and we're back to

kind of a democracy. But in Australia, they didn't resist hard enough, and they never got their democracy back. So it's a very dangerous precedent. Well, isn't it Andrew Jackson that came up with the notion of the kitchen cabinet? And over my lifetime, there have been kitchen cabinets that they felt like or it seemed like they were more influential than the actual cabinet in terms of the mind of the leader. Isn't this just another kitchen cabinet? I mean, we don't know, right? Because there's nowhere. Try to look at the structure of Doge.

Try to look at how's it funded? Is there a board? You know, are there any annual reports? I mean, there is there are kitchen cabinets. Sure, there are advisors, right? But there are special advisors to the president who are within the government. My former husband was one of them to Clinton. they have to do certain things like put their money in blind trust so that they're not investing in the things they're advising the president to do, right? There are random individuals who can go visit the president and tell him what they think. That's fine. But that's not the same as having any powers to actually say, cut this, cut that. And even so, structurally, we still, like we're still not, a coup hasn't, we hope, happened. It still has to go through Congress. Like Doge, you know, Musk and Obama can say,

cut the Department of Education all they want. You can't do that, right? Or, you know, stop paying for so much for pencils. You can't do that with go without going through the normal legislative process or an executive action executive order am i getting swimming in this no no it seems right to me but i am really even swimming in the swamp i get your thoughts on this yeah you know i just don't think we know enough like naomi was saying i think she's raised some very good questions about the structure of Doge oversight.

Right. And I went in one of our past episodes in our conversations. I likened it to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. I believe it was called right. The CFPB and Republicans had a real issue with that. It was sort of, you know, installed under the Dodd-Frank. I believe it was a piece of legislation they always disliked. But at least that I guess it was a piece of legislation that allowed for it. So I think there's questions about how it would work. Now, I am a little bit concerned about Elon Musk having decision-making power over too much, especially as he's now also, you know, on X, he can kind of decide a lot of who gets amplified and who doesn't and how much reach you have. He's amassing a great amount of power

and he's now moving into Europe as well. I want to know more about it. And this is something that I've been meaning to ask, particularly some of my friends that have worked had worked in the first administration office of management and budget, because typically when you think that would fall under OMB, which is going to be ran once again by Russ Vogt. I've been meaning to ask them how this would work, how Doge will work with OMB. I think they could probably give us some good perspective. Maybe in another

week, Naomi, I'll have some better answers for you on that. I've been meaning that as my homework. We'll have to watch you guys watch the Naomi and Emerald show to get an update. Go ahead, Naomi. Okay, super fast. Emerald show to get an update. Go ahead, Naomi. Okay, super fast. Emerald, are, like, being Americans, information about our government and our elected,

you know, who's advising our government, it shouldn't be depending on our friend Emerald knowing this guy who happens to run it. Right, right, right. It shouldn't be, but you know. I agree. Here we are. I know, it is.

Be part of the change. And there are like, what, close to 30 appointees that he's putting into these cabinet positions, something like that. So we're not only going to have a chance to go over a few, and we're sort of running lean on time here. Caleb, was that you that put up on the restream? I wonder who he's going to fire or fire first. Is that what you were asking?

That's actually a great question. That wasn't me, but it's a great question. I'd like to hear that. I might have an answer for that. It must have been Susan. Okay, go ahead. So right before we jumped on, I was on a call and i was talking to someone you know working with transition and they suggested that it could be morgan ortegas she was just nominated as you know the deputy special envoy i think is what it's called you know there's all these titles to to the middle east um she's a trump first trump administration official she was a spokesperson state department spokesperson but she's been a very rapid anti-Trumper and she's a chameleon. Her positions change, you know, all over the place. He, if you saw the announcement that Trump put out in his nomination

of Morgan Ortegas, it was all, I don't want to do this. This is her record. But the Republicans, who turns out to be Lindsey Graham, told me I have to do this. I don't think this was a good look for Trump. I don't think he should have done it that way, even if he was going to nominate her, because I felt like it makes him look weak. A lot of people thought it was funny. And he said, these things usually don't turn out well. We'll see. So apparently there's some suggestion that right after, you know, they're inaugurated and he gets his people in. Apparently, this is the word on the street,

Lindsey Graham and a couple other senators told Donald Trump that if he didn't appoint Morgan Ortegas, they wouldn't confirm people like RFK and Pete Hexath. Specifically, those two names were mentioned. So this person suggested to me that maybe she's the first to go. Susan, it's Morgan Ortega we're talking about. You're a fan of hers on Gutfeld. Isn't she the one that you

admire? Morgan Ortega? Yeah. I think that's her, right? We'll see what happens. You can see her on Gutfeld. She expresses herself there. That was my question, by the way. Fantastic. I've been chatting on X.

I saw it go by. I'm like, well, that's a good question. Let's wrap up with, again, we can't do them all, but these are the headlines as far as I'm concerned. Marco Rubio, Naomi, State. I'm going to punch this one over to Emerald. I don't have enough information. Okay, fair enough. I mean, it's a hard decision between a D and an F.

We might have had worse, so I'll say D. I understand they might staffing with some people underneath them. State is always a fight because state is maybe the swampiest department in all of D.C., right? I don't care much for Rubio because when he was on the Senate, I mean, you know, he's part of the Senate Intelligence Committee. And when the whole Russiagate hoax was being perpetuated, Rubio was on that committee. He was privy to the classified information. It was obviously a hoax. And he didn't get out there on the airwaves and dispel it. Donald Trump's first term was totally hampered by that and overshadowed. Also, Rubio, during the pandemic, when members of the military reached out to him, his constituents, and asked for help in fighting the vaccine mandates, they would get letters back from him telling them to just get the jab.

It's what's recommended. Yeah. Okay. Well well we'll see i i've always been a fan of his but the state department seems like a big job i don't know i wonder if he's up for it susan what yeah susan what it made you ask about the firing there was such a great question there was so much packed into this, you know, who's fired first. What made you think of that? Because historically he's fired people after like a week or whatever. Yeah, yeah, pretty quickly.

Scaramucci. Yeah. I literally refer to some appointments in terms of, you know, some length of time that someone serves under Donald Trump or works for him in levels of Scaramucci's. One One Scaramoochie, two Scaramoochies. Scaramooch is actually, he's actually a friend of mine. And I actually think he would like that.

I think he would appreciate that. You can let him know. I do. I do it all the time. I'm so sorry, guys. Absolutely. I have another comment. Yes, we got to wrap this up. I got it all the time. I'm so sorry, guys. Absolutely. I have another comment. We got to wrap this up. I got to wrap this up anyway. Naomi, go ahead. You sign off. I'll finish with Emerald. We'll give all your particulars out there. It's always a privilege to see you, so thank you for being here. We'll see you soon.

So, Emerald, we appreciate you coming on the show. You're new to us, and obviously you and Naomi have a great working relationship. Where can we find the show? Tell people what they're going to hear if they listen to you guys together. Yeah, you can find Emerald and Naomi on, of course, the Daily Cloud, dailycloud.io. We're also live stream on Rumble and X every time we do a live show. We share it on our Substacks. Hers is Outspoken. A Substack. Mine is Emerspoken, a sub stack. Mine is Emerald.TV, which is the right way.

And what are you going to see? I mean, you're going to see a lot of what you saw here. Now, Naomi and I come from different backgrounds, different perspectives, but we both have a wealth of information and expertise from being on the inside. And so we know how these different politico circles work. And I think you get a different kind of analysis and an honest analysis because look, Naomi and I aren't trying to get jobs anywhere. We're not trying to be on a corporate media, you know, get the next corporate media job. And we have a real conversation and honest analysis that we just talked about this, Drew.

You don't get that much anymore. People don't ask that much anymore. People don't ask questions anymore. It's wild, isn't it? I don't know how you survive in that world in Washington. Is that where your day in doubt life is in Washington? Once I got fired from Newsmax, I moved two hours from the city. I'm'm in the countryside i have to keep a certain amount of proximity right close proximity geographically to dc but it's it's two hours i'm in a beautiful area surrounded by farms and great people and it's restored my faith in humanity i can't tell you by the end in dc i was ready to go yeah just the i just if nothing else the viveks and the elons and the rfks and i just want to see them clean this up or expose it open it up it may help us look under the hood here and to a point

where people can't deny anymore what's going on there and and try to get us back to some of the founding principles which i know just sounds really naive but I'd certainly like to see that as an effort. Well, that's what we had hoped the first time Trump took office, right? That's why he was voted into place the first time. He was sabotaged. He didn't have enough support. He needs more people like that, right? He needs bigger people around him. And hopefully, hopefully that will happen this time.

I can tell you from being in the belly of the beast, it's bad. And even with the big personalities they are and the intellectuals that they are, the innovators and thinkers, it's going to be a tough job even for them because it's so deeply entrenched. And I think the first time around, Trump didn't know what he was going into. He has a better idea this time um but he needs a lot of support and that means all the way down the hierarchy yeah susan you want to say something can i get a tulsi rating right before you go okay tulsa grade hey hey but again she's someone that's going to need a lot of support yeah she's she's a friend we've we've broken bread with her and spent a bit of time with her.

She's awesome. She's got like Bhattacharya vibes. Well, I was just going to say that, Susan. I was going to say that people take aim at humans like that. These exceptional human beings, Tulsi, Jay, these are like extraordinary human beings. And that they have to, maybe, I don't know. It just bothers me that they have to be attacked or their persons get attacked and they're beyond reproach.

It's just ridiculous. That's why you often don't get these kind of good people going into these or willing to serve in these roles because it is so swampy. And they just tear you apart. They rip your family apart. They put you through the ringer. I've seen people lose their homes, their livelihoods, their families for serving under Donald Trump. So just to step up and be willing to do it says a lot about her character. But I've also met her. I've talked to her. I've watched her over the years. I watched her be willing to be the lone voice in her party,

to be the independent thinker. Now, she now she again she's going into one of those roles where she's going to have to be courageous she's going to need some support because the intel community right i mean it is it is so in need of all of her hauling and reform and they're going to be a lot of people who are not going to be happy about her. They don't want someone like her looking under the hood. I just, I hate this idea that the bureaucratic underbelly feels like they're the government, you know, that the elected officials are just here for a short period of time.

They are, they are there to serve us, period. End of story. And if we put someone in there they don't like, they must serve that individual. I saw when I was watching, my friend Brandon Weikert was on your show recently. And while I was watching his episode, you had the lead in where you pay something else.

And it was Dr. Paul Alexander describing his experience at the State Department and how they told him him the president doesn't run things. Don't get this mixed up. We do. That is exactly that. That was so spot on. That is exactly how they feel. When he told me that, that's why we play that. That's why we play that little clip when he, I went, I mean, you don't see the whole reaction I had, but I was, for me, that was another one of those moments where like,

are you, I cannot get over this. I can't get over it. This is disgusting. At a level that is just reprehensible. I can't get over it. This can't go on. And when,

when they came up with Doge, I thought, well, maybe this is a chance to at least expose all that. And God knows RFK is gonna try to expose that stuff. He is not happy with what's going on there. And he's an honest, good guy who knows how complex system should work.

Emerald.tv, where else? Emerald Robinson on X. Anywhere else you want us to look for you? Yeah, you can. I have a nightly news show at 8 p.m. Eastern, Monday through Friday. We go through, we dig into the stories that nobody else does and we talk about this kind of inside information that I have as well.

It's different from mine and Naomi's, which is more conversational. This is more of your standard news show. 8 p.m. Eastern on breakspeech.com. The Absolute Truth with Emerald Robinson. And then you and Naomi, when can we find that show? Well, right now, because we're fitting it into our

schedules, we do that twice a week, sort of ad hoc, but within the next month we're going to solidify more of a you know, an established schedule so that our viewers know exactly when to tune in. Got it. Caleb, you were saying something?

Yes, a quick fact check. One Scaramucci is equal to nine to 11 days. And he actually uses that term. He calls them mooches, apparently according to theweek.com. He does? Did he get it from Emerald? He probably, no.

Did he get it from Emerald? It's like a joke that's been made by some comedians before week.com. He does? Did he get it from Emerald? He probably, no. Did he get it from Emerald? It's like a joke that's been made by some comedians before where they refer to, well, how many Scaramoochies did that relationship last?

How many Mooches did that last? It's about 9 to 11 days. So he's in on the joke now. So that makes me actually like him more

if he asks the joke himself. He's got a good sense of humor. He doesn't take himself too seriously that way. All right, everyone. Thank you so much for being here. Hopefully we'll talk to you again as soon as things emerge.

Absolutely. Sounds good. This was fun. Good to see you all. Cheers. Thank you. And for us coming up, let's get that schedule on the screen here. Are we in here?

What's today? Thursday? So tomorrow's a no. January 10th. Oh, yeah, Friday. We are doing something on noon, right? Is that correct? Tomorrow's an early show.

With Dr. Victory coming back. Everyone always loves when she and I are together. Harry Fisher. Jeff Dye is going to make his way into studio, I believe. Viva Fry with Max Lugaberry. Dave Rubin on the 16th. Salty Cracker coming back around. There's even more.

Let me hang a second. I saw some more interesting. You can go in the studio in Orange County if the baby comes. Yes. There's a few of them. There's a few of them that we can't put on the, a few of them we couldn't put on the list

because there's at least one that's under a gag order that we're waiting to be released that's a prominent name and then anyone that has to do anything to do with trump's team is kind of on a lockdown right now so we're going to be filling in a lot of those incoming people as they start getting confirmed and nominated and you know things like that ah i see yeah how about the french actress she part of that? I believe, yes. I believe that she's coming in, it's actually below, it's a further date. It's in early February

when she's coming in. People that know me know I listen to a lot of French media and she showed up recently and I was like, oh my goodness, we got to talk to her. She's a French American and she is not suffering fools gladly in France, which is a rare thing. Only Marie Le Pen gets close to that kind of thing.

D. Meyer, 805 on Twitter, said, Dr. Judy, you know how deep and dark the medical sector goes. As a pharmacist myself, RFK is necessary right now. Thanks for the broadcast. I was chatting on Twitter because nobody or X, because nobody ever does and we have so many people over there. So we need more comments. Wiz Chris says, Susan, I love you more than my luggage.

I don't know what's going on between you two, but more than my luggage. Okay. You must have nice luggage. I wish I'd said that. Yes, Marview, rational revolution indeed. I think it is amongst us here these days. So even things are still kind of swampy and irrational.

We got to get the rational revolution fully gaffed on board here. Did you get the emergency evacuation alert on your phone five seconds ago or five minutes ago? No, I did not. I got one. A mandate to get out of here? No, not mandate, but evacuation.

Prepare yourself kind of stuff. Is La Cunada smoldering? Like what's going on over there? I don't think so. I mean, somebody's got to... Caleb looked at the fire maps. Yeah, I'm looking at it right now to see if there's any updates.

I don't know if there... Something's going on with the system. They're definitely government run. I think it's coming on over to Montrose a little bit and they're freaking out. No, no.

Montrose is green but La Cunada, you know, is our name. It's like, oh my God, really? The tiny little area where you're in

still isn't in a, you know, forced evacuation yet. So it's holding strong right now. No forced evacuation. Yeah, not yet. Excellent. There's strong right now. No forced evacuation. Yeah, not yet. Excellent.

There's no fire. There's no smoke. There's no wind, no nothing. Sort of like going over Lida and down. It is? Well, they show it. I'll show you the map. It's just so stupid.

So Drew, why do you think you're not happening? I thought you meant the fire was over there. No, no, yeah. Because Drew, you're like... I mean, it's like they're preparing for it or... You're like right in there. So why are you saying that you're not seeing, like why do you not see any of the,

like there's no smoke coming over your direction? Is the wind blowing the other way? Or surely you should be able to, really? No, I don't smell smoke. I don't see- When it was on the other side of the Arroyo or the other side of the Rose Bowl, when the city was burning,

when the residents were burning, yeah, we couldn't see the sun. And it was hard to breathe. Now it's way up in the foothills and I mean way up and going the other direction. I can smell smoke in the house like before I even got bad.

A little bit, maybe. All right, well, we will see everyone at noon tomorrow. I can't do this. You want Dr. Victory back? She's coming back. We'll see you at noon tomorrow.

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