Ask Dr. Drew - Jamie Lissow (Gutfeld Show) on Hunter Moore Docuseries, Alcohol & Daddy Daughter Trip – Ask Dr. Drew – Episode 109

Episode Date: August 12, 2022

Jamie Lissow discusses Dr. Drew's part in Netflix's hit "The Most Hated Man On The Internet" docuseries about Hunter Moore & IsAnyoneUp, Jamie's appearances on Gutfeld! on Fox, his comedy tour, alcoho...l addiction, Daddy Daughter Trip, his work with Rob Schneider, and also answers questions from callers. Actor and comedian Jamie Lissow is a regular guest on the #1 late night comedy show on television, Gutfeld! on Fox. He is best known for his role in the current Netflix Original Series “Real Rob” alongside SNL alum Rob Schneider: a show Jamie co-wrote and co-produced. Jamie has appeared on The Tonight Show, The Late Late Show, Last Comic Standing, Gotham Live, Star Search, and his own half hour Comedy Central special. Find more from Jamie at JamieLissow.com (or RobSchneidersFriend.com) and follow him at https://twitter.com/jamie_lissow. Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (http://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. SPONSORED BY • GENUCEL - Using a proprietary base formulated by a pharmacist, Genucel has created skincare that can dramatically improve the appearance of facial redness and under-eye puffiness. Genucel uses clinical levels of botanical extracts in their cruelty-free, natural, made-in-the-USA line of products. Get 10% off with promo code DREW at https://genucel.com/drew GEAR PROVIDED BY • BLUE MICS - After more than 30 years in broadcasting, Dr. Drew's iconic voice has reached pristine clarity through Blue Microphones. But you don't need a fancy studio to sound great with Blue's lineup: ranging from high-quality USB mics like the Yeti, to studio-grade XLR mics like Dr. Drew's Blueberry. Find your best sound at https://drdrew.com/blue • ELGATO - Every week, Dr. Drew broadcasts live shows from his home studio under soft, clean lighting from Elgato's Key Lights. From the control room, the producers manage Dr. Drew's streams with a Stream Deck XL, and ingest HD video with a Camlink 4K. Add a professional touch to your streams or Zoom calls with Elgato. See how Elgato's lights transformed Dr. Drew's set: https://drdrew.com/sponsors/elgato/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The guest is Jamie Lysso. He's a regular guest on the number one late-night comedy show, Greg Gutfeld on Fox. He is best known, well, not best known, but he is also known for the Netflix original Real Rob with my friend Rob Schneider. You've heard on this show before. And he is headlining all over the place. He's been on multiple television shows, including Tonight Show, Late Late Show, Last Comic Standing, Gotham Live, etc. And he's got a stand-up gig coming up on August 5th and 6th. That's, I believe, this weekend. Yes, at the Comedy Zone in Greenville, South Carolina. So you can see him there from the lovely town of Greenville. And we'll be taking your calls. He and I will be chatting it up. We've got a lot to get into today. And yeah, he's got a new movie coming up with Don Cleese and Rob Schneider called Daddy Daughter.
Starting point is 00:00:45 We want to hear about that. And again, if you have calls, we'll see the call. I'll see you over on Twitter spaces and we'll take calls there. Let's get to it. Our laws as it pertained to substances are draconian and bizarre. The psychopath started this. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction, fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:01:09 I'm a doctor for f***'s sake. Where the hell do you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals. Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Loveline all the time. Educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat. If you have trouble, you can't stop and you want help stopping, I can help. I got a lot to say. I got a lot more to treat. If you have trouble, you can't stop and you want to help stop it, I can help. I got a lot to say. I got a lot more to say.
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Starting point is 00:02:39 I'll bring my guest in, Jamie Lysso, in just a second. You can follow Jamie. I'll have him give the website his instagram is at i am jamie lisso l-i-s-s-o-w and also twitter jamie underscore lissa lissa and the jamie is j-a-m-i-e and uh i was just thinking we were watching that intro that uh caleb had to sit through a whole bunch of footage on my hlm program and and life changers too i i can see in there, but the, the, but I started thinking, Caleb was very impressed that I'm on that show, the most hated man on the internet. I sort of came on them in the middle of the second episode, but I'm, I'm wondering, um, you sat through a lot of footage of that show. Uh, did you come
Starting point is 00:03:20 away with any impression of that show? Which one? The HLN show? The HLN show. Because it went through all these different incarnations. First, I was at a desk. Then I was standing in front of that big screen that you'll see on Most Hated Man on the Internet. And then I go to sort of a stage. And then we bring an audience in. We had multiple incarnations.
Starting point is 00:03:42 And did you sit through all that? Did you see all those different versions of the show? Oh, yeah i because i remember the first time that i was actually on the show it was whenever everybody was in like in boxes and so you just had satellite satellite boxes satellite boxes and then it changed and then it changed again to just dr drew it wasn't even dr drew on call anymore and you had the full audience and oh yeah it was interesting it was it was i i i got what was your favorite version oh i liked the boxes but that's just me my selfishly i loved being in the box and in that that soundproof room and just ready to go on camera yeah i get it and you were you were i interrupt you start to say you got the feeling that i got the feeling that it was literally
Starting point is 00:04:21 they didn't care what it was as long as we get Dr. Drew in any format at all to talk, like what you're doing here. They just get your opinions to hear from something you're saying, and we're just going to change the format and keep you. They care. They had an excellent, remember Bert, excellent producer. I'm sure you talked to Bert while you were here. Yeah. And we were, they were, I mean, if you don't think they care about ratings over there, think again. And so that's what they did also gave us the freedom to experiment with stuff. That's what I meant. Not that they didn't care about ratings.
Starting point is 00:04:53 It's just that we're just going to do anything, you know, to get Drew on the screen here. It was pretty much the same show across it. Yeah, I think the boxes, because I kept saying kept saying you know i'm strongest when i'm looking at the camera and so are my guests and so we kind of invented the box thing and then cnn stole it so anderson cooper started doing it because that the box lineup we would we would have you remember we'd have six boxes oh i remember six of them up there yeah and i'd have to manage all that and then then they we got kicked out of that studio for some construction or something and so we were
Starting point is 00:05:30 stuck with the boxes and then we got in with the audience and seven people like the audience thing was good if we had kept doing that that would that would have been a thing because we could really talk to a lot of regular people who were in the audience it really had a nice flow to it but too expensive and blah blah blah so if anyone has then they fired everybody to hln then they oh go ahead if anyone hasn't seen it you got to go watch the most hated man on the internet on netflix i started watching it a few nights ago and i didn't even realize that you were in it and you were a big part of the whole story so i text you you're in episode one without even realizing that you're almost like one of the no you were in episode one also that's where i first saw you i didn't see i didn't see that i
Starting point is 00:06:09 didn't see that i really look at it i just i missed that episode two though was your bigger feature that was where it's like they really brought up this guy and he was on stage with you and then you brought the mom from the story on screen to just berate him in front of the whole world. And I thought justice, Drew is part of this justice. It was amazing. So can I talk about our attempt at a relationship with Charlotte Laws? Oh, yeah. Turn those cards over? Yeah. So Caleb is actively pursuing Charlotte Laws, who was the mom and the journalist that went after this guy and eventually got him put away, with still no remorse, however. I thought it was interesting
Starting point is 00:06:46 that when he was in a halfway house, he had to get some coaching on reintegrating with the world. Interesting. But in any event, we are reaching out to Charlotte Laws. Please let her know if you see her on Twitter or anywhere else
Starting point is 00:06:57 that we are interested in interviewing her and sort of getting an update. We'll bring her onto this program as soon as whatever's convenient for her. But another host, talk show host host that was featured on the first episode of The Most Hated Man in America was the great Greg Gutfeld back when he was on Red Eye, which I used to do all the time. And then they invented the Saturday night show, which was for, I guess, two or three people on a couch and then Kat and Tyrus across from Greg at a desk.
Starting point is 00:07:28 And I kept going in there going, Joan, this is a five-night-a-week show. It's getting ridiculous ratings on Saturday night. You should put it on five nights a week. And that's exactly what they did. And along the way, they discovered people, including my next guest, Jamie Lisso, regular on that show i knew him from rob schneider and uh let's bring jamie up here i'm going to tell a story real quick i think i've mentioned to him more than once jamie welcome to the program hi dr drew good to see you good to
Starting point is 00:07:57 see you too you're in new york waiting to uh do the gutfeld show yes i am and i also loved you on the most hated man on the internet i clicked on it just to make sure it wasn't me and i enjoyed the program so so uh i i think the first time you were on gutfeld i called our mutual friend rob scheider and i said rob first of all I didn't know that guy's name was actually Jamie. You called him Jamie on real Rob. And I thought that was just the character name. And he goes, yeah, he's sitting right next to me. I didn't know where you guys were going, but where were you guys off to? Do I think we were in the middle of Colorado, but imagine how surreal that is. I don't know if I'm sure I've told you this, but I've been a Dr.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Drew fan for forever, love line, everything. And i'm driving rob schneider in this car and dr drew calls and says have you seen this guy you know have you seen jamie on gutfeld he's hilarious and i go oh my god i get to hear it was such a cool you know you never know if someone's being serious to your face or not but you didn't even know i was there so i was like like, this is a real compliment. Yeah, I try to be. Hang on, I've got a technical problem right now. My link to the, I'm sorry, Twitter spaces, my link is screwed up here. So let me figure out why.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Sorry, everybody. Sorry, Jamie. Right in the middle of, here's where your compliment goes off the rail. Okay, well. Here's where your compliment goes off the rail is I have to do something. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Can you be funny? Be funny. I can tell you a really short story about how I got on the real Rob Netflix show. It's so wild. So Rob Schneider wrote, produced, directed this television show. And I was one of the writers. So I was at his house and I was writing the show. I was not in it.
Starting point is 00:09:39 I was just a writer. So we were about to film. We're going to be filming like the next Monday. And the guy that was supposed to play Rob's assistant, this person was in a writer. So we were about to film. We're going to be filming like the next Monday. And the guy that was supposed to play Rob's assistant, this person was in every episode, big role. He bowed on us. He calls up. He got a movie.
Starting point is 00:09:55 We lose this actor to this movie. And Rob and his wife are sitting at the table. And I swear, Rob's like, oh, my God, who are we going to get to play my assistant? As he's saying it, I'm serving him tea. I'm literally bringing, he looks up and he goes, dude, why don't you read for this part? And I go read for the poker. And I sit down at his kitchen table.
Starting point is 00:10:19 I read a couple of scenes and he goes, change the guy's name to Jamie. You're in the show. I was like, okay. Amazing. Rob has got good instincts you know he really wait did you fix your problem i'm so sorry at uh twitter spaces that was my mistake what'd you do the the the adapter and the everything going in was all over the place it was like it reminded me of the the uh the the the the scarecrow when the witch pulled all the straw out of him. That's what I felt like I was trying to put the scarecrow back together. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:10:50 So everything was all over the fucking place. Oh, my God. So I apologize. I apologize. All right. So now we're going to have to take questions from somebody over there. Well, I will. I promise.
Starting point is 00:10:59 I'll get to you guys. I promise. But there's another comical story i think i told you because i told rob is rob has really one of the best senses of humor as anybody i know and he likes nothing more than self-deprecating humor right he he loves giving him his own i mean he's got he can be serious at times but he likes it when he's he's shit is slung his way and uh we're watching the first show and i and i susan i sit and i go susan they let's get let's get to the end let's get i gotta see who the casting director is because they overcasted the wife i no one's gonna buy this and i get to the
Starting point is 00:11:38 end and i who's the casting director patricia patricia schneider is the casting director his wife casted that woman as his wife for the show and i'm like what's what's that woman's name like oh shit it's his wife it's his actual so i told both of them i told both of them i'm like no no one would buy this way overcast come on guys stop it and uh and they both let in in this to their their benefit you know to hats off to them they both laughed their asses off at that and but nobody harder than than than rob rob actually considered it a compliment i think yes so yeah right and so there you go that was my other real rob story and i really really liked that show i thought it was very well done the music
Starting point is 00:12:24 was exceptional i don't know who made those music I thought it was very well done. The music was exceptional. I don't know who made those music selections, but it was amazing. You were amazing. He was funny. I mean, it was just, it was well-written. I don't think I missed an episode in real time, you know, as they were coming out. It's very surreal for me. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:12:39 That was the best job I ever had. It was just very surreal because I got the role last minute. So I didn't even have a chance to be nervous. And then I remember we're like writing this one scene and I think it's season two, episode four, I believe. It's called VIP Treatment. And we're trying to think of an ending. And I was like, oh, it was about how Rob gets special treatment because he's famous.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Like it was five minutes to 5 p.m. once. And we went to the DMV and left like with a license and it closed it i was like this is crazy and i go wouldn't it be funny if like at the end of this episode someone more famous than you like gets to go in front of you in a line i go what about like david spader suddenly and then rob just calls david and then two months later we're filming with right now it's so surreal like i should have gone yeah you don't realize yeah i i've gotten to know all those guys over the years and uh they're they're friends not just friends they're good friends i mean he could have you know i'm sure what was in his head was
Starting point is 00:13:37 god i wonder if i get sandler to do it he's probably too busy you know what i mean i'm sure that was where he was thinking and and had he not been as busy as he always is, I'm sure he would have done it. These guys do stuff for each other all the time. Yep. Sandler does show up a short part in season two. He has a little thing. It was great.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Norm MacDonald, one of the last things Norm did was real rough. It was amazing. Did you get to know him? A little bit he uh it was similar to the you calling rob story i called rob's trailer once and he goes i'm here with norm mcdonald i was like oh my god i love norm mcdonald and norm and him were watching real rob and norm said some really nice things. Isn't that funny? I didn't know him like that well. It is kind of a weird small world. I knew him from a couple of sources.
Starting point is 00:14:32 He used to come on my radio show way back. And he toured with Fred Stoller, who is a friend of ours. And Fred would open for him for a long time. And when they'd come locally here, I'd go see them and sit in the green room with him. And, you know, he's never – oh, also I remember I just – I'm having flashbacks. I played on a baseball team with him once
Starting point is 00:14:54 where he and I were warming the bench pretty good at the end of the game. And he just sat there making fun of everybody. And he's never – he was never not Norm. He was just, that is Norm. That's who he is. And I still wonder what happened. I have great, it's all very odd. This idea of the chronic lymphocytic leukemia
Starting point is 00:15:18 doesn't work for me. I mean, I'm sure if they say he had that, I have no reason to doubt it. But that doesn't usually take people all of a sudden like that. Something very strange going on there, but whatever. I mean, I, unfortunately I have a medical mind and I started thinking about stuff. So, uh, tell me about Greenville, South Carolina. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:38 So this weekend I'll be performing at the comedy zone in Greenville, South Carolina. Uh, ever since I've been on Gutfeld, it's been absolute madness. I've been doing stand-up comedy for 25 years. I did The Tonight Show in 2001. That's how long I've been doing this. And only recently has it started to get a little bit crazy, and it's pretty much all due to this big audience that Gutfeld has, you know? And, you know, I was Rob Schneider's opener for many, many years, as you might know.
Starting point is 00:16:10 And, like, I do feel weird, though, Dr. Drew, that, like, you know, I'm on Rob's show and I talk about him a lot. And, like, I just don't want people to think all I do is ride off the success of Rob Schneider. And, like, it's a lot of what I do. But I have other stuff that i do totally on my own if you guys want to know about that stuff totally separate you can check out my website it's rob schneider's friend.com and then and then you have a and then you have a uh a movie coming out with rob schneider right yeah tell me about that. You know, um, you know, the phrase you shouldn't meet your hero, you know, people say you shouldn't meet your heroes. Uh, I feel like
Starting point is 00:16:53 it should be your heroes unless it's John Cleese or Rob Schneider that Cleese was my hero. And, um, it was one of those things, you know, how you have differences of opinion as far as comedy or music with your parents? I had like a differing opinion with my dad as to what was funny and whatever. And I remember Monty Python was the first time I go, oh, we're both laughing at that. Like it was like a real agreement. And I got to have dinner with John Cleese and tell him that story. And he pretended he cared about it.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Like I think he liked hearing it. And then, yeah i gotta do i gotta do a couple scenes with john cleese and he's just he's everything you would ever want him to be if you go oh i want to i want to when i meet john cleese i want him to be like this that's what he's like he's just a sweetheart has a hilarious story about a movie yeah he there there's a yeah did you see the monty python documentary that's out there i think it's on i think it's on like amazon prime and and they sort of paint him to be what's that was that you no uh they sort of paint him to be kind of the reason that the the whole thing fell apart and uh
Starting point is 00:18:02 and yeah and it was sort of weird because he he's he's my pick in the in the group too i just thought he was just beyond brilliant and has continued to be beyond brilliant everything he's done right and so i i don't know quite i'm glad to hear that whatever that was was maybe really because things were not going well you know one of the guys got severely drug addicted i forget which one that was and And there's a lot of shit going on. It was during the Life of Brian, I think. Or what's the one they made a musical out of? Spamalot.
Starting point is 00:18:31 It was that one. Is that Life of Brian? That is the other one. Holy Grail. Holy Grail. Yeah, Monty Python and Holy Grail. Yeah, that's an interesting story. And so you're with John Cleese.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Thank God he's still up and active. He's an older, he's like a lot older now, right? Like 85 or something. Yeah. He's gotta be eighties, but I mean,
Starting point is 00:18:53 he is sharp, knew his lines, knew, I mean, he was, he was, he was a 10 out of 10 for common. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Good for him. So, um, you live in Alaska. Is that correct yeah that's right all right so the reason i asked it in that manner is it it feels like to me i've been up there only once but it felt like everybody i met there had a story like there was a reason they were living in Alaska or they, or there was a reason that their parents ran away to Alaska and that's why they were in Alaska. So what's your story? So my story is I went up there to do a comedy show 20 years ago and it was in Fairbanks,
Starting point is 00:19:43 Alaska, and there's no comedy clubs. There's no theaters. They just have, there'll be like a bar with a stage. And I meet, you know, I meet the owner of the bar and he's like, you know, like super like intimidating Alaskan guy or whatever. And, um, so this waitress is like, can I get you a drink or something? And I'm kind of nervous because it's like a pretty rowdy crowd. And I see this way, I know something about this waitress. Okay. What's your, what's your wife's story? Why, why is your wife in Alaska? Why, why was she there? Okay. She's there because the, the owner of that bar who was her dad, he got hired. He's a musician. And a long time ago, they were trying to get anybody to come to Alaska and they gave them this awesome gig
Starting point is 00:20:21 at this hotel in Fairbanks for like an extended period of time. And he thought this would be good for the family. And then he, he ended up, yeah, you know, fell in love with it, moved there. And then I followed my wife there and then we got divorced.
Starting point is 00:20:36 So now my kids are there and I just, I try to make it work. You know, I travel a lot, but great place to raise kids. Small town. Is it? It's nice. I travel a lot, but great place to raise kids. Small town. Is it? It's nice.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Yeah. In Fairbanks, though? Yeah, and I mean, it might sound like I'm talking myself into this, because I probably am, but it really is just like a small town, like small classes. Tough kids, too. You go out for recess in the winter. It's 20 below zero or warmer. The kids go outside.
Starting point is 00:21:08 So you got like some tough kids that are independent and self-sufficient. It seems that to me, the other thing that struck me up there is that mammals, all the mammals get huge and the fish, the mammals, the fish are just like land of the giants. And I'm guessing the humans too. Yeah. That happened to me at first. Uh, yeah, there's some, there's some big videos there absolutely yeah a lot of beers things go a lot of like no one's watching we're wearing winter clothes all the time anyway a lot of that type of thing the the other thing that people don't what's true how What's true? How come you don't have a beard? He's on Gutfeld. So the other thing that people don't know about Alaska is everyone has a plane, at least in Anchorage.
Starting point is 00:21:57 They all have these little planes around lakes with essentially like a tool shed next to it. And all the planes either have the pontoons or the big tires where they can land anywhere. And there's thousands of them all over the place, right? Yes, that is correct. There are float planes everywhere. And it's funny. I remember I was flying out. I got hired to do a bunch of – we were going to do a tour of these little cities in Alaska.
Starting point is 00:22:25 And so we got on this plane, and it was going to Anchorage. We were going to start in Anchorage. And it's about an hour flight from Fairbanks. And we get up in the air, and we just immediately are landing. And I go, what are we doing? Like, there's no way we're – and we were delivering mail to a village. They just – Fantastic.
Starting point is 00:22:42 It's fantastic. Yeah. It's it's fantastic. Yeah. It's a wild one. And the other thing is the distances you don't realize are so, so massive. Like you said, Fairbanks to Anchorage. It's not Houston to Dallas or even, you know, New York to South Carolina. It is a good hour flight. And those are closer cities, right?
Starting point is 00:23:11 Those are two closer. I mean, if you're in Juneau, right, it gets worse. It gets worse. Fairbanks, we're in the middle of the state. And I think, you know, when you hear about Alaska Eagle, like I live where it's 24 hours of darkness, you know, when you hear about Alaska Eagle, like I live where it's, um, it's where 24 hours of darkness, you know, and freezing cold and, and, you know, like darkness, look at you depressed. I'm sure there's some, you know, I'm sure there's some legitimate, um, like research on that, but it gets depressing. And I, you know, I call, I call buddies for like, to make me feel better. I go, dude, I'm so depressed. And my friends would go, isn't Alaska beautiful? And I'm like, I don't know. It's fancy. Um, it might be right. How could you appreciate it? That's so funny. Uh, so we're going to go calls in just a minute. Uh, you know, Gutfeld gives you a lot of shit about being divorced. Does your wife, your ex-wife,
Starting point is 00:24:01 uh, figure kindly on that? She's the best drew and i mean that sincerely i did a show in fairbanks alaska last week and her parents ordered it and she ran the uh beverage bar at my show and uh we it's a great situation we we're pretty good co-parents great sense of humor yeah it's all great how old are your kids now i have a 13 year old boy an 11 year old girl and a seven year old boy oh wow so uh 11 years you come back to the mainland or no i think so i think so i'm counting so maybe we're yeah i like it but it's hard man i'm doing new york to alaska probably once every 10 days i'm going all the way there and all the way back and i'm doing new york to alaska probably once every 10 days i'm going all the way there and all the way back and i'm you know i'm like a golden moose on alaska airlines or whatever it's
Starting point is 00:24:50 called but it's still it is a long you're a golden moose congratulations hey we have to also mention please he's gonna be platinum soon yeah we um i have to mention something that happened this week that was sort of we I we just tried to upload on rumble during the for the show today but it it wasn't working I don't know why yeah yeah so I think Caleb stopped the stream over there but anyways he fixed it oh it's back okay yeah I'm only getting a big belly fat oh it's a new link okay anyways if we're back on rumble uh it's just kind of a weird feeling because we also were censored on we got a strike on youtube this week for dr kelly victory and i wanted to do did you know about this yeah oh okay and then caleb bailed us out yeah and
Starting point is 00:25:40 somehow caleb magically got us reinstated I want to know how he did it. What's your technique? Hey, by the way, when I go on the video at Rumble, it says the video is restricted and private. So, yeah, you have to go to it. It's a new link, Drew. So the old one, for some reason, it wasn't connecting, so I had to make a new Rumble with that.
Starting point is 00:25:58 So go ahead and tell the story. There it is. So, yeah, we were like, okay, here it is. No more YouTube for Dr. Kelly. And it was really a high-rated show because she said some explosive stuff. But I was just curious how Caleb was able to get us back. I don't know if you want to tell your secrets. Yeah, so the truth is, for one thing, I'm shocked.
Starting point is 00:26:24 I don't know this is a new thing for YouTube to actually make sense and to listen. But I wrote back to them nicely in their very short form. And I explained by you are convincing millions of people that you are hiding something and they're just going to seek this out on other platforms. Let the two doctors debate. Let them let them butt heads and debate these topics. These are the professionals. And I'm not a professional. And the moderators are not professionals on these topics. And they restored it within, what, four to six hours, which I've never seen before. I didn't even have time to go out on social media and crap on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:27:09 They already literally were. It was I was like, God, I'm so glad I didn't promote that. But, um, George, um, Caleb, um, it's still not on, on Rumble. Yeah, I'm having, I couldn't get it on Rumble. I mean, I don't know if you have to go on Rumble, but if you you know tell those tell people what why you brought up rumble at all but you can upload it there later what are you going to do at rumble next week or the week after or next week so we're going to have a kelly victory day every wednesday she's going to come on the show and we're going to interview all the people in uh america who have ever been kicked off platforms for being medically misinformers or whatever.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Yeah, so I'm going to interview people that have great— Misinformers or whatever. They're serious physicians with incredible pedigrees who have been kicked off. I want to hear what they have to say or if they've changed their opinion. I don't know where they stand now because they're not allowed to talk anywhere. And I'm going to have Kelly Victory be with me because she can be there. She's more on their sort of in their camp she's sort of more more aligned with what they're saying yeah and uh we'll have at it a little bit over on rumble because the only place you can do that so we'll do it there that'll be wednesday i think we're starting next wednesday if if our guest
Starting point is 00:28:18 doesn't squirm out of it again wednesday three o'clock pacific the first guest may announce not yet because i'm how we're he... Let's just say it's all people... He always says yes, and then he's hard to find. It's all people who have been canceled on YouTube or Twitter, and some of whom have successfully sued these platforms. Think about those folks. And if we can keep it on YouTube, and their bots don't keep censoring our stuff,
Starting point is 00:28:43 and they don't give us another strike or whatever. We'll keep it there, but if we were going to use it on Rumble, but today we can't get on Rumble. I still don't see it on Rumble, though. Caleb, sorry. Let me respond to something on Restream. Your daddy says hi. First of all, I love hot sauce.
Starting point is 00:29:00 And secondly, yes, Charlotte Laws was a pit bull. She was a mom and a journalist and did what she had to do. We thought she was probably an attorney, but she was not. And she just really did a good job. You would think she was. She fought for what was right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Yeah. What an amazing story. She was very intellectual about it. Yeah. Are you trying to get it back on Rumble, Caleb? Because I'm not seeing it. It actually is on Rumble. I'm going to text you guys the link because it's on rumble caleb because i'm not it actually is on rumble i'm going to text you guys the link because it's on there but it's a different one now
Starting point is 00:29:28 okay it says it's restricted and private and jason do me a favor that might have been the first one on restream write down what she said that was categorically wrong that we know to be wrong because a lot of stuff she was saying was i'm worried is wrong but i don't we don't know for sure that this stuff is wrong yet so what's that what some of the things that stuff she was saying was, I'm worried is wrong, but we don't know for sure that this stuff is wrong yet. What's that? Some of the things that Kelly was saying. Oh, Kelly. Well, listen, she's got a lot of things that are against what most mainstream people believe or what we've learned.
Starting point is 00:30:01 But we're giving her the right to have her opinion based on her own you got i've known you gotta remember she is the the wife of my best friend from medical school uh and uh we you know i know she's a quality physician we you know found each other years later yeah she's had lawsuits against her in social media but never had a lawsuit against her as a as a practicing doctor so you know it's this uh ability to just try to take people down because you don't believe in what they say roughly 35 years ago she sat in our house my friend came to visit me and said look at my this is my new girlfriend you know and had a huge cat allergy attack and had to leave. And we didn't realize it was the same person.
Starting point is 00:30:47 We would have been best friends if she hadn't almost died of cat asphyxiation. Hey, Caleb, can you email me that link? Because I can't get it over to my computer. But anyways, if you're over on Rumble and you can see us, hey, we can't see you. But it does sort of remind me how it feels to not be able to be in touch with your audience. And if this week, we weren't really going to have a show anyways, because we're going to travel, but we decided to do this last minute because Jamie called us and wanted to be on the show. And I changed my flight and we're leaving a little later. So, you know, we get the opportunity
Starting point is 00:31:19 to tell everybody that if we are canceled on any of these platforms, you can find us at drdrew.tv on these other platforms. Hopefully Rumble will be accessible. And also Facebook and Twitter. But I don't welcome... I am not way outside of the mainstream in my opinion. I am not. But I seem to get in trouble because I'm willing to listen to outside of the mainstream in my opinions. I am not. But I seem to get in trouble because I'm willing to listen to outside of the mainstream opinions. Because for me to sit and talk to people
Starting point is 00:31:52 that agree with me across the board, why should I do that? I'll just give you that information. And my talking to them doesn't expand my knowledge base. So I need to talk to people who have outside other opinions. I can take in. I want to hear every point of view. And not only the Chinese propaganda. I want to hear what people who have studied this for the last two years have to say and how they feel about it and the research that they've done on it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Well, there's that. So we're back with Jamie again now that we've had our little diatribe about what's going on in our life. Well, I mean, we had the rug pulled out from under us. It's kind of painful, you know, when you know you can't go out on your platform. It's kind of weird. But on the other hand, we have new platforms. So just make sure you go elsewhere if we have any problems with this show. Okay. So hang on.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Jason, again, is very kindly responding to what I just asked of him. And he's going to go look at it and make a response. I'm wondering, can you put the... I don't want to take a lot of your time, Jason, but if you could just put some notes down and send it to contact at drdrew.com. Susan, if you'll look for that sort of feedback
Starting point is 00:33:01 on some concerns about Kelly's. And I'd be happy to address it. I'll bring it up here. I'll bring it up with her. I'll bring it up wherever. But that's discourse. I mean, I just tweeted my interview with Peter Hotez. Peter Hotez is on the complete opposite end of the spectrum from Kelly Victory. I don't agree with Peter Hotez either.
Starting point is 00:33:20 I realize that because he's a pediatrician, he has some very bad ideas about adult medicine because he's never done adult medicine. And so, but, but I admire him and I like, you know, I like talking to him. So anyway, Jeremy, I'm sorry, we, we, we digress. Um, we were talking about Alaska. We were talking about your marriage, talking about your kids. And do you think your kids are going to want to live in Alaska? And if they do, would that mean you got to stay there longer? Oh man, I, I think they might want to stay there. I mean, they do, would that mean you got to stay there longer? Oh, man. I think they might want to stay there. I mean, my son's 13, but he's like, my friends are here.
Starting point is 00:33:52 And so I might be going to Fairbanks, Alaska for the rest of my whole life. I just keep it compartmentalized in my mind because it's so insane. And I just act like it's okay, but it's really difficult. And where did you grow up? I grew up in Rochester, New upstate New York so at least you got cold got used to snow and cold that's good right yeah yeah yeah and I don't mind the coal it's more the I wish I could if somebody if a kid needs me for I wish I could get home if I needed to. And sometimes when I do a show on the East coast and I have four days off in between, I can't go home because I would get home for 24 hours and leave. So that, that's the most difficult thing. And that's another piece of
Starting point is 00:34:36 the travel part that people don't appreciate that Alaska is as far west as Hawaii, essentially, at least like Juneau is. And so you're literally going, what, is it nine hours to get home? Oh yeah, and not only that, Doctor, it's as far west as Hawaii, but you don't get to go to Hawaii. No, I know, you do not. You get something quite different.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Quite different. It's probably 15 hours a lot of times with the um it's six to seattle two hour layover three and a half oh sorry so uh okay i'm still looking at the reason uh most guys it says most guys in alaska will pick up a second gig with a snow plow or a tow truck driver not a comedian yeah well that's pretty much true yeah that's funny oh and i went to this yeah i was gonna say when i went to um thanks they just they got uh uber for the first time well i lived there like three years ago they go oh we got uber and i was like oh this is amazing
Starting point is 00:35:43 i've been using this all over the country. I was very excited. I was telling people about it. I called Uber to go to the airport, and this guy, Matt, picked me up. And then I called Uber when I got back from the airport, and the same guy picked me up. One guy was doing Uber for like two weeks. It was like a small-time kind of thing. It was amazing.
Starting point is 00:35:58 I just got his number. And then the local paper interviewed him. Yeah, I spoke at University of Alaska, which was an interesting experience. It was like fall and it was fucking freezing. And a moose walked right down the middle of the street. There was a moose down the street. And that's just it.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Did I say Fairbanks? I meant Anchorage, Anchage at university of alaska yeah all right let's do this take a little break uh and we will then come back with your calls jamie lissa with us i think we have found the holy grail of skin care genu cell has absolutely changed certainly my skin care regimen i like that vitamin c serum the under eye creams skin nourishing primer. Susan loves the eyelash enhancers, uses it on her eyebrows as well. GenuCell has everything to make us both feel and look amazing. Best part, the quality of the products. Using pure ingredients like antioxidants,
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Starting point is 00:37:42 time and I'm so excited because it's actually working. Right now you can try GenuCell's most popular collection of products and see what I'm talking about for yourself. Go to GenuCell.com and enter code Drew for 10% off. That is G-E-N-U-C-E-L.com and the code is D-R-E-W. Yes, thank you to our friends at Genu i'm using that eye cream really i look like an idiot in that ad so um yeah i'm too much it's your real feelings about it yeah i like that you seem genuine no i i was looking for my uh whitening under eye cream today and i couldn't find it but i think it's packed in my luggage to go to austin and i'm like i hope it's in there i hope it's in there i hope it's in there yeah we're going to visit our, that's like my favorite stuff. Our friends at your mom's house will be in Austin tonight. So let's bring Jamie Lissow back. Before we go to call Jamie, anything,
Starting point is 00:38:33 did I miss anything about what's coming up for you or what you wanted to talk about or, okay. No, that was absolutely, it was absolutely perfect. That's amazing. Can I ask one? I'm not done with you. You're going to, you're going to take the take the calls with me but yes you can ask one question but just one question doesn't open to my can of worms so i don't know if you know this about me but i i have a a bit of a history with addiction um mainly drinking i i quit drinking for a long time and then i uh i uh started again when i got divorced because you can't date girls without drinking. And then it quickly became out of control. And then I quit again.
Starting point is 00:39:08 I'm just hitting another year of being sober again. Congratulations. Thank you very much. And just kind of a quick question, if you don't mind, have you heard of a Kratom? And I wondered if you had a quick thought on safety or if that's a, people recommended that to me as like a thing hey if you want to try a little something it's not this you know it's not as serious as like drinking or this but curious it's uh a weak opiate okay it's like taking a little bit of vicodin a very small dose
Starting point is 00:39:41 but a little bit does that sound good for somebody with alcoholism? Probably not. Okay. Probably not. Thank you, doctor. Probably not. I'm just kidding. Yeah, it's being used a lot. And people kind of, because it is a very small dose, people like it, right?
Starting point is 00:40:00 If you have that brain, you like it. And then they keep going with it because they like it, if you have that that brain you like it and then they keep going with it because they like it of course and they can because it's weak they can kind of control it for a while and then all of a sudden they're wondering why they're drinking again or why they're doing their cocaine again or whatever it is it's it's this drug it triggers it triggers the whole thing and um are you in the program or you're just not drinking i'm just not not drinking. I tried going to a couple of meetings. It wasn't exactly my thing. A lot of friends in it, but I just don't drink.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Well, you're doing fine without it, which, I mean, how much better can you do than fine? But this is the reason for the program, because this is one of the reasons, is because you could ask around the room and go, hey, you guys ever heard of this Kratom stuff? And they'd be like, sit down, Jamie. No.
Starting point is 00:40:50 But you can ask me anytime too, so feel free to do that. That's that brain you have that's talking to us. It's the same one that makes you as creative and as successful as you are. You shouldn't feel bad ever that you have this thing because it comes with a lot of really good stuff. It just has this one liability that you have to manage. That's all. And so I'll tell you my whole theory
Starting point is 00:41:16 about the evolution of alcoholism someday and why it's a more evolved state. A lot of good stuff that comes with it. Cool. Thank you. I don't know if your wife would agree with me but okay but anyway so all right let's get some calls going here this is uh balanced life let's see what they want to ask here balanced life your mic is muted hello hey there hey drew how's it going good excellent listen i just wanted to touch base with you and let you know you um in december i'm sorry in january of this year did a um a video on that app oh my god what is the name where you connect with us? I make a request.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Cameo? Cameo. Thank you so much. I totally forgot. You did a video for my mom, Ruth, who had a stroke. And you took an exorbitant amount of time explaining what she was expecting. And I wanted to just thank you so, so much. When she was going through, she did well.
Starting point is 00:42:23 She's back like 98% when she got through the, when she, when she would have her difficult days and she worked her butt off. And when she had her difficult days, she, um, she absolutely, I'd let her watch your video and man, Drew, honestly, you, you helped save my mom and she's done so well. She's got like a little bit of, um, when she starts off her speaking, uh, I wasn't expecting to actually be connected. So thank you so much, by the way, I'm a little, yeah. So, um, so when you, um, when she starts off her speech patterning, like to just responses, it it's like it takes an extra second other than that she's got no more right side neglect amazing no more aphasia she totally nailed it
Starting point is 00:43:12 and you explained the process from start to finish and spent so much time doing so in that video to her and it meant so much to all of us so thank you you, thank you, thank you. Very kind. Truly thank you from all of us. Listen, my friend, it's absolutely my pleasure. Well, it's interesting, and thank you. I'm putting you back in the audience there. You're embarrassing me. Because it really was nothing. I've heard you doing them, and you spend a lot of time.
Starting point is 00:43:41 But I have to tell you something. That, you know, there is a podcast up right now that Sam Harris is talking to a guy who was a French horn player and he became a social psychologist. And he was talking about the evolution of really intellect and work across your lifespan. And he said, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:03 until you peak in your late 30s in terms of your professional skills and. And he said, you know, until you peak in your late 30s in terms of your professional skills and your ability to work extremely long hours, I'm like, yep, that's right. That's what happened to me. And then he said you get something called consolidated wisdom, where you take consolidated intellect,
Starting point is 00:44:17 where you take all of the experience and sort of chunk it into wisdom and insight, and you tend to shift from the actual getting your hands dirty part of that kind of work to wanting to teach it or to sort of supervise it, that kind of thing. And I thought, oh my God, that really happened to me because I feel right now like I had this amazing experience clinically for decades where I was doing psychiatry and medicine, same time in environments that one doctor just doesn't get to see anymore. It just doesn't happen.
Starting point is 00:44:45 And I just want to unload all that as much as I can. So the fact that our caller's mom was the beneficiary of that, it literally is nothing to me. It literally is no problem. It's what I want to do. I want to unload these experiences. And you, too, asking me about Kratom and stuff, I'm delighted to just put it out there as much as i can and to the extent to which you know my medical instincts have been uh trashed out there it's hard to just want to do good and have to have people shit on you all the time but you know that's the way it goes
Starting point is 00:45:17 yes jamie yeah man and i think it's interesting's interesting too how to you it is kind of an enjoyable thing. But it's funny, like since you just said that to me, I can't stop thinking about it. And I took some notes. And it was just a little thing for you to give me that insight. But for me, maybe you saved me a relapse in all seriousness. Yeah. Just that little thing that I didn't. No, and I know what it is you know
Starting point is 00:45:47 and i've been i see it i know the whole situation you're dealing with and you know and why you'd think about doing that i i know the whole story i know it because i've been there many many many many times with with people and um and that and that experience really helps you i mean what good would it be if i didn't use it? So please call me anytime. That sort of goes without saying. Or get a cameo from him. $198.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Hello, Mr. Drew. Hi Amir, what's up? What's up? I'm from Iran. It's actually 2.30 here. Wow. Hi, Amir. What's up? What's up? I'm from Iran. It's actually 2.30 here. Wow.
Starting point is 00:46:27 I'm a big fan. Q Featherny, brother. Yeah, man. Thank you, Amir. He says, let me explain something to Jamie. So, Jamie, I do a podcast with Tom Segura and his wife over at your mom's house. Have you ever heard of your mom's house? Yes, of course.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Okay. So, you ought to come over there and be on that podcast, too's it's called dr drew after dark if you're in austin if you're in austin doing a show or something we we tend to let me know and i'll try to schedule it up and stuff but but um amir is talking about that show and that's been a lot of fun yeah i'm literally in tehran enjoying every episode dr drew. Drew. It's amazing. Very kind. I just laugh my ass off every day. It's really the only way I get through my day. Now, I have a question, which is I'm 21.
Starting point is 00:47:15 I'm studying veterinary medicine, DVM here. And I don't know if you know about the political situation here, but no one really wants to stay here as a student anymore. Even me, my dad is a pathologist and my mom works in the medical university here. And even with these situations, I still don't want to stay here. And I've been wondering how can I apply to, you know, U.S. or I don't know anywhere because my true passion is medical science I really enjoy medical science since I was like 13 14 I would watch different operation video eye operation videos it was just you know absolutely my favorite thing so are you committed to veterinary science?
Starting point is 00:48:05 Are you asking how you get into medical training here? Exactly. So what the authorities at my university told me was I could just take a bachelor's degree in, I think, laboratory science and just apply for a master's to U.S. or whatever country I want to. But the problem is I'm Iranian. Now, I don't know if you know a person named Trump, but that guy's travel ban just screwed us over completely. To the point where I'm just confused. And what I really know is I really don't want to stay here,
Starting point is 00:48:47 and I really don't know what to do. That's been a question in my mind for, I don't know, two or three years now. I just really don't know. Hold on. Let me see. I'm going to see if anybody knows anything on some of my streams here. If anybody has any ideas, hold on a here if anybody has any ideas hold on a second uh jamie any ideas from your camp oh man i got not really an area of expertise
Starting point is 00:49:12 i i would think what what they're telling you is the right thing the question is how do you get out to do it right isn't that you're really your question yeah because i think if you got a master's in a in like chemistry or biology really if you got a master's in any kind of chemistry or biochemistry, you'd be positioned, I would think, to apply to American medical schools then. I really think you'd be in a very good position. But you'd have to get a green card, I guess. You'd have to come over here. And I think— It's so—you have no idea how absurd the system is here dr joe it's ridiculous
Starting point is 00:49:47 like no student i've known from my high school uh i've been with 100 people who wanted to apply for medical university and almost like 70 of that class just went to canada like nobody wants to stay here it's absurd it's ridiculous even i don nobody wants to stay here. It's absurd. It's ridiculous. Even I don't want to stay here. The economy is insane. I'm so sorry. Do you want to know how to pollute the economy?
Starting point is 00:50:14 Can you apply to the State Department or anything? Or can you go to the embassy and just question them on what the process would be? All I know is um i've been applying to i've been actually sending emails to professors i'm actually practicing at the neuroscience lab thanks to my mom and she had connections here and i've been doing research in a nurse in the um neuroscience research facility here at Shade Bay University. And, you know, it's my really, my true compassion is actually to, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:55 I have only true two compassions, medical science and comedy. That's why I've been listening to you forever. That's so funny. Jamie's here to represent. But I wish I had some specific... So my thing would be A, get that master's in biochemistry
Starting point is 00:51:15 or chemistry. I think that's the right move to make. And by the way, in the meantime, you've got time here. Don't you think, Jamie, things are going to kind of loosen up with Iran from the standpoint of travel at least? I would think so. And I was just thinking, just hearing his voice and his passion and his unique perspective, I would immediately start doing something, some kind of content, your own original thing. Because that, I mean, that was, he just said something that I wasn't aware of.
Starting point is 00:51:44 And I think people might want to hear that whether it's tiktok or youtube there's never been a better time to kind of do your own thing yeah i i agree and uh it just put it out there and put it up and just there's so many i mean literally you hold hold a movie studio in your hand now it's ridiculous it's what used to require an entire small city you've got in the in your hand now. It's ridiculous. It's what used to require an entire small city you've got in your hand. But in terms of getting over here, it stays towards that master's, then medical school, but you've got to find a way over here.
Starting point is 00:52:15 And I just don't know what that is. And I would imagine the State Department, there's still a U.S. Embassy in Toronto. Or go to Canada. Well, if he goes to Canada, I mean, that's another way to do it. But then he's got to do the foreign medical graduate thing down here and do his residency down here, which you can do,
Starting point is 00:52:32 but they make that road really hard. And again, hopefully not harder for Iranian students. That's really sad when you hear that, right? Sad to hear when politics get in the way of life, you know? Yeah, and I mean, that's the one thing that everybody keeps saying over here. We like the Iranian people. We don't like their government. But we're making the Iranian people suffer, right?
Starting point is 00:52:54 And that's the horrible part about the situation these days. All right, Josh, what's going on? Hey, man, what's happening? Not much. Just want to talk about mental health i noticed your guest talked about drug alcoholism and i feel like it needs to be talked about every day um and in this case i kind of want to continue what you're talking about about anosognosia and i wanted you to you know to say that there is also something called the unconscious mind. And we don't know why we're doing the things we're doing.
Starting point is 00:53:31 And I think from your point of view as an addiction person, your point is to stop the addiction first. And then maybe later you can come to the unconscious things that are going on that would cause you to maybe have the addiction in the first place. No, it's the other way around. Because the addictions occur at the very lowest level of brain, beneath the unconscious. So the unconscious serves the addiction. So one of the reasons I like treating addicts is you can really see all the brain operations when people are in the disease of addiction because the unconscious starts serving the motivational disturbance we call addiction. And the person will not be aware, because it's the unconscious, why they're thinking, saying, feeling, planning the things they are. It's the unconscious being influenced by the motivational disturbance
Starting point is 00:54:26 of get that next drink or get that drug again. And so the unconscious, there's no unconscious involved in addiction. Wait, let's put it this way. It's only subconscious. There's something beneath the unconscious. It's called the subconscious. And that's all addiction is. It's the lowest level. It's the medial forebrain bundle. It's the anterior. It's the ventral tegmental input to the shell of the nucleus accumbens. And that's at the bottom part of the brain. And it influences everything else. It's one of the reasons I like working with addiction because you get to see the functions of all the other brain serving this broken motivation. Sound familiar, Jamie?
Starting point is 00:55:08 Oh, man, it sounds familiar. You know what really helped me? And I don't know. It's just a case study of myself. But I noticed one day that I just, my whole day was trying to feel different. So I would wake up and go, I don't like this guy. I'm going to have a coffee. And then I would go, I don't like this guy. I'm going to have a coffee. And then I would go, I don't like this guy. I'm going to be, I'm going to drink and be this other
Starting point is 00:55:29 guy. And it was the moment where I said, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta hang out with this guy and you gotta accept like the way this person feels without trying to change it. That for me was when I made the biggest through just like journaling and exercise. If you want to feel different, there are, you know, you know, there's ways to feel different through exercise or walking or calling a friend. But it was that was one big thing for me was trying to change the way I felt without a substance. So so one of the things about that kind of drinking is that you start wanting to feel better. Right. But yet you keep drinking even when the drinking makes you feel worse. And that's how you know it's not about the feeling better. It's about just getting the drink.
Starting point is 00:56:13 So this motivational thing just takes over and has you using, even when you're like, I just want to feel better. I just want to feel better. Why am I feeling worse? I feel worse, worse, worse. More shit starts happening. I still am drinking in spite of it not working anymore. And that's the motivational problem underneath what was a reasonable thing to begin with. I want to feel better. This makes me feel better.
Starting point is 00:56:35 That's a reasonable thing. That's how most addictions get started. People just want to be less pain, less whatever, less anxious. And then this other thing steps in that's actually a genetic thing down lower in your brain that goes, oh, really? Really? How's it feel now? Keep going. See how that feels. And then it doesn't work. And you want to keep using it when it doesn't work. It's the difference between wanting and liking. Our brain system has two different qualities to it. We have a wanting system and a liking system, right? And you like feeling better. But even when it's not making you feel better, you still want it. And that's one way of thinking about addiction.
Starting point is 00:57:16 So, yeah, it's kind of interesting, right? Yeah. What also makes it hard is when you're in that cycle, you end up, you're perpetuate. You wake up and you feel ashamed and you feel even more anxious and some of that's being caused by this withdrawal from the damn thing that was supposed to be helping me right and and and what happens is so this is now back to the the deep brain stuff the brain the deeper motivational stuff goes uh don't listen to that reasonable part of your mind just get another drink just don't listen to that just you'll your mind. Just get another drink. Just don't listen to that. Just do it.
Starting point is 00:57:45 You'll feel better. Go ahead. And it starts affecting your thinking and it starts affecting everything else. And so that's how it does its thing, by taking all those other tremendous functions we have on top of those motivational systems and commandeering them to its own demand, which is do this again, do this again, do this this again which is the wanting system and uh yeah it's a it's a very interesting condition it's it's not fun necessarily but it's very very interesting and and by the way the alcohol has to work for you in the first place
Starting point is 00:58:18 or you wouldn't do it it didn't actually make you feel better you wouldn't start the whole process it actually does but you start to learn where it goes if you if you start down that path and then as you did on your own which is sort of your you did your own sort of cognitive behavioral therapy you learn how to look at this thing that you were feeling and come up with more productive ways of managing that feeling, like you said, exercise or something else. Yep. That hits home. Yep. Somebody's asking on the, I guess, the restream, what do I mean by lower in the brain? Your brain is sort of built on top of itself. As we have evolved from lizards, we didn't get a new... There it is.
Starting point is 00:59:08 There's the question. We didn't get a new brain. It's called Jacksonian evolution. We've got functions on top of the older systems. And we kept piling on through evolution more and more what are called higher functions, leaving us with the lower functions generally being sort of controlled by the higher functions. And a healthy brain integrates all these systems. We have motivational systems.
Starting point is 00:59:36 We have subconscious systems. We have higher cortical, conscious, cognitive functions. We have interpersonal functions, the orbital frontal system that gives us the capacity to sort of regulate all these different systems through our interaction with other humans, it turns out. So it's all these things. But the lower brain is the stuff we share with lizards. And it's really the part that says eat, survive, reproduce. That's essentially all it's there to do. and it gets commandeered by drugs and alcohol if you are genetically set up in such a way that those lower functions can get commandeered and then survival itself starts to mean much less compared to get that next drink and that's due to
Starting point is 01:00:22 biology that's just a biological feature of what happens. Essentially, one of the theories is that we get this second messenger in our nucleus accumbens called the cyclic AMP response element binding protein that starts to alter the genetic machinery. There's actually multiple different sort of phases that the brain goes through as you're drinking, you know, sort of as it's onlining this whole process. But I think the final pathway is that wanting system taking over. And that's the cells of the nucleus accumbens that really is setting the priorities for survival. And instead of survival, it becomes get the next drink. And with survival, usually some of our higher functions pile on and go, take care of your kids, do your job, get up on time, make your bed, take care of yourself.
Starting point is 01:01:09 All that stuff starts to go away when this one priority emerges in addiction. So anyway, enough of that. That's my little primer for today. It's the only thing I can dual task at. Is what? Drinking and doing the show? Is that your dual task i think i think we lost you somewhere in the back what is it with what it's a strange my just a weird coincidence
Starting point is 01:01:32 my thanks to do this for today is eat survive reproduce that's so weird yeah well good good enjoy enjoy we saw you're good at that four kids yeah three well who knows how dare you uh okay uh all right uh thank you on restream i'm seeing you guys uh let me go head over to uh rumble i did want to mention something what you guys are yeah go uh he he wasn't entirely joking earlier when he said his website is robschneidersfriend.com. If you go to robschneidersfriend.com, it redirects. I figured that's what it was. I figured there was something real in there. It was too just so.
Starting point is 01:02:19 It was too on the nose. And so I figured you had to own that. Yeah, robschneidersfriend.com. It's not the only thing he has. When you get the redirect, you'll find a lot of other things there, like the stand-up he does with Rob and the movie he does with Rob and the real Rob. I'm sure you get access to that also.
Starting point is 01:02:41 So there you go. Hey, listen, that's kind of how things work in this world anyway so i'm i'm glad you're with rob rob's a great guy and he's a dear friend i think i told you the the story with his dog did i not i don't know i didn't tell you that he used to feed broccoli too so okay so here's the story so he had he had this west shire terrier these beautiful little dog he was sweet as can be he lived here in pasadena he lived where we live and so we got to be friendly and he had to go away for like two weeks or something and so we said we'll babysit oscar his name was oscar oscar the terrier and rob comes over and he goes look
Starting point is 01:03:21 this dog can only eat raw broccoli and this special organic elk meat or something that we get from Jamie's ships down from Alaska. It was something ridiculous. It was something that dogs don't eat. It was like the broccoli and the this. And he's like, this is the healthiest dog in the world. And because I love him, you have to feed him this. Okay, okay. Susan pushed back a little bit. I was like, broccoli? She goes, broccoli, no way. is the healthiest dog in the world and because i love him you have to feed him this right okay okay susan pushed back a little bit then you can i was like broccoli she goes broccoli no way that's not
Starting point is 01:03:50 for dogs oh yes but i mean my dog broccoli if it's cooked organic but not raw and so the two days in that dog gets diarrhea and just just all over our house just destroys the whole house he would sit underneath my desk when i was working and he just had the most pungent farts ever in the history of dogs we are feeding this dog dog food and then everything got better except for rob called me and i was like i was like tearing up because the smell was so bad and i was trying to tell him on the phone without being mean and he got really insulted you did what he said and the dog so you gave him what he was supposed to eat and that's what gave him what he's supposed to get and he gave shit everywhere with diarrhea and we finally like switched over to dog food it all got better. And of course, Rob got him back and switched him back to his
Starting point is 01:04:46 potions. And that dog died of diabetes at a young age. He did. I shouldn't laugh. He was cute. And so we were like, Rob, what happened to Oscar? He goes, he's gone. He's gone. I'm like, what? Poor Oscar.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Listen, dogs after all. It was a cry for help. Oh, my God. I've never smelled. Have you ever smelled dog food? It smells like a cigar. It's so strong and it burns your eyelashes. So, Jamie, I want to ask one last thing.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Can you find Real Rob somewhere? Because if people have not seen it, it is a great show. And you'll see what I mean about Rob's wife. ahead where can they find it you will yes you can see real rob for a while longer on netflix seasons one and two of real rob star and robert david spade more mcdonald adam sandler and i'm in there too i i really really recommend it and keep an eye on the music that they play during the interstitials it's just just really, it's very clever. It's very fun. And if you know Rob at all, it's extra super funny because he's making fun of himself the whole way. And it is very much Rob. I mean, that's sort of his, much like the Oscar story. I mean, that could have easily been a storyline in in the in the series had it continued so that's very much him that's so like when we would get that was
Starting point is 01:06:10 the great thing about writing a show like that when you got stuck you could go rob we need like an opening for this episode and he would go well one time i hit a pedestrian and the police cared more about me than the pedestrian you're like okay're like, okay, we'll put that in. That's it. That's the opening. Perfect. Right. All right. Well, there it is. There's the I guess I had not seen that panel for it. But okay, check it out on Netflix.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Just look up Real Rob. Search for it. I recommend it highly. And Jamie, hopefully I'll see you in New York. So you're going to be around on Friday or are you out by then? I will be at my gig in Greenville. so I will not be here. But I hope to see you again soon. That's right. Great time.
Starting point is 01:06:49 All right. Hope to see you across. Making everybody laugh. South Carolina. We'll cross paths in New York. If you're in South Carolina, go over and see Jamie. Yeah. Oh, and Greenville is a beautiful city.
Starting point is 01:06:58 It's a really cool city. Are you in that, what club is it again? It's the Comedy Zone in Greenville, South Carolina. Comedy Zone. All right, head on in there. And Jamie, see you soon. Bye, my friend. Okay, see you soon.
Starting point is 01:07:11 And the rest of you. Ta-ta. We are coming back to do, we're going to do a show on Monday, is that correct? Yeah, maybe Friday. I have a feeling we're not going to. Friday's looking a little busy. It's going to be hard. Somebody on YouTube, Aaron Howell, said he tried thickening a spaghetti
Starting point is 01:07:26 sauce with grated Brussels sprouts once. It worked, but made people gassy. Small dog got a bowl of it and farted for two days straight. If you've learned anything today, don't give your dog Brussels sprouts or broccoli.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Just leave it to carrots. They like carrots. This is something I've been adding to the recent episodes. Or broccoli. Just leave it to carrots. They like carrots. Yes. This is something I've been adding to the recent episodes is this overlay here. It has a QR code and it also has this link. If people go to the QR code, they screenshot it, or if they go to drdrew.com slash 81 2022, it has a list of all of his upcoming shows
Starting point is 01:07:59 and all the info they can need if they want to see what city he's going to be in. Always put all the links for each episode up on the website. And when it says notes from this episode, what else is on that QR code? Anything that you guys mentioned during the show while the show's going, I try to add links or important stuff. His appearances are all on there. All his appearances, things like that.
Starting point is 01:08:19 Like when you were talking with Dr. Victory, and she would mention a research study, I would go and find it and put the link onto that page on the website so that people can, in the future, whenever they're watching the show, go back and look at it. And you can also find the link to GenuCell right above it. Yep.
Starting point is 01:08:32 So, you know. Good to GenuCell, everybody. All right. So we will definitely see you a week from Wednesday. No, we'll definitely see you in a week. Monday, we'll do a Monday show. We may see you on Friday. We'll try. Monday and no on Tuesday. If we do Friday, it'll either see you in a week. Monday, we'll do a Monday show. We may see you on Friday. We'll try.
Starting point is 01:08:45 Monday and no on Tuesday. If we do Friday, it'll either be very early or very late, I suspect. Right, Susan? It's not looking good for me either because I have to go to the Upper West Side. We'll see. We'll try. But, you know, if we're bored sitting around, okay, we'll come back from Gutfeld. But check him out on Gutfeld on Friday. And then when we get back, yeah,
Starting point is 01:09:07 we're going to be on, you're going to be on the Gutfeld show next Friday. Try it out. Try it out. And watch Most Hated Man on the Internet. We watch Most Hated Man on the Internet. We'll watch that first episode, which we have not seen yet to see what you're talking about. And we got to catch a plane right now. So we'll see you guys later. Thank you for joining us. Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Caleb Nation and Susan
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