Ask Dr. Drew - Investing In Crisis: Sayer Ji Exposes Epstein & Bill Gates Pandemic Business Model In Leaked Emails, Years Before COVID-19 w/ Peter Gillooly — Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 595

Episode Date: March 8, 2026

Years before the world ever heard of COVID-19, Jeffrey Epstein was quietly helping architect a massive financial network for Bill Gates and JPMorgan centered around pandemics. Sayer Ji’s newly published investigation dives into the latest DOJ batch of Epstein files and reveals a terrifying 20-year timeline – and that global health institutions were treating pandemics as a highly profitable business model long before the crisis actually arrived. “Internal JPMorgan emails from 2011 show Jeffrey Epstein advising the bank’s most senior executives on how to pitch a Gates-anchored donor-advised fund,” writes Ji, “insisting the presentation include the phrase “additional money for vaccines” and directing the creation of an “offshore arm — especially for vaccines.” Sayer Ji is an independent investigative journalist and founder of https://GreenMedInfo.com. In 2021, the Center For Countering Digital Hate awarded him with a spot on the Disinformation Dozen. He is Chairman and Co‑Founder of the Global Wellness Forum and Senior Advisor to MAHA Action. Ji is the author of the book REGENERATE. Follow at https://x.com/sayerjigmi⠀Peter Gillooly is CEO of The Wellness Company. He promotes patient‑first care and individual control over health decisions. Follow at https://x.com/petergillooly and learn more at https://drdrew.com/twc 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 • STRONG CELL – If you want to feel more like your younger self, go to https://strongcell.com/ and use code DREW for 20% off. • AUGUSTA PRECIOUS METALS – Thousands of Americans are moving portions of their retirement into physical gold & silver. Learn more in this 3-minute report from our friends at Augusta Precious Metals: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/gold⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or text DREW to 35052 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/fatty15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/paleovalley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • VSHREDMD – Formulated by Dr. Drew: The Science of Cellular Health + World-Class Training Programs, Premium Content, and 1-1 Training with Certified V Shred Coaches! More at https://drdrew.com/vshredmd • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twc.health/drew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Executive Producers • Kaleb Nation - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • Susan Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/firstladyoflove⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Content Producer • Emily Barsh - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/emilytvproducer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Hosted By • Dr. Drew Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/drdrew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We are going to get into it today with Sayer G, J-I. I suggest strongly that you follow him on X. It is Sayer, S-A-Y-E-R, uh-oh, J-I-G-M-I. He's got a lot of, he's got a green med info page. He's got Sayer G substack, which we're going to talk about as soon as we get here. And he has a book from 2020, Regenerate. He's part of the disinformation dozen who dared to ask questions from the the,

from on high, the people that knew all the answers. How dare he? And speaking of medical freedom, Peter Galooly, the CEO of Wellness Company, T-W-C is here. You can follow Peter at T-W-C-U-C-U-S-E-U-C-U-Halth.

Also, Peter Galooly, G-I-L-L-O-O-L-L-Y. And we will discuss medical freedom. We will discuss the wellness company and discuss new initiatives that we are going to be providing to help patients in the post-acute aftercare of hospitalization and other sort of home needs that have been completely left out of the health care equation for far too long, all after this.

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Take control of your well-being and book an assessment today. Medcan, live well for life. Visit medcan.com slash moments to get started. Please, whoops, please, once Susan steps out of the way, please welcome Sayer G. As I say, I strongly, you do not follow him at your peril. You'll be left out of the conversation at a level. that we all should be in. Sayer, thank you for joining us.

And give me the Twitter handle again. I want to make sure I give it exactly right. Thanks so much for having me, Dr. Drew. It's Sayer G, GMI. So my name plus GMI. And the GMI is for the Gmed, greenmedinfo.com, yes? Just an acronym, exactly. Okay.

Well, away from GreenMed for a second, you have been doing an incredible job reporting on the Epstein file. And I want to start with their substack that I just, I guess just came out this afternoon. And it sort of framed the relationship between Epstein and the world elites. You begin this conversation calling it the Epstein Gates axis, which I think is a fascinating construct. Yeah, absolutely. What I've found in my research is that, you know, there's a lot of scandal and there were personal relationships that deserve attention. but it's really the infrastructure that has been exposed that is most stunning,

because when you really look at all the ways that Epstein was involved in, even Gates' life, it was clear that they had business relationships, they had legal contracts that essentially merged them into a unit within a much larger superstructure, which involved planning for pandemics, almost a decade before they came to pass. I always try to understand, you know, what someone is thinking when they do things that seem sort of inexplicable. And I frame it from the perspective of people do immense evil in the name of social good.

It's just how it goes. That's what evil gets committed. So what do you imagine, let's just say on the gate side of the equation, what do you imagine he was doing? Well, I think you just nailed it, is that, you know, ultimately what we saw emerge with the partnership between Bill Gates and Epstein, which really crystallized in 2011, was you found Epstein, like, working with JP Morgan executives to architect a new model of philanthropic capitalism that merged, you know, legitimate health security objectives, such as, you know, trying to prevent, you know, diseases. infectious diseases, et cetera, with a investment feasible instrument so that you could bring private capital, in fact, through donor advised funds so that you could really also hide who is behind the earmarking of these projects and merge it into this hybrid entity. So you used an interesting word. You called it philanthropic capitalism.

Have we gone to... This is really just a meta question. With our sort of more public awareness of NGOs and of some of the, let's just call them kindly excesses of not-for-profits, and now this whole story of sort of world domination through philanthropic capitalism, is there something wrong with the basic structure

of our not-for-profit systems? Yeah, because colloquially people think, oh, not for profit, so therefore they're not, must not be greed and ulterior motives. But unfortunately, we've seen, yeah, exactly. We've seen someone of the weaponization. Not for profit. To me, not for profit just means don't pay taxes and may not be subjected to the same accounting as somebody who is paying taxes.

That's it. In fact, that's the biggest issue of all that has emerged in these files is that you're seeing the emergence of a global governance system that preempts sovereign nations' constitutions and the rights of their individual citizens because you have these non-democratically elected NGOs or non-profits deciding essentially what vaccines will get funded and where they will be deployed. And that's actually, that comes up strong, Dr. Drew, in what's called Project Molecule, which in the files is an elaborate scheme to merge, you know, private, you know, VC funding into, you know, sort of public health advocacy. And essentially, this is what Bill Gates and Epstein and J.P. Morgan architected in 2011.

But it was actually 2012 when the Global Health Investment Fund was launched. And this was really, I believe, conceived in 2011 with this project. but it merged the Gates Foundation with J.P. Morgan and then the World Bank with their finance corporation. And it was really focused on developing vaccines to deploy in Afghanistan and Pakistan, along with surveillance systems, which involved actually military intelligence being shared with Epstein by one of the, well, the president of the International Peace Institute that's Rod Larson. you've been living with this material for a while as you've reported on it and you you say these things in a matter-of-fact way for people who are just waking up to this this is shocking this is shocking there's this dark underbelly that controls so much and these are unelected officials running a muck on their own we haven't had no

idea what they were doing we have no say what they're doing and it unites some of the scariest as we have discovered during COVID, things like the public health system, which has a wrinkle in our Constitution where it operates under the constitutional radar, which is insane. And what was the military, what's the code? I want to say it has an ACRA. What is it? Well, I mean, you had biosavailants infrastructure being funded through this new vehicle.

They created. No, I mean the, the, this. the thing that's still in the military, the certain, it's a word like DARPA, but it is DARPA. Is it DARPA? Yeah. Yeah. That to me, so these are three elements, right? This is this, I want to make sure I stay with your language. Philanthropal capitalists operating NGOs and all this crap,

operating away from our view. It is the public health system operating under the Constitution without our understanding that it's doing so. and then it's all protected by DARPA. So no one could take any legal action on it. Well, DARPA was actually involved. There's an entire section of my series, which is 12 parts now, part eight. It had to be.

It had to be. There's so many layers to it. But, you know, the biggest challenge, I think, for those who are starting to realize, wake up to what these files contain is that, you know, we saw deployed through our own Pentagon, you know, a transgenic technology that doesn't even do. deserve the term vaccine, which, of course, any questioning of whether it was safer effective, you were instantly labeled a domestic extremist and canceled. So that system was actually being erected globally, and there were no democratically elected

members, right, or leaders. It was what we've seen deployed through the World Health Organization. Actually, here's the real interesting part of these files. If you go back to 2014, here's the interesting part. I'm sorry to interrupt you, but here's the interesting part. So keep going. They find blowing. And by the way, this is all in the files themselves. And so thankfully, we have the transparency of these files. So I encourage everyone to look at the primary document. So in 2014, we don't need to. I can look at your threads. You put it all, you lay it all out there. But go ahead. But Epstein receives an email from Bill Gates informing him that he's about to have a meeting with Obama about Ebola, because in September, that's when the crisis was

breaking through. And what happened essentially was not only was Epstein be invited to, you know, private meetings with Obama. There was an event he was invited to. But essentially, right in that window is when the who declares Ebola a public, you know, emergency of international concern. Exactly. And then, and then separately, the UN Security Council, invokes their Article 12 in September of 18th, and they essentially declare that this is an international emergency equivalent to what you would equate to say military, you know, security concern. So that was the beginning of the structure they laid down, which then we saw again deployed in, you know, in 2020 with COVID.

And I left out the World Health Organization because we're out, thank God, we should be. there's a lot of things more things we should get out of it seems to be but but as it pertains to well I have two sort of things I want to get into and I'll break in a couple of minutes and these are giant topics both them what is I'd love to see your thoughts and you're I don't think you've been reporting on this yet ideas about how to unravel all this so this doesn't happen again you know what do we do here other than expose it all to sunlight good aware now okay i didn't know i lived in this world i'm you know through the looking glass here we are but we got to do something uh i exactly during covid i kept saying i kept saying we need to close

that loophole in the constitution for the public health system it's it's not not okay as we have to do that i see no will to do so or you know there are no no talk about they've got a lot of things on their mind i understand but someone's got to do that but but what do you think we ought to do well there's a quick question to, I mean, answer that question, which is that, you know, we are seeing at present, the United States, removing itself from what was 30 plus UN, you know, bodies. And there, there is a disintermediation occurring, which is to take away the NGOs and these, you know, self-assembled global governance structures that presume to be able to make determinations about everyone's health, you know. Does anybody understand how scandalous this is? When people read your,

There's the feedback you get on X. Do people appreciate that this is a, this is a scandal, the likes of which it should be, I've never heard of a scandal. This is, this is, I don't have words for it. Look, it's better because I just want to give you the full rundown. Okay. So what happened is, the thing is it's so plausibly, deniably clear that you can architect financial instruments such as the World Bank innovated these pandemic bonds where essentially people are betting against a pandemic, but the architects of these bonds really modeled it after post-Andrew in the early 90s,

catastrophes that were natural, and then really just converted that into a product for this new pandemic vertical of investing in, you know, pandemic, you know, crises as if, you know, they're just like any other asset. What happened, though, is that essentially the world well the WF actually also launched its CEPI which was another attempt to bring all this capital into

what was traditionally philanthropies and governments trying to fund the health of other countries with vaccines and other interventions they tried to really make it something where people could make a lot of money and so by putting down those tracks

they created such an incentive so that you know you did didn't really need someone to, you know, like it wasn't like a conspiracy where one person or a group of people necessarily just, you know, released a bioweapon. It's like everything required institutionally that a pandemic was declared in order for certain parametric triggers to be released, which would release these reinsurance products, which are essentially, when there's a huge breakdown in society, the insurers themselves need insurance. And those were also being instructed in 2017.

Once again, this is in the name of doing good. They're not bad ideas. They just had bad influences in an extraordinary situation that shouldn't. In a normal world, it would have been protective only. It would not have triggered all those, all those. And it would have its influence, right? I mean, I understand it creates a wind. But it wouldn't have done what it did.

Now, I don't think. we got to have reinsurance. So we have to. That's why we protect ourselves. Yeah, I think that's a generous reading. The problem, though, and I think this is clear to anybody who watched, you know, the pandemic unfold was in 2019, we had a vent 201 in October of 2019, right, where they just did a complete simulation of everything that was going to follow. Like, it was a big script. No, don't get me wrong.

Don't get me wrong. It's just, I had a long talk with Mel Kay about this dark banking thing. going on. And it's there and it's not good, but for me, it's not the, it's not the causational. You know what I mean? It's a wind that, you know, helps blow things in one direction or another. The causation, look, if we had a constitution and didn't let public health take away our bill of rights, no problem. They can make all the recommendations they want. We're fine. Bill Gates can do whatever he wants. Fine. They can't force us do anything. But once that wrinkle is in there And once the NGO is out of sight, and once the influences are amongst the elite are happening and we can't see it, then it's on.

It's just on. And it is disgusting. Every time I find out more about this stuff, it just makes me more and more disgusted. Is there one person? Now, you are a person now who is looking at it and seeing it all, right? You're seeing the map, right? Was there a person when this was all unfolding who had similar? It was Epstein, that guy?

was Gates that guy? Was nobody that person all this as it was happening in real time? Well, I don't know if I fully understand the question. Could you be? So everything you just explained to me, right? Everything we just been talking about, is there, even though they might have had, as you said, a more gracious interpretation of what they were doing, did they see the landscape we're talking about here?

Did they understand the levers they were pulling? and all the different elements that were afoot. I got it. Yeah, there are some very interesting emails. You may have seen some of them go viral on X where there's discussion around conversations of what to do with poor people. And in the description, it is the context

is that there was a discussion with Bill Gates. Now, we don't know exactly whether that happened or what the context actually was. But yeah, there are indications that there was, I believe, intent. There was deception. In fact, even the term deception comes up in some of the emails. So, you know, I don't want to just give a free pass to those who are clearly, you know, being.

Well, and I get what you're saying. That wasn't what I was getting at, really. It was, you know, there's a clarity now that I have, that I'm so disgusted, right? It's a clarity about all this that I just wonder if they were, I mean, did Epstein, I mean, what did he think he? I think I know what Bill Gates thought he was doing, but did Epstein, what would he have said he was doing? And let me, you know, I do this. You think about that while I take a break. You know, what, would Epstein, is he just a cold-blooded McEvelian who is just going to make money? Is he just having a good time and he's a mathematician

and like solving problems? And oh, by the way, there's some chicks over here for you while you're at it. Oh, oops. We got to get into that part too. because that's the part that everyone is, that's what gets everyone's attention, even though this part is killing me right now. But let's talk about what Epstein thought he was doing after the break. You're right back.

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It just makes no sense at all in this day and age. All right. Let's get back to Sarah G. And before the break, I was asking him about given all his report, what does he think Epstein thought he was doing with Bill Gates, essentially? What were the two of them up to from his point of view? Well, it's stunning because when you really look at the primary thing that Epstein, you know, is responsible for in my research, it's that they created this supernational governance system, which redefined biology as a new space of investment and jurisdiction and governance. So your body, right, that's why the mRNA vaccines are transgenic. You literally take possession. You colonize, you know, the bodies of those that participate in that system. this guy, this is five years after he was convicted is when Bill and J.P. Morgan began devising

this structure. And what's crazy is August 17th, okay, Mary Erdos, who's CEO of J.P. Morgan asset and wealth management emails Epstein asking him essentially how to construct this thing, which later became Project Molecule and then we see other iterations. And he was coming up with all the language, creating this perpetual system that would outlet. the founders. So it was meant to go into perpetuity, take advantage of the giving pledge, which of course is all these billionaires in 2010 pledged. I think it was up to $60 billion of their wealth to go into, you know, ostensibly. That was what Warren Buffett threw into, right? Exactly. And he was on the, he was a chairman of this structure. They were pointing together,

included Melinda Gates as well. And they were essentially architecting a instrument where all the the money would go because those are just pledges. They're not obligated to put it anywhere. So what Epstein did is he created an offshore arm. He wanted a tax neutral jurisdiction. He said especially for vaccines. And in the emails, he talks about the frustration that Bill Gates has that there's not enough money for vaccines. You've got to put that in there. And we need donor anonymity. And there's an email that says there's a tension between charity and profit. So we have to keep these things at arm's length. So they're acknowledging that this is a very, very challenging hybridization, right, of do good for humanity and make a ton of profit.

And of course, you know, implement a program of vaccination around the globe that was not just about helping poor people that don't get enough water, good food, they're being poisoned, right? They don't have shelter. Let's fix those problems. No, let's inject them with all of these vaccines, kind of like a subscription model. Remember Bill Gates? He came up with a very dysfunctional operating system where you needed to have a virus program for the bugs. Well, what happened, you know, many years later? You have an MRNA system and you're constantly coming up with new iterations, just like some kind of virus software. It's the same model essentially being deployed. So Epstein is very McLevelian in these emails. And that's not even counting his predator nature,

which is just so terrifying and sick that I don't even cover any of that. But the reality is that So yeah, so that's where I wanted to go next, actually. So I've got like 15 minutes with you. So I want you to spend some of this time telling me, you know, you haven't reported on this yet. What's going on? What do you think? What have you seen?

What was Epstein doing with sex and girls to manipulate these people like Bill Gates? Well, what came up in the files is that there are two Russian women, right, that are named. And there's even a third woman that somehow Bill Gates is. his chief scientific officer, Boris, you know, is sending money to $500,000 that comes from Bill Gates's personal account. And that Melinda is described as she cannot know about this.

These are the emails. They're so intimate that there was all this strange stuff. Why isn't that public now? Listen, Sarah, if you send just that one out in a single ex post, that will go, that will, I promise you, that will explode. It's out. Yeah. Because, you know, essentially what I'm looking at is, you know, everyone's concerned about foreign influence operations.

And this does tie into that because, of course, the disinfo dozen Secretary Kennedy were targeted by a UK-based set of NGOs. And it was all about trying to shut down people's speech and really influence our politics and even elections by violating our constitutional rights. Well, you know, he's working with Russian, you know, honeypots, one of whom was photographed with. a spy who was just kicked out of the country. So we know that that is a serious issue just from the perspective of national security. That's why I reported on it because I'm not interested in the tabloid elements, you know, and I'm not here to judge anybody, honestly. I just want transparency to be available to the public.

That's why these files exist. And I just want us to not fall back into the same grooves that have been set, which are preparing for another pandemic. All we have to do is listen to the who, right? they're telling us that already. Yeah. So what do we do? So back to solutions.

How do we unravel this mess? Do we get rid of DARPA? Do we, are we throwing the baby out with the bathwater? It's a hard, it's a hard thing. Are you working, by the way, you working with Sasha Latipova at all? Do you, you must know her and her stuff? I follow her a little bit, but yeah, not very closely. You two together would be an interesting combo.

So, but go ahead. What do we do? Well, now that we have Comer announcing from the House Oversight Committee that there will be a hearing where Gates will be brought in. Hopefully he'll do it voluntarily, but I think he will subpoena him in May. We have very specific questions. I think the public needs to ask of him how to address some of the things that have come up in the files. And some of those are very, you know, very basic questions regarding, you know, what he knew,

what some of the transfers were about. And, you know, was he aware of what Epstein was actually doing, you know, in his name? Because here's the big problem is that Bill, goes out there and says, well, you know, I just had a few dinners with him, nothing more. But you have contracts that were legally binding that he agreed to, which essentially indemnified Epstein from all the things that were probably going on that he knew about, as well as gave him confidential information about Melinda as a person. That's actually in the finals. What was that? That's a contract that he signed because his chief scientific advisor,

essentially, Epstein was given the equivalent of power of attorney over his scientific advisor, Boris, to do things on his path. Oh, my God. Yeah. And that's a big deal. That's wild. So, listen, now that actually has, that has, for me, has crossed over into feeling bad for Bill Gates because he is so thoroughly manipulated

by this guy, so thoroughly in this site. psychopaths web that he's signing over power of attorney and his wife's. That is, oh my God. Yeah, my latest substack gets into this. I do. You know, I felt some pathos for him as well because you see that Epstein is essentially creating a dossier and getting leverage over him. Yes, yes. Oh, but look, it's, but it's, it's a kind of leverage. It's different than I think what people think it is. You know, it's not a blackmail leverage. It's a weird. psychological, dark psychology that he's operating with it. It's incredible. It is. Yeah. That's why when you're in the files after a certain point, you start to get a

little nauseated. So I think after this series, I'm going to probably take a break from this topic because it gets a little heavy. So, well, listen, I want to thank you for the threads you've been putting out. They have been sensational and they've really helped I feel like I've got a view of what's the, before it was just sort of a roar shock what was coming out of the files and I feel like you helped sort of

focus it and make sense of it and follow some threads of ongoing story that we need to pay attention to. I hope to hell that somebody in that House oversight committee that is looking into this reads your threads. I mean, I don't know.

So you've figured out a way to do that. Well, I've actually put in my latest article suggested lines of inquiry for the May 19th hearing, which gives you the exact EFTA numbers and what questions should be asked. Because when you have legal agreements that have been signed, you know, this is no longer just about having a few dinners. This is about somebody that Bill Gates was working very closely with. And I think the public deserves to know when, in fact, the consequence of this collaboration was the creation of a structure that ended up being deployed. against all Americans and essentially shutting down our most inviable rights, like the right to breathe without a mask, right? I mean, this was insane. Oh, no, don't even, don't, don't starve.

Don't go down that path. You know, you can't even leave your house, forget it, but shelter in place. So those words were uttered every night here in Los Angeles. But it is, it is catastrophic. It is a catastrophic story for Bill Gates and it makes me feel sorry for him. It really does. And again, it's that story of, you know, if you're, if you're trying to do good and you don't understand potential harms and you're not taking a risk reward into effect and you're not, you know, paying attention to your own ego sort of contribution to saving the world, all this nonsense, it can go bad very, very, very badly. And this, and then Epstein, I wonder, I wonder who else you took care of or manipulated in a similar fashion.

I mean, it's it's a, it's Strativarius level, you know, well, remember in 2010 was really when Bill rehabilitated his image, like so many very wealthy and powerful figures have historically from Rockefellers to anyone who eventually would have a philanthropic arm, right? So this, there was a lot really riding on. him doing good for the world. And he made certain mistakes in his TEDx. He clearly stated that if we do a really good job with vaccination, then we could help reduce population. He has an elaborate explanation for why that wasn't as nefarious as it sounds. But when you're somebody who is doing

things that we know can do harm, and then he's in control of the media, $500 million, right? He's paid to media to basically cover up these things and prevent people like you and I from speaking. you know, then there is a certain level of culpability that is now being brought to. Yeah, that part, that part is inexcusable, inexcusable. And what I've learned through all this, whenever, it's one thing when people disagree, but when somebody suppresses an opinion, sci-op, that's it. Something's wrong. There's some nefarious forces at work in this country, for sure.

So with the last remaining minutes, what are you working on now? What's coming up for you? What's interesting to you? I have a question. Oh, wait, and Susan has a question, too. Go ahead, Susan. So I saw something about Bavstein's connection with Rothschild and Malaysia.

Yeah. And a bunch of alarms went off in my head because I did a real deep dive into the lost MH370 airline with a bunch of psychics about 12 years ago because it was really something that I was interested in. And I was wondering if you have any information or you know anything about that if I'm, I could be making this up in my head, but. Well, I mean, the only thing I can tell you, which is related, which is probably the most

powerful finding of the series, is the fact that Epstein essentially recruited Kathy Broomler, you know, which was Obama's, you know, attorney of, you know, for the country to go ahead and do a deal with Ariane de Rothschild where essentially they would negotiate a settlement with the DOJ related to evasion of taxes. And in that email, you know, ultimately for 80 million, they get the deal done. Epstein takes 25. Kathy gets 10 million. And Arian is overjoyed by that result. So this is what's been going on. Like they've been using, you know, the contacts to go ahead and monetize and to help out very wealthy people with their problems, which may not be illegal, but, you know, this did come up in the files. And that's actually in, you know, that's one of the parts of the.

series that is worth looking at. You know, I wish you would put out a little greatest hits thread. Like, if here are the things, you're the greatest hits from my, from my findings, because, man, there are, there are a bunch. But I'll go back to my question. What, what are you working on now? What interests you? What do you got going forward?

Well, you know, it's interesting. My main advocacy is actually around natural health and helping people understand how to heal themselves, very much like you. And, you know, I had a five-year detour because, believe it or not, due to the narrative weaponization that was used against me and Bobby, in my case, they tried to arrest me. They had an arrest application in the UK last year in a jurisdiction that I'm not a party to because of my speech here in the United States with my substack and my Instagram posts. That's what they cited as evidence that somehow I'm a danger and that I should be arrested. Now, that was declined by the judge it was given to, but the point is, is when they take these narratives and they launder them in other jurisdictions, it has profound effects on our constitutional rights. So I'm still trying my best to focus on delivering, you know, good things for the world by, like, providing the research on natural healing.

We have 100,000 studies on my website that they tried to destroy, you know. It's all about natural health. You know, that's what I want to focus on, but we have to get through this window, which includes these, incredible opportunities to have oversight and have hearings where Bill gets to testify and answer to some of these facts in the files. And I think that's exciting. But ultimately, I just want to, I just want to be with my family. I just want to, you know, just kind of like enjoy life a little. But right now we have a lot of responsible. You made the mistake of, well, I mean, now it's, you know, the access to the public is so democratized.

You made the mistake of putting into interesting material, important material out. So you're in it now. But thank you for being a part of the Maha gang. I know you've appeared there on the media tours that they do on Wednesdays, and you've been a loud voice to try to make things better. That's all without ruling the world, my friend, without taking over our basic constitutional privileges. Thank you.

I have a lot of respect for you, too. I know what you went through to help millions of people and face to platforming and defamation and look at you now. So I'm so happy that everyone is finally, you know, rising back and stronger than ever with the truth. So thank you for your service, too. Yeah, the truth is, it's, it is time for the truth to emerge. Truth is, truth was, you got to remember, we went through a period of maybe 12, 14 years where the truth was considered unimportant or just another way of looking at things, right? That what was subjective and what was political was more important than the truth.

truth and i that's what i knew we we got problems uh and so i have steadfastly held that the pursuit of the truth is not just an important it is the important task uh and in the meantime protecting our free speech and protecting freedoms as we pursue truth uh understanding that that we can never get an imperfect animal we can only get to an approximation of the truth but But there is a thing called something like the truth that is very helpful for us to understand. And I feel like you are a part of that story now. You're part of getting the truth out as it pertains to Epstein, which looked like something was difficult to understand. And now I think I have a deeper insight.

So I thank you for that. Don't go too far from Epstein. We need you. Thanks so much. Really appreciate it. All right. Talk to you soon. Thanks.

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Thanks, everybody back, Dr. So where should we start? Do you want to talk about the wellness projects? Because I'm fascinated by all that. To me, that's a, this is such an important thing you guys have put your finger on. And I think we should be talking about it constantly, frankly. Well, you know, maybe a good place to start is medical freedom just coming off of kind of Sayers conversation. You know, it's, I think, kind of like the six-year anniversary of medical freedom, really.

I mean, it really only emerged as a cause in 2020. I think if you asked anybody prior to that, they would have no idea what you were talking about. But I think one of the big things that medical freedom still struggles with is what's its voice? What's its unifying philosophy that brings people together? Is it vaccines? Is it glyphosphates? Like, what is it?

Right? And I think as we kind of go forward here and look under a MAHA, RFC-led HHS, I think it's good that people step back and think about the longevity of this move. What happens once Trump's out of the White House, right? How does this sustain and how does it grow? And we're really hoping that the wellness company could become a vessel of that. I mean, we offer a ton of educational products. And I would say that we're an education first company.

We want to give people choices. I would argue that the change you're discussing of medical freedom, that is inexorable. We're not going back. It was too traumatic what they did to us for us to accept not having medical freedom. And then when you consider that many people feel like their bodily integrity was violated as a result of this, it just, it's, we can't go back. You can't do that. As I was talking to say it, we've got to find ways to make sure it never happens again. And I'm a little frustrated that I understand they're all very busy and there's a lot going on.

They've accomplished a lot. but I'm frustrated that that hasn't been more up front because it could happen tomorrow and then what happens? Yeah, and look, don't get me wrong. I'm incredibly proud that we have RFK in the position that he is. I mean, he's doing things as, you know, the secretary of HHS that no secretary has done in decades, right? And that's very commendable.

And we all should acknowledge that. And also, I think the other thing that's not appreciated is the special interest that this guy is up against. I get why he's trying to get every voice he can into the discussion because big pharma, big ag, these are forces that we can't even comprehend the resources behind. And they will fight tooth and nail. And we've seen it throughout the past five years and everything on COVID and vaccines. We're seeing it right now with pesticides. We saw it during the bird flu with the culling of millions and millions and millions of poultry and cattle. All of these things are things that were pretty much engineered by these big groups to their own benefit.

And a lot of the times people don't even know. And I think so many things about something like calling of chickens, a lot of people would ask, well, Drew, what does that have to do with anything? Right. Well, it's pretty important if you think about it. Right. So the secret behind the bird flu was that if you're a farmer and you get chickens that are, sick, you're not paid out by insurance or USDA programs if that chicken dies. The only way you're paid out is if you call the entire flock. Now, the downside if you're a scientifically oriented

person is that if you call the entire flock, you will never get hurt immunity by definition, because that's not how it works. But that's profitable, right? The USDA will pay you per chicken culled. And look, if you're a big industrial operation, that's great. I mean, that's a cash payment right up front. You're going to be just fine. If you're a small farmer that's just trying to make ends meet from year to year, that can be devastating. It can take you years to get your flock or cattle back up to producing age.

It's these little things that are anti-scientific, and they're actually, you know, they favor big business in the special interests. And again, it reminds me of the decision-making that went on during COVID that Francis Collins eventually admitted, which is we didn't think about it. We didn't give any consideration to what the adverse of consequence would be of what we're doing. We just wanted to stop that thing.

It's like that people like that should not be in our lives that they should at least think about doing no harm. That should be a top of mind thought. And this is another one of those topics where they just harm people, harmed animals, harmed businesses without giving it any real thought. But can you talk about wellness care?

Are we able to talk about that? Absolutely. So, you know, we were talking, Drew, a few months ago, and I thought it would be nice to remind you this conversation. So, you know, we were talking about kind of as, you know, in your medical practice, your personal practice. Yeah. You know, you said something that shocked me at the time. That was, you know, that you have no idea, zero idea when one of your patients is checked into the ER. you have no idea

what other doctors are saying to your patient. It's completely invisible to you unless the patient is actively doing outreach. And I think vice versa, the patients might ask, well, who's monitoring my health? Who's paying attention to this? And the answer is nobody.

And I mean, that kind of stopped us in our tracks. I mean, it's kind of crazy to think in this age of information technology that we're so blind. And Peter, if you remember, it was me and McCullough going, yeah, we just have no. we have no one. That used to be, but where that came from was the divide that they created between

in hospital, hospitalist care and outpatient care, where you were either one or the other. And if you're doing outpatient care, you hopefully find a hospitalist that communicates with you. And I do have good hospice I work with, but it's all after the fact. And when people go to a nursing home, to other subacute care, that's also obscuring. at a different level. And the reality is, I don't know if I've shared with you, we just went through this experience with a woman having very close to us who had a stroke. And when she, the day she got sick, she said, I got to go back to Poland to be with my family. And we said, we will take you. And that's why we were in Poland a couple weeks ago. But it took four months of getting her

through the system and rehabilitated. And I had to, I had to supervise every step of the way. and we had some good services. We have good people working with us. But if I hadn't been there driving the ship and making decisions and pushing, I don't, she would still be laid up somewhere. She would not be in shape to get on a plane and go to Poland. She would not be with her family. And to me, that story is what wellness care is going to hopefully address.

You know, this part where people go into the system, some elderly patients. They can't advocate for themselves. their family's not around. So tell us about what you're thinking. Yeah, and God bless that you were there. But I'd also like to point out, Drew, even if you weren't there and say she did have a family member here, it's really hard on the families to navigate the health system.

I mean, you're an expert, right? So I don't know how you expect the lay person that's also trying to make a living and take care of their sick parent to do the same and give that same high level of decision making. So look, wellness care really seeks to bridge that gap, right? It's a preventative care service. And kind of as you've talked about before, you know, we spend a trillion dollars a year in the American budget on health care. 5% of that goes to preventative care.

It's a travesty. Wellness care is one of those preventative care services. So wellness care really serves as that interlocking mechanism between all your doctors and all the care you're doing. So it is a Medicare comfort service. So if you're in Medicare Part B and you have any sort of ongoing health conditions that you're managing, you're eligible. Sign up. You can get everything from monthly check-ins.

We will assign a concierge care team directly to you with care pros, with RNs, and with doctors. They'll review all of your information they will talk to you monthly or weekly to make sure that you understand your medicines, to make sure that you don't miss an appointment, to make sure that your doctors and specialists are all informed and all in the loop of what's going on. We will author a customized care plan. So we will have an hour-long conversation with you to really understand everything about your health, not just the meds you're taking, but we want to know lifestyle, diet, family support, sleep, everything that kind of makes you healthy, all these maha concepts that we're talking about. We want to know, and we'll devise a custom care plan and work with you month after month to see how we can have you adhere to it.

There is a huge body of evidence that chronic care management, like this is what wellness care provides, reduces mortality and reduces hospitalization visits. And that's really what it's all about. Of course. Of course it does. But what you don't have the perspective as I have being a primary care provider for all these decades, that back in the 90s, I was saying primary care is being

eviscerated. It's just being they're systematically destroying primary care. And I remember probably 12 years ago, I was on Anderson Cooper. I used to do CNN all the time. And I was on Anderson Cooper. He used to have this little roundtable. And Anderson was there, Anna Navarro was there. And they were asking me something about health care changes. And I said, well, you know, you're going to, when the physician extender comes in and they all went, physician extender, oh, my, what are you talking about? And I was like, oh, you're going to see physician. You're not going to see doctors.

They've made sure of that. And so. they've left a big empty spot in primary care, particularly where you guys are trying to fill. So it really is doing, and why shouldn't it be done this way? I mean, we have so much more advanced information systems. You can do what primary care used to do. One person used to do it. You can do it as a system now better. But somebody's got to do it.

And I know Oz is hot on this, and that's why he's created the resource to be able to do it. But, and it's going to take some adjusting and trial and error and figure out how to do it right. But ultimately, I feel like this is going to, this is going the opposite direction from what I've seen for the last 30 years. This is creating quality primary care in the new world, essentially. And it's very exciting for me. I got to tell you, I'm really hot on this top, this project. Me too, Drew. I mean, that's so well put.

And, you know, look, there's no incentives for the existing system to do this. hospitals get paid based on hospitalizations. As you said, primary care is kind of on its last breath here, right? I would say for most Americans, for most Americans, your primary care doctor is whoever you see at the ER during your next check-in. Or there's a sorry, sorry state of affairs. And I'm really happy that Dr. Oz is prioritizing things like this because it's going to make a massive difference. And Medicare covers all this stuff. That's the most amazing part.

There's no lobbying. It's already there. He knows it. He practiced. People don't remember because I know Oz intimately. And he was the chairman of the department of cardiothoracic surgery at Columbia

Presbyterian Hospital. That's one of the most elite positions in the country. Interestingly, McCullough had the other one on the medical side. So we're delighted to have him with us. But on the surgical side, this is the top, top, top of the heap.

So he understands medicine. He understands. He has great judgment in these areas. He's just second to none. And so he looks at this and he looks at it the way a fighter would look at it and starts looking at where the weaknesses are and how we can sort of improve things. Yeah, it's a breath of fresh air. And I love also how he's incorporating all these other disciplines that matter. Right?

Like you should have a pharmacist that can do a medicine reconciliation. You should be able to talk to a nutritionist. All of these services are critically important. and you're never going to get that done with the doctor. In wellness care, do we have a way to get physical therapy involved? Because you're going to find that's going to be a pretty key piece of all this, because falls and pain and strengthening and all this. Believe me, that's sort of one of the main issues that gets people back in the hospital

if we're not careful. Is that going to be part of the deal? 100%. We've actually been talking to Jillian Michaels about this very thing. And look, the thing that we need to keep in mind when it comes to, physical therapy for a lot of people, it might just start out with practicing sitting down and standing up. So we really need to also kind of... Listen, you're, you're, it almost always starts with that. It's just, and then it's walking to the bathroom and then using the toilet and having

the right equipment to be able to navigate a toilet or a shower. I mean, there's, people don't understand. Aging, aging and illness catches people off guard. They, they've not been exposed. to it. They don't understand what it is. And we can predict very reliably what your knees are going to be and how to meet them. Yeah, I think you once told me, Drew, that you can tell so much about somebody's health just by how they ambulate. So if we can really focus on the simple things, really enabling acts of daily living, it goes so far. And you're, you know, we're talking around this issue, but the people that are not just getting out of bed and just getting ambulatory, there's a whole other category in the aging category of balance.

Balance is one of the key reasons they fall. No one is helping them with their, you've got to train balance. You've got to train gait. You have to do these things. And unfortunately, people don't find out about it until they're in a nursing home after a hip fracture. Yeah, and that's really the tragedy, right? So we really want to work with people across all kind of phases of health, not just the kind of traditional allopathic, although that is important.

And just make sure that we have a very balanced and fair program that we can present to people and talk to them, make sure that they have someone to check in with. And I think that's also probably one of our kind of most shocking findings. And we have several thousand patients now in our first three months of launching it. And some of the most shocking things is just how grateful a lot of people are, They just have somebody that they can talk to. They don't feel like they're rushed off the phone. Oh, yes.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Well, and I, you know, one of our medical board members used wellness care for some of his post-surgical stuff. And he was saying that was the part that impressed him most was the, he had the sense that the provider that was contacting him cared about his case, which people want. That's what they're desperate for out there.

It really is. really hoping this opens a new horizon to health care in the United States. And we're extremely excited to also kind of be able to show not only CMS, but the country and what the benefits of this program are. Chronic care management has been around

its existed legally since 2015, but something like one or two percent of eligible people even take advantage of it. And it's because of the misaligned incentives. So we're going direct to people. We want people to sign up directly. We set up a dedicated website at

try wellness care.com. And we want people to come to us and sign up. Don't worry about getting a referral. You don't need any of that to do this program. And that's the beauty. Yes. Try wellness care.com. All right, we got this remaining minutes here.

Is anything else you want to highlight as we sort of wrap things up? I didn't talk to you before and what you wanted to discuss. I had my own agenda. But we've achieved my agenda. What did you want to discuss, Peter? Well, I think we can take this a lot of place. from here, Drew. You know, we are actively working very hard on some new and exciting products this year. Obviously, weight loss remains a topic of big contention in the United States. I don't know if you've

covered what kind of happened with Hymns and then yesterday or the day before with the FDA letters going out. It's quite an interesting time we're looking at in the world of pharmacy and GLP1 products. Is any of that affecting our Tresepitide product? No, and here's why. what people don't understand about medications is that a drug does not need to be FDA approved for it to be prescribed. And in fact, people don't understand this. Most prescribed drugs are not FDA approved. Anything that's prescribed off-label.

I actually got in fight, in a big fight with my co-host. I have deep affection for when I was doing that nightly show on Fox here locally during COVID. and I was making some point about the excesses of what we were being required to do. And he goes, well, what would the FDA say about it? I go, the FDA, who cares? He have no role in the practice of medicine? Here's words that never came out of my mouth when I was teaching medicine. What did the FDA say?

What did the FDA think you should do here? Never, ever, ever. They are determining what comes to market under what circumstances they apply to companies, not to doctors. That's absolutely correct. But, you know, people are getting a little nervous about this. So 30 letters were sent to companies yesterday about their marketing practices surrounding GLP1 products. So they're not saying people misunderstood the letter to say, well,

the FDA is clamping down on all non-approved GLP1 products. No, that's not what they're doing. Because also, that's not the FDA's scope. The FDA is saying you cannot legally claim that your GLP1 product is, you know, the generic equivalent to Zetbound or Manjaro or any of these other products by Eli and Lily. Now, Hymns, as you remember a couple weeks ago, gotten a lot of hot water about this and got sued by Nova Nordisk. They got sued because specifically on their ads at their big launch of their semi-glutide pill, they had a little button that said same active ingredient as we go for you.

You can't compare yourself as the same as a FDA-approved version of the drug. And even in our marketing of Tersipatide, people know what Tresipatide is. We don't need to explain that to them. We explain how ours is different, which is the administration route, right? We have a sublingual dissolvable tablet, right? So it works very differently

than the approved subcutaneous version that's on the market. And we feel like that's a much more palatable route, and that's really what we focus on and why we want people to consider it. And then you've got some even, I know you personally been working very hard on peptide products. That's still kind of,

The peptides are kind of a black box for me. I'm trying to educate myself on them. But that's one of the areas I assume you're working very hard. Yeah, we are. And look, peptides, as you kind of said, it's sort of the Wild West still, right? You know, another SNAP FDA action that happened the other day, they approve 14 peptides now for 5 or 3A compounding, which is great. So peptides are on the market.

These are things that they've deemed to be safe. Again, you know, they're not approving you to make any claims because these are are not FDA-approved drugs, but they can be used in compounded medications. Really, what we're working for, Drew, and this is probably a great topic to talk about in a couple months when it launches. We are working with a company that has IRB approval to do customized peptide stacks. It's not cheap. We're working on bringing the price down, but essentially they do a full blood test and a full urine test to get all your proteomics and your metabolites and really understand the signaling that's happening in your

cells, and then they'll design a custom course of peptides. They'll be taken twice a week over six months, and they have remarkable data on everything from longevity to mitochondrial function to cancer signaling. So there's very interesting applications here. You just need to be a little bit more strategic on it. Yeah, here's what I want you to do. I want you to please send me published data as it comes out so I can review it. and then when you're ready to talk about this publicly,

please come back here and let's go deep. Let's get into it because that sounds very exciting to me. And I want to be one of the patients in the study for sure, or just one of the patients, period. You know, if we're going to advocate, the things I advocate, I take. And so, you know, I can be right there. I love stuff like this. It's a new era of supplements and being able to sort of adjust our biology.

in really the interesting way. You know, whenever people say I look younger than my age, I always think, I was like, could be the stuff. I've been working on this. Look at longevity, probably, which is another great product you guys have, which is an NR longevity product. Yeah, and, you know, you help formulate that.

And look, I mean, longevity doesn't start when you're 60. And I think that's really important for people to remember, right? If you want to, if you want to look like you're younger when you're in your 60s or 70s, you've got to start in your 30s at least, right? and it's about daily application. There's no silver bullet. You can't just put some magic cream on your face and expect to look different overnight.

It's routine. You can't really reverse. You can't, yeah, you can't really reverse things. What you can do is prevent the rate of change. At this point, at least. But listen, Peter, I've got to run here. I appreciate you being here. Did we run the cycle?

I think we did. I'd love to also talk to maybe another time about Ivermectin and some of the studies that were launching on that. Oh, give them a tease. Well, we sell iburembergenex in Venezuela, though we've talked about it a lot, Drew. We had over 200 people respond to a survey

who were using it off-label for cancer, and we have some very encouraging initial results. We have over 100 follow-ups, and we want to publish a paper on it. Great. We look forward to that as well. Peter, thank you so much. Thank you, sir. And I'm sure I hope you were all as impressed as you should be.

by Peter's smarts and dedication to this project. Wellness has been a privilege to be a part of, and he's one of the big reasons why, as well as our founder, Foster, who has just done an amazing job pulling this all together and being the driving force and the one that found Peter. So we really appreciate the two of them creating this product.

I think it's going to make a big difference for people, and that's the only goal. And again, you know, we talked earlier about people making medical products without understanding the downside. We're very careful. We as a team of physicians involved that are high, high quality who worry about this stuff. I want to make sure we're only making decisions that help in the long term. So it's doctor.com slash TWC for more information. Put up the guests here, Caleb.

I believe we have interesting tomorrow. Michael Malice going to be in studio with me. we've got some interesting Aramea Deliqe I've been talked to him beforehand about organ harvesting since that is you know sort of a fall out of the Epstein Files pandemonium

there's who's coming up on the list keep a look at that we have lots of great guests coming I think you'll enjoy it and we've talked to Cracker before it's coming back and Dr. Kelly is that Dr. Victory? Yeah Dr. Victory is in on the schedule now so we will see you all yeah so she's

of course a fan favorite Let me look quickly at the restream, see if you've got anything. You know, Stevie wanted Fenbendazole in March of 2024. If you want to find a go to doctor.com slash GWC, go right through the website there and it's all there. Multi-sule DNA testing. Yeah, that's true. Imagine that. Okay.

And I'm going to go to the rants real quick. I've been working with you guys. Aaron, thank you. Mr. Joka. go go take a look at your data and see what you're actually talking about and we will go from there there's it's interesting when you actually break it out at this point not saying that people shouldn't get vaccines they of course should they should do it with the discussion with their physician and make the best risk-reward decision possible all right we'll see you guys tomorrow

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