Ask Dr. Drew - Hollywood’s Real Rebels: Gary Sinise (Lt. Dan in Forrest Gump) & Siaka Massaquoi (Raided By FBI After Jan 6) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 504

Episode Date: July 7, 2025

Gary Sinise – a veteran actor known widely for his role as Lt. Dan in Forrest Gump – discusses his foundation’s efforts to support veterans and his son’s legacy after a tragic loss. Siaka Massaquoi (Lethal Weapon / SWAT) reveals what happened when the FBI raided his North Hollywood home after January 6 Capitol protests, and his reaction to receiving a pardon from President Trump. Siaka Massaquoi is an actor and activist who fought for freedom during the Covid lockdowns. He was raided by the FBI for entering the Capitol on January 6 and later pardoned by Trump. He contributes to DailyWire and Fox News. More at https://instagram.com/siaka_massaquoi Gary Sinise is an actor and founder of the Gary Sinise Foundation. He is famously known for his role as Lt. Dan in the Forrest Gump movie. His 2019 memoir, Grateful American, was a NYT bestseller. He advocates for U.S. service members and their families. More at https://garysinisefoundation.org and https://x.com/garysinise 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 Find out more about the brands that make this show possible and get special discounts on Dr. Drew's favorite products at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/sponsors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • ACTIVE SKIN REPAIR - Repair skin faster with more of the molecule your body creates naturally! Hypochlorous (HOCl) is produced by white blood cells to support healing – and no sting. Get 20% off at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/skinrepair⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/fatty15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/paleovalley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • VSHREDMD – Formulated by Dr. Drew: The Science of Cellular Health + World-Class Training Programs, Premium Content, and 1-1 Training with Certified V Shred Coaches! More at https://drdrew.com/vshredmd • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twc.health/drew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠) and Susan Pinsky (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/firstladyoflov⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠e⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All right, today we are dedicating to actors. People get quite excited about actors having political opinions. Perhaps it's the types of political opinions or the way they express them. So today we're gonna do something a little different. We're gonna hear from Siaka Masakoi. He of course has a very storied career as an actor.

He's had several different lives. He's also run for government. He's got a lot to tell us. He's also been rated for having been a January sixer. He has a lot to tell us. He contributes to daily war and Fox News. You can follow him on X underscore Siaka, S-I-A-K-A, Massacoy, M-A-S-S-A-Q-U-O-I.

And then when Siaka and I finish up, we're going to talk to Gary Sinise. I think everyone knows Gary Sinise from, of course, Forrest Gump, Lieutenant Dan. And he has written a best seller and he's been advocating for US service members and their families for quite some time. We're gonna hear from him as well.

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Hey doc, I was just taking some notes about what you were just saying. I wanted to make sure that I remember, cause I need that. My wife always tells me you got any more fat. Nicotinamide riboside, nicotinamide riboside, PQQ, resveratrol, C19. These are like, we can do things about extending life now.

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one or the other. So, listen, I got a billion questions for you. Let me just start with simple things. When I looked you up, I was immediately referred by Wikipedia to a King Siaka Masukoi. Who is that? And how did that get selected from you?

I understand you originally were born in Liberia, right? Is that a connection? No, I was born in Rochester, New York, but I'm first generation, my mom, my dad, everyone. I'm actually, there is a connection there. I'm actually named after King Siaka Massacre. In our family, the Massacre was every generation we it's like tradition to name at least one kid Siaka to pass on the name. So yeah, it was actually pretty wild, I just learned about kind of the details I knew about him in this kind of uh, mythical standpoint within our family

But I didn't know like the details of his life till about three four years ago. I started to do more research It's like boom blew my mind. So yeah And as he was he a West African King is that where that trauma? Yeah. Yeah. Yes. He was right out there in the early on library. Yeah. It's interesting. I mean, the history of that region is so important to the history of the world. And yet very few people know.

I mean, the only thing I know of is the Mali king that was the richest guy in the world that went around probably a thousand years before Massacua. And he crashed all the economy. He was so wealthy, he was able to crash all the economies in the world because he just handed out gold as he went across Europe. Well, I tell you a cool little point too,

was that King Siaka Mascaw is the only African royal to get a crown from a European nation, which is from, which the Mascula family they still have in the family today. So you can see some pictures of that. And then I found out through my wife, because after we got married, she was like, let me look up this name and find out what's going on. We have one of the first diplomats that went from Liberia to Germany. His name was Mamalu Massaquoi, who was the last king of Sierra Leone. So there is a book called The First Diplomat that was a biography about him. And so I've

been reading about my great-great-grandfather over the last, you know, I got that book about two years ago now, so it's pretty wild. My family is- Yeah, keep reading. Keep reading. I think somebody, very few people understand that region and it just has had such an impact on everything.

And, you know, so I'm all about it. All right, so you became you you were a football player at Iowa and then you became an actor and what was the transition to sort of more politically active? Well for me it's because before I got into acting in college I was gonna be a history teacher I loved history I love history I love And so to me, a statement that always threw me off was you don't discuss that will say you don't discuss politics and religion in a public forum. And I'm like, both of those things inform, like whether stop signs come up in your neighborhood or

not, whether you're going to pay a little more for your schooling. Those are hugely important points of view to kind of know what your neighbors and what you guys are thinking for a community. And so that always was kind of like in the back of my mind, I was in student government in high school and all that. But yeah, I focused on acting, got into that, but it wasn't until the shutdown, the COVID, the COVID shut that will mix Trump being elected in 2016, being in LA and watching people that I've known lose their mind, like literally lose their mind and let the nastiest part of them kind of come out and feel and then get validation for that nasty. But in 2020, with the shutdowns and that summer of love, seeing that the same industry that I was so worried about saying my beliefs in,

my career, started a bail fund for these mostly peaceful protesters that were killing people around our country and destroying neighborhoods, including the South Side where my mom was living. I was just like, you know what, I'm done. I'm like, I don't care anymore. I don't care about what they think about me anymore. I'm going to just keep going to the what? I'm done. I'm like, I don't care anymore. I don't care about what they think about me anymore. I'm going to just keep going to the round. We can start going to these Trump rallies that are in Beverly Hills on the start. God gave me a gift in order to speak, put thoughts together in ways that maybe some other people couldn't because I saw a lot of great feedback and, and people felt moved

to want to take action. And one of the things they used to say at speeches at rallies was if you hate, if you hate what you're seeing where your school board, you get involved and you hate what you see in the city council, you get involved, you get involved, you get involved. And then I started getting DMs saying, Hey, thank you for saying that. Cause I'm running for mayor as a small town or a city council or this, and they're gonna say, well, when are you getting involved? Or what are you going to run? And I'm just like, I'm just an actor, right? I thought to myself, well, I can't keep telling people to do something. I'm not willing to do so. I was like, well, in 22, I'm like, well, you know, we'll get into the raid.

But frustrated over the raid that happened in 21. I'm like, you know what? Let's throw my name in the hat. Let's get the messaging out there in this neighborhood, because not only are the incumbents not talking to people in LA for the most part, but the opposition doesn't. So the messaging never gets out. So people in these areas just think, oh, it's just only left just because it's left. Why? Because there's nothing else coming in to show them opposite. So I learned a lot running for office. And I really think it's important. I really think

it's kind of like how every Jew in Israel has a certain IDF. I really think it's important. I really think it's kind of like how every Jew in Israel has to serve the IDF. I really believe everyone should do some part of civil service or get into political life in some way, whether it's help a campaign run for office or donate. But go see what it is and you'll start to see kind of what we're really missing. Very surprising. But go see what it is and you'll start to see kind of what we're really missing very surprising Yeah, I I always quote There's somebody by the way giving you a big up to Siaka as a fellow first generation who had the right kind of immigrant parents But I always I always quote Alexis de Tocqueville

who wrote Democracy in America, Frenchman came here in 1820 to try to figure out why democracy work and his consistent point of view was that local practice of democracy was the reason democracy worked in America. And that's what you're advocating for and we sort of have an obligation to do that.

And I completely agree with you. But I'm sorry we lost you in California. You've retreated to the great state of Tennessee. Are you going to get active there? Yes, I am actually. Actually, I'm gonna be starting a new nonprofit and I will just wait before I announce it completely, but I am involved in that.

I already spoke at a couple of events here in the county that I'm in, but I'm going to take my time getting involved because Los Angeles over the last four years was really intense. It was ground zero for a lot of, from the COVID restrictions to the anti-Trump stuff that it was, it was, it was a lot that the parents, the school stuff that are, it was a lot, the parents, the school stuff that was going on. It was a lot. The school stuff and school closure and the mandates and the masking and the vaccines.

It was insane, the totalitarian overreach. But you had a very specific threat that I've heard people speak on repeatedly, which is as an actor, you would just get destroyed by your peers and by the organizations within acting just for having a political opinion. And isn't that undemocratic? Isn't that what that is? I actually think it is undemocratic, but even more it's on, on artists, if you will, right? One of the reasons I became an artist was because I, you know, in the, where I was living and the, and where I was going for us before, it was like, well, you kind of have to be in a certain box

and being an actor and getting to play different characters and be on different sets, different ideas. I saw that as an industry that was promoting different thought patterns. And so when I started probably, you know, from like 20, basically after Trump got elected, I started seeing it get turned off and people going, you know, if you are this, I don't want anything to do with you.

And it happened to me, I was done this, I was connected with this one or a woman who, at the time we were good friends. And I know you talked about, you talked about addiction, alcoholic, and she was going through her issues and, and I was on a better side of it. And I allowed her to stay in my house for, you know, a couple of months at a time. And we started doing a project about core stories out of Africa, right? We wanted, we had a bunch of different people together from that first generation and wanted to do like a mini-seed almost like

a black mirror, but with, but with African horror story and yeah, it was pretty cool. But I was at the Trump rally in Beverly Hills and I get a text from her was like, is this you and is a picture of me and there's this guy named Stephen Davis, known as Maga Hulk, who's like the six, six black dude, just super big, but I call him Maga Hulk and he's wearing the make America great again at, and then she sent me another picture of me and four other guys, all of them were black. But because we're at the Trump rally with Maga hats, she said to me, I'm going to have to remove you from the project because we believe we're not racist and we care about

black people. Mind you, both pictures, she said me for her evidence. Was she black? Yes. Yes. So everybody, everybody associated from the picture to the conversation with black women, she tells me, well, we support black people. That's why I can kick you off.

And I'm like, well, this is, we must assail, we must assail that kind of thinking because think about what that is, that is the most narcissistic of all the signaling that is out there, which is, hey, I hate you, first of all, that's already bizarre, or I reject you, cancel you, you can't exist,

which is about as violent as you can get, because, hey, I care more than you, and you don't care, but me, I care, I'm so important, I care so much. Yeah, and yet doing something for anybody, no, no, no, I just care. And then I discharge that emotion. Brilliant. Yeah, and that's the thing that always got me because I would hear this stuff,

but like, and I don't say this to brag or anything, but friends of mine, like me and one buddy would go out and for about five months, every Sunday we went to, or every Saturday, we went to Skid Row and we would do, you know, we'd give out free food and clothing there. Before the shutdown happened in 2020 I was going to a juvenile detention centers every Tuesday and speaking to you know, young kids there and

Woman that cares so much was doing just as much as you I'm sure she cares so much that she was so she was there every day Right. Oh, no, it all okay Yeah, it's like, do it rules for the, not for me, as, uh, Steven always says, you know, it broke my heart, but, um, and we can get into it. The, the kind of, I said, the growth process now would call it just birthing pains. I think when we transition is we all go through that has been kind of crappy all one end, but then on the other side has been extremely joyful. And I mean, one of the reasons I'm wearing this, you know, gratitude hat because everything good and bad

that has happened to me, I'm so grateful because of where I am today and my connection with the Lord and the people who have come in my life and friendships that have been created. Doc, I'm telling you, it's like, people I've known for, it's like it. People I've known for decades shut off like this.

And there are people who have shown up in my life over the last few years who have been there for the birth of my kid. Yeah. You know, Xavier, baby. And and been there. Amazing. Yeah. Oh, that's that's our news right there. She was just so bad as I was. Yeah. Olive Aveya. She was just born so that is Oliver. Yeah, Oliver Vea, she was just born yesterday at 6.30. And-

Oh, wow. She's one of those alert babies. You know, watch out. This one's going to do something. Oh, I know. You should see her brother. Looking right at the camera. Yeah.

Wow. Her and her brother, they're going to be, her brother's 15 months old. So we got two under two where we're, we're really, we'd like to live on the edge here in our family. So, uh, we're looking forward to it. Have you written any books? Not yet, but I am writing my book now,

cause I think the time is right for this, or tell my full now, because I think the time is right for this, where I can tell my full story, including J6, but then also kind of what I was seeing growing up and getting to this point and the acting and everything to do that. Well, let's talk about J6 a little bit. One of the things you said, before we do that, one of the things you said to me, I thought was kind of interesting,

before the cameras heated up here, you said that we need to get better at story, I think you said. And I'm gonna let you riff on that a little bit, but let me just frame it first by saying, one of my great sources of frustration with my camp, liberal camp, is the reliance and the complete subversion or what would I subjugation of any ideas to something they call narrative and narrative can be completely detached from

reality doesn't have to have any connect to the reality only has to be emotional subjective you know it that's it and so I've been very very leery of narrative I want facts I want logic I want to be what's pragmatic but I know that humans learn and respond through story so have at it yeah I mean that's so we're talking about kind of the big swath, right? Like how do you get the impact on the biggest population? And to your point, you like, you know, give me data. I like data too. But what moves the heart? And it is something that hit me when I ran for office, right?

I walked, I was doing walking around neighborhoods. I knocked on this door, the lady opened it up and she recognized me from my Babylon B sketches, uh, California moved to Texas. So she starts laughing. Gives me a big hug. Uh, the only, the whole time I'm there, we're just talking about, yeah, LA is crazy and like, oh, the show's so funny before I get home. She sent me a $500 donation and that hit me.

Boom. What, what got her there? Cause we all agreed on the facts on the table. We all agreed that it was like, this sucks, that sucks, the parents and stuff, all that. But what moved her? The fact that I could make her laugh. It's why do you see Dave Chappelle come on the stage and before he says anything, you start laughing is because once they capture the heart, once you're able to capture the heart, which is done through storytelling, true or not true storytelling is still done there, you're able to then shift and sway people's kind of understanding or idea of what they want out of life. Now, what I believe that we can do, and I said it earlier, especially on the side of defense, so, you know, we're conservative or Republican,

most of us on this side believe in Jesus Christ. And by believing in him, you have to remember he was the greatest storyteller that ever lived. That's how he captured. He wasn't in there and you can go look, he doesn't say, I'm God, follow me or go to hell. No, he told stories. And that captured people's hearts so much that it changed the world. Where on the right, I feel like, and I love all these guys from your Ben to your Charlie to, you know, to Dave Did Dave Rubin any any one of these guys they'll give you the stats and while it's wrapped up in the comedy of errors of the left It's still not telling a story so I think capturing the the willow and the heart of the people can be

It can be harder because it's a choir case if you like Charlie or not, then that's just it You're not gonna sit and listen to him, right? And so what I've been trying to push over these last four or five years and talking to companies, your daily wire turning point is like, we need series. We need something that's going to come into people's rooms every day or once a week, and they can relate to the characteristics of these individuals, right? So when you can sit there and you can identify, for example, in the early two thousands, we had friends. And so you'd be, you know, where people would go, you're such a Rachel, you're such a Ross.

I'm like a this, it's like, how many times do you pair people say, I'm a Ben Shapiro? I think, you know, I'm a Charlie Kirk. No, even though those guys are influential, it's the character that we try to emulate. It's the, it's the, um, it's the attributes and characteristics that can be easier to connect with and so I think on the right just like old Hollywood statement we need to start showing and stop telling we need to start to show if we're saying this is a better way of Living why don't we show how much fun it is to be a father how much fun it is to be in a committed relationship How much fun it is to remember where you come how much fun it is to be in a committed relationship, how much fun it is to remember where you come from

and hold up the values of this country. We gotta start showing it. Have more barbecues, that's what I'm a big fan of. Get out there and have more barbecues, people. I'll join you, I'm there. You're in the right part of the country now. So I always said when we were doing Love Line that back in the day on MTV and radio and whatnot,

was that the story was the case, the individual caller that came in with their story. It was a case. And then you add comedy and music. You didn't mention music. Music is another thing that moves people. So comedy, story, music. Music is the biggest.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so those three, if you can bring some of them in. Well, it's like a Bryson Gray right now. And you know, you see a lot of the Christian music or the right music that's been moving forward. It's it gets you always say music describes your emotions with words without stumbling. You know what? Even when we're having this conversation here, there's the, uh, um, music is just the clean description of your emotion without stumbling such a smooth way. And that's why you can remember a song that you heard when you're in junior high, standing

next to that girl you had a crush on, even if you hadn't heard it in 20 years, cause it hits you boom right here I also think that's why you see a lot of um Terrible issues in music too because it of how powerful it can be for good Let's quickly go over Your experience at j6. What what got you there? What did you think after you after you wandered around? and uh How shocking was it to have the the FBI show up at your house? Man, well, first going there,

that was my third time in DC in about five months. My reasoning was, honestly, I was like, man, this is gonna be an historic day. I wanna kind of just be there and see what happens. Part of it was I believed that everyone's cell phones were going to be the narrative breaker for what the left was going to say. I knew the left was going to say something. I knew they were going to make it seem like it was worse than whatever happened was. But I felt then at the time, I think naively was, Oh, everyone

had whether it was 500,000 people or plus you have 500,000 cameras, i.e., you know, a video recordings that can then come on, you know, a bunch of people, period witnesses. And we saw, we, we saw with the J six committee and they, you know, held back six, 60,000 hours that could have helped a lot of people. But when I was there outside of it being cold, it was one of the warmest experience that I had when, you know, listen to the speech. Then we ended up going after he said, patriotically and, uh, you know, go, go march to the Capitol.

I have your voices heard. We started going and the friend I was with, I'm like, at this point, I've been going to rallies since, uh, probably April of 2020. So I'm like, okay, I get rallies. It's too cold. I'm going back in this side of the hotel. And so I go inside and I'm always curious about how the other side frames anything as is me. I like to hear both sides because I lived, I said, uh, institutionally captured on one side for too long. And so then I said, let me, I turned on MSNBC. I see a reporter

talking down about the event, making it sound like it was not only desperate, it was also dangerous. And I'm like, no, I'm going to put my shoes on, go stand behind her and be that crazy black dude you always see. And they'll be like, no, you're crazy. Wear my MAGA hat and be like, look, I'm not white. And so I start walking down and as I walk down from the Marriott next to the Freedom Plaza, people are coming back the other way. And, you know, I'm just like, Hey, how you doing? And I'm

like, Hey, is it over? Like, no, there's still people over there. I'm like, okay, I head down and, and I just see a big group of individuals is walking around. I look over and I see the American flag hanging over the scaffold. I actually ran into individuals walking around. I look over and I see the American flag hanging over the scaffold. I actually ran into Stephen Davis there I mentioned earlier and literally just bumped into him. And we're like, oh, and some lady recognized us from the Beverly Hills rally.

So we started doing a, did an interview. We sang the national anthem. Then as I get closer to the Capitol building, as I walked upstairs, that's when I started smelling that the remnants of tear gas. I actually then saw there, the kind of a crowd standing below where cops standing above a little elevated area.

And people were just like standing there. And one lady jumped up and kind of started dancing funny. Like just being an idiot, wasn't anything crazy. Cop pushes her down and then sprays her in a whole group with bear spray. And I'm just like, wait, what? Like that was a little over the top. And, and so then I walk around, I'm recording and I go to a side door where

people were walking in and I say, Oh, is this where they're letting people in? And then I heard somebody go, Oh yeah. So we start kind of meandering in, like we're going to a concert or, or whatnot or a football game. And, uh, I get stopped as I get right past the threshold. I get stopped maybe a foot or two inside. And there are a couple of cops standing right onto my left. And there are cops, probably 20 or 30 of them standing

against the wall just hanging out. They definitely didn't feel like what the media was telling people at the time. Then one cop came over. I was like, hey, I need you guys to go back the other way now. I'm like, OK, we're being reasonable, sir. We're passing on your directive. I turn and I say that to go back the other way now. I'm like, OK, we're being reasonable, sir. We're passing all your directive. I turn and I say that to the same to people behind me. And we clear the door out the doorway altogether.

That was 71 seconds in that doorway. I walk around some more and then see people just kind of hanging around, like screaming back and forth through the cop. There are some people screaming at the cops, but it wasn't anything too crazy. I actually did see a couple of guys try to push other men forward which Was very weird because leaders don't and real men don't push other people front of their clothes. They say follow me, right? As I was leaving I kind of joking I look over to my right I see the cars parked and I say to people walking next to Me I go, huh? This is a BLM Riley this all these cars would be burnt right now we all started laughing you know and we

head back I go back to the hotel I fly home the next day didn't think anything anything of it and then about a week later raids started happening I started going after people I'm like well okay but I was I'm pretty after people and I'm like, well, okay, but I was, I'm, I'm pretty public by, I don't wear any military type gear outside of like, maybe that American shirt right there. Actually, I got the same one on the day. And you didn't have a, you don't have a Buffalo hat on. No, no, no, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't do what Jake did. I was just like, and in fact, I remember going, I thought that guy's a plant when I remember seeing him there.

And none of that stuff. And I was like, well, you know, when I do my stuff, I always try to bring a little bit of humor behind it, a little bit of fun to show we could still fight, but fight joyously. And I didn't think that they would even look my way until June 10th of 21, pre-dawn raid, it came into my house. They got my roommates, my god-sons, they got the other two roommates, and then I was waking up out of a fog

hearing FBI, FBI, thinking it was a dream, and I'll never forget just going, no way, you gotta be kidding me, not me. I didn't have a bunch of followers, I'm broke, I don't have money like that, and so I'm like, why just me? I thought they were kind of going after bigger names or the proud boys or whoever. And now they're going after everyone. Um, and so when I opened my room door down my hallway,

as I walk out, my dog runs past me, two agents turn, boom, the ARs has pointed right in my face with all I could see is the light and there's silhouette and there's FBI hands in there. And I say, Hey, please don't shoot my dog. Um, they say friendly dog, friendly dog. Cause there are some people getting their dog shot and killed. Um, and so took us all out. I was yelling, I need to see a warrant.

The agent was like, well, this isn't an arrest. So it's not one of those like, you know, you only see I've talked to my lawyer goes, that's not what this is. And he talked to me later, he goes, duck, we see you on social media. We know you're not violent. That's why this is not an arrest.

So they took my computer, my cell phone, both computers, my cell phones, my flash drives, even my MAGA hat, but they didn't arrest me or charge me that day. Now for three years in between that raid, um, I was on a no flight or I was on an extra security fly list called the quiet sky. So that means every time I flew, I had to go check my identity at the front desk that took about 45 minutes an hour. I had to TSA full body check of my stuff, everything else that I was caring when I got to the game,

they would do the full body check again. So if I had like a Diller ad to exchange or change flights somewhere else to get to my final destination, Oh, I was always late. I've missed flight. Oh my God. I would be checked three or four times before I would even get to my destination. So yeah. And then they ended up arresting me on November 30th of 23, coming back from Tennessee to L.A. after the premiere of Lady Ballers with Daily Wire, which I

was in that movie. My wife was seven months pregnant with my son at the time. And as soon as I stepped foot on the tarmac, an agent came in front of me and was like, Siak,amasko come with us. Two agents jump on either side. And they said, you know, we're gonna have to arrest you for, and you know what for? I go, no, you're gonna tell me what you're arresting me.

They're like, for you being there January 6th. It's like, I didn't do it. I was a little more pissed than I am explaining now, but they took me to jail that night. And when they took me to jail, my- Do you have any contact with those FBI agents since? They should be ashamed of themselves. Should be embarrassed.

No, I haven't. And hopefully they get rid of them because everyone who raided and arrested J-6ers, they got bonuses, just so everyone knows. They got bonuses. That's why their budget ballooned after 2021 and all the operations Unbelievable. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. So it was when he said me down. He were pardoned

Yes, I was the part. Well, what happened? So when they set me down and showed me what my charges were it was like Yeah So when they set me down and showed me what my charges were, it was like, all, all, it was all four misdemeanors. And I'm like, wait, you raided my house, you kept my stuff all this time. And I've been on this, the security flight list for three years. He arrested me at the tarmac in front of my wife and other people. And they were all for misdemeanors. So, you know, we go through that process and my court day was actually set for January 21st of 2024 or 2025. Yeah, 2025.

And so after Trump wins, the lawyers like, Hey, court, can we push it out? Because he's got a partner right. And the judge is like, no, see you here on the 21st. And so we had to fly to DC on the 21st. Wake up. I get a text that night on the 20th and All you know all January six years were in the sense pardoned or cases dropped that morning I get an official letter from the court saying that all my charges were dropped with prejudice meaning that they can never bring it back

up against me again and It was it was surreal And it was surreal. An FBI former FBI agent told me the punishment is the process. And that's what they want to put as many people through as possible. Financially, luckily enough, I was helped by so many donations out there

because I know a lot of people took plea deals because they couldn't afford 100 grand to fight misdemeanors. And that was done on purpose. to afford a hundred grand to fight misdemeanors. And that was done on purpose. I'm so mortified, but I'm thinking of the gratitude statement on your hat and how these experiences and the excesses,

the totalitarian excesses in California and COVID, and now your January 6th raids, how those revealed things that I bet you like me never believed were possible in this country. I just didn't understand that this, we could do this, or that my profession would do the things it did, that the government would do, that the public health would do the things it did,

that the FBI would do the things it did. It's just uncanny to me that we live through that. But I'm grateful that we've gotten through it and it exposed itself to us. And now we can insist on our freedom on the other side. Well, you know, I think you're a hundred percent right that if it was gonna happen, it happened in a country like America because,

and my mom told me this two years ago. My grandfather was the main pastor at the main church back in Liberia. And he used to speak about politics, the pulpit and, and, uh, the administration came to him and told him to stop speaking on it. He said, no, a week later, his driver set up a crash to get him killed, which it did. So that's how it works in other countries where, whether it's through the driver or we've seen, you know, I think Mexico, there's 36 people shot or assassinated before this last presidential election. Please, you know, fact check me on that. But it was a double digit.

It's like, that's the difference. So as terrible as it was for so many of our year. Oh Man, it's it's so hot like it's so fortunate that if it happens it happens here because our Constitution I believe is set up so that it can't snap back and fight against this in the long run There's other places like I just explained where you're just done. You're you're gone as you're on the wrong side of power where you're just done, you're gone as you're on the wrong side of power. I get it. Well, listen, my friend, I appreciate you being here. I appreciate the fights you're fighting

and that you're being a wonderful parent. And I hope we can see you again in acting. I mean, many people I know that don't want to go back to acting because they no longer have their kind of appreciation of their peers. They're like, if these are the people with this is how they are able to pay I don't want to be around them, but I hope you will and keep fighting the fight

Well, do you want people to go to find you? Well check and we're gonna do next well check me out on X and Underscore siaka masco on Instagram at siaka underscore masco, but I got this this this day. Hey, is that Gary? We're gonna get him in just a second I got this this this day. Is that Gary? Or am I going in? We're going to get him in just a second. But you can also you can see this this winter. I'm in a musical Christmas movie called The Best Thing About Christmas. That's I'm super excited about.

I just got brought on as an actor and producer of a movie coming up called Baby Shower, a pro-life comedy, which is amazing. I was in vindicating Trump, the January 6th movie with the guys at the B and we are just getting ready to do season two of California Move the Texas. So I do believe acting is still a gift the Lord gave me and I'm not turning away from that.

I think we just do it on this side and there's opportunities open enough. Well, congratulations. I hope you will keep us posted and let us come to premieres or repost your stuff. I am following you on X right now. So I got you. So I'll be looking for you.

DM me sometime. We'll be just in person. Yeah, same here. We are officially friends. All right, my friend. Thank you so much for having me. And I'll tell Corolla hi for you. Okay, we're going to take a quick break

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Dr. Drew. Gary Sneas needs no introduction, but I will do so in nonetheless. He came into our lives as a tenant, Dan, and Forrest Gump, and he has been an extraordinary advocate for veterans and those who fight for our freedom. You can follow Gary on X, Gary Sinise, S-I-N-I-S-E, also the Gary Sinise Found,

and also Gary Sinise Official on Instagram, and Gary Sinise Foundation on Instagram as well. Gary, thank you so much for joining me. Thanks so much for having me. Good to be with you. Looking great, sir. Let's talk about the meaning of July 4th and what we should all be thinking

as we take a beat to give thanks on the 4th of July. Well, it's a great holiday. Obviously we have some birthdays coming up here. So it's very exciting what's going to be happening. But this is an acknowledgement of our independence, obviously, and what it takes to keep us free. I remember in an early age, I mean, I'm sure you can remember our Fourth of July parades and I was in many of them as a like a Cub Scout and riding in the parades. I remember early on in Highland Park, Illinois, where I grew up and started Steppenwolf Theater. I remember getting on a some one of our board

members had a old fire truck and we would get on that fire truck every 4th of July and ride in the parade and promote Steppenwolf Theater and flags would be everywhere. And it's just a, you know, it's a great holiday to celebrate our independence and to acknowledge and remember what it takes to keep us free. There's a lot of men and women who have sacrificed

over these many years to do that. Yeah, I was just talking to Siak a few minutes ago and he was talking about his expressions of gratitude. And one of the things we were discussing was, you know, so many of us, I think, were lulled into some sort of apathy that freedom was just something that we took for granted or it's just, we're at a point in human history where people understand that freedom was just something that we took for granted or it's just we're at a point in human history

where people understand that freedom is an essential part of thriving. And yet we just went through several experiences, COVID mandates, all these crazy things, where the government with great ease came into our lives and into our bodies and stepped in. And it made many of us think, oh my God, we cannot take freedom for granted.

And as soon as you do that, you naturally think about veterans. Well, you're absolutely right about that. I started going on trips overseas to the war zones and various places where our troops were deployed many, many years ago, two or three decades ago. And one of the places that I went early on, probably 2004, so it's over 20 years ago, is the DMZ between North and South Korea.

And when you stand on that border, I don't know if you've ever been there, but it's one of the most interesting places because on one side, the side over here, it's free. There's freedom here. And if you're looking at North Korea over here, it's slavery there. And at one point on one of my trips to the DMZ, I've been there three or four times, North Korean guards, you can see them up on this, in front of this building and they have binoculars and they're watching you and

On one of these trips those North Korean guards walked all the way down to the little cinderblock Border, I mean you can step over the border you saw I think you saw President Trump do that When he visited the DMZ he stepped right over into North Korea. Well, you can do that. And these North Korean guards came down and they were two feet away from me. And I was staring at a North Korean guard, the rock soldiers, the Republic of Korea soldiers

behind me, they understand what freedom is. And this poor guy who's staring me in the face had no concept of what living in a free society means. He's been brought up to worship the supreme leader and that's it. And you know, when you go to places like that, that really don't know what freedom is, you value your own freedom, all that more, and you value the people that are willing to defend it and protect it, all that more. Yeah. That and that story reminds me of other things that the last few years have sort of exposed us to,

which is something, again, I naively thought humans had sort of gotten over, was their tendency to be brainwashed or swept into hysterias like in 1935 Germany and things. Lo and behold, we're quite capable of it still. Well, sure. Yeah, sure. And now it's intensified, isn't it?

Because of the internet? I mean, it's so much more intensified because of what, the misinformation or the lies, all the things that we believe that we read that appear to be true, but they're not. So it's all of that is intensified. And you really do have to be proactive in how you assimilate your information

and how you process it. Oh man, you know, I've, I've, my understanding now is I can trust literally nothing in the press. I mean, I'll listen, but I don't trust any of it is accurate. I mean, nothing, zero, but I'll still listen. And then, but the really interesting thing that started happening to me lately is I,

I'm having trouble like finding my way, like who are the good guys, who are the bad guys, who's crazy, who's not. You get, it's, you know, with all this, as you said, the inundation with information, you can get lost really easily. Totally, totally. And you have to, you have to be very, I mean, how many times have you had some friend pass

on a piece of information to you that they saw on the internet or something like that, and it looks absolutely legitimate. And you go, wait a minute, this doesn't seem right. And then you go and you do your search and you send it back to them and say, you better be careful about what you're sending out there. It's so easy to be sucked in. Well, Gary, I wish that was the story I could tell,

but instead it's like, oh my God, retweet. Oh, then I find out that it's not true. I'm like, so yes, I do. And somebody blames you, yeah. I get attacked. Yeah, I get attacked, exactly right. And so, but it has taught me to be very careful with what I read and as you said, the misinformation,

the problem is, the real problem is I don't want anybody deciding for me what is or is not misinformation. That's the real danger we're getting into with these sorts of topics. Yeah, it's so easy to get sucked in because so much of it can appear to be very, very legitimate. And I'm just suspect about a lot of things.

Think about AI, it's gonna get worse. Yeah, how is it not gonna get worse? It's gonna get more and more intense and we have new generations that all they do is watch this stuff. So they're gonna buy into a lot of it and there's gonna be a lot of bad information out there for sure.

Although I'm a little more, Garry, I'm a little more, Gary, I'm a little more positive these days because I'm seeing parents really resist the screens. Previous generation kind of leaned into it as a babysitting instrument. And I think the current crop of young parents get that it's going to negatively affect their kids' mental health at just the minimum impact

is going to make them unhappy and worse, you know, God knows what else can happen as a result. These kids are exposed to so much. Oh, you're, it's so easy to, you know, you have a little five-year-old, little six-year-old, they're antsy, they're crazy, they're bouncing off the walls here and there, you're in a restaurant or something like that. How easy is it to just go, here, here you go, you know, stare at that for a while, while I eat my dinner. A lot of people do that. I know that, but you know, you have to separate

something like that from just letting them absorb these screens all day long. That is very, very damaging and people have to be worried about it. That is very damaging and people have to be worried about it. For sure. So let's kind of get into the meaning of the fourth and the foundation. What do you want people to know about the foundation? I understand there are specific four programmatic pillars of the foundation. Yes, we have just entered our 15th year.

So we just celebrated our 14th anniversary. Thank you. Launched the foundation publicly on June 30th, 2011. I was the first donor, put up all the startup money, all of that. We created a website, so it was ready when we launched it. We were at the National Press Club, launched it. A lot of media coverage around it, so we were immediately taking in donations and people going to the website to learn about what we were doing in the beginning. In the beginning, we had several programs, but not nearly what we have now because we have the resources now having

built up our donor base over a number of years and having succeeded in a lot of our activities over the years. We have a fairly substantial donor base. We always want to do more at the Gary Sinise Foundation. There are many initiatives at the Gary Sinise Foundation and programs. We have, you know, we provide grants, we provide transportation, we provide housing, we provide food, we provide support. I take my band out. I've played almost 600 concerts on military bases and military hospitals over the years to provide, you know, morale boost and, you know, support, making sure the men and women who are serving our country out there and their families

know that we're not forgetting about them when they're out there. I'm about to go on another four show concert trip next weekend, going to Fort McCoy and I'm going to Rockaway to do a big support the vets concert out there, Warrior Weekend in Rockaway. I'll be in a, at Cantini Park in Wheaton, Illinois for a big rock and the vets kind of concert.

So we're out there all the time. If you go to garyceneesfoundation.org, you can learn a lot about our programs and you can go to our YouTube channel and you can view dozens and dozens of videos that show our programs in action and show the people that we're serving in action. I mean, these are folks we've built almost 100 specially adapted smart technology mortgage free homes for for very very badly wounded service members over the years and these can be life-changing homes when you give a wounded soldier you know service member who's got missing multiple limbs maybe a traumatic brain injury his wife maybe is a full-time caregiver and you give them a mortgage mortgage free house that is specifically designed

to fit their needs that could be a game changer for them and the family and they deserve it you know they've given a lot and all we have to do is raise some money and you know build them a house and so we have lots of lots of wonderful corporations and companies that come in and help us with these homes we do all kinds of stuff at the Gary Sinise Foundation. I really encourage people to go to our foundation website and skim around and see all the things we're doing. I don't think anyone is not aware of the Gary Sinise Foundation. And I think if you're not, you do need to go get behind it

and see what they've been up to. You know, and it does, as we're heading into the 4th of July, I just, you know, want to reflect on, first of all, your great service to the people that allowed us to protect our freedoms, but that Abraham Lincoln felt that the founding principle of this country was laid out

in the Declaration of Independence, that we have this wonderful constitution and all these great ideas, but that really the basic idea upon which everything was founded was, all men are created equal. And in order to defend that, we have to defend it on a regular basis

and we can't forget that. Gary, I really appreciate you being here. I will certainly go see what you guys are up to at the garyofcenisefoundation.org and I always wanted to meet you and you do not disappoint. I really appreciate you coming by. Oh, thanks so much for having me. I'll look forward to in-person one day.

I would love that very much. Thank you, Gary. Gary Cenise, everybody go support Gary Sinise Foundation as we think about what we can do during this 4th of July celebration. There's something you can do is go over and support Gary Sinise. Obviously he knows what he's doing to support our troops.

Let me quickly go to what you guys are talking about on the Restream and over on the Rumble Rants. Oh, we have a few naysayers in there. Here we go. Takes care of first responders, that's true. Gary Sinise Foundation is always taking care of first responders, that's right as well. And it's just really nice to have somebody, Gary Sinise,

as we head into the 4th of July. I hope you guys are all planning to do something fun for the 4th. It's a holiday to get together with family, to go to the beach, to, as Siaka was saying, barbecue. He's big on barbecue. I think that's a perfect way to spend the holiday, if you can.

We'll be heading to New York City, and we'll be doing shows from New York City next week. We appreciate as always, it's a chance to think about gratitude as Yaka was saying as well. We appreciate our viewers. We appreciate you over at Rumble. I know you guys put us on the homepage today.

We appreciate that. And if you guys have any questions, this is a chance and you guys are expressing gratitude as well. I see on the restream and we do appreciate that. I'm seeing if you guys have any questions, this is a chance and you guys are expressing gratitude as well, I see on the restream and we do appreciate that. I'm seeing if you guys have any questions or anything, Janice Perkins loves the fourth. Yeah, well, I'm going to be watching the Rose Bowl fireworks display,

which somebody here in the stream was saying this year is going to be a big drone display, which I've not seen a huge drone display on the fourth ever, I don't think. And I know obviously they do them all over the world, but how fantastic to see one cruising over the Rose Bowl. Looking forward, we have a friend that lives near the Rose Bowl and we watch from their house. So we get to see what's going on.

Thank you everybody. I'm just seeing if you have anything else to say, and I don't think so. And the big, beautiful I believe is being signed as we speak. Let me see if that actually happened. Give me one second. Not yet from what I can tell,

but I don't know if Mr. Trump amongst other things is one for the show. And so in my mind, I suspect he'll be, if I'm reading President Trump correctly, I suspect he'll be signing it on the fourth. That sounds like him to me. He'll sign the big beautiful bill on the fourth, or he will get it done this evening

so it is in place by the fourth. I suspect it'll be on the fourth. Fact check. You agree with me, Caleb? Fact check, though. We can no longer call it the big, beautiful Bill Drew because Chuck Schumer had the grand victory of getting the name changed yesterday, or two days ago.

Okay, what do we call it now? Oh, I don't know. He's probably some Bill 2478725 or some weird name, but they're not calling it that anymore because he had the grand victory. And let me do just a quick sketch on Medicaid. I have been through multiple waves of reduction of Medicare resources, Medicaid resources.

And I will tell you what happens. Nobody is denied care in America ever, wherever they are. They get care. Guys like me, we deliver the care for free. Hospitals, they eat it. Now, they try to recoup their expense and the doctors just eat it. It's impossible for us. But the hospitals try to recoup their expense, and the doctors just eat it, it's impossible for us.

But the hospitals try to recoup their expense often from counties. So counties sometimes bear the burden when Medicaid and federal funds and state funds dry up. To some extent, there's a complicated sort of formula there where the counties are getting resources from the state and from the federal government and whatnot. But, you know, I was working in the county system

when it was literally going bankrupt because of situations like this. And at the same time then, and we're gonna head into something like that in California because Governor Newsom quietly has withdrawn funds from the care of undocumented immigrants. So we were dealing with that back in the early 80s as well because there was war in Central America

and people were legitimately running away from that war and ending up in the county system. So I've seen it happen, it will happen again. There seems to be some sort of back and forth we do as regards to this, but this idea that people will die because of Medicaid being restricted, absolutely hogwash. Now, I don't know what's going to happen

as a result of people being nervous about going to a system for medical care that they could be referred to ICE. Again, back in the 80s and 90s, we had the same problem and we were not allowed to ask people about their immigration status. That's how they got around it then. The medical caretakers, we didn't know.

We were blinded to it. And so there were no deportations out of the hospital. So people eventually became more comfortable coming to the hospital. So this is not a new thing. That was 45 years ago, everybody. I was dealing with it then. I've decided that my new frame

for how I talk to the public will be as a time traveler. I come from, I've traveled from a different era. I've traveled forward in time. I've seen an era where we treated psychiatric problems, where we treated addiction. We didn't let them lie down on the sidewalk and die. And we also dealt with this exact same problem with asylum seekers, with undocumented immigrants,

and with lack of Medicaid funds. So same exact thing. This is not a new phenomenon. So stop with the rhetoric, stop with the narrative bullshit, stop it already. Now we'll see how this all shakes out. Maybe in this era it will be different. I don't know.

I know the, I would say that the system, the medical system is better organized to deal with this now than it was back in the 80s. It was very fragmented back then and things ended up always at the county. Now they'll probably end up at community hospitals and things as well. So we'll see, we'll see how this all goes.

But I, as someone who works in and around this system, I am not desperately concerned. I'm concerned about people not coming for healthcare. They need to do so, but they will get care. There's, I've been through probably four incarnations of restriction of medical funding where people have gone on rants about people dying in the streets.

The latest one was, what was it about abortions? Or back alley, back alley, there'll be back alley abortions. No, no, it's a pill. Fast, fast majority of the time. And when people need abortions, they'll get them. They're not allowed to die. And I understand there have been some weird ethical things that doctors have been put in.

We found our way through that. You notice that you don't hear those stories anymore. And there's always a little period of adjustment, but we figured these things out. That is one thing that the medical system in this country does always, we do the right thing. Even as all the craziness swirls around us in terms of the resources and again, the mandates

and now the on-hide mandates from employers and things that we didn't have in the past, which maybe that will adulterate things a little further. I don't know. We'll see. But having said all that, Caleb, let's put up upcoming guests here. We have, we'll be from New York.

I'm not sure we're all set there. Ah, Elizabeth Kucinich, Debbie Lerman again, Lila Mikulwich. She has on a campaign to hold Pornhub Elizabeth Kucinich, Debbie Lerman again, Lila Mikulwich. She has on a campaign to hold Pornhub accountable. It's an incredible story for the sex trafficking that goes on there. There are people who apparently thousands of people

have stuff up there they can't get taken down. Jenny McCarthy on the 17th, David Cahit on the 22nd. Am I pronouncing, how do you pronounce his name? I know, David Hite. Somebody help me with that. Any event, I've got to do something for Fox News right now and the van is here for me to get set up, to get that set up.

So we appreciate you being here. Have a great fourth everybody and we'll see you. Hang on now, did we switch to Monday for the next show? Well, no, not on Monday, but it's on the eighth. So we're on the eighth, we're going to do it at noon Pacific. It'll be a little bit earlier, the two hours earlier. Yeah. Okay. Wednesday at two.

Ninth is regular time. And then that's it. We're just going to do two shows next week, right? Correct? Yes, that's the current schedule. Okay. So I will see you next Tuesday at noon, Pacific, three o'clock Eastern.

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