Ask Dr. Drew - Jamie Foxx Health Scare: Is A COVID mRNA Booster To Blame? AJ Benza Shares Exclusive – Ask Dr. Drew – Episode 224

Episode Date: June 3, 2023

Why can’t Hollywood be truthful about COVID and mRNA vaccines? A.J. Benza – New York City’s most celebrated gossip columnist in the 1990s – discusses Jamie Foxx and other celebrities who have ...faced unusual health issues following the rollout of mRNA vaccinations against COVID-19. AJ Benza is a regular on the Howard Stern Sirius radio show. His television credits include hosting and producing E!’s Mysteries & Scandals, co-hosting Game Show Network’s highest-rated series (High Stakes Poker), and creating, producing, writing, and hosting his own late night talk show, A.J. After Hours. Listen to AJ’s podcasts on your favorite platforms, and daily for supporters at https://patreon.com/FameIsABitch 「 SPONSORED BY 」 • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew • BIRCH GOLD - Don’t let your savings lose value. You can own physical gold and silver in a tax-sheltered retirement account, and Birch Gold will help you do it. Claim your free, no obligation info kit from Birch Gold at https://birchgold.com/drew • GENUCEL - Using a proprietary base formulated by a pharmacist, Genucel has created skincare that can dramatically improve the appearance of facial redness and under-eye puffiness. Genucel uses clinical levels of botanical extracts in their cruelty-free, natural, made-in-the-USA line of products. Get an extra discount with promo code DREW at https://genucel.com/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 The CDC states that COVID-19 vaccines are safe, effective, and reduce your risk of severe illness. You should always consult your personal physician before making any decisions about your health.  「 ABOUT the SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. 「 ABOUT DR. DREW 」 For over 30 years, Dr. Drew has answered questions and offered guidance to millions through popular shows like Celebrity Rehab (VH1), Dr. Drew On Call (HLN), Teen Mom OG (MTV), and the iconic radio show Loveline. Now, Dr. Drew is opening his phone lines to the world by streaming LIVE from his home studio. Watch all of Dr. Drew's latest shows at https://drdrew.tv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 and welcome everyone i thought we'd do something a little different today i'm bringing in aj benza he is an old friend and host fame is a bitch politics is a bitch podcast and i thought it'd be very interesting to get a conversation about the unholy alliance these days of politics fame celebrity and uh how how challenging it must be for some celebrities that they can't even talk about what's happening to them medically or psychiatrically or if it runs counter to a narrative. It seems to me that's what's holding people back from being more forthcoming the way they had always been. We have an all-star lineup coming up. We have tomorrow, Kelly Victory comes in here.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Her show is Does on Wednesday with Dr. Pierre Corey. We have a vaccine-injured friend of mine coming in to talk to her with Ramya Gendra about what they're finding with the long COVID-type symptoms from vaccine, and you'll hear a firsthand account from an accomplished professional who got nailed by his second vaccine. Next Tuesday, Michelle Bachman and Brian O'Shea, and then next Wednesday, Asim Malhatra. So it is an all-star lineup. We'll get started right after this. Our laws as it pertains to substances are draconian and bizarre. A psychopath started this. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction, fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous. I'm a doctor for f**k's sake. Where the hell do you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals.
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Starting point is 00:02:36 Use the code Drew for an extra discount and free priority shipping. Again, that is GenuCell.com slash Drew. G-E-N-U-C-E-L.com slash D-R-E-W. As I was saying, A.J. Benz has been on Stern tons of times. He also was a columnist for the, hang on, I'm going to find it. It was not the New York Post. It was New York Daily News, I think it was. And yes, there it is, Daily News New York.
Starting point is 00:03:06 And he did a lot of sort of discovering, you know, sort of undercover work, let's say. He, as I mentioned earlier, also has two podcasts, Fame is a Bitch and Politex is a Bitch. And please welcome AJ Benzo. Hey there, Doc. How are you? I'm good. Good to see you, my friend. So I almost don't know where to start. Tell us about the podcast first and what you're talking about there.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Well, back in 2017, I had such a long career as a gossip columnist in New York that I wanted a place to tell my stories. Because when 2017 hit and we had Trump running and Harvey Weinstein and Me Too, I said to my partner who produces my show, do you have any idea how many stories I can tell about these guys? I knew Trump for 30 years. I know Weinstein, book deals, movie deals. You know, I'm going to be let loose.
Starting point is 00:04:01 And he said, if you can do it, we'll do it. That was six years ago, but I'm still telling stories. Yeah. Let loose. It's pretty funny. A lot of behind the scenes stuff I know. I was a journalist, but to be fair, when you get to the position I got at the Daily News, you almost become a Ray Donovan type columnist, if you know what I mean. These celebrities need help. They're in tight spots. And, uh, back in the nineties,
Starting point is 00:04:27 they would come to columnists like myself for that kind of help. It's, it's a different game now, but back in the nineties, was it, was it a, was it kind of a quid pro quo game back then you, that you'd help them out and then they'd give you some scoops later on.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Yeah. Yeah. That, that, that happened quite a bit. The gossip game is a lot of quid pro quo, and a lot of people don't realize that actors, recording artists, and such managers, the people they pay to protect them,
Starting point is 00:04:56 end up calling columnists if they need a mention of another client in the column. The columns are not what they used to be. 20, 30 years ago ago gossip columns were everything now you've got so many spaces to see news on celebrities but back then if you wanted your celeb or your restaurant to get a big opening or your club a movie they came to the columnists and we helped i mean we put we helped donald trump get elected president after you know making him a star on his TV show. I mean, journalists like me in the eighties and nineties are responsible for Trump's rise.
Starting point is 00:05:34 I bet. Um, I met my imagine that, uh, back his original project that Hyatt down was a Hyatt, I guess, down by grand Central. He needed a ton of press to get that thing going. He must have leaned on you guys hard back then. Donald Trump worked the price to say a joke that Donald Trump didn't check his pulse in the morning to see if he was alive. He would check the papers because he called every columnist and he was such a workaholic with the columnists that he'd give them items and then he'd repay him by mentioning his development deal or what supermodel he was with.
Starting point is 00:06:11 It just depended on what he wanted. You know, but I mean, we all know he's a narcissist. But by the way, I mean, I write the article. Then he'd have one of his assistants cut out my article. He'd circle his name, autograph it, and say, nice job. And he would circle the word billionaire and send it back to me. Not just me. Every columnist. What is that about?
Starting point is 00:06:37 He's like a cartoon character. Hey, before we go on, I want to remind everyone, we are on Twitter spaces. Although, Calebaleb i don't see you there you're normally my co-host and i have not seen you pop up yet i'm joining right now we're working through tech issues okay okay and i'm watching the uh restreamed chat and of course the rumble rant i'm over there with you guys susan is also there as well by the way so drew okay you need to unmute spaces too oh my god are you kidding me hold on okay hold on yes i can do that thank you sorry spaces i i'd let the mute button on that was ridiculous all right well
Starting point is 00:07:15 we're back in shape again well they have the option of watching it live on twitter until you figure it out yes how's that going in a way okay the twitter uh feed is that it's the same as everything else we're doing yes it is we have twitter we have twitch we have youtube we have rumble and we have some russian organization i have no idea where it is what is that caleb knows what's happening there's we have we have a few international platforms that we also uh broadcast to as well just to kind of reach the people where they are oh very interesting but before people ask no russia russia does not pay us to broadcast in russia it's just we go on all are welcome all are welcome if you remember back in the early days of the
Starting point is 00:07:59 ukrainian war i interviewed a russian woman remember julia julia and uh she was outraged by it so not everyone in in Russia is an evil villain. You know what I mean? It's just like here. Our government does stuff we don't like as well. Okay, enough of that. So I wanted to dig in a little bit on what celebrities are up against these days in terms of towing a political narrative at all times it seemed to me
Starting point is 00:08:29 i saw something yeah i saw something about jamie foxx that you had mentioned and we can get into that a few minutes but and i don't know what happened to jamie foxx but i thought to myself wow he can't even tell us what happened unless somebody should think it's something that's not right with the narrative i thought the same thing of course of uh damar hamlin when he collapsed so you couldn't you couldn't speculate about anything else because if you did you were you were vilified what's what is that what is what are they doing what is that how do they deal with that are they fall all in on it do they care what do they think well i Well, I think most people in Hollywood are on the left anyhow. So, yeah, they toe that line.
Starting point is 00:09:10 They don't give any indication about vaccinations. They stay away from that. There's a code of silence in Hollywood right now, and it's been that way for the last couple of years, where they're just not going to talk about the vaccination. They're staying away from that hot button topic but we all know any one of us who've done some shows in the last three years or appeared on camera covid tests were mandatory you couldn't work without them you couldn't go on a set without them there might have been a couple of instances where they allowed it but by and large they were ridiculous they were ridiculous they're they were absurd they spent millions of dollars totally wastefully it was absurd all in the name of being perfectly uh aligned with this i don't know what they were doing this uh zero
Starting point is 00:10:01 covid policy i guess uh you know no one's safe unless everybody's safe. It's respiratory virus. No one's safe. It roared through. You said you've had it four times. I credit you for saving my life the first time. The first time I had it, I called you. I felt bad for three days or so.
Starting point is 00:10:24 You told me to get an oximeter for my finger, check my oxygen level, my blood. And you said it should be in the high 90s. And mine was like 89. And you said, go to the ER right now. And I did. I spent eight days in ICU. The COVID turned to pneumonia. It was scary and painful.
Starting point is 00:10:40 And that's the only reason why I got the vax because I had pneumonia seven years ago. I don't know where I never smoked in my life, but I got pneumonia. I thought, well, I don't want to get this a third time because it's painful. Pneumonia sucks. Eight days in ICU is not fun. So I got the vax and I got one booster. I got the J&J and I lost a few friends the last couple of years who got the injection. One of my best friends died last Saturday. Paratrooper, ex-special forces, 51 years old, in best shape of his life. I mean, lived life.
Starting point is 00:11:18 You have no idea. Just goes to sleep, doesn't wake up. Black guy. Oh, my. I think this ties into the jamie foxx theory i've i worked my buttock to get a story about why what happened to jamie foxx because it was all baloney what they were reporting he's playing pickleball he's responding on instagram no he's not and people do that for you it's all lies i had somebody in the room who let me know that Jamie had a blood clot in his brain after he got the shot. He did not want the shot, but the movie he was on, he was pressured to get it.
Starting point is 00:11:54 This movie he's doing with Cameron Diaz. And I'm thinking, is that why he blew up on the set a week before this medical emergency happened? Is that why he fired three or four people? Because he just had had it with these mandates? I don't know. But what I found out from the man in the room was that the blood clot in the brain caused him at that point to be partially paralyzed and blind. Because if you read into what they were saying early on, he's communicating with us. That doesn't mean talking.
Starting point is 00:12:25 That could be anything. It could be, you know, writing, sign. You know, I know those little code words. And then when you tell me your father's playing pickleball, give me a break. You know, I don't know. There's a great shroud of secrecy around Jamie Foxx. He's probably the most multi-talented person we have in Hollywood. But even TMZ is not reporting this. And I know TMZ has got sources in hospitals who give them
Starting point is 00:12:51 information, whether it's legal or not, but they're not, they're not. Mike Tyson got close. A week after I broke my story on my show, Mike Tyson said thatie had a blood clot in his brain no one's gone that far to say that yet uh i think mike did and he probably got a phone call hey jay let me let me let me sort of step back a little bit from what you're saying and just say look blood in the brain is a cerebral bleed it's not a stroke a stroke is a blood clot in an artery to the brain that cuts off the blood supply to the brain and the brain dies so we're talking about and it's been widely known that he had a stroke right i mean they've said stroke a hundred many times yeah so it's it's to say it's a blood clot in the brain is sort of it's a stroke it's a blood clot in an artery that cuts off the supply. That part of the brain is dead.
Starting point is 00:13:46 And it has very serious consequences. It depends on which artery and what the anatomy of that artery is to what parts of the brain and whatnot. But it is not something that, I mean, let's put it this way. Is he still in the hospital? Is that what I'm supposed to believe? And playing pickleball? It's all baloney. it's all baloney it's all baloney the daughters are doing the speaking for him his oldest daughter corinne is doing the speaking she said he's been out of the hospital for weeks but that's not true he's at a very good hospital in chicago who specializes in this kind of rehab um and every friend who comes out whether it's kevin hart or nick cannon or whoever all says
Starting point is 00:14:27 pray for jamie he's got to get through this nobody comes out with great news it's always somber so he's in a bad spot let's talk about let's talk about let's try to i always have to dismantle the medical reporting because it is so freaking inaccurate and pathetic so let's talk about pray for jamie what are we praying for what exactly do people expect if there's a stroke that brain is gone now if he wants to walk again i think that's that's a thing to pray for that he could it depends what again what the distribution of this thing is but play the piano again and that kind of thing i mean oh boy you know i mean that's it has to be a very small stroke and hopefully that's the case i mean hopefully it is uh and
Starting point is 00:15:10 and then i heard a rumor that he may have had hypertension was he did he have high blood pressure also yeah he's been on those meds and you know my buddy who died uh was also a black man and i feel like that well you would know this don't they have more of a uh don't don't don't black folks have more of an issue with hypertension and then uh high blood pressure yes yes and it's a little often more difficult to treat especially the men it's a little kind of a different quality to it yeah it's a little bit of a different thing and if they don't stay on it and get you know take the they have strokes. I mean, that's just what happens. So then my brain goes, well, it's also possibly a post-COVID phenomenon, right?
Starting point is 00:15:52 I mean, as you found out, COVID is horrible. I don't know if you had long COVID or not, but let's talk about your condition before we go all the way down the Jamie Foxx sort of rabbit hole. So you got, in spite of a vaccine and a booster and natural immunity you got it again well i got it first without the without the shot it was bad eight days icu then i got it three more times with the booster and the shot and um first time was five days of and you know night sweats to the point where i had to change my shirt. My bed was soaking wet. I never saw that in my life. And sore throat.
Starting point is 00:16:27 And the last two were like three days of just general malaise and sore throat. And I didn't even bother to check the last time if I was positive because I'm like, I've been through this. I know what this is. I'll be okay. Stayed in my room, got better in three days. And that was it. It is, you know, there, there is a sort of a new emphasis. In fact, I was thinking I should probably take a test.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Cause I'm feeling very weird today. And I just thought, Oh, who knows? But who knows? But, but that's an important thing for people to remember. We only have like 10 COVID tests stashed away. I know. Good. I'll take,. Let's take one on the air. I'm trying to find a closet for all of them. Let's do it right here on the air. Seriously, let's do it here. That's so ridiculous. Susan.
Starting point is 00:17:12 We have a break in like 10 minutes. I can't tell if you're listening to me. We do it over the break. What's that? We have a break in like 10 minutes. When did you start feeling it? I felt just very weird yesterday. I thought I over-trained.
Starting point is 00:17:23 And today I'm, sometimes I get like this after I've really over-exerted myself. But I'm uncannily weird today. Just tired. But it takes three days before the test shows positive anyway. Yeah, that's true. That's true. And then you'll have a false sense of security and go out. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:17:39 The main thing is I know for a fact since I got that shot, I don't feel the same as my my old body is not it's not the same i'm just different i wake up different now i walk different something's you think that again this is the hard this is the hard part of knowing he's doing the study to parse these things out do you think that is the covid it's the vaccine the covid plus the vaccine the j and j versus the booster, the booster versus you've had, you've had all these things and we don't know which is the one that's making you sort of different. No, we'll never find out. I just know I feel different. And you, you wake up nowadays, we wake up and the littlest tickling on throat, we think COVID
Starting point is 00:18:20 right away. And we start batting down the hatches. What do I have to take? There's nothing really we can do. It's very scary. It's not scary anymore because even that new XBB.1.16 is really a mild, mild thing. And whenever I get these Omicron-type variants, I'm like, good, now I've got immunity for a while. This is good. I'm going to be okay now for a period of time. but we don't know what the long-term effects of this thing is we don't know long-term effects of the vaccines per se even though people claim we do
Starting point is 00:18:54 i took the j and j like you and i had a terrible reaction to that yeah i heard i know what made you take the what made you take the booster i don't you know what my sister and her husband are in their late 70s. I was staying with them in Chicago a lot. There's two little granddaughters there, three and two. And I travel a lot. Fair enough. Let me be specific for them.
Starting point is 00:19:17 And that's what I did. But I regret it. But then again, Doc, if I've had covid three or four times the last couple were easy to get over one time my girlfriend caught it and i was and the next i didn't get it at all it's just such a strange thing that's because you have all this natural immunity and it may be the case i mean it's it's just the thing about these vaccines it's not all one way or all the other i mean it's reason like one way or all the other. I mean, it's reason, like I've vaccinated all of my elderly patients.
Starting point is 00:19:50 They have been very much benefited by it. I've seen almost no side effects in that population. But the question is the risk reward. In your case, you have little kids, you had elderly people around. It makes perfect sense to me that you want to do what you can, even if the coverage is only three months. You know what I mean? Even if it is three or six months of coverage okay and maybe maybe it'll also reduce the severity of illness when when you do get it which is inevitable and so okay i can sign off on that
Starting point is 00:20:13 but we don't know at what cost we just don't know and so now going back to jamie um and and for that matter demar hamlin the two of them i, that was also shrouded in secrecy. How do people get to the truth and what do they imagine they're doing by not telling the truth? Well, I mean, look, as a journalist, and I'm not a practicing journalist as much as the people who write nowadays, but they are towing a line constantly with this COVID stuff. No one finds out the truth. No one's allowed to talk about it. How many deaths do we read about of people in their 20s? These athletes are racehorses on the pitch, in the field, on a court, dropping, fainting at the White House four days ago no one talks about it can we find that if she was vaccinated is this myocarditis what's going on no way you're not allowed to talk about
Starting point is 00:21:11 it you know i don't know you're not allowed to talk about it i i don't know that's my point now now the medical literature has been very silent on this too although it's just starting to break loose a little bit one particular journal called annals of internal medicine is starting to publish stuff and ask questions and nobody reacted to it i noticed and they were asking things they published things that could not have been published six months before about early treatment how fluvoxamine and budesonide works about how we should be doing observational studies on the vaccine by doing more just match controls going forward for a few months and we're doing nothing we're just doing nothing it's so weird so uh anyway uh hopefully that will be the ice will start to melt and we'll get some of
Starting point is 00:21:55 that some of that going and there are people and that are you know max you know absolute uh categorical vaccine advocates. God bless them. Me, just for right now, what I said to you, Restream is going crazy saying, oh, yeah, you're a vax pusher. You're still for pharma. No, I'm trying to have a reasonable approach to this thing we've been through. Absolutely. All right. So here we are.
Starting point is 00:22:24 So these people cannot report. Is there any sort of movement amongst journalists or gossip columnists, even, or people that report celebrity press to try to do something or the, the, the, did you, by speculating cause anybody else to jump in and speculate? No, that's, it's really scary. And, um, I didn't speculate. I had a source in the room who gave me the information. It was a very good source of mine who's a Hollywood guy.
Starting point is 00:22:55 And no, no one's followed up on it. The closest was Mike Tyson saying Jamie had a blood clot or a stroke. That's the closest thing that's been written to what I said. And that's really odd. But I'm not in newsrooms right now. So I don't know what the mandate is in newsrooms, but I know that if you keep reading about the deaths of young athletes and you don't mention the possibility of a VAC situation, I don't know what you're doing as a journalist.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Or a post COVID or both or something. I'm looking at a physician. I know in my audience here, Siobhan, if you can come up, I'm going to invite you to speak again because I'm wondering if you also have some thoughts about this. He's an infectious disease doctor that comes in here once in a while for me, but he's not coming up today.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Somebody on rumble said they had a dental implant fail after covid a dental implant fail yeah i mean oh i got a story too you can you can associate you can associate a single event with anything downstream you also had a hemorrhoid you know i mean it's like yeah i know you just kind of wonder don't know what that means. Let me throw this in the mix. I've never said this before, but my girlfriend and I, I'm going to be 61 in a week, in a few days. She's 45. I got her pregnant and she lost it to a miscarriage. And when she went to her doctor, he said, is your boyfriend or yourself vaccinated? She said, he is. And this gynecologist said, we've seen 200% increase in miscarriages in women who are with men with the vaccination.
Starting point is 00:24:42 So Naomi Wolf is reporting stuff like this when you know you for having said that will now be vilified me for allowing you to say it on this show will be vilified i don't know if it's true or not i don't know go ahead and come up to unmute your mic here comes a here we are hey do you hear what i was talking about oh oh my goodness this is you know why because it's coming through on my phone instead of through the system so thank you for coming up hold on hold on here this is not good so one second we've had lots of weird little technical things today no yeah i'm not i'm using this thing you're using using the wrong phone. Okay, but either way, it's... I bought you the new phone. I know, either way.
Starting point is 00:25:27 You can go get it. It's in my bag. Hold on, everybody. You put on speaker? Yeah, I like that. You like that? That's cool. Yeah, it's like the old days. I like that. I got it.
Starting point is 00:25:43 So, listen, Shreya, i'm gonna let you uh talk here on my mic and you so what we were talking about was whether or not jamie had a stroke and what the implications were and how the press was so true hi it's caleb i actually i think we a lot of people really want to hear what he has to say so why don't we do a quick break while you guys fix the tech issue and get that plugged in so everyone can hear what he says okay she's doing it right now she's doing it right now do you want to go to break real quick drew so no hold on i go on his twitter spaces with my phone without it all turning off don't turn it off if i log no no yeah you can't that wouldn't work susan because then it'll have an echo. Let me get the other phone, Drew. Your new phone. But the other phone has to be logged in as Drew. Is that on?
Starting point is 00:26:27 That's the tech issue there is it can't be. Can you go on the other phone? You can't because you're logged in on Drew's phone. People can't be here. Are we going to do tech right now while we're live? Yes, we are going to. Okay, good. You used the wrong phone.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Why don't we do that during the quick ad break that's supposed to start in five seconds? All right, let's do that. Let's do the ad break. AJ, Ben, everybody everybody can we restart the twitter spaces again though caleb can you set that up and i'll get the other phone all these all these poor people no we can't we got to keep the same twitter spaces it doesn't this is going to be hilarious for the podcast we got to keep the same twitter so aj uh and they'll they'll shit on us for that. Don't worry. AJ, where can people go to find you on social media? Oh, I'm at AJ Benz on Twitter. I'm at, well, go to my show.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Go to patreon.com slash famousabitch. I do five shows a week behind Patreon. I do one free show a week where you can get all your podcasts. But yeah, I get very, very much more exclusive with my stories on my patreon content i break stories there and um it's more fun to be there for sure all right we will uh continue to work on a little technical problem here and back with aj benza after this all right a lot of you have been asking for more information about how to counter the adverse effects of the spike protein from COVID infections and the COVID vaccine. The spike protein is not your friend.
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Starting point is 00:31:14 and whether or not there's something about passing protest i i don't know it doesn't make sense to me but uh you know i'm open to things i i i took a quote today i think it's going to become my uh my personal mantra i'm going to tell you uh here it is it's from a guy he's a psychoanalyst who wrote about totalitarian states from many years ago and he said our human strength lies in our diversity and independence of thought in our acceptance of non-conformity in our willingness to independence of thought, in our acceptance of nonconformity, in our willingness to discuss and to evaluate various conflicting points of view, in denying the diversities of life and the complexity
Starting point is 00:31:53 and individuality of the human mind, in preaching rigid dogmas and self-righteousness, we begin gradually to adopt the totalitarian attitude we deplore. Your thoughts? Yeah, well, that's exactly what's happening. I mean, look, I'm not going to sit up here and jump up and down and say I'm Trump 100%, but I'm certainly not more than 3% Biden. I think what's happened since he got in the White House has been atrocious.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Everything's falling to pieces. People no longer get to say what they want to say i've never seen the country like this doc i mean i've never seen it like this no i know i used to work in newsroom i know you never talked about political alliances this is insane the trans movement you know pride onesies for transsexual kids at Kohl's and Target what is going on well again whatever Target wants to do and if it helps people who are transgender great but why does it have to be a battleground why would you give a three-month-old a onesie that says trans lives matter I mean if that's the parent that's not the kid if the kid grows up to be
Starting point is 00:33:05 trans i understand you know live your life but don't cram it into our children and i i don't know i i think most i don't know my instinct as a kid was and i'm wondering where this has gone but if if uh i had been dressed like that by my mother, I would have been furious that she did that. Of course, of course. I mean, we had the wrong corduroys when we were young. We got bullied in school. I feel for people who go through this, and I know it exists. I know it's not a made-up thing, but it just can't come toward kids.
Starting point is 00:33:39 It can't come to sexualized children. That's all they're doing. Well, that's certainly the issue that people are worrying about. But back to, I wanted to go more into the celebrity world and politics. Have they, you know, it's so opposite of, say, the days of George Carlin and the way celebrities used to think. And I would argue anybody you would see on johnny carson oh i know um frank sinatra i remember seeing him talk about things and it was just so there was sort of a pushback against any authority the authority was like suspect
Starting point is 00:34:17 now authority is you know not just authority but the fbi the c CIA, the CDC. These are all thus sayeth the Lord and can't be questioned. That's so contrary to everything that was going on in our day. And one of the things it seemed like to me back then, we sort of elevated the kind of the narcissist outcast you know the kid at 14 was depressed and had hair over his face and learned to play the guitar so he could meet
Starting point is 00:34:53 girls essentially and we elevated those guys to high status high status and there were problems with that too humbly I would say as well but I'm wondering what it is we're doing today by elevating people that are intolerant. I don't know if you saw it today, but it's kind of funny. An AOC parody page has popped up that sort of seems to be landing.
Starting point is 00:35:21 And AOC is going crazy. And I think it's hysterical. I think she ought to just turn it and just lean into it. She could gain a lot of respect for that, but it doesn't seem that she is. They don't know what to do. They don't know what to do about it.
Starting point is 00:35:34 They're very hypersensitive right now. Everything is hypersensitive. When I do my shows, I'm the opposite. I'm a lot like Adam Carollo. You know, I just say what I want to say. I refuse to bend to these people. I just refuse. I know what the world was like.
Starting point is 00:35:53 I saw a commercial the other day on YouTube that ran, I guess, in probably the early 80s. Everybody, all these big movie stars singing God Bless America, Lucille Ball, Don Rickles. I mean, a lineup of big stars, John Wayne, singing God Bless America as a commercial on TV. We're so far from that. Oh, yeah, of course. And to be fair, I mean, those people had some issues. I mean, there was some stuff going on with them,
Starting point is 00:36:23 and we're reexamining all that now. That's great. Who doesn't have issues? I mean, probably you. You're like the one guy that probably has none other than anything wrong. But I can tell you what's going on. I think you have to always watch yourself. And I always thought that's what sort of was being asked of us.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Like, just pay attention, which I'm delighted to do. I'm happy to us like just pay attention which i'm delighted to do i'm happy to do that if i'm not getting something right i'm happy to do it but to be told consistently that you're bad or your kids are bad or that you're part of some cabal that's hurting other people that that is hard to stay with you eventually sort of want to push back on that and i'm afraid that pushback could be kind of intense yeah and the one i will say this the one thing that's a positive i was a little league coach for my son for eight years and um there were years where i had a kid on my team who was named claudio and then two years later he's claudia and i would say to, wait, didn't we have him on the team two years ago in basketball? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:27 And now he's a girl? And my son would say, yeah, dad, it's no big deal. Like the younger generation has no issue with this, which is a beautiful thing. Right. But there's such a chasm between them and us. Like I want that kid to be happy in whatever skin he's in but i gotta stop sometimes oh that's shocking to me it's shocking well and i don't know like it is the same thing as you as your parents taking issue with jerry garcia or something you know that your parents
Starting point is 00:38:01 like what do they see in that guy so So much hair. What's going on there? Yeah, it's the Beatles argument. Yeah, of course it is. But this seems to be going at the root or the heart of our country more than other skirmishes we had in the past with our generational, you know, differences. This seems to be a much bigger stronger bitter fight it's every day and i think all these companies are just trying to it's exhausting they're just trying to get social points they're trying to be get their social register up there they know it's not good business i mean i don't understand don't their shareholders have something to say
Starting point is 00:38:40 it's not good business to do it but like maybe Maybelline and Coles and Target yet they do it they're learning and maybe they're experimenting I don't know but you would think they could predict something like that so we rebooted our Twitter spaces I'm sorry everybody who was in that last room I'm gonna get see if I can get Siobhan back up in here if he's yeah the new connector he probably gave up i don't blame him but so so i want to i want to circle back though to celebrity and to to actors is is there absolute either silence or categorical compliance is that just because they want the jobs they just want to they want to work or is it because they're they're you know they they are some of them really believe some of this stuff i'm sure but but the the the degree like just jamie fox again is a great example is i mean
Starting point is 00:39:35 you know his whatever happened to him has nothing to do with racism nothing to do with transgender nothing to do with anything he had a medical problem with maybe the you know the complication of something common that we're all connected to either covet or vaccine or both we'd like to know uh it'd be sort of the the the healthy it would be the uh serve from a service standpoint it would be nice to know what's being thought of there. So other people might have to not have the same problem. No, I just think they're not. No, I think the vast majority of Hollywood, the bosses and the big actors, et cetera, and on down, they are so left leaning that they just believe whatever comes out of the CDC, Dr. Fauci, NIH, they just go with that. Now, privately, they may not think that way. And I think Jamie Foxx, I know Jamie Foxx for 20
Starting point is 00:40:34 years. I know the kind of guy he is. If he doesn't want something, he comes down pretty hard. He's not one to mess around with. Great guy, but he's got a line and i think that um i think i think i don't know i don't think he wanted that booster but i think they made it because don't forget the um the uh the shots the vaccinations were called off in mid-may for hollywood jamie's situation happened in mid-april so we're talking a month before Hollywood pulled off the whole thing. And the president of SAG, Fran Drescher, was always about the actors having their own
Starting point is 00:41:11 belief system. They should do what they want. Yes, she was. She tried her hardest. So isn't that a little odd, though? That's kind of interesting because Fran, it seemed to be, had been much more moderate, for lack of a better way of describing it, more reasonable. And she sort of kind of spoke up about it a little bit, but there's nothing she could do because this infrastructure was so powerful, they couldn't really do anything about it.
Starting point is 00:41:40 And so finally it became absurd. It just was absolutely theater. I think they shut her down. I don't think they wanted her to keep talking that way. She had a few days where she sounded off and then it just went away. You know, look, plenty of us have followed the science, nobody more than you, and have seen all these ridiculous, absurd things become untrue and falsehoods. And, um,
Starting point is 00:42:07 why the powers that be in Hollywood still decide to act or lean in line with this baloney is beyond me. How it's not even a question of being, it's just, yeah. So, so here's something a little more provocative i noticed um i i thought the little mermaid looks like a great movie i have no no thoughts other than i hope i hope they do
Starting point is 00:42:34 it looks beautiful i hope i have no thoughts um but today the hollywood reporter reported that in china it was it bombed and that the chinese people specifically were taking issue with the casting and the reporter as opposed to saying uh we're learning something about that culture they said it's because it was reviewed negatively by people who took issue with it and i thought oh my god you've got to be kidding me no they're telling it's a lie it's a lie asian people as a new yorker and even a guy who's lived in la for 20 years asians and blacks don't get along i know you see them in commercials all the time eating chilies but they don't get along that's i can't i can't let that sit because it's such a you know such a sweeping statement age i don't like it but but
Starting point is 00:43:25 let's say you've seen trouble sure go to bodegas go to korean markets they don't get along but look at the la riots where the koreans had rifles well then we should be working on that whether we should figure out what as opposed to saying it's the people that reported the news the the review of the movies let's find out what's going on and kind of work on that as opposed to, you know, pretending it's not happening or whatever. I am concerning. They also make high quality original accessories for your iPhone that don't
Starting point is 00:43:54 work either. Was this a Chinese instrument that I made in China? Made in China. It could have caused a bit of trouble for us today. I make sweeping statements, I know. And you're very pointed and exact. I'm the opposite of you. But I tend to have a generalized feeling about culture.
Starting point is 00:44:18 I've been a New Yorker and an LA guy. I know that blacks and Asians don't get along. It's just whether you want to believe it or not, they't they don't they they black steal from their shops it just happens and they have fights there's shootouts there's knife attacks every week every week that's so let's go back to celebrity back to celebrity what what is on your mind these days what kinds of things do you see that are sort of making you crazy in terms of things that people lines that people are towing things that people are doing uh are there issues that you talk about on your pod that they're sort of grinding your gear so to speak yeah yeah lately a lot of it has been about the transgender movement and what's happening.
Starting point is 00:45:06 And my show is not only about Hollywood. I tend to go into social issues as well. But Hollywood especially, they lead the league in following these woke issues, what have you. And, you know, I could just tell when people in Hollywood, and boy, we've talked about this, the mental health issues with Britney Spears and different people like that. Her story alone is atrocious. No one's helping the girl.
Starting point is 00:45:32 I mean, we're watching Judy Garland die in front of us again, and no one's helping her. This will be the biggest story in 50 years. You know? Well, do you know why that is? I mean, so she got very very sick when she was a lot younger so so ill psychiatrically that she was put in a hold against her will and then ultimately that hold they brought a judge into her hospital room and had a hearing and the doctor made his or her k i think believe it was a female physician
Starting point is 00:46:01 that why britney needed 14 days because she was too wildly psychotic. So 14 days in the hospital. At the end of that, she was put on a conservatorship, which is impossible to get. So that means that something really bad was happening. But for the years following that, she did great. She was able to function. She had a lot of treatment. She worked. She had relationships. She did very very very well and then then again got kind of paranoid
Starting point is 00:46:31 about it wanted to get out of it i fully support that because my goodness aj look out your window in los angeles you'll see people that need conservatorships way more than britney spears and no way they can get it no way uh so now she's out and and it's getting kind of it's almost i i find it sort of um sad is sort of too powerful a word uh because i i believe i believe somebody is helping her and i believe that's her husband i believe that guy is really, he may not be. Yeah, I think so because somebody is holding her together and watching her and
Starting point is 00:47:09 hanging on to her. And I mean, she's doing some funny stuff in front of Instagram, which looks peculiar as though her whole identity is out there in the world rather than in here. I think it's psychotic what she does on Instagram, the dress rolling around in sand, naked,
Starting point is 00:47:24 the holding her boobs together in the shower. She's got two young sons. They're mortified, man. They're moving to Hawaii with their dad. They're mortified. She hasn't talked to them in a year. No, I don't think what she's doing is fun at all. I think it's sad and depressing.
Starting point is 00:47:41 And this is going to be when she finally unfortunately god forbid kills herself we have to blame a lot of it has to be on her fans who this new culture of live your life girl yes queen you're the best the opposite effect on people she doesn't need that she shouldn't hear that she needs care right that's right and so I I while I agree with you she's not exceptional her as what is for what is going on in California today which is no one is allowed to get care no one is no matter how sick they get unless they say I'm going to kill somebody and here's how or I'm going to kill myself and here's how, or I'm going to kill myself and here's how. If five minutes later they say, just kidding, then you can't touch them.
Starting point is 00:48:28 That's California. And so she's not unique in that regard. And to that point, something's keeping her kind of glued together. I think there's something positive going on there. I'm not sure. But it's just interesting that go ahead i know i just know that sam what bothers me about sam is that i know that he was on james uh jamie spears payroll early on to make sure that britney was you know doing what she needed to do and he was
Starting point is 00:49:01 getting paid every day a nice amount of money from Brittany's dad. That's a weird thing to enter into a relationship with, or this marriage, which I don't believe is even a marriage. I didn't see any certificate. I don't buy it. I think it was a big party. I never see with friends. I never see with anybody. I rarely see her with him. I think this guy's going to walk away in the next year or two and i think that he's gonna get a nice little payout of five to ten million dollars and the next guy that comes into britney's life hold your breath she's got nobody well where are her friends show me a video of five friends hanging out of your house it's just so sad is there anyone around here she's very isolated is there anyone around who's not being paid i i doubt it he's asked caleb asked if there's
Starting point is 00:49:48 anyone around her is not being paid i i i doubt it but i i believe i'll stand by my opinion for the moment until until i'm proven otherwise i because he's hanging in through a lot he looks like he cares he you know he's the one she goes out with and hangs with and does stuff with and if it weren't for him she would be completely alone it really would be sad who knows what would happen there i i'm curious the one thing i i'm just curious what he'd you never see him on these instagrams i'm just curious if he's going hey honey come on or if he just goes all right that's fine whatever let it let just do that just don't lose it in public i think he's going oh come on or if he just goes all right that's not whatever let it let just do that just don't lose it in public i think he's going oh come on i think he's had it i think he's had it but he's getting
Starting point is 00:50:31 i don't want to say the wrong thing but he's got a nice piece of ass in bed you know she's crazy she's wild he's he's with the young cops though not young anymore but a mid midlife pop star he's got a good life millionaire he's got a great life. He's a millionaire. He's got a great life. He's now acting in movies. He's like a Mickey Hargitay in Jane Mansfield. He'll bust out of this marriage. It'll be over one day, and he'll get his money
Starting point is 00:50:56 to go away. I get what you're saying. What did you think of I'm blanking on his name now, that has been married to Barbra Streisand forever? James Brolin. James Brolin. Did you have a similar feeling about him when he got involved?
Starting point is 00:51:15 Got involved with what? With Barbra Streisand. With Barbra Streisand? See, I'm wondering what your bias is. My bias is very positive. I see the best in people. But I'm wondering what your bias is. My bias is very positive. I see the best in people. But I'm wondering what you thought with that one. No, I don't think Barbra Streisand is a nutcase or bipolar.
Starting point is 00:51:31 I think that he's a handsome guy. And, you know, I have no problem with their relationship. So you didn't see any alternative. That one, because back when that happened many, many years ago, I thought, what's he doing? And then it ended up working out. It ended up working out. And I thought, oh, I was, I guess wrong, but I'm wondering.
Starting point is 00:51:53 You want to talk about Stedman and Oprah? That's a better one to talk about Stedman and Oprah. I mean, that's the one that people are still always going to mention. Like, what is the deal with Stedman? I really don't care. I don't, I don't think he's gay. I think they just have a different kind of relationship. Oprah's a different kind of person. She's been ultra busy for 30 years. They have a different thing about them. I don't think
Starting point is 00:52:16 there's anything wrong with that. Marriages are all different. They come in different shapes and sizes. But Sam's marriage to Brittany, I think, started out in the wrong way. And now I think he's going to pocket some money and go away. And then you're right. Then we're going to see a complete breakdown and who then takes care of her. Don't forget, I've also broke a lot of stories about her business manager, Lou Taylor. You keep your eye on that name because she also does a lot of work with the kardashians um there's a lot of talk about her and her husband owning churches that they siphon so much money from britney tens of millions of dollars over the years yeah they don't really much but she's lurking there in the background lou taylor oh my that's now when you get your
Starting point is 00:53:07 stories i i had an experience with tmz once that sort of um put in into focus how ubiquitous they and their sources are i was uh doing an episode of the insider remember when uh entertainment tonight had the insider and uh that at that point they were attacking uh gary coleman for being a wife abuser and all this stuff i said no the guy's not there's something wrong something's not something's wrong with him well it turned out kids had you know renal failure since he was like a kid child and had missed his dialysis for months he was in acidosis he had calcium was zero is ridiculous he was. So he came in the set. They started yelling at him. He got upset and had a seizure.
Starting point is 00:53:47 And he had a seizure in the seat of the insider. And I jumped in and grabbed him and took him to sort of a bench on the side of the room. And I resuscitated him, and he was fine. But before the paramedics got there and before his seizure had stopped everybody around me's pager went off and looked they said out people said out loud we hear there's been a c gary coleman's had a seizure on the set of the insider tmz wants comment can you believe that they have people everywhere a minute and a half harvey's done a great job Harvey's done a great job.
Starting point is 00:54:25 He's done a great job. I mean, he's got people everywhere. They get paid. And I'm not in favor of them giving information about people in hospitals. That's a rule you shouldn't break. But, you know, there's always somebody who wants to talk, Drew. And if you get enough sources in your life, you'll find the person. Well, and, AJ, I think, you'll find the person well and AJ I think
Starting point is 00:54:46 you know the people that aren't going to talk are the nurses and doctors and administrators but there's somebody there just you know doesn't have the same ethical obligations and happens to see something you know they get it
Starting point is 00:55:01 there's plenty of people who go I'm going to leave this job in a month i don't care i don't care if i can get 500 bucks from tmz or from a tabloid i'm going to give some information out i mean people a lot of people like that very different oh boy is that true so i i got a quote on a question on uh twitter is this from the twitter spaces uh robin is asking are you aware aware of the CIA's influence in Hollywood? She has got a long quote here. Are you aware of what's going on that way?
Starting point is 00:55:36 Not particularly. I can't say I know a deep root cause about that. I'm not sure. There are a lot of people who have opinions about Hollywood, and there are people who think that they eat babies, and they want to, what's it called, adrenochrome. I don't go with those theories. But I know, having been at the top of that game, and then been in Hollywood, I do know that you can get anything done in Hollywood. And I wouldn't be surprised if the CIA is involved in some way with certain people at all.
Starting point is 00:56:08 I mean, there are private eyes. There are lawyers that are involved with things. I mean, what's his name? Anthony Pelicano. There are so many people who traverse through Hollywood who just put their money footprints through it. Yeah, I wouldn't doubt if the CIA was ever called in to do something at all. I mean, as it is now,
Starting point is 00:56:27 we send all our scripts to China so they can read them first and make sure we're not going to make fun of their country. We're, we're selling out all over the place. And by the same token, we have the sort of mainstream press. So-called seems to be not interested in speaking truth to power that seems to be the opposite of what they're interested in these days i wonder where that came from it's
Starting point is 00:56:52 almost the same people that used to be so interested in in fact the same people that hated the cia hated the fbi were you know had no particular interest in the CDC and were interested in holding the leader's feet to the fire. Now we're doing the exact opposite. And it's hard for me to understand. It's not journalism anymore. I went into it in the early 80s because I wanted to shine a light in the dark places and find out who was corrupting people
Starting point is 00:57:23 and what organizations. I just wanted to find all of it out. And when you get involved deep in Hollywood and you meet the Weinsteins and the Leslie Moonveses and all these guys, you start to get a picture of how it all works. And it's an ugly place where a lot of people make a lot of money and go through a lot of bad things to make that money. And I think they're just so turned on by the almighty dollar. You know, they got to heat their pools within their pools. They've got to get their three range rovers running. They, I mean, it's, it's a very wild lifestyle. Once you're at that 10, 15, 20 million,
Starting point is 00:58:01 a hundred million dollar mark, everybody's doing something shady everybody do you just think that that that that the politics has become the modern version of what that was it seems like that's not quite i don't know maybe that hasn't cleaned up at all i don't know but it feels like that in terms of adulteration i mean that's what rfk jr is talking about he's saying that we've been captured by moneyed influences all the way up and down the government uh organization at every stage i told him that i thought i had galman amnesia which is that you you learn about one thing and then you figure it doesn't apply to everything else but he said no i said you know look you taught me about the capture of pharmaceuticals and the regulatory agencies
Starting point is 00:58:49 and the fda and whatnot that's too cozy i don't like that he goes same thing everywhere everywhere every agency captured and and and you're sort of starting to hear stories about it here and there in the press and yet no journalistic follow-on that i can see and and this is also mysterious to me and are we going to get in trouble for bringing it up it feels like that kind of country now no no you've got to bring it up you got to hold these people accountable you know like for instance i'll just i'll break the jamie fox story which i know is true and i'll say to my audience how can no other writer glom off that story and investigate further? How can no, I know having done this for 30 years, there were sources everywhere.
Starting point is 00:59:33 People know this story. They're just not going to report it out of fear for the people at Pfizer or wherever the hell the vaccination was. Maybe their company's doing business with them. I don't know. But it's all from the top down, like the old saying, the fish stinks from the head down. Politics is combined with Hollywood, our belief system, the way culture is, the woke movement. It's all a mess.
Starting point is 01:00:02 And if you can find the truth once in a while out of all that stuff god bless you right that that is what i'm interested in is the truth so so back to jamie he's one of my very very famous performers i mean uh oh me too me too he really is just so brilliant i mean it's just ridiculous how talented that is so what is what do you know, you've said there's been a stroke, there's been brain injury. What is the nature of the disability now? Do you know? The last I heard was partial paralysis and some blindness. I don't know. Uh, you know, the person I talked to is not in the room every day. He went that one time. I was grateful to get that information. I don't know what's happening since then, but all we can surmise is the longer he stays in that facility, the bigger the problem was.
Starting point is 01:00:50 And let's be honest, he's not playing football. He's not going to host a new Shazam show. All that's being done behind the scenes. But Hollywood is a special place where they will never let you know. They're very guarded about their big stars. They don't want you to know that anything is fatal because God forbid, Jamie, don't get to work again.
Starting point is 01:01:13 You've got to always keep them propped up and he's got very big people behind him. He's not going to ever cop to exactly what went wrong. Maybe a year from now, if he pulls through knock wood, he'll tell the whole story. But that's where it's going to come from. He will pull through. I promise you he will pull
Starting point is 01:01:30 through. I guarantee it. I think so. I guarantee it. I guarantee it. But what were those videos I saw with him going, hey, thanks for worrying about me and I appreciate the prayers and stuff. Was that a some sort of... I didn't see a video of him. I don't... Yeah, it could have been because I don't... I didn't see a video. Was that a, you know, some sort of AI generated thing?
Starting point is 01:01:49 Yeah, it could have been because I didn't see a video. I saw an Instagram message, but not a video. But if he did do that, we all know, my God, nowadays they can make anybody look like anybody and say anything. It's a scary time. AI, AI Jamie Foxx. anything it's a it's a it's a scary time ai ai jamie foxx and so yeah so it just says still still hospitalized when you go to youtube um and so when you when you so a normal person after an event like that would stay maybe a week in the hospital maybe uh and then you'd go to two weeks of rehab and then you'd go uh you know do outpatient rehab after that the the the inpatient
Starting point is 01:02:27 continued structured inpatient you know and by the way people see the word rehab and they assume that's chemical dependency treatment or psychiatric treatment it is not it is physical rehab stroke rehab which is what the term rehab originally applied to and really just strictly does apply to uh and he you know I I'm I'm guessing he wants to be walking that's what I'm guessing is sort of in the books here and and depending on how large if it was something of what's called the middle cerebral artery you know hopefully it didn't go on the right side of the body because then his speech will be out too that's kind of what happened to fetterman so yeah and that would be very very rough so what do you know about what what do you know about celine dion she canceled her world tour she has this stiff
Starting point is 01:03:18 man syndrome whatever it might be stiff syndrome i think she's had it for a very long time i think she just kept it on the wraps. There's a similar thing happening with Shania Twain, who looks unrecognizable. I mean, looks gaunt, lost a ton of weight. No one knows that that's Shania anymore. There's a lot of celebrities now who are embracing illnesses. I know Celine has an illness, but there are also others who just want to hop on the bandwagon of,
Starting point is 01:03:48 I have an illness too. I have a mental illness. I have Lyme disease. I have bipolar. I've never seen so many people throw themselves on the fire and talk about their illnesses than I've ever in my life seen.
Starting point is 01:04:00 What's that about? Well, it's the fact that we've sort of done that it's that world you know where our medical selves and our biological beings are sort of we've been exposing that for a long time that's why i find it odd when people hide what's going on or pretend that they are pulling the wool over our eyes when they give us an incomplete story i for instance have immense immense respect for christina applegate oh my god what she's dealing with oh for christ's sake that poor woman i mean i i just she is the kindest nicest most talented and i was watching her on uh you're dead to me and i thought oh what they're doing to her the steroids oh my god and uh and it's just And now she can't work.
Starting point is 01:04:45 She still looks pretty good, though. Listen, I'm not saying she doesn't look good. I'm saying I can see what was happening. I don't look like I used to when I was 20. You're missing my point. Doc, how did Selma Blair get on Dancing with the Stars? What did they pump into her
Starting point is 01:05:01 with her MS? That was amazing. Right. So some MS. No, that's right. There's different qualities to MS where it's relapsing, remitting, it's progressive, it's rapidly progressive. Christina seems to have a rapidly progressive variant, which is just horrible, you guys. And then Michael J. Fox. I mean, he's been, by the way, so look, you're talking about talking about medical reality. I actually had a problem with the way he used to talk about it because it was clear to me he was in moderate amounts of denial about his condition.
Starting point is 01:05:33 And now he's talking about it much more forthcomingly and much more honestly. It's more of a thing now. And then think about all these people. So how about what Bruce Willis? Bruce Willis. I mean, sad. These neurologic diseases are terrible. about all these people so so how about uh what bruce willis bruce willis i mean and then sad these neurologic diseases are terrible and and how much of this is post-covid or post-vaccine we have no idea and we should be discussing it should be a hot topic yeah we don't know
Starting point is 01:05:56 or did the covid accelerate did that accelerate bruce's decline or something. We don't know. No one will ever know. We're not going to know. They put Brutus Willis on sound stages for the last two or three years and put listening devices in his ear, cue cards up, anything to make money overseas with his face on the cover of a movie. What a shame. I mean, look, the guy was making money, but what a shame. What a shame, but that's different than, say, what they did to Marilyn Monroe, who they would literally shoot her with Demerol, put her in some like it hot. Apparently, they had a doctor with a syringe going 24-7,
Starting point is 01:06:36 and her lines were in the drawers and on the walls when she would be moving around the rooms. And it was like, is the and that that's disgusting that's the history of this stuff and that's what they have to kind of you know sort of make right by being much more open about these things more realistic and interestingly addiction is the one place we do talk about it more openly which is kind of odd that's where we and they used to be so shameful you know yeah so anyway well i i uh i i think there's i i suspect that some of this you tell me if this is true aj that some of the reason that we're seeing so much medical illness in so many performers and celebrities is that because of nutrition and dental work and injectables and and botox people are working into a much later age like really working actively
Starting point is 01:07:37 as they had when they were in their 40s well into their 60s now and when you get people into that 60 70 80 year j group shit goes down man shit goes down and i have a feeling that may be why shit is going down also i don't know if you heard michael j fox also said he thinks that his his version of uh parkinson's may have had something to do with some drugs he was doing which was my that was my call from the beginning that was my call was it because. That was my call. Was it? Because I never, I never pictured Michael J. Fox to be that much of a drug addict. I think he like had some fun for a few.
Starting point is 01:08:10 He's not. He's not. He is not. He was messing around, got, messing around, got the wrong thing. It could happen. I mean, nowadays, yeah. I mean, I don't, he was never looked upon as a druggie
Starting point is 01:08:23 when he worked. He's not. Yeah, you could be right, I don't, he was never looked upon as a druggie when he worked. He's not. Yeah, you could be right. I don't know where this stuff happens. Look, today, AJ, today, non-addict that are messing around, die of fentanyl overdose. So this stuff can happen just messing around. Yeah, you can't get a pill from anybody at a party or anywhere. No more.
Starting point is 01:08:43 It's over. Oh, no. You can't do it.'t very dangerous that's done so i'm looking at our uh our uh twitter spaces here and i my physician friend yeah you better use it now that i got it working okay my physician friend dropped off he didn't have the patience for us uh but anyone else that wants to raise their hand you just yeah well i wanted to put this quote up on screen because you guys had mentioned fran drescher earlier and i had i had no idea that she had been fighting the vaccine mandates as president oh yeah i had no idea it seemed like that whole story was suppressed she's a very major personality never heard any of this at all in the news so aj you tell me if i'm right
Starting point is 01:09:20 you tell me if i'm right when she was running running for president of SAG, I thought, Oh boy, I'm not sure this is going to go okay. She took the reins of that thing and has been a brilliant leader. Her communication is second to none. She has been, she's been a fantastic president and she took on these idiots and their excesses. And finally, I believe that's why it came. It would have gone on another year or two if she weren't there at the helm.
Starting point is 01:09:47 Yeah, you're exactly right. They got a firebrand in her. I don't think they realized that she was that kind of woman. I mean, I always knew she's that kind of woman. But God bless her for doing what she's doing and standing up to this nonsense. But again, you know, Caleb's right. Where are the other periodicals taking this story and blowing it up where are the political prize winners during me too where's ronan farrow the
Starting point is 01:10:12 greatest reporter of all time where'd they go bunch of nonsense yeah what happened to him what's going on with where's he been greatest reporter of all time but no My hope is that he's investigating all of this for a big report. That's my hope. I'm keeping my dream alive. I want you to find out for us. I'm going to rely on you, AJ, to figure that out. Tell me where he is because he should be – if he's not quietly – Here's the thing about being a journalist.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Here's the thing about being a journalist. We both were brought up by the same guy. We had the rabbi if you will in journalism in new york guy named richie esposito a great guy great journalist and um thing about ronan is during his time as a journalist and he's great and he knows his stuff but smart good he's hollywood gay, dating Obama speechwriter. Every female who was harassed sexually felt very comfortable talking to him. So all he did was sit back and get phone calls. That's not real hard work to do. But God bless him.
Starting point is 01:11:17 I don't know, AJ. You sound a little jealous. You sound a little jealous there. No, no, no. I report a lot of stuff too. But I always said, Drew, at the end of the day, if you could print a list of credits at the end of your gossip column of all the people who gave you tips and stories and helped you along the way,
Starting point is 01:11:36 it'd be about 30 names a day. So it's not only the reporter. It's the people you know that help you and give you the story. Interesting. There's nothing better than waking up and someone has a story for you all right we're going to try to take a couple calls off twitter spaces caleb put up the cartoon so people can see you push the microphone the lower left hand corner and then once i call you up uh then you also have to unmute yourself once you get to the podium and in doing so you are streaming out of multiple platforms we're going to russia it turns out i'm just finding out rumble twitter twitch youtube everywhere uh this is a nick out of china wanted
Starting point is 01:12:11 it their way oh they would block us yeah crappy parts from amazon we we did try to broadcast in china and they shut down all of dr drew profiles within 24 hours. Wow. Yeah, I tried that about a year ago. You're also banned in Bali. Oh, you're banned in Bali? Well, they don't like the sexual stuff, too. Oh, yes. Weird. Oh, they don't? Really? There you go, Nick. What's going on?
Starting point is 01:12:36 It's not in Bali. It's against the law. Hey there. I called out Robert Kennedy in the comments here. I was hoping maybe he would chime in on this conversation go ahead I'd like to hear his perspective you know agree because I think I suspect that I have you know I know for sure I have at least one but possibly three injured family members yeah it's it's not uncommon my
Starting point is 01:13:01 friend I like like I said we're to be speaking on Thursday, Caleb, is that right? To, uh, Romuald Gendra, who was one of the early researchers in long COVID and a friend of mine who's a, I don't know if he's going to be, um, anonymous or not, but he's a very prominent professional and he has had his knees out from under him for almost a year. He's not been able to, been difficult to function for most of the year that's terrible and uh people need to hear what these things are and his case was definitely not coveted because he took the vaccine and then whammy we'll hear the whole story on thursday is anything else there nick oh no that that was all all right thank you for bringing rfk in here perhaps that would be nice to have him. I don't see him.
Starting point is 01:13:46 He might be busy, Susan. That's true. He could be a little bit busy. Let me bring Josh up. He's probably busy. Hi, Josh. What's going on? Hey, man.
Starting point is 01:13:58 Not much. I wanted to follow up with the RFK thing because at the end of the conversation you had with him, he was talking about personal change, like personal transformation. And when you think of like Britney Spears, and all of this stuff that's going on mental and physical health, I want to look at look at it through sort of an optimistic lens, which is there could be a lot of change happening. Not all negative. I mean, from my point of view, Britney Spears has changed a lot. She seems in some way more human, like all of us, when before she was not. So, you know, even in that case, I think there are ways to get better. And I wanted to know, I mean, you obviously deal with addictions and stuff. That's a transformation. I feel like there could be physical and mental transformations that are going on among all of us.
Starting point is 01:14:51 Yes. And we need to keep those seeds of change going. And it can be very tough to keep going. Oh, yes. Josh, I applaud you. I wish I could dance like her, though, on camera. But I think what Josh is pointing at, and I'm going to let AJ comment, but she doesn't have a career and she's not in Las Vegas. She's just a girl in front of the camera on Instagram, on TikTok.
Starting point is 01:15:15 And she doesn't have the psychotic features right now, really. They're not active anyway. And it's just so, yeah, I agree with Josh. And terms of change always can be changed but things can get really shitty before they do and we have to watch that aj what do you say i disagree with josh i've never seen britney look more insane uh the the three-day-old makeup the natty hair extensions the clothes from 2003 the spinning constantly this is uh such a shout out for help i've never seen anything like it and i think she's stuck let me just say she is in 2005 yeah you know yeah that's sad i agree
Starting point is 01:15:56 i agree with that uh but but in terms of shouting for help doesn't really work like that in fact you know she has gone public with uh she went to an excellent program and spent like four months there and got top-notch care and now look back on that and says they were nazis they had me you know shackled they were terrible they abused me it's like i get it's one of the good things about you know working around high quality professionals you you you know certain things just didn't happen, and you do know that people's brains can distort things really easily, particularly with these kinds of illnesses.
Starting point is 01:16:31 So in terms of her wanting help, I don't think so. I don't think she wants help, and that will be the problem. And that's the problem with mental illness generally. That's the problem, that you lose insight into what the illness is doing to you. That's a very common feature of serious mental illness and so anosognosia we call that what would you do what would you do if you were the only person visiting her or under under your care what would you tell what would you do with brady jeez i would have to build a team around her somehow uh and i don't
Starting point is 01:17:04 know how you'd get her to comply with that, but you can't do this with one person. You sort of need around her a bunch of people that know how to manage this. And, you know, most people don't recognize the symptoms that are kind of serious coming on. They just think, oh, Brittany, she's so cute. No, no, no, no, no. This is the beginning of serious stuff. We have to adjust the medicines. We have to, you know, i would be all over her medicines i would give her cognitive behavioral therapy to help her identify her symptoms and understand what they are which i'm sure she's had
Starting point is 01:17:35 and then i would build some sort of social something around her so she could do things again she needs to get out in the world somehow but it has to be done in a very very structured way and you know as you you know she gets hassled whenever she goes out and that might trigger some stuff too so i maybe it's as simple as you know having a an outdoor activity or a sport or a park or something i don't know something but it it would take a lot of work and and persistence and the problem with her condition is she'll reject it she'll reject it so if you don't have somebody mandating it it won't last it won't last i think look at michael jackson michael jackson he was you know getting his opiates from the dermatologist uh several doctors went in and said dude this is he's going to kill you this is your deepak chopra went in
Starting point is 01:18:20 there was this it was he was a close friend of Michael Jackson. Dismissed, never allowed to get near him again. Why? Because you say something they don't like, and they have the power to do that. That's one of the big risks of that level of celebrity and money. That's what addicts do. Yeah, of course. Sad to watch.
Starting point is 01:18:41 You know her sister, too. Jamie Lynn Spears is one of the loveliest persons i know i like her husband even just a little bit better jamie sorry her husband's a great guy her kids are great she i mean she's i'm facetious of course but these are these are salt of the earth wonderful people they are only wishing for for uh britney's best i'd please those of you that want to get engaged in what's called the splitting, which is part of the illness, please don't. That's the illness.
Starting point is 01:19:11 Family members care about her. They're trying to do their best. They want the best for her. Believe me. Believe me. Okay. Well, AJ, we've been a wild ride here. We've gone all over the place.
Starting point is 01:19:23 I'm looking at the Twitter spaces. If anybody else wants to ask any questions. I think I've abused your time, and I a wild ride here. We've gone all over the place. I'm looking at the Twitter spaces. If anybody else wants to ask any questions. I think I've abused your time, and I appreciate you being here. It's good to see you and spend a little time with you. We'll have to get together face-to-face one of these days, and you're going to find out for me. What did I want you to find out? What happened to Ronan Farrow?
Starting point is 01:19:41 You're going to break the story on where Ronan Farrell is or what's he working on. I call him Ronan Sinatra for obvious reasons but I'll find out. He's a great writer but been gone since 2017. We need him back. Breaking stories. And he
Starting point is 01:19:59 throws, I don't know if you caught, AJ just dropped a bomb on the way out the door. I don't know if you caught it but uh who ronald farrow is he was a vanity fair writer that really sort of created the me too movement he certainly created weinstein's problems i would say right he he reported on all that and uh and there's you know there's debate about uh paternity and AJ just gave his opinion and you might have missed that well let it sit you know I just I I've been in Nancy's natural house and I've seen pictures of Ronan all over the house you don't generally do that if Ronan Farrow is another man's son but if it's your dad's son, I would imagine pictures would be around the house.
Starting point is 01:20:45 That's all I'll say about that. I have no opinion, but we'll let that bomb sit. Whatever you're going to get from Ronan, I think you made it more complicated now. He knows how I feel. He knows.
Starting point is 01:21:01 He knows how I feel about it. All right, AJ, give him where to go. Where's the Patreon? This is really fun. It is fun. It's give him give him where to go where's the patreon this is really fun it is fun it's interesting yeah tell him where to go uh go to patreon.com slash famous events to go behind my patreon wall or i do one free show week of famous bitch wherever you get your podcast same with politics as a bitch get me on twitter at aj benza email is pope benza at gmail.com you can find me i ain't that hard to find or just call dr drew he'll get ahold of me i'll get him i'll get him when he needs something i'll get him so head him to the hospital all right we got it we got to see each other not
Starting point is 01:21:40 just around acute illness not just around acute illness okay so i was just thinking about josh's comment about go ahead do you want to let aj go and you want to finish that okay aj i'm going to say farewell to you susan wants to make one last comment we'll see you soon my friend take care pal all right buddy thank you uh you were saying i was just thinking about josh's comment how we all they're become we're all becoming like britney and now we're not we're not going to be like yeah well i there's one guy in uh rumble who said who what are you talking about me herb anyways um was it tom cigar we've been sorry times we've been like you know videotaping ourselves and doing little little pieces of of workouts and stuff for sponsors and stuff and sometimes i feel
Starting point is 01:22:25 like that i feel like like we're starting to we're exposing ourselves and we have to we have to think of cute ways to look good but imagine you were 16 you've never had a real job yeah and that's all you're doing all day and there's a team of people coaching you up on it all the time that's your only way of identifying yourself or being, but it's just funny because like, okay, I got to do my hair and makeup and I'm going to dress up in a cute outfit and I'm going to get in front of the camera and see if I can say something witty that's going to draw eyes to me and make me feel good about myself.
Starting point is 01:22:57 And that's what Tik TOK and Instagram and all these things are is, is, you know, us being the actresses or the singers or the performers. And I obviously can't dance like that. I wish I could. I'd have a better Instagram. Well, nobody is. I just do photos.
Starting point is 01:23:13 Like, here's a photo. And yes, there is a filter. While no one has seen yet your performance in these little vignettes, they are enjoying the background. I'm seeing lots of uh freddie freed friedick friedicks okay uh saying uh what are you doing are you gonna wait do you take her take her picture off the real thing's coming no no come over to here i think over this side get rid of her picture caleb we gotta get her there we go which is better real
Starting point is 01:23:42 thing of the picture i think the real thing is there you are. Okay. There's your camera. Here we are. So, all right. It's us. We'll be here. We got a hell of a lineup coming. Again, Caleb, you want to throw that up there for me? We'll see Mahatra in a couple weeks.
Starting point is 01:23:54 We have Pierre Corey with Kelly Victory tomorrow. We have the vaccine injured and Ram Yogendra on Thursday. We have Michelle Bachman and Brian O'Shea. Want to describe why you put those two together, Susan? Brian O'Shea and Michelle Bachman. That is an Emily question. Okay. Michelle Bachman is a former congresswoman.
Starting point is 01:24:18 Yes, we're aware. But Brian is a... No, he wanted her. Brian wanted to be on with her. He knows her. Okay. He did a big Twitter spaces and it was really... And Brian is very focused on China, right?
Starting point is 01:24:30 Yes. Yeah. And so that Susan is very interested in what Brian has to say. And seeing Malhotra and then we're bringing Tom Ritz back again to talk more about how the Peter Daszak, I guess the name is, and the EcoHealth Alliance may be a counter-espionage operation, which is the only thing I can make sense of what we did there in terms of funding all that stuff. So we'll see how that fits together. And until tomorrow, 3 o'clock Pacific time, I will say see you then. Ta-ta.
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