Ask Dr. Drew - Jim Breuer: Comedian & Ex-SNL Cast Member Says Requiring Proof of COVID-19 Vaccination is “Segregation” and He Cancels Shows At Venues That Do – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 317

Episode Date: February 3, 2024

SNL alum Jim Breuer cancelled his shows at venues that required proof of COVID-19 vaccination. “I know I’m going to sacrifice a lot of money, but I’m not going to be enslaved by the system, or by money,” said Breuer. “I have to stick to my morals,” he continued. “I have to stick to what I know is right.” Jim Breuer is a comedian & host of The Breuniverse Podcast, which premieres weekly every Thursday morning on Patreon and Friday on YouTube and https://rumble.com/JimBreuer. He was a cast member of Saturday Night Live from 1995-1998 and starred in 1998’s Half Baked movie with Dave Chappelle. Follow Jim at https://twitter.com/JimBreuer and find tour dates at https://jimbreuer.com Bobbie Anne Cox is a New York civil rights attorney and a Fellow at the Brownstone Institute. She has been practicing law for over 25 years. Follow her at https://x.com/Attorney_Cox and learn more about her quarantine lawsuit at https://UnitingNYS.com/lawsuit and her law firm at https://coxlawyers.com 「 SPONSORED BY 」 Find out more about the companies that make this show possible and get special discounts on amazing products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors • COZY EARTH - Susan and Drew love Cozy Earth's sheets & clothing made with super-soft viscose from bamboo! Use code DREW for a huge discount at https://drdrew.com/cozy • PROVIA - Dreading premature hair thinning or hair loss? Provia uses a safe, natural ingredient (Procapil) to effectively target the three main causes of premature hair thinning and hair loss. Susan loves it! Get an extra discount at https://proviahair.com/drew • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley • GENUCEL - Using a proprietary base formulated by a pharmacist, Genucel has created skincare that can dramatically improve the appearance of facial redness and under-eye puffiness. Get an extra discount with promo code DREW at https://genucel.com/drew • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your personal physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. 「 ABOUT DR. DREW 」 Dr. Drew is a board-certified physician with over 35 years of national radio, NYT bestselling books, and countless TV shows bearing his name. He's known for Celebrity Rehab (VH1), Teen Mom OG (MTV), The Masked Singer (FOX), multiple hit podcasts, and the iconic Loveline radio show. Dr. Drew Pinsky received his undergraduate degree from Amherst College and his M.D. from the University of Southern California, School of Medicine. Read more at https://drdrew.com/about Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Another great show today. Too much show today. We've got Jim Brewer first up. He's going to spend about a half hour with us here. Of course, everyone knows Jim from SNL. He's a comedian. The Bruniverse podcast, which premieres every Thursday morning on Patreon and then Friday on YouTube. Also, you can get it at Rumble slash Jim Brewer. Jim spells his last name in case you don't know. B-R-E-U-E-R. B-R-E-U-E-R. You can also get dates at Jimimbrewer.com for his upcoming comedy tour. Then in the second half of the show, we are welcoming back Bobbi Ann Cox. She's a New York civil rights attorney and a fellow at the Brownstone Institute, and she's

been practicing law for over 25 years. You can follow her on X at attorney underscore Cox, C-O-X, and learn more about her quarantine lawsuit at Uniting New York State, Uniting NYS, unitingnys.com forward slash lawsuit. I don't know if I have Jim's X. I'll try to get that for you when we get back. So stay with us.

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I got hoodwinked because it says Twitter and not X.com. I'm so used to saying X right now. I thought that was interesting that I couldn't even find Twitter on the menu. Yes, Caleb has something he wants to show me. So let's do that. Yeah. So I was looking at my Facebook memories earlier. Can you hear me, Drew, right now? I do. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I was looking at my Facebook memories and I realized that today is January 30th of 2014. And I found this video- last 24 last I 24 what I'm saying today January 30th of 2014 is when this got it our series

hooked on social media continues I will be on TV Dr. Drew the doctor your doctor wants to be when your doctor grows up. Let's get started. I do love that guy. There he is right now joining us, Caleb Nation. We just saw him on his own YouTube channel, which is host Caleb Nation. Do that face for me, Caleb. Oh, my weird face?

Oh, yeah. Just to get it done. It's been seen over 100 million times in like five different music videos because every time I'm in a music video They want me to do that face I actually made that video probably like ten years ago as you can see I had the Justin Bieber hair back then now I Kind of do the more like the One Direction hair thing going up now We are out of time yes, sir, dr. Drew Look at that. That's so funny

That was that was a CNN HLn show that i did for about eight years seven eight years something like that ten years ago yeah and caleb was that that was was that was your first time on that show right first time on the show my first i think it was my first national television appearance and that was i think possibly the first time that you and i met was that day as well ten years and and uh and And I knew immediately I liked you. But you know what you don't know? I'm going to tell you something. I'm going to tell you something.

Oh, I got to hear. Which is because Bert, the EP that was interested, at that point, the television was always trying to bring YouTubers into TV. They're trying to figure that out. And we had a whole bunch of them come through, including you. And nobody could make that transition, but you did, you could, you, you did it. That's why we kept bringing you back. We're like, I get the Caleb guy back. He's fine. He's good. We get him in here. I was like, call me any time, day or night. I'm loving it. Glozell almost did. Glozell almost did. She was okay. But Caleb, you were really very, very good.

We brought you back. So much fun. And then it's like, I don't know if people know, I'll tell the long story a different time, but the short story of how I started working with you is that after I was on your HLN show, then I was on Susan's Calling Out with Susan Penske show. And then I heard her after they had

recorded the podcast. It was my wife and I were on there. And I heard her say, Oh, the podcast. It was my wife and I were on there. And I heard her say, oh, we're having so much trouble with Drew's website. I can't get this thing fixed and this thing fixed. And I just told Susan, well, I know how to fix it. Just like I can do this. It takes me two minutes because I was doing websites back then.

A minute later, I have the passwords to drdrew.com emailed to me right away. You guys had no idea who I was. I did not waste any time. Don't waste any time. Took over drdrew.com. And then I kept working with you and working with you. And calling out with Susan Pinsky.

And that one. Oh, yeah. Read at the website. And then I was like, we've got to do a live stream show. And the rest is history. And the rest is history. We've been doing podcasts for 10 years. Let's bring in the great Jim Brewer.

Speaking of podcasts, here's another great podcaster. Brewniverse. And Jim, if you like my passwords and all my profile, I'll just hand, my wife will hand it over to you. I don't know about me, but Susan clearly hands it over to people. Caleb never gave it back. I can't get it now.

So let's start with your podcast. You can get it on Thursday on Patreon and then Friday on YouTube and of course on Rumble slash Jim Brewer. What's going on this week on Bruniverse? Bruniverse. Well, every week is a little different. This week I had this guy, John Lackey, who is a Boston filmmaker, and he had a very serious addiction. And typical story story no father uh when the father's

not in the picture something goes down he said he was he said he was wasted started drinking i think by third grade or something like that or something so long story short he got he got addicted to um heroin and all these other things and then beat it and so now he's all about going out there making films the prevention of it all and it was a pretty heavy story and the reason why he wanted to come on with his thick boston accent He goes, Brua, I worked at the Comedy Connection and I helped drag your father, bring your father back to his hotel room because he was wasted. You were the kindest guy I ever met in a business. It'd be amazing. It was kind of a full circle. We started

with that moment in time where i did remember it was probably 2007 or 8 around there and my dad was older and i was bringing him around and i told everyone at the club back then i was playing this i was playing this, I was playing club still and I said, don't give my father any booze. We got to hop on a tour bus and I got to drive seven hours. I can't have an 83 year old man

wasted going 80 miles an hour down the freeway and I got to get up every 15 minutes to help him go in the bathroom. Well, yes, show's over and we're dragging my father down the stairs. So that's who's on this week. Every week is different. Once in a while, I'll have comedians.

I'm going away for a month. So this month, we had some serious topics. That sounds ominous i'm going away where are you going dude i'm going away from i'll be yeah i know it does sound like i'm going away but i'm going on vacation literally for for the entire month of february i'm going to wow uh yeah i go to i go to tanzania a lot i go to uh i'm going to jamaica for a wedding gonna spend some time there but i'm i can't wait to go to tanzania it'll be my third or fourth time there i love going there so to that point um i i find myself fantasizing about fleeing from this country

and particularly from this state all the time now. Actually, not because of anything specific, just because so many things are disturbing and upsetting, I keep feeling like I should have some sort of exit plan or strategy or get away something because things are truly

out of control in so many ways. What do you think about that? They really are. i did a tour out there uh maybe two three months ago and i until you see it first of all just the gas i i performed i think i was in uh like alabama and mississippi gas was 260 260 i go to california you're you you're on the ocean they could bring you gas very it was five and change i it's so so the reason you know the reason the the reason is they will not allow them this is typical typical. No, no, no. They tell you it's the oil companies gouging you.

They leave off the buck and a half tax that we tag on to everything. It's about a buck and a half tax. And the tax goes to homeless, which is the number one priority for our governor. And look at what a great job he's done. Look at how much of that money has gone to good use. So total waste, but a buck and a half of it is that. The other is they're not permitted to develop more refineries. So we're so far from all the refineries,

and we have like two in the whole state, that we can't refine enough oil. So the supply is completely choked and that raises the price and of course they don't no one tells anybody that but that is the reason well you got to give him credit he did clear the homelessness in san francisco and now we know all you have to do is bring over the chinese leader and perhaps he can clear all homelessness that was maybe maybe jim if quite the move no jim i have not planned maybe if you declared yourself a communist leader or you have some type and maybe on your behalf we could get everything cleared up because he clearly

clearly has great affection for communist leaders well isn't that mean, don't you think when you look at all this, it clearly is being done on purpose. I mean, it's just, it's blatantly obvious. or doing more going in the rabbit hole, it makes zero sense. It's almost like, hey, we're going to let the country go, but we're going to do it very slowly, and by the time it's done, you're not even going to know it happened. It's purposely driving you out of the state. But what blows my mind more than anything, your state is 90% red.

So I don't understand how San Francisco and Los Angeles determine how your entire state feels. And they're by far perhaps the worst cities to visit in the entire. It is it's almost like they're laughing at you and they're taunting you. Go ahead, do something. There's nothing you can do about it. And, you know, when I did the shows out there, as a joke, I'd say, I don't understand how Californians have not just went to the mansion of your governor and go, can we, can you come outside for a little bit?

We at least want to discuss some things. We just want to talk to you for a minute out there as he's combing his hair and whitening his teeth a little more. But listen, Jim, now that Nancy Pelosi is spending a little more time in Northern California, there are people showing up outside her house and screaming about things. And she yells back at them, go back to China, as though anybody who would disagree with her. I kid you not, look it up.

And if anyone who would disagree with her must be funded by the Chinese Communist Party. Talk about misreading the audience. This is not that crowd, I promise you. That probably is out there, but not these folks. Do you think there's going to be some type of movement? I don't... I think part of the reason, too, is why

I'm planning to leave the country a lot this year, because I think this is going to be the beginning of one of the craziest times in human history. Not just American history. I hope not.

I hope you're wrong. You could be. But I do think it is an important time for everybody to stand up for basic civil liberties. Oh, there's Pansy Pelosi yelling back. Do you have that video? No. Most of your constituents walk beside you. Pelosi yelling back. Do you have that video? No. Go back to China.

Can you imagine if I said that as a comedian, if I just said that to someone heckling me. They're heckling me to say, hey, go back to China. Oh, I'd be all over the news the next day. trump kids or or my neighbor or a ceo here's here's a leader of the country forever and she's gone get back to china they're mocking you they're the way she said it intelligence and by the way i i just had a deep a profound insight she would make a great goat girl and so maybe next time you do gutfeld

have cat do pelosi as goat girl and you do goat boy and you can go back and forth that would be hysterical she she would be a good goker i'm telling you i i heard it i i did hear it too i did hear it for a little bit that and i was kind of waiting for the dentures to fall out. Not that there's... I just don't... I feel like we're at a point in society where they're literally...

They're going, what else can we plan, Sire, to distract them? How about aliens in the mall? Yes. But only if it's in miami like just it never ends it's bizarre no jim i have i have a book for you i have a book for you i was talking to bill maher about this issue and how i was seeing things evolve and unravel and he goes i just read a book it's called like cynical theory i think it's called susan looked at it caleb looked that up cynical theories and i'd read it i've read it twice now it impressed the hell out of me i've been devouring it i i recommend you read it because it is how the you're trying to make sense of these

things that seem impossible and our brains naturally assume there must be some sinister or something behind it but it's much more complicated as most things in life are. And it really goes back to post-structuralism and how they have captured academia and captured language. And Noam Chomsky and his bullshit have all been embraced. And the rest of the world laughs at us for this. There it is. Cynical theories. And these two Britishish one of the

physicists brilliant brilliant writers and um the point is the french laugh at us they're like you're preoccupied with philosophers from that we dispensed with 75 nearly a hundred years ago and you're allowing these guys that we dispense as useless and wrong demonstrably wrong as the guiding principle for your philosophical foundation of your politics and your economic i mean this is bad times so it goes through that very carefully well i i think I think, listen, I'm dumb as a rock, but when- I don't think so. When we think about things like, didn't we, here's where I started getting confused and I'm kind of going, I don't know where I'm at here, but years ago, didn't we fight to

get rid of taxes? And didn't we fight the British to get rid of taxes and didn't we fight the British to get rid of taxes? I don't understand. When did we then all of a sudden become their best friends? It was a world war two. Um, I I'm starting to see there's so much history that I just don't believe

anymore. And I saw something really cool. I saw something really cool on the internet the other day it was a guy it was a it was a professor and he showed a blue circle and it was a red circle and and and he said and it said this is how easy it is to manipulate people and the blue circle on the and i think it was an orange circle whatever the other color was he goes yeah one of these circles is larger than the other and i said yeah yeah i my instinct said no it is the same size but he said no one of these is larger and

he had the entire classroom voting on who thinks the blue is larger you know and i and then as as i was looking i went you know what the blue is a little larger and then he revealed no they're the same but i got all of you to vote and i got all of you to go against your natural instinct and that is what i call the demons the monsters have figured out. They've figured out how to take humanity and attack your natural instinct on everything, whether it's politics, health, everything. And that's a very dangerous place to be. Yeah. And so brainwashing, persuasion, these things have been perfected and we have

fallen victim to a lot of that stuff and there's a certain amount of natural hysteria that we get into particularly when there's a lot of narcissism in the personality constructs i believe at least uh and you know i know you've been very critical of lockdowns in particular but it is just so astonishing that things like six feet which was was six feet distancing, which was something that was invented out of thin air, thin air, and the whole world did it. That to me is the astonishing part. We were hoodwinked in so many ways, and I can't believe people defend it. That's the thing that's mysterious to me now. They're very defensive about it. It's like no not good yeah no what bothers i i got over the first i was in shock because i never fell for it i didn't fall for it for one

second i thought this was the craziest voodoo trick on all the humanity and when i saw it going down in front of my eyes and just like you said people would get vicious foam at the mouth as if you're the uh you're the murderer and it's incredible. Can you see that what's on the screen? See what's on the screen there? Yeah, 100%. And I made a video and I had no clue

that I was going to be the beginning of something. I just was being honest. And I feel that. I still don't know, by the way, why more wasn't made of that. Not so much you doing that, because I remember in New York having to show my stupid vaccine card to go in a restaurant.

I had the illness and the vaccine because we traveled to Europe and I had to have it. And they were kind of worse over there in many ways. But I kept thinking, wait a minute, most of the unvaccinated that I know are black and we're really going to ostracize black Americans from walking into a restaurant? Are you kidding me? unvaccinated that i know are black and we're really going to ostracize black americans from walking into a restaurant are you kidding me and i still don't know why more wasn't made of that

well i mean think of this the stupidity i hate to say stupidity but at the end of decisions and the people. You can go to a New York restaurant and you can sit outside. If you sit inside, you've got to wear a mask, but you can walk through the restaurant. There was just zero common sense. And even the shot, and i kept telling people this is this was a big moment in time when i knew this was demonic evil say whatever you want to say i i i took i took ivermectin and i took some vitamins and when you have a guy like joe rogan and he says hey i took i took it doesn't

matter what he took i took chocolate bar i i bounced up and down three times and i farted yankee doodle now if it was that serious don't you think the world would go whoa whoa whoa whoa he is healed maybe we should hear what he has to say and the masters that control the media we should look into who really controls media the masters that control the cdc who really controls the cdc who controls all these decisions because they are the demons of society they demonized him with the whole heat horse dewormer which now i i had someone on the podcast who just started taking in horse dewormer to treat his cancer i'm not saying you should do that but he'll sit here and tell you right to your face he was stage four and he was

in hospice after years and years of years and they finally said there's nothing more we can do and he goes to tractor supply i went what and he takes he takes a scoop of whatever he does. I don't know the name of it. And it makes you wonder, the people that have been running all of this, they're the ones I'd like to see people showing up at the homes and the actual... I don't want to see the speaker of the CDC. I want to see the entire panel. I want to see every decision maker. I want to see every newscaster.

I want to see everyone who wrote the script for the news. I want to see every top level doctor that insists on it. Let's see their faces out in the public nonstop every day because they're the ones that went out of their way to destroy society, in my opinion, in a vicious, demonic, pure evil manner. They knew what they were doing. I don't care what anyone says. They knew exactly what they were doing. I'll refer you to a guy named Mark Ciancheseankisi again another formal physicist who's now a social psychologist he studies this and he he has a again another good construct of how these things happen

and he said all social evil is always done in the name of doing good always no matter what genocide or what insanity or what not whatever always in the name of doing good. That's one aspect of it. What was the other thing? Oh, and the other thing about Joe Rogan that was even more offensive to me is he said, what Joe said was, here's what my doctor did for me, okay? And whatever he and his doctor did together

is nobody's damn business, nobody's. That is between the two of them only. And not only is it none of your business, you have no business even knowing what they did. And Jim, one of the really interesting things was people reacted to the ivermectin. That was not the interesting thing. He gave him two NAD inf infusions that was way outside the usual recommendations and that was really interesting and i told joe that and he said yeah and i think it helped me because he also got monoclonal antibodies and that really helped of course but uh but nad infusions well that was craziness and uh nobody picked that up because they don't know they were just in hysteria about certain words it was just like nothing i'd ever seen yeah and and people have to get they have to get aware because something tells me that was only

the that was the first big test i don't know what they're gonna try in the next go around it may not even be health-wise it could be a whole i don't know i well yeah well let me ask i promise let you go at uh i promise let you go at the bottom of the hour but but i i don't think people will fall for stuff quite so easily so what do you want people to do next time something uh challenges their civil liberties frankly that tries to come after them in the name of something what do you want people to do well here's what i honestly say listen i i i am a believer of higher energy god whatever we are designed we've been designed to use an instinct it is a superpower. We are superpowers and we've been taught not to believe that. You know when something's wrong with your body. You know when something's off mentally, physically, spiritually.

We are designed, listen to your instinct. Because people love experts. They love scientists. They put on a lab coat and you believe them. Stop believing everything you see. There are false idols. I never understood that phrase of false idols.

Your pop star is a false idol. Your ball player is a false idol. Your government is a false idol. Your ball player is a false idol. Your government's a false idol. They're false idols. Only you have the answers within. Trust them. And be fearless while everyone else panics and everyone else wants to run in a frenzy.

Be fearless because that's when the warriors will rise and we will conquer and tune into bruniverse on friday or thursday if you want to go to patreon and i think we start releasing saturday but it doesn't all right fair enough uh but whatever it is follow jim uh jim great to see you it's been a minute i promise i'll let you go right now yeah you too and good luck with everything and of course i'll see you when i get out we're all big fans okay man thank you also maybe see you in new york uh the next time i do gutfeld i'll check in with you see if you're over there okay so what we will do is uh take a little break and then we're going to welcome our next guest back at bobby and cox as i said she's a civil rights attorney so we're going to welcome our next guest back at bobby and cox as i said she's a

civil rights attorney so we're going to get a little more of the weeds of this topic of civil protecting civil rights she's a fellow at the brownstone institute and practicing law for a long time you can follow her on x attorney underscore cox cox and uh let's see what else she's yeah one of the things she's fighting is the isolation and quarantine procedures that the governor is stepping up it's's just, some of this stuff is mind boggling. So I can't wait to get into it with her. So don't go away. We'll be right back after this. Well, most of my career I've been urging people to kick habits, change habits. Well, this time I'd like to suggest getting into the habit of adding Paleo Valley grass-fed bone broth

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at attorney underscore cox um and find out more about her quarantine lawsuit at uniting i hope i'm saying that correct uniting nys.com forward slash lawsuit and her law firm is coxlawyers.com. Please welcome Bobbi Ann. Bobbi Ann, welcome. Welcome back. Bobbi Ann, great to see you again. There we are. We had no mic for a second. So I just start with a sort of 30,000-foot view here. What's preoccupying you these days?

I know you've been very concerned about that quarantine law. Is that the totality of what's occupying your time? No, no. We've got lots of irons in the fire over here in New York. I figured. I figured. Yeah. So the quarantine lawsuit against Governor Hochul and her Department of Health is still raging on. When I was on your show last, we had just had oral arguments on that case. We won, just to remind your viewers, we won this lawsuit against Governor Hochul back in 2022. And we got her isolation and quarantine procedures regulation struck down as unconstitutional. The most draconian regulation I've ever read or heard of in my entire

life. And I've been practicing law for 25 years. But that was struck down in 2022 by the trial court. And she appealed. She and the Attorney General, Letitia James, here in New York, appealed that. And we had just had oral arguments at the appellate court when we came on your show, Senator Borrello and myself. He's my lead plaintiff. And then we got the decision from the appellate division in November of 2023. And they dismissed our case and said that my plaintiffs had no standing, which is completely wrong. And it's a calamitous decision. Obviously, a sitting New York State Senator and assembly members, because I also represent Assemblyman Chris Teague, Assemblyman Mike Lawler, who's now Congressman Mike Lawler, and a citizens group, Uniting New York State. And obviously,

this group has standing, I mean, especially the legislators who are challenging their authority to make laws versus an agency under the governor's authority to make laws, right? It's horrendous, this decision. So we just filed our appeal with the Court of Appeals last week, and that is the highest court in New York State. So we are waiting to see as this battle rages on how it's going to pan out. But yeah, this is the unbelievable, astonishing decision from the appellate

court. My plaintiffs don't have standing, apparently. I think, which is wild, but only as wild as so many of the things we're all reading and hearing about throughout the land frankly not just in new york in terms of i don't know how to frame it i'm hoping you can help me with this the

behavior of our uh judicial system i don't know how else to frame it except that that it's been sort of like mind-boggling some of the decisions and sort of difficult to understand why there can be such massive variation in opinions? What has happened to our legal system? Yeah, it is astonishing. I am really stunned by this decision from the appellate court. I mean, it, first of all, it flies in the face of logic, right? I mean, if you have a group of New York state lawmakers who are saying that an agency has usurped their power, the agency took their lawmaking power, that obviously gives standing, right? You have, you're saying I have been injured by the act of this other person, this agency that sits under the governor. Obviously, you have the right to bring a case in a court of law to ask them to settle the dispute. And our trial court judge acknowledged

that, right? The trial court judge ruled on the case. He said, yeah, you know, he didn't even talk about standing. Of course we have standing. He was talking about the actual merits of the case. You know, this regulation would allow if they reissue it, because now the Department of Health is free to reissue this regulation if they want, thanks to this horrible decision, it would allow the Department of Health to lock up or lock down any New Yorkers that they deemed, they don't even have to prove it, that they deemed that they think maybe is a public health risk. So if they don't have to prove you're actually sick, the regulation didn't say that they had to give any notice, so they could just knock on your door and issue you an isolation or a quarantine order.

They could lock you down in your house, but they could also take you from your house and put you into a facility of their choosing where you have no say where you go. You have no say how long you stay there. They could tell you how long you stay there. No restrictions, days, months, weeks. I get it. They're draconian. But I want to go back around on the attorneys. I'm sometimes hearing lawyers, excuse me, on the judges. I'm sometimes hearing lawyers say things like, well, these judges, they're just people too. They read the same papers and watch the same news and they watch, you know, whatever. And have they, have the, I mean,

judges in this country been captured with a hysteria, a mass formation or something? A lot of them where they really have lost their ability to make good judgment. It's just, I'm trying, I'm really struggling with how they could say some of the things and do some of the things they do. And if you were hysterical,

if you believed you were, you know, that you were preventing the, you know, that this was necessary to prevent the death of millions of people, why wouldn't you? The kind of weird hysteria that people were in during COVID, if you still had that, you'd make some terrible decisions. There'd be no risk reward in any of your decisions at all.

Yeah, and here's the thing. In New York State, it's not the same in every state. Each state has their own state court system, and the state decides how their court system is run. But here in New York State, our trial court level judges, so that's the first level of court that you go into when you file a lawsuit, those judges are elected by the people. Whereas when you get to the appellate division, when you want to appeal a case, whether it's the middle court or it's our highest court in New York State, those judges are all appointed by a governor. So you do have a difference, which is a big difference, between the population electing their judges

versus those judges being appointed by an executive, whether it's the governor or it's the president. In the federal court system, all of the judges, whether they're the trial court level judges or the appellate court level judges, or, you know, obviously the United States Supreme Court, all those judges are appointed by the president. So, you know, personally, I mean, there's a difference of opinion, of course, but personally, I think judges should be elected. I think the population should elect their judges.

It's very dangerous when you don't have people in charge, people in command who aren't responsible and responsive to the people, to the voters. So, you know, I can't speak for what's going on with certain judges in certain cases, but hey, I mean, our trial court judge ruled in our favor as he should have. And now we have to go now fight for another year, right? This case started two years ago. And we have to now try and go fight in front of the highest court in New York State. It's just it's such a huge waste of taxpayer resources. You know, the governor and the AG never should have appealed this case once we won. They should have said, Oh, sorry, you know, we overstepped we made a regulation that was a violation of the constitution sorry about that

no they're fighting tooth and nail to get this power back it's it's unbelievable and they're using your tax dollars to do it but the the the unbelievability about how our taxpayer tax dollars are spent and the enthusiasm of cracking down on our civil liberties seems to be both current really serious trends right now. Where else are you having to fight so people can speak their mind and travel freely? Where else is that being encumbered that you're worried about right now? Yeah, so I also just filed a lawsuit a couple months ago together with a colleague of mine against New York State again. And this case is trying to force the New York State legislature to properly follow the Constitution um in trying to amend the constitution so here in new york state um our legislature is controlled uh super majority controlled by the democrats and they have it the entire legislature so both houses our state senate

and our state assembly um super majority democrat control, which means they don't even need one Republican vote to make a law. And it's very dangerous. It doesn't matter which party has total control. It's very dangerous when only one party has total control at the government level, because there is no conversation, there is no compromise, there is no hearing the other side of the story. And here in New York, not just our legislature is a Democrat, but our governor is also a Democrat, and our attorney general is also a Democrat. So we're seeing complete one-party rule here. And the abolition of our rights is astonishing. It's been that way in New York for about five years now. And the exodus of New Yorkers from this state to other states is tremendous. over the last few years because the tax base, the people, are leaving the state. And it's because of all the horrendous policies that the legislature and the governor and the attorney general are putting into place. But this other lawsuit that I'm working on right now

against the state is to try to force them, force the legislature to follow the proper steps as clearly laid out in our state constitution in order to amend the state constitution. They skipped a step. They want to change our constitution. They want to change language in there, which if they are successful and if my lawsuit is not successful, that change to our constitution will go on the ballot in this coming November. And it'll probably pass because they make the words sound so lovely and so pleasant, but people don't understand what those words really mean. And so it will ultimately end up meaning that the legislature will be free to abolish parental rights in New York State.

So, you know, it's very dangerous when we don't keep the government in check. You can't amend our constitution by skipping a step. There are steps laid out in the process. Follow each step and then you can change the Constitution. But don't be so brass and think that you can skip a step and then still change the Constitution. You know, it's just this really unfortunate and prevalent notion by the government. And it's not just in New York State. We are seeing this at the federal level as well. This notion that they can just do whatever they want. You know, constitution be damned. They don't care about the constitution. They don't like the constitution because they're restricted by the constitution, but they just ignore it and they do whatever they want to do, even if they know they don't have the power, and then their attitude is, well, catch me if you can, bring a lawsuit, try and stop me. And if the judge tells me to stop, okay, then maybe I'll stop. If the judge doesn't tell me to stop, well, then I'm just going to keep doing whatever it is I'm doing that I'm not supposed to be doing. So it's very dangerous. Lawsuits are good. They are a good tool, but they take time. They take money. They take energy and they take attorneys willing to bring those lawsuits and go up against the grain. So this is very dangerous. We have to change the leadership at the top. That is the way we get out of this mess. Well, I mean, I suppose I would be sympathetic were I not living in a state where it's actually worse.

So because California is your model and no one's fighting back here that I can see. So I just admire that you're in there swinging away. All right. Well, listen, I just let's kind of wrap up here. Are there anything you want people to be aware of or take note of going forward? Yeah. You know, it's really important. This is an election year, as everybody knows, right?

We have the president up for election. In many of the states, we have other very important races. Many members of Congress are up for election this year. Here in New York, we have a U.S. senator up for election. Several seats in the House of Representatives are up for election. And so, you know, this is an opportunity for voters who are sick and tired of what's going on, no matter what state you live in. If you don't like what's going on in your state, if you don't like what's going on at the federal level, this is a great opportunity to help get the vote out and try and change it. You know, people think, oh, well, it's only January.

We don't have any elections till November. Well, that's true. But in some cases, there are going to be primaries so people can get involved with and stay on top of primary races. But also, you have to start talking about these issues now, because a lot of people, when it comes to election day, they just, you know, hey, they make it, oh, well, you know, I have other plans or I'm just really, or I have other things going on. But if you understand the really important issues that are at hand right now in this country, I'm hoping it's going to spur enough people to go to the polls and bring people with them, bring your friends, bring your family members, because we have to change the leadership at the top. And I'm not just talking about the president, I'm talking about in all levels of government, whether it's our state government, our federal government, whether it's in the House of Representatives or the Senate. We are seeing a flat out invasion in this country right now at our southern border. And we have a president that is refusing to enforce our laws.

We have immigration laws. We've had them for a long time. But this administration under Biden is not enforcing those laws. That doesn't mean those laws go away. Those laws are still in place. It's just that they're not being enforced. And it's to the detriment of American citizens. It is an unsafe situation because you're seeing unvetted people come across that border list were stopped from coming into the country. They were trying to come through illegally, come through the southern border in just 2023 alone. So, you know, we really have a problem here. We don't have any sort of national security, and that is so dangerous. And, you know, people ask me all the time, why are we sending 113 billion with a B billion dollars to secure the borders of Ukraine,

for example, but we're not spending any money to secure our borders. In fact, we're spending approximately $2 billion a year here in this country to break our immigration laws and bring in all these people across the southern border. Because again, Biden is paying for them to come in. He's paying for them to go wherever state they want to go to. He's paying for their food and their housing. Well, I say he. We are paying for it.

It's our tax dollars. So it's a very dangerous situation. And, you know, asylum seekers, absolutely. Are we a nation of immigrants? Absolutely. But you have laws for a reason. And we have to follow the laws, because otherwise, we're putting Americans at risk. So yeah, this is a hugely important year. We really do need people to get involved and understand what's going on at a federal level, at a state level. Otherwise, we're going to have a really big problem when our resources are no longer there, when our voices are no longer being heard. New York City, this isn't the state of New York,

but New York City passed an ordinance a couple years ago allowing non-citizens to vote in the New York City elections. That was challenged in law, in a court of law. That was struck down. But do you know that Mayor Adams in New York City is appealing that decision? You know, why would you be doing that? You know, well, you know, put two and two together. He's declared, you know, it's a sanctuary city. They're bringing in hundreds of thousands of unvetted illegal migrants across the southern border, shipping them into New York City, and he's

fighting to get them the right to vote. You know, it's unbelievable. People really do. I get frustrated because I feel like not a lot of Americans know what's going on. And that's a huge problem. It's a huge problem. If you don't know what's happening around you, and if you don't know what your rights are, then you can't stick up for yourself. So, you know, that's why I really appreciate coming on your show, talking about these topics, trying to get people to understand what's going on, and to understand what their rights are. We have a lot of, we have a lack of teaching of the Constitution. There are no more civics classes taught in our schools. They've stopped teaching cursive in our schools. You know, they're doing these things on purpose because they don't want people to understand what their

rights are. They don't want you to read the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, which are written in cursive. They don't want you to know what your rights are because they don't want you to enforce your rights. It's very dangerous. It's very dangerous. And only the people can turn this around by getting educated, staying involved, and being engaged. Really, I can't stress enough how important that is. Otherwise, we are going to lose this country. It's not going to be the country that you and I grew up in. That is for sure. I mean, I appreciate it. I'm glad you're here to send out that warning, and hopefully people will take heed and go to the ballot box when the time comes and also stand up and express themselves.

It is also a time for discourse and honesty and not cowing to the pressures that are out there against your liberties, particularly your speech liberties. It's time to speak up if you have an opinion and you know and this head discourse that's how it's how you learn it's how people figure things out it's together so uh bobby and cox thank you so much for joining us yes thank you for having me on i appreciate it you bet you can find her at attorney underscore cox on uh x and i'm going to take a couple questions oh susan you got a comment i was just thinking about how we were in Miami and also in Orlando this week and how everybody's so happy down there.

We always say, Florida, people are just super happy down there. We're at the podcast, Podcast Hall of Fame, giving Adam his award. Which I forgot to take to him today. Which is great. And Caleb was saying earlier

that he's been with us for 10 years I can't believe we've been doing podcasts for 10 years it was crazy well we didn't start with podcasts right away you did the website for a few years I was already doing one what's that Caleb? well yeah you guys were doing podcasts before

but you just didn't do the live stream video stuff like turning it into a whole show yeah that was the new thing and that hasn't been going a full 10 years well i did facebook live though remember that i put up a camera on my phone and i yeah i put it up on it was so bad wayne's world it was so bad my wayne's world couch and my psychic mediums and then we had this life with bob and that was as. And then we had This Life with Bob. Bob Forrest. That was a good show.

And then we had Weekly Infusion. And we did the Swole Patrol. Dr. Bruce. Mm-hmm. And then Caleb came in and cleaned everything up. We had a guy running the podcast. But Caleb was the, I had no idea he could run the V-Mix. I was so excited when he said, I can do this.

And remember, you wanted to put this on Twitch to begin with. You wanted a million-dollar contract. That was the original idea. And then, yeah, Twitch dropped the ball on that. They could have had an exclusive here. It's so funny. And we didn't know about things like Rumble and whatnot.

Yeah, but it was so weird because I was thinking, how long have we been doing this? And what's really strange is that this was my baby with the whole podcast thing. And nobody told me what I had to do or not do. I had a free country. And Drew was on CNN. And we couldn't have a sponsor. We never had a sponsor before because we weren't allowed to. What Susan is also saying is that we were at the podcast awards, met lots of different lovely people who do podcasting.

And Susan didn't realize how much she knew about podcasting and streaming until she started describing what we've been doing. They asked you a question. He goes, I don't know, ask her. But it's just really interesting to see where we've come and i mean there were so many podcasters there and they had all different things and everybody's very creative and and they you know they do what they love and they some of them make money some of them don't they and pretty much everybody's getting screwed by the uh by the advertising agencies that they work for and you, we had a lot in common there.

But Caleb, your hair is so funny. I forgot you had all that hair. It was my wife. It weighed more than you did. Oh, yeah. It was, yeah, because whenever I first started dating my wife, I had Justin Bieber hair, like all the way down into my eyes and she quickly cleaned me up. It's like she came in and

she got me a haircut and like, it was pretty much within a week of us dating. I asked, look, this is a common theme, I guess, guys. I was like, I can't be dating you with your website looking that bad. Give me your, so she gave me all the logins and i redesigned her website that was my love language to my my wife when we were dating is give me all all your logins and i'll fix your website dear that's how you know you were yeah i remember having a meeting with harvard lapidus at hln and when he's like i don't know what to do with this shit like susan does a web website and podcast like i don't know c Caleb's a good guy to talk to. And I was like, yeah. Remember that meeting?

You weren't there. I was there. Oh, she was. Susan was. I was at one of them. Susan was. At that meeting that we went to, Howard? Yeah.

Yeah. Strangely enough, that was also the first time I met Susan. And Susan was just in the meeting. And I was thinking, wait, Drew's wife is a part of this? I didn't know how big of a deal she was with the whole the whole setup well that was howard's brilliance he just said we're gonna give this to susan she's gonna do this stuff i did i mean i was behind the scenes in your like radio and you know i don't know we didn't know that travel and website no and people still don't know that i mean some people are

starting to figure it out now and and they're like, what? But it's so funny because I didn't really think anything about it. Like, I'm like a producer. I just like to be in the background. I don't really want to be in the front and toot my horn or whatever. But I realized that it's been a—you're in my baby, not just my baby, because you... Oh, my gosh. Look at that. My baby Bieber hair.

Wow. Oh, my gosh. It's so funny. Look at that hoodie. Did you have problems getting on planes after 9-11? I had a problem when I wore a bra. You know what's weird about... About what?

Jenny Hunt was the co-host, and Sam Shocker was one of the guests in that little panel. That was a great show. Sam, later on, did you know... Oh, what is his name? There was a guy that was always on the HLN show who's now on Queer Eye. Oh, what's his name? Yeah, Karamo. Karamo.

Yeah. Karamo. He was on your show a lot. Karamo was on my podcast. Yeah, yeah. He was a huge star. Karamo was on my podcast. Yeah, yeah. He was a huge star. He was also on my podcast calling out- No, we started a whole bunch of people.

We launched a bunch of people in the TV. I made sure everybody who was a celebrity on HLN was on my podcast getting psychic readings. That was sort of- So funny. The rest is- And you and Taylor. And you know, Colby actually predicted you having kids. Like you guys were trying and stuff.

And she called it out. I have stories for you about Colby predicting stuff. It was pretty wild. And then the spirits would come in and screw with the electronics. And we'd always have like a lot of technical. I would love to take a couple of. Can I? Yeah, I was going to say, can I take just a couple of calls for you? Yeah, do it.

Hit it. I don't know. I just had to... Gator Nation. This must be somebody from Florida, I'm guessing. Free! And then Josh will get you next. So Drew's mic sounds a little hot, by the way, Caleb.

I just want to let you know. Caleb was complaining about the echoing in here, Susan. All right. Unmute yourself. There you are. Gator, what's going on there? I can turn it down a little bit. Gator?

Hey. Hey, Dr. Drew. What's happening? Can't help but comment on Bobby's remarks about New York as a person who was born and raised, lived there for 40 some odd years. Are you still there? No, fortunately I'm in a battleground state. Okay. But my entire family, brothers, sisters, everybody is leaving. And I'm just wondering what your take, I respect your opinion tremendously,

what your take is on states like that, states like California. What is the end game? I mean, there's people, you know, this is just my opinion, but I feel we're being attacked by, you know, Mexico, the Middle East, China, in the forms of precursors for crystal meth, heroin, everything. being slowly bled as a country. And I think it's not just happening in New York and California. It's happening in Portland, Oregon. It's happening in Tennessee. It's happening in West Virginia. And I feel like we will not be a world power in 10 to 15 years.

And that is heavy and depressing. That could easily be. It's all heavy. Because I live in California, people are fleeing here at an even higher rate than New York. We were in the great state of Florida over the weekend and we always comment. We go down there, how happy everybody is, how things function, businesses thrive, people are out doing things, socializing. It's like going to a different country. And it's just, to me, sad. And I've seen things turn around before. I told Michael Malice the other day that I remember when the 80s kind of kicked in, the 70s

sucked the way this sucks in a kind of different way, but it felt as hopeless as this. And it changed fast. It changed all of a sudden. So things change but i i always you know adam kroll and i do a podcast on a regular basis and i always ask him that same question you're asking me and he goes i know he goes what's going to be is going to be there are going to be safe spaces and octagons that people are going to go in rejecting some of what's going on people are going to get more into sort of extreme ideas like fighting in octagons and people who are still bound to the these these sort of uh these concerning ideas are going to end up in just safe spaces and there's going to be states that thrive and states that really struggle that's

when it's going to get to be really challenging because they're going to have, they're going to come to the states that are thriving and say, take care of us. Right. And to your point, uh, you know, growing up in New York, you know, in the, you know, I was born in 72. So, you know, going to the city in the eighties, it was like, you just, you didn't go to time square. You just, you know, unlesspocket or whatever. But I feel like, to your point, you hit it on the nose when you said there was abrupt change.

I think that's because when they formed the DEA or they formed different task forces and things like that, that a lot of people don't like. But we're at this point now where all these agencies are in effect, but they're doing nothing. I mean, if I have a sinus infection, I got to show my ID to buy one box of Advil cold

sinus, yet there's 100 pound bags of pseudofetan coming in by the boatload to our country. It's like, what is going on here? Yeah, I know. Thank you, my friend. I appreciate speaking to you.

Thank you. But the lack of rational consistency. Christina P and I used to do a streaming pod and YouTube channel together. And we'd always say, there's got to be a rational revolution. We had a high sign for it. This is welcome the rational revolution. It's got to recur. Here's molten salt, Susan. You ever wonder what molten salt

looks like? Oh, I don't hear you. I don't know why, but my earphones just went out. Let me... Salt. Good to see you. talk to you in person unmute yourself there hello hey how are you sir i'm all right how are you doing let me turn you off on the audio over here there you go i can't hear you not coming through my headphones how about now no it's on my end it's all the weird echo it's a

weird echo there calling in honor of jay hep i'll let you go i can't sort out my just turn the volume down a little bit and we'll be able to do it like just turn it down a little bit yes we do we don't have to bring it back to us yeah face the phone away from you. All right, so what's on your mind? Well, I actually very much agree with the previous caller. I went to Dollar General, and they're selling, what is this stuff? It's the stuff they make methamphetamines out of. They're selling it for a dollar. Right, right. And that's not a good situation.

It's all coming from china and uh yeah i think a lot more is coming from china yeah that's about all i have to say okay i appreciate it sir good to hear your voice uh it is uh astonishing what we allow it's it's just sort of so much needs to be cleaned up it's hard to i i you know i please everybody uh voltaire was worried about this i see caleb's running the uh credits we got to run for the exit here i'm afraid to say um but he he was trying to struggle voltaire was struggling with all the horrible stuff that was going on in the world. And his traveling partner kept talking about how wonderful everything is, the best of all possible worlds. It's God's will. And it's just an absolute perfection. All the while,

they were looking at the Lisbon earthquake victims and horrible things wherever they went. And finally, he came home and he said, we each need to take care of our garden. Take care of your own family, take care of your own family take care of your own relationships be healthy do it in a way that is a model for other people remember kant's first injunction you know behave make your choices in such a way that your actions can be a universal principle find some sort of spiritual something find a purpose find a way to have a good life. And if we each did that, things would start to move in the right direction, but we have to really start to pay attention.

All right, tomorrow, speaking of paying attention, Joseph Latipo is in here. I love that guy, Larry Elder. Roseanne coming in. We're gonna get Del Bigtree, you guys have asked for him. Nicky and Jim Norton are actually coming in studio. You'll love him. Alex, Jimmy Dore, Alex Berenson with Kelly Victory

coming back on Valentine's Day's day uh some of those uh times i think we're going to shift the times around coming up we have like adam carolla coming in here and stuff and who else there's somebody else coming on a different time zone or a different time of day uh so he was coming so and then somebody that's on yeah those are moving March. Yeah, we're moving around the map. So on March 6th, we're at March 6th at 1 p.m. Pacific. It's going to be Dave Rubin. And then on March 12th, that's a Tuesday,

that's going to be 4 p.m. Pacific with Adam Carolla. All right. Yeah, so check Twitter. We always put the times up there. And you guys make these requests. Or if you're on Locals, you can get it.

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