Ask Dr. Drew - Jason Miller on Trump’s Flag Burning EO, Brazil’s Moraes Problem & The Department Of War + Steve Hilton, The Anti-Newsom Running for California Governor – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 523

Episode Date: August 30, 2025

Steve Hilton is running for Governor of California as the anti-Newsom, saying Gavin’s reign has been a blueprint for national failure. Jason Miller, former Senior Advisor to President Trump, defends Trump’s Executive Order banning flag-burning despite First Amendment protections of free speech and expression. Miller calls Brazilian Justice Alexandre de Moraes a democratic threat, supports the National Guard deployment in DC, and urges similar federal action in Chicago against cartel-driven crime. Steve Hilton is a candidate for California governor and former Fox News host of The Next Revolution. An Oxford graduate, he served as Head of Strategy for UK Prime Minister David Cameron. He founded a tech startup and authored Califailure: Reversing the Ruin of America’s Worst-Run State. Follow at https://x.com/stevehiltonx Jason Miller is a former Senior Advisor to President Donald J. Trump, serving as a strategist for Trump’s three presidential campaigns. He has advised numerous U.S. political figures and global CEOs. Follow at https://x.com/JasonMiller 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 Find out more about the brands that make this show possible and get special discounts on Dr. Drew's favorite products at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/sponsors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/fatty15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/paleovalley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • VSHREDMD – Formulated by Dr. Drew: The Science of Cellular Health + World-Class Training Programs, Premium Content, and 1-1 Training with Certified V Shred Coaches! More at https://drdrew.com/vshredmd • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twc.health/drew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠) and Susan Pinsky (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/firstladyoflov⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠e⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Thank you for joining us, as always. Today, we have a gubernatorial candidate, Steve Hilton. You can follow him on X at Steve Hilton X. Hilton X. I love that. His book is Califalier, reversing the ruin of America's worst run state. And indeed, I'm here to tell you that it has been a califalier. Living it, been here my whole life, and I've seen it happen in real time.

Steve is in Oxford graduate. He served as head of strategy for U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron, and he'll be here with us in a second. And then we're going to speak to Jason Miller, a former senior advisor to the President of the United States, and a strategist around political campaigns. He has advised multiple, numerous political figures. And he's going to talk amongst other things about the situation with Brazil and Bricks, Trump's sending troops possibly to Chicago, and flag burning after this. our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre the psychopaths start this he was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography PTSD love addiction fentanyl and heroin ridiculous I'm a doctor for I say where the hell you think I learned that I'm just saying

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But first, we're going to talk a little bit about the disaster that is California with a gubernatorial candidate, Steve Hilton. Steve, you can follow him on X, Steve Hilton X, also Steve Hilton for governor.com. And again, Califailure, which I love that title, because it is evident to everyone know what a failure California has become. Steve, welcome to the program. Great to be with you. I mean, it's so depressing, isn't it?

We love this state so much. I mean, I just heard your conversations about immigration. I love America. I love California. I just hate to see what these people have done to our beautiful. state. And that's why I'm running, really, because we can't let it go on like this. Like somebody's got to do something. I've had that feeling myself. And, you know, let's kind of frame it for people. I don't even know where to start. You know, we have, let's start with the, the,

I have to laugh to myself because I mean, there's so much nonsense that comes out of his mouth. But let's talk about him building 1,200 tiny homes. He's going to have it done. I think he said is going to have it done in months, or weeks, not months. And 1,200 tiny homes of $700 million for the taxpayers. None have been built two years hence. I mean, nothing. This is every single thing. That's why you're right.

It's so hard to choose because that's why, you know, when I was writing the book and putting together my campaign now, everything is a disaster. It's uniquely bad. that he's clearly the worst governor in America. I think if you look at the scale of the failure, if you just tick through the different issues where we are not just doing poorly in the middle of the pack

compared to other states in America. We are the worst, right? Bottom of every list that you want to be the top of, top of every list you want to be the bottom of. And it goes back to this terrible combination. So the tiny homes thing is a perfect example of that where you have this terrible combination of really bad ideas. is left wing, ideology, there's just a disaster, coupled with total inability to do anything,

complete incompetence, just cluelessness, because the people in charge, Newsom is one of them, but actually all of them in California, you know, Karen Bass in L.A., Kamala Harris is another one, after these 15 years now of one-party rule, this is what you get. I've seen it so many times before. It just gets very corrupt, arrogant, inward-looking, the people. that rise to the top. They don't know how to do anything. It's just... It's so odd to me.

It's not, it's not something that I would have predicted based on first principles of the democratic ideology. Why does it always end up like this? Well, they, because they lose touch with... It's the combination of the one-party rules. So they're not interested any longer in the people, right? It's themselves.

It's managing their internal audiences, the unions, and pandering to the activists and all of that. And so it's all about managing the politics and climbing the ladder and pandering rather than solving actual problems. And so they do all this stuff. Anything but solve the problems. Yeah, anything but that. In fact, one of the things I called out Newsom on last week is he went,

you know, Trump is worrying about crime in cities, nine or eight out of ten of the high. murder rates in the country are in Republican, or he said red states. And I looked it up, and of course, that was correct. But within those red states that were responsible for the highest murder rate were blue cities, which were nine of the top ten. Nine of the top ten murder cities and high crime rates in their country. And so, it's so funny to me, then I saw somebody on Twitter on X, say, well, of course, the blue cities in red states are the ones with the highest crime rates. This shows you how screwy people

can get with data. He said, this person said to me out, I thought, oh my God, you could argue anything. He said, of course it's that way because the Republican state is restricting the city from getting access to funds they need to manage their city. It's just amazing.

So look, let's just very quickly to run through it because it's just so shocking when you do the whole list altogether. Right now, today, California has the highest unemployment rate in America. The highest poverty rate in America. Very clearly, I'm using the word rate, because often Gavin Newsom tries to get through this by saying, you know, we've got the highest number of

startups or whatever. Yeah, because we're the biggest state, with the most people. Rate is right. Highest poverty rate, highest unemployment rate, highest housing costs, lowest home ownership, highest cost for gas, electricity, water, insurance, worst business climate voted on by chief executive magazine, they do an annual survey, 10 years in a row, the worst business climate. I mean, there's more, you know, look at education. Third grade reading is, by all, everyone agrees, is the best predictor of students' future achievement, worst results in the country. We used to have, we were world famous for our education system in California, the UC system,

our public schools, the envy of the world, now we're the worst in America. I mean, and there's more. But on every single issue, we're not just doing relatively bad. we are the worst in America. And this is what you get from people who are just this combination of ideology and incompetence. It's such a disaster.

And that's why, I mean, they're very arrogant, these people. I can just feel it in this governor's race. You know, in all the way that they're covered by the California media, they completely assume that they're going to be in power forever, that really this governor's race is like which Republican machine,

which Democrat machine politician they're going to put in there. Is it Katie Porter? Is it Harvey Becerra? Is it now they're talking about Alex Padilla, the senator, you know, one non-entity after another. It doesn't even enter their head that a Republican is going to win next year. I'm very confident that I will because once, they haven't faced a candidate like me who's got a combination of policy background. You mentioned my time working in the government back in the day in the UK. Business background. I've started companies on both

sides at the Atlantic. I've run small businesses, restaurants, you know, I know how about focusing on results? And the media experience, they haven't faced anyone like me. And I just think they're in for a real shock next year because people are sick of this. We can't go on like this. And once you get a really strong alternative out there, I think we're going to provide a real shock to certainly to California, these arrogant Democrat elitists, but to the whole country next year in the election.

I've lost so much faith in the California voter. I mean, we had an opportunity to put Rick Caruso and really build things up and knows how to build infrastructure and get things going and just dismissed for someone who clearly, is sort of representative of exactly what you're talking about. And the same people that voted her in don't seem to me to be complaining loud enough. And I don't know quite what that is.

It may be, and so I want to ask you this, it may be that they're running into the California regulatory morass in such a way that it's not really the city per se, although certainly the city doesn't make it better. it's the legislature in this state, rather, that is really to blame. So talk to me a little bit about, is that true? I mean, for sure, the regulatory excess is just spectacular. You know, Corolla did a video just today I saw where he was not able to go and buy a treated plank of wood

because they were not allowed to saw it or something near the water. It couldn't be sawed, right? because the chemicals in the treated wood might somehow leach into the groundwater or something. All of those pieces of wood, millions of them were used to build the houses in the palisades. They all melted and flowed into the ocean. Millions and millions and millions of those plagues. And they, again, this is the lack of pragmatic awareness. They're, you know, they're trying to regulate the minutia.

and then the real problems get completely overlooked in the process. Yes, okay, I'll give you an example, so they're worried about the piece of wood or whatever with their ridiculous regulations. Guess what else they've been regulating is the use of rodenticide. And so guess what we have now in California, a rat plague?

That's the latest, the thing that they've done. Not only rat plague. In 2024, we were the second L.A. County, second radius county in the country, and we may be number one in 2020. And we have no ability to control the rats. We have a bloom of murine typhus, which is endemic here. We have dengy fever being transmitted by 80s mosquitoes, and we have plague now arriving

in the state. And plague doesn't stop. Claib gets going. It's all flea and tick-borne illness from the rodents that we are forbidden to treat or manage, and yet they are blossoming because of the homeless populations. And somebody asked me on the media that day, wonder, well, how is this possible? why we thought we had the plague under control. And you know what I said?

Like, yeah, we did. We absolutely did when we knew, when we managed urban environments. This is an urban environment being unmanaged, completely run-em-off. It's like, it is medieval times here. Okay, it's literally this morning, right? This morning, I was in Oakland.

So I live in the Bay Area. I went to Oakland because I was so short, I actually just, on my way to some campaign events last weekend in Sonoma County, stop for gas just off the freeway I encountered something that's what I mean I've seen a lot of this

and just as you have you know and the homeless encampments the squalor whatever I saw something the scale it was worse than I'd ever seen in California and I wanted to show people so I went back today to and I made shot some video

we'll be putting that out on the social media channels probably today or tomorrow at Steve Hilton X and while I was there I talked to this lady this homeless lady and she was in an RV. And right, like her view, as it were, from her home

is this pile of trash, like you just can't believe. The sheer squalor, you cannot believe, in the middle of one of our great cities, Oakland. And I said to what's it like? She'd been there six months. She said, well, the first thing she said is the rats. I said, and she had big-ass rats all the time. And she pointed out, just beyond the fence

or a bunch of, you know, garbage, you know, the bins that you put the garbage in. Totally locked up, not used, because it's just run by absolute ideologues and idiots. And this is what's happening in California. I'm just, I really, I know. It's unbelievable. I know people are sick of it. They're sick of it. They're sick of it, but it's like they're blind to it.

It's so weird. And to me, of course, I'm watching my patients die on the streets. They have terminal illness, the terminal mental health and brain diseases, addictions, and they're being allowed to die at the rate of 6 to 8 per day here in L.A. County. That is negligent manslaughter. There's negligent manslaughter, period, because these are treatable conditions. These people could be helped, but brain isn't working, right? So you have to take them and get them to help.

It's just, it's so crazy. But anyway, let's get back to the legislation, because let me steal man Newsom for a second and say, and you, you attack this, which is, well, what's Newsom's supposed to do? He's got this super majority in the Congress and the state legislature. And they're really the culprit here. And he really can't do anything. Any of the things we're asking him to do, he can't because they won't reverse the regulation. They won't hand them any legislature, any bills that have worth a damn.

So what's he supposed to do? All right. It's a great point, and it's central to what I hope to achieve when I'm the governor, because I will face the same situation. You know, have a well we do next year, you know, because they've gerrymandered the districts already. They have this supermajority in the legislature. And all the, I mean, we've talked about redistricting. They've already gerrymanded California.

This supermajority is not legitimate, but it's there, right? So we've got to accept it. Number one, he runs the executive branch. The governor controls the executive branch, all the agencies. When I'm on the road the whole time, I talk to businesses, families, and where's the pain? What are the stupid, ridiculous things that make everything so expensive, make your life a misery? Nearly all the time, it's one of these agencies. Carb, the California Air Resources Board.

That's the culprit for so much of the massive cost of everything in California, gas prices, electricity prices. All these hidden things that are coming out of carb, no one knows about it. I'll give you a couple of examples. VMT, vehicle miles traveled. It's basically a tax, the California Air Resources Board, puts on any project now since 2018. They calculate vehicle miles traveled. Like, that's a bad thing, that if you build a house or you expand your,

I talked to somebody who's a lovely business making artisan gin in central coast of California. He wanted to build a second still. They blocked it because it would increase vehicle miles traveled. Yes, that's what we call growth and progress. they actually put now money right they expanded the freeway the 405 down in orange county they charged one bit of the government charging the other bit of the government 400 million dollars money actual money our money to because you're increasing so that's coming out of the agency that's not the legislature the house the reason house prices is so high because you've got all of this

regulation or you know climate driven regulation that's making it so expensive to build anything and you can't build anywhere outside the current development footprint that increases the price of land. I mean, you can go on all day. So you can change that by changing the people in that agency. And they've appointed these climate fanatics to all these positions. Another one is oil and gas. The reason, we have plentiful oil and gas reserves in California,

but we used to produce most of the oil and gas we use right here in state. Now it's down to about 20%. We're importing 80%. Our number one source of oil right now, Iraq, right? We're shipping it in from halfway around the world on giant super tankers, spewing out carbon emissions. All of that crushing of our oil and gas industry in California comes from CalGEM. That's the agency that does that. You appoint new people.

You give them executive orders to issue permits for increasing production, and that's how you do it. He could be doing all of that. As governor, you have over 4,000 appointments to over 200 agencies. There's a lot you can do just through the executive. branch. On top of that, you can veto all this legislation, all this mad legislation. They're producing the thousands, literally thousands of bills. We're just coming to the end of the session in the legislation a couple of weeks. Then you get two weeks when Newsom signs the bills. He doesn't have to sign any of them. He can veto them. Now, they can overturn a veto with a two-thirds

majority, but that takes time. You can slow it all down. He doesn't stand up to them. He only challenges a few of them that he thinks are going to be bad for his presidential ambitions. You can also overturn legislation that is that violates the California Constitution. That's how I'm going to overturn biological boys in girls' sports, because that's against the California Constitution. So there's actually a lot of things you can do. I don't want to pretend I can waive a wand and do anything. Same applies to Newsom. He could be doing this. And finally, you're the leader for goodness sake. You're supposed to lead. He doesn't go down there and bang heads together and say, guys, we've got to do something about this problem. No, he's just pathetic. He's so useless. It's

just absolutely infuriating. Is he, I'm trying to figure out what's wrong. Is he lazy? Or do, like, people like Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom just see these positions as sort of ceremonial, sort of these sort of accolades they kind of collect and sit, sit, I don't know what they're doing. It doesn't seem like they're, I mean, you look at the current federal administration, it seems like things are happening every minute of every day. and all through the night.

And you compare that to this, and it's like, well, I thought he couldn't do anything because he's not doing anything. That's exactly the comparison I was just about to make. You're absolutely on the same page, Drew, which is that they're not results-focused,

pragmatic business-like people. They're machine politicians. All they care about is they think, I'll give you a couple of examples, right? It's a beautiful example. In a way, it's a small thing, but it illustrates the point. Karen Bass, I don't know if you spotted this,

few months ago, a couple of months ago now, she did this thing on permitting about four months after the fires. And she puts out the social media post, I remember this is exactly the words, said, from her account, I have just signed an executive order streamlining permitting to help rebuild LA. I remember that. Right. And okay, good, you know, four months late, but at least you've done it. It was above a video of her from the press conference. So, okay, I'll see what she said. You watch the, this is what she actually said. I have just signed an executive order

tasking agency heads with developing paths forward to streamlining permitting. Like nothing. Oh my God. Because this is what Adam gets so right. Corolla is their process people. They think that that is doing the thing. Like setting up a process, you know, asking a committee to do it

or instructing the program. And there's the contrast with Trump. So you look, I mean, and you saw it just this week in that Oval Office signing session. It's a perfect example where he's just going through things. And so I always said about Trump. He's not an ideologue. He's a problem-solving business guy. Here's the problem.

How are I fixed it? Builder. You know, have you done it? And actually, the final thing I'll say is that to, I get on with the president. You know, my stepfather was a builder. I spent my, you know, childhood on construction sites. when I, you know, one of the jobs that was the most formative for me back in the day in England, I was a project manager for a construction company.

And you go to the site and you have to say, is it done? If that's not done, that can't happen. Give me a straight answer. You know, you've got to be practical. And these people are just nothing like that. Right. And that's what it seems. Adam and I talk about this all the time.

Like, you know, when you're used to building things with your hands, and whatnot and you're part of a trade you you outcome is everything and and then there's sequences and orders and planning and budgets and you you get the results anything that gets in the way of the end point is a waste of time literally a waste of time but i think there's even another psychological thing in here and adam taught me about this too is that because his mom was very much cut from this cloth is they hate competition and they fear authority so if if they want to be loved by their constituency they dare not lead yes exactly it's exactly right and that's why they say all these things and they want to pander and they always want to get you know get you on side

and that's why they and as and newsom's a particular bad example this way he's just that's why you see him in these ridiculous all over the place on different you know just this year you know he starts the year oh i'm going to be a moderate i'm going to have republicans to have steve bannon on my show Charlie Kirk, I'm going to agree with him about this ideological stuff. And then the next minute, actually, that didn't work. Okay, I'm going to be the leading sort of anti-Trump. I mean, it's just because none of it means anything. It's just whatever pleases.

And right now, the only audience he cares about is the Democrat primary audience. And so the Charlie Kirk stuff didn't work. So now he's off attacking Trump and with this ridiculous gerrymandering. I mean, it's so interesting. And they always say about him, some people, you know, they describe him, you know, communist, socialist. He's not really anything. They're nothing, actually. There's nothing there. There's no

real belief other than their own political advancement. Yeah, I think that's exactly right. And it's and so many, the state is just there's so much evidence of how poorly the state's doing in terms of the number of people leaving. And as you mentioned all the data

that we have at our fingertips and yet it continues to deteriorate without any action from the people in charge. It's just so hard to understand how anybody, how the voters sit with it. But they get hoodwinked by him. I thought the same things of Trudeau in Canada, though. And they still, I kept asking Gad sad, you know, why? Why do they keep him in there? And Gad said to me, because he's dreamy. I thought, great, terrific. That's why you keep politicians in office. Well, we got to wrap up in a few

minutes here. What should we do? What's the process? One of the things that the former city attorney, you probably had contact with at Hinton Beach, Michael Gates, who's now second in command under Harvey Dillon, the Department of Justice, he pointed out to me, he goes, no matter what you do in California, the result is always 60% blue, no matter what you do. How do you overcome that? What's the plan? How can we help you? All right. Number one is it's changing, right? There's some really interesting data. First of all, the last November's results were pretty good in California in terms of progress, like 10 counties flipped from blue to red, including big ones, like Fresno County for the biggest city. But the really important stuff is there's some very under

the radar stuff going on. The guy called Shilow, Marks, people should follow him on X. Shiloh, we're working together. He's been diligently going to the counties and forcing them to clean up their voter rolls. And an amazing thing has happened. In the last year or so, over 2 million people have been removed from the voter rolls in active voters in California. It's a big change. And so I think that we're getting, and given that they, you know, that's how they, with all the mail-in voting that they do for everyone, you know, this is the really big change. So I think there's all sorts of ingredients here that I think there's a majority for change in California.

That's another important point. If you look at the polling, very consistently 60% or so say we're going in the wrong direction, Now, you may say, well, who the hell of the 40% who think we're going in the right direction? But whatever, it's a majority for change. And so I think it's all about next year, me being there with a really aggressive combination of how can you even think about

giving these people another four years after what they've done to our state and a positive, common sense, non-ideological, very pragmatic alternative that's just focused on lowering people's cost, you know, my plan for $3 gas, single family homes, cut your bills in half, simple things that will get, in particular, the formula I think is a little bit like you saw with Trump nationally, the working class, because they've been hammered the most here in California by these policies.

And I think that is really the focus of what I'm talking about, simple practical things to just make life easier and better for working people. I think I get where you're going, but I think you need to because there's a lack of trust by marginalized and underserved communities of the Republican Party, I think you have to go and market your case with very specific plans. Like Corolla had a great idea, which is we have this need to build like crazy in the palisades. Why don't we take all the kids that are economically distressed? There are no black kids out there on the construction sites because they don't get the training. Let's get them trained on the construction sites in real time.

They can be union members. They can be trade. They can have lifetime jobs. They can own their own businesses. There's things we can do. They don't trust, for some reason, people don't trust that these pragmatic solutions can help them. But those are the only things that will help them. How's it been going so far for you with these other guys in charge?

I really, funny off, I've been thinking exactly along those lines. I'm talking to Mike, you know, yes, yes, 100%. that's how we do it's really simple practical things that will just obviously resonate with people who just are sick of this how the really sad thing is I'm on the road the whole time we do hundreds of events thousands of people and I see it in their eyes whether they use this word or not the main thing I get from people is just what a struggle it is in California just to live to exist it's a it's a struggle everything such a struggle and that's what we need to Yeah. And you know what? New York City is very much the same way. It's a very, very similar tax structure and very similar circumstance.

When you live in New York City, you get so much back. You get parks and transportation and all kinds of things that work. Yes, it's impossible to live there, but they're giving you stuff back. Here you get rat blooms and typhus and plague and nothing. You get, and fire. You literally get nothing. That's the part thing. Because I've lived a lot of my time in both places.

I see the difference. One day I started thinking, why am I not disturbed about playing these New York taxes? Like, oh, because there's something here for me. They give me something. And everybody feels that way. Even though it's a struggle, you don't feel the desperation of, I'm struggling for what? Yes, this is the most beautiful state in the country. And we're all have roots here, and this is why we stay here.

But that's the only reason there ain't nothing good being done by the government. They're doing everything but governing. Steve, I appreciate you being here very much. We'll look forward to checking in with you again and seeing your progress. And I'm following Shiloh already. Very good. All right. Thank you, Drew. See you soon. Cheers. All right. Steve Hilton, good to see you too. All right. Coming up, we're going to talk to Jason Miller. Again, he is a former presidential advisor. We've got a lot to talk to him about, including things like flag burning and bricks and whatnot. There's a lot of weeds to dig through there.

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a strategist for Trump's three presidential campaigns. He has advised many U.S. political figures as well as global CEOs. You can follow him on X, Jason Miller, and also Jason Miller in D.C. Jason, welcome to the program. Thank you for having me. Appreciate you. So let's talk a little flag burning for a quick second. I'm not all on board with that. Tell me what the logic there is. I become, because of COVID, I've become a free speech absolutist. I've become a medical freedom person.

I become a free speech absolutist, much to my amazement. But I worry about restricting even speech like that. Well, there are a couple of things here. Number one, a lot of people might not realize that ever since there's a five to four decision back in 1989 that effectively allowed it as part of the First Amendment. But I think a lot of people would disagree. A lot of people would say that this is something that becomes hateful speech, just as the same way that you can't go into a theater and yell fire. There are other restrictions where people's First Amendment rights, when you start to infringe on others' rights, whether that be with regard to safety or security, that this is something that definitely should be looked at in a different sense.

There have been so many people who've fought and died on behalf of our flag. And in particular, when you look at the executive order that President Trump put forward, he also has to have. has in there that if you're someone who's here illegally, or if you're someone here who's not a citizen and you're burning an American flag, then that is definitely setting a precedent for someone who could then elevate that to more serious behavior.

And so that type of person should not be here in the United States. So ultimately this probably does end up, I would assume, back at the Supreme Court, where now it's in a different ratio. So I'd imagine there'd be a chance at overturning that. But this is such a cherished symbol of our country that I do think this is,

different than, say, for example, just saying something that is inappropriate or annoy somebody. Well, what I wonder is, you know, what makes me as uncomfortable as anything, is, as you said, the people that have fought and died under the flag are on behalf of the flag or carrying the flag. And sometimes I hear them say, well, that, those kinds of freedoms are what I was fighting for. Is there any consensus from the military?

If I heard a consensus from them, it would be easier as a, a civil, you know, to make it make a determination well i will tell you uh dr drew that having done so many various campaigns at the local state and even at the federal level for president trump is that this is something that typically comes in at about a 75% support level for outlong flag burning and so for the broader populace it's not even close it's like a three to one against flag burning so it's very clear and then uh with numbers i've seen with the military community it's even higher. So this is something that does have broad public support. And I think also to where we are, especially when you look at America's positioning versus the rest of the world, we've seen

the campus protest. We've seen the anti-Semitic protest in recent years, the last couple of years, particularly Columbia and schools like that, where people are sick and tired of seeing taxpayer dollars going to somehow subsidize people who are here, they're burning the American flag. So I do think this is a step in the right direction. Again, if you want to go and say that, you know, your knucklehead, you want to express whatever opinions, knock yourself out, but burning the symbol of the country, I think does take it to a different level that's unacceptable. Okay. I'm semi-sum persuaded, mostly persuaded. But you mentioned 25-75 issues. It does seem like President Trump has a nose for really 80-20 issues, and he goes at them hard. Is that you?

I hope that's a and by the way don't tell him I said 7525 he'll say that I discounted it he'll he'll have probably seen a poll that was more recent or more accurate and say Chase what are you doing this is an 80-20 or you know 99 to one issue he goes for the 80-20 stuff he goes out of hard he does and you know I think this is part of his what I would say just having to work to them for all three of his campaigns

it's a bit of his superpower and that he can cut through the nonsense and the sometimes political correctness or things that the media or people in society say that you can or can't say, or this is a political third rail that you're not supposed to go to. And he really has that sense of listening to regular people. You know, if you're kind of the professional class or the consultant class or someone who's a so-called expert, he would much rather hear from someone who's just a regular everyday person off the street than probably you. And I think also that's part of the reason why he wants to hear

from, say, in the business world, the economy, from CEOs. He wants to hear people that are actually running companies as opposed to, say, the bureaucrats and folks on Capitol Hill. So being able to really drill down and do that, and by the way, Dr. Drew, let's go back to when he came down the Golden Escalator in 2015 and said, we're going to build a wall. And all of the mainstream media completely melted down. And oh, my gosh, what is he saying? This is going to be something terrible. And guess what?

It helped him get elected to the presidency twice. Yeah. You mentioned consulting with business leaders. he's now going so far as to invest in businesses, right? He's taking, I think, as much as a 10% position in some, I think he took Intel in or something, something like that. And my question is, how does he defend? And by the way, I don't believe this is a viable argument,

but I'm sure he has to defend himself, against the notion that fascism at its core is business and government uniting as a single sort of coalition. How does he fight that notion back? Yeah, so a couple things I want to go and unpack there and make sure people understand why the president has this position and where he's taken, say, with Intel, of course, the chipmaker, for example, there are a number of the sensitive sectors where we no longer make certain things here in the yes, or we have very limited abilities of where we can do it on a road. So say, for example, chips and Intel, or you talk about, say, aircraft and obviously we have Boeing. They're the big players that are here. So you have some of these industries where we have very limited options. options, but we have to make sure that we protect what we do have. Otherwise, we're seating everything to, whether it be a TSMC when it goes to the chip makers, or maybe we're seating it to Airbus when it comes to airplanes. And so if the government is going to go

and determine that we have to protect this particular sector, then you know what? If we're going to do that, then we may as well make sure that the American people are making money on that. And that's all not just necessarily going to, back to the company. And I'd say the suits there and kind of the elites that are running it, if we're going to go and put government skin in the game, let's make sure that the people get something back at this. And there's, you know, one of the interesting things, especially I'm doing a lot of the international business side,

we have a thing called the Development Finance Corp, the DFC, which most regular people are, this is just some acronym they've never heard of. But what this is, you take projects like the libido corridor in Africa where they've actually built it, they're building a row line to get out to the western coast of Africa so we get these critical minerals and things of that nature out to the Atlantic so then that can be shipped to the United States as opposed to going to the East Coast where it would go to Asia. When the DFC, which is an aspect of the government, when they go invest in these, whether it be a multinational project or whether it be a private public partnership,

they're making sure that American taxpayers see a benefit from that. So it's a new mindset. It's a new mentality of making sure that Americans aren't just footing the bill with their tax dollars, but they're getting something back into the Treasury as a result. And I know it's a little bit of long-witted answer, but it's important to understand. They shouldn't just be the people who are working nine to five and shipping their money off to D.C. that don't, see that money go in a one direction. If we're going to go and spend it, it needs to be an investment and not a gift. I think the way to think of it is if you're going to put skin in the game, you get to participate in the profits. Pretty simple.

And I think taxpayers should understand that's good. As opposed to in the EU, Airbus is a European enterprise. I mean, it's a government enterprise, and they have their hand on the scale, making it that much harder for Boeing to compete. It's unfair. They're not, this government, a U.S. government is not doing anything like that. No, and you make a really good point there. This is why you hear President Trump talk about non-tariff barriers.

And I realize a lot of people are not tariff barriers. I thought it was just, we charge them one thing, they charge us, but when you have these effectively state-owned enterprises or state-run enterprises, these aren't necessarily free-market enterprises, like when you talk about Airbus, for example. Airbus is literally a wing of the French government. I mean, that's what it is. And so when we go and put a free market company, say, such as a Boeing versus an Airbus, it's not a level playing field.

And so you said it even better, and so Dr. Drew, we got to get you, and there's a spokesperson at the administration. But if the government, if the American taxpayers are going to go put skin in the game, they should be able to see some of that coming back. Yeah, exactly. It just makes cool sense. And you're not taking a big enough position that you would have any sort of control. We're not looking for control.

That would be fascism, it seems to me. But again, you know, I always worry about future generations or future administrations coming in and doing that. But that's another issue. Tell me about, I've got a few other questions. What's going on with Bricks? What's going on with Brazil? Yeah, so Brazil, this is one where very passionate for me. I'm someone who's close with the family of former president Bolsonaro,

and particularly his son, Eduardo Bolsonaro. So what's happened in Brazil, and this is so unique and different from other areas of the world, you have a Supreme Court there, but don't think of like Justice Roberts and Sonia Sotomayor. Think of in Brazil, the Supreme Court, A, they have their own investigative force, they have their own secret police they can go and charge you themselves the supreme court not some their version of a doj or prosecutor where the supreme court can charge you with a crime try you with

a crime find you guilty of something and then lock you up and throw away the key and then dr drew who do you appeal to they're the supreme court there's no way nowhere to go so going back for i've uh i've heard of we've heard of other examples of this in history we call it the spanish inquisition isn't it exactly the same? Although I think probably the Spanish Inquisition was probably in many cases a little bit more fair because they're doing some pretty dirty things in Brazil. It probably was a very reasoned body. People don't know that. They were very, very, they tried to be very reasoned. They were not politically motivated. They had their own motivations. But anyway, yes, so in 20, so in 2021, I visited Brazil at the invitation of former president Bolsonaro and his son Eduardo, who was a federal deputy,

as well as CPAC in Brazil and gave a speech, actually talking about free speech and democracy. And again, this is while President Bolsonaro was in office. And a great several days and a lot of proud patriots and it was great to actually kind of meet the Trump of the Tropics, as they call him, in his family and his extended supporters. And as I was going to the airport, then there was someone who met us and said, oh, Mr. Miller, please follow us. And I was like, oh, wow, they're rolling out the red carpet for me. And except they started walking toward a room a room that said, Poli. day. And I was like, uh-oh, we're not in Kansas anymore. And I was like, so what's going on? They said, well, we want to ask you, Mr. Miller, a couple of questions about two secret

investigations. And I go, well, two secret investigations into what? And they said, well, they're secret. We can't tell you. And it went downhill from there. They basically detained me for most of the afternoon, uh, try to give me a 50-page document in Portuguese to sign saying, you can leave and go back to the United States. If you simply sign this document, well, first of all, it's just, it's total nonsense. But finally, President, Bolsonaro sent me an attorney, someone to get me out. It realized that all they were trying to do is cause political problems. But the member of the Supreme Court who did that, a gentleman named Alexander DeMorize,

is now the exact same Supreme Court justice who is charging President Bolsonaro with something that would put him in prison for the next 35 years, and they've completely turned Brazil on its head. And so what President Trump is trying to do is say, look, if you're going to go run these undemocratic activities, whether it be. some completely false nonsense. They're going after President Bolsonaro on. Or by the way, this same judge, they kicked off true social out of Brazil. Rumble is now banned out of Brazil. X, the former Twitter that, of course, Elon Musk is now running, was kicked out of Brazil for a long time. And so I know people, Dr. Drew, that I've spoken with and met with and people I've known for a long

time that have been pulled out of their house in the middle of night, who've been roughed up by the secret police who have their finances frozen and there's no one to appeal to all the while and here's why it matters and i'm going to land the plane here why this matters is because what the supreme court is doing in brazil is making opposition to the current leader president lula virtually impossible they're trying to lock up anyone uh who they disagree with simply uh just because they're different political perspective so to combat that uh brazil's congress is meeting tomorrow to pass immunity law to make sure that members of Congress cannot be charged by the Supreme Court simply for doing their job. What they can then do is then go and take certain actions that

right now they've been afraid to do because it's been said from the Supreme Court. If you get out of line, if you say something that differs with their ideology, then they'll just come in, walk you up and throw away the key. While this is happening, the reason why this is important is because now China and the CCP have massively grown their influence in Brazil. That affects America. that affects everything that we're doing in the Western Hemisphere. And so this Supreme Court justice, Alexander DeMorized, the same one who detained me, the same one who's wanting to throw President Bolsonaro in prison for 35 years,

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I mentioned the CCP. I understand there's some evidence that they're on the move in Manhattan. They're trying to manipulate things there. Tell me about that. Yeah. So this is really scary. New York Post had a really good story and also a number of the other outlets have as well. Even the New York Times has covered this one.

But the fact of the matter is that the local Chinese Communist Party consulate is, they're trying to influence local elections. And so if you don't go along with what the CCP wants to do, whether it be a city council race or something else at the mayoral or local level, then they effectively sick the dogs after you and go and try to whip people up and use disinformation and things like that. So for all of the, and I want to get way down the rabbit hole on previous elections here, but when we talk about real outside foreign manipulation of U.S. elections,

we're not always just talking about the presidency. If you're a foreign government and you're trying to go in and manipulate what's happening even in a local election, even in New York City, then that is wrong, and we should be calling it out. But the fact of the matter is that I've heard enough stories to be scared about the Chinese influence at the local level in New York and other places. These guys are playing for keep, Dr. Drew, they're playing for keeps. Yeah, I found myself thinking about that in recent months.

And I kind of was thinking that the line between the Chinese citizen and a Chinese spy seems pretty blurry to me when they come over here. You know what I mean? Is that, am I getting that right? Is everybody essentially a spy that comes from China here? No, I wouldn't say that, but I would say that that is the sentiment that I think the CCP actually wants us to think, wants us to think that if you are someone who's of Chinese origin and you're here in the United States, that you're responsible still to the CCP, not to the United States, whether you're a citizen or permanent resident or things of that nature. That's why the fear in the intimidation factor comes into play, because obviously a lot of people who've moved here to the United States from other. countries such as China, they still have family back home, that people who they worry about being at risk that if they don't do the right thing that supports the Chinese government, the CCP here

in the United States, their family members back home could be at risk. But it's just, it boggles my mind that so many in the media, especially New York would turn a blind eye or just like, ah, it's not that big of a deal. It's just Chinese nationals who are threatening American citizens into how they should vote or how they should behave in the electoral setting. That's just that's just wrong. That is scary and we got to make sure that we put an end to that right away. You know, it just occurred to me, I got so many more questions for you, but it just occurred to me that you're, you know, deep enough in there that I'd be curious. I'm, and just, I need your advice. I'm trying, if you have an opinion, I'm trying to determine, let me frame it

in a way that's comical, whether or not I should make my new lexicon for, for my, website a hatchet and a machete because maybe it may be a saltire flag i don't know if you've seen what happened in scotland today are i am i saying something you don't know anything about i didn't see what happened today in scotland uh but uh it sounds like i missed something big so there's a very very viral video of a young well here she is wildling essentially she's a Scottish, young Scottish. Why are you fucking cat bashers? So, so don't know.

Soldenoy. Get two fuck away from our home. Don't touch you up on me. Don't whatever you want to me. Riffie, get my love to start. So don't know. That's it. Don't fucking touch my life.

I don't say what she had to fucking dwell. We're talking. She has fucking dwell when you just badgers me, me. I see Caleb, you're risking us getting a demonetizer or cancel or getting a ding today from YouTube. I appreciate you doing so because that video went absolutely internationally wild today because apparently that 12-year-old girl, well, I'm trying to figure out is what's the truth here. Is that a young person who was out of control with weapons or was that a girl defending herself as is alleged against these repeated attackers that finally they'd had enough? with and these two sisters went out 12 and 14 or something and tried to defend themselves and so

the the hatchet and the machete has become an insignia that's a meme if you will that's going around like crazy so no when you have information you let me know I will do I'll go Google it right away but I'd miss that one earlier I just I don't can't it's hard to get to the truth but the other thing I was wondering is how do you get into this work where do you come from what's your background How did you end up here? Great question. So I came from the conservative hotbed of Seattle, where I think I was the only person

who ever is considered themselves conservative that came from Seattle. And at an early age, to use the lexicon of the left, I realized that I did not identify as a liberal or someone from Seattle. So as soon as I was able to graduate and move away, I did exactly that. But went and worked for a short time on Capitol Hill

and quickly realized that's where good minds go to die. And so I decided I was going to go and help get more Republicans elected and spent a little more in a decade doing that. And California Republican Daryl Issa was actually my first campaign that I did for him back in 1998, his Senate race. And then over time, ended up helping President Trump with all three of his campaigns. And to really go and put it in reverse and say, everyone, when I think they're younger in their reformative years, they say, boy, I like to go and try to make a difference at some point in life. And I did that and I would like to think that was an important part of very helpful to getting President Trump into the White House not just once but twice. And so it goes to show you that you can make a difference if you want to dive in and work really hard for little pay and eat lots of fast food. And then eventually something good comes from it.

When you were living in Seattle, would you have called yourself conservative? Oh, no, not at all. And I didn't come from a political family. My father is a welder. But I mean, people are being accused of being conservative now who eight years ago would have said I'm liberal. It's just this weird shift that's happened. I imagine you'd be like that. The other thing I would imagine that you would have been a prime candidate for a chief of staff or at least a staffer, did you do that for a while?

I did do that on Capitol Hill as a chief of staffer, a member of Congress for several years. And I actually enjoyed when I went to be a chief of staffer, former congressman from Orlando, Florida, really enjoyed it. It's one of those where it's a lot of fun, but when it's just you're one of 435 there in the House, it's a little tougher to make a difference. But when it goes up to the level of the presidency and you have someone say with President Trump, who is this transformative figure that can go in and change so many things, just even the executive order on flag burning we talked about earlier with a single stroke of a pen, then you realize this is where we're going to change. where he can really make the difference. And actually, I'll tell you one person who, again, this is going back about a little more than 25, boy, I'm getting old. I guess it was like 27 years, but I actually had a conversation with Carl Rove back in 1998 and asked him about campaigns and about possibly working for George W. Bush on his 2000 presidential race. And after about five

minutes to listen to me, maybe because he wanted to get off the phone or maybe he thought that I had some potential. He said, you know what? I can get you a job on Governor Bush's campaign and you can move to Austin, sleep on someone's couch and they'll give you a thousand bucks a month and you'll be happy and then maybe if we win, you go to the White House and you can stuff envelopes. He's like, you know what, go out there, win some races at different levels, get some experience and take the talent that you have to go and try to get someone elected to the White House you think can make a difference to be a transformative figure. And I took that advice and followed it. And about 20 years after that conversation, I met up with President Trump and helped him with his first campaign.

And so it goes to show you that if you work hard enough, you dedicate yourself to something that you can make a difference. And I'll tell you, Dr. Drew, is shortly after President Trump's most recent inauguration, I had a random person come up to me on the street in D.C. and just say, thank you, man. And the guy gave me a big hug. And usually in D.C. when someone comes up and gives you a hug, you start grabbing your wallet to make sure that you're okay. Yeah, your weapon. And he said, you know what, I was someone who was detained following J6, and they basically locked me up and thrown away the key. And he said, if President Trump hadn't won, I probably would have spent the rest of my life being locked up,

literally for just being the wrong place at the wrong time. And I think that you made, you don't realize this, Jason, but you made such a difference in my life. And he gave me a big hug. And he goes, thanks, man. I really appreciate you. Just sometimes you don't realize just how much that one individual person can help a big, broader cause. no i i'm i'm sure i'm surprised you don't get more of that and and stuff on the other side too as part of being in politics i guess but um some of the people no one's ever visited a congressional

office or a senator's office they wouldn't necessarily know what i'm about to say which is some of the smartest people i have ever met our chief of staff positions in various and also not some good i've seen some not so good ones too but also some of the smartest people I've ever met for people that were in chief of depositions in legislative offices. It's like remarkable. We're like taking in so much and doing so much. So thank you for that too.

I appreciate what a huge job that is. Thank you. Appreciate it. So Caleb, you say you may have met Jason as a child since you were hanging around the Bush campaigns in Texas? He just mentioned that he was working with the George W. Bush campaigns in Texas.

I was from a homeschool family and as you likely know, the homeschool families were very active in that election we had we spent part of our homeschooling days actually going down to the campaign offices stuffing envelopes making phone calls when I was like 12, 13 I forget how old I was then

five of us a whole big homeschool family coming down I've probably met you in my head so many campaign events we went to it was so funny working with that campaign when I was a kid that's what really got me interested in politics is just being involved as a child and just seeing how it all worked and meeting everybody oh interesting

interesting well it's I tell you homeschoolers are some of the best volunteers I've had in all the campaigns over the years and you just love it I mean the kids are so respectful and kind and it's a family activity and everybody kind of rolls up their sleeves

and whether he's getting out there knocking on doors or making phone calls so it's that is the one thing I love about the particularly with campaigns with the presidential and the primary process when you're going to the Iowa caucuses the New Hampshire primary, and you kind of get back to the roots of putting up the yard signs and knocking on doors and talking to people and realizing you have to go and earn it every

single vote one by one. And that's great. That's what makes America so different from other countries. I'm sure Trump appreciates that. Susan, you laughed out loud about something. Do you want to share with us? I'm like the teacher in the room. What? The homeschoolers being so cute. Oh, is that what you were laughing at? So, so there was some news this morning breaking that the pentagonal building that we have outside of, I guess it's in Arlington, might change its name from the Pentagon to the Department of War like it used to be called when it was in the executive building. Why not the Department of Defense? The Department of War feels like Army, and it's more than just the Army, but you tell me. You know what? So this

is one that caught me off guard. I was listening to the President's remarks, as I normally do if I'm not they're with them or if I'm watching on my phone. And when he said that, I kind of like said, it surprised me. It wasn't something I was tracking that was coming up. And the first thing I thought was, you know what? This really makes

people realize the seriousness of it. And Dr. Drew, I tell you, in modern place in Washington, I think a lot of people, too many people, take a look at the Pentagon and they think of it is, this is just one big bureaucracy. And I think that's what President Trump

Secretary Hegseth and others are trying to do, say, hey, guys, this is not some big contractor procurement machine. This is not some big bureaucracy that's part of the, that's supposed to be how we're going to generate GDP and grow the American workforce. That is there to protect our country and when needed to use war to keep us safe. And when you think about it as a department of war, you realize that's a much more serious connotation. Yeah. than just saying of defense. And also, too, it puts us in very much more is a forward footing that says we are not messing around.

We are about business. And again, war and fighting and anything like that should always be the absolute last thing that we go to. And by the way, of course, with President Trump, he's no new wars, it's only happened in the four years in between. And so as I thought about it more and more, it does make you think about it a lot more serious and that there's, especially with the storied history

of what is currently a department of defense. But I like it. It took me a bit to kind of think about it, but even saying the Department of War, it's a lot more serious. Yeah. I want to drill on that again, because you're kind of tilting at it,

which is that there's a, you say, a storied history, and this Department of War connects it more to that history, right? And I think, wasn't it, it was still a Secretary of War, right? Wasn't that the Secretary of Defense back then? Is that how that worked? Yeah.

And a lot of people don't know that, for instance, one of the very well thought of Secretaries of War was President Abraham Lincoln's eldest son, Robert. And I think you may have been one of the last ones in the certain part of the executive building or something. I was trying to remember that history. But it sort of connects us more to that history, it seems to me. Well, yeah, and you look at every major conflict

that the country has ever had, and no one's ever said. Do you remember the great work by the bureaucrats to defeat the Nazis and defeat the, the axis power. So they know, it was our ability to not only defend the United States, but to go and fight the people who want to go and destroy our country and put us in harm's way. And so I just think even just the framing of it, the Department of War, it sounds so much more serious. And it keeps the focus where it is, because again, war should be the absolute last result for any of this. And when you say defense, I think there are too many people,

especially in Washington, and just say, this is where we can go and try to suck money out. out of, or this is where I can maybe go get a job to make more money. Or it puts it in the right perspective, because that is as serious as it gets. Interesting. And, you know, I just finished a 900-page, you know, effort on George Marshall. And I found myself thinking a lot, I just happened to be thinking a lot about these things. And in particular, how would we handle what he was dealing with now? It's just, I don't think we, I don't, I hope we're up for it.

Because, boy, when you start to look at the complexities, and how quickly things were changing. And it's complicated. And we need to be on our toes for sure. Speaking of that, back to the 80-20 issues, when I saw some of the hysterics outside of the Congress building, the Capitol building about troops in Washington, I heard some of them saying,

they could send troops to yours house. He could send trips into your city. I'm like, please, please, we send them to Los Angeles. You've sent them here once, Send them again and give them more privilege. Please send them here. But there is talk of going to Chicago. How does he pull that off?

I don't know that he has, does he have the right to do that? Well, so this is where we're going to have a little bit of the rub, so to speak. And keep mind, a lot of this, Dr. Drew, came up back in 2020, and when we're talking about protests in Portland and other places like that. Typically, you have the governors of the state who'll go and say that this is okay. Obviously, we're seeing resistance from J.B. Pritzker in Illinois. but as someone who has lived in Southern California, someone who's lived in right downtown in Chicago,

someone who's lived in downtown Washington, D.C., I can hear there's so many urban centers where people just don't feel safe. In fact, yesterday, just yesterday, I came back to Union Station, Washington, D.C. from New York. And when I was at Penn Station of Moynihan Hall in New York City, they're just, they're homeless everywhere, there are people coming up with, you know,

they might be missing a shirt and yelling and screaming at the top of their lungs, reeking of marijuana. You're like, okay, this is a little sketchy. This could get sideways pretty quick. But when I got into Union Station yesterday, I realized like, wait a minute, I saw a couple of National Guardsmen who are there. And again, being very respectful and they were chatting with people and being observant. It was so peaceful. There were no issues. It was probably the, I can't remember another time I went to Union Station in D.C. and wasn't dodging some, whether it be a crazed homeless person or someone who clearly was up to no good.

And by the way, what are we at now? Over a week, week and a half with no murders in Washington, D.C. I mean, this is getting results. And by the way, this is what Americans voted for. Americans voted for a government's actually going to go and keep people safe. There's always excuses, Dr. Drew of P. of Y. Well, we can't go and crack down on the criminals. We can't go and hold them accountable.

And a lot of it in a way, keep mind when Rudy Giuliani took over as mayor, going back to 1993 in New York City, implemented the broken windows theory of going in and making sure they would prosecute the small things so then people don't graduate up to much more serious crimes. That's how he was able to turn New York City around. But I think having this extra layer of security puts the bad guys on notice in Washington, D.C.

And Dr. Drew, you probably know a lot of people in Chicago, just like I do, that Michigan Ave used to be the crown jewel where people would go for shopping and entertainment, things of that nature. you have a bunch of boarded up businesses. A front of mine had to shut down her clothing business because the smash and grabs were coming through and causing such chaos.

And so this is a good thing. And by the like as you set it up, it's an 80-20. It's an 80-20, but how does he do it? I see where he has absolute privilege over D.C. I see where he has absolute privilege over the federal buildings here in Los Angeles. But is it just that standing their ground just being president in federal buildings?

or can they jump in if the PD asked them? I don't understand what the constitutional issues are there. Yeah, so a couple of the issues, of course, you're going to have to have, if you're not having support from the local governor or the local municipality, because obviously the state of Chicago or Los Angeles are going to be different situations.

But in cases where you have emergencies, there are temporary authorizations where the president can go and deploy national guardsmen. Without the governor or without the government, governor or mayor asking them in? If there's an emergency, the president has a lot of latitude on what he can do when it's again, any case of an emergency. And so that's where I think some of the debate will come.

But I think this is a good debate to have. I think people want a responsive government. And by the way, you know this as well, too, that the local police, they want to be able to go to prosecute things. They want to go and be able to hold people accountable and do their job. but it's essentially the, whether it be the administrators or the bureaucrats, they're saying, no, you can't do your job, you got to let them go. And by the way, when President Trump tells that anecdote about how you can steal something

in California up to what is it, $900. And so there's the kind of his joke about going to the register and like, wait a minute, this is, you know, $911, put something back so we don't, so we only steal $890 worth of things. That's a real thing. Yes, that's a real thing. That's Los Angeles. Yeah. And then if they get caught, they get a misdemeanor or just a ticket. And, of course, they tear it up. And the cops didn't even give the tickets anymore because they know they're just going to be torn up. But what was I going to say? I had something kind of interesting to say about that. Aging brain. I lose my train at least once a show. Well, so what is ahead? What's coming up? What's on your radar? What's in your crosshairs right now? Yeah. So a couple of the big things, of course, for President Trump, what he's focused on obviously trying to stop the killing.

um in ukraine uh with russia and ukraine going at it uh that's complicated that's a tough one are you involved in that stuff are you there when this is all being negotiated because that to me seems like hot hot matter like lava yeah so that that's that's so they're there are folks have a little bit more expertise in this one uh than me and so i'm not someone who's pulled in uh on that but obviously speak with the president his team quite a bit about what they're doing and obviously understanding that the president's goals but um but helping to bring about peace obviously on the broader trade negotiations with China and with other countries. The China one is very important because obviously they're threatening to withholds critical minerals

and magnets and things of that nature. And so you see kind of the clash of the Titans that's emerging as we look at kind of the longer term economic competition. We want to make sure we keep it just an economic competition. But also I think there's some very cool things that the president has coming up, including the World Cup coming to the U.S. this next year in 2026 and, of course, the Olympics in in 2028, which will be right there in Los Angeles. So I'm very excited to be participating in some of those. It is an observer. Obviously, I'm not, I'm a little past my prime as far as in

the, yeah. You're not going to be throwing a javelin or anything? Yeah, no, I think I think I'd get, I'd get crushed even in the women's weightlifting division for sure. So I wouldn't make for, I would, I wouldn't make for a very good story. If you identify, in this state, it's going to be in California. If you identify, I don't know, they override the Olympic rules. But in any event, I do remember what I wanted to say, which was that I was a, I'm very moderate and I was a libertarian. And so when the Patriot Act came along, I was like, nah, fine, no problem. What do I have to hide?

I got, I learned a lesson from that. And then I learned it even harder when COVID lockdowns happened and the potential overreach of our government. And so when he started sending troops for an emergency, I worry that someone's going to, you know, God knows what the next respiratory virus is going to be an emergency and all of a sudden we're going to have troops in our cities. I worry about the precedent unless they really set some very specific guidelines for an emergency is. Yeah. And so a couple things to unpack. They're number one, when you talk about the Patriot Act in the aftermath of 9-11, and by the way, I tell you, I had the exact same thought. like, well, you know what, this is, it seems like a bit of an infringement, but we just had 9-11,

and so we got to take some serious action here, it'll be okay. And as we saw, I mean, the gross abuses of power, I mean, let's go back to the 2016 election where essentially they used abuse of FISA warrants to go and try to get General Flynn and others wrapped up. And that's what started the whole Russia, Russia, Russia nonsense. And so I've seen it firsthand. And that's where I think that some of our, some of the people that President Trump has picked for the administration, or it'll be Tulsi Gabbard and some others, I think, are spot on. There needs to be continued reforms when it comes to FISA and the Patriot Act and what's obviously now evolved from the Patriot Act as well.

But no, I think you make a very valid point. I would completely agree that there do need to be, if you're sending someone in for an emergency, that does not become then a permanent emergency. So I would completely agree with you on that. And at the same time, I think we can do both. I think we can go in there. For example, we're not going to have the National Guard in Washington, D.C., indefinitely, I think this is going to be for a short stretch and make sure we get things reoriented.

But I think you make a very, very important point. And I think a lot of people would agree with what both of us are saying. I think we've run the cycle here. Let's see if I had anything else I wanted to talk to you about. I appreciate spending time with us. Oh, Mom Donnie is on the radar here a little bit. Any, is that you guys have a plan for that? Is that just what's going to happen?

We're going to have to do that to New York City? Or what do you think about that? Yeah, well, thank you for bailing me out in presenting at least one person who I could bench press more than, which would be Mom Donnie, which there is a, you know, I tell you, do not get out there and try to lift weights in public unless you know what you're in for. I mean, I think he had all about 65 pounds between the bar and the weights on the end, and he couldn't even get it off his chest. And the spotting. With the spotting. I mean, that was like a curl workout for the guy who's doing the spotting.

Here's the thing I'm Donnie. I know a lot of us like to kind of laugh and joke. And obviously, this guy's a complete fraudster. And we don't want government-run grocery stores. And you can't have literally, hey, everybody's going to have a house that they didn't pay for. Like, okay, this is New York City. What are you going to do? But there are, as much as this would be problematic for the Democrat Party nationally,

because then everyone would be held to the standard of having an answer for crazy things that Mom Dani is doing. I love New York. I've had the opportunity to live in New York. for it's a great city to go and visit full of great people. And when you realize the destruction and the craziness that he could bring and what that could do to really kind of our financial center, it could really cripple the city and have a shock wave that goes through the entire country. So his election, I think, is a real problem. I don't, unless some people drop out over the next couple of days, I think they have until maybe next Tuesday or Wednesday or something

like that. I think it's this next week to get off the ballot, then it probably diffuses the anti-mom vote. This one is scary. It could really impact the entire country. Okay. Well, Jason, thank you for joining us. I'm getting dragged out for dragged out. We're getting invited to another Maha event. I'd love to meet you in person when we're out there. Well, I mean, it's hard to get to Washington, see. It's not that easy from California. No, I appreciate it. I will get out there for one of these things. And I would love to meet you and shake your hand. And I've been a fan. I've been a fan since the K-Rock days. So I've been listening to you for a long, long time, and I'd be an honor to meet you. You do live, you did live in Southern California. All right, my friend, thank you so

much, Jason. Appreciate it. Jason Miller on X. Thank you. Cheers. So I want to address one quick thing that's coming up on the restream here. People are freaking out in totally inappropriate ways over President Trump's capillary fragility syndrome on his hands and forearms. Okay? I'm going to show you my forearms one of these days. Susan, what happens to my forearms? You get red marks everywhere. If you just bang into a door.

If I touch something. First of all, I'm on aspirin, which most guys my age are. Secondly, I have capillary fragility on the forearms and hands typically because of sun exposure. It destroys the small capillaries. So the slightest little thing causes bruising. That's what people are freaking out about. That is absolutely every man his age. Is that from shaking hands?

It could be. It could be. If I were as busy as he would, I would have that. I would have that shit all over my hands. Imagine if somebody were really big hands came up and shook your hand. Or it could be just somebody going like that, you know, on top of. Maybe I'll have one tomorrow just from doing that. But it is, I understand you're not 75 years old, so you don't know what that looks like.

But I'm a physician. I'm here to tell you that is a UV-induced capillary fragility syndrome, probably worsened by aspirin therapy. Yeah, and he's a golfer, so he has that. He's out of the sun. And so stop it, everybody. Just stop it. It is so ubiquitous, particularly if you've lived in sun areas, such as Florida or Southern California, literally everybody is lucky enough to live long enough gets that stuff.

Nobody noticed when Biden was a hot mess, but they noticed Trump's hand. What's that, Susan? Could it be something just as simple as he's getting an infusion, some sort of, you know, like I used to get iron infusions years ago, and then my hand would bruise a little bit. Yeah. If he were a young person, I would assume it was a blood drawer and infusion. But for older men in particular, we all have that.

It's just, we just have it. It's what we get. Some of us worse than others. It's just what happens. Stop bragging. Yeah, it's, look at anybody that's like, look at anybody that's been a golfer or been at the beach a lot. look at their forearms and

how come I don't have that you are a superior you are a superior genetic specimen I keep telling you that and you don't you don't fatty 15 you don't take that in the manner which it's meant but you know with NR

and fatty also but in our in particular you do get faster healing hair growth faster healing that kind of stuff and I had the opportunity for health uncensored which is a show you guys all to check out it's going to be on lifetime next month I interviewed the guy that invented nicotinamide rivicide.

He was from the, he's the true niogen group, and he went at it, and he is the world's expert on that product, and we had a brief little conversation about it, and one of the things he said is that your hair will grow faster, your wounds will heal quicker. And I thought that was my carnivore diet

that was doing that, but I wondered why it kind of continued because I've been taking the N-R. So that's why that happens. So there you have it. Caleb, anything else on your mind? That was kind of interesting, a couple of conversations, was it not?

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Very interesting, guys. I just wanted to introduce our new executive producer. This is Presley. She put on the headphones, and she says, Dr. Drew, Dr. Drew. I think I liked it or I participated with it or something. I put it on my Instagram. I don't really know what I'm doing with so many of these social media things. I just push, yes, essentially.

All right. So with that, let's look up the schedule coming up. We have lots of interesting guests this week. We've got from SAMHSA, we've got Art Klingschmidt coming in. We have Andrew Gould on Thursday with Art Klemschmidt and Anthony Brown, who is, again, recovering addict from doing great work in Ohio. Simon Guttick, he's the, is he a physician or just a scientist? I forget. PhD, who moved, he went off the grid.

Susan, we met him at Elijah's studio in Florida. I don't know what he was doing there, but he was there. Sorry, I was. Simon, the guy we met in Elijah's studio in Florida last time. You forget. He was the guy who lives off the grid in South America. Oh, yeah, yeah. And then, Susan, Simone and George Papadopoulos coming in.

You've been waiting for this moment. We haven't seen them in a long time. And I'm so curious. The reason I wanted them in here is I want to get their perspective on what they went through, given now what we know as a result of Tulsi Gabbard's investigation. Because they were saying, back when we talked to them, what was it three, four years ago? It was even five or six years ago. They were just saying that this was trumped up. Something was going on and that they were ensnared in this thing. And poor Simone, who is a very heavy

Italian accent. They kept accusing her of being a Russian spy. And if you were going to cast a Russian spy in the movie, you'd cast her. And her Italian accent sounds Russian, if you think about it. Salty Cracker come in. Roseanne has rescheduled a couple times. I think that's going to stick there. Zach Levi and Batia Ungar Sargon, if you saw her on Bill Marshow.

So we got a lot coming up. Stay tuned. We'll be here. And Emily said that Kira woman you requested and may come. The French woman? Yes. I don't know. Who did you?

Apparently, I believe it was news in just a few hours ago. Bacha is going to have a new show on News Nation. She's going to be a weekend host of a brand new show called Bacha. That'll be interesting. Perfect. I'll go do that. I'll go do that show. Perfect.

She's very interesting. She did a good job on CNN recently too. But I will, what did you say, Susan? Then we have what coming up? Kira? Kira. I think you're talking about DuPont, right? I also requested a bunch of things today for poor Emily.

Emily, I'm trying to get Camille Paglia. I'm trying to do all kinds of interesting things. Drew was sick on the weekend, so he was doom scrolling on his phone. I was sick. For guests. I don't know who he's talking about. So I'm looking at your guys restream before I sign out. Just give me one second.

We had 10,000 people on X. Thank you for watching. We really appreciate it. Putin shook his hand hard. That's where you got the brews. That's really funny. Yeah, blame it on Putin. It's Russia, Russia, Russia.

Somehow it's Russia. All right, that's about it. We will see you tomorrow at 2 o'clock. Appreciate to be in here. Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Caleb Nation and Susan Pinsky. As a reminder, the discussions here are not a substitute for medical care, diagnosis, or treatment. This show is intended for educational and informational purposes only. I am a licensed physician, but I am not a replacement for your personal doctor

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