Ask Dr. Drew - Jimmy Dore: “We’re The World’s Terrorists” & The CIA Provoked Russia’s War In Ukraine – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 324

Episode Date: February 19, 2024

“We are ruled by psychopaths,” writes Jimmy Dore, on recent revelations from Dr. Peter McCullough about the lipid nanoparticles of mRNA vaccines. “We’ve been poisoned & lied to on a scale most people’s brains cannot comprehend.” The author, comedian, and political commentator joins Dr. Drew to discuss Tucker Carlson’s recent interview with Vladimir Putin, the Nordstream Pipeline, and the CIA’s history of secret interference with foreign elections. Jimmy Dore is the star of several Comedy Central specials, author of the bestseller “Your Country Is Just Not That Into You”, a writer / performer for the Off-Broadway hit “The Marijuana-Logues”, the host of a weekly radio show in Los Angeles, and on-air host for The Young Turks. “Citizen Jimmy” is the award-winning one-hour Comedy Central Special that was chosen Best Of 2008 by iTunes, and was named one the the top 5 comedy DVDs of the year by Punchline Magazine. Jimmy’s everyman style and razor-sharp material draws people in and has made him one of fastest rising stars in comedy today. Watch his show at https://www.youtube.com/@thejimmydoreshow and follow him at https://twitter.com/jimmy_dore 「 SPONSORED BY 」 Find out more about the companies that make this show possible and get special discounts on amazing products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors • COZY EARTH - Susan and Drew love Cozy Earth's sheets & clothing made with super-soft viscose from bamboo! Use code DREW for a huge discount at https://drdrew.com/cozy • PROVIA - Dreading premature hair thinning or hair loss? Provia uses a safe, natural ingredient (Procapil) to effectively target the three main causes of premature hair thinning and hair loss. Susan loves it! Get an extra discount at https://proviahair.com/drew • GENUCEL - Using a proprietary base formulated by a pharmacist, Genucel has created skincare that can dramatically improve the appearance of facial redness and under-eye puffiness. Get an extra discount with promo code DREW at https://genucel.com/drew • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your personal physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. 「 ABOUT DR. DREW 」 Dr. Drew is a board-certified physician with over 35 years of national radio, NYT bestselling books, and countless TV shows bearing his name. He's known for Celebrity Rehab (VH1), Teen Mom OG (MTV), The Masked Singer (FOX), multiple hit podcasts, and the iconic Loveline radio show. Dr. Drew Pinsky received his undergraduate degree from Amherst College and his M.D. from the University of Southern California, School of Medicine. Read more at https://drdrew.com/about Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

and we are very privileged today to be joined by jimmy door of course in the jimmy door show you can follow him on twitter jimmy j-i-m-m-y underscore door d-o-r-e and the jimmy door show on rumble uh his book um of course he had many comedy central specials but his book is your country is just not that into you uh i had the privilege of doing the Jimmy Doris show yesterday, and he says some provocative things, including that we are ruled by psychopaths. And that was in response to some of the excesses of the mRNA vaccine

distribution. A reminder that tomorrow we have Alex Berenson, and on Thursday we have Zuby coming in, Normal Times. Rob Henderson, Tessie Laura, Brett Weinstein coming in on March 5th, Dave Rubin March 6th, a lot of stuff coming up, even Adam Carolla coming in a little bit later. So let's get some business down here. Please pay attention and support the people that support us, and we'll

bring in Jimmy Dore. Our laws as it pertained to substances are draconian and bizarre. A psychopath started this. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction, fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous. I'm a doctor for f**k's sake. Where the hell do you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals. Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Loveline all the time. Educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat. If you have trouble, you can't stop and you want to help stop it, I can help.

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You can find him anywhere. I mean, let's face it. The book, of course, Your Country Is Not Just That, into you. And recently he wrote some revelations on the lipid nanoparticles for the mRNA vaccines,

stating, quote, we've been poisoned and lied to on a scale most people's brains cannot comprehend. I want to talk to him about that. And I also want to talk to him about his evolution in comedy. And as a purveyor of wisdom and truth, please welcome Jimmy Dore. Great to be here. Thanks for having me. It's really exciting. And it's nice to meet another fellow suit jacket wearer. We are in that camp together now. Thank you. I appreciate that. Your imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. I appreciate it. So, so if you don't mind, I want to start out by

talking about you, your life, your career for people that may not have heard this story. And sort of, I always ask comedians when the comedy hit, when, when did it, usually most comedians have like a moment where they went, oh, I could make a living doing this or, oh the comedy hit, when did it, usually most comedians have like a moment where they went, oh, I can make a living doing this, or they have some experience in front of an audience where they get the first real serious laugh and they get kind of addicted to it, but they can always, at least most comedians, kind of point at a moment. Is that you? Yes. For me, it was when I was in college and they got cable into our dorm room. This is back in the 80s. And so they had all these new standup comedy shows that appeared out of nowhere, even A&E's Evening at the Improv, Stand Up Spotlight, just all kinds. There

was like at least a dozen that were on cable tv yeah and um i would often when i would watch sitcoms i would rewrite the punch lines and i was like oh that should be this way they inverted the punch line there if they put that word there it'd be funnier and i didn't really even realize what i was doing and then when i saw i would go to comedy clubs and those guys were funny man like i always saw a really funny p i would go to zany's in chicago and i was like boy i could be i could be funny for five minutes at a party but those guys are funny for a half hour and a clip i can't do that but then television like i said they all those shows started to pop up on cable television with stand-ups and i was like well i'm funnier than that guy and he's on television like i might not be able to do it at Zany's, but I could do it on TV.

That's what I thought. That's interesting. It was kind of good comedy got me interested in comedy and bad comedy gave me the courage to do it. And so that's what got me started. It's fantastic. What were you studying in college? So I really wasn't studying much. I wasn't a good student. And I went to Illinois State.

And then I dropped out after three years. I was studying communications. I was mostly into politics. I ran for the academic senate. I got elected. And I was really interested in politics for some reason. And so I dropped out and then i was gonna i started driving a forklift where i was like hey you know i'm sick and tired of being broke all the time so i dropped out of college i got a job driving a forklift and after the first day i got out the college catalog i was like i better go back to college and uh i went to i went to columbia college in chicago because they took all my credits. So whichever college took all my credits, I was going to go. And so that's where I went. But that was kind of an arts college. So I

learned that I had a talent for copywriting. I was going to go into advertising, copywriting because of that school. And back then, it was just like kind of an obscure arts, arty kind of school. It was taught by working professionals people inside the business would come teach you things and now it's like forty thousand dollars a year and it's a big deal in chicago but anyway back then it was just regular so i did that and i graduated and then i i started doing open mics as soon as i graduated from college and back then that was 1989 uh they started paying you to do comedy right away. It was the comedy boom, right? So if you could stand on stage for 15 minutes, you could get paid. And I did.

And so I was like, I'm never getting a job. I could do this. I couldn't believe it. And I remember the first time I got a paid gig out on the road. I went to Milwaukee at the Comedy Cafe. And I worked Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and I had so much fun, I forgot to get paid. And that never happened at my regular job, which was doing masonry. And so I was like, boy, this has got to be it.

I couldn't think of a better job in my life than to do that. So that's what got me started, and that was in 1989. And then I moved to Los Angeles in 1995, and I started getting on TV right away. So that's what got me started. And that was in 1989. And then I moved to Los Angeles in 1995. And I started getting on TV right away. I got on NBC like five or six times in the first couple of years, which was a big deal. And then I got my own Comedy Central special in 2003. I got an hour special in 2008.

I got a radio show out here on KPFK I had for about 12 years. And the rest is history. I wrote that book. I got another special on Hulu. And now my current special is called COVID Lies Are Funny, which is available at JimmyDore.com. Perfect. And then in terms of how you evolved from, I'm guessing your working class experience had something to do with your political evolution from a sort of Bernie liberal to, I'm not sure how to characterize you now, frankly. Talk to us, there's a big story there too. Talk to us about that evolution.

Well, I always considered myself a Democrat, right? Because Democrats used to be the party of the working class. And then Bill Clinton came along, and he was right after Ronald Reagan. And so he decided, well, if you can't beat him, join him. So he became just like the Republicans. So that's why we have two right-wing parties now in America, and nobody represents the working class, which is why Donald Trump happened. People like to say Jill Stein made it happen, because, you know, Jill Stein's the kingmaker. And people like to say, I saw today on Twitter. So today somebody said it was Jon Stewart. Jon Stewart, I guess, criticized Joe Biden, I guess, on his first night back. And people are like, this is what God gave us Trump.

I'm like, no, what gave us Trump is that both political parties abandoned the working class. And that's what they both got in bed with corporations, Wall Street, the military industrial complex, big oil and big pharma. And nobody represents workers anymore. And that's why people are desperate. And they were willing to take a chance on Donald Trump, which, you know, I interviewed a Waffle House cook from Virginia in 2016 who voted for Donald Trump. And I was like, come on, Donald, you think Donald Trump cares about workers? And he said to me, he goes, Jimmy, we know Donald Trump's a loud mouth Yankee who should have had his ass kicked a long time ago. But he is actually promising us something where Hillary Clinton was promising to take our jobs away because she wanted

to close down all the coal mines. And he's like, so at least he promised us to do something so we voted for that and so you can't go against that and um that's and so then of course the i was a bernie sanders uh fan back then because i'm for medic medicare for all i was for a minimum wage i was for free college i still am for all those all that stuff right um and but they all shifted the democrats all shifted to the right, including Bernie Sanders. They cheated him. Donna Brazile admitted that they cheated him in her book. Elizabeth Warren

admitted it on CNN. They, of course, cheated him. And what Bernie Sanders didn't make them pay a price for that, because my personal theory is they threatened to prosecute his wife for her financial shenanigans that she committed when she was working at that college that's my theory i don't have anything to back it up so you can dismiss it um so but i've never seen anybody roll over like that before he used

to start every speech in 2016 sounds like you're ready for a revolution and then he went from that to backing the war machine becoming a war pig pro-ukraine war which is nothing but a money funneling operation up. That's a trough for transfer of wealth to the international security state, the military industrial complex that was provoked by NATO. The world's terrorists are the United States. And people don't realize that. There's no other country that has a thousand military bases around the world. We do. And the joke we make at our show is we show the map and we show all the military bases that are surrounding Iran or surrounding...

They have 50 military bases surrounding China since the Korean War. And I say, how dare they put their country so close to all our military bases? Right now, we keep getting upset with what Joe Biden is doing, retaliatory strikes, because people are attacking our soldiers in the Middle East. Why are our soldiers... They're attacking our soldiers in their countries. We're occupying Syria, a third of Syria right now. As we point our finger and say,

Putin is a thug for invading Ukraine. We are the country next to it, Syria. We've been occupying it since, I don't know, 2020, at least a third of it. Which third do you think that is? It's the third that has the oil. And when they asked Donald Trump, why is he leaving troops in Syria?

He said, it's for the oil. And he gave the game away, which is why the donor class hates Donald Trump so much. If you listen to CNN, they'll tell you they hate Donald Trump because he's a liar. If you think the establishment hates a politician because he went to Washington, D.C. and lied, I've got a vaccine I'd like to sell you. The reason they really hate Donald Trump is because he would accidentally tell truths like that, which the entire world got to see the president of the United States look into a camera and give the game away what our foreign policy has been for the last 50 years. We invade smaller countries that aren't as powerful, and we steal their natural resources,

and we give it to Western corporations. That's exactly what the game has been. And so anyway, that's been my evolution. And once I saw Russiagate happen, I knew it was bogus, right? And so I brought on Bill Binney, who was the number one NSA codebreaker for decades. And he showed forensically how it could not have been Russia that did that, and that this was all a concocted story. Well, now it's come out that we know that it was concocted. The P dossier, which was the Steele dossier, which was funded by the Clinton campaign. They lied about funding it for an entire year to the FBI.

I don't know why, because the FBI was in cahoots with them because the FBI lied to the FISA court 17 times so they can get those phone taps on Donald Trump's organization. And they still couldn't come up with a crime. So that and again, I'm not a Donald Trump fan. I didn't vote for Donald Trump. Like I said, I've always considered myself Trump fan. I didn't vote for Donald Trump. Like I said, I've always considered myself to be a liberal and a lefty. But what happened to the liberals is they became right-wing authoritarians, and especially around COVID. So when I saw through

Russiagate, and I could see the hoax that the corporate media can play, and along with the two political organizations, because remember, the people inside the Republican Party, the establishment also hated Donald Trump, right? It's the donor class. They run, you know, Ralph Nader said the only difference between a Democrat and Republican is the speed at which their knee hits the floor when a donor enters the room. So that sounds like a risque joke. But anyway, that's a quote from Ralph Nader. So that's why I met. He said one knee.

One knee. Yeah. So that is where I'm at politically. And so during COVID, the establishment that also pulled the hoax called Russiagate and did the Syrian war, did the Ukraine war. They've lied about every war in my lifetime, by the way. They lied about Vietnam through four different presidents. They lied about Iraq twice. They lied about Syria.

They lied about Yemen. They lied about Somalia. They lied about Afghanistan. They lied about Yemen. They lied about Somalia. Lied about Afghanistan for 20 years, if you read the Afghan story. But I know when it comes to Ukraine, I just think they're telling the truth. Anyway, so once I saw all the hoaxes and lies that they can pull, and then COVID happened, and then they did a lockdown. They did what they call a – they really did a controlled demolition of our economy which squashed workers and everybody except a handful of millionaires and billionaires based on no science

whatsoever and and they want me to be and they want me to be angry at my neighbor for the economic pain i'm feeling because of that because my neighbor wouldn't take a vaccine that didn't work the way they said it did in the first place. Well, I'm not going to hate my neighbor. My neighbor is not my enemy. My enemy is the oligarchy. My neighbor, I'm going to love my neighbor and join with my neighbor because he's hurting just like I am. And we share a common enemy. That enemy is the international billionaire oligarchy,

the WEF, the WHO, and the Wall Street. That is exactly who we're fighting against in the military industrial complex. They'll send $100 billion to the most corrupt country in Europe at the blink of an eye before they'll send a nickel to help people in the United States. And that's all by design.

It's by the design is to keep us all on edge and to keep us all begging for authoritarian solutions to our problems. That's why they, that's my theory anyway. That's why the border is wide open. And I don't demonize immigrants. If I was an immigrant, I would want to come to the United States too. What I demonize is the billionaire class that creates those people to be desperate through our drug wars and through our other wars. And also, which doesn't seal the border. That's

intentional. And they're shipping them to cities to create chaos. Chaos always favors the establishment. If there's a civil war in this country, it's because the billionaire class wants it. Because chaos always favors the establishment. And then they can do more authoritarian lockdowns. Just like 9-11. So, they had the Patriot Act on the shelf before 9-11 ever happened. People don't know that either, right?

And by the way, once they take away your rights, you're never getting them back. So we didn't get them back. And then Barack Obama repealed habeas corpus. That actually happened in the NDAA in 2011, section 1021, they repealed habeas corpus, right? So I don't know if you know what that means, but it means the net can now put you in jail and indefinite detention. That's a new thing we use. That's a new term. So they can, all they have to do is say you're a terrorist

and they can put you in jail without trial forever. So they repealed habeas corpus. Barack Obama did that. Now, habeas corpus was in the magnet. Hang on, hang on, Jimmy. Jimmy, one second. He repealed it globally or he looked through it in order to,

but he'd looked through it in order to keep people down on guantanamo uh well they also use it uh uh all they have to do is call you a terrorist and if they say you're a terrorist they don't have to give you a trial i mean lincoln repealed it lincoln actually repealed it right it was repealed during the civil war for a bit of time uh but it was reinstated so now we're operating on a liberty view from somewhere around the 1100 Lincoln actually repealed it, right? It was repealed during the Civil War for a bit of time. But it was reinstated. So now we're operating on a liberty view from somewhere around the 1100s. So just keep that in mind, right? As we're bringing democracy to the rest of the world.

We don't have democracy. And that's another thing that kind of cracks me up. And if I'm talking too much, just let me know. But I just think it's funny. No, no. I have people tell me, I have friends of mine who watch the corporate news and they think it's real that it's sponsored by the mill why do you think boeing sponsors the news are you in the are you in the market for a jet uh why do you think big pharma sponsors the news they do that because they don't want them investigating those people they used to get advertisers money so journalists could go do

investigations but now they get advertising money from the people they're supposed to be investigating. And so they're funding not their investigation, but they're funding their non-investigation, which is why you never see anybody investigate big pharma. You never see anybody investigate. You're never going to hear the truth. And that's why Tucker Carlson got fired from Fox News, not because he was lying. He used to lie a lot in his early career. It's when he started telling the truth. And the final straw was when he brought on RFK Jr. to tell the truth

about big pharma, and they fired his ass that week. So people need to understand that if just the book Manufacturing Consent by Ed Herman and Noam Chomsky was written before Bill Clinton, who was no friend of the working class, took us from 50 giant media companies down to six. And now it's journalists. Instead of coming from backgrounds like mine, my dad was a cop and a mason, and I grew up a bricklayer and a mason, and I've become a blue-collar neighborhood. That used to be where journalists came from. Now journalists come from Ivy League schools like Harvard, Columbia, and Northwestern, and they all come from the upper class, and they're all class loyal. The guy who they hired at the Washington Post, who hired him? Jeff Bezos, one of the richest guys in the world, hired a guy to cover the progressive politics in America during Bernie Sanders' run.

And who did he hire? He hired Dave Weigel. Who was Dave Weigel? He came from Northwestern University, an elite university, and he used to organize pro-Iraq war rallies on campus while he was the head of the newspaper at Northwestern. So that's the people you're getting your news from. People need to realize that they're not getting their news from normal journalists. They're getting their news from class-loyal, upper-crusted servants to the billionaire class. And that's why they just had to fire tens of thousands of journalists, and they're all lamenting it.

Taylor Lawrence did a TikTok that I showed on my show where she said, oh, my God, they're firing everybody at the LA Times, even Sports Illustrated. And she said, I don't think people know what the world's going to look like without journalists. I know what the world's going to look like without journalists like Taylor Lawrence and Dave Weigel. Every morning, a little bluebird is going to come land on my shoulder, and we're all going to break out in a song.

That's what the world's going to look like, because we don't need that. Let me stop you on journalists. I want to stop you on journalists, because I had this conversation with James O'Keefe just Monday, and he was saying the same thing, and he says that's why he has to do his muckraking, and that's why he has to use

the techniques he uses, is because they're liarsars and they're lying. And therefore he's justified in using sort of uncomfortable techniques and going at them. The question I keep asking people these days is what do we even mean when we say journalist? Do you know what a journalist is? Should there be professional standards? Should there be licensing? Is there a reason Tucker Carlson's not a journalist? I don't think I'm a journalist but maybe i am couldn't an average person function like a journalist i i don't know what it is anymore here's what journalism is this is what journalism is peeking your head down the street and reporting back what you see that's what journalism is and anybody could be a journalism a journalist because that's what it is they don't want you to think

that's what it is they want you to think it to think that's what it is. They want you to think it's some kind of special class of person because if anybody could do it, then everybody has a voice. And that's the last thing they want. So, yes, you do do journalism. Did this take it away? Did this thing take it away? The phone? The fact that we have Twitter spaces and the fact that we

can take pictures of everything wherever we want? Where's my phone? There. It certainly helps. It certainly helps turn everybody into a journalist, doesn't it? And by the way, when you gave my introduction, you could say you can see me everywhere. You could see me everywhere except TikTok. I got kicked off TikTok finally. And that's because TikTok is the most subservient to the security state, meaning the FBI and the CIA. And they do whatever they say because they don't want to lose their market share in the United States.

They're not. Anyway, so that's just another story. But anyway- And didn't you have some- We got in trouble on TikTok and I refused to go on there. I mean, I might look at my friends, but we don't post them. Susan is very concerned about-

I think it's China. Right, she's very concerned about the Chinese Communist Party controlling things. She figures that it's their business, so therefore they're involved with this. But you had an actual run-in with the FBI, didn't you, Jimmy? I don't know. I don't

remember me having a run-in. I thought you told me that they showed up. Maybe his name was Jimmy Dore. I mean, sorry, James O'Keefe, that somebody actually showed up and investigated you because I guess it was O'Keefe that had that happen to him. Yeah. And he was

saying that that was where his sort of shift came, where he started not trusting the government and start worrying about the overreach of the intelligence community and whatnot. And certainly I feel like the Twitter files have opened most eyes to the excesses and yet they keep going on. What are your thoughts about that?

Well, I hope you're right about that it's opened people's eyes because i don't think it did i think people then they so what they're told in the corporate media is to dismiss it as elon musk and some right-wing uh kind of uh charade or some kind of scam that the right-wingers who are and the anti-vaxxers and they don't know so nobody actually really, and I was wishing more people would look into Matt Type, because I think, I mean, you saw what the Democrats did to, so they always pretend that Donald Trump was the enemy of journalists, so of course, what, every accusation they make about Donald Trump is a confession, and because that's what

they're doing, it's called projection. It's a projection, projection, yeah. A friend of mine, I saw a psychoanalyst on an interview just the other day saying um whenever you see i hear a narcissist say i am no you are what you should hear is i am they always project you are fill in the blank but they really feel the reality is i am and uh so if you watch those congressional hearings with the schellenberger and uh matt tabi, it is disgraceful what happened. I'm like that. So now you know why people vote for Donald Trump, because both parties are completely bought. So I try to tell people, I go, you know, we're run by a cabal of billionaires.

Like, oh, Jimmy, really? What kind of meetings do they have? I'll tell you the meetings they have. The meeting they have is called a session of Congress. When there's a session of Congress, do you think those people are in there doing the bidding of workers and the elderly and the sick and the students? No, they're there doing the biddings of the donor class, which is why our country is the way it is. It's not because of Russia, a country that has a smaller GDP than California. Our country looks the way it is because the billionaire class wants it designed like that, because they're doing the bidding of the billionaire class. They can print $5 trillion

during COVID, not wanting plenty of it to go to try to fix homelessness or give people free college or healthcare or any of that. It all went right up to the thousand richest people in this country. We're ruled by criminals. I was going to tell you before, I have a friend of mine who says, you know, Jimmy, I'll go along with a lot of the shit you say, which actually sounds like he wouldn't. But he says, you know, I'm sorry, January 6th, that undermined our democracy. And I said, that's what you think, did it? You're adorable. You know, we don't live in a democracy. We live in an oligarchy, which was proven by a Princeton study over 10 years ago. Your country and democracy was stolen by corporations at least 50 years ago. And the

reason our country looks like this is we've been ruled by corporate criminals since 1980. At least that's why your country looks like this. And that's why we're ruled by octogenarians and older, because the corporation has made their investment in these people and they don't want to let go of them. So they're going to keep funding them so they can get reelected until they're in the grave, literally, which is what happened with Dianne Feinstein here. And what's certainly happening with Joe Biden, which certainly Joe Biden, there is no bigger friend to Wall Street, the credit card. And the reason why students can't get their student loans at sponge and bankruptcy court is because of Joe Biden. The reason why prisons are overflowing

with black and brown people isn't because of Donald Trump. It's because of Joe Biden, which I had to teach that to Cornel West when he came on my show, which is what a sad, sad state of affairs when Cornel West preaches about fascism and fighting for the working man. And the time came for him to do it. And he didn't do it. The time came during COVID. And all he could do is call his neighbor a fascist, neo-fascist, white supremacy this, white supremacy that. The time came to stand up for workers, and 70,000 workers got fired in one state alone because they wouldn't take an experimental medical treatment, and he didn't say a word about it. 41% of black-owned businesses went out of business during COVID, and he didn't say a word about it. So when the time came for people to stand up against fascism, authoritarianism, censorship, and they didn't.

The people I used to look up to and rely on didn't do it. They failed. And so it fell on the shoulders of people like me, people like you, people like Joe Rogan, Russell Brand. These are the only people, and that's why they have to criminalize, discredit, slander, and smear people like us. That's why you're demonetized on YouTube. That's what they did to russell brand that's what they've been trying to do to me so if you you can you don't get in trouble in journalism for lying for lying rachel maddow told crazy lies about russia running donald trump and our president is a traitor to our country they were all made up out of whole cloth and she got a what was her punishment for that for lying about that also lying about the vaccine by the way what was her punishment her punishment was she got a 35 million dollar contract you know

how much that is dr drew that's a hundred thousand dollars a day rachel maddow makes a hundred thousand dollars a day and people think she's telling the truth because she's a homosexual and homosexuals don't lie well i don't know if you ever heard about j edgar hoover but anyway my whole point is these people are psychopath criminals and that's why they have chris hayes also at msnbc because oh my god a nerd wouldn't lie to us he's a nerd nerds don't lie of course they do and so that these are the exact people they would try to put in those positions and they're there to manufacture consent that's what that's the point i was going to before noam chomsky proved Before, we had 50 giant media companies.

Now, we only have six. Even before that, they were there doing the bidding of the billionaire class that owns the media to manufacture consent for whatever is the policy they want. The Princeton study proved 10 years ago that in the United States, if you make in the lower 80% of wage earners in the country, legislation never reflects what you want. If you're in the upper 10% of the wealthy in America, and 50% of the wealthy want something, 50% of the time it gets implemented. It's a correlation like that. So that's the definition. We're in an oligarchy, an authoritarian oligarchy that owns the media. We're the most propagandized

people in the world. And we think it happened to somebody else. We think Russia or China are more propagandized to me. You know, if you're in China, they know when they see propaganda, they know the government's lying. In America, they really think when they turn on Fox News, CNN and MSNBC or read the New York Times or Jeff Bezos, Washington Post, that they're getting news. They're not getting news. They're getting 100 percent propaganda that is there to manufacture consent for whatever the billionaire class wants. Yeah, I got to say, I've only recently become to understand that I can't believe anything that's in the press. It's just, I got to help you if you are the object of a story, you see how far from the truth they go. And just because it's about you, that's not the exception for how they divert from fact, divert from the truth.

It's they're always doing that, and it's Gelman amnesia that's called, that you sort of think that they don't know your area of interest or your particular personal story. But of course, they would understand world politics, which is that much more complicated. I have to take a quick break. When we get back, I want to dig a little bit into the words psychopathic and authoritarian, which I've heard you say a few times today. And Jimmy Dore, everybody can follow him, follow the Jimmy Dore Show, watch the Jimmy Dore Show, follow, get on his Rumble channel, subscribe, and we'll be right back after this. Are you one of the millions of American women and men dealing with premature hair thinning and hair loss? Or maybe you're scared about inheriting that thinning look because it runs in your family?

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The Jimmy Dore Show is where you can find him. Can I ask a question about the wellness kit? Sure. The wellness company? Yeah, go ahead. I also want to give you a chance to ask Jimmy about the Putin interview, which is in your mind. Oh, yeah, that's a good one. I was talking to my last lady, and her boyfriend has an ear infection. And I was telling him about the wellness company and how when you have an emergency kit,

you can just have these antibiotics on hand, and you don't have to go to the emergency room, right? Or the urgent care. Correct. And because right now there's this virus going around where you get horrible chest and ear and nose and everything. It's worse than COVID. I've had it for a month. Okay. So viruses don't respond to any antibiotics. Right. But he's had it for a week and then he's now getting an earache.

It's not virus. It is mycoplasma that's been going around. It's that response to azithromycin, but Z-Pak. And if you get a secondary infection, like an ear gets occluded and bacteria gets in there and sets up, or you get a bacterial bronchitis following a viral infection, then antibiotics have some utility. Well, what about the Z-Pak? That's what I'm saying. But you don't just, if it is a virus, which most of these things are, you'll get better in a week. What about the inhalers? Do they put that in there in the emergency kit? No, but we're thinking about putting some inhalers

and some other stuff. So yeah, I talked to Mark Yargoz about that this morning. He was all about it. There's Jimmy Dore. And Jimmy, I think my wife has a question. Go ahead. But I've been, well, what I've been recommended to do when I can counter a virus like that is I take zinc.

I take elderberry. I take one of those airborne things, and I also get my vitamin D3 up. So a lot of people don't realize, oh, people get cold and flus in the winter. I've read studies that said that it's not because of anything else except that people get less vitamin D in the winter because they get less sunlight. So if you keep your vitamin D up, especially vitamin D3, that would help you a lot. Most of the people that were hospitalized from COVID had low vitamin D3. And we sell that at the wellness company, dru.com slash TWC, because they have all the elderberry and the zinc and the Zelenko products, you know, that you should take anyways.

Yes. You're right. There's a Zelenko product that's available. But again, that's all great. Those are all good things to do. But the point is antibiotics per se are for bacteria and antivirals is for that stuff. Well, I went about a week and it was just not going away.

You had mycoplasma, which is a bacterial type. So do the doctors over there tell you this? Like when you have like the telemedicine? There's a kid in there. And the telemedicine can straighten that out too. You're laughing, Jimmy. What's going on? No, I haven't had to call the wellness company but i'm just curious how it's up jimmy it's just it's i just your interaction with your wife is i love it it's adorable and she has she in addition to her being completely paranoid about the chinese but the ccp she's got questions about putin yeah i want to

know what you thought about Tucker's interview and how much was propaganda and how much was actual reality. So what people don't realize about the... First of all, I thought it was great. I thought, finally, somebody's interviewing that person. And of course, the mainstream media had, again,

slandered Tucker Carlson for doing journalism, right? And that's exactly what he did. Of course, he should be. I mean, when I was a kid, Mike Wallace, the good Wallace, interviewed Ayatollah Khomeini during the Iran hostage. They all do that. And we had Castro. Castro was interviewed.

All kinds of horrible leaders were interviewed. That's what we did. That's what journalism used to be. That's called journalism. So what people don't know about the Ukraine war is that it was 100% provoked by NATO in the West and the United States. And that they already had three peace plans already. And the United States and NATO squashed them. So in 2014, there was a coup.

It was called the Maidan coup. And what happened was the CIA got in bed with literal Nazis in Ukraine to overthrow their democratically elected government. So then the people in the eastern part of Ukraine called the Donbass didn't want to go along with that coup government. And so the new coup government started literally shelling the people who lived in the Donbass, like what they're doing to Gaza today, started shelling them. And so they came up with a peace accord called the Minsk Peace Accord. They had two of those. Now it was revealed by, I think it was Angela Merkel revealed that they never intended to abide by the Minsk Accords.

All that was, was to buy them time so they could build up the Ukraine army so they could provoke Putin into invading. So then they would have an army to fight him off when he did it. And how did they provoke him? Well, they threatened to put Ukraine intoo uh even though they had promised when they when the iron curtain fell that that wouldn't happen we wouldn't uh advance nato uh one inch of course they did that now there's like 10 or 12 more countries that are in nato and uh we did this and so and right before that putin invaded putin didn't invade to start a war he invaded to

stop a war and so the people who broke those mince peace accords was ukraine and the nato it wasn't it wasn't um putin in russia and so they ramped up they doubled their shelling of the donbass in order to provoke putin to do something like that and so he's right when he said i didn't invade to start a war invaded to stop a war And also to make sure to denazify Ukraine. And so if you know anything about the actual history, they'll never tell you this. Neither will normal Jon Stewart, right, who I used to be a hero of mine. But Jon Stewart hung a medal on a literal Nazi at Disney World. He won't tell you the truth about vaccines, COVID, lockdowns, masks, any of that stuff,

because he told you the truth about where the virus came when he got kicked out of polite society for a year and he'll never want to go through that again so he will never tell you the truth about ukraine i don't know i i his show last night i thought he was sort of getting you know we walk trying to walk down the middle a little bit and uh he he certainly you know a forbidden topic presently is the President of the United States' mental status or cognitive status or neurological status. Any of those topics are forbidden. And it's obviously there's something going on. But he addressed it. I thought that was pretty great.

I say good for him. I'm not saying he doesn't do good work. I'm saying he'll never tell you the truth about Ukraine. And he'll never tell you the truth about vaccines or COVID. Those are off. Those are third rail topics. And he knows he couldn't cross them and he didn't but i will tell you the truth about ukraine which i just did this is another money transfer there was another by the way they had a peace agreement worked out in march of 2022 right after the war

started they had it worked out it was all i mean their documents are there you can see them they what did they do they boris johnson flew to ukraine and he told and by the way um zielinski is just a puppet right he knows exactly if he actually did a peace agreement that he would be killed right they would they would got momar kaddafi him that's exact as soon as he's not useful they'll kill not they'll and they would have the nazis who threatened to do it they said if you do a peace agreement we'll hang you from a tree in town square that's what they told him. And then Boris Johnson, Boris Johnson, who was outed in that interview,

he freaked out, called Tucker all kinds of names, but at no point did he say, I never did that. He did not deny it in all his things. But I want to go back to 2017 when they overthrew that, what you call democratically elected president i remember that and of course the only thing i i had was what i saw on television at the time and now i know to be skeptical of everything i i see on tv but what i remember was interviews with lots of

ukrainians going we didn't understand what a puppet this man was we also didn't understand that he was draining our treasury. He had all these riches. Remember, they gave tours of the house he was in, with all these riches and gold and things. And that was all then blamed on Russia. What about that? I don't know about that, but I do know that the CIA got in bed with Nazis and overthrew their democratically elected government in 2014. i do know there were two peace agreements called the minx accords that ukraine violated on purpose and that uh angela merkel uh admitted that they didn't ever wanted to follow those peace accords that they just wanted more time to build up the ukraine military so this is an economic war against russia and this has

been by the way to do this has been warned against since by people from Henry Kissinger to Noam Chomsky. So all sides of the political spectrum have warned the leaders of the United States and the West not to do this. Why? Because it would push Russia closer with China. And that's the one thing they did. But the bigger thing that they feared was Russia getting together with Germany. So it was Russians' manpower and their natural resources combining with Germany. So it was Russians manpower and their natural resources combining with Germany's engineering and industrial power. And they always feared that. And that's why they blew up the Nord Stream pipeline, which was blown up by the United States. And so, by the way, the biggest, so the people are telling you they want to fight climate change. They blew up the Nord Stream

pipeline, the biggest release of methane gas in the history of the world. And that was sabotaged. And everybody knows it. I testified at the UN Security Council to that fact. And now Germany is paying two, three times higher the rate for energy than they were before they did that. So we're putting an economic hurt on Europe and we're putting an economic hurt in the United States because of money printing, because of inflation, so we can fund these wars. But guess what's happening to Russia? Russia's economy is better than it was before the war. They're closer together with China.

And now there's economic power centers being formed. This is the stuff they said Donald Trump was going to trigger in the world, that people would then come together to oppose us because they wouldn't respect us. That's exactly what's happening right now with Dement joe and his neocon warmongers right so now we have this thing called bricks which is uh china russia brazil south uh africa um india they're all coming together and now what underpins america's economy people don't realize this is called the petrodollar when when nixon took us off the gold standard in the 70s they they then replaced that with the petrodollar. What is that, Jimmy? That is a promise from Saudi Arabia

that they would only sell oil in US dollars. So what does that mean? So that means the rest of the world has to keep a reserve currency of US dollars so they can now trade and get oil. But they've broken that since we did this Ukraine war. Now Saudi Arabia is starting to sell oil in other denominations, in Chinese denominations, in Indian denominations. So that's going away.

And once the petrol gallery goes away, we can't be a money printing machine anymore. And once we're not the reserve currency of the world, that is going to crash our economy like you can't believe. And that's happening under Joe Biden and the neocon warmongers that they said that's the kind of stuff that would happen under Donald Trump. And all I can say about Donald Trump is he was the only president in my lifetime that didn't start a war. And so

where are we going and what needs to be done? What's your sort of assessment? You mentioned before the break that there is alternative media outlets breaking up. There are parallel economies springing up. But how do we find our way out of all this? So I think the truckers in Canada laid a template for it, right? So, of course, they're going to call you a Nazi and a white supremacist.

You know, when I saw the first videos of the trucker protests in Canada about the forced mandates and the things that went around that, which was vaccine passports and all that stuff. I saw white truckers and black truckers and native truckers and Indian truckers with the beards and the thing. And when I saw that, I was like white supremacist. And so the most peaceful protesters you ever saw. By the way, the truckers were vaccinated as at a higher rate than the general population in canada they weren't protesting vaccines or medicine they were protesting bullshit authoritarianism and they were right and so that's what we need we need uh there's a story that henry kissinger tells and what about the war protesters going uh lining up around the white house and they had school buses in behind the fences and uh n Nixon turns to Henry, and that was so in case they broke through the fences,

they would have something to stop them a little bit. And Nixon turned to Henry Kissinger, he said, Henry, I'm afraid if they break through the fence, they're going to come for us. And that's exactly where we want them. We want them to be afraid of us. And this January 6th insurrection, which was instigated by the FBI plants, and they had more, I did a thing called force to vote, which was to get the Democratic squad. Remember how Matt Gaetz, he could extract things from McCarthy when he wanted their

vote for speaker? Well, because it's such a tight margin. Well, in 2021, same thing for the Democrats and the squad, AOC, Jamal Bowman, all those people, they ran on opposing Nancy Pelosi and getting a vote for Medicare for all on the floor. And so we've wanted this for over a generation, two generations on the left. Nancy Pelosi ran on getting a vote on Medicare for all in the 90s. So this was the perfect opportunity. They had eight votes in the squad.

She needed all eight of them to become elected. So if they voted as a bloc, they could extract something like matt gets extracted from they so we think it was called forced to vote so we did a rally at the at the capitol in january almost right before at the same time uh they did january 6th there were more cops and there was a national guard there for our health care rally that was out there for the thousands and thousands of people that they knew were showing up to protest that election. So this was all again, this was this was so they can they're not they're not just doing this in America, Dr. Drew, but I mean, criminalizing anybody who stands up against the establishment. They did it in Pakistan. Right. So the most

popular politician in Pakistan in decades, they just criminalized because he stood up against the NATO war machine. And he said, never again, we're going to be a peaceful country. And they immediately criminalized him. Now, they did the same thing in Brazil. If you remember, Lula was the big lefty, and then they put him in prison. And they thought the center right guy was going to win. But son of a gun, Bolsonaro won, who's the Trump equivalent in Brazil, and they screwed up. So they had to let Lula back out of prison because they knew he was the only one who could beat Bolsonaro. He did beat him and then they immediately criminalized Bolsonaro. And so now Bolsonaro can't run for president. They're doing

the same thing in the United States. It's an international billionaire class. That's what they're using the RICO statute, which everybody was okay with when they invented them in the 70s because they said they were only going to be used to go after the mafia. Well, now they're using them to go after their political opponents and Donald Trump. If the establishment and they also it doesn't matter if you're powerful like Donald Trump, if you don't have any power, like people who are protesting the expansion of the police state in the United States called Stop Cop City in Atlanta. They use the exact same RICO statute and they use the exact same grand jury to prosecute

Donald Trump as they're used to indict the Stop Cop City protesters. And when I had Cornel West on my show, I told him, I go, do you see the game they're playing now? And he pretended he didn't see the game he was being played now because he didn't want to get kicked out of polite liberal society and say that, yeah, it's dishonest what they're doing, and we need to stand up for everybody. He would stand up for Stop Cop City, but he wouldn't stand up for Donald Trump because, believe me, if they're going to do it to Donald Trump, they'll do it to anybody who stands up and whoever is a threat to the establishment. If Cornel West ever had a spine and integrity enough to stand up to the establishment in a way that would hurt them, they would criminalize him. If Bernie Sanders had a spine and stood up to the establishment, they would criminalize him.

If I stood up, they would criminalize me. They'd do the same thing to you. So anybody who stands up, they're going to call you a criminal, which is why they got rid of habeas corpus. Look what they're doing to Julian Assange. Julian Assange is not in prison because he's lied. Julian Assange is because he revealed their war crimes. That's why he's in prison. That's why Edward Snowden is stuck in Russia. Not because they lied, but because they told the truth, the establishment doesn't want to hear. And that's why they hate Donald Trump, because he accidentally tells truth that the president of the united states isn't supposed to tell

and so what what again those are the those are the facts as you see it what what are the ways out is it just about the only way out continuing to the only way out is what christian smalls set a template for this uh he was the organizer of a union, the first union for Amazon on Staten Island. What is Staten Island? It's full of a bunch of Trump voters. He's a black guy who organized Trump voters to oppose the oligarchy at Staten Island, and he won. He came left, right, coming together, realized they have more in common that divides us, and we have a common enemy, and that is the establishment oligarchy donor class. And so the truckers and now farmers, right?

So now farmers all over Europe are going to their – So if the farmers and truckers in the United States decided to shut capitalism down, that's the only thing that's going to save this country, by the way. So we need a real revolution, something like that. People going there, scaring the hell out of the ruling class, maybe evening them i think that's exactly what we need they definitely need to shut down capitalism so so slow down so so what i'm you know i i think when you say oligarchs people get a little turned off by that it sounds too shadowy it sounds too 007 it sounds's too far from our everyday experience. And yet you can certainly just look at Twitter, look at television, look at anything, and you see an ensconced elite. And everyone knows there's an

ossified elite in power in universities, in businesses, in regulatory systems, and in all these organizations you've been pointing at, including the government. Isn't that the real enemy, this sort of stock elite? And that's what needs to be kind of turned over? That's exactly what I'm referring to. I'm talking about the billionaire class that owns the media. There's only a handful of maybe 15 billionaires

that run all the media in this country. There's only six media companies. You know, it's just like, you remember when Trump wanted to go in Bolton, wanted to go into Venezuela and get their oil? Trump even brags, he goes, yeah, we would have had that oil. And, you know, I found out that Venezuela has more oil than Saudi Arabia. When I found that out, I knew it was just a matter of time before we tried to bring some democracy to their people. And so the reason why that happened was because the oligarchs, meaning the billionaires who run the real government and pull the strings, the Koch brothers had built the oil refinery. So that's heavy crude in Venezuela. That's not the sweet crude that comes from places like Saudi Arabia. That's the

heavy crude. So it needs extra refining. So they had built these special refineries, and I think it was in Louisiana, to refine this heavy crude from Venezuela. Well, they knew that. Venezuela knew that they needed that. So they upped the price. And they got pissed off. They didn't want to pay that price. So they were like, hey, we're just going to overthrow your government.

We're going to criminalize you. We're going to prop up Juan Guaido, which is that puppet. And so that's how things work. So that's what I'm talking about. So there's a handful of millionaires and billionaires. And I talked about it when I had you on my show yesterday that I can't say anything on my show on YouTube that contradicts what Bill Gates wants me to say. A guy who never graduated college, by the way. But every news organization asks him his opinion on farming and asks him his opinion on vaccines and medicine and health care. He can never finish college.

Why is that? Because he's got a lot of money and he pulls the strings. And why can't I contradict Bill Gates? Because I'm not allowed to contradict the WHO on YouTube. Well, what does that have to do with each other, Jimmy? Well, the former head of the WHO, I have on video saying, we have to go around the world begging for money because that's a private organization that isn't elected, that's run on donations. And so whoever donates to them, they have to then do their bidding. That's a direct quote from the former head of the WHO. Well, the number one donor to the WHO turns out to be Bill Gates. And he does it through the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and Gavi,

which is another pro-vaccine NGO that he set up. So whatever he says, I can't contradict on YouTube. That's the oligarchy I'm talking about. That's the kind of control. They control the media. They control the narrative. And that's why they're so, look what they did to ivermectin. Ivermectin, which was a Nobel Prize winning human medicine. It's on the WHO list of essential medicines. It's been prescribed billions of times, saved billions of lives, but they made people think it was poison.

And you were some kind of a redneck anti-science person if you advocated trying it. That's the power of that propaganda that's owned by that donor class, the billionaire class, the oligarchy. That's what I'm talking about. But you mentioned the revolt against them. What does that look like? What does that look like?

The revolt starts with getting your information from other places in corporate media. You go to your Rumble channel, you go to MindRumble, you go to anybody who's on, I'm advocating Rumble, Rumble, Glenn Greenwald, and you have to start, you gotta get the information.

So if you don't have the true information, you don't know really what's happening. And if people, when people get their information, so that's step one. So that's good. So it's a place to start. So it's go to a free outlet of expression and listen to lots of different ideas. Maybe follow Schallenberger, follow Taibbi,

follow Barry Wise. These are all, Glenn Greenwald, these are all excellent sources of information. Schallenberger, I've met and talked to, guy's a brilliant dude. These are real people, really thoughtful people. Those three for sure I can vouch for. And then just the fact

that we have the opportunity to come up with these, I just call them parallel economies. I don't know what else to call them. Parallel medias, parallel digital. So digital, I guess what I'm wondering is, one of the things I jotted down when you were talking at the very beginning,

you talked about how the lying has always been in place. Is it the fact that we have, is the digital revolution really the new Gutenberg Bible? And that's the only reason we are exposing the lies as people are able to share information on such a rapid and massive scale now that lies can no longer be perpetrated without somebody exposing them. Yes, and that's why they had to shut down WikiLeaks and Julian Assange and make an example of him. So it's more important to have him as an example to anybody else who thinks they're going to tell the truth because that's what's going to happen to you. And so you're exactly right. So the digital media, they have to control the narrative,

which is what the Twitter files revealed. Because if they can't control the narrative and they can't censor and discredit people telling the truth, then they lost control of the narrative, which is all the power they have. And if they lose that, then they have to start disappearing people. And that's a lot harder and it's a lot messier. Not that they don't do it, but it's a lot harder and a lot messier.

So they'd rather discredit you like they did to Russell Brand, like they try to do to Glenn Greenwald and Matt Taibbi and so on. And again, anybody, look what they did to you just for asking honest questions and telling the truth about, as you see it, from a medical perspective,

that you're not allowed to do that. That's called authoritarianism. And our country's run by those kinds of psychopaths, these antisocial, violent. Again, this latest round of bombing in Iran, I was watching CBS News. It's so amazing. The reporter was talking about how the drone that bombed a base of ours that was, by the way, they showed the map. We have a base in Syria.

We have two military, permanent military bases in Syria. The news reporter never mentions hey that's illegal by international standards why are we occupying another country and it said that drone that was iran based or backed was allowed to come in because of another drone that was coming back from a mission in syria a mission was the mission to bring books to the people of syria or was it to bomb and do war in Syria they never tells you that we're over there doing war killing people on the regular and that's why those people are killing us if we got the hell out of the Middle East which is what Donald Trump ran on

in 2016 which was the first mistake he made that that made the donor class hate him uh he ran on getting us out of there and uh so that's what they can't have. They need imperialism, hegemony, and endless war because that's a money-funneling organ. So the Ukraine war isn't a war. It is a money-laundering operation. And that's why they got to get that money. They don't care if they use 100,000, 200,000, 300,000 Ukrainians as cannon fodder. It doesn't matter to these people because they are psychopaths. And it's called the banality of evil.

And they can do this kind of evil because it fills their pockets with hundreds of billions of dollars just imagine how much they sent 113 billion dollars to ukraine at the snap of the fingers you know how much money that is you know the music industry in the united states in the united states the music industry every recorded piece of music you know how much it makes in a year 12 billion dollars the entire music industry only makes 12 billion dollars they They sent $113 billion to Ukraine at the snap. That's how much money people have to wrap their brain around that. A million seconds is something like 11 days. A billion seconds is 31 years. That's the difference in what we're doing. And we're bankrupting. That's just the way all countries end. And now they have the border open

because people aren't signing up for the military anymore. Well, that's one of the reasons. And so Dick Durbin gave a speech on the floor of the Senate. I'm not making this up. You can look at the video. And he said we have to allow illegal immigrants into our military because we are not meeting our recruiting goals. Why? Because we have a thousand military bases around the world that we don't need. And the number one emitter of carbon in the world is the U.S. military. And you're never going to see Greta Thunberg protesting at the opening of another military base, which is how you know she's a PSYOP working for the establishment.

Jimmy, I was promised, I promised I would let you go at 3.30. We have passed that deadline. I've got a whole other topic to get into if you can stick around a few minutes. I don't want to muscle you to stay. I mean, if you need to go, I totally understand. I see you looking at your staff there. I would love to. What's Misha say?

I would love to stay, but I honestly have a doctor's appointment. All right, no problem. If I didn't have a doctor's appointment, I would certainly stay. This has been really a pleasure. I'll come back anytime. All right, well, that's great. Yeah, we'll have This has been really a pleasure. I'll come back anytime. All right. Well, that's great. Yeah, we'll have you back.

Emily loves you. She'll be emailing you quickly. Our booker. Yeah. And there's a lot of stuff I wanted to get into on cannabis and vaccines and sort of on the medical side. I know. I wanted to get, you did a whole standup hour on cannabis or a play or something about cannabis,

right? Yes, called Marijuana Lugs. That was a part of a play that ran off Broadway for a year called Marijuana Lugs. That was a part of a play that ran off Broadway for a year called Marijuana Lugs. It was a real part of my identity in my life. I still don't have bad feelings about it, but it's a real interesting story about how I quit. So I'd love to come back on and tell it.

Yeah, yeah. All right, there's a lot of different, and the cannabis story is getting more complicated because of the science around cannabis. The potency of what they're producing is like, wow, and creating lots of problems. All right. Well, I'll let you go, Jimmy.

Thank you so much. We'll miss you when you're gone. I learned a lot today, Jimmy. Thank you. Uh-oh. You've radicalized my wife. I still don't trust Putin, but you guys keep making me lean. Once she gets radicalized, she gets very stuck.

She does not come back. So thank you, Jimmy, for making me lose my wife. Okay. America's the world's terrorist. We'll see you soon, my friend. Jimmy Dore, everybody. The Jimmy Dore Show. JimmyDore.com. Jimmy underscore Dore on X. What'd you learn, Susan?

I don't know. I was just trying to keep up. He talks very fast. Well, you should listen. Did you listen to this show I did with him yesterday? No. You know what? I didn't, and I wish I had, but I didn't want to listen and then tell you what you should talk about because I have a problem with that. But I was worried you wouldn't have anything to talk about today, but clearly you had plenty.

Clearly. Clearly. I told you not to worry. And there's more where that came from. We have a lot of stuff. People in the comments. I wrote two pages. People in the comments, Drew,

they were all like, Drew, stop interrupting him. Let him talk. Just let Jimmy talk, Drew. They were trolling you. You're laughing because- You barely spoke. Yeah, because I barely spoke.

And that's really interesting. He's so interesting. And I wrote two pages of, I know I wrote two pages of, I know I wrote two pages of notes of stuff I want to get into with him and very, very little. We'll have him back. All right.

We have some openings in March. That's good. Let me just, I would have him on once a month. No problem. All right. Hang on. Somebody has a,

just looking at some of the rumble rants. If you guys give me a second on that, I saw some of the stuff that Caleb was putting up that you guys were saying. Let's see. Well, they're repeating what Jimmy says. A lot of Nazi talk and a lot of terrorist talk and a lot of support for Jimmy Dorn. Boy, he's got some great fans.

Let me just, I'm quickly scrolling back i just i i just always have interest in how wars start and how they always start over you know oil or a woman or you know something see to overthrowing a government and then to me i i could never speak the way yeah thank, but a fan, because I only, I wasn't even playing devil's advocate. I was just asking things. I'm just curious about that stuff.

Because here's why. I mean, to this point I was just going to make, which is I could never speak with that kind of clarity and confidence about anything geopolitical, political generally, because it's just, there's so many players. It's so complicated. There's so many players it's so complicated there's so many

varied motivations people have and yes for sure money is one of them for sure but the thing that i've kind of zeroed in on lately is the mark chankisi construct which is that people get convinced that they're doing good look at mao during the cultural revolution and always when social evil is done, it is in the name of good. And if they get to follow some money alongside of it, and that's motivating, of course, that's going to be part of the deal. You look no further than the opioid crisis, everybody. It was a perfect model of this. These professionals decided that the pain was something that needed to be eradicated in America.

They built theories and contracts and then had a whole bunch of research to support themselves that we were under-prescribing opiates, that opiates dealt with all pain, that opiate addiction was essentially no risk. Literally the literature they were using is showing that if you took opiates,

they essentially took people in the hospital and put them on a bunch of opiates. And then when they came out of the hospital, they didn't have addiction and said, look, three days of opiates and no addiction. And by the way, no defining of what addiction is, no understanding of whether they had any predisposition for addiction or had addiction before they're exposed to the opiates, nothing of that was discussed. And then we went headlong into these evangelizing, not religious evangelist, topic evangelist. Pain is the fifth vital sign.

Anyone that didn't give pain medicines was opiophobic, was interested in patient suffering, was a evil person, interesting and harming people. That was the first time I went through that, when I was called an evil, bad physician. I was very nearly, thank God I was doing so much good on the addiction side, that the patients understood that they had to go through some discomfort in order to get to where they needed to be to survive.

And then my peers kept killing my patients hand over fist, hand over fist, by putting them back on opiates, not overdosing. The folklore in retrospect would be, well, they went back and took their usual dose. And of course, that was too much for them because they were no longer tolerant. No, that is not what happened. They were giving small amounts, but they were also given benzodiazepines because my patients are drug addicts. They know what to ask for. And that was what suppressed their respirations. And maybe they took a little too much. Addicts tend to do that. And that was the end of that.

It happened to hundreds of my patients. And it was because there were physicians who were evangelical in their sense. They have found their life purpose and they were gonna do good and take pain away from humans, America forever. And they did untold harm. And then the money came in after that. That was the Sacklers

and all the stories you know about how the drug companies were so duplicitous in all this and kept blowing the winds into the sails of what the professionals were already doing. The attorneys started criminalizing doctors for inadequate treatment of pain. The pain evangelists got control of the regulatory system. And so doctors were getting in trouble with their state medical board and the joint commission of hospital accreditation. They started stepping in and becoming the muscle of the evangelizing professionals. And think how many thousands, well, people are still dying every day on the streets of this city from people that were strung out on oral opiates 10, 15 years ago.

Now they've graduated onto heroin and then fentanyl. And untold, thousands were killed because of this. And that's how evangelism, that's how good people believing they're doing good do amazing harm. And it is happening right now on a large scale. We have to watch out for them. All right. So let me just look at your comments one more time on the restream

before I wrap this thing up. Susan or Caleb, anything you're thinking about, interested in? That's why we put the schedule up for what's coming up tomorrow. I think we have the one and only oh do you want to take calls suzy want to take some calls sure all right let's do that there's a few people on

there this okay this is uh concordia uh and as we all put your cartoon up there it's a little little time lapse but yeah come on concordmute yourself and come up to the front of Twitter spaces. You join and then you unmute yourself after you request. There you go, Concordia. Hey, what's going on there? Hey, you guys are pretty awesome. I thank you for what you do. One thing I want to say is that

you have been amazing when it comes to health in the modern age. I mean, my parents in regards to whatever is going on right now

is good. But when you brought Jimmy door in, I think that you guys need to take a look back in history about the, uh, CRC and what's, what is it? What's that? What's CRC? The, um, and what's what is it what's that what's crz the um bankers that have been controlling things since 1913 to take control of america sort of thing um jimmy doerr i mean look man i okay here's what just happened.

You'll understand this, Drew. I got really super self-conscious and I couldn't talk. You guys were talking about a whole lot of things going on in present time. What bothers me about a whole lot of people when it comes to news media or even you guys talking about stuff that's going on, I know that you have a lot of pressures going on in present time, but what you don't often think about is what's been going on previous to that. And I think that that has a huge impact on what's going on in present time. So for instance, I'm sorry.

Do you feel like I'm taking over? I'm sorry. Go ahead. We have to kind of make quick, but I don't disagree with you that we should be looking at history. The problem is, you know, how do you find the details of history that are true and honest? And that is a challenge.

That is a challenge. I get that. It is. One thing that you brought up with Jimmy Dore is how do we do that? And what I would suggest to you, and it makes me nervous because I don't want it to disappear, but maybe suggest books that would be informative to people to educate them on what's been going on. Do you have something in mind? Do you have something? No, no. no no I would ask you to maybe provide that to us because what I've done

I've been a person who's just kind of observed what's going on and not really cared too much about delving into details but just focusing on patterns

and the patterns so let me okay yeah patterns oh i was going to say that the the way i have to give other people a chance to speak but i will address your thing the way i think about this of of late is how to free your mind from propaganda how to how to do i i don't want to i don't want to be a source of propaganda i don't want to tell people um that they should read xyz books unless they have some specific you know want to learn something about where i learned something but i'm reading books about uh caleb help me who is that we had that neurologist in about two weeks ago he wrote a book like uh your brain under attack or the the brain uh and then also there's a free your mind as a book these are all i recommend people learn about how cynical theories read cynical theories

that's a great book to try to see through what's going on now so you can then make some choices and look back at things and be kind of skeptical about what's going on. But Caleb's going to come up with that book. I think it's called Free Your Mind is the one I've just been looking at. Cynical Theories is another one. And then the one from the neurologist, which it's a little heady. But I thought he was very convincing about the brain under attack, both with viruses and medication and propaganda and how to fight against that.

So you can make your own assessments. I think that's- Was it James Corbett or Jordan- Cynical theories, there's one. Free Your Mind was the other. Cynical theories by two British people, one's a physicist and listened to Mark Cianchese. Listen to his daily, you know, look at his YouTube,

and you can understand how cognitive distortions work. I really think that's the work right now, is you have to, you know, try to see things clearly as best you can, which is really, really, really hard. Highlander, go ahead and unmute yourself, and I'll let you comment there. And Caleb, go ahead and throw the books up if they come along. Well, thank you, doctor. Regarding narcotics, it's a mixed blessing for my family. We're allergic and I go through the

VA health system and I'm lucky. I mean, it's very regional. I'm lucky I got a good set of doctors. In any case, my point being, so the family is allergic to narcotics. The unfortunate part is when we had to put mom into hospice last Christmas season, we didn't realize it was through her side. So what does she get? And I'll just say Michigan. Yeah, she'll get benzodiazepines. Nothing but narcotics.

No monitoring, no nothing. Narcotics. None of us realizing mom was the source of us being allergic. I'd step back and like to hear from you professionals about that aspect. So when you say allergic, what specifically are you talking about? Vomiting? Islander?

We're just so nauseous that it's easier to take the pain than it is the nausea if that makes any sense at all it does A that's not an allergic reaction A B there are medications to block that nausea

they're pretty effective C they will give they can give benzodiazepines in high high doses so people are sort of asleep um i'm i wish they could give propofol that'd be the ultimate thing but of course they can't um and they and they can mess around with the opiates try to find something that um that does not cause as much nausea usually they can find something has to be given by shot has to be given you know by other than oral means typically though even then it can much nausea. Usually they can find something, has to be given by shot, has to be given by other than oral means typically, though even then it can cause nausea, of course. But the really crazy thing though is we're using pretty much only two medications to help people

with the end of life. That's opiates and benzodiazepines. And I don't know why, in California, we are able to use more stuff because they do have sort of assisted suicide kinds of practices. It's very hard to get that stuff done. It does seem to me that we should, much to what your Highlander is bringing up here, we should expand the range of what we have available for patients to make death dignified and comfortable. It's part of life.

We hide death away. We pretend it doesn't happen. We are mortified of it. It can be done with dignity. It can be done with comfort. And if you are really uncomfortable with opiates, I am too. I worry about that kind of stuff for myself because when I have surgery, I get dysphoric from the opiates. So I'd rather take the pain myself. That's the way I get too. So I understand what you're talking about. But the sedating medicines, the sleeping medicines, the medicines to cause amnesia

can kind of pull up the slack a little bit. I like morphine. I know, you're lucky that you have that kind of genetics. Or it's... So, all right. Thank you guys for your questions. I've got to kind of wrap things up here. It's been a very interesting day.

Jimmy, do you want to- I had Demerol, right? When I had the- That was not good for you. For the, when I had my triplets, I was in so much pain and I took too much and then I almost died. I can't remember, Drew.

Because it didn't work. Didn't work. I feel like back, like, you know, back in 2000, whenever I was going through the hospital and stuff, there was a name of something that was a non-opioid pain medication that you had mentioned.

Toradol. Toradol, is that what you're talking about? Okay, I was getting that mixed up with tramadol and tramadol is I think opioid. Toradol for some of us, yeah, tramadol is an opioid, weak opiate though. But toradol for those of us that don't know, toradol remarkably effective for me.

In fact, it caught my attention so profoundly. I thought, wow, I didn't know Toradol was this effective. Not for everybody, but it can be very effective for some people. Our friend that just had a big chest surgery couldn't tolerate the opiates, and Toradol took away chest surgery pain. So that was- What's he doing? He went home.

He's going home. He's going home already? Yep. Oh, hallelujah. Yeah. So in any event, let's put the schedule up for the week. We have Alex Berenson, the one and only coming in here tomorrow.

And then we have Zuby on Thursday, which will be great. I can't wait to talk to him. Rob Henderson, the new book is called Troubled. Tess Laurie, Brett Weinstein, Dave Rubin. Look at March, very big, big week coming up, or very big month coming up, frankly. And we had to reschedule Kelly Victory,

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