Ask Dr. Drew - Jimmy Dore on Dr. Fauci, Comedy, Woke Ideology & How To Enrage Both Conservatives & Liberals – Ask Dr. Drew – Episode 205

Episode Date: April 16, 2023

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Well, you guys have repeatedly asked for him, and now we have him. We bring the great Jimmy Dore to you today. He's the star of several Comedy Central specials, author of the bestseller, Your Country Is Just Not That Into You, and host, of course, of The Jimmy Dore Show. You can see the show at YouTube slash The Jimmy Dore Show, D-O-R-E. There is the book, Your Country Is Just Not That Into You. Follow him on Twitter at Jimmy underscore Dore. And, yeah, particularly you guys over at Rumble have been asking for Jimmy.

So we brought him on in. This should be very interesting. We'll get right to it. Our laws as it pertained to substances are draconian and bizarre. The psychopath started this. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction, fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous. I'm a doctor for f***'s sake. Where the hell do you think I learned that?

I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals. Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Loveline all the time. Educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat. If you have trouble, you can't stop and you want help stopping, I can help. I got a lot to say. I got a lot more to treat. If you have trouble, you can't stop and you want to help stop it, I can help. I got a lot to say. I got a lot more to say. TD Direct Investing offers live support.

So whether you're a newbie or a seasoned pro, you can make your investing steps count. And if you're like me and think a TFSA stands for Total Fund Savings Adventure, maybe reach out to TD Direct Investing. Again, support Jimmy at Jimmy underscore door on Twitter and get that book. Your country is just not that into you. A reminder that we have Robert F. Kennedy coming in on Monday. We have Tuesday, Naomi Wolf, the 18th, and April 25th, which is also a Tuesday, Dr. Asim Malhotra. These are repeat performances by some of our folks that have been very interesting in the past.

I want to hear more of what they have to say. As I said, Jimmy's show can be seen at YouTube slash The Jimmy Dore Show. Please welcome Jimmy Dore, everybody. Hey, thanks for having me. It's great to be here. It is. It is great to see you, my friend. So I want to start with some simple stuff. Well, I got a little flood of ideas I want to talk to you about, but I guess I'll start with this, which is I saw you on a little clip from your show talking about how you looked into it, and lo and behold, you discovered that they had been lying to us about everything. And for me, as someone who practiced medicine for almost 40 years, I knew there was a problem at the beginning.

I couldn't understand what was happening. I've learned a lot about what they were up to since the last six months in particular. What did you find and how did you feel when you understood that people were... Well, I have felt it's not so much they're lying. They had a clear-cut policy of using fear, and it was clear that their belief was, you can't handle the truth. No, they were lying, and Fauci admitted to lying. He lied about

masks. He lied about herd immunity. He played dumb about natural immunity. He lied about funding gain-of-function research. He lied to the Congress about that twice, which should be, uh, that's a felony. He should be prosecuted, but of course the establishment has to prosecute him. So he won't be prosecuted. Right. Uh, so no, they did. So I knew that I had to take the vaccine. Like, uh, my doctors had told me because I had an underlying bone condition. And at the time, I didn't know that other doctors had a counter narrative to what was being said in the press, in the corporate press, and what the government was telling us and Fauci and everybody. I didn't

know there were other doctors. I didn't know about the Great Barrington Declaration. I didn't know that they're handling this pandemic unlike any other pandemic that they've ever handled and they they're not supposed to do it like this and so well uh i got the vaccine and i got sick and i i couldn't get better and as soon as i i i got entered into a study luckily there's dr yoganda follows me on twitter and when i tweeted about it that i'm not getting better it's five weeks after my second shot and I'm still sick. And he put me in a study. They were trying to figure out a protocol how to treat long COVID. And they had a theory that people like me who got injured by the vax would present as if we had long COVID.

And so sure enough, he did a test on me and he showed me the biological markers. And he said, you present exactly like somebody who had long COVID. So they put me on a protocol and one of those drugs was ivermectin. And I remember saying, well, wait a minute, this is that crazy horse paste. And he explained to me that the reason why they were doing such a big propaganda push to demonize ivermectin was because it was considered a wonder drug before COVID. They were looking at it to actually cure cancer. And if it could treat COVID, then they couldn't get their emergency use authorization. And so when I found that out, that they were lying about that at the top of

their lungs, and then they were also lying about hydroxychloroquine. And then I'm like, oh my God, I found out they're lying about masks, lying about herd immunity, natural immunity, transmission, contraction. There wasn't anything that they didn't lie about. They lied. The fact that, and my question was, why did it take a politician at the European Union questioning an executive from Pfizer about transmission of the vaccine

that we found out they never even tested for it? Wasn't that in the data? Aren't there teams of scientists at every college in this for it. Wasn't that in the data? Aren't there teams of scientists at every college in this country that are going over the vaccine trial data? Apparently not. And we had to wait for a politician to ask another non-scientist corporate executive. And that's how we found out they never even tested to see if the vaccine stopped transmission, which means that they always knew vaccine mandates were garbage. And the reason why they endorsed them and lied about them

was because they wanted to sell more vaccines. And that's that. Nice thing about guests like Jimmy is I can just throw a little chum his direction and then sit back and watch the show. And so you said you mean Dr. Yogendra and Dr. Patterson? You mean COVID long haulers? Is that where you were treated? Or was it somebody else? Yeah, COVID long haulers. No, that's it. So we've been working with them. Dr. Yogendra and I got together, Susan, what, two years ago? Three. Three years ago. So I've been a participant in his world and Dr. Patterson's world for quite some time. And

they were trying a lot of different things and they got a lot of good results. But I'm sure what they were looking at was the VEGF inflammatory mediator as a central inflammatory marker, which mine was way up too when I had long COVID. But long COVID and vaccine injury are very, very similar. Whether or not the mechanism is this persistent spike protein in non-classical monocytes that migrate into the cerebral spinal fluid, we don't know yet. But that's one of the theories about how this is happening. But I want to get back to, can I refine some of the things that you have uncovered about the lying or the disinformation that was being presented to us? Because I've come upon so many interesting pieces of this puzzle because I've been trying to figure it out for a year, two years now. Like, for instance, do you know where lockdowns came from?

It came from, oh, yeah. So there was China did them. And then there was somebody that fauci had in contact and china and he recommended they work like crazy so then that's where that came from even though it's based on no science so yeah so it was a little a little that was that was one piece and uh caleb if you could show up the um the book cover that shows the graph that that scientist used to convince dr fauci and his colleagues what to do this is on the cover of a book by michael sanger uh called snake oil i

think it's called and you but you look at the graph and you'll you'll there's no there there see that yellow line that's the graph they claim to achieve with like there it is escalating escalating and then flatline as soon as they do a lockdown. That did not happen. That is a lie. There's no epidemic of any sort on Earth of any type that responds like that. So that was a lie, A. B, they had all just been in that pandemic preparedness war game that we all heard about maybe three months before, right? You heard that there was this, I forget what they even called it, this plan what to do when there was a pandemic. It turns out for the last 15 years or so, there have been a group of

professionals developing and grooming themselves for readiness for a pandemic. They're a hammer looking for a nail. This group, and this group includes a lot of Chinese folks, a lot of sort of Fauci-esque folks, and this group had decided, they actually hadn't decided on lockdown, but they were ready to do their pandemic work. Now, when it went to Italy, this is according to Michael Sanger now,

the politicians in charge of Lombardy, Italy, which is where that big outbreak was, decided to lock down Lombardy. They wrote a book about their lockdown, espousing the virtues of lockdown, not because it improved COVID, nor was that their intent to affect COVID. Their intent was their affection for Chinese Communist Party politics, and they saw it as an opportunity to bring this authoritarian approach to Lombardy. They said it in writing. They said it explicitly, but no one knew it at the time, and as soon as Lombardy locked down, the rest of the world sort of followed suit with their pandemic preparedness, hammer nail folks doing the job for them. Isn't that crazy? That is crazy. People and that and the thing is, people don't know anything about the story of COVID or how it started and how the ideas came about or what or that there was even a counter narrative to the way to handle it.

Nobody or that we've had pandemics in the recent 50 years that we never handled this way. People don't know, that's the problem. People don't know anything about it. But I think I would love to ask, what is the bigger problem here? The bigger problem here is that I've always considered myself to be a lefty, right?

A good, lefty, lefty, left of the Democratic Party. And I'm friends with a lot of people who consider themselves to the left of the Democratic Party. And I'm friends with a lot of people who consider themselves to the left of the Democratic Party. But somehow when it came to COVID and COVID policy, you weren't allowed to have a different opinion. I can't believe it. People who still doubt if Elvis is dead and if we landed on the moon,

they have no questions about the COVID narrative. And they know. So I don't know. And when did lefties become so non-tolerant of other opinions? When did they start subscribing to black and white thinking? Because that's what this is. And then it's cult thinking, Dr. Drew. That's exactly what this is. It's cult thinking. I don't know much about cults, but my co-host grew up in one and he tells me all the time and he knows all the, and it's exactly what's happening. You're not allowed to have, look what happened to Jon Stewart when he went on Stephen Colbert 18, 19 months ago, and he said

that the lab leak theory made comedic sense, and he did it in a very brilliant comedic way, and Stephen Colbert was out of his mind, sweating bullets, trying to cut the knees out from underneath that comedy bit any way he can. He called him. He said, how long you've been working with Ron Johnson, which is the equivalent of calling him a crack. Right. That's what he did right to his face. He did it on CBS as he was doing a perfectly logical comedic bit that was, by the way, killing with the audience. Right. But Stephen Colbert knows where his bread is buttered. So he had to make sure. And guess what happened to Jon Stewart after that? He was on the outs of the cult. Why? Because he had an idea that wasn't sanctioned by the cult. And as soon as you look, they just did it to Leslie Stahl. She interviewed

Marjorie Taylor Greene. They just did it to Katie Tour yesterday because she said that the Trump indictment was garbage. And so they all admit as soon as you have an idea that goes against the cult, you are out of the cult. And Jon Stewart has been trying to get back in the cult ever since then. And he did it, I think. And why don't people understand that history is replete

with scapegoating stories like this? Replete. And the one lesson they could at least glean from history stories like this replete where, where, when, and they, and the, and the one lesson they could at least glean from history is when the guillotines come out, eventually they get turned on everybody. They're coming for you as well as the people you're guillotining, at least temper your enthusiasm with that. And also to look at grievance movements through history,

they end up hurting people by the millions. So I think it was, I forget who said this, but recently on my show, someone said, can you ever remember a time? Can you look back in time and history when the people doing the censoring were the good guys? No. Can you ever point to a problem that censorship ever fixed? Of course not. Censorship is used by authoritarians who know their ideas can't be tested or questioned. That's why they use censorship. again to smear them right now. I don't know what your Wikipedia page looks like, but I know what mine looks like because I've been telling the truth about COVID and I've been telling the truth about Syria and Russiagate. And these are all cold things. And what, how does your Wikipedia page look, by the way, if you were to tell the truth? Look at it. I don't really know, but I am sure it's not good because I, at the beginning of the pandemic, you mentioned that there has been previous pandemics and I have worked in those pandemics. I worked through the beginning of the pandemic, you mentioned that there's been previous pandemics. And I have worked in those pandemics.

I worked through the AIDS epidemic. And Dr. Fauci was my hero through that. He really was very helpful for me during that. I took care of hundreds, maybe a thousand AIDS patients. It was the darkest, darkest period ever. I worked through the H1N1 pandemic. I had H1N1. That killed 300,000 people.

I knew how serious that was. And I just kept saying, hey guys, I said the same thing over and over again. And yet it got bastardized and twisted, of course, with people editing and re... It's never what you say. It's always what people say you say that people get freaked out about. That's right. So, but what I actually said was, hey, panic doesn't make things better. The press is trying to panic you. I see it. It's disgusting. And we've been through this before. We just had a pandemic, killed 300,000 people. You didn't even know it happened. So we go from 300,000 dead to a million dead. It's horrible, but you don't have to panic.

We'll get through it. We have a great system in this country. And I would say every time, I'd say, listen to Dr. Fauci, listen to the CDC. They'll get us through this. They've gotten me through other pandemics. They've been my North star. Well, they always leave that part out. And they always have me saying, it's not going to be a big deal. Relax. It's okay. And, and by the way, they have me saying, um, at the very beginning, people were starting to lock themselves in their houses, the very beginning before it really even got here. And I, and I was saying, Hey guys, it's, it's, you're more likely to hit by an asteroid right now than get this illness. Well, that became me saying, you're never going to get this illness. It's always going to be less risky than getting hit by an asteroid. All this BS. Never what you

say, always what somebody says you said. You stepped outside the cult, Dr. Drew, and the retribution is swift and serious. And you won't be let in until you get your mind right. You got to get your mind right. So yeah, to me, the scariest thing is that, have you heard about what they call it? The mass formation psychosis? I think that's what they call it. And so I'm just starting to read about this.

It's fascinating about how the psychology of this free-floating anxiety then gets attached to this COVID thing. Because the thing is when people who used to be lefties and all about tolerance and people who question GMOs, people who wouldn't eat food because they had GMOs and won't allow you to question a novel vaccine, an untested experimental medical treatment that you're being forced to take. The same people who protested gmos they won't they won't have so they it's so that the

thing about it's the virulence and the violence that people use against you when you go outside the cult on covid whether it be lockdowns masks vaccines or school closings anything like that if you have a different idea, you are out of that. You're a bad person. And they feel that it's their it's their duty and their righteous duty to smear you, slime you and kick you out of the cult. I got blocked today over someone on covid who was supposed to be a super big lefty. It just happened. And all I did was ask a respectful question. And so there's no questions allowed you experienced it john stewart's experienced it eric clapton experienced it he got vaccine injured there's a guy i'm not into his music but my whole life i was all i heard was

eric clapton is this god i never heard one bad thing about him all of a sudden he gets vaccine injured and he's immediately labeled a white supremacist racist and that's that's the game look what they did to the truckers look what they did in the united states they can't tell the difference between a freedom fighter and a nazi they look at the freedom fighters in canada and they go nazis and they look at the nazis in ukraine and they go freedom fighters that's because we're the most propagandized country in the world and people in the united states don't think they're propagandized you know that's the thing about like, at least in China, when they turn on the news, they know it's propaganda. They know they're being censored. And back in the old Soviet Union, they knew the same thing. But the thing

about it in America, there's a handful of billionaires. They'd own all our media. They have all the same interests and tensions and the same narrative. And that's narrative control. That's all. Well, Noam Chomsky taught us about it back in the 90s about manufacturing consent. Rachel Maddow, Chris Hayes, Anderson Cooper, Sean hannity they're not there to give you the news they're there to manufacture consent for the establishment narrative and they do it every time why do they all agree on the big things they all agree on war don't they they all agree on covet it's really scary and the only guy who's been telling the truth in corporate media about covet or or our foreign policy is a guy named Tucker Carlson, who I'm told I'm supposed to hate. And the reason why he's able to tell the truth

about COVID and foreign policy is because they already took his advertisers away. And so now he has freedom. The only people he has left advertising is Mike, the pillow guy in catheter commercials. So he has freedom. And the reason why, and so that's why he's the guy doing way better reporting when it comes to COVID and when it comes to Ukraine, when it came to then anybody else on television. And shame on them for letting Tucker Carlson out left you and outdo you. So I hope I didn't get off track, but it's all the same thing. It's all about narrative control. And that's what Twitter is. You go on there and all those things, see what they're doing to people like Matt Taibbi.

And that's called narrative control. And they all work because all those things, see what they're doing to people like Matt Taibbi? And that's called narrative control. And they all work, because they know they all work for the same handful of people. And if they get fired from one, it's gonna be hard to get, you'll wanna get a bad reputation because it's a really small club.

And again, it's owned by a handful of billionaires. When Bill Clinton in 1996 passed the Telecommunications Act, we had 50 giant media companies in America. When he passed that in 1996, it brought it down to six companies. So now every magazine, every newspaper, every television, radio show, it's coming from the same six companies.

And that's why we have people living under every bridge. 80% of the workers live paycheck to paycheck. Half the country can't afford a $500 emergency. And we want to blame all our problems on Russia. Russia didn't do this to us. We did it to us. You know, they'll send $100 billion for a proxy war in Ukraine right in your face because corruption greases the wheels of government in that direction. And that's why we can't take $100 billion and send it to California, which would fix homelessness. You know, they say you can end homelessness for 20 to 40 billion dollars or for 100 billion dollars that we sent to Ukraine. We could have ended

homelessness, started it again, then said we were just kidding and then ended it again. But we won't even do that. This is the end of an empire, Dr. Drew. That's what people don't realize what's happening. We are turning into Brazil like that. We have 1,000 military bases around the world right now. We have 400 military bases surrounding China since the end of the Korean War. We are the world's terrorists. We just set the world on fire. We're doing this. And by the way, okay, I'll stop.

I'm getting off track. Let's get back to medicine. Well, you have, I've got like five different topics I want to comment on from that. One is, though, you may like what RFK is starting to say. Robert Kennedy Jr., he is – I've heard those sorts of words about foreign policy coming out of his mouth recently, and he announced a presidential bid yesterday. I want to set you straight on homelessness. Go ahead. Unfortunately?

You finish that thought, because I'm going to bring up three. Unfortunately, our other thing, RFK Jr., who I'm a big fan of, the guy's got courage like nobody else and a real spine of steel. I just wish he would. He's running inside the Democratic Party, which is unfortunate because he would be better off running as an independent. He's not going to make a difference in the Democratic Party. All people who voted for joe biden and hillary clinton hate his guts and so they're not and they probably won't even give him a debate so i i believe me if he runs and joe biden is right they're going to call off the debates and and so i don't know what else get him i wish he would he'd be better off running inside the republican party like trump because they don't have super delegates and they can't cheat them as easily as the democrats are going to and they're going to. And one more thing about the Democratic Party and the establishment, what's happening with Trump right now, even CNN said this is underwhelming

weak sauce. What they're trying to do is they know that people are so sick and tired of both corporate owned parties, pro-war, pro-Wall Street, anti-worker parties. People are so sick of them that they're willing to vote for a game show host like Donald Trump. And they know they can't beat him again, so they're going to try and make it so he can't run. And that's what all of this is about right now. And we're seeing it play out. The people are sick and tired of this corporate duopoly. And I wish Robert F. Kennedy Jr. would run as an independent. I bet he would win if he did that. But he's going to get squashed inside the Democratic Party. Interesting. And I want to set you straight on homelessness. The problem for homelessness is not the amount of money. We have billions and billions of dollars

available here in California. The problem is the laws prevent us from helping these people with addiction and mental illness. They do not allow us. People like me, who can treat these people and restore their lives, are literally prevented from doing our work because of the laws. So until you correct those laws, there will be limited impact on homelessness. That's a categorical reality. So that's good. I didn't know that. So thanks for telling me that. What kind of laws? The laws are such that people with brain diseases where they lose their judgment and they develop something called anosognosia, where they don't see what's happening to them, which is a feature of opiate addiction, stimulant addiction, bipolar disorder, and schizophrenia.

When they say, I don't want help, you are not allowed to go near them. On the other hand, if you have dementia, a cognitive disturbance with the exact same symptom complex, you're disorganized, you're hallucinatory, and somebody like me doesn't help the dementia patient, I'm guilty of patient abuse. I am mandated to help the dementia patient with those symptoms. They are taken and helped and they get help. The irony is dementias don't get better no matter what we do while all the other conditions can be restored to health,

particularly if you intervene early, but we are not allowed to help them. We are not allowed to take them anywhere. We are not allowed to help them. We are not allowed to take them anywhere. We're not allowed to even ask anything of them. Like, hey, don't shit in the street. We are not allowed to ask that. We must leave them to live their best life, period, end of story. And so as long as that is in place, it's going to be impossible to really help folks. And they will, because the brain disorder of these serious mental illnesses, A, are denial, I don't have a problem, and B, I'm doing what I want to do, I like it out here, and C, all I want to do is find fentanyl anyway. You cannot

compete with that unless you take people and motivate them into treatment. I am not talking about incarcerated people. There's a whole history here. There's a book called American Psychosis that chronicles how we dismantled what used to be state mental health systems that helped us help people like this. We would take them and help them. And this was completely dismantled by John F. Kennedy, who signed the Community Mental Health Act,

which was set up by the three original directors of the National Institute of Mental Health, who were three psychiatrists, grandiose narcissist, a-hole analyst, who had never set foot in a psychiatric chronic hospital, who believed that psychiatric illness was caused by institutionalization. They dismantled them all. All the patients were disgorged to the street, the nursing homes, and the prisons. And they certainly don't belong in the prisons. And we've realized that and pushed them back out onto the street. This is a statewide state.

And the Constitution does not allow for any provision that allows the federal government to service mental health. Franklin Pierce was the first president to attempt to go at it. It was unconstitutional. So it was left to the states. The Community Mental Health Act dismantled what the states could do, and that's where it started. So what percentage, do you know, I don't know if you know, but what percentage of people would you say fall, who are homeless, are homeless because of their mental illness? So I go out there all the time, and I talk to them, and I work with them and things,

and the one thing every single person on the street will tell you is we're all doing meth nearly all are doing fentanyl and 85 have really serious either substance or mental health problem it's so obvious now if you go out and you're a 22 year old with a clipboard and say do you have mental illness they're going to go i don't know what are you talking i'm fine i'm fine but somebody like me that knows how to do the psychiatric interviewing it all comes out very easily. And by the way, I've walked the streets with addicts, too, and the addicts can really spot what's going on even better than I can. So now, what about, I'm always told that, so there's a statistic that 43% of homeless people actually have employment at some point during the year and um those people like you we see stories about those people living in their cars and they still work and so and and then there's about all the children who are homeless right there is there is there which i go out on

the street you tell me if you see any children you You see any children out there? No, that's what I'm saying. They confound people with sort of home insecurity and couch surfing and relying on family and friends and that kind of thing with the chronically homeless on the street. The thing we are upset about here is the chronically homeless on the street. That is not the mother of three who lost her job. I dare you to find that woman on the street. That is not the mother of three who lost her job. I dare you to find that woman on the street. You will not find her anywhere there. Chronically homeless on the street, that's a particular population. And that is the one we are trying to help because they are dying in LA County alone, six a day die in LA County, mostly fentanyl overdoses and so the same people who wrote those laws right that try to give dignity to the mentally ill right so you can't incarcerate them or whatever

right but but they're also the same people i'm all about it yeah the same people are saying that you're six months old you get a covid vaccine, that you have to have lockdowns and that you have to have your two year old has to wear a mask and they shouldn't let kids go to school. So and they but they all come from the same impetus. They think they're doing the right thing. Right. They think they think they have the morality and righteousness on their side while they're doing that. And that's the most dangerous. That's right. That's right. That's right.

And if you don't have experience with these things, you don't even know what you're looking at, let alone how to treat it, how dangerous it is, and how much you're harming people with your so-called compassion. So there you go. That's one issue. Go ahead.

Well, what should, tell me what, like I want to do something about homelessness, and I don't know what to do. And so what what what could someone like me do? Let doctors do their job. Let doctors let doctors do their work. Let us treat them. Let us put them somewhere. We need the biggest way we could help is to develop more residential treatment programs, expand psychiatric residencies, encourage psychiatrists into the county system, create a step-down program of independent living and vocational rehabilitation.

It's quite easy. It's called the Trieste Plan. There's multiple plans to do these things in Los Angeles, and they never do it. I think because the development people, the developers want the money, the billions of dollars that are there to create permanent housing, which is not the issue. It's a piece of the issue. I will grant you, but it's not going to solve the problem until you create thorough. And it doesn't require inpatient care for the most part. It's residential, large residential programs.

It's funny when I, I It's funny, I've occasionally talked to people who've made it off the street. And I remember I was on a talk show once and this kid calls in, he goes, yeah, I was on meth, I was homeless, I was bipolar. And he goes, I know exactly what you do. We need a place where you can get a bed and some meals and there should be, well, doctors and nurses and social workers and vocational rehab i go yeah that's a psychiatric hospital it's exactly what we need we need a residential model psychiatric hospital precisely it instead we have outdoor asylums outdoor asylums that's what we have here so i want to one more thing and i got to go to a break here so what you'll ask your question i know you have

millions of questions for me but go ahead no keep going keep going i was going to switch the topic because this one i get in trouble with every going. I was going to switch the topic because this one I get in trouble with every time. I'm going to be actually giving a grand rounds to a group of physicians that are actually having an effect because they're going on the street and they're using, they're actually treating people. And this is the first physician, these are outdoor hospitals with no doctors or nurses, right? There's only social workers. So they don't have any experience with this. They don't really know how to treat this. And the physician has developed a little campaign, a little group that's expanding rapidly because the need is so massive to go out

and actually treat these people on the street. And once they clear, once you treat them, then they're much more motivated, guess what, to go into real treatment, get residential care and whatnot. But we don't have enough of that. We need a lot more of that kind of thing. And we need the ability to hold people, keep them. All the patient has to say now is, I know where McDonald's is, I can get three bucks at the freeway exit by holding up a sign, and I have a place to sleep. And you can't do anything for them. That's all they have to say. So I gotta go to a little break here. Before I do, one last thing I wanna say. You mentioned the propaganda and the Soviets.

I have an image of a 60 Minutes interview from when I was, in the 1970s when I was an adolescent. And this Soviet journalist was being hammered by somebody like Mike Wallace or somebody who's like, how can you do the government's bidding? How can you knowingly manipulate people? How can you knowingly put the propaganda out there? And this guy was a very smart dude,

and he was sort of deflecting the questions and answering as best he could. Finally, he looked at Mike Wallace. I'm not sure it was Mike Wallace, but let's say it was for the sake of argument. And he goes, hey, he goes, in our country, you need to understand that journalism is a political instrument. In yours, it's a commercial instrument.

It will have the same distortions. It will not look the same, but there will be as many distortions because your commercial interest is uber Alice. And you mentioned now the consolidation of media. And guess who one of their major sources of revenue is? Pharma. So there we go. We'll take a little break. Jimmy Dore, be right back after this.

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I would love to be able to, I've been one I've been, I've been waiting for the comedians to, to get their hands around the tribal BS and to make fun of what's been happening because it is some of it. It's been so odd that you it's it's opportunity for comedy. That's for sure. And Jon Stewart took advantage of it,

but got punished for it. Yeah. Well, you know, at every turn it's hilarious. Like Jon Stewart took advantage of it, but got punished for it. Yeah, well, you know, at every turn, it's hilarious. Like, for instance, they weren't going to release the vaccine trial data for 75 years. Remember that? They weren't going to. And I was like, oh, my God, did Pfizer kill Kennedy?

And then all the garbage about masks. Like, if you're seated, you can take your mask off and eat. But if you stand up, then the virus is coming at you. But if you're seated, it's going over your head. I mean, this is all crazy. It's every, and this is, these are the things people are still saying. Anyway, I can't, you'll never be able to convince people. It's like when I, in the 90s, used to have these arguments with people about like evolution, right?

These extreme right wingers, right? And they were, they were, they were against evolution and Darwin and all that. And there was nothing could ever get through. It's the same thing with people. I call them the COVIDians. And no matter how much data, no matter how much you throw at them, no matter what you tell them what the VAERS, nothing, nothing. It just, it's all you're wrong And vaccines and masks make you a good person.

Yeah, the talisman, you wear the talisman, you know, that signals that you're one of the chosen. And it was ZDogg that coined the term Covidians and Covidiots. And it was a very, very apt, very apt description of these different troops that everyone. And again, these things are really not all one way or the other. I mean, for instance, as it pertains to vaccine, I have a very nuanced sort of approach to the vaccine. I believe it helped get us out of that alpha and delta horrible thing we were in, that it was clearly beneficial. The risk reward was clearly in favor of using it for 65-year-olds and older. I'm just not clear for a 27-year-old male football player that COVID is going to have – Omicron is not going to hurt him at all, that I should be giving him a vaccine for something that's harmless that might have some problems associated with it.

Now the risk-reward reverses, and I'm just trying to get it right for patients. So, I mean, that's another thing that they lied about. They made us think that the virus was more deadly than it actually was. And now, even guys like Bill Gates, even that Bill Gates, after he cashed in his stock, he made 500 million dollars off the Pfizer jab. So after he cashed in that stock, now he starts saying things like this. Now he's saying well we didn't know at the time that the fatality rate it was really low fatality rate and that it affected mostly elderly people and people with underlying conditions like like the flu but a little

different that's what he's saying now and then he now says also that we got to fix our vaccines there they're not good at trans they don't block transmission they're not long lasting they're not good at trans, they don't block transmission, they're not long lasting, they're not, they don't cover a lot of things. And I'm like, oh my God. So we were lied to about that, right? And we should have, people who were younger, especially males under 40, should have never taken the mRNA vaccine. And the average age of death from the COVID virus

is 82 years old, over the age of natural death anyway and it's got a survivability rate of like 99.7 percent or something correct it's unbelievable and the hospitalization rate also very low and you had to be obese or diabetic or over 80 years old to be uh in serious doubt danger from this thing but they never told you that because this was a big money grab. It always was. And they got it done. They got their $100, $200 billion, and now nobody wants to take their boosters because they found out that if you take the booster, more likely to get sick from COVID than if you don't take the booster. They hid that data, by the way, at the FDA approval meeting. They hid that data. So they've been hiding the data left and right. They didn't want to release the data. And right now there's a thing happening called excess deaths. I don't know if you've covered it. But what excess deaths means is that there are people dying above the normal rate of when people normally die and they can't be attributed to COVID either. and son of a gun. It's the countries that had the highest uptake of vaccines also have the highest

uptake of excess deaths. And they're not having that problem in Africa and places like that. And so it's a slam dunk what's happening here. So I would disagree. You're a doctor. I'm not. But we don't know the effects of this vaccine yet. And we don't know if it was ever beneficial, if it ever outweighed. And we won't know for a few years. Yeah, Ed Dowd is someone we had on the show and he's mentioned this data specifically. And I've always said, look, I'm not prepared to condemn the vaccine just yet,

but why isn't it a, why that we have excess deaths similar to during the depths of the pandemic and we close the world down with those excess deaths similar to during the depths of the pandemic, and we closed the world down with those excess deaths, and we're literally ignoring the excess deaths now. Why is it an urgent issue to answer what's in those excess deaths? Who is it? Why?

And what caused this? Why isn't that an urgent matter? I don't understand. As opposed to that, it doesn't seem to be. Well, there is a campaign right now, just so you know. There is some medical literature campaigning to suggest that it's all related to COVID, that it's all post-COVID phenomenon. And it may be. I'm prepared to accept that.

But it's a little too just so that all – it seems to all be going one way. That never happens in the medical literature. Yeah. Again, who are you gonna believe i'm not gonna believe uh the government or big pharma or the corporate media and what i'm gonna go is the people who got censored during covert i'm gonna go to people like dr robert malone mccullough uh and and i'm gonna listen to those people uh turns out joe rogan right too. And why is it that CNN never has to pay a price for all the lies that they told about Joe Rogan? They discolored his skin to make him look sicker.

They said people that he was spreading lies and they always acted like he was just only bringing on fringe crazy doctors instead of what he was bringing on, people who were the tops in their fields, who were the most researched, the most published, the most people with the most patents, all that stuff. That's who he was bringing. Plus, he was bringing on other people like Dr. Hotez,

and he was bringing on people like Dr. Sanjay Gupta, and then he would humiliate them. The pothead comedian who announces guys fighting in cages would humiliate a guy like Dr. Sanjay Gupta. The first thing he got him to do was he had to school them about natural immunity because Joe Rogan says, well, I got COVID and now I don't. And then right away, Dr. Sanjay Gupta. The first thing he got him to do was he had to school him about natural immunity because Joe Rogan says, well, I got COVID and now I don't. And then right away, Dr. Sanjay Gupta says, well, you should get your vaccine now. And Joe Rogan says, no, I have natural immunity.

And Sanjay Gupta was like, tell me what's that? What is that? You know, that thing that our body's been doing since the beginning of time, all of a sudden the doctor from CNN never heard of it. And I wonder why, maybe because his paycheck relied on him not understanding what natural immunity was. And then Joe Rogan got him to admit that they were lying about ivermectin. Yeah. And it's interesting that the thing with Joe that bothered me the most, and I told Joe this, is that when he got sick with COVID, his doctor did some sort of off-label, sort of outside the standard of care. And by the way, this term standard of care is something I bristle at

because as I've reported many times on this podcast, I fought hand over fist against the standard of care of the 1990s and 2000s that my heroin addicts were given 90 Vicodin every time they went to the dentist. So, I mean, they killed people. That was the standard of care. And by the way, if you didn't treat their pain as vigorously as you treated their hypertension, you would not just be guilty of malpractice, you would go to jail for patient abuse. People don't understand that's what you would go to jail for patient abuse. Wow.

People don't understand. That's what they were doing to doctors at that time. The attorneys found a way around malpractice to patient abuse, and multiple doctors were convicted of that. They all froze in place. They sent all their patients to the pain management doctors. Those doctors were evangelists. They felt they were there to solve

pain forever for every American, and they did not know what they were doing when it came to the complexities of pain in various settings, such as in addiction. Anyway, what was I... I was talking about something. You said you're getting me going here. Help me, everybody. What were we talking about? Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan. So his doctor did some crazy thing, not crazy, some outside of the ordinary things. And the press went nuts about the ivermectin, which was one of the least extraordinary things he did. He gave him two NAD infusions. And I was like, Joe, I'm curious.

How'd the NAD infusions go? It's really interesting what your doctor did. That is unheard of. And thank God, he also gave him monoclonal antibodies, which was a very effective treatment at one point in the pandemic. No one was talking about it except for the Florida mental, except for the Florida health system. They actually had mobile units going out and treating people. Monoclonal antibodies turned my illness around in a day. And look, that was the interesting part of his care,

not the ivermectin. That was neither here nor there. But the press went nuts on the ivermectin. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, well, they did it right out in the open. And that was right around the time that the entire press was pushing that story that people were standing outside with gunshot wounds outside of emergency rooms in the summer in Oklahoma with winter coats on, and they couldn't get seen in the emergency room because there were people who were taking ivermectin who were clogging up the ICUs

because they were sick with poison from ivermectin. Ivermectin's safer than Tylenol. Yeah, and hydroxychloroquine is particularly, it's the only medication I'm aware of that I can think of that is categorically recommended to continue during pregnancy. So our lupus patients, I've prescribed it many hundreds of times, if they get pregnant, they are advised not to stop the hydroxychloroquine. It's the only medication I've ever heard. I was just doing a board review a couple of months ago and I was shocked to see that. I was like, wow, I would have stopped it because I didn't know it's that safe. I didn't think anything was that safe, but turns out it is.

But this is the thing. These people were leaders and journalists. Our public health leaders and our journalists were the perpetrators of this. What should we be doing in our relationship? What should we, what should these people do? What should we be doing? What should we ask of them? I have my own theory. You, what's yours? You know, you bring up a great, that's a great point that our leaders let us down, right? So I look to people. So again, I describe myself as a lefty and, you know, we're all about bodily autonomy, my body, my choice. That's what people said all their life. Right. And then all of a sudden they got, they found their, their fear point with COVID and all their values went out the window. And let's remember what Jon Stewart said one time,

famously, he said, you know, your values are there. So you have to follow them when times are hard. That's if you don't follow your values, when things are hard, they're not values, they're hobbies. That's why you have them. And so all those people threw that out the window, people who should know better, like Noam Chomsky, who was a superhero to me, really fell down on the job. And he told people that if you don't want to be vaccinated, you should be isolated from society. And then when asked, what do they do about getting food? He said, that's their problem. Now there's someone who should know better. How is it that a pothead comedian in his garage

knew better than Noam Chomsky? And the fact that he hasn't apologized for it and come out and made amends for that. So people like you and me could have more, could maybe take one less kick in the teeth. He won't do that. That just shows a lack of character. And it was a really, so a lot of lack of kick in the teeth. He won't do that. That just shows a lack of character. And it was a really,

so a lot of lack of character across the board. You know, Tim Robbins finally came out a couple of months ago and he apologized for being a COVID-idiot and he demonized people and all that stuff. And I did a video about it. It got almost a million views. One of my most popular videos ever.

People admire that. People want to hear it. People want to hear people apologize for being authoritarian maniacs during COVID. And it was beyond being authoritarian. It was that you weren't allowed to question anything. You know what they would say? They would say, I've seen comedians on stage in Los Angeles tell the crowd, please tell me you're not going to do your own research. You know, before COVID, doing your own research just meant you were reading. So that's how powerful big pharma propaganda and cult thinking is, is that they can wag your finger at you in the most anti-intellectual way while trying to pretend you're the dummy for trying to get informed. You wouldn't say that about any other thing. You wouldn't tell, hey, I'm going to go buy a car.

Don't look into it. Well, how will I know what kind of car to get? Ask the salesman. He's the expert. What are you, Henry Ford? I mean, this is the kind of thinking comedians who are supposed to be skeptics. This is that's how to me, that's the bigger crime is that we we start. They started to accuse people of thought crimes and then you get kicked out of the cult. That's the thing. I don't care what belief you have, but we're also supposed to be able to question authority it's like a value it's like it's like they said jimmy if you question authority you're a dumb person that's what they were doing and they did it all through covet and they're still doing it so i don't understand how we got to that point so i think it's come from that mass psych formation psychosis that i'm just

starting to get informed about now. Yeah, I want to talk more about that in a second, actually. Yeah, I think apologies should be swift and sure. I apologize for some stuff I got wrong early in the pandemic. I mean, there were a lot of things I got right, but nobody paid attention to that. But the stuff I got wrong, which was sort of the infectivity and some of the more serious aspects of the illness, the cytokine storm, something I'd never heard of, I apologized immediately for getting that stuff wrong. And by the way, I always think you should clean up your side of the street. You should do something. So I immediately applied to the physician volunteer services for New York and California. And I went through the whole process of interview in New York. I was actually excited about it. I wanted to work in the ICUs in New York. I said Florida,

New York and California. California never contacted me. They never did anything. But New York contacted me and I was getting ready to go and the thing just ended. They didn't need doctors all of a sudden. But I went through the whole review process and was all set to go to the ICUs in New York. But the other thing is, these people who are the the uh again as you said the compassionate discriminated recklessly against the unvaccinated and one of the biggest unvaccinated group were african-americans why not an apology at least for that they they made it so after so black people couldn't go in a restaurant are you kidding me who are you guys i mean it was insane nobody's gonna nobody's gonna take it take a responsibility for that.

It's disgusting. It's disgusting. And they don't even acknowledge that it happened. Well, the way they wrecked people's businesses, too. We all remember that one. Yeah. She was a restaurant owner, and they were doing a movie shoot right across the street from her, and they wouldn't allow her to sit outside. She had an outside cafe, and they had to shut her down right across the street from her and they wouldn't allow her to sit outside she had an outside cafe and they wouldn't they had to shut her down right across the street a movie a truck had set up about a hundred tables and they were all sitting there eating lunch outside and she's

like this is nuts and the reason why that movie that movie company was allowed to do that was because those movies are funded by banks who runs the country banks do the so the bank had a had a financial interest in this movie the politicians are owned by the banks they get to have their outside cafe that lady who owned that cafe that got shut down she wasn't a donor to the politicians so that's why she wasn't allowed to run her. I heard there were a couple other sort of connections there with higher state government in California that got them, you know, the movie business and their connections upstream. But back to what do we do with these leaders and journalists so-called? I really I feel like Abraham Lincoln when I call them journalists so-called during this pandemic. As far as the journalists, you should never freaking listen to them again.

Any of them. Do not listen to them. They are not trustworthy. They haven't apologized. They can't backtrack. They can't assess themselves. Never listen. To the leaders, vote them out.

Vote them out. That's it. Vote differently. And to the excesses of the Public Health Commission, public health authorities, we need constitutional or at least legal changes to limit in some fashion this excessive, excessive authority vested in these people in times of emergency. It doesn't make sense. It allows them fiat authority, and we have to have at least some sort of dampening something between that and the people. I don't see it ever happening.

I think people have lost faith. And right now there's a big problem with people not getting their regular vaccines for their kids and stuff like that. And people have lost faith in their public health systems. And rightly so, you know, when I go see my doctor, my doctors, they still have a mask mandate in Pasadena where I go to see my doctor. And I remember my doctor told me at the beginning of COVID, they were giving the protocol to do nothing. And she started to give steroids to, and she was told not to, she did it anyway. And then she was getting reprimanded for treating people with COVID. And she said, you know, your patients are dying and mine aren't

dying and you're going to reprimand me. And guess what? Steroids worked. Steroids worked. Steroids were good. Steroids worked a lot. Yeah. Six months later, they reversed that decision and they say, oh yeah, you know what? you should start using. So they took the ability for doctors to practice medicine. They took it away. And why? Because of big pharma. You know, the reason why there were pain clinics and everybody would, you know, opiate, heroin addicts would get prescribed Vicodin when they went to the dentist. That was because of big pharma. Big pharma were able to make doctors do that. It was a little more complicated. No, no, no, no no no no it's a little more complicated than that so so doctors doctors we have we get nothing from pharmaceutical agents we're not even allowed to take a pen from them we are not allowed to interact with them we are not allowed to take

a pen from them we're not allowed to do anything with the pharmaceutical here's what they did i told you that they had the the they started sanctioning doctors criminally for inadequate so-called treatment of pain. So now every doctor heard about this. It was mostly in Florida, North Carolina, and California. But why did they pass those laws? Hang on. Here's what happened.

There were no laws. There were no laws yet. So everybody I knew froze in place. It's really easy to get doctors to change direction. They just get scared. So they all got scared by these prosecutions that happened. So they then said, I can't treat pain. I have to send all my pain to the pain specialist.

Pain specialists were a group of evangelists. You got to understand, whenever you have doctors that are enthusiasts, they feel like they're saving the world from something. Watch out. Psychosurgery, the guys that did lobotomy, that was those guys. They thought they were saving the world and helping people with mental illness.

It was a standard of care and it was a evangelical movement. It's catastrophic. Medicine is full of evangelical movements that are catastrophic. The pain management, while they had a point, they actually were doing some good work,

they went too far with the evangelism. The drug companies found the most evangelical physicians and amplified their message and got them in touch with all the regulatory agents, the Joint Commission on Hospital Accreditation, the VA, the Department of Mental Health, the professional societies. And they adopted a policy. They pushed through policies. Nobody

made any money off this. The policy is pain is the fifth vital sign. Pain is what the patient says it is. And pain control is what the patient says it is, and pain control is what the patient says it is. That was the standard of care. It was not worth any money to anybody at that point, and now it was on. And the drug companies were just duplicitous in the whole thing. Once it was on, then they started paying people who were the evangelists to go out and speak about the standard of care that they had now established. The drug companies never caused these things. My profession always causes them. The drug company breathes gale force winds into the sails of the evangelist, and that's how things go off the rails. I mean, I saw that Crime of the Century documentary.

So that's what I was referring to, right? You saw that about the Sacklers and... Yeah, yeah. And they were duplicitous, but it was already in my profession well underway with this, well underway. All those documentaries, they miss what was... I lived through it. I know exactly what happened. And they kind of miss what was happening in the practice of medicine.

None of them took, none of them understand it. They couldn't take it into account. So, you know, the Dallas Buyers Club, you remember that movie? Did you see it? I worked with Dallas Buyers Clubs in the early eighties and they were wonderful until they were a problem. So once we started having effective treatments for AIDS, the Dallas Buyers Club, now they switched from something giving people some hope and support when we had nothing to offer to becoming a group that said, stay away

from those doctors. Their medicines cause AIDS, and that was now killing AIDS patients hand over fist. Hand over fist. So those groups that were so very, again, compassionate and useful and helped give people some hope became a serious problem for about two or three years when we actually did have something to do for patients with HIV and AIDS. Do you remember when LGBTQ protesters, AIDS protesters stormed the NIH, and they hated Fauci? You remember that? There was all kinds of weird stuff going on at the time. I was there when we opened the boxes of AZT, because that morning, we went from having literally nothing to offer these patients to having something. It was not a good something, but it was something. And if we could expand their life three more months, maybe some more somethings would come along.

And they did. It was exactly right. But that was, again, it was Spin Magazine. Remember Spin Magazine and Bob Guccione? Yes. magazine remember spin magazine and bob guccioni yes he he spun he spun a myth that it was aids was caused by the gallo institute and that fauci fauci was killing patients with azt that was his he should be criminally prosecuted for how horrible that was it was a disaster so uh okay all right

i rfk has a different view of this i maybe you're going to want to push that point of view. I was there. I was there. I was there fighting the fight on the ground. Go ahead. treatments, just like they suppressed early treatments now. And the gay community revolted against him. And then it turns out his big AZT drug was just like Rendemisphere they're pushing. It didn't work. And it actually turned out, I don't know if it turned out to be harmful. That's what I thought. And so he did the same thing here. So that's why they had to, in fact, they never talked about monoclonals. They never even talked about them. Well, we didn't have them then. That's the thing. We didn't really have that yet.

That technology really, we were a lot of hope for monoclonals, but we didn't have them. Oh, now I know. Why did they talk about monoclonals? I totally agree with you. Yeah. No, listen. I took monoclonal antibodies, and I did it every day. I did it in an Instagram Live, tried to help. People should know about this.

And what's the first reaction I got was, oh, you're special and rich. That's why you get it. No, it was free. The government paid for it. They will come to your house and infuse you and keep you out of the hospital. It's ridiculous. And by the way, the craziest thing anybody ever said to me was, were you scared? I thought, even at my age, I had a 1% fatality rate.

Why would I be afraid of this illness? When a doctor tells you you have a 99% probability of survival, he or she is telling you, just don't worry about it. You're fine. That 1% fatality rate, scared, impossible. But back to Fauci, I'll tell you what he did do back then as I reflect back, because again, he was my hero back then. And I keep hoping it will revert to some sort of mean that i've known from him my whole career um he he told us to use fear he encouraged us to use he kept saying yeah he encouraged that that and i did it and i did it i'm guilty of it remember what we drove everybody wild with anybody could have aids everybody you have sex with you're having sex with everybody they've ever had and we freaked out an entire generation of young people and then congratulated

ourselves for having done so. So mea culpa. I apologize for being a part of that. That was wrong, but we thought we were doing right. And I was responding to my leader at the time, who I thought a lot of. But here we are again with him using the same technique. But what's interesting, that was a different media era, right? That technique may have been appropriate where you have three networks or four and you just have to go out and repeat the same thing over and over again. This is not that world anymore. You notice they were doing that this time, repeating the same what you call lies over, over messaging same same same that doesn't apply anymore that is not something that works uh in today's world

well i mean the big lie was that the vaccine stopped transmission and if the vaccine doesn't stop transmission then in most people's books that's not a vaccine and then you can't mandate someone take that because you're actually not because you're not doing good for the community. You're doing good for big pharma and that's that. And I've always said, as soon as I had Dr. Robert Malone on my show in 2021, he told me that the worst thing you could do is to try to vaccinate your way out of a pandemic like this because then it creates a viral immune escape and that it actually creates mutations that are more deadly if too many people get vaccinated.

They were told people, Dr. Drew, they told people the exact opposite. They told me I had friends get mad at me because they thought I was telling people the wrong thing and that I was going to make sure that the vaccine, that the virus mutated and became more deadly. And I was responsible for killing people. This is what people know me all my life told me, said it to me in my face, said it to me on social media and continue to say it because they were lied to that. No, you should not try to vaccinate your way out of this. People still believe that if everybody would have got vaccinated right away, we could have got rid of this. It was never the case. You can't vaccinate the flu way. You can't vaccinate it. You can't vaccinate. And so people still don't know that. And we still have that stupid regulation. You

know, we had a tennis player just a couple of weeks ago, wasn't allowed entry into the United States because he wasn't vaccinated. This is the most anti-science thing in the world. Again, as we wag our finger at what we consider Trumpers for being anti-science. It's the craziest thing I've ever seen. And no one will ever have to pay a price for it. I think that is a rather profound statement. I think you are so right in all that. And it troubles me greatly that this could happen again.

Canada still can't get in. I want to read something one of our Rumble ranters said. Dr. Drew has a huge blind spot on Fauci and AIDS. Bizarre that he can be so clear viewed on COVID, but just as blind as COVIDiots on AIDS. And so there's people that agree with you that I have a blind spot, Jimmy. So there you go. We all have blind spots. And I may. And I may have one.

I'm prepared to, I'm always trying to look at my blind spots and understand where I got things wrong and understand the other side of the table. That's what's so challenging in all this, trying to understand what has happened to us here. Can you believe that not one corporate journalist has asked any of these questions that week? Not one corporate journalist who got a shot at Fauci would say, hey, how come you didn't tell people about monoclonals? Someone actually did ask him that once, and he's like like i don't know why people don't know about it he says i don't know why it's not talked about more because you don't want it talked about more because you want people to not think that there's a treatment well when trump got uh covid and chris christie got covered right and i'm like well it's supposed to really affect the elderly and the obese there you go they were a couple of days later they're both great

and they never told us what they got and then we found out months later that they were given monoclonals that they didn't tell anybody. Either did Chris Christie tell people, neither did Trump. They just like, I'm better. I'm all good. And that's because big pharma, which is controlling the narrative around COVID, did not want people to know that there was an early treatment for it. And by the way, monoclonals were 80% effective.

That counts as an early treatment. How could they keep their emergency use authorization if there was a treatment like monoclonals that's supposed to negate their emergency use authorization nobody ever asked that question on corporate media either because corporate media funds the news up to 75 percent that's why you're never going to get the truth from corporate news. Yeah, it seemed, this was the thing that I was, again, bewildered about from the beginning. Shouldn't the public health mandate be to help people manage this illness and prevent this illness? Nasal lavage, monoclonal antibodies, vitamin D, all these things. Vitamin D. Lose some weight, exercise.

Yeah, there were all these things that you can do to lose some weight, exercise. There were all these things that could be done, and the public health officials were not in any way participating in helping people manage the illness should they get it, especially monoclonal. It was just very weird, very weird. Vitamin D, the simple thing like this. The reason why COVID attacked the African-American community at first so hard is because they're deficient in vitamin D3 because you make vitamin D3 with your skin from the sun. And so they knew at the beginning that vitamin D3,

a low level of that, would make COVID worse. They never mentioned it. They never mentioned it. We are run by psychopathic criminals. That's what Dr. Fauci is. And that is not hyperbole. That guy is a psychopath, a murdering liar. I don't believe that. I don't believe that Fauci is, and that is not hyperbole. That guy is a psychopath, a murdering liar. I don't believe that. I don't believe that, but you're not alone in that belief. I do not believe that. He's been my man for many, many years. I hope he reverts back to the mean, but back to you. I don't blame him. People are angry, Drew. Yeah, I know. Listen, the tension between the Hippocratic Oath and the medical board insurance company real. Is the tension between the Hippocratic Oath and the medical board's insurance company. Medical boards are not associated with the insurance company, but there is a major problem between physicians who are charged with their job of protecting the patient, doing no harm, and the insurance companies who are actually in control of the cases. People don't understand that. I want to comment quickly about Malone's theory about accelerated evolution.

It was also Brett Weinstein's concern as well. I had that concern at the beginning, too. It turned out not really to happen, and thank God it didn't. That's all. So I'm just going to say that thank God was not a thing. But it could have been. It would have fit evolutionary biology, So we did worry about that. So Jimmy, we're in the upside down.

We've just been talking about COVID and vaccines, but we can talk about almost any topic and I feel like we are in the upside down. What do we do? What is going on? I always thought I was sort of a left-leaning libertarian. Now I don't know what I am. I guess I'm independent is all I can call myself,

but I am troubled by the excesses on both sides. They all sort of drive towards the upside down where things that are pragmatically useful and beneficial to human beings beg no influence here in this world. How do we get back? Or do you have any thoughts about getting back to a world where people can thrive and build and and be economically engaged and just the opposite of what we're doing now where everyone is tribal and um upside down in their understanding of reality well look what's happening in france right now right so in france they tried to raise their rates or they raised the retirement age from 62 to 64 and millions of people got in the street for weeks are they're not stopping and uh that's what we need here in the united states

uh that that happens in france it doesn't happen here and and that's the only thing so the problem is people think the democratic party and the republican party are actually opposition parties they agree on all the big things they all agreed agreed on they agree on war. They agree on a military industrial complex, imperialism, hegemony. They agree on that. They agree on crushing a railroad strike. All right. They agree on. So they're both pro-war parties. They're both anti-worker. They're both in the pocket of big health, big pharma, and of Silicon Valley. And so what people need to realize is the Democratic Party is not a left-wing party. They are a pro-war, pro-Wall Street Party.

And so we need an organization to go against them. And so when you have people like Bernie Sanders or the squad AOC and those people, the Justice Democrats, inside Congress as a Democrat, that's actually a negative because we're not going to have real change. And because that makes people think that there's someone fighting for them inside the government. There isn't. Bernie Sanders tucked his tail and doesn't want to be considered Ralph Nader. And so he goes along with every horrible thing, including being a war pig, which he is. He's a war pig of the highest honor and he smears peace activists. That's what Bernie Sanders has turned into. He's a mouthpiece now for the establishment and it's disgusting. And so what we need to,

there's not going to be change in this country until people lose faith in the system and get out in the streets. You know, Christian Smalls organized the first Amazon union on Staten Island. And how did he do that? Did he, did he, he did it with Trump voters because that's who live on Staten Island and that's who worked there. He organized along class lines. People have to realize that we have to organize along class lines and these aren't left-right problems anymore.

Again, when 80% of the country lives paycheck to paycheck, these are not left-right issues. When we're spending a trillion dollars on empire and not taking care of our own country, these are not left- left right issues and what the biggest thing they don't want us to realize dr drew is that we have more in common they want us to blame our enemy for they did a controlled demolition of our economy during covid and then they want us to blame our neighbors for the economic pain we felt that only helped a handful of millionaires and i'm not going to blame my neighbor because he wouldn't take a vaccine

that never worked the way they said it did in the first place. I'm gonna love my neighbor and I'm gonna realize that I am my neighbor and that we have more in common that separates us and we share a common enemy. And that is what scares the hell out of them the most. When the left and right come together

and realize that we have more in common that divides us, that's what's gonna really scare. That's the only thing that scares the establishment, by the way. And they've got us pretty divided. Every way the corporate media, they report every story in a way that separates the country, whether it be COVID lockdowns or vaccines,

whether it be Black Lives Matter or Kyle Rittenhouse, whether it be the Ukraine war or the Syrian war, everything they report is a way to separate you and blame our neighbor. Well, we is a way to separate you and blame our neighbor. Well, we have a lot more in common. And that's my message for people. Your neighbor is not your enemy. The enemy is the people who want to take away your free speech and the people who want more war and want to break more unions and end more strikes. Those are the people, the people who want to control doctors like they just passed a law in California,

making sure that doctors couldn't give alternative treatments against big pharma's recommendation. We got to come together against the establishment and people in looking to government and electoral politics to change things. It's not going to happen. It's interesting. I have not heard the, well, there you go. You've not heard the Christian virtue of love thy neighbor as thyself in many, many decades. I've not heard that said in a long time, which is kind of interesting that you're framing this as neighborliness. I think that is a great way to do it, number one. Number two, would it not be accurate to say that they are inflating or inflaming racial tensions as a way of obfuscating class tensions so they can maintain their elite status? Dr. Drew, that is a bullseye. A hundred percent. You are correct. So what happened,

what people don't realize is that during the Democratic Party turned its back on the working class during the era of Bill Clinton. And people think that he was the lesser of two evil turns out he wasn't the lesser of two evil because he was able to do things that a republican wasn't meaning he was able to pass nafta george bush the first tried to pass nafta he couldn't because the blue dog democrats wouldn't go along with it here comes bill clinton he gives cover to the blue dog democrats they cut the leads the legs out from underneath the workers and unions for a generation. So that's what people need to realize, right? We got to come together and we have more in common and the Democratic Party turned their back on workers. So now that's why Trump is able to get blue collar workers to

vote for a billionaire who never did anything for a worker in his life because they're desperate. I interviewed a cook, a Waffle House cook during the Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump election, a Waffle House cook in Virginia. And he said, Jimmy, we all know that Donald Trump is a loud mouthed Yankee. He should have had his ass kicked a long time ago, but he's the only one promising us anything. And so anybody who goes up and promises people help, you promise people health care. We're the last country in the world who still won't give people health care. People still go bankrupt. I went bankrupt because I got sick in 2006 and I had platinum health care insurance coverage I was supposed to. So the Democratic Party turned their back on workers. No political party represents

workers, which is why the Democrats and the establishment want to talk all about genders and bathrooms and race and white supremacy. Not that any of those things aren't problems, but they're overemphasizing those things because they don't wanna talk about the class struggle, which is what we already lost. They won, okay? How many more billionaires got made during COVID

while everybody got flattened? So that's what people don't realize. The reason why we're talking about all these issues that seem like culture wars is because the establishment wants to distract us from the economic war that is being waged and won by the establishment every day. maintaining their status as elite above all other consideration by fanning whatever they need to do to fan the tribal flames, they will do it provided that it maintains their elite status. I hope more people wake up to that. I think that's, at least they'll stop listening to some of these people that have so poorly served us. What I try to tell people is that, you know, what would help black and brown people and transgender people more than anything? Medicare for all.

You want to help them? Give them a living wage. Give them a college education that doesn't bury them under mountains of debt. You want to help those people? That's how you help those people. You want to dismantle the prison industrial complex? That's how you help black and brown people. And that's how you get behind them, not by playing culture wars and calling people white

supremacists and dividing the country even further. Right. And they're just taking the status quo and sort of expanding the status quo, which is not good. The status quo is not good. It's the status quo that needs to be dismantled, not the institutions. Jamie, let's leave it at that, I'd say. Very fun talking to you. I hope to see you again soon. We ran into each other in a restaurant the other day. I hope it's not limited to just

that. By the way, I practice medicine in Pasadena. I think I know who the doctor is you're seeing and who gave you the steroids, thankfully, or who are giving their patients the steroids, thankfully. But we still have to wear masks. But I was going to tell you, we still have to wear masks in all the offices here in this area. So we still do it. Surgical masks, by the way, which have been shown to do absolutely nothing. This is called Ask Dr. Drew. And we did have a $10 Rumble Rent Super Chat question.

Okay. Okay. Go ahead. Hold on one second. I believe I answered it about the insurance companies. Oh, you Rent Super Chat question. Okay. Okay. Go ahead. Hold on a second. I believe I answered it about the insurance companies. Oh, you got it? Yeah. Oh, okay.

I answered it. And I said the insurance companies are in control. It's not the board, so to speak, though there is a whole thing of control by the boards and our professional societies. But the insurance companies yield way too much influence over how doctors practice, way too much. over how doctors practice way too much and it's been that way for 30 years people don't understand how bad that is

there's a whole I've explained it here before there's a game they play and there's no getting around it given the current state of how insurance works so I really quick before we end just how refreshing and relieving it is to hear Jimmy come across with such nuanced views that are not going one way or the other. He's just said 20 different things here that are on no specific political party. I love it. It's amazing. Thank you for coming on the show. As I said, yeah, I'm totally with you. That's why I was interested in talking to Jimmy. As Patton Oswalt, I think, said, is you piss everybody off. And that's good.

That's where you should be because nobody's got it right right now. It's all over the place. That's why I was sort of intrigued by RFK. I'm not sure I'm on board with his stuff, but some of the things he's saying, it's like, well, that's a very different way to approach all this, and we kind of need a new approach. And I hope at least you pull the curtain back for people a bit. Maybe they don't go all the way where you're at, but if you can pull the curtain back and make people think, I think that's a great service. Well, I appreciate you saying that.

It's really been a pleasure to be on your show, and thanks for getting the word out about COVID. All right, my friend and uh you know where to find jimmy and get the book and the new special again where's the new youtube special you know it's it's at my website jimmydoor.com it's called covid lies are funny it's ten dollars perfect go watch it everybody jimmy i'll see you soon everyone else i, I believe I will see you. You betcha. I think it is, is RFK our next guest, Susan? Is that what's happening?

Yeah, on Monday. On Monday at an earlier time or usual time? Same time, usual time. Utah, with Kelly Victory.

She's going to help me with Robert Kennedy because I don't, on Easter Monday. I'm not super comfortable with all his stuff, but she is and they're friends

and I will let them go out of the way. I'm pretty sure. Oh yeah, there it is, three o' friends, and now we'll let them go out of the way. I'm pretty sure. Oh, yeah, there it is. 3 o'clock. Thomas Binder coming in. Interesting guy. He's a Swiss doctor that was put in a psychiatric hospital for his COVID beliefs.

And Naomi Wolf, 18th, and Asim Malhotra with Dr. Kelly Victor on April 25th. See you on Monday. That's a different day because we're traveling the latter half of the week. Monday, 3 o'clock with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. See you then. Ta-ta. Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Caleb Nation and Susan Pinsky. As a reminder, the discussions here are not a substitute for medical care, diagnosis, or treatment.

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