Ask Dr. Drew - Jillian Michaels: Why Trump Wasn’t Her “First Choice” But His SuperTicket of Tulsi, RFK, Vivek, Elon Won Her Vote & Support of Latinos & Ex-Liberals + Drea De Matteo – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 421

Episode Date: November 9, 2024

Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Tulsi Gabbard, Vivek Ramaswamy, JD Vance, Elon Musk. Eric Weinstein called them Trump’s SuperTicket: his circle of former opponents who set aside their differences, unified under the same banner, and invited their followers to do the same. The strategy worked, winning votes of many who weren’t typically MAGA – including fitness superstar Jillian Michaels, who says Trump wasn’t her “first choice” but she ultimately voted for him “because I believe in this person so much: Tulsi [Gabbard].” Jillian Michaels is a fitness expert, entrepreneur, and media personality. She created The Fitness App, winning best-of awards from both Google and Apple. Michaels has authored 8 New York Times best-selling books and hosts the Apple award-winning podcast ‘Keeping It Real.’ A certified trainer with NESTA, CanFitPro, AFAA, and Kettlebell Concepts, she holds a black belt in Muay Thai and Akauri-Do. She’s developed multiple successful wellness products and invested in companies like Thrive Market and AQUAHydrate. Find more at https://jillianmichaels.com and follow her at https://x.com/jillianmichaels 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 Find out more about the brands that make this show possible and get special discounts on Dr. Drew's favorite products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors  • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at https://drdrew.com/fatty15 • CAPSADYN - Get pain relief with the power of capsaicin from chili peppers – without the burning! Capsadyn's proprietary formulation for joint & muscle pain contains no NSAIDs, opioids, anesthetics, or steroids. Try it for 15% off at https://drdrew.com/capsadyn • CHECK GENETICS - Your DNA is the key to discovering the RIGHT medication for you. Escape the big pharma cycle and understand your genetic medication blueprint with pharmacogenetic testing. Save $200 with code DRDREW at https://drdrew.com/check • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

and more great guests for you lined up today the great jillian michaels comes in in just a second she of course is a fitness expert entrepreneur personality the fitness app it's an award-winning app eight new york times best-selling book keeping it real is the podcast where she's been expressing her mind uh quite a bit lately and we want to dig into that. A certified trainer, black belt in a couple of martial arts, CEO of Empowered Media. We'll be talking to her. You can find out more at JillianMichaels.com. You can see the fitness app. And she's Jillian Michaels on X. And after we chatted up with Jillian for a while, Drea DeMatteo is making a swing by. Susan saw her going wild on X

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And he thinks this is a good idea. So maybe I should follow what he or she is saying. Jillian, as I said, fitness expert, CEO of Empowered Media LLC. The pod is keeping it real. It's award-winning. You can find it where you find all the usual apps, usual podcasts. At Jillian Michaels, I'm going to spell it all out for you so there's no confusion. J-I-L-L-I-A-N Michaels, M-I-C-H-A-E-L-S on X and JillianMichaels.com.

You get the fitness app there. Jillian, welcome. It's a pleasure to have you. Hi, Doc. How are you? I am great. I don't see you yet. Did something happen, Caleb? Yeah, I'm having a technical difficulty here. Oh, technical. Well, can she and I chat in the meantime anyway? Yes, yes.

All right. So listen, one of the things that you and I, in fact, the majority of our conversation last time you and I met, and the Callie Means sister, Casey Means, followed me into your studios afterwards. So we were talking a lot about food sourcing and food health and the poisoning of the American metabolism. And I think that's going to begin to be addressed now as a result of people like RFK Jr. getting in there. Do you agree? I am so hopeful. I have waited decades for this, three decades approximately. And I think that we're fighting Goliath without question. And when I say we, I mean all of us.

Anybody in this space has been hoping for this for quite some time. And we see hope we see a pathway in. So I am, I'll say very optimistic. I'm very optimistic that we can at least make a dent. So how do you frame the problem as you, I mean, you've been interviewing all these great people and Caleb, I want to be able to see, it's's driving me a little crazy uh is that is that likely to happen soon yeah i'm i'm trying to get it the entire system is locked up so you can keep going you're streaming but the whole i'm trying to make us not have to restart the show so just keep going i'll get her up i'm getting it i'm working on it we got it all right. Such as, I declared that last night

was the death of mainstream media, particularly news, and that the digital media sources were the ones that prevailed. And of course, I was on Dave Rubin's thing last night. I had a technical problem.

And now as we start the day today, we get our technical issues here too. Oh, your earbud was just turned off. It wasn't that big a deal. It was not that big a deal, to be fair. But so back to how you frame the problem. Did I see that Thomas Massey is being considered

for Secretary of Agriculture, a gentleman who I'm not familiar with, who's a champion of regenerative farming, apparently is going to be the second in command there. He put out a long tweet today that I retweeted. For people who don't understand the nature of the problem in this country, how could you frame it for them in a way that they can digest it relatively simply?

Okay. It's just, as Callie says, it's raw economic incentive. It's big corporations that have found loopholes in our laws to commandeer wellness, and it starts with big farming. So you've got billions of tax subsidy dollars that go to grow monoculture crops like genetically engineered corn, genetically engineered soy. These crops are sprayed with a host of toxins, pesticides, herbicides, fungicides, chemical fertilizers, the soils depleted. They already have no nutrients. This begets a glut of cheap toxic calories that big food turns around and grabs and makes a boon of ultra processedprocessed garbage, they have their scientists put another spin on the food with, oh my gosh, emulsifiers, anti-caking agents, artificial colors, artificial flavors,

preservatives, arguably 10,000 chemicals that found their way into the food supply through a loophole in 2000 through the FDA. And then they make the food ubiquitous. So it's highly addictive. We're surrounded by it constantly. It hijacks our biology. So we literally cannot eat just one. It smashes the dopamine center of our brain so that we are driven to go to it whenever we're sad, mad, depressed, anxious. And from that point, big pharma enters and says, oh my gosh, this is amazing. Look at all of the diseases that our system begets for us to sell you drugs. And you've got a host of lifestyle diseases like high blood pressure, high cholesterol, arguably cancer,

heart disease. And while yes, there is a certain genetic predisposition. I talked to you guys all day long, doc, you and I talked about this, you brought in, you mentioned Dr. Casey means we can upregulate the expression of our genetics based on how we live, right? What we're eating. And so really it is this toxic triad of corporate greed, corrupting the system and setting us all up to fail. That's what's been going on. And that's what we hope Kennedy will disrupt. The thing that, that Casey pointed out to me, no, Callie pointed out to me that was so astonishing, which was that the tobacco companies, which there's universal agreement, this was an evil

empire with evil intent and evil consequences that literally the very same companies bought the food companies, moved the scientists, moved the marketers, and moved the lobbyists right on over to these food companies.

And, and Callie was one of them. He was a lobbyist and he said, we use the exact same techniques and the same strategies, the same philosophy as the tobacco company. Tobacco was about making tobacco more addictive with nicotine. Food is about making food more addictive with the yummy, with the raising the ghrelin levels, which is raising in sugar and insulin, all these things that make us hungry five minutes later. Yep, 100%. And the food is designed to undermine satiety.

And when you think about these drugs are a perfect example, right? Like GLP-1 mimicking drugs. Okay. So they're taking a hormone that is in the body for about 15 minutes that's designed to signal,iety hormones well fiber protein fat when you consume something like a big gulp there are none of the things i just mentioned in it so not only is it not releasing satiety hormones it's spiking your insulin it ultimately will cause a blood sugar crash, making you more hungry, more fatigued, and it's just absolutely vicious. There's a term for this and it's called structural violence because all of this is by design, as you mentioned. It's all on purpose. Obesity is the default for the human condition by design. That's really interesting. And you mentioned fat and satiety.

I've been fighting back on the war against fat for quite some time. Because it turns out all of that was founded on one guy's notions that has been largely dismantled in terms of its accuracy. And in the meantime, we should be using more butter. We should be using more tallow. We should be eating foods rich in certain fats. There's ways to get good fats into our system, and that helps with satiety, and it helps with diet. Absolutely.

I mean, I tend to think of it as a continuum, right? And I've spoken to a lot of PhDs in nutrition science over the course of my career, and they'll kind of say, listen, if you want to be keto, if you want to be carnivore, if you want to be vegan, you know, the body finds a way. Is there one that's ideal to another, arguably superior to another? Potentially. But the bottom line is that all of these stack up to the standard American diet with extraordinary superiority. In other words, all of them are going to listen yeah any conscious eating any conscious eating just just eliminating seed oils and that requiring you to read labels by the way all those walnuts susan and cash in all in seed oils they're made that's why you got to get the raw nuts they're all done in seed oils there's huge bags of seed oil r rancid walnuts, but that's how they get you. It's in

everything. But once you start reading labels, you start looking at everything else in there, and it makes you conscious of what you're putting in your system. You know what though, Doc? You said something, it's in everything and it makes it extraordinarily difficult so while i've been a massive opponent for self-agency right like here's the good news we cannot drink the soda we cannot buy the vape so we cannot you know all those things we can opt out which is wonderful but then there's your wife eating seed oils thinking she's being healthy because it is in everything and this is where people need a systemic change it's in the water it's in the air it's in the beauty products like we are being inundated and while good choices go a hell of a long way, giving people some support here will make a really big difference.

I agree. And we're back and we're live and we are streaming and we're going to get Jillian back in here in just a second. Thank you for your patience. Everybody pray. And I know Susan was entertaining you all over the Rumba Rants, so thank you for hanging out with that. It's funny, because this was sort of the skit on our show that Caleb was having technical problems.

It's real now. Oh, on the Aliens Attack show? Yeah. Yeah, everybody liked your acting job. I was going to say, this is a little bit more sincere, I'd say, because we really were distressed by this one. It happened.

Yeah, we're going to get Jillian loaded up here in just a second. You got to be careful what you wish for. And as we said, we'll have Drea DiMatteo in here in about 20 minutes or so. And yeah, so it's an interesting time. I want to talk more with Jillian

about the so-called, what is he called? The dream team or the people around Trump. I am so interested in that. The super ticket has various names. I don't know. Somewhere Trump's going to come up with some nickname for all of it, and we'll use that from then on.

But, you know, for me, I threw in with RFK, and then when he threw in with Trump, I was like, I guess that's where I'm heading. And because I don't have Trump derangement, I never had any strong kind of feelings about the first Trump administration. Nobody liked January 6th. That was not good.

Was he in his, did he actually believe that there was some shenanigans with the voting? I'm certain he did believe that. And maybe one day we'll find out there in fact was. In which case, all the people who are in prison now, don't they deserve a little compensation for their efforts? I don't know.

These are all very odd things to think about, particularly when we've been propagandized in various ways. And the thing I know I am sick of is the propaganda, the lying, the hoaxing. And as these things get further in the rearview mirror, they get more and more obvious as hysteria, hoax, lying, propaganda. And the thing about propaganda is that is the underlying soil for this mass formation, that loneliness then is the opportunity. delusional hysteria and you block the access to information that might break the hysteria or the delusions by canceling and censoring and i wrote something down here just last night when i was waiting to do something it was a quote from lewis brandeis the remedy for hateful speech is more

speech lewis brandeis I don't know if you know, but he was a Supreme Court justice, one of the most liberal, big supporter of the New Deal under Roosevelt and his clear mandate, as were so many liberals. This is the thing.

I always kind of thought of myself as kind of a liberal. And now to be a liberal is somehow alt-right. What do you think,illian who's hanging out there is that is that what you get accused of being now you're all right because you're interested in health all right i'm all right uh thanks boss um maga all right which by the way having been called maga for such a long time i'm confused what's

wrong with it you know at first you're like i am not and then i was like what am i ruffling my feathers about what does that even mean that you are a person who is disillusioned with the system and wants change then sure i mean sign me up i guess I'm MAGA alt-right probably not yeah you know it's interesting I I we you and I have sort of more recently really gotten to know each other and your thinking is almost always identical to mine like we sort of get to the same place on almost every issue and uh and I was talking before we got you on the food source issue, on the excessive use of pharmaceuticals, on the concerns about GLP-1s.

I mean, we share an absolute agreement on these things. And we come at it from different, I don't want to say perspectives, but different experiences. And we just look at the data and our judgment tells us there's a problem here. And part of that judgment is built on our experience working with human physiology. I mean, listen, I obviously don't have an MD, far from it,

but I have been interviewing people like yourself with a PhD or an MD after their name for the past 10 years. And I've worked with people like yourself for 30 years in the fields of fitness and nutrition. So common sense would dictate that a lot of the health narratives we've been having shoved down our throat in the past, honestly, I want to say five years is really when it's been ramped up. It's absurd. You can be healthy at any size. Obesity is a disease that you're hopeless to fend off on your own without drugs. I mean, my God, the list is so long and extensive. And it starts with health. And it really branches out from there.

Once you see it in health, you start to see it everywhere, I'm afraid. Right. We happen to have good judgment on the health side, so we can see through some of the sloganeering and propaganda. But something you and I have never talked about is your thoughts on this propagandizing efforts that have been going on? I am deeply, first I was blown away that it was happening. Then I was angry. And now I'm deeply saddened, concerned.

It's just mind-boggling to me that essentially a PSYOP is perpetrated against the American people by their government. Which area are you speaking about? Like, how's that yours? Yeah, whatever you please. Whatever you please, because you're right, there's a lot. It's absolutely true. I mean, we talk about this show all the time. I mean, honestly, which particular issue? It's all, I subscribed to this thing called MedPage Today. Thanks to Dr. William Lee. He would send me studies about GLP-1s there and I ended up subscribing and I got one yesterday and it was like, what will happen if Kennedy gets put in a position of power? Your healthcare will be destroyed. And I thought, my God, it's already, I can't even move

the other one. And it's already begun. And for the average person who doesn't work in health, I'm talking about, they really believe it. My mother was deeply alarmed. I'm like, mom, I promise you, this is not real. And I had to walk her through what the plan was, what the agenda was, what the issues are. But when you don't understand something, right, and you're hearing a narrative from what you believe to be credible sources like Newsweek or MSNBC, you're going to buy it. And people do. Although, luckily, it seems the majority has not now, which is really good news. Yeah, they do kind of see it for what it is, which is nice,

although still it has an effect on people. But let's talk about, let's just sort of break down that one idea that RFK Jr. is going to destroy healthcare. How much more destroyed, Jillian, Jillian, think about this. How much more destroyed can our health be? I know. You know what I mean? We're not in good shape.

Something is desperately wrong. I guess, right, that he's going to give you all kinds of disinformation about pharmaceuticals and vaccines and he'll plant conspiracy theories into your brain about gain of function research and COVID. And he's wrongly gone after after great saint Anthony Fauci. I mean, if I had to guess that I didn't bother to read it, I just was like, my God, here we go. I mean, they have not even won and it's already started. So that would be my guess, but what's so alarming, and this is a conversation that I had had with dave ruthman is that all of this covid disinformation and misinformation and i guess like misinformation is accidentally wrong information disinformation is when you intentionally perpetuate disinformation knowingly um all turned out to be true it was like oh yeah masks they don't

yeah not really a vaccine kind of a shot oh whoopsie yeah yeah came from a lab i mean the list is so long and they knew the whole time it's really scary actually but luckily a few voices were able to break through and wake up a few more people and a few more people until Trump won the popular vote by 5 million votes, I think it was last time. Yeah, I think he's more than that, actually. It's crazy. Yeah, the Brownstone Institute has been really instrumental in amplifying some of these voices and some of the thinking and the intellectuals in this area. And I gave a talk to them last week. And one of the points I made is that science itself is not being properly, people are not being properly educated about science. Randomized control trials have only been around for about 50 to 70 years.

Almost none of them are properly powered to draw the conclusions they do. So the N isn't big enough in the phase three trials to actually conclude much of anything. And I told a story where, and Brett Weinstein came up to me afterward and he said, this is the problem. This is it. I've been saying it. And the story was that when I applied for medical school in 1979, I had really, really good scientific training. And the guy that was interviewing me said, "'What's the scientific method?' And I said, well, you come up with a hypothesis, then you develop an experiment to test the hypothesis,

then you create a null hypothesis, you test the null hypothesis off that experiment, then you do a statistical analysis and then you repeat that many, many times and then maybe what your hypothesis was becomes a theory. And he looked at me and he goes, that is the first time in 10 years a student has known what the scientific method was.

And that was 40 years ago. It's way worse now, Brett emphasized it to me. And I noticed you use the word Goliath. Have you spoken to Brett Weinstein, which is his theory that we're fighting, David here is fighting Goliath? I recently met him in person, actually, at Dave Rubin's house for the first time.

And I'm a huge fan of his, his wife, his brother-in-law. Sometimes I really hope he's wrong because he can be quite scary with some of his ideas. And I just pray, I'm like, I hope that you are a little too far down the rabbit hole because this is really dystopian. The problem is that he's often right. So that said, he speculates that whatever it is that tried to censor differing opinions and hypotheses about therapeutics for COVID, COVID's origin, questioning the efficacy of the vaccine whatever it is that slotted kamala harris into the role of you know the democratic nominee with not one primary vote whatever it is that is selling you what you know all these crazy narratives is not done yet you know he doesn't think that it just surrenders and the question is what is it right like what is that is it corporate like what is who what this cabal

of millionaires so let's think i don't know but it is something and it is powerful i i in the simplest form i totally agree with you. And I'm glad to know you're attending the Day of Ruben Soirees. Those are some of the most interesting dinners of all time. But I must go to the next one you attend. But at very minimum, there is a deep belief that centralization of authority is a necessary road to human flourishing. And history teaches us that that is in fact untrue and it always ends in human demise. And so for some reason, and the Tower of Babel itself was an attempt to centralize authority.

So apparently humans do this on a regular basis. It must be fought against. It is the enemy. Now, who's doing it and why, what the confluence of forces are. And Mike Benz would say that the blob of the sort of the NSA, the security and intelligence community is involved with it. Probably all true. It's probably all kind of true. And which is why I was throwing in deeply for Elon Musk,

because his idea of unraveling, I mean, that's what he went into Twitter and did. He unraveled its inefficiency. And lo and behold, look what he found, all these restraints on free speech. I'm guessing he's going to find a lot of things like that. So I look forward to that. So I look forward to that. What I want to ask you is Tulsi Gabbard is your champion in this. I've had,

Susan and I had the great privilege of having dinner with her. We know her, we love her. What are you, what are you hoping from, from her? You know, this is, this is, I mean, I hate to throw this out there. I hope to see her run in 28. Um, I mean, I would love for her to become secretary of state. Uh, maybe it would be ambassador UN, which was enough for Nikki Haley to make.

that's a great idea. That is a great idea because that needs to be straightened out and she sees it for what it is. That is a great idea. Tell your, you know, we have our mutual friend that books your show and I understand you got him to lose some weight recently. And he was telling, he was saying to me, Susie was like, she's yelling at me. She told me, she cusses at me. I'm like, yes, of course she does. She knows how to do this. But tell him to send that message on in. Yeah, he lost 40 pounds doing it. Guess what?

Diet and exercise. Shocker. I know. Really profound. I put this hypothesis together, Doc, that if you eat a little bit less, you move a little bit more. And I proved it over and over and over. What? What? What a weird idea.

I know. So yes, he has in fact lost a decent amount of weight and I hope to take more off of him in the coming year. But I, you know, here's the thing with Tulsi. She's incredibly intelligent and articulate. She's seasoned. She's a colonel. I mean, she's yet to be corrupted. What more can we ask of somebody? She's young. She's vital.

She's tireless. She's dedicated. She's fearless. I do see some strong opposition and you know but i but that's really where boring you know god knows what but that's what that's where i i am hoping to plant my have you been in the same have you met her have you shake have you had a chance to shake her hand? That sort of thing? I had a few phone calls and she reached out to me about

attending some of the women's events for Trump and I just said, listen, because by the way, I really have zero interest in being political. I really hate when public figures who aren't qualified endorse candidates because it's like, here you

are telling people who to vote for. I think that's wrong and I don't want to be that person Because it's like, here you are telling people who to vote for. I think that's wrong. And I don't want to be that person. It's like, yeah, Michael, stay in your lane. And you're totally right. Like, I will speak out where I see things that are wrong and unfair. But I'm just going to try to draw your attention. I'm not going to tell you what to decide about it.

Like, I want you to have the facts. You make your own decision. And I said, listen, I, you, this isn't what I do. I tell people what to eat, not who to vote for. Um, I think I've been doing my fair share and expressing the flaws on the other side. And she agreed. And I just said, listen, if you decide that you're going to get in this race again in a meaningful way, I will show up and run through broken glass barefoot

if that's what you're telling me to do because I believe in you that much, I followed you for that long. But outside of that, Doc, like I really hate when people try to tell other people what to do and they don't speak from a place of authority. I get it. Like I'm not an authority.

I completely get it. You know, I understand. However, two, two things, two things you have been quite, no,

no, there are two things. One is you have been seeing through the propaganda and the forces that are making us sick or sicker. And that's important. And you see where that's coming from and you've had an ass full of it. You're done with it.

I don't blame you. And I feel the same way. And yeah, and the same thing, I'm going to bet, I'm going to bet that you're going to get some sort of a request to come in. Whatever RFK puts together,

whether it's a, I don't know, you're going to be in the East Room giving a talk or something, something, something, something. And you'll go do your part. You'll go do it. You know what I mean? And then you'll talk about what you know about and what you've seen and what works and what we hope for the future to make America healthier. I always think, whenever I think about this issue on the agriculture side, I just had such a vivid experience in France where I ate bread all day long

and I lost weight while I was there. I ate bread and cheese constantly. Did you work out every day? I didn't do the big workout though. It was not, it was sort of a half. You did the V-Shred workout. I did a version of it, but it was,

it was, it was, it was with, it was not with weights. It was with, you know, I've never done before. It was with rubber,

the bands and things. You took the bands with us. Yeah, the bands. And it was, it was adequate. It was something, but,

but I never really had done that before, but I ate bread all day. I ate lots of bread. You were trying out the HIIT program too. I was doing, I was, it was my first experience with HIIT cardio, or HIIT, HIIT sort of. Drew and I both I eat lots of bread. You were trying out the HIIT program too. Yes, I was doing. It was my first experience with HIIT cardio or HIIT sort of. Drew and I both lost a bunch of weight doing V-Shred. We were ambassadors of goodwill at V-Shred, and we both lost 15 to 20 pounds.

Yeah, I actually lost too much. I recently just let my weight come back up because I was thinking, I'm not sure I should be this low in my weight. You know, this is something worth talking about. So I am, because I deal with a lot of elderly patients, because I myself am senior, I have to choke on that word, but sarcopenia is a very serious issue. But sarcopenia is a problem.

And we have to really, i just dealt with a couple people today where i was like god if we'd only gotten you 20 years ago and we could have really worked on there now they're 85 87 88 and i'm trying to do the best i can but it's it's it's not a game you can play in catch-up you have to start in your 40s 50ss, and 60s, resistance training, keeping muscle mass up. Speak to that for a second, if you wouldn't mind. You know, who's excellent at this actually is Dr. Peter Attia, and he's got a complete grip for how he, what benchmarks he wants you to hit at every age. I tend to think he's nuts.

It's like, oh, do a dead hang for two minutes. I'm kind of like, Peter, you're a little crazy, but you know, I, I prefer that you go too far instead of not far enough and allow somebody to like, you know, shoot for the stars, land on the moon. That's great. Uh, but the reality is that, you know, when you look at one of the top predictors of how long somebody is going to live and the quality of their life in older age, it's how much lean mass they've been able to maintain. And it has to do with just pure functionality. It's can you bend down and pick up your grandchild? Can you open up a jar of soup effectively? You know, should you trip and fall down? Is your hip going to break and you'll be bedridden?

And we all know what that can ultimately lead to when you're in your 80s. So taking care of yourself in a preemptive fashion is so, so important. And one of the most unfortunate things that I see in my line of work is people tend to need that really scary wake-up call. I hate it. You know, you try so hard to speak to the younger kids about eating the garbage food, getting, you know, a jump on it early, like taking care of their skin, getting their sleep, managing their stress, eating better, moving more. And at 20, 25, 30, they can eat a pizza after drinking four beers five nights out of the week and still have a six pack. What they don't realize is all the damage it's doing until one day you wake up 40 pounds heavier,

you know, cholesterol is through the roof, blood pressure is through the roof. They're trying to give you 15 drugs. And it's just like it is trying to wake people up before that scary moment. Sometimes that's what it takes. Most times it is. And the hope is that you get the wake-up call that is reversible. But, yeah, in your 80s it's very very tough you know and and i spent my whole career trying to intervene on the issues that were shortening life things that you know were take people out i'm now starting to focus on things that can lengthen life which is a whole

which is what you're talking about it's an entirely different thing jillian i'm going to going to wrap up. Where do you want people to go? Where would you like people to see you and find you? And hopefully we'll be at Dave Rubin's house together sometime soon. But where would you like the average, my audience to find you? YouTube, at Jillian Michaels. We do a podcast with incredible doctors like yourself and thought leaders across all areas of pop culture um that's where i'll be you can find me there jillian i appreciate you being here appreciate all you're doing and again i our brains work a lot alike and so i i always know that if i'm thinking something you're going to agree with it i hope we find something to disagree on frankly so we can

enhance our you know our fund of knowledge by getting to the truth together. I'll dig deep. I'll try to come back to you with something in the future. We'll see you soon. Bye, guys. And as we said, we are going to bring Drea DeMatteo in here after the

break. Caleb, is there anything that you want to put the upcoming guests up before we bring Dre in or anything? Or we just go to break and then bring Dre back? Yeah, we can go to break in just a minute. I was just, it's so curious to me. I'm trying to get her logged back in.

I can answer them because I agree with everything she says. What are your questions? It's just, it's so interesting to me that I've noticed a lot of people of of all races creeds genders everything a lot of fitness people have really kind of swept over this direction i think because it i'm trying to figure out why but i think it's because things like health and like leaning more towards the right like it because the right seems like it's turned

into the platform of people who are just saying this this is the truth, this is how it works. Like what she was saying about losing weight. It's like, eat less, move more. But they've been trying to mess with that and say, it's not that simple, when it actually is. The enemy is post-structuralism. And post-structuralism is a philosophy that has captured a lot of academia in this country that would have it that the truth is relative. The reality is you can ascend to the truth through using your brain. Now, you may not get all the way there, but you can ascend to some approximation of the truth, especially when it comes to physiology and human behavior and human biology.

Then number two, you can therefore then say some things are healthier than others. And we can say it out loud. And then you can say three, if somebody would like to be healthier, we know how to do that. And then four, the fact that people like me have been so focused on the things that shorten life, hypertension, hypercholesterolemia, falls, pneumonias, cancers, which do shorten life.

And we do need to stay on top of that. We've missed this new category that we can make a difference, which is lengthening life. And Julian mentioned sarcopenia, the loss of muscle mass. That is something that happens to everybody at some point in our life. We fall off a cliff. It's called a sarcopenia, the loss of muscle mass. That is something that happens to everybody at some point in our life. We fall off a cliff. It's called a sarcopenic cliff. We lose our muscle mass and it's associated with end of life. It sort of is the last sort of stage of living. If you can push that back as far as possible, you will live not just longer, but better longer. Wellness will be sustained as well.

And to get that muscle mass up, let me tell you, Jillian was referring to some of the Peter Attia's- I don't have a lot of time, Drew. Okay, okay. Some of Peter Attia's landmarks, as you get older, you have joint problems, you can't really do those things.

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to do it. Drea DeMatteo, we noticed, was celebrating online. Susan was, well, we were cracking up. Drea, honestly, bring Drea on in here. Drew stalks Drea on Twitter. Sometimes I do, especially when she's... She always draws attention to her. He's like, look at Drea.

Well, yeah, I go, look at Drea. When you're carrying on, I get entertained. And what really caught me was a retweet of a Roseanne Barr OnlyFans for Kamala Harris. And I thought, oh, yeah. I can laugh at myself. There we go. Yes, you can. Yes, you can.

I can laugh at myself. I mean, I can't. Anyway, I'm very happy today. I'm very happy. But it is the calm before the storm. Anyways. What do you think is coming? What's coming?

What's coming your way? What do you think? I don't know, guys. I mean, don't you guys wonder how easily they'll let go of power? I still think we need to be... Not after they made such an issue of it. January 6th was their whole organizing philosophy. So I can't imagine...

Although I've got to say, there's a lot of narcissism flying around. And as soon as somebody accuses you of something, whatever they're accusing you of is probably something going on in their heart. That's just how this all works. So it does make you wonder uh is this what is this i hope in the days coming to explain how we had record trial caleb what are you showing us oh i'm i'm showing some breaking news here all of these top accounts on x are engaging in in election denial conspiracy

theories oh no oh no are you good amal something doesn't add up this is so strange oh no are we gonna ban all these people's accounts this is now back to january 6th stuff yeah these are other accounts that are on x right now they're all saying the exact same stuff that they wanted to send people to jail for like exactly four years ago. Yeah. Well, a lot of that is saying, how is it that Obama and Biden and Trump all had 60 million or 65 million votes to win, but Biden had 81 million votes?

How is that possible? How did that happen? Was he that great of a candidate? Not my specialty. Not your thing. So, but are you worried that they're going to put are they worried that you worried they're going to put him and try to put him in jail you know or are you worried that they're going to i i'm more at this point the conspiracies that have flown wild i think i think it's pretty obvious that most of them have

kind of come to fruition at this point. I'm more worried about, look, I didn't think there was going to be an election. I thought that somehow that would get squashed, that there'd be some sort of catastrophe. I think that we're all aware of the fact that they can generate anything they want these days. aware of the fact that they can generate anything they want these days um maybe they weren't prepared for that but maybe they'll be prepared to not inaugurate them i don't know i just feel like we have to be extra vigilant right now about what's about to happen just listening to the the media spin already it's uh when is it going to stop? Like, I just don't understand. I mean,

and I think about, I thought about you today, actually, before Susan even reached out to me, I thought, what is the, the, how do we assess the sort of mental illness? Like I don't, I'm not saying that everybody's mentally ill. I'm not saying that at all. I had Trump derangement syndrome. I know what it feels like to think, to believe everything the media is saying. But we've come so far now where most intellects should know that the media is not truthful, that they read from a script, or they're extremely brainwashed. I don't really know who's getting paid or who's actually believing certain things. It is really hard to believe that people are still believing or buying into this.

Like I read some things today that my friends posted that everyone said, look at what so-and-so said and look at what this person said and things people are saying about Robbie, his fans, he lost, he lost thousands of followers over, um, posting a picture of himself with Donald Trump. And people are saying he's a threat. Like they're putting pictures of them up saying that, um, to watch out for this person report report something if you see something. He's a threat to our country. She doesn't even live in this country, number one.

But I'm floored by all of it. I just don't like when I hear white men talking about other races to the degree that these men are sort of. And I know he was there with Al Sharpton, whatever, but they're now trying to spin this misogyny thing saying that the Hispanic and the black man are misogynists and by the way all these celebrity endorsements I feel like the number one celebrity endorsement this year for America was the black vote and the Hispanic vote and the way they came out on social media just like fuck you we're not going to take it anymore we're not going to take your bullshit we're not going to take it anymore, we're not going to take your bullshit, we're not going to take this division and keeping us

down, like, they used I feel like they used every minority as a pawn, they used the gay community the black community, the Hispanic community and now they're trying to spin it into turning them into misogynists I mean it's too much

so we're going to talk about the mental illness Misogynists? I mean, it's too much. Well, you mentioned the propaganda. So first of all, propaganda works. It's a brainwashing works, persuasion works. These are highly developed techniques. Now, what I don't understand is how it's invaded the media so much. Is it just that the anchors on the media or the people that are writing the teleprompter material have been persuaded by somebody and that's where the derangement's coming in? At very minimum, you see evidence of mass formation. You see delusional thinking. So what's delusional thinking? So I want to, I want to you to tell us what it's like to have Trump derangement and how it changed for you, because it's really important for people that are in a delusional state, right?

Where their thoughts are not reflective of reality and they can't be persuaded out of it with rational discourse. What was that like for you and how did you change? Yeah, I mean, this was back with the whole immigration thing. I was very swept up in that. I also wasn't paying close enough attention. I wasn't doing the research. And I think that's a huge part of it.

I think if Americans really want to understand how we got here, if they would research it for five minutes beyond just the headlines on their social media feed, maybe look at my social media feed for a little while. But if they would go beyond all of the soundbites and all of the perpetual lies, I think that they would find some truth in there. For example, and I'm not even talking about my own experience right now, but this was happening. Well, it is my own experience. When Trump said certain things like there were fine people on both sides, all of these soundbites, when he said, I'm going to do it whether these women like it or not. But let's go back to the Charlottesville one.

I never really knew that story. I just knew that he was a Nazi and that's what everybody was calling him and everyone, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and the borders. So he must be a racist. And I didn't know about the gang stuff. Like I wasn't really paying attention. My daughter got me to vote for Biden. I'd never voted in my life. I was always anti-establishment and I was anti-Bush, like majorly anti-Bush. So anything Republican to me was just, you know, I'm just not that, you know, I was anti-establishment, not a voter, didn't vote because I didn't do the research because I didn't feel like I had enough information to make a fair decision. And I didn't want to participate

out of self-righteousness like I would vote if it was a righteous vote and I voted for Biden because I believed the bullshit and that was that and then I found myself in a I watched him one night talk about the vaccine mandates. And I watched all of those frontline workers go from heroes to zeros in COVID. Everybody was fired. There was no question. There was no protesting. All of these working class, incredible people were now laid to rest and without the potential to earn or anything.

I was one of them, but I was like, Hey, I can sell my house maybe. But when they refused to take the vaccine, they all just got dismissed and people protested like the truckers convoy in Canada, the Americans did not protest. I mean, I went to a mandate, I mean a protest for the mandates here, and really nobody showed up. It was really weird. The truckers were coming through. It was very sad to see hippies, Californians who care about health. I mean, you said Jillian Michaels here. All of the things that the sort of the California lifestyle once meant to people. And that lifestyle was being completely dismissed in left-wing politics. And that's where it usually lives.

So I started to notice the inversion. Like they, I started to notice that the authoritarian thing was happening, was happening on the left. And I was like, holy shit, they're just, they're just playing a game of, of what is it, the chairs, the thing with the chairs that they go around. Musical chairs. Musical chairs with Republicans and Democrats. There's no,

and I always sort of felt that way. So I stayed away from it. But this was a moment in time where I was like, they're really going to convince the world that this is the righteous path. And Joe Biden gets up with a big red backdrop behind him and he's preaching to America all kinds of totalitarian phrases and words based on this vaccine. Anyway, back to Trump and saying what he said and watching Biden doing all this and me feeling like I'm losing my freedoms and hearing the words fascism and Nazism all over the fucking place. That speech that he made after the Charlottesville thing. I cannot believe that liberals right now, and I'm still a liberal, that they will watch a debate and listen to Kamala talk about that moment in time with

the news folks there. I forgot what station it was, maybe ABC or whatever. And nobody debunks it live on TV in front of an audience. This is a woman who's been in politics her whole life. She knows the truth. She knows what the full video said. She knows what he said right after that moment. And she fed it to the American public, to her followers, the people that will go and vote for her. And blatantly is lying to the public along with a television network. And the real information's right there. Anybody can look it up. It's right there on your phone. You can watch the entire, um, the entire speech that he gave the entire speech he gave about protecting women as well, that they then sound bit into something about abortion saying, well, I'm going to make these women do it.

I'm going to do it whether they like it or not. And he's talking about protecting women. He's not talking about, I'm going to make them, you know, accept this abortion rule whether they like it or not. And the fact that she was lying like that to the American people and no one knows it. Well, everyone knows it.

They all voted because of that. The people that voted one knows it. Well, everyone knows it. They all voted because of that. The people that voted knew the truth, but now you have the media spinning it to be about misogynist Hispanics and blacks. So instead of them feeling like, or all of us feeling like there was a victory, now we have to deal with the media spin of not only Scarborough saying that about the men, but now you have the witches on The View. Oh my God. I mean, Joy was one of my mom's old friends. I'm floored when I hear it, but they're calling the women, the percentage of women that voted for Trump uneducated. Like where are they getting these fucking statistics from? And, and what an insult to the American people.

So she's running on insulting her entire country. So yeah, there's Trump derangement syndrome. I don't know, man. I think people have truth derangement syndrome. Forget about Trump derangement. It's called truth derangement syndrome. That's really funny. That's really good. I like that. You know, it just occurred to me, I saw Claire McCaskill on

multiple different stations over the evening. And she said the following thing. I thought this was so interesting. She goes, she mentioned five states that are now going, or four states, I believe, were now going to send Republican senators to Washington. Four states where Trump won. And then she went, and then they made laws to protect abortion. How, what, how is that, who is that? They're not getting the message that that is a state's rights issue. We don't want the federal government up our ass with everything.

We want things to be managed locally and at most by the state, but not the federal government. It's certainly not something as profound as our body integrity. That's the point, that the same person that could vote for Trump, vote for a senator on the right, can also vote to protect abortion privileges the best they know how within the state or county in which they live. That's it. Keep the federal government out of our lives. It's not designed to do what people think it's doing. It's supposed to manage interstate commerce and defense, and that's about it, and have a constitution that's protected by that defense that includes our rights. But those rights can be protected at a local level. The federal government doesn't have to execute that all

the time. They shouldn't be in our lives. This is ridiculous. And the fact that Claire McCaskill can't see that, that was astonishing to me. God, is she terrible. Oh, my goodness. I just, I woke up this morning, oh, my God, this is terrible. Yeah. I didn't even see all of that.

But, you know, even on the whole topic of abortion i've talked about this before i've had abortions i my great-grandmother was only abortionist in 1950s harlem like i'm not i am not one of these you know pro pro-life um lunatics here i'm still crazy liberal but i don't understand how these women all these celebrities but i'm i feel more i feel feel safer with her as my president. Really, while women are getting raped all over the place, and let's even talk about, you want to talk about protecting reproductive rights. How about protecting your daughter's reproductive organs? Because we now know about the percentages of miscarriage

since the rollout of the vaccine and all those Pfizer trials, all of that paperwork is flooding out. And God knows what's going to happen once Trump gets inaugurated, if they allow it. But you're going to see all of the trials and how they didn't fare well with women that were pregnant or women that, you know, even. You know what? The whole way along, I said, listen, I want a woman president as much as the next woman does, okay?

And I would love somebody. What, you for president? It was word. Tulsi Gabbard. We're going to get Tulsi Gabbard in there. It was word salad, first of all. And she infantilized women. She would say,

oh, you know, you're not getting an abortion. You're not getting on a plane and going over the border to get an abortion. You're going over the border to get a pill and then come back. And she makes it sound so dramatic. Oh, you have to go through TSA, and then you have to get on the plane by yourself,

and then your best friend's watching your kids, and then you have to come back. And, you know, it's so horrifying. I'm like, it's not that bad to get on a plane. I've done it alone a million times. Like, shut up. Say something important. Like, if you think I'm dumb and I'm voting for Trump because I'm dumb, no, it's because you are infantilizing me.

You are making me feel like an idiot. And I'm just like waiting for her to say something important. I can't, I couldn't, it drove me crazy. Andrea, I want you to comment on this one thing. The last thing too, with all of the women that were so up in arms about reproductive rights and about women's rights, this whole women's and the misogyny thing. I'm sorry, but misogyny was alive and well on the fucking left. Because if you're going to put a little boy in my daughter's locker room, or you're going to have men competing against, If my daughter was a professional in sports and I was having to deal with that for her, I would be furious. I'm not one of those moms, but I can imagine the moms that are. Can you imagine Drea? Oh God, this would be great.

Forget about it. I would be screaming from the rooftops. How dare you? You want to talk about feminism to me and tell me I'm not a feminist and I'm weak and I'm not intelligent? Fucking Mark Cuban, all these people that are coming out now and saying that this is all misogyny now that Trump's in office. No, I don't fucking buy that for a second. see the hypocrisy of my body. My choice when the whole vaccine thing was going on was one thing. And now the same thing with these with the not protecting women's reproductive organs, not protecting their identity in society. This idea that you need to talk to kids about

their sexuality when they're five years old. Yeah, why does a young, healthy woman need an mRNA vaccine? Why? It's so stupid. Well, but the good news is we can say this all out loud now. If we had said this two years ago, we would be nearly arrested and certainly take drummed off of, yeah. We could have been arrested today if things would have gone differently.

We still can be. Yeah, I suppose that's true. I suppose that's true. I suppose that's true. But doesn't it feel like the, you know, trotting out, what's her name, that played Pretty Woman, Julia Roberts, and all these, some of these people that they trumped, they just pulled out of the hat to go support Kamala Harris, didn't it feel kind of old-timey?

You know what I mean? You're sitting in your salon there talking on digital media and tweeting, and that's how you're getting the word out. They have a movie. They have a movie. But these people in their 60s are being trotted out as though they're cool, and they're doing it in mass media, which is also not cool. It's just such an old-time way of doing things.

It's like old Hollywood. They wouldn't let the stars do certain things for publicity and propaganda. It's weird. I mean, Joanna, she had to walk away. Oh, who did? Who had to walk away? I didn't hear what she said. I mean, you're not working in Hollywood now just because of this.

Oh, getting canceled. Yeah, like, you know, these stars are being told what they need to do because it's the right thing to do. They have to vote for Kamala. So, you know, otherwise they're not going to get another job. Well, I mean, I think, I really do think a lot of people voted for Trump. I think that it was just a, I had so many people whispering in my ear, like, thank you. And a lot of people writing me today, you know, we did it. And I'm just like, really? You're excited, you know, but then there's

a lot that are not. You do? Interesting. But I do feel like, you know, there was's a lot that are not you do um interesting but i do feel like uh you know there was a fanfare to it at one time there was this patriotic vibe to all of these celebrities coming out for certain presidents at different times when we were all democrats um i loved it you know to see all of that because we we were all anti-bush god knows and which was such a you know again you know showing who is it michael i got crazy with all the celebrity endorsements kind of and i and i'm not someone to make fun of people but every time i would see one on online i would repost it and write some bullshit underneath it because i just started to get really like like come on guys like stevele, you're a fucking hippie.

What are you doing? You're endorsing Dick Cheney today? Like, where did you come from with this shit? Willie Nelson. Oh, now you're on Dick Cheney's side. Give me a fucking break. But Michael Keaton said something that I thought was so interesting. He said, they're laughing at you.

He said something. i'm not going to quote him properly but he said something about how the people on the right don't care about you they're just laughing at the kind of people that you are remember do we saw that yeah we saw him said it was it was sad actually it made me sad look of desperation yeah Yeah. But embedded in all of that is the last thing I want to do is tell somebody else how to live their life. And you mentioned how you used to fight against the right because guess what? Within the right was the moral majority, the religious right. And they felt they had a moral imperative to tell people how to live their life. I spent most of my career fighting that group off, much as you fought against them. and they felt they had a moral imperative to tell people how to live their life.

I spent most of my career fighting that group off, much as you fought against them. I was fighting them off to be able to do the work I wanted to do. Now, another group has stepped in with a much more, a less morally based foundation for telling me how to live my life. And they have gone even further than the right did in terms of infringing upon things like speech. On the right, they didn't want the speech that would reach their kids and adulterate their community and that kind of stuff. Now, I don't want free speech because I say it's bad. I say it's misinformation. You don't know what you're talking about and you need to listen to me and my friends.

That is a very scary cabal. Yeah, I know I have a few friends who are couples and some of them couldn't vote because they wanted to vote for Trump. You know, men who wanted to vote for Trump and the women were like, how could you? I mean, if you love your partner, then you would never take away their rights of freedom of speech or opinion. But we're living in some really deranged times. I don't understand it.

And I think it's about to get even more crazy. I mean, just seeing, maybe people calm down, but today people are really unhinged. Yeah, you see, I mean, we were- When I was in, I'm sorry. When I was in the bathrooms, I was in a bunch of airports this week and I was in the bathroom in the women's stalls and there were stickers like on the on the toilet paper holder.

And it said, you don't have to. You can vote in private. You know, like, don't let your man tell you what to do. And it's funny that you're saying the opposite. That was so weird. We're so weak. We're so weak. You know, today, Robbie was wearing his MAGA hat everywhere because he's like

fuck it because I don't let him wear it I'm like dude I'm already getting so many people coming over to just ask me to say Christopher can you just not wear the hat so that we could just have a quiet day out but funny enough before yesterday all the women flocked to him. I hang back and I'm like, holy shit, I'll be damned. All of these women want to hang out with him and talk to him because he has a red hat on. Because he's not a pussy. I mean, sorry to say it like that. But that's how it felt. They saw a man and they wanted it.

We're voting for Trump. And I was like, holy shit, go girls. And it was all these like cool LA chicks, you know, but today Robbie pulled over because there was a guy, there's a lot of men wearing MAGA hats today. And there was a guy on the corner wearing his hat proud. And he was surrounded by like 10 cops, two cop cars. So Robbie swung around and he's like, let's go see what's going on there. And it turned out that that guy had been chased down the street by another guy with a machete. Oh, boy.

Here we go. Welcome to Los Angeles. Were you down here? Were you in Los Angeles? We were in the valley. Why? Because he had a MAGA hat on? It was the MAGA hat.

Yeah, it was the MAGA hat on? It was the MAGA hat, yeah. Well, again, my thing of all, I've been saying from the beginning, I want to see RFK Jr. and Musk in Washington. That was my goal. I'm really interested in that. I'd love to see RFK try to bring some healthier

mechanisms, things that improve our health, like Jillian and I were discussing. And I'm interested in Musk getting government more efficient and more out of our lives. To me, that interests me greatly. So I'm relieved to see those guys

in there doing their thing. It'll be very interesting to see what they can do. And I hope, you know, there's always unintended consequences in everything. I hope they don't screw things up, but I do trust those guys to do good work. I mean, look, RFK's record is impeccable in terms of cleaning things up,

and that's really what needs to happen. Musk, same thing. In terms of efficiency, there's nobody better. Engineering, nobody better. Shouldn't those be the guys working in our government on our behalf? Yes. Let's see what they can do.

I think it'd be really interesting. And there's one thing that neither candidate talked about, which was the budget deficit. And that is the mortal, I mean, that is an existential problem that we have to deal with. And I'm hoping that Musk gets at that a little bit. I've got to kind of wrap things up. Somebody just said Drea on Juicy Scoop. Courtney on X. She's very excited.

She said Drea. Were you on Juicy Scoop? Oh, I did that because of you guys. You guys sent me there. Oh, that's how you got in there. Okay, good. One thing before we go, though, the thing that is most important to me, and RFK was always, that's how I got to Trump as well. Um,

is we've all been sick around here and I knew we were going to get sick because about eight days ago they sprayed the skies in a way that I had never witnessed. It was so aggressive. And today they're aggressively spraying again. And I felt sick all day today. And it's, it's really astounding. And I know we don't really talk about it and everyone writes it off as conspiracy and I know that you know a couple of film companies were paid millions to to add those types of grids to their old movies so that people don't talk about it anymore but it is a real problem and the you know the food at least we can control what we consume to a degree, even though the food administration needs to be totally dismantled as well.

But this shit they're doing to us in the skies, I think that needs to be the first thing that Kennedy does. And I really hope he does. I mean, I don't know if you want to tell us. The valley. In the valley? They're spraying in the valley? Is that like the strawberries? No, no, no.

I'll explain it to her. And let's just hope that if there's something going on, we get some honest appraisals rather than more bullshit, more lies, more propaganda. Whatever is going on, let's get as much truth and transparency. I am reserving room for intelligence and things we can't know or shouldn't know, but that should be an absolute minimum. Everything else, they're working for us.

And how do we know that they're doing a good job unless we know the job they're doing? And the fact that there's a bureaucracy in there that feels that everyone's, that they're in charge and that the will of the people bears no significant influence on them, that is disgusting and that must go. And so I think you would agree with that. And I think that's one of the major, I look forward to that being one of the major changes ahead, I hope. And keep the World Health Organization and the World Economic Forum, all those guys, keep them out of our lives and our country. Yes?

Yes. The UN Pact for the future needs to go. All of it. NATO. I mean, I'm just... Take it all apart. Stop the wars. Peace.

Andrea's going full hippie. Full hippie. You're going to be putting flowers in the cannons so okay how do they call what how do they call us the racists and the white nationalists and the fascists

I'll never understand it I'll never understand it so Caleb do you have a chyron with her clothing company I'll never understand it. So, Caleb, do you have a Chiron with her clothing company? Her Ultra Free? Do you have any pictures of her Ultra Free? I don't have the pictures.

She has it right there. Look at that. There it is. Is it always on me? So, if you want to support Chiron and show some love. They have amazing jewelry. They have amazing jewelry. They have amazing sweatshirts,

pants, everything. They have everything. And now she can be ultra free. Let her be ultra free. She doesn't have to act. She doesn't have to be encumbered anymore. She can be a full hippie

like she wants to be. No shaving. And speaking of acting, Drea, I actually, for the first time in my life, I just started watching like she wants to be. No shaving. Speaking of acting, Drea, I actually, for the first time in my life, I just started watching The Sopranos. I'm in season one. You have not aged a day since 1999. It is

bizarre. You look like the same here as you do there. It's really wild to look. And I'm like, wait, this is from 1999? That's 20 something. It's wild. Thanks, Caleb. Don't spoil anything. I'm like, wait, this is from 1999? That's 20 something. It's wild. Thanks, Caleb. Don't spoil anything. I'm still in season one. There's a filter on here, guys. No, you look good.

You look good. I've seen you in person. Let's have dinner soon. We'll do something. Maybe they can come to the Jimmy Dore thing on Friday. We'll see them because that's out that way. We're going to Jimmy Dore and I think Roseanne's going to be there. Who? Okay. Roseanne Barr is going to be there at the Jimmy Dore comedy.

We'll get you. We'll do something. All right. Thank you for joining us, Drea. We appreciate it very much. Take care of yourself. Thanks for having me guys.

Okay. See you soon. Bye. Love you. With the Jimmy Dore thing up there, caleb if you don't mind that's friday at seven at the troy theater or something like that uh two roads theater yeah uh at in on tanga studio city it's in studio city well we're gonna find out studio city yeah uh maybe we should go eat it at a firefly well i know that's what I'm thinking this is coming up

Salty Cracker in here tomorrow at noon oh no wait a minute is that tomorrow? yes tomorrow at noon yeah

tomorrow and then wait a minute tomorrow's Thursday yeah okay tomorrow at noon and then Friday we'll be with Jimmy Dorn

we should invade Salty Cracker over on his show tell everybody over there to come watch him tomorrow on our show. Get up on the Rumble Rants when we invade. You know what would be fun is Drea

and Salty Cracker together. I think Salty Cracker with anybody would be funny. He gets timid though. Go ahead, Caleb. I did want to mention something that I noticed, Drew. Just from the pattern from Jillian and then Drea and then other people that we've had on the show, that it seems like the wall that a lot of people hit, you know, from being lifelong liberals and or at least feeling like they're lifelong left leaning is when the lies, like when you just can't, there's a lie that someone says and they just stick with it. And you're like, but wait, that's not true. It's just, it's not like, Drea's seems to be the moment whenever, other than COVID seemed like it was your moment.

To Drea, it seemed like it was both COVID, their response to that, and also the like boys and girls sports and then, you know, girls bathrooms and stuff. That seems to be the line. Same thing with like people at JK Rowling. Right. And so it's so interesting to me.

But I'm going to tell you what it is. But the feeling they all expressed was insult. You're insulting me. Right. And so it's so interesting to me. But the feeling they all expressed was insult. You're insulting me. Right. You're insulting me. You're insulting me when you call me a Nazi, insulting when you lie to me, insulting when you propagandize me, insulting when you tell me I'm misogynist. These are insults. How can you possibly get people to follow you when you're insulting them? I always taught my kids, have a good comeback. So if they say you're a Nazi, go, well, you're ugly. You're fat. No, why did you just say, why did you say, I know you are, but

what am I? You're an asshole. So I don't know. I guess you win. What really struck me drew about that fact is how it seemed like democrats assumed for a very long time that they owned the latino vote and then to see latinos come out and vote for trump in a way that you like i was watching the news and the shock on the people's faces at the news outlets when they're just they're like wait this can't be right. This is what? Because it's like they actually- There's a word for that. It's elitism. Elitism. That's what I saw. They know, they know, and then when they're shocked, when they don't follow the wisdom that we know that they should be doing.

Terrible. Really, don't tell other people how to live their lives. Stay out of other people's lives. It's how we do this. So, Susan, your show's coming up on Friday. We're not going to talk about it. Okay. We're not going to talk about it. What else is coming up? Jay Bhattacharya on the 12th. Tyler Fisher on the 13th. Remy Adelike on the 14th. Lara Logan on the 19th. Jay Bhattacharya was amazing. Wrapping up. Jay Bhattacharya was

amazing out at the Brownstone Institute. And Tyler Fisher has got some trouble going with Delta Airline. We'll tell us about that. Laura Logan, we've been trying to talk to her for quite some time. What time is your show on Friday? My show's at 2 p.m. Pacific on Friday

with Eddie, the clairvoyant medium, and Rob Schneider. Schneider put out some really interesting tweets today. He has been on my show before, he and his wife. Voyant Medium and Rob Schneider. Schneider put out some really interesting tweets today too. He has been on my show before, he and his wife. And I just said, hey, you want to come back? And he goes, yes. So it should be fun to look

into his mind and I don't know, it should be a nice Friday afternoon. Yes. All right. So we will see you at noontime Pacific tomorrow at 3 Eastern for Salty Cracker. He should be ultra. The salt will flow after the results of the election. It should be very interesting. We'll see you then.

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