Ask Dr. Drew - Hate Clicks: Gavin Newsom’s 2028 Strategy For POTUS Is Just A Bad Copy of Trump w/ Scott Presler, Jesse Kelly, Karlyn Borysenko – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 592

Episode Date: March 1, 2026

Gavin Newsom, aiming for President in 2028, has a new social media strategy using a combative, trolling mockery of Trump’s voice – but the joke has gotten old and is not helping him with Democrat voters. “Hate clicks” are getting his press office a lot of views, but many Leftist voters – who are often offended by comedians – are growing alienated by the new direction. Will Newsom’s social strategy cost him the election before it begins? Jesse Kelly is a radio host and political commentator. He hosts the nationally syndicated The Jesse Kelly Show and I’m Right with Jesse Kelly on The First TV. He served as an infantry Marine deployed to Iraq in 2003 during Operation Iraqi Freedom. He is the author of Jesse Kelly’s Little Red Book and The Anti-Communist Manifesto. Follow at https://x.com/jessekellydc Scott Presler is a conservative activist known for grassroots voter registration and mobilization efforts. He founded Early Vote Action and has over 1.5 million followers on X. He is the author of the upcoming book “The Persistence” available at https://amzn.to/4aXHHoF. Follow at https://x.com/ScottPresler Karlyn Borysenko is a psychologist turned independent journalist who investigates the operations of the Left. She streams Monday through Saturday on YouTube, X, and Rumble and documents undercover footage from far-left meetings and trainings. A former Democrat for 20 years, she transitioned to independent journalism after writing a viral article about attending a Trump rally. She has a PhD in Psychology, specializing in industrial / organizational psychology. Follow at https://x.com/DrKarlynB 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 • STRONG CELL – If you want to feel more like your younger self, go to https://strongcell.com/ and use code DREW for 20% off. • AUGUSTA PRECIOUS METALS – Thousands of Americans are moving portions of their retirement into physical gold & silver. Learn more in this 3-minute report from our friends at Augusta Precious Metals: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/gold⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or text DREW to 35052 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/fatty15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/paleovalley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • VSHREDMD – Formulated by Dr. Drew: The Science of Cellular Health + World-Class Training Programs, Premium Content, and 1-1 Training with Certified V Shred Coaches! More at https://drdrew.com/vshredmd • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twc.health/drew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Executive Producers • Kaleb Nation - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • Susan Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/firstladyoflove⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Content Producer • Emily Barsh - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/emilytvproducer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Hosted By • Dr. Drew Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/drdrew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oh, yes, Adam Coral is kryptonite to Gavin Newsom. A lot of show today. Jesse Kelly, radio host, political commentator. He's got a new book coming out, or that is out. Jesse Kelly shows where you can find him, and I'm right with Jesse Kelly on the first TV. He served as an infantry Marine and deployed to Iraq. You can also find him on X. Jesse Kelly, D.C. Jesse is J-E-S-S-E.

Scott Pressler, a name you've heard. He's going to join me in the second part of the show, known for his grassroots. voter registration. The persistence is the name of his book. You can follow him on X. It's Scott Pressler. And then Karlin Borosenko joins me. A psychologist turned independent journalist who gets inside the operations of the far left, particularly the Marxist organization with tons of undercover footage.

She was a Democrat for 20 years and transitioned to an independent journalist. She's a PhD in psychology. We got a lot to talk about right after this. Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre. The psychopaths start this right. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction. Fentanyl and heroin, ridiculous.

I'm a doctor for a . Say, where the hell you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals. Let's just deal with what it's real. We used to get these calls on Lovelin all the time. Educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat.

You have trouble, you can't stop, and you want to help stop it. I can help. I got a lot to say. I got a lot more to say. Where are my gloves? Come on, heat. Any day now? Winter is hard, but your groceries don't have to be.

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Put that up there, Caleb. He's going to tell me about what that, looks very familiar, doesn't it? I'm sure the inside that book is something far different than the original Maoist book. Please welcome Jesse Kelly. Jesse, welcome the program. You've been a big fan for a long time.

Thank you for having me, brother. I appreciate you very much. much. It's my pleasure. So tell us about the red book. Well, it's free. I don't want people to think I'm selling it. It's free. It's more like a book left. It's only 93 pages. I just had some thoughts that I want to kind of condense into something easily consumable. We all have shorter attention spans now. And I thought, I just started putting them down on paper with my co-author, Nick Rizzuto. And we thought, you know, let's just email it out to people. So we put it at jessieckley.com. Obviously, as you can see from the cover, it's a play on Mao's Little Red Book, which was used as sadly a rallying flag for a bunch of slaughter in China.

Nobody's going to be slaughtered after they read mine. It's just thoughts on Democrats and Republicans and culture and food and easily consumable. And I'm so happy people are enjoying it the way they are. Well, let's be fair. Thomas Payne's common sense was what, 30 pages or something? and it fueled the revolution. Yeah, I like easily consumable. When I say that, I realized, you know, we each have long shows.

You know, I have a three-hour radio show, an hour-long TV show. There's all kinds of long-form stuff out there that I enjoy consuming. I enjoy doing, but people are so busy anymore with smartphones and this and that. Sometimes people only have a couple of minutes. And I hate to be too vulgar about it. Sometimes people want something to read on the toilet. That used to be a thing, a toilet book or a toilet magazine where you've got a couple minutes. You thumb through something, then you put it down.

It makes your day a little better. I don't know that I want to call it a toilet book, but maybe that's where we are. Well, unfortunately, the toilet is consumed with the screens now. People are on X or something else while they're on the toilet for sure. But I do want to sort of go further with the theme of reading because people don't read. And now we've got governor from the state, I live, extolling the virtues of not reading. He claims he can't read.

And he says some of the most racist stuff I've ever heard. If Trump had said those things, this would fuel the news headlines for years. He essentially says, I got a crappy SAT like you speaking to people of African descent. Yeah, honestly, Dr. Drew, I'm a terrible person. and I'll be honest with you, my favorite thing in politics by a mile was Democrats pandering to black people because it is the most shameless, hilarious, racist thing I've ever seen in my life.

And they have never once been politically punished for it. Hillary Clinton talking about hot sauce in her purse. Joe Biden told a group of black people that Mitt Romney was going to put them back in chains all the way down to Pete Buttigieg, drinking a 40 out of a brown paper bag on camera, trying to get a higher percentage of the black vote. Gavin Newsom tells them all,

hey, I can hardly read. I'm just like you. And we're always mortified by it. But the truth is, they never pay a political price for it. They just lie about everything all the time. And human beings, all of us, every single one of us, to some extent, want to be pandered to. I've always believed that.

Now, you want to put a limit on it, right? You don't want to go too far. but the truth is human beings, we kind of like it when politicians, even when we know they're pretending where they're kind of like, this is not even the most embarrassing thing he's done recently. I mean, it was a couple of months ago, I don't remember the date. He went on an NBA podcast. It was all black guys on the podcast. And he told him on camera that he spent his childhood playing B-ball.

He mentioned that, hustling, eating mac and cheese and wonder bread. And you dropped all these things on a black podcast and didn't. get any political blowback for it. The truth is, it works. That's insane. I mean, he, he's, his dad worked for the, was the prime, is the lead legal counsel for the Getty oil company. He, on his yearbook, was elected the most stylish. I mean, what are we talking about? What is wrong with us? That's this one of things that concerns me. When he was reinstated after he was recalled during COVID and the California voters put him back in office, that's would blew my mind. I was like, what is wrong with the voters? What has happened here? Or is the system

somehow corrupted? Is it not working? There are a million quotes about this, ancient quotes, modern quotes about it. But the truth is the biggest lie in the world is that people desire honesty from their leaders. Nobody actually desires. I shouldn't say nobody. That's not fair. Many people do not desire honesty from their leaders. They actually want to be lied to. They want to be pandered to and those of us who no, I don't accept it. I don't believe it. I can't believe it. That's too much for me.

Not in this country. Please tell me it's not true. Well, if it makes you feel better, Dr. Drew, it's not just in this country. It doesn't belong to any man, woman, race, religion is, it is human nature. People don't want to be told the sky is falling

fat. People don't want to be told you have to eat less and work out more. Cigarette smokers don't want to be told. to put it down. Dumb people don't want to be told you have to pick up a book. Human beings don't want to be told the truth. We don't want that about ourselves. But I've screwed up things in my life and I've screwed up more things that I can possibly

count in my life. My first instinct every single time, I can think back to it was, man, whose fault is this? Who can I blame? It must have been my wife, probably my parents, definitely my dad. Your dad always somehow gets the blame for this kind of thing. It was probably, and it was me every single time. But that was always what I got to last, right? The last thing you want to do was look in the mirror and say, you're the problem.

It's us. It sucks. But Jesse, it's called being an adult. It's being an adult. And you're making a case for us being very, very, very child. And to be fair, we've certainly had a narcissistic turn. And part of that turn could be being underdeveloped. I want to go back to Newsom.

Caleb, did you, what that post you put up there, was that his attempt at a mean tweet to Sean Hannity? that would you put up there? No, I think this was an attempt at sounding like Donald Trump in his tweets. Find the Hannity one. Find the Hannity one. That one's even more oblique. And, you know, what should we say? It misses the mark. Wow. Just got a call from a very reliable source, top level that Donald Trump is furious right now. It's just an AI of Trump's voice saying it. It sounds like he's just copying Trump. That's hysterical. But he really is attempting to do something that I would never, I mean, not because I don't

want to sound like Donald Trump, but no one can sound like Donald Trump. And so if you start mimicking what he's doing without putting your own sort of style on it, you're eventually going to just, you're not just going to sound boring. You're going to sound awful. I think it's a new era. And look, I agree with you. And I can never hate Gavin Newsom as much as you do because I don't have to live under that slick-haired tyrant.

But the truth is, people who want to do good and they want good to happen and they want bad people to be defeated and they want good people to succeed. People who want that do not fully understand this social media era in the way that honestly Donald Trump does. And I actually believe Gavin Newsom and his team do, that there's an old old saying, which you've heard in a thousand, times that there's no such thing as bad publicity. That wasn't always necessarily the case. You

didn't want your face on the cover of People magazine after you wrapped your car around a tree after snorting amount of cocaine. That was bad publicity. That in this day and age of social media, social media consumption and podcast consumption, we want everything on demand. Donald Trump has proven this. There is no such thing as bad cliques. Just get it. clicks and good people think that if I rage against this loud enough that I'll defeat it and it doesn't work that way. You can only ignore it. Well, I know what you're talking. I get what you're talking about, but I think there's a new wrinkle in that phenomenon. And that is the modern social media witch hunt. That these mass formation, these mob movements are so irrational and so

bizarre. And once they get going, like, just take, look at Epstein. That's in full swing right now. If your name appears on a page with Epstein, forget whether it's apocryphal, forget whether it has anything to do with anything. If your name just shows up on the page, you're done. That is a witch hunt. That is, that is not just bad press. That is a frenzy of hysteria. And that does seem to not go well for people. I agree and disagree, I think, Dr. Drew. I call it the nuclear news cycle. And what I mean by the nuclear news cycle that we live in now is if you get in trouble, even if it's crap, your name appears in the Epstein files, even if it's crap, you are going to feel more heat in the next 2448 hours than any previous generation did because your mom saw it on Facebook and she shared it

with your uncle and your church group knows about it. Your employer finds out about it since they found out about it on Instagram. So the way social media shares information now will make it burn hotter for you than anyone ever had to experience shortly though. It's nuclear because it's going to burn it a million degrees for 24 hours. But if you can just keep your head down and shut your freaking mouth for 24 hours, the public always chasing the newest thing will find a new thing and they'll go taking off after it and they'll forget that you.

were named here and named there. And sure, it will always be there. You know what, though? But you've seen people weather tremendous storms now because the public, no matter how bad it is, they move on. There is stuff that I got in a shitstorm in 1999 or something that happened in 99. The shit storm happened in 2003 or something is mentioned top line for me all the time. And it's all nonsense.

It's all completely misstorted, distorted, misrepresented. It's a mess. It's not what actually is the case. And people aren't, the other thing, they're not interested in nuance. They're interested in the witch hunt. So, I don't know, things stick now and won't go away. That's the other part of this because it stays on the electronic media, stays in the Wikipedia.

And so it is a weird, weird time. I mean, people can move on and you can reestablish your reputation in spite of whatever is floating around the internet because, you know, if you're honest and you do good work, it speaks for itself. Oh, Caleb, hang out a second. Go ahead. Say that again. So that article that you just mentioned, Drew, the one from like almost 20 years ago, that is literally the only result that pops up when you search Dr. Drew in the Epstein files is someone must have sent him that article from all those years ago. So your name is technically, you're not in the files, but your name is technically there because an article was sent to

Epstein that was about you from about 20 years ago. Which was an apocryphal, a bullshit shitstorm in the early days of all this stuff. But now it's stuck in the public records forever, this old inaccurate article. This is how this was always going to go. This is how this was always going to go, though, with the Epstein files. It was always going to go this way. There's always going to be some very bad people in there. And there's always going to be a bunch of innocent people in there.

And the point is the public is so. distrustful now of everyone in authority and justifiably so they feel like that elite people get away with everything and have always gotten away with everything and you're hiding this secret list that shows this cabal of evil people and I want you to show it to me and I want you to show it to me and I want you to show it to me but there's no list that there's a million files cobbled together from this email and this trial and this and that and some of it's very very legit with some monsters and abused women and some of it is totally made up out of thin air for a variety of different reasons and the public was never going to be discerning enough to sift through that information

and figure out that who's who and what's what, it was always going to go this way. You know, in the third part of this show, I'm going to speak to Carolyn Beresenko. She's a psychologist. I want to get in with her about this witch on mob stuff because I think it is, I think it's going to pass. I mean, it's always, obviously, humans have always done this kind of thing. But I think the profound narcissism of our present moment, I think, I think, you know, think is what fuels it. And you've sort of tilted out of it. You said the childlike quality,

which is kind of a narcissism. Before I wrap up our conversation, I want to point out something that I thought was hysterical that you posted with Joy Reid commenting about Al Green. Tell me about that. I think it's hysterical. Hold on, Dr. Drew. I didn't hear that. I heard something else in my ear. Oh, I'm sorry. That you, You posted on X a comment or a little vignette video of Joy Reid talking about Al Green, and it was hysterical. Please set that up for us. Well, she, Joy Reid is not, look, Joy Reid's a moron.

And she's been a moron for a while. I can't believe she had a long enough media career. She did. And eventually, she just caused too much trouble. She violated the one employment rule if she didn't have her talent. and outweigh her baggage. So they sent her on packing. And now she does these series of highly embarrassing stunts. And she gets up at the counter state of the union address, which in and of itself was embarrassing, just this conga line of freaks up there singing and dancing. And Al Green,

the congressman from Houston, had just been escorted out of the state of union because he had to make a spectacle of himself. So Joy Ann Reed gets up and starts singing a wonderful Al Green song that everybody knows. Of course, it's not the same Al Green. And the more I watch the clip, the more I'm not sure Joy Ann Reid knows it's a different Al Green. It's so funny. It's such an interesting observation. What do you make of that counter programming? I mean, it really, I was, I was shocked at how bad it was, frankly. I mean, they could have done a million other things. But this was kind of inexplicably bad. Well, normal people understand that Republicans have plenty of problems too, but normal people understand that Democrats have a normal problem where they just need to appear normal because people get mad at Republicans all the time.

They get mad at Trump. They get mad at this. They went on another other solution. So if you can just not be crazy, not act crazy, then the public may find you more appealing. but as the Democrat Party has been taken over by the AOCs, the older salty dogs like Nancy Pelosi, they're old, they're retiring, as the younger radical nut jobs have taken over, normal is simply not on the menu. There's no appetite for it with the people who fund it, and so they keep screwing their party over by being nut jobs. Look, I'm a hardcore partisan on the right, so I love it.

I didn't, frankly, I didn't understand the whole frog thing. Can you explain that? to me? Yeah, they're weird. That's the whole frog thing. The witness, these people are, so many of these people are theater kids who never grew out of the whole thing. And now they're 50, 60 year old theater kids. And instead of just talking about taxes and affordability and border security and normal things that normal people care about, they're still acting out these weird theater things. So they're singing. They brought up inflatable frogs. Joy Ann Reed is singing out green songs,

who she thinks is a politician. It's just a very odd situation. You are pointing out another important aspect, though, of the entering adulthood, which is education founded in rigorous thought, rigorous analysis, reading, writing, science, math, the basics. We need that.

The founding father is obsessed about what it took to be a sufficiently trustworthy citizen to be able to be given the vote to govern themselves. And we just left that all behind. So here we are. Well, Jesse, what's coming up on your show? And where do you want people to go?

Oh, my goodness. You can, I mean, you go to jessiekelly.com if you want the book. Jesse Kelly's show tonight will be on everything from Iran, state of the union stuff. There's patriotism, poll numbers out that show Democrats, sadly hate America now and they didn't 25 years ago. We have all kinds of stuff.

They proved it during the State of the Union. I mean, that was the one message I took home. At most disdain, if not hatred, or this country. Jesse Kelly, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you, Dr. Drew. You got it. Thank you for your service as well. He was served in Iraq.

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Thank you, Dr. Drew. How are you? I'm good. Thank you for all your work. I mean, it's just, I watch in the sort of astonishment. Where did all this inspiration come from? I was inspired by President Obama, of all people, and people scratched their head when I tell them that. But it was 2012 and he was reelected back into office, and I pointed the finger back. back at myself and said, Scott, you were just a voter, but you're in action, not knocking on doors, not registering voters, not getting out the vote, allowed President Obama to be reelected. And so I decided to be the change that I want to see in the world.

And I have now been registering voters across our great nation for the last decade trying to elect to good conservatives in the office. Am I remembering correctly that it was you that for a while there was trying to help out with the homeless situation as well? Yes. And in fact, we started in Baltimore when President Trump was bringing attention to the city, basically saying it needs a little bit of love. It needs some attention. And for the same reason why I decided to get involved after President Obama, I was like, guys, why are you bringing attention to a city that needs. help, but everybody is neglecting to offer a hand up, to offer help to the city. And so I posted on

social media and said, I'm going to Baltimore to do a cleanup. And we picked up in one day, Dr. Drew, 12 tons of trash and 12 hours and one single day. And really, that was a wake up moment for me because I said, I do not need the authority or the agency of government to take action. And I said, why can't we do this everywhere across the country? And famously, I even went to Los Angeles and Van Nuys where we picked up 50 tons of trash. And the homeless, I want to give a shout out, the homeless actually donned hazmat suits and picked up trash with us to make Van Nuys a better place to live. Did you come away with any better understanding of not just the homeless situation, but the deficiencies in the management of our local governments? Well, I can give you two precise examples.

Number one, we tried to do the right thing by getting a permit for Baltimore. And we tried day after day after day. And we were never granted a permit. And I know this might sound terrible, but I'm a person. and that I've learned in life, sometimes it's better to ask for forgiveness than permission. And without a permit, we decided to do up our clean up in Baltimore. And it was after the event was done, I got an email saying that we were denied a permit to pick up trash peacefully and respectfully in the city of Baltimore, Maryland.

And it gets worse, Dr. Drew, because that area that we were cleaning up with the homeless and Dan Nyes in California. Here's what the situation was. It was a piece of federal property that had a whole bunch of trash and it had the homeless community. The federal land was leased to the state of California.

So Cali told the federal government, I don't have to clean this up. I don't have to take care of the homeless community. And the federal government said, I don't have to take care of it because I'm leasing it to you. And that is basically our government. government in a nutshell. Yeah, brilliant.

So my understanding is you're a little concerned about what's going on in Texas and you're putting some focus down there. I am. I have been courting members of Congress, Dr. Drew. I am here for one reason. And that's to help pass the Save America Act to secure our elections and to make sure that voters in America can have confidence that their votes are not going to be. diluted by illegal or fraudulent ones. And I look at what's happening in Texas. The March 3rd primary is

coming up. And as of right now, the last that I saw, the Democrats are outvoting Republicans by 136,000 votes. Yes, I get it that it's a primary. Yes, I get it that you can cross over. But the fact remains last year, we lost for. We lost New Jersey. We lost Pennsylvania. And unless we can restore voter trust in our elections, I'm very worried about what's going to happen in this year's primaries and then the November 2026 election. You know, as it pertains to the SAVE Act, I saw Van Jones doing a little analysis and it caught my ear. He said, you know, it's one thing to ask for, you know, one of these state ID or an official government ID or what are our new what real idea i guess we're calling them

now yes um but he's alleging that the save act is going to require a second form of identification such as a passport or a birth certificate i'm not sure i could come up with all that in time for voting is that is that true no that that's phony baloney propaganda from the democrats and I want to clear this up right now. In order to even get your real ID, you need to have some sort of proof of citizenship to even get a real ID. And so what the Save America Act does

is it requires proof of citizenship to register to vote. And the Save America Act also requires photo voter ID when you go to vote in person. Now to our beautiful married women that are watching right now, I want to be clear, you will be able to use a marriage certificate. And even if you do not have that on you, what's beautiful about this bill is it still allows for federalism. The states at the state level will still have discretionary ability to design their own system that still meets the requirements of the Save America Act. And if worse comes to worse, there will still be an affidavit that if a married woman is not able to show her legal name change, well, under penalty of perjury, she may sign her name as an affidavit. So I want to be clear that this is going to make it hard to cheat, easy to vote, proof of citizenship, photo voter ID, and gain the confidence of the American people that we can trust.

our election systems. You jumped a little bit ahead of the concerns that some women are having. Maybe you should describe, you talked about the solution and what the states are going to do. Talk about what the issue is that women are raising. Well, it's because I'm a mind reader, Dr. Drew, and I watch the view. I'm a little bit of a masochist. I have to watch the view to understand the other side of the talking points. I know, bless my heart.

Good. Well, you jump past. I want to make sure my audience gets what it is. I knew what you were talking about, but I want to make sure they do as well. Some Democrats are claiming that the Save America Act is misogynistic and it's anti-woman and that if you have changed your name, then you will not be able to vote because you won't be able to prove your proof of citizenship. Well, I'm here to tell you that you can use a marriage certificate.

You will be able to do an affidavit. you will be able to sign your name under penalty of perjury. So you're telling the truth. And no woman will be barred for being married or having a name change when we pass the Save America Act into law. And President Trump signs it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Has Nikki Minaj helped with getting the voters registered the Save Act through? I want to be clear that I have. been listening to Starships for years, and I liked Nikki before she became a Republican. I want to be very clear on that. Is she a Republican? I think, I don't know that she was probably. She was sort of a Trump fan, right? Well, let's put it this way.

The barbs, they are MAGA, and that means putting the American people first. And I want to say thank you, Nikki Minaj. And I want to say thank you to the barbs that have helped call our senators. and literally they're getting registered to vote. They're voting in the upcoming primaries. I do believe Nikki getting tens of millions of views on her post on social media and galvanizing her audience to contact members of Congress. Absolutely, Nikki and the Barbes have made an impact and getting Susan Collins and getting John Thune and getting 50 votes for the Save America Act. you know

Trump said something caught my ear also as it pertains to Nikki he had her speak I don't remember where the event was and you know she spoke enthusiastically and he stepped up and he said well isn't she great she's beautiful and she gets it

and I thought well you remember that and I thought there's a lot packed into she gets it what do you imagine he meant by that this is common sense Dr. Drew, I don't know how many times I have to say these statistics to the American people, but you know what I'm going to start doing? I'm going to go out into the community and do mail on the streets and interviews. And I'm going to personally be a storyteller and show that

84% of Americans support photo voter ID, 76% of black Americans support photo voter ID, 82% of Latino Americans support photo voter ID, 85% of white American support photo voter ID, 85% of white American support photo voter ID. What Donald Trump means is this is common sense. This is a low bar. This is something that we are privileged as Americans and citizens of the United States to be able to vote. And that right is sacred. It must be protected.

Nikki gets it. We live in interesting times. Are you planning any political, aspirations of your own? I haven't announced it yet, but I guess since we're alive on television, I might as well hear on Dr. Drew. It's on my heart to help my local community in Pennsylvania. So one thing that people don't know is I bought a home in 2024 and I moved my life to

Pennsylvania just so I could vote for Donald J. Trump. and I wanted my vote to help secure the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. And so this year, I am collecting signatures, and I am running for the Republican Party, and to become a state committee man of the Republican Committee of Beaver County. And that's breaking news. I haven't shared that anywhere, but I want to start local.

I want to do it the right way. I want to help my community. And I want to make sure that we are winning this November in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania and defeating government. or Shapiro. Yeah. That was John, that was John Adams,

and that was Alexis de Tuckville, which is the local practice of democracy, is why America succeeds with democracy, why it practices a good form of democracy. So congratulations for that. Where is Beaver County? So nobody knows. Yeah, I'm right across from, get this,

I'm right across from East Palestine. We're famously, infamously, Pete Buttigieg had the train debacle. I'm right across from Youngstown. I'm north of Pittsburgh. And so I say, you know, it's about time that the Democrats care about East Palestine, not Palestine, and bring it back home to Ohio and the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. And the local Republican committee, is that select delegates?

Or how does that work in Pennsylvania? So we have 67 counties. what it would mean is I would be a Republican representative if the people choose to even get me on the ballot. And I would be one of the committee members for the Pennsylvania GOP. And so each county of the 67 would send representatives to be their voices for their Republican Party respectively. Is that at some sort of like convention or is that in the Congress in Pennsylvania? Each day runs so differently. I get confused by it.

Tell me. So it's different than the legislature, not state house, not state Senate, not Governor Shapiro. This would literally be the people voting on. Do we do endorsements? It will be a spring meeting that they have, a winter meeting that they have. And I will be, hopefully, if the people choose me, a representative of them. And my promise and commitment is I'm not here to be the Scott Pressler show. I'm here to be the voice of Beaver County. and I'm going to use my platform to ask people what they want.

And even if I disagree with something, I will abide by majority rules, by the will of the people, and I want to be an actual statesman. I do think that you've selected something that to me feels like would be an absolute match for your abilities and your talents. Tell me about the persistence. You wrote a book by that name as well? This is the craziest year, Dr. Drew, man. So I have a book coming out on May 19th, which happens to be the Pennsylvania primary. I can't believe it worked out that way.

So everybody in Pennsylvania, please vote on May 19th. And people have been asking me for years and years to write a book, but my first priority was re-electing Donald J. Trump. And as you see on the cover, that was from March after the 2024 election. And it was an off-the-record invite. I had an invite to come see the vice president. And in comes waltzing Donald Trump when we're in the Roosevelt room. And he goes, JD, send him into the office.

And so I had my picture with Donald J. Trump and Vice President Bance in the Oval Office. And this book, really, it's about the power of one. I want every person that watches your show, Dr. Drew, to understand that if all 330 million American citizens took it upon themselves to take action, to take positive, peaceful action. We could transform our country overnight for the better. And so this discusses the Baltimore cleanups, how we registered voters in places like Long Island and Pinellas County, Florida, and how ultimately we focused our time, talent, and energy on the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

And yes, together as a family, we together won the popular vote and re-evolvement. elected Donald J. Trump back in the office. And this is my story. And I can't resist asking about, I don't know if you had a medical problem, you sort of faced death in some way in 22. Tell me about that. Yes, I had an iron deficiency. I lost a lot of weight. And I went down to 143 pounds. I wasn't taking care of me. I was taking care of everybody else, respectfully, not even statistically. And I've just learned in life that in order for me to take care of others, I have to invest in me. And so I gained a little bit of weight going back from 143 to 217. And I went, okay, let me pump the brakes for a second. I'm good again. I'm healthy. And I tell you,

Dr. Drew, I've been on a health journey for the last 12 months on March 4th. And I will have lost 49 pounds over that year, the correct way, focused on protein, protein, protein. And I think my hair is even growing back stronger. So I think that shows me that I'm doing the right thing. But I'm ready to go. Now, your hair and nails. Now, you can't get past me on a few things, though. So, Susan. Yes, jealous of the hair. And so, but you can't get that kind of iron to fish.

without losing blood. So you were bleeding from somewhere. What was happening? I was down. My hemoglobin was 4. What happened? We had a bleeding ulceragestriosis. A polyp.

What happened? I got a, what's a spinal? What's it called when they get a spot? Anyway, I have anemia. Severe anemia. I don't know how to,

to explain it to you. And I just learned that I need to have a lot more. You lost blood. You lost blood somehow. And that's what I was asking about. But you're not obliged to tell anybody anything. That's your private information if you want it to be. And so.

And but I'm glad you're well. And I'm glad you're in fighting shape because your team needs you. And you have been an inspiration to so many people that, you know, I just, I look forward to you getting involved in a more formal way with the process. You're the kind of person we want in government and representation. This is how this is supposed to work. And I spotted you really early. I think even before Baltimore, you were making some noise about homelessness,

just sort of asking questions that were good. And I just have been following you ever since. And it's just I'm so thoroughly impressed. And I just want to thank you for everything you've done. Well, and one of the last things I want to leave on the note since you brought it up again is I really would like us to be a party that is more empathetic. And from having dealt with the homeless, many of these people are just those that have found hard times. And they are fathers, they are mothers, they are people that are working. When I was in Van Nuys, I met a gentleman named Bear.

He looked like a bear. and he worked on television construction crews during the day, and he was homeless at night. And I think this is an opportunity for the Republican Party to be the party of affordability, to be the party that tries to elevate and lift everybody up. And most importantly, take care of the American people. I think that's a low bar. Let's take a look at domestically, not globally, get ourselves right here at home, elevate every American voice, and then we can be able to be.

charitable to the rest of the world. But it starts just like investing in my health and myself, it means that we must invest in our country and our people. Thanks, Scott. I hope to talk to you soon. Thanks, Dr. Drew. You got it. All right. We have yet one more excellent guest ahead, which is Karlin Borosenko. she goes inside in some of the our left communities and has some interesting story. She's a psychologist and I want to talk to her more

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It's fatty 15. So let me tell you where you can find Carlin. She is on X and DR, Carlin, K-A-R-L-N-B. Also on X, Decode the Left. the left and then decode the left.com and then carlin k-a-r-l-l-Y-N-substack.com. Dr. Borstenko, welcome on the program. Hey, thank you so much for having me. So I have some sort of curious questions.

You've been inside with some of these organizations. You've been close at hand to some of these folks with sort of extraordinary views. what is your access to assessment of this group by access to your character pathology that it seems to me to be running a muck in this country

right now? Yeah, Dr. Drew, I've been undercover with the far left and infiltrating their events both online and in person for the last five years. I have been deep inside this subculture. I read their propaganda. I know what they write when they think they're only talking to each other and not

talking to people like us. And the thing that I think people need to understand about the far left in America is the problem is so much worse than people think it is. The far left is highly organized. They are highly intelligent. They all have jobs. They control the unions. They have a collectivist ideology that really unites them together in a common goal, even if they operate as a decentralized, non-hierarchical organization, which makes it really difficult to, you know, cut a head off the snake, if you will, because there is no single head of the snake. And I think that how the far left operates, you know, it is, I do call it a cult. It is an ideological cult in which they only listen to other people in the echo chamber.

Education is at the forefront of what they do. So they're always doing book clubs and classes and things like that. That really creates this social ecosystem where they are constantly having their bad ideas reinforced. And there is no disruptive element that can come in. to say, have you thought about this? Have you thought about that? Well, they're going to kick that element out very quickly. So, yeah, it's a challenging environment to be sure. And you were left-leaning most of your life. What happened? Yeah, as many people may remember me as the knitting Democrat who left the left back in

2020 after I went to a Trump rally. And that was my story, but it wasn't just going to a Trump rally that caused me to leave the left. I was a Democrat my entire life. I grew up in Vermont. I vote. for Bernie Sanders and every election that I could vote for Bernie Sanders in before I moved to New Hampshire. And basically what happened is back in 2019, social justice started to take over my knitting community, of all things. And so I basically started asking questions, why has my own side gone crazy? And that sent me down a rabbit hole of really questioning everything I thought I knew. But then after Donald Trump lost the 2020 election and Joe Biden got inaugurated into office, I started doing deep dives into DEI trainings that were happening all over the country because I'm an organizational

psychologist. I come from the world of corporate training. It's something I'm very familiar with. I was in HR when DEI, it kind of started taking over this space back in 2018 and stuff like that. And those deep dives I was doing into the DEI industry, just like they actually led me to infiltrating the radical revolutionary far left because every bad idea we've seen in DEI or things being taught in the schools, they all come from the radical revolutionary front. far left in America that are constantly pushing their ideas and their vision out there. And so it was kind of a weird path to get where I am today, but that's how it happened. I want to go back to my original question, though.

I, to me, people that are used to, you said cult, but cults do have a leader typically, a charismatic leader of some type. And I get that it's cultish, but I'm worried about the kind of person that falls victim to mass formation, cult, mob action. To me, that speaks of character pathology. I understand your perspective on that. The far left absolutely does not have a leader. They are highly decentralized.

They're very actually aggressive about saying we are decentralized and this is how we're organizing. They write it in all their propaganda. So I do understand that perspective of it. I call them more of an ideological cult because their ideology, listen, there are thousands of far left cells all over the country. There's far more of these people than I think most people understand. But one of the things that's been so shocking to me about the far left over the past several years

is that they are incredibly consistent in their ideological beliefs across all of those thousands of groups. So even though there's no leader dictating from on high, here is what we believe. They are all following the same basic playbook. And sometimes they have different ideas about how to implement their ideas. in the world, but they do communicate with each other through conferences, trainings, and events and things like that. There are ideological leaders on the far left. So you have people like the academics, the people who are out there writing books as authors, the people who are teaching their classes, the people who are organizing as activists all over the country to make sure all

of these ideas are communicated out. They have different anarchist websites in which they, but basically people submit their talking points to these anarchist websites and then those talking points get disseminated nationwide and then groups decide which talking points they want to use and which ones they don't want to use. And a lot of people tend to, again, follow the same basic belief system. So I think for me, the thing that most people need to really understand is the people in the far left are largely victims of this ideology. They've either been indoctrinated in the public school system or many of them are actually second and third generation socialist and communist that has socialist and communist parents that raise them with these ideas. So again, there's no one

leader, but there is like an ideological framework that all of these people are working from. Even that you have a deep experience with them and a deep sense of how it works and what they're thinking, do you spend time thinking about how to dismantle, but how to address this? Oh, I spend a lot of time thinking about that, Dr. Drew, and I'm about to really disappoint, I think, a lot of members of your audience when I say that I think the first step to addressing this is people need to hinge into reality with what the far left is and what they're doing. And the thing of it is, is I walled myself off from the conservative ecosystem for like three years when I was really starting to infiltrate these groups and starting to go undercover.

And I was focused entirely on primary source evidence of what these people were saying and doing in the real world. Then after about three years of just being immersed in this ecosystem, I took the blinders off. I started listening to what conservative and right-leaning media was saying again. and they are completely unhinged from what the far left is doing and saying in the real world. So when people ask me, Carlin, what do we do about this? I say the very first thing that you need to do is forget everything you think you know. You need to go back to basics.

You need to watch primary source evidence about what the left is doing. And really, Sun Su, Art of War, this stuff, which is you need to understand your enemy better than they understand themselves. And right now, a lot of the propaganda, or maybe I shouldn't say propaganda, but narrative, that I see coming out of conservative media is just unhinged from what's going on. Let me give you a great example of this. Right-leaning people like to say that the left doesn't have jobs

and they're all-paid protesters. This is one of the most damaging lies that right-leaning media and right-leaning pundits and commentators have ever told their audience because the fact of the matter is the left does have jobs. They're teachers, their electricians,

their plumbers, their garbage men, their union members, their lawyers, their doctors. the unions are a key part of leftist organizing. How would the left control all of the unions if they didn't have jobs? It just doesn't make any sense. And I'll tell you what, we're about to start really seeing it hit the fan coming up on May 1st, 2026, which is the May Day, it's going to be a big May Day general strike protest where

the far left is going to try to shut down the economy, probably for an extended period of time in 2026. But then they're already planning, actually, for a mass national strike on May 1st, 2028, the Democratic Socialists of America specifically have a jobs program within their organization where they get DSA members jobs and organizations like Amazon, like Starbucks, specifically to agitate to form unions in those workplaces so that all the unions are going to come together and work together for May 1st, 2028 to try to literally shut down the entire economy. And we would be remiss also if we didn't mention the teachers. How did the far left start to control the K-12 schools?

that everyone sends their kids to if they didn't have jobs and they were all just doing this as paid protesters. And so I think like just myths like that that really inhibit right leaning action when it comes to understanding the left and fighting back against the left, those are the first things that need to get. It's kind of like when you're a writer and I know you, you know, you've done stuff like this. It's like when you're a writer of books, you have to sometimes kill your darlings, the things that are your favorite things, they just don't go with the book that you're writing. When it comes to conservatives and pushing back on the far left, I think they need to kill their darlings in terms of the mythology that they advance in their communities. Things like they don't have jobs and they're all paid protesters are not helpful at all. What would be helpful? Again, I think that going back to basics, and listen, there are so many people, there are thousands of people who watch my YouTube channel where I go through this content, where they come to my content and they just start watching far left presentations.

They start seeing what the activists are saying directly. We actually infiltrate their organizing calls in real time. I'm doing a spy stream later today where we're going inside a live leftist organizing call and just listening to what they're saying. And I get so many people on my channel that say, oh my gosh, Carlin, I thought I understood what the left was doing. But I literally had no idea until I started watching your content and just actually listening to it directly from them instead of getting my sound bites off the news media or off of X or things like that. And so again, I think it's about just really, you know, you've got to go back and embrace a beginner's mindset with the far left. I had to do this. So many people have had to do this. You need to forget everything you think you know and just look at what the primary source evidence says. And the primary source evidence says, these are highly intelligent people who are far more organized than I think people think they are. There are far more far left activists than I think the right wing is prepared to tackle. And the right largely does not understand the left or how they operate or how they behave or what their motivations are. So we've got to understand our enemy if we're going to defeat them. And that's what I'm trying to do in the world,

is educate as many people as possible. I think that's where I discovered you is on one of those spy Zoom meetings. You put up pieces of it and commentary with it. And it's like, hmm, I think I need to speak to Carlin. So, but again, I want to try this. I'm swinging by one more time. And you can say I don't have an opinion or I don't know. But see, my sense is that people that really get into the stuff have got mythologies.

That's what's so gratifying about it. If you have certain kinds of externalization, you know, you see that you see all the problems in the world as out there. You don't have to solve any of the internal problems. That's called a character illness. And so what I see is lots of evidence of character pathology, particularly borderline a narcissist, particularly borderline. And I'm wondering if you formed any opinion about that.

And I'm thinking it because I'm thinking about solutions and having worked for many decades in a psychiatric hospital when people behave like patients, you need to be treated like patients. And these kinds of character pathologies need containment, firm containment, or they will continue to run amok.

So what are your thoughts? Hey, listen, Dr. Drew, there's no one that would advocate more than me that we should lock up every far left person and not allow them to exist in polite society. I would be totally on board with that. But when it comes to... I'm not saying lock up. I'm not saying lock up.

I'm saying contained. Yeah. I'll contain them however you will, possibly in a concentration camp of some sort. Anyway, I'm being hyperbolic and I'm joking quite a bit. Not even joking. No, well, no, maybe a little bit. But, but, you know, when it comes to... You can contain, you can contain with mockery.

You can contain with constant feedback. You can contain with all, you know, boundaries of all sorts. There's tons of ways to contain, but you can't be timid about it. It has to be firm and has to be unified. Yeah, I think the right wing has tried to contain them with mockery for years now by posting lots of memes on Twitter and making fun of them every time they have a mass protest. And I would say that that strategy hasn't worked. I mean, right now the far left has kicked the Trump administration out of multiple major American cities.

They are winning on the anti-I's protest front, resoundingly, no matter how many, memes right wingers post on Twitter. But going back to your question, when it comes to, do I see a lot of narcissism and borderline in these communities? Probably no more than I see in any other community, to be honest. There's always going to be narcissists. There's always going to be crazy people. I do understand why you think that. I absolutely do. But you have to understand, again, a lot of socialists and communists, we're talking like the real ones, they've been indoctrinated into this ideology from the time they were children. And so for many of them, it really is kind of a sad thing. They've had parents that have taught them this ideology. Socialists and communists actually

have child care built into their organizing meetings. So they bring their kids and they play little socialist games in daycare with them to raise them like good little socialist. They take games like Monopoly and they make them communist. I've actually seen this in person. And you get into the public school system and now we're seeing an instance where the public schools have really been captured by the far left since around 2008, 2009, 2010. It started way before that. But they completed their ideological capture 15 years ago. And so now we're seeing the first classes of high school graduates, college graduates that have been entirely indoctrinated into this ideology since they were five years old. And so, well, I certainly do think that narcissism and borderline do have a place of the far left,

just like they do in the right or any other place. There's always crazy people, right? I think the problem is actually much more severe in that these kids don't know anything different. This is what they've been taught by every person that has ever taught them in their entire lives. So that's good insight. I appreciate that. And I'm certain, you would certainly find the character pathology on any far, fill in the blank, you know, any extreme, anything. You're going to find, you're going to find this stuff. And that's a good, that's a good observation. Well, what's coming up for you? Where do you want people to follow, find you? What's the sort of marching orders you'd like to give out? Yeah, the best place to follow me is, of course,

my substack, that would be Carlin, K-A-R-L-Y-N dot substack.com. That's where you can find a massive archive of my content. I do have a lot of content breaking down the mindset of the far-left, lots of clips from the trainings that we've gone into and infiltrated and stuff like that. And of course, people can actually join me to watch far-left organizing calls. I'm doing one today. I'm doing one tomorrow evening. We do them regularly several times a week, so you don't have to wait for the news or the next big protest to come up. You can actually just come and hear what they have to say for themselves. And of course, you can always find my all my links and stuff over at decodeleft.com if people want a more general website.

But that is the very best thing to do is just come. I do daily streams on YouTube Monday through Friday, usually streaming right now, which I'm going to go do right after this. And we watch the far left in real time. So come and see what they have to say. And no one has to take my word for any of this. They can just see the evidence for themselves. Well, I've seen you post the evidence.

So it's pretty dramatic. So thank you, Carlin. I appreciate your work. And hopefully we'll talk to again soon. Thank you. You got it. All right. I have to run quickly today.

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