Ask Dr. Drew - Hope For Gen-Z: Headmaster Mike Fairclough Resigned In Protest Of Lockdowns & mRNA Vaccines For Kids; 18yo Brilyn Hollyhand Fights To Restore Freedom With New Book – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 380

Episode Date: July 15, 2024

UK media called Mike Fairclough “Britain’s most outspoken headmaster” (and “hunky head” 🤔 ) when he resigned in protest over pandemic lockdowns, mask mandates, and mRNA vaccines for children. Brilyn Hollyhand – age 18 – just published his first book about restoring American freedom. Perhaps there’s hope for Gen-Z after all. • SPONSORED BY GOLDEN CREST METALS – In 2024, gold and silver are surging, and experts predict they will continue to climb. Call 1-833-426-3825 or visit https://GoldenCrestMetals.com to request your free info guide! Mike Fairclough was the Headmaster of West Rise Junior School in East Sussex – the only UK headteacher / school principal to have questioned the COVID vaccine rollout to children, lockdowns, and mask mandates. He is the author of “The Hero’s Voice: Finding Courage to Speak Out” available at https://amzn.to/3VWZchs . Follow him at https://x.com/1MikeFairclough and read more at https://substack.com/@mikefairclough Brilyn Hollyhand is an 18-year-old political commentator and strategist. He is Founder and Editor-in-Chief of The Truth Gazette, a conservative news service he established at the age of 11. In 2022, Brilyn earned the John Lewis National Youth Leadership Award from the National Secretaries of State Association. At the beginning of 2023, Brilyn was appointed to co-chair the Republican National Committee’s inaugural Youth Advisory Council. Read “One Generation Away: Why Now Is the Time to Restore American Freedom” by Brilyn Hollyhand at https://amzn.to/4cqUW0F and follow him at https://x.com/BrilynHollyhand 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 Find out more about the brands that make this show possible and get special discounts on Dr. Drew's favorite products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors  • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley • TRU NIAGEN - For almost a decade, Dr. Drew has been taking a healthy-aging supplement called Tru Niagen, which uses a patented form of Nicotinamide Riboside to boost NAD levels. Use code DREW for 20% off at https://drdrew.com/truniagen • COZY EARTH - Susan and Drew love Cozy Earth's sheets & clothing made with super-soft viscose from bamboo! Use code DREW to save up to 30% at https://drdrew.com/cozy • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. 「 ABOUT DR. DREW 」 Dr. Drew is a board-certified physician with over 35 years of national radio, NYT bestselling books, and countless TV shows bearing his name. He's known for Celebrity Rehab (VH1), Teen Mom OG (MTV), The Masked Singer (FOX), multiple hit podcasts, and the iconic Loveline radio show. Dr. Drew Pinsky received his undergraduate degree from Amherst College and his M.D. from the University of Southern California, School of Medicine. Read more at https://drdrew.com/about Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we are welcoming Michael Fairclough. He was the headmaster of the Rise Junior School in East Sussex, UK. He had the wisdom and the intestinal fortitude as a UK headmaster, head teacher, school principal to question COVID vaccine mandates and lockdowns. And he had some very strong opinions about how young people should be educated such as it was. He has a book called The Hero's Voice, Finding Courage to Speak Out. And I thought it was actually Dr. Peter McCullough that said we should speak to him.

He's got a lot to say. And I look forward to talking to him. As well as Breland Hollihan. He's an 18-year-old political commentator and strategist, founder and editor and chief of the Truth Gazette. Generally, the theme today is Gen Z and beyond. Is there hope? Stay with us.

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17th this is very important dr joseph freiman comes in and also dr van watson who created fatty 15 we're going to talk to her she's a very another supplement that can really get behind but fryman has the hope initiative flying around now so uh he's going to convince me to sign that on the air i saw it today he just convinced dr badacharya to sign it he was concerned about throwing the baby out with the bath water harvey reese tommy robinson dave smith july 23rd kelly victory coming back with harry fisher so a lot coming up pay attention uh we continue to do thursdays at noon rather than three while susan's calling out show is at three o'clock if you're interested stop by i may make a cameo appearance on that as well. Today, Mike Fairclough, there we go, Fairclough, spelled Fairclough, F-A-I-R-C-L-O-U-G-H.

So when you look for him on X, it's Mike Fairclough, F-A-I-R-C-L-O-U-G-H. As he and I were discussing off the air for non-English speakers is what drives them crazy about our language. Substack is at Mike Fairclough. Brillin will be here in a few minutes. He has written a book also, One Generation Away,

Why Now is the Time to Restore American Freedom. But Mike was the headmaster of a UK school in East Sussex and was summarily dismissed. This is a story we heard all too often during the darker days of COVID about people who stood up to speak truth to power like our press was supposed to and were suffering the consequences for it. And we should all be getting behind anybody who did so. So please welcome Mike Fairclough to the program. Mike, thank you for joining us.

Thank you. Thank you, Dr. Drew. So let's go ahead, please. Please do. There's going to be a little bit of delay because you were actually you, Dr. Drew. So let's go ahead, please. There's a little bit of delay because you were actually in the UK. So if we seem to jump on each other, it's not that it's that there's a little delay coming from that great distance. So go ahead. You were just going to say. Yeah, just to say it's I think it's an important point to make that um shockingly i was the only uk head teacher or school principal to publicly question the covid vaccine rollout to children so there wasn't anyone else i had lots of colleagues

who privately agreed with me so head teacher colleagues and school principals who um said we feel really uncomfortable about this but they were saying to me you know if I if I speak out this was them speaking there's a risk to my career and reputation etc so it was I you know I feel it's necessary to say that because I this is the key point it's not so much about me it's about this whole issue of people self-censoring out of fear of reprisals and um and when it comes to safeguarding children against harm and particularly if you're in education or you're in the medical profession and you have a legal duty to safeguard children against harm, we've really got to get to a point where people are able to put their self-preservation on the back burner

in favour of protecting children. And I think that's got to be the sort of key message. And if anything of benefit comes out of my experience, I want it to be that it highlights that issue, and we can do something about it. Well, let's dig into it a little bit, not the specifics. I thought we were going to end up talking about some of your, which we'll get to, some of your feelings about how young people should be educated and raised. But let's talk a little bit about this mass formation and the crowd think and the tribalism.

I have found myself, I've just picked up Eric Larson's book in the Garden of the Beasts, Garden of Beasts, which is about the 1930s, 1930s in Germany and how that quickly transformed into what it became. And it's exactly what you're talking about. It is precisely this phenomenon that we live through. And everybody, every one of those people that went along with this, I guarantee you would tell you that they believe they would be one of the good guys in 1933 Germany. They never would have done that. They never would have gone along with that. When in reality, they would have been a prison guard or God knows what, because that's what happens to people who don't stand up and do the right thing. So what do we, how do we get people to admit this and how do we get people to really examine themselves so they

don't do this next time? And how do we educate young people so this doesn't happen to them? What do we do about all this and what safeguards do we have to put in place yeah so um first of all i didn't i i always hoped that i would be that kind of person um but actually i thought in practice if it ever came about sort of obviously studied history and looked at things like uh nazi germany etc but i've also been I haven't always been strong in my life and there's been many many examples where I've been quite flaky and I've kind of like given in and all that kind of stuff but my red line was children and I have four children of my own I've got a 27 year old called Tally a 20 year old called Iggy and then two seven-year-old twin daughters, Luna and Star. And at the time that I was speaking out, I had 365 children in the school where I was the head

teacher. So that was my red line. It was when I could see that there was a possibility that those children could be injured or harmed in some way that I felt I needed to speak out I was never comfortable doing so and I was completely out of my comfort zone and I it I mean I'd had prior to this time I was like the number one head teacher in the country really I had wide positive mainstream media coverage I was in the Guardian I was in the Times I was in the Telegraph I was in The Guardian, I was in The Times, I was in The Telegraph, I was on Channel 4 News. It was like, because basically I ran, also ran a farm at my school and we had a herd of water buffalo.

We had a herd of sheep. I taught the children to shoot 410 shotguns and air rifles and stuff. And of course that generated a lot of media interest. And, but instead of it being seen in a negative light, and air rifles and stuff and of course that generated a lot of um media interest and uh but instead of it being uh seen in a negative light it was celebrated by everyone and you know i could do no wrong really i mean i was giving every single child in my school could light a fire cook over an open fire and they did so every single week alongside their normal lessons of english maths

history science etc um so i had like i was used to kind of being in the public eye, but it was when I was doing, you know, that's like where I come from the countryside, I was brought up shooting, hunting, fishing, all that kind of stuff. But I've never been interested in like the medical world before. And I didn't really know about any of the things about Pfizer or anything until I started looking at it. But that was my red line when I was like and I'll

do the same if I saw a child crossing the road and there were no adults around to help them and there were cars all over the place I would and I would hope that other people would rush into the road and pick up the child and and bring them back but it was shocking that um people who are charged with safeguarding children against harm didn't actually step up now in terms of what to do about it i started analyzing this and writing down my thoughts uh during this um this period of time and i'd i'd been um subjected to three investigations, which had been commissioned by my former employer following anonymous, of course, whistleblowing complaints against me for speaking out.

And each time that those happened, it was elevated in terms of the sort of severity. And I was kind of being framed as an extremist, really, even though I was actually saying everything in a lawful manner. And I was very careful in my communication to make sure that I was sticking to the facts. So I always used to say with regards to the COVID vaccines for children, number one, children are at extremely low risk of serious illness from COVID. Secondly, the COVID vaccines pose known various serious risks.

Thirdly, there's no long term safety data for the COVID vaccines. And finally, a child can still catch and spread COVID when vaccinated against the virus. So I just thought, let's just put that message out. And I was always thinking, I need to think about the fact that I could be talking to people who've got the completely different view to mine, or who are in the balance and just, you know, just try to inform people. And actually, just as a statistic, 89.5% of parents of five to 11, yeah, five to 11 year olds in the uk did not allow their children to have a single dose of the vaccine right so that means that the majority of parents presumably reached the same sort of conclusion as mine even though they were silent now um in terms of uh the kind of thought process

that i had i started to write these things down because it was I felt uh you know isolated uh I felt um quite despairing at times uh when I eventually lost my job it obviously had an impact on my income and my family I'd gone from having this excellent reputation to suddenly uh schools not wanting to employ me um and uh you know it had a a big, big impact. But I started thinking, right, the best way to, and maybe it's not a great sales pitch to do this, but I think the best way to encourage people to speak out about controversial or politically sensitive topics is not to pretend that you're somehow going to be rewarded at the other end, or that it's easy in any way, shape or form. It requires us to move beyond our comfort zones. And so I started to look at the archetype of the mythological

hero's quest as a really good model for the free speech quest, hence the title of my book, The Hero's Voice, where i look at um homer's odyssey for example so all mythological heroes and all free speech uh questers will always begin the the quest with huge resistance and thinking look i don't want to make my life more difficult than it already is it's much safer in the short term to stay within the comfort of the known and certainty than to step out into the quest. But then, of course, one weighs up the pros and the cons of stepping out into the unknown. And in my case, I just thought, OK, if I'm silent, this problem is actually going to eventually come to my door and it will be my children my my my seven-year-old twin daughters and the children in my school who could be subjected to this um medical intervention where there's absolutely no long-term safety data and for a virus which really poses them almost

zero risk so um i thought right need to step out now using this kind of model of the of the hit of the hero's quest um and in the title of my book, The Hero's Voice, is very simply just to say, look, when you embark on this, and you might be talking about another controversial issue, say, I don't know, gender ideology in schools or something like that, again, which lots of people have a problem with, but they don't speak up about it um but to not uh not to pretend that you're not going to experience kickbacks and and and attacks and moments when you feel despair and all of those sorts of things but somehow through that journey you find the inner resources that you need in order to get through it and to and to achieve your end And that's what happens in every single

mythological quest. You find the resilience that you are so desperately wanting to find, and you find your allies along the way. And I must mention my wonderful wife, Sandeep Sitara, as one of my wonderful companions and allies on my journey. I wouldn't have been able to do this um uh without her so um there's i think there's also a spiritual component to to the to the quest as well uh where one kind of reflects on things on very very kind of deep uh level but it's it's important to say that it's not easy which is why people resist it but you've got to always weigh up okay what are the uh the the possible downfalls of me not embarking on doing the right thing and speaking my truth so when i think about it it's wonderful and when i think about uh most of the great myths of history gilgamesh od Odysseus, whatever, whoever you want to reference,

the hero comes home always. And he comes home with greater humility, but sometimes with greater levels of aggression too, to sort of take, I don't want to say take revenge, but take away the power of those who had dislodged them, let's say. So am I saying that accurately? I'm thinking of Odysseus. Gilgamesh was a little more subdued and just came back and became king again, became king again. But in either case, they come home and go back to service. So are you home? Are you being rehired? Do you have to take some, I don't want to say revenge, but do you have to dislodge some people in order to get them to not do that again?

Where are you in the hero's journey? I don't feel like I'm at the end yet. I think I'm still on that journey. There's something within Greek mythology called nostos, which is the yearning for homecoming. And that navigates the hero on their quest. It's always about about returning home and it's not necessarily a physical home it's also um a sense of connectedness and a sense of um being whole and i think for me i've also been um analyzing myself and thinking okay so i've you know i've been quite very sort of critical of the outside world in terms of their sort of silence about things but i've had to look at myself as well and just think okay what parts of me can i change as well on this journey so in

terms of that course humility that you referenced that you that's definitely the the case but in terms of some sort of um i know you're not really saying about like revenge but sort of settling scores and things i'm not actually interested in that. Hang on. I want to stop you. It's not that because I was careful how I chose my words. I almost said that. I said dislodge. That the people who have moved in who are not worthy of the positions they now have need to be dislodged.

And I think about your government. I mean, the fact that they won't even look into these things is disgusting. Every time somebody comes in, I forget there's one PM there or MP who is making an issue of this. And every time he speaks, the room empties out. What's wrong with these people? Maybe you should go for an MP position. That's where you need to go, my friend. So I think there's lots of things which have to be taken into consideration with regards

to the last four years and the whole kind of covid pandemic and a lot of it's to do with the censorship censorship industrial complex which has only really come to light in the last sort of 18 months so one of the things that happened to me quite early on was um i was deplatformed from um facebook and well not facebook i was kind of um uh like put on bands on facebook but completely completely kicked off um twitter uh the first twitter and then i eventually um submitted a subject access request to the department for culture media and sport which is part of the government and it turned out that i'd been monitored by the counter disinformation unit and uh the counter disinformation unit which is a an organization

which is run by the government was working in liaison with the rapid response unit and then we later found out through a journalist called isabel okershot who works for the telegraph which is a really good really big mainstream uh newspaper which i think has been quite balanced throughout this time um there was something called the lockdown files and she interviewed uh for a book um uh the former health secretary matt hancock and i mean he was really naive but he basically spilled the beans on a whole load of things and it turned out that um the intelligence agencies, so MI5, MI6, were working in liaison with the counter disinformation unit and the rapid response unit. There was something called the psychological nudge unit, which was employed in order to steer public opinion.

So all of that stuff that you were talking about at the beginning in terms of mass formation psychosis this wasn't a an organic kind of process there were lots of mechanisms in place as well something called the 77th brigade which is a unit of the british army monitoring people online so oh and also a unit of the uh raf as well there's royal air force so serious serious, which were traditionally and previously were all eyes on traditional terrorists like ISIS and Al-Qaeda, etc. Suddenly we're looking at the domestic population and silencing debate. So I do have some empathy

for some of the people who have attacked me because I feel like they too have been the victim of this very nefarious censorship industrial complex and I don't think that anyone actually wants to do harm to the children with the exception perhaps of a few dark characters in the very kind of seat of these decision makers and the ones who continue to roll this out but Joee blogs in the street i think you know they're generally good good people and that's why we need to get to the point where we can have discussions

and open debate without everyone wanting to like kill each other just because they have a different religious or philosophical uh view or a different view about a medical intervention but of course all of this sits within the wider context of these other organizations which were censoring surveilling and silencing british citizens and i know the same happened in the u.s and well across the world oh for sure and you know there's so much packed into what you just said i just have a lot of a lot of thoughts one was that your country has a long history of dealing with religious conflicts, let's say,

and really how they found their way out of that might inform the present moment. I don't know whether it's what happened in Ireland or what happened between Elizabeth and Mary. I mean, there's a lot of stuff that has gone on over the years that we don't have over here. We didn't have that. Anyway, we have other stuff.

But I want to get at that 70%. Well, I'm using 70%. You're talking about the people that attacked you that you believe were under the influence of the censorship industrial complex, which I completely agree with you. You mentioned Matthias Desmes, what he calls the mass formation or uh yes matthias desmond and he his position which i believe is accurate is that 20 of people get brainwashed quickly and they are hopeless and uh they are the evangelists they are whatever they are people that you know they're the prison guards in in nazi germany period uh there is 10 percent like yourself that throw the bs flag early and go hang on a second wait a minute and then there's 70 percent that just want to get along and as you say they are for sure good people but they do bad things and the they need to be made aware that

they're they're being under the influence of the mass formation of the censorship complex made them do things they should be at least examining if not feeling very very bad about do we need to raise that awareness do you think yeah and again i think this sits within the kind of wider context of the kind of culture that we have uh sort of created over the years so so i i'm very fortunate actually so so i my late father who died at the age of 86 about six years ago um his father so my paternal grandfather um fought in the battle of the song in world war one so i grew up with stories of uh resilient i mean he was in the the cameron highlanders as well so they actually fought in kilts and believe it or not as they went over the top over the trenches there'd be a guy at the front of the line playing bagpipes as

they walked into enemy fire so you know and and my father was um Irish and brought up in a in a very um uh you know with like hardly any money and and you know had a hard life and he was 10 years old when he was um uh alive during World War II and And he told me stories of the bombs dropping on Manchester where he lived because the Irish tended not to evacuate their kids. And I remember one particularly powerful story where he remembers at the beginning of the war where the bombs were dropping. And it was before they had an air raid shelter in their garden and they hid under the kitchen table and he said he remembers watching his father who he regarded as a as a war hero with his hand on the leg of the table trembling and he couldn't understand it this 10 year old boy who was actually he said he was quite excited by the sound of bombs etc and it was only later in life when he read about the horrors of World War I that he understood why his father was responding that manner.

But the reason I tell this story is because over the years, over the generations since that time, we've kind of sought convenience and comfort, I think, to our detriment. And even things like people getting up in the morning and going to the gym seem like uh you know really really difficult perhaps that's why there's so many uh sort of quite large slash obese people and we don't instead um unlike um uh um like in my house we like we have fireplaces in every single room and um i light fires every single day um but um back in uh the day during my my father's time they had to light fires and cook over an open fire etc so i think we've got very used to things being easy and comfortable and that's what people um uh kind of strive for and look for and that's i think that's at the root of the problem.

We have to get people getting used to moving out of their comfort zones and understanding that that's how we make rapid leaps in our self-development on a spiritual level, on an emotional level, and on a kind of societal level as well. Well, I want to talk more about that because that's very interesting. I mean, we get, as humans, we get used to things that are good and we get used to things that are bad. And we sort of, things quickly go into the background for us unless we call it forward in some fashion.

It stays in the background. So I want to talk about how we do exactly what you're talking about um michael uh let's put the book up again uh the book does the book have its own and mike fairclough is the uh claire clough sorry is the twitter handle the hero's voice there it is mike fairclough spelled f-a-i-r-c-l-o-u-G-H. Does the website, does the book have its own website or anything, Mike? No, it doesn't. No, no. So this is actually my fourth book. I've been an author since 2015, as well as a head teacher. But I don't have kind of like other platforms, really. I mean, X is probably the best place to, uh, to find me,

but I also, I'm really open to having conversations with individual people if they want to, um, private message me or whatever. Um, um, like, as I said, um, before I've, um, I'm in a position at the moment where, um, I'm creating a kind of new life with my, with my wife and we've got a, um, uh, a sort of yoga yoga studio which we're kind of running at home we call it the temple in sussex and um we're also carrying on the outdoor learning which i did with the children at my school but with the children from the village at the weekends etc so like you know teaching kids to skin rabbits and shoot pigeons and all that kind of stuff. And there's also a possibility there's an option. There's an opportunity that's come up in Bali as well, which I might take in October.

But in the meantime, if there if there's anyone who's interested in collaborating, doing some educational work or, you know, making some change, I'm interested in in making positive change in the world, then please just get in direct contact with me, you know, making some change, I'm interested in making positive change in the world, then please just get in direct contact with me, you know, possibly via DM on Twitter X. Okay, we're going to take a little break. I want to talk when we get back, right, a little bit more about what, you know, what it is to get people out of their comfort zone and what you think are necessary for us to engage in that process of doing good. I'll be right back. After this, pay attention. Joint and muscle pains are exhausting and frustrating,

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I was using it on my knee. I spread it on my leg today and it loosened up the tightness in my knee. So there you go. It does work. Mike Fairclough, we were talking about what to do with, amongst other things, the mass formation and how to keep people in the zone of doing good and helping people not fall into the comfort zone. I think that was your word, comfort zone. Yes.

You know, it's interesting. Before I get into that, you were talking about pushing back on the vaccine and how most British citizens realize that, at least for certain aid groups, there was no benefit and they weren't protecting anybody and they were exposing kids to harm, so they didn't give them the vaccine. I was inance during the darkest hours of all this and i was shocked to see the french youth demonstrating in the streets against the mandates in the united states the the the young people were completely brainwashed and

demanding more mandates and more masks and more lockdowns there their position position was specific which is how you've told us this thing is not dangerous for young people and now you're going to force us to put something in our body that we're not really clear is safe and not going to do anything for us how is that one of the founding principles of the french republic and i was really impressed with it um i don't know if it is continued i i know but i know about all the michigasas in France right now and whether or not those things have passed them by. But it's just odd to me that in the UK there was and continues to be a huge freedom movement, sometimes referred to as the resistance as well. In terms of anti-lockdown protests, they were huge. One had approximately a million people in London and they marched all the way up to the BBC headquarters

and chanted outside them not a word on mainstream media at all from anyone but of course in this age of digital technology it was all recorded and shared everywhere so it's interesting that and just to say as well it's really interesting because of course uh the anyone who was involved in those sorts of things was generally um uh kind of cast as uh sort of far right and therefore sort of the the the idea is that you you know it must be racist and and he's like these really kind of weird sort of pejoratives um but um actually those freedom movements in the uk are so incredibly diverse. I mean, you've got like the average sort of freedom festival will have black and Asian people and elderly people and kids there and white English. And it's just so, so mixed.

And I think one of the wonderful things about this time is it actually has woken a lot of people up um uh and myself included i mean i you know i didn't have any uh sort of interest as i said before in in the sort of medical world and i come from a really healthy family and healthy myself so i didn't really kind of need to think about those things but um one google search of pfizer um uh and finding out that they were the the uh the the recipient of the largest criminal fine in US history in 2009. And then a long list of other things. It was, you know, that kind of woke me up to how sort of corrupt and compromised those

organisations are. And then, of course, finding out later down the line, all of the people who got kickbacks for promoting their products. So in the UK, there's been quite a few TB doctors who've been discovered. They got payments. There are scientists who had payments as well as in government advisers. And of course, you know, all of that sort of all of that kind of corruption. So, yeah, it's been it's been a really interesting time and a really positive time in terms of the people waking up to things. But in terms of trying to get more people to speak their truth and to be able to talk about uncomfortable things, it's it's you know, that's why I've kind of looked at this whole kind of process but actually it's on the back of at least sort of 15 years of doing exactly that thing within the education system so one of the things that I was well known for as a as a head teacher was the promotion of what's called character education and that's underpinned by something called positive psychology so it's looking at qualities and character traits which

can be amplified in order to make us better and stronger people and that includes and the key to it is resilience now the only way that you can develop resilience is by stepping out of your comfort zone and just to mention my wife Sandeep Sitara again, she's brilliant at doing this. She's a Punjabi Indian lady who was born in Africa and she's like really sort of hardcore. And so like some of the time when I'm, you know, wanting to kind of like take things down a few pegs, she'll be saying, right, let's kind of really go there. Let's take these things to the next level. So for example, we live by the sea and she gets us jumping in the cold water and swimming as often as we possibly can we've recently started getting up at 3 30 in the morning

to go out to our temple to kind of do our prayers etc so starting the day with something which is difficult and which is moving us out of our comfort zones but where straight away we've achieved something and then we feel more empowered as a result. But there's other traits as well. So in addition to the resilience, I think it's important to generate a sense of gratitude and optimism. So particularly during times of challenge and struggle, to be able to list the many things that we are grateful for.

Perhaps it's the health of our children or our relationships or you know whatever it might be however big or small that might be and also having kind of optimism about the future because i think moving forward if we are really bleak about things and think oh we've had covid and you know of course they're going to pull another thing like this again and you know we're all doomed you might as well give up now whereas if you have a sense of optimism and hope that can kind of act as a guiding light as we move forward so you know fortunately I've had you know 14 15 years of researching this stuff talking about it living it in my life as well and I should mention as well I had one of the things, my kind of benchmarks for things being difficult is close personal bereavement. So the, for example, the biological mother of my two eldest boys,

there's Tally, whose house I'm staying in at the moment. And for this, for this video, and, and Iggy, the 20 year old, their mom and my wife uh died uh very suddenly 12 years ago and and prior to that um my sister and her children were all killed in a road accident and i've had other close personal deaths of close friends and and you know when stuff like that happens it kind of acts as a benchmark for other things so suddenly things which other people might find more challenging are less so now it's not to diminish the experience of um speaking out and how difficult that's been but it's certainly not as hard as someone close to me uh dying so you know obviously one wouldn't wish that on anyone but we can kind of um create the conditions

where we're able to build our resilience by doing difficult things getting up early in the morning going cold water swimming um making sure that we're exercising you know like if you go to the gym there's always that resistance before you go to the gym and then once you're there you feel fantastic but just staying with the within the comfort of the known and within the certainty and the ease of our lives, which basically we just become weak and therefore incredibly easy to manipulate. So I advocate this idea that moving beyond our comfort zone makes us stronger. But in order to do that, you have to feel some kind of discomfort and pain. And then you, of course, become stronger on lots of different levels.

Yeah, I appreciate that. I'm thinking about what you're saying about putting things in a sort of context or, you know, what priorities there are in life. And bereavement of certainly is only great great struggles for any any human being and it is important to i hate to say it but sort of lean into it as opposed to avoid it uh it's just sort of you know avoiding it leads to trouble and whether you're avoiding it because you're keeping somebody alive and making that person suffer unnecessarily or avoiding it because you don't want to feel it and you fall yourself into a depression it has to be it has to be felt it's part of life yeah and uh yeah and being able to experience gratitude yeah yeah so i was going to say within our western

culture death is in in the closet still really compared to say indian culture uh or even like the with my first wife she's who was was Italian and from like the old school. So they would have open coffins in Italy and all that kind of stuff. And I think by, you know, it is painful, but by trying not to kind of gloss things over and just facing things in the moment, it does make it kind of easier actually in the long run. But I think that's just another indication of what's kind of slightly wrong about our culture. You know, like, you know, death is going to happen to all of us.

And in fact, it was weaponized during the COVID pandemic, wasn't it? It's like, you know, this virus with an incredibly, I mean, in England, it was the average age of death was 83 with four comorbidities, which was actually higher than the average age of death generally. And yet everyone was like really scared that they might die of this virus, which caused them almost zero harm. And we were actually told that from the beginning. I mean, that was the thing. When it all kicked off, I remember Boris Johnsonson the former prime prime minister saying many of us will lose loved ones and i and i should say that actually we didn't at that time know anything

about covid other than seeing these videos from china which have now been debunked of course and this whole idea that there was this sort of almost like zombie apocalypse kind of spreading the world and and actually i was my school i closed my school before any other school in the country it was only for like a week because then we had to kind of reopen but it was really interesting because i just thought wow we've just been told many of us will lose loved ones i've got 365 children 60 members of staff and there's about a thousand people i'm responsible for if you include the parents. And I thought, I've got to just say to them,

if you want to keep your kids at home until we know what's going on, please do. And interestingly, the people who attacked me for doing that were exactly the same people who attacked me when I had the opposite view. So a few weeks later. Of course, of course. Because I was like, I had to go back to school. We ended up with about 200 people, you know 30 members of staff 150 uh children and you know we're all a bit

wary and then the government said oh by the way children aren't uh aren't uh at risk it was chris witty the chief medical officer for england said this and he said and most people are healthy people are fine so i just thought oh wonderful let's open up all of the schools properly let's open up the economy and let's crack on no problem protect the vulnerable that's the good thing to do but apart from that and then suddenly the people who criticized me for closing the school criticized me for saying that um yeah everything should be open and the reason was because we hadn't been given permission from on high so um yeah i think there's a is an interesting um you know you mentioned mass formation uh psychosis um i think there's also obviously moral cowardice for the ones who did know that there was something

wrong but didn't say anything about it um i think there's also another element um that whole milgram experiment idea where people see dreadful things going around going on but if somebody in authority is saying it's okay then they go along with it so we need to be empowering uh each other to be able to stand in our truth and to be able to you know own where we're at and to be able to um question things um if we want to. But that really does begin with education and in schools, which is what I was actually doing. And it was celebrated until obviously I, you know, the cardinal sin of questioning the COVID vaccines. Please go back to it. It's going to be the quest of the next 10 or 20 years i'm afraid and it's

going to take a while i keep thinking about odysseus as you're talking and you you talked about bereavement being a something that sidelined you a little bit i think odysseus kept complaining about hunger if i remember right he was always hungry and he had trouble and he had trouble sleeping uh and and uh but but when time came, he took care of business. So I will look forward to you taking care of business. You're going to have to. You're very philosophical, and you're very even, and you're very spiritual.

But you may have to wield a hammer at some point. Oh, yeah. And I trust you to do so. i'm still in the game in the sense that i'm still campaigning i'm uh this this opportunity in bali is an educational opportunity we'll see what happens i'm doing on a small level within you know my garden or my land with the local children but i i must say as well it's like i've been inspired as well by other individuals who've been on in in this in this game and one of them is obviously Dr Peter McCullough who is responsible for me being here he's helped me in the background throughout all of this time and he's had um all sorts of of of

you know he's had to endure things that I've not had to endure and you know I've found that inspiring as well as Robert F Kennedy as well who's given me encouragement in the background thanks to Dr McCullough you know connecting us and you know I look at somebody like when I'm feeling a bit feeble and and stuff I would like watch a Robert Kennedy video and it's like oh wow I need to step up now I mean this is a guy it's like you know i was like okay so you know i'm not in education at the moment and all of that kind of stuff you know poor me but this guy hasn't even got um secret service protection he's you know up against like the

biggest like sort of criminal organizations uh in in the world he's like completely ripped as well which i find extraordinary. Every time I think, oh, maybe I'm not going to work out today, I'm like, one of his videos comes up. Think of Bobby. Think of Bobby. So there's so many inspiring people around

who've had it a lot worse and who are still fighting. So I think we can take a lot of inspiration from those people, as well as the mythological heroes and the people from the past. There are people right now who are modern day heroes and those two gentlemen are right up there i i completely agree with you and mccullough is a dear friend and a great guy and an inspiration and and you um brought in another mythical hero and i'm not sure if you did that

consciously when you said you caretaking within your garden. Suddenly we have Voltaire here in the room. Candide, his final words are, we must cultivate our own garden. Was that a conscious reference when you said that? No. No, it wasn't. No. Well, it's another one.

It's another one. Yeah. So, okay. Whatever. It's all good. But Voltaire said this long ago whoever wrote gilgamesh said it and um homer all referencing the same thing as you have to come home and take care of your garden first which includes your family your literal garden if it needs to be but also your community gilgamesh was the king and that's why his garden included doing proper work in service of the community for which

he was responsible and that includes sometimes taking care of business and i think that'll take a little while to kind of flush all this out mike thank you so much for joining us good luck with the book good luck with your uh i'm sure something's going to give here in terms of work there's just no way it can't and it's number one mike fairclough on x and here is a screenshot you can take of a qr code for the hero's voice and hopefully we'll talk soon mike thank you so much thank you dr drew thank you very much indeed you bet pleasure i'll say hi to your friend peter mccullough that send him your regards all right now we are going to switch gears a little bit we were in a sort of peripheral way talking about Gen Z. Now let's speak to an actual member of Gen Z, an 18-year-old who is a

political commentator, strategist, founder, and editor of Chiefs of the Truth Gazette, a conservative news service that he established at the age of 11, Berlin Hollllyhand i want to make sure i'm pronouncing his name right pronounce your name for me my friend i i'm going to make sure i get it right you're all good as brylan but thanks for having me dr drew i appreciate it i'm excited to be brylan and and and hollyhand is the last time yes sir holy hand hollyhand okay brylan okay got it all right one generation away is uh book. Tell us about it. Absolutely. So One Generation Away is seven years of conversation to the American people. I first got started in politics at age 11, as you said, and I've spent the past seven years

traveling the country, Dr. Drew, talking with as many Americans as I could, but more importantly, listening to even more of them. And I'm hearing the same things that you're hearing from your audience as well. People don't really have hope in the more of them. And I'm hearing the same things that you're hearing from your audience as well. People don't really have hope in the future of America. My generation doesn't have hope that we're going to grow up in a free America. And I wanted to dispel that rumor. And so the message that I always close every single college campus speech with

is my hope is in Jesus Christ alone, not any DC bureaucrats. That's the message of this book. And it's really successful. It's currently number two on Amazon, which is amazing. And we're just so excited to have the opportunity to talk to you about it. And you said you're speaking in colleges. I'm surprised. I mean, they don't demonstrate and yell you down or do you only choose certain kinds of colleges or how's that work? Oh, yeah. No, we've got a lot of different places on both sides of the aisle. SEC

is obviously friendly territory for me. I'm from the great state of Alabama. I actually live in Tuscaloosa. So the university is like 10 minutes from my house. So I'm familiar with the SEC, but you're exactly right. We've gone out of that bubble a little bit and actually just had an email in an inbox a second ago from the Harvard College Republicans group asking us to go do something there, too. So we've had some protests. We've also heard our fair share of people speaking out. I

think I have about a half dozen death threats in my inbox every morning when I wake up. But you know what? That's part of it. That's what you get for speaking out. And I think that's why it's so difficult for me to encourage my peers to speak out. I mean, constantly and throughout this book and throughout those campus speeches, we're telling people, hey, if you're frustrated, say something. Kind of speak out what they're so terrified terrified in modern day America, first of all, cancel culture. And second of all, being canceled by their friends, family, community with those threats. It's kind of terrifying and it makes it even harder to have, you know, comments that people talk today. Do you engage with people that have differing views from yours?

And what do you learn from them? Yeah, I think you'll agree with this, but I have a chapter in the book about how I think that to heal America, we must have conversations. And so there's a chapter called Hard Conversations and the Path Forward. And I share four or five examples of times in my life where I've had really difficult conversations and they actually came out to be really, really successful in my career. I'll give you one example. You mentioned I'm chairing the RNC's Youth Advisory Council. And obviously next week is the convention. It's a really big week for our party. That's something that came about because I had a really difficult conversation with our party leadership. It was after the 2022 midterms. I was frustrated with the Republican Party's lack

of performance. I thought that we should have done better. And there was a few-week period there where people were blaming our candidates, people were blaming our messaging, people were blaming the party leaders. And I didn't think it was any of that. I thought it was our lack of youth engagement. I mean, the DNC founded a youth advisory council in 2005. A Republican candidate has not won the youth vote in a presidential race in 2003. We had not been even entering this game, much less attempting to win. And so I thought that that's something that we needed to act on. And so I went on a network, called out the RNC and had a text on my phone when I walked off set from the RNC chairwoman's assistant. And it was like, we have a meeting tomorrow morning. And I was like, oh my goodness,

this is the first I've ever heard from the RNC. Like I'm about to get blacklisted. Like they're so upset. Like I just called them out on TV. This could not be good. So I had the meeting the next morning and it was a Saturday morning. You'll know any meeting to happen on a Saturday morning in politics can never be too good for them to come into the office. And I was like, this this can't be a good sign. And we walk in and the chairwoman at the time says, you know, I like the idea. And she knew that I disagree with her. She knew I had some personal conflicts with her office that just set up the day before.

But she listened to me and we had a hard conversation and we left there saying, OK, we're going to start a council and we're going to start youth engagement since then president trump is currently leading yesterday morning in new york times poll he's currently leading the youth vote by eight points clearly our youth engagement's working all that came from hard conversations you're exactly right we need more hard conversations in america so so talk to us about what young people are thinking. I think millennials are sort of the ones that we hear from or that we think of or certainly that mainstream media reports from or about. We don't hear much from, you just left high school recently. We don't know what they're thinking.

Let me just frame this by saying my specific generation, like my age group, was was at the end of the sick we weren't part of the 60s generation we were we grew up watching that all happen and we didn't want much to do with it it didn't look too it didn't look too happy to us not only that we saw a lot of them very quickly either end up dead or becoming stockbrokers. Like weirdly, they seem disingenuous. And so we, we, you know, so from my generation on back, all of a sudden you have sort of the eighties. That's kind of the eighties kind of came along with all that. And so these cusp generations, which sort of you represent really, right.

You're, you're not millennial and you're not, it's this next group. Are they looking at what's going on and kind of shaking their head and wanting something a little different? I think they are. And it starts with, you know, you're exactly right. I'm going into my senior year of high school. This is an era of life where, and you remember the days of graduating high school. You remember the days of going off to college, registering to vote, renting your first apartment, living independently for the first time. That's a really important milestone in an era of your life. My peers and I are going into the

era of life under a Biden economy. It's difficult enough for my parents and grandparents to live under this economy. It's even harder for my generation to get a start. Another example, and you were just talking about it with your guests before me, is COVID. We're the generation that grew up in COVID. I was in middle school when COVID hit. I was just coming out of elementary school. We saw big government. Brylin, I want to stop you. Two things.

Two things. One, you should be disgusted with what they did to you, and you should never forget it. You should be furious. All your peers should be furious. It's disgusting. It's inexcusable. I said it when it happened that 8 to 15-year-olds are going to be destroyed, and I hope they should be furious. It's disgusting. It's inexcusable. I said it when it happened that eight to 15-year-olds are going to be destroyed,

but I hope they never forget it. You should live your life with one thing in mind, that this never happens again. Okay, that's number one. Number two, the group, and this is my pitch to you, and number two, the group ahead of you looks at the economy and goes, oh, the system is broken.

We've got to change everything, which, of course, is just kind of ridiculous. But how come you guys don't go there? Yeah, I think that we don't want to support a big government idea. We saw how bad big government was. We saw big government at its worst. Big government shut my generation out of our schools for a year and a half. Big government made me strap a diaper to my face. Big government told me I was an evil person if I invited grandma over for Thanksgiving dinner. And so we saw how bad that is. Stay focused there.

Focus your messaging there, my friend. That's your future right there. You saw what they did to you. You should never get over it. Diaper to the face if you want. Fine. And maybe dangerous things in your arm for no good reason. Where do you want to go to college?

Yes. Yeah, I'm thinking of staying a little bit close to home. I've looked at some places up north, but I like SEC area. Vanderbilt. Okay. I haven't looked at that yet. We'll have to do that. Okay.

Oh, dude, my son went there. It's a great school. It's a great school. Oh, cool. Very nice. Yeah, I spoke there i spoke there a few time in the 90s and i came home and i told all my kids i go you you have to look at this school something is happening there it's it's a kind of an extraordinary place and my son's

experience bore that out completely so take a look i don't know if they're completely on board with your point of view i don't know i don't know what's going on there these days, but it's not New England. That's for sure. It's not. Yeah. No, no, it's not that. Well, listen, what is your plan going forward? What do you want people to know and do to help support you? Yeah, absolutely. So the book just came out this Tuesday.

Like we said, it's already become a bestseller, which is amazing. And it's really cool to see the American dream alive and well that an 18-year-old can have a bestselling book here in this nation. Your audience can get signed copies at browlandbook.com. You can follow me on social media at browlandhollyhand. We're just really trying to get young people involved, both sides of the aisle. This is completely bipartisan. Get everybody registered to vote and get them, you know, making a plan to vote. Because, again, think of the typical high school college student.

Tuesday, November 5th is a typical Tuesday to them. They're going to classes. They're going to work. They're going to hang out with their friends until we tell them, you know, hey, take the 10 to 15 minutes, make sure you cast your vote. The stakes could be higher. They're not going to have any ideas. We're trying to get that message out and we just appreciate your help with that. All right. Listen, I have a feeling I'm going to need to talk to you more as things evolve, particularly in terms of engagement and getting people out of their silos

and getting everyone talking again. I think you might be important in that process. All right, Brylin, thank you so much for joining us. Congratulations on the book and good luck with college and good luck with whatever comes next for you. We'll be applauding and checking in. Thank you so much. I appreciate the opportunity.

Have a good week. You got it. Thank you so much. Speaking of that week, let's talk about what's coming up for us. As I said, we've got the author on the, with Susan Pinsky tonight at three o'clock. They had three o'clock. Check that out. I'm going to stop by on that.

But Bantia. Yeah. Bantia, who wrote. Calling out to your spirits, Dr. Drew. Second class, Bantia, who really talks about how the government has sold out the working class. We'll talk about that. And Joseph Freiman, you guys know him from the last two interviews we've done with him. He'll be here on the 17th.

He has a new hope initiative about getting, you will all be very inspired by that initiative. You might check out what Jay Bhattacharya is tweeting about it today. Tommy Robinson, Harvey Reich on the 18th, Dave Smith on the 23rd. We're looking forward to that. Kelly Victory coming on back around with Harry Fisher. So we got a lot, and I keep poor Emily Barsh. I throw her people I want to talk to all the time, and she goes after them. We've got some very high-profile people potentially coming our way,

so keep an eye out for that. Susan, anything from your standpoint? Whoops, no mic on for you. Sorry. Such a good tech person. Yeah, I was just going to put up all the posts for calling out with Susan Pinsky. So we have YouTube calling out, but also it'll be on the Dr. Drew YouTube for anybody who's out there. X, First Lady of Love. So if you want to see it on X, we had a big following there last week.

Also rumble.com slash Dr. Drew or calling out. Hopefully we'll see our rumble friends over there at three o'clock. And we have YouTube, Facebook, Twitch, the Dr. Drew Twitch, and then my First Lady of Love Facebook. So if you watched it last week, we really appreciate it. We saw a lot of numbers. I don't know if you guys were just looking to see what the hell it was and you didn't like it or you did like it. I'd love to know if you did.

And we're going to have a comedian in the house with a clairvoyant Rebecca Fearing. Yes. Well, Annie Lederman. I can see who. Annie Lederman, yeah. Annie Lederman, who is a great friend and a great comedian. She makes it over here with the traffic.

Oh, she's coming all the way out here. It's crazy. Okay, I'm looking at the restream, guys. You said Dolphin Bear has been very active. Thank you. Fantastic guest, she says, or he says. I'm not sure. I think it's a she.

And Susan, were you watching the restream or the Rumble Rants at all i didn't have a chance to look too much down i'm running and keep in mind we are doing a noon time on thursday so susan can do this show uh i don't think vince is going to make it today possibly he was a surprise anyways nobody knows okay well you don't need to tell now the surprise is that he's not coming his dog oh yeah don't put that up we have to take that down um um yeah his dog's in the hospital so what's that caleb oh well i never mind i'll figure that out after i give you the bad did i give you the bad news caleb yeah yeah it would have been great to know that during the show before i made all the promos for it for the show happening in a couple hours I'll get on it it literally just happened

it just happened I figured I told you not to post it I'll figure it out I'll make it work somebody's doggies in the hospital I get to talk to her during the little ad I get to talk to her during the little ad breaks

I don't know he may pop in but he's supposed to be my top secret guest that nobody knew was coming. And he's not coming, so it doesn't matter. Nobody knows. No, it's all right. I always produce extra people on my show. It's not like when you're booking a doctor or professional

who they say they're going to show up and they do. There's always a flake. So I always overbook my shows. That's just, I'm used to it. So I just enjoyed the hell out of the guests we've been talking to the last few weeks and I appreciate you all joining us. And if you want to look back at some of the previous shows, we appreciate that too, because it's just been a great opportunity. When I was talking to Mike Fairclough today, I'm thinking to myself, yes, this thing blew everything apart. Yes, what they did was inexcusable. Yes,

it can't happen again, but it created interesting bedfellows. It created interesting opportunity. It created relationships with audiences and methods of delivery of material for those audiences that just wouldn't have happened or would have taken a lot longer to happen had it not been for it so um again it is um what should we call it creativity that gets us through these things and uh makes uh makes things interesting and makes it all not just bad uh still don't get over it we can it should not happen again a lot of people like you heard the young brylin was just saying, were affected for the rest of their life by it, and they should not forget it.

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