Ask Dr. Drew - Kennedy Nation (Tries To) Save The World From Kamala Harris & Sydney Sweeney Haters + Hypnotist Jeffrey Rose on MAHA & Daylight Savings Time (Should It Be Abolished?) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 517

Episode Date: August 9, 2025

Fox News host and former MTV VJ Kennedy Nation discusses the upcoming Kamala Harris memoir “107 Days” and Gen-Z dating trends. Jeffrey Rose, a clinical hypnotist and sleep counselor, discusses the... adverse effects of daylight saving time on children’s sleep and health, advocating for later school start times. Kennedy hosts Kennedy Saves The World on Fox News and is a regular on Gutfeld!. She authored The Kennedy Chronicles: The Golden Age of MTV Through Rose Colored Glasses. Follow at https://x.com/kennedynation Jeffrey Rose is a clinical hypnotherapist, nutritionist, and sleep counselor who hosts Holistic Healing and serves as Legislative Coordinator for Start School Later. With over 30 years of experience, he integrates hypnosis with cognitive-behavioral therapy. Follow at https://x.com/hypnotistinNYC 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 Find out more about the brands that make this show possible and get special discounts on Dr. Drew's favorite products at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/sponsors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/fatty15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/paleovalley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • VSHREDMD – Formulated by Dr. Drew: The Science of Cellular Health + World-Class Training Programs, Premium Content, and 1-1 Training with Certified V Shred Coaches! More at https://drdrew.com/vshredmd • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twc.health/drew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠) and Susan Pinsky (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/firstladyoflov⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠e⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Old Friends Day today. Kennedy joins me, Kennedy Nation, both on X and on Instagram. And after Kennedy and I share some thoughts, Jeffrey Rose, he's a hypnotist, talk a little about sleep and kids and maybe even a little bit about daylight savings times a little bit. But, excuse me, Kennedy has got a lot to talk to us about the Kennedy Chronicles, the Golden Age of MTV, through rose colored glasses, is a book. and Kennedy, of course, is killing it on Fox News. There is the book right there. And we'll be right back with Kennedy Montgomery after this. Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre. The psychopaths start this.
Starting point is 00:00:43 He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction. Fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous. I'm a doctor for a second. Where the hell you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Loveline all the time. Educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat. Do you have trouble? You can't stop and you want to help stop it. I can help. I got a lot to say. I got a lot more to say.
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Starting point is 00:03:12 So I want to know something. What is New York City doing? What's up with Mondani? Mondami. Everyone I know is really freaked out by this guy. anyone who has any money saved, any money in real estate, a good job. They're all talking about leaving the city if they still live here. I've seen an exodus of some of my friends and coworkers since COVID.
Starting point is 00:03:36 And a lot of them have gone to New Jersey if they still work in Manhattan, places like Jersey City and Hoboken. And, you know, they use the ferry system and the path trains. And they get into the city pretty easily. They just don't have to pay New York City taxes. but you are going to see people moving far, far away and figuring out different ways to live life because they will be forced to
Starting point is 00:03:58 because the way the city will shake out if you have someone in control who will use his power and influence over the city council to do what Alvin Bragg is already doing and that is letting really violent people go so they can reoffend. And then you have, on the sadder side, you have the mentally ill drug addicts who don't get the kind of help that they need. And they are thrown out like garbage onto the street.
Starting point is 00:04:31 And sometimes they're violent and sometimes they're just miserable. And for some reason, all of the high, high taxes don't seem to help people like that. And it just, it makes you shake your head because everyone has a story every day about interfacing. either, you know, with extremely mentally ill people who sometimes they're kind of scary because if someone is having an episode and you're in a confined space, it's hard to know what to do because someone like Mom Donnie wants to send social workers out to reason with people. But, you know, when someone is in psychosis, you're not going to be able to reason with them and they're going to see those people as a threat and act accordingly.
Starting point is 00:05:17 And I worry that... Let me be clear. To send a social worker in to deal with the most seriously advanced brain diseases that human can develop is the same thing as sending a physical therapist in to do orthopedic surgery. Physical therapists are wonderful. Socialists are wonderful. They are not trained to manage the most seriously brain diseased human. That is the domain of doctors and nurses.
Starting point is 00:05:47 They are, they don't, not, I train to identify it, not trained to manage it, nor do they have the tools to treat it. So it is absurd to send social workers into these situations that are essentially hospitals without walls and without doctors and nurses. It really is, it's, it's anathema, it's disgusting. But back to our friend Madami. If you looked at his background, I mean, it's so. it's so stunning. He's the last person you want in a position of government. He did some sort of history of a certain part of Africa at Bowden. That was his major. He then became a DJ or something. He comes from big money. Parents are also not on the elitist.
Starting point is 00:06:31 They're professors of, you know, sort of at Columbia. I don't know, I forget even the disciplines they're in. He goes to other countries and has to have security and willfully has no problem. paying for that because he comes from a lot of money and he's going to tell other people the ensconced elite and the disdain they have for everybody else and the sense that they know all the
Starting point is 00:06:55 answers could not be further from true so he spent part of his formative years in Gonda where he has family and that's where he just went on an extended honeymoon and he had about two dozen special forces officers
Starting point is 00:07:11 with fully automatic weapons there at the Reddy's standing guard. And he said, I'm a high-profile person. I have to be protected like this because there are threats. And it's like, hey, man, guess what? You know, if you're a single mom in New York City and you live in a rough neighborhood, you have more threats than you can possibly imagine. And she has every right to arm herself and protect herself and her family. But someone like Zoran Mamdani will not do that. So it's interesting because, you know, he lives in this part of Uganda that is walled off. That's where, you know, the few billionaires where the intelligentsia, like his parents,
Starting point is 00:07:51 live while 40% of the country lives below the international poverty line. Like the poverty line in the United States is, you know, what, $30,000 a year? In Uganda, if you're making the price of lunch at Chipotle a day, you are considered living a above the international poverty line. A big swath of people in that country can't afford that and don't make that. But he has to be protected because he's a little fancy lad and he's got his multi-million dollar apartment in Chelsea.
Starting point is 00:08:27 And I'm sure his parents paid cash for that. He's not worried about his rent going up, but he wants to freeze everyone else's rents, which would be great. But the problem with socialism always is the unintended consequences. of the good intentions. So he's convinced a group of people
Starting point is 00:08:46 who've never made any money, never had to save any money, never had their wealth redistributed by the government, he's convinced them that his good intentions are practical and implementable. And neither of those things are true because those good intentions have horrible consequences. And unfortunately for this city,
Starting point is 00:09:09 it is a bell you cannot unring for years and years and years and years. And I don't see a 1993 Rudy Giuliani on the horizon to come save everything. I love the idea of the Kennedy Chipotle poverty line. That's a new, can I use that? Is that okay? You're giving that one to me? I love Chipotle. I'm a fan, but I need to make more than that a day in order to eat Chipotle. Fair enough. Fair enough. Yeah, it is always the case that social evil is done in the name of good and especially these days when people have become so narcissistic they have two predominant signals which is hey i'm here on social media and then i'm better than you my virtue is better
Starting point is 00:09:54 it's the ultimate disdain it's the ultimate expression of envy and disgust is i'm so much better because i care yeah and and that's what you know this this redistributive philosophy is based on it's jealousy And it's funny because Zoranamadani is a man of means. He has a lot of money. He has generational money. He has family money. He's gone on the record and he has said, like, it doesn't matter if I lose my job.
Starting point is 00:10:19 My family will take care of me. Well, most people in New York City are not in that position. And unfortunately, the people with the least mobility. And I'm not talking about people who are in the SNAP program. I'm talking about people who are making $150,000,000 a year. They don't have the kind of necessary economic mobility to stand this, but they're the ones who are going to be stuck with the majority of taxes. Yeah, as always.
Starting point is 00:10:51 The rich people are going to leave. Elizabeth Warren has said, well, I'm not worried about billionaires. You're leaving New York. It's like, let's think we don't live in New York, and you haven't watched people who are threatening to leave. and the people who are already gone who have moved to Florida. I can hear Jeffrey and he's on the phone
Starting point is 00:11:11 and it's distracting me and weird. Can you hear? We don't hear it. No, we don't hear it. Uh-oh. Who's he talking to? And make Jeffrey go away. I don't know, but he's a very huge conversation.
Starting point is 00:11:26 It's because Jeffrey. It's because Jeffrey's on his, the Zoom call still. But we don't hear him on. Yeah. Oh, good. That's great. I can mute your audio, please. I hear of Jeffrey Fullerbishop at the same time. So, it's, uh, it's a, it's a, it's a meditated.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Sorry. Sorry. Never had that happen before. Can you mute him, Caleb? Let, he is muted on the broadcast, yeah. But not on Kennedy's headset. Oh, no. I'll text, uh, I'm, please.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Um, so, let's switch over to Kamala Harris. Um, however we're supposed to pronounce her name. Come on. Another winner. what do you think of the new book? Are you going to read it? I'm dying to know what's in it. I already, so the book is meaningless unless she goes full scorched her. And it's interesting because she would never do that because she doesn't have any actual political instincts. And she's scared that she would squander whatever goodwill she has left. She doesn't have any money left.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Not from the campaign. I mean, she blew through that and, you know, with $20 million in debt when she was done. But the only thing she could do that would actually make her an interesting person again is if she dug up the bodies and told us where they were all buried and how horrible Dr. Jill is and how much of a vegetable Joe was and what the real deal that he made with her in order to endorse her was because, you know, her going, oh, I was so brave and it was so good and I just wish I had more time. No one wants to read that and it's not true because if she needed more time, that means that her poll numbers would have gone up in the three and a half month she was running. They didn't. They went down. They went in the wrong direction. The more people
Starting point is 00:13:10 found out about her as a presidential candidate, the less enthused they were about her presidency. And the thing about the Democrat Party, it's such a racist idea that if you have a minority person, they are going to appeal to minority voters because minority voters vote the way the Democrat Party tells them to. That's not true. People are going to vote for their family. People are going to vote for their kids. People are going to vote for opportunities. People are going to vote for a way to be able to get a loan to start a business.
Starting point is 00:13:43 You know, it comes down to really, really basic stuff. and she didn't have a plan for any of that. You know, she had words that were strung together and written for her every once in a while that almost seemed like something cohesive. I'm being incredibly generous with that description. But the truth is she didn't have a plan and it didn't matter what her immutable characteristics were. You know, it's like if I am a mother of color and your plan is going to make the world less safe and it's going to make groceries more expensive, I'm not going to vote for you.
Starting point is 00:14:16 I would hope not. But, you know, I actually, the last little interview when she went on to promote the book, I felt bad for her. She's one of the worst interview subject I've ever seen. Can people not talk to her and coach her up? I mean, it's really uncomfortable to watch her talk about her ear headphones and things like, and to delight and glee that she's telling you about what everyone knows what headset, she wears. We don't really care, Kamala. What is that? I can't figure out what that is. It's very interesting because, and you were the first person who kind of told me about this concept of, you know, there are people in the world who don't have a self. They don't have a sense of self. And I think she's one of these people. I don't think there's a rich center there. And, you know, that makes her uncoachable. Because, you know, for people, who have a good sense of who they are, you know, when they're extroverts and a little narcissistic, they actually make pretty good politicians because they can take their experiences and that gives
Starting point is 00:15:27 them a natural empathy because they can identify with you based on what they've been through, the struggles and the successes that they've had. It doesn't feel like she has any of that stuff to draw from. On top of that, like all the reporting is that she's very uncoachable. And she has, you know, people on her team and writers and consultants who try and nudge her in a certain direction. And it's not that she's a particularly awful person. It's just that she doesn't want to listen and she doesn't want to do the work. And I think that's why she had such a high exit rate when she was vice president because people would write like crazy and they would work like crazy. And then she would go out there and put her foot in her mouth. And people are like, why am I wasting my time?
Starting point is 00:16:14 I'm putting my reputation on the line because she doesn't have the ability to care about hers. Yeah, it would just be simply just please don't laugh. Just don't laugh. Let's go through an interview without you giggling without laughing. Let's do that, right? See how it goes. Just that would be a significant step forward. The only time she had her whole, all of her marbles in one sack was during the debate.
Starting point is 00:16:39 And, you know, I watched that and I thought to myself, okay, if she can come, comport herself like this throughout the rest of the campaign. And, you know, maybe she got really serious about it. Maybe she realized what it means to actually be this close to the presidency. And then she fell apart. So I'm like, okay, one of two things happened at that debate. One, she wasn't drinking. And even if she's a casual drink, you know, it's like, we all know the person who takes
Starting point is 00:17:04 one drink and they're like giggling and slurring, even though they're not really drunk, it just affects them so quickly. So maybe she's that kind of sipper, but it just doesn't sit well. or someone gave her debate prep. And maybe it wasn't, you know, the ABC anchor who gave it to her directly. Maybe it was a friend of a friend or an intern-to-intern transaction. And we've seen these things happen before. Donna Brazil did that for Hillary Clinton.
Starting point is 00:17:30 You know, she gave Hillary Clinton all of the questions. And, you know, magically Hillary Clinton was able to answer them in 2016. So I wouldn't put it past anyone, especially when you have a friend. friendly news organization that is squarely in your corner. How was it filling in for Kilmead? Oh, on the radio was really fun. He has a great team. Yeah, I bet. And, you know, it's like I've done Jimmy's show, Guy Benson's show, Kill Me,
Starting point is 00:18:00 and it's funny because they all have different producers. And it's funny because when you have hyper-competent hosts like Kill Mead, he needs almost nothing because he's been on the air for three hours. And so I have to remind them like, no, you pretend I'm five and send me links. Like, send me everything. And so his team is really great. Are you joining me and Kat and Cam and Susan and going to this vacation destination in January? Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:34 You're going with us? Yes. Oh, this is going to be fun. And Guy, this is going to be a gallery of rogues. This is going to be extraordinary. It was funny because Cam was worried that my lovely sexy teenage boyfriend and I would want to stay up late and gamble and that we might want to be on the part of the island where there was gambling. And I was like, no, we like to go to bed at 9.30. We'll see you there.
Starting point is 00:19:01 The old folk. I'm keeping $1.00 on this trip. I much prefer it. And then getting up early, swimming the ocean. running, drinking coffee as the sun rises like that. I'd much rather do that. Kennedy's living our life, Susan. This is fantastic.
Starting point is 00:19:19 We'll be there with you, I assure you. So let's review for people, if you don't mind, our history and your history and how we all ended up here. Because you and I stood in the street after Gutfeld a couple weeks ago, we're going, oh, what the hell? So odd that here we are still, you know, all these years later. So I met you in like 1992, probably? It was 1991.
Starting point is 00:19:46 So my old chiropractor in Oregon, where I was finishing high school, I got in a car accident. I was hit by my soccer coach, oddly enough, who was coming the other direction and she was drunk. So I jacked my neck and my chiropractor would give me tapes of K-Rock because she went to chiropractic school in California and she missed it. So her friends would record hours and hours of K-Rocer. So she would give them to me when she was done.
Starting point is 00:20:12 And I fell in love with the station. So when I got to- Let's give a little history on that. K-Rock came out of the blue in 1982. No one had ever heard of this station. This is L.A. Radio is the number one radio station in the country. And it was dominated by K-L-O-S and KM-E-T, maybe KNAC. And then this little upstart came out of nowhere and dominated
Starting point is 00:20:35 and continued to dominate until very recently. So that's what she was listening to. and you fell in love when you came to Los Angeles to work at K-Rock? So there were rock stations in the country. There were top 40 stations. There were no mainstream alternative stations. And this was the first alternative station
Starting point is 00:20:53 that was breaking bands. And it used to be that alternative radio would try and follow college, but it was the other way around with K-Rock because they were breaking so much stuff. And so when I got to California, I was taking a communications class, at Pasadena City College, and you could get 10% extra credit if you interned at a radio or TV
Starting point is 00:21:15 station. So I called K Rock, and they're like, we're hiring interns right now, come over next week for an interim. And I showed up and stopped. Was that when they were in Burbank? Was that when they were Burbank? Yeah, that was no, that was the adult building. Yeah, yeah. And so you came in and that's when we met. Yes. So you were doing Sunday night Loveline. It had not gone to five nights a week yet. So when I first moved to California, I would drive around in my 72 bug and listen to you and poor man on Loveline every Sunday night because I couldn't believe that this stuff was actually on the radio. And then when I finally got a job there, it took me months and months and months because I was an unpaid intern. It wasn't really a job until they would let me in the building and I could actually meet you.
Starting point is 00:22:03 And I'd met poor man, but they would not let me in on the weekends and they kept threatening to fire because I would show up after hours because I was so excited to meet these bands and to see the circus. So I obviously already dropped out at a community college. And then I used to go into Andy Schoen's office every day and tell him to put me on the air. And so finally after. And she became the general manager of MTV or music director, a general manager of MTV, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Yeah. So he was the program director. He let me do a Monday morning shift on K rock from 1 to 530. in the morning and then Lewis Larger ran my board and you know Andy listened to the air check and he was like it's really rough he's like but I see
Starting point is 00:22:49 something there I can't believe I'm going to do this but I'll let you do two nights a week on the overnights Wow but did we meet you because it was Sunday night to Monday morning is that how I met you? Yes so I would go in early before my shift so
Starting point is 00:23:05 Lovelin finished it midnight and I would show up early to hang out with you and I would tell you about my bad stomach and you sent me to a gastroenterologist who later became a woman and it was just a I met the red hot chili peppers and the beastie boys and it was amazing and and then and then we went to five nights a week and then we got around that time you you got a shift yes and then I so I started on air at K Rock and December of 91, and then I got hired the next August to be a VJ at MTV because Andy, the guy used to bug, got hired at MTV as a senior vice president of programming.
Starting point is 00:23:55 And so he got there and a lot of the air staff and the, I guess we call it the executive staff or the management staff at MTV came from KROC. Yes. So Carson Daly did Knights at K-Rock. Adam Carolla heard Jimmy Kimmel on K-Rock and called into the radio station and he was a boxing instructor at the time and offered to train Jimmy Kimmel in his bout against Michael the maintenance man. Like that's how Adam Carolla has a career. That's how Jimmy Kimmel, I don't know how he made this horrible leftward turn, but that's how Jimmy Kimmel and Adam Carolla met because Adam offered to train him in a boxing match for free.
Starting point is 00:24:41 And then Lewis Larson, who was... Go ahead. No, Louis Larchant was the music director at K. Rock. He then went to MTV to be a music executive, and he hosted 120 minutes. And to this day, I've never met a cooler person than Louis Lergett. Nice guy. He ran our board at Loveline, too, for a long time. He did.
Starting point is 00:25:04 So, yeah, a good, good dude. And then you came back to be on Loveline as Kennedy from MTV, and there was this guy in the studio with you, Howard Lapidus. That's right. This is so funny. Howard's wife, before they were married, she was the executive producer of Kevin and Bean. And I screwed up so badly. I was interning on Kevin and Bean.
Starting point is 00:25:36 And I screwed up so badly, she said, listen, like, this is, this morning show was not for you. You need a different job. She sent me to her boyfriend at the time, Howard, and she said, they need a receptionist, go apply to be their receptionist. So I met with Howard and Rick, their talent managers. I met with them in their office. And Howard, you know, was like, how much do you want to make a year? And I highballed him.
Starting point is 00:26:05 when I was like, 18,000 a year. And he was like, I'm going to do you here. He said, I'm not going to hire you because you would be a horrible receptionist. I can already tell. But I want you to go back to Andy Schoen and tell him that Howard Lapita said to put you on the air immediately. And I had already been in Andy's office a million times, but I told Andy that. And I'm not kidding you, a couple weeks later, you gave me my first air shift. Wow.
Starting point is 00:26:33 and Howard ended up managing you and he came in that night that you came back from New York as Kennedy from MTV and he grabbed me and he goes hey what do you want to do I'm like whoa who are you what's going on here what is happening and it's so funny I think I told you this the other night
Starting point is 00:26:51 he goes what do you want to be doing in 10 years and this thought bubble over my head was well certainly not this I don't know way I'll be doing all this radio like that's nonsense I will not be doing that What are you even asking me? Who are you?
Starting point is 00:27:05 And he kind of said to me, he goes, I can help you out a little bit. And he ended up managing me until his death a couple years ago, six years ago. Six years ago. And so, and I didn't know what I was doing. He would just send me out on stuff. And I was going, okay, sounds interesting. Let's try that.
Starting point is 00:27:20 There he is. There's Howard. Oh, Howard. But thank you for that, Kennedy. We were sort of, and then how, then you came back and went to UCLA, right? Yes. So I, after MTV, I moved to Seattle for a few years and found my voice doing talk radio. You know, it was not a big station.
Starting point is 00:27:39 It was an FM talk station. And then I moved to L.A. to do an internet radio show before Sirius XM. And unfortunately, it went out of, they told me that I signed a three-year deal and it went out of business after six months. So I had nothing to do. So I started going to college and ended up getting. a degree at UCLA. I got a philosophy degree and somehow ended up back in New York working for Fox News and I've been here since 2012.
Starting point is 00:28:11 And, you know, there's a lot happening right now. Sort of the tectonic plates are moving in television, particular, or entertainment generally. Yeah, Stern, I guess, is not going to re-up after December. Oh, I hadn't heard that. Colbert is out. Well, you've been up in your cabin. This thing's been happening, man. And the, it just, I just look at late night and that's just not a model that works.
Starting point is 00:28:40 It just doesn't, it's not a, there's no model there. No one wants to hear this stuff. And they spent a hundred million dollars a year to run these show. And they're just, there's not viewers and there's not ad revenue. So it can't survive. So what are your thoughts on what's coming up next with, is it just going to all, go this way, digital, or is it going to, is it this the end of television talk as we know? What do you kind of thing is going to have?
Starting point is 00:29:03 Fox, I mean, Gutfeld is still thriving. Yeah, so everyone at Fox that, you know, we've been talking about this. And every single host is like, I've only got 10 people working on my show. And, you know, we do a ton of content every week. They do digital stuff. They do man on the street. Stephen Colbert had 200 people working for him. And there was never a time for someone came in
Starting point is 00:29:31 and looked at cable news and looked at the broadcast networks and went, you know, maybe we should downsize a little bit because it really doesn't affect the content if you do it right. You know, and Gutfeld has maybe 12, maybe 15 people at most on his team. I remember when the Daily Show, when John Stewart won an Emmy. They had 80 writers on stage. Gutfeld has maybe four. You know, it's like, I think they've got four or five full-time writers, and they're just trouncing them. And, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:05 it's a slimmer model is, obviously, we love our slim models. We miss our anorexic runway girls. I'm kidding. But the idea that you can do a lot more and provide the content with less is the way of the future. And that's what anyone who is looking at a bottom line wants to look at. And, you know, it is the content creators who will continue to drive media. And Stephen Colbert, and a lot is forgiven if you're funny. Like, I don't always agree with John Stewart's politics, but I think he's really funny and I think it brings it. And I think he's really, he's skeptical in the right ways, he's goofy in the right ways. And Colbert hasn't been bringing good content.
Starting point is 00:30:50 And South Park, same thing. Funny as hell, but brutal to everybody. They just cut all directions. Oh, Susan's end. With Stern, okay, let's talk about Stern. People are saying that he just got to, he went woke and Sirius went broke. But he was getting paid. I know, you know, lots of money.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Ten years ago, $50 million a year. I don't know what he gets now. But how is, you know, how does that pencil in? It doesn't. That's the point. doesn't have a huge staff, but it's just serious. No, but there's no, I mean, his, his salary eats up everything else there. And so everyone else there makes like almost nothing.
Starting point is 00:31:32 So they're missing out on so much talent because they can't get big names who would otherwise, you know, they actually can sustain what it would take to, you know, pay them $15 million a year. They create content and have, a big enough audience and a big enough reach, but serious can't afford those people. They've got, you know, one person they've been paying, and
Starting point is 00:31:58 you know, there have been diminishing returns and it is sad that he's not the fun political skeptic that he used to be. And, you know, it's like he and Kimmel went in the same direction, and the pendulum just, they're fine. Like, I bet Howard's a billionaire. I don't
Starting point is 00:32:15 worry about him financially. He's been doing this a long... Of course. Of course. But the pin, the pendulum right now, is not swinging in their favor. And, you know, Seth Myers has talked about how his mental health will suffer if they cancel his show. And I'm like, hey, man, I did a talk show.
Starting point is 00:32:31 They canceled it. My life is arguably better than ever. Like, I'm creating content every single day. I'm on Fox News more than ever. I'm doing a five-day-a-week podcast. I'm writing for the daily mail. And, you know, it is a multimedia venture. And, yeah, I'm working my ass off,
Starting point is 00:32:48 but it's pretty enjoyable. So if you can't find something else to do, if you can't find enjoyment in the next thing because your ego is hung up on this idea of, you know, network sanctity, then you're doing it wrong. Yeah, I totally agree with you, Kennedy. And the interesting thing to me, I was talking to Adam about this, I think this morning, that they're missing that when the history is written, you know, the way things have moved along, these guys meaning unfortunately Howard and Jimmy and even Colbert are going to kind of look like
Starting point is 00:33:23 the fat cats from back when we were kids you know they're they're going to look like the establishment the elite that didn't kind of keep up it's it's sad when you look at it because they were also very talented yeah at one point they were all incredible like when Howard started in Los Angeles Tammy Heidi and I she was doing the overnights we used to while she was doing her show on K Rock, and I would come hang out with her in the middle of the night, we would listen to Howard Simulcast because he would start broadcasting at three in the morning, L.A. time.
Starting point is 00:33:58 And, you know, it's like, that was Tammy Schiff. I was 19 years old and just not getting any sleep because it was so good. And it was unlike anything any of us had ever heard before. And he did that for a long, long time. And even when he lost his mind politically, he was still doing incredible interviews. and just a phenomenal way of getting people to open up and feel safe
Starting point is 00:34:23 and have these interviews are so great. No one had ever heard before. Yep, I totally agree. And you and I both have been subjects of those interviews. And it really does feel like familiar, like a therapist office, where you just all of a sudden you're going, he's going to get you on the radio, you're just talking, which I loved. I absolutely love that.
Starting point is 00:34:43 So you mentioned something about slim, models or something or wave models. Let's talk about Sidney for a second. So what is your take on all the energy around Sydney? Well, if she's she can sustain her career on the backs of horny Gen Z boys and if that's what she's trying to she's doing a bang up job. And I know there are some really unattractive, unhumpable people with septum piercings,
Starting point is 00:35:16 who are trying to call her a Nazi propagandist. She is not, and she's not saying anything. She just kind of, you know, it's like when you're surfing and a wave is about to break over your head, you dive under the wave and get away from the wave energy and it crashes over the top of you and then you come out the other side. And I think that's what she's doing right now.
Starting point is 00:35:36 She's intriguing. Like there's something about her that people want to see more of. It's not just her boobs, but the boobs don't hurt at all. They're good. They're good. And so I want you to help me. I want you to help me create a joke here because I've got to go do, what's this? What do you put up there, Caleb? Oh, it's what's going to be in our history books for all future generations. It's a drawing of Trump yelling from the roof of the White House. Have you seen the Sydney-Sweeney ad? Oh my gosh. Wow. I want you to help me write a joke because I got to go into Gupfeld in about a week and 10 days or so. And I was, I think you were on this night and Tyrus said that his friends or people he know
Starting point is 00:36:20 would call him the black Nazi and I thought to myself oh that's interesting because I've always felt left out that I couldn't you know I've my black friends call each other my N word as a term of endearment and now I have an opportunity to do that with with with Tyrus I can call him my Nazi. Right? And so I think there's a joke in there somewhere. He would allow it because you know, it's like he's not, see, here's the thing. When you save that on Fox News and Greg was making this joke on the five a few weeks ago about people going, my Nazi and all, you know, it's like the cancel happy left was like, see, I told you, they love Nazis. And it's like, no, you guys were at the kill the Jews rallies at Columbia. We were the ones that were
Starting point is 00:37:12 saying that was wrong. And now all of a sudden, all the people who love the global intifada are mad that Sidney's sweetie has good genes because it means she's a Nazi. Like all of a sudden they hate Nazis when they were running all over these college campuses, spray painting Hitler was right. And it was a joke, a play on words, jeans and jeans. And she had said something about her jeans way back when he was on Euphoria. What's this post, Caleb?
Starting point is 00:37:40 Caleb wants to bring up this Donald Trump. post. Our president's post, a very long post about Sidney who is apparently a registered Republican, has the quote, hottest ad out there and blah, blah, blah, blah, and he ends it with his now famous, constant closing. Thank you for your attention to this matter. This again
Starting point is 00:37:56 is going in history books. It is presidential record. This is, this reminds me of Greg's segments. We don't deserve him. So, Kenny, let's wrap up with that. What do you make of his lengthy post? Does it help her with the Judd-Apital crowd? No.
Starting point is 00:38:12 doesn't, but she's become a much more intriguing person and even more authentic because it turns out she actually loves cars, she can shoot guns, and she has a real body. So, you know, it's like there are very few points in our cultural history where someone is able to move the needle so effectively. She is able to do that at this time. And if you can do that and make people really, really mad at the same time, I think that's a massive victory. Well, making people mad, I don't know if you get the same stuff I get, but I'm sure you must because these days, if you're not in the middle of some shitstorm or other, you don't really exist. So how are things on X these days, speaking of shitstorms?
Starting point is 00:38:56 And they're always finding something. And people are just, they're so dumb that I just, I rarely reply anymore. You know, every once in a while, there's this one guy who repost stuff that I say on Fox. And I'm like, yeah, no, I said that and I meant it. Thank you for the engagement because, you know, people, people are drooling mental invalids. It is a weird time. I mean, just, you know, I thank you for going down memory lane with me because it's so interesting as we look back on our, the arc of these many decades. We didn't anticipate this, and you and I have not changed.
Starting point is 00:39:33 And we made some refined certain ideas or developed out certain ideas, but the world has change in ways that I never anticipated and has been operating in ways that I didn't understand it was operating. And COVID blew apart so many of these, well, blew open the cover on so much of this and then Elon Musk and then Trump did the rest of it. I do hope we can sort of find our way back to the founding principles. Do you think we'll get there? Yes, I actually do because I don't think that, you know, the pendulum can swing this wildly for so long. And I do feel like we're going to find our own version of self-soothing here because the rest of it just becomes too exhausting and unsustainable.
Starting point is 00:40:20 That's why laughing at it is so much healthier. It's a much healthier reaction. But at some point, I feel like we will be able to moderate our own political moods. So we don't end up killing each other. Well, thank you for being here. Thank you for being a friend. Thank you for all the years. Thank you for Howard Lapidus,
Starting point is 00:40:42 and we'll see you in New York. Thank you, Drew. I can't wait to see your new show. I know you're going to get a new show. Wait a minute. What new show? I just feel it. I don't, I'm psychically calling out.
Starting point is 00:40:53 No. Should we promote something? Kennedy would. But I think Kennedy's going to get around show. Tell me, what's happening. Eventually. Oh, I don't know. I like what I'm hearing, Susan.
Starting point is 00:41:02 I'm putting it into the universe. All right. You've been killing it on Gutfeld and everywhere, so just keep going. I'm sure, I think that's, Susan is Miss Nielsen. Just, you know, she is Miss Nielsen. And when she says something's happening, it's happening. I know I love it. That's why I love that.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Yeah, I have, I have, I have Howard in my psyche. He's, he's sending you love. That's awesome. All right, Kenny, see you soon. Take care. You got it. All right. Coming up, we're going to switch gears,
Starting point is 00:41:34 and we're going to talk to a hypnotherapist, Jeffrey Rose. You can follow him. hypnotist in NYC. After the break? After the break, correct? Drew, do you think that the Sydney Sweeney joke might I have good genes had to do with the fact that she doesn't have fake boobs?
Starting point is 00:41:52 Correct. Okay. She doesn't have fake boobs. I can tell you as a clinician. Go go watch the euphoria sequence. That will tell you what's up. I can tell you as a clinician. Yeah. No. That's not what that. it is. That's just not what that is.
Starting point is 00:42:10 No, but that was part of the joke. She said it back then when she got a bunch of shit for doing that scene in Euphoria. She said, I can't help. It's just my genes. Just how I look, how I developed. And they made a joke out of it for these J-E-A-N-S genes.
Starting point is 00:42:26 And now the world has a problem with it. So, mockery, everybody. Kennedy is right. Mockery is the proper response. Be back with Jeffrey Rose right after this. I'm excited to bring you a new product, a new supplement, fatty. I take it. I make Susan take, take, my whole family takes it. This comes out of, believe it or not, dolphin research. The Navy maintains a fleet of dolphins, and a brilliant veterinarian recognized that these dolphins sometimes developed a
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Starting point is 00:46:29 She uses the tallow on her face. Yes, she does. And her skin is phenomenal. She did say that. And I want to remind her, but if you're not taking Faty 15 NR boost and Sinus Sink, I don't, I literally don't understand why. These are things that I, to the extent that we understand the science, I want to be able to promise you, I take it myself, that I promise you. It extends wellness and longevity. It's a very significant move for helping with longevity.
Starting point is 00:46:56 So I would urge you to do the fatty, the NR boost at minimum. And I think the center sink is a good idea as well. Jeffrey Rose, we're going to talk about a various thing, talk about sleep. We're going to talk about hypnosis in NYC on X and hypnosis in NYC. Whoops, advanced hypnosis in NYC.com. Also Instagram, advanced hypnosis center. I hope I got all that right. Jeffrey, thank you and welcome to the program.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Great to be with you today, Drew. so I've got a lot of kind of oblique questions about hypnosis generally I guess the question I would start with what don't people understand about hypnosis and hypnotherapies I think oftentimes they think that somehow I have some power to control something or control their behavior you can you cannot make anybody do something against their will you can help them to comply with what they do want like losing weight or quitting smoking or quit drinking or moderate their drinking or to have greater confidence, but you cannot make people do things against their will.
Starting point is 00:48:02 And, you know, you've been working with hypnosis for a long time. What is your, I've never seen a cohesive theory about, that I believed anyway, that what is hypnosis and what is going on? Is this just an interpersonal state that is reached, you know, and certain people are able to get there more easily than others, and in that state they're more open to persuasion? well they're in a meditative state when they're doing hypnosis so it's just simply a narrowness of attention and focus and absorption in one thing where you're not distracted so in those stages those states you're more suggestible and you could get a lot of great compliance if someone's highly suggestible we use the words synonymous you could elicit a lot of powerful you know post post phenomena post hypnotic phenomena like a positive hallucination or negative hallucination or amnesia or analgesia. I don't need someone to be highly suggestible to help them
Starting point is 00:49:00 make behavioral changes to boost their self-esteem, to boost their confidence, and to modify their behavior. And what is it that makes somebody more suggestible than others? Well, you know, actors and actors are considered to be highly suggestible. We use the word some amulist. That's about seven to ten percent of the general population, people that would actually walk in their sleep or talk in their sleep, they're highly suggestible. So when they're given a suggestion to do something, they do it in the most natural acting as possible, like a good actor-actress gets into that state, and they believe it, they feel that way.
Starting point is 00:49:35 You can't, in a stage show, which I don't do stage hypnosis, I do therapy, but in a stage show, you're going to see maybe 100 people starting in that audience, maybe 25 will volunteer and you'll get about six or seven that are highly suggestible and are compliant with the hypnotist suggestions and then it becomes very entertaining to see them feel like they're stuck to their chair or they're dancing like some great artist I want to bridge over into a topic and please if this is not
Starting point is 00:50:06 something you feel comfortable commenting on just let me know but I have wondered about the relationship between hypnosis and sort of propagandistic influences I feel like it's all the domain of persuasion, and it's all very similarly. I don't know a lot about it, so I've kind of watched it carefully. But I feel like, I don't know, I feel like people have been in a hypnotic state of some type for a while now. And I wonder if you could help me with that, that, those issues.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Absolutely. If you look at good advertising, we're being bombarded with 10,000 commercials a year for food products and processed foods. And that's hypnotizing the masses to do things we would never do intuitively. All that marketing, if it's successful, destroys instinct and intuition from people. And we become customers in this country. And maybe people are becoming overweight, developing chronic diseases. And unfortunately, we're still looking to the wisdom of the marketplace again. And you have the whole diet industry in terms like low cow and low carb and diet this, silly marketing messages, sucking people to be customers. And then we have a pharmaceutical industry eager to have even more customers. What I've always been saying to my clients, I can't help
Starting point is 00:51:23 change the environment that we're in, but are going to empower you to make better decisions and boost that self-care muscle. And although I've been saying that for the longest time, the truth is we have an environment on a macro level now with Secretary Kennedy at the helm of HHS where we're working on conquering chronic diseases. And we are incentivizing healthier living. So I can help my clients one-on-one to empower them to make changes to care enough about themselves to do all the right things but the environment now is getting better nice and on on average are women more hypnotizable than men i think women in my experience are a little more suggestible everyone could be hypnotized everyone could go into trans as long as we're awake you know as long as we're awake
Starting point is 00:52:10 but women tend to be a little more suggestible. I should say that two to thirds of my clients are women, and I think women are more inclined to seek help where men are more stoic and feel they don't need any help. And my sense is women are more hypnotizable. But I also wondered how the sort of next layer of what I was going to ask you is how ideologies become hypnotic. And I'm wondering if people are sort of hypnotized by the ideologies
Starting point is 00:52:38 they're taught on college campuses and they can't break out of it to sort of use that intellectual structure to try to measure against the reality of the world they just stay in these ideological bubbles. Isn't that sort of a hypnotic thing?
Starting point is 00:52:54 Absolutely. And unfortunately we're so suggestible. We like the group there's a group think and we like connecting to other people. I mean historically as hunter gathers we were living in clans of 250 people. We were all connected. We shared dining together and chanting together
Starting point is 00:53:10 and praying together and hunting together. We don't have that now. So we find other ways that we connect to other people and we're often misled by certain ideology, like, for example, socialism, as that's a secure all, you know, which is taxed rich and everything is going to be all great. Yeah, and then the other thing that has been on,
Starting point is 00:53:30 you're confirming my thoughts about these things. And the thing that then happens is mob, behaviors and scapegoating. So what is your sense of, you know, and I, you mentioned hunter-gatherer societies, and I think about, you know, men out hunting having to sort of be rhythmically together
Starting point is 00:53:50 and attuned to each other as they, you know, they may not even be aware that they're seeing each other through their peripheral vision and moving in a unison to try to go after an animal or something. I mean, we have those capacities as humans. And that leads us into being gratified
Starting point is 00:54:06 by mobs. And I feel like mobs have been on the loose lately and they've been scapegoating the mobs gather and scapegoat what's your sense of what that is no i see that we had the mobs during the COVID because the countermeasures where we had to have lockdowns and wearing masks and being compelled to get vaccines or you lose your freedoms and people went along with that it was like just a group think a mass formation hypnosis or psychosis you could call it and people felt we were doing something for the team but there was no evidence at that time, you know, and yet people that were, especially liberals, that are more inclined to comply with those suggestions, feeling that this is the way we're going to help. We care
Starting point is 00:54:44 enough about each other. No evidence whatsoever. Yeah. And so how, other than seeing Jeffrey Rose, how do we inoculate ourselves against some of that? Well, just be aware of it. I mean, I have two daughters that I let them watch TV commercials all the time, and we laugh at them. So I say, what's the message? What are they trying to get you to do right now? especially the pharmacy class, which is just silly and hopefully one day in some form, they're banned and we can't do that. So they're strong enough to understand that they're trying to break you down, making you feel you need a need, or there's a need for makeup, for example, or you need this particular pill or this particular clothing, some kind of outfit that's going to make you happy and boost your self-esteem.
Starting point is 00:55:29 And that's unfortunate. But as long as they're watching it and they're doing critical thinking, which we don't do often, they're going to be okay. And it feels like, I'm so fascinated by this conversation, that, and thank you for this, I appreciate it, indulging me. I feel like you're indulging me, but I'm really interested in your thoughts. And the other thing that is happening with commercials, television commercials in particular,
Starting point is 00:55:54 is they're in doubt or they're imbued with a lot of anthropology of the moment. And right now, in addition to being persuasive and all the things where you just mentioned. There's also a lot of other cultural information in them. And right now, I've noticed they're either Dana White voicing a truck commercial or it's a dad writing a letter to his daughter in a Volvo crying outside a lighthouse, not talking about the Volvo or a Jaguar commercial where the car has never offered us. What is all that?
Starting point is 00:56:30 And what's your, is that just bad persuasion or is it, you know, they can't, you know, they can't help themselves because they're so in the ideological bubble? What is your sense? No, that's effective because that's what we call anchoring. So there's an emotion attached to some products that involve, for example. You know, so you're feeling emotional, you're feeling tearful or joyful, whatever it is, and then you insert any product at that point, and you feel compelled to own that product. So the anchoring.
Starting point is 00:57:00 So the anchoring is now going in two different directions. It's going either like ultimate, you know, UFC or safe space. That's sort of the way the angering is going right now. And the same persuasion techniques are sort of evident there. Do you worry about this? Searchlight Pictures presents The Roses, only in theaters August 29th. From the director of Meet the Parents and the writer of Poor Things comes The Roses, starring Academy Award winner, Olivia Coleman.
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Starting point is 00:58:08 And in fact, we have to go into debt to buy more and more things to make ourselves happy. And that's unfortunate. So I don't know that I'm optimistic. I don't say that I'm pessimistic either. I think we're just going to keep doing the same thing right now. That's unfortunate. But we need to be doing critical thinking, analyze these things, and boost our self-esteem enough that it doesn't matter what we're thrown out. We don't need that.
Starting point is 00:58:27 That's not going to make us happy. I also feel like the politicians are starting to use some of these techniques. And I always thought that was something from the mid-20th century. I was shocked to see it come at us from our own government, and yet they seem to be leaning into it and using it effectively. Do you see that too? Oh, it's been that way all the time. Any good public speaker, any good politician is often doing things like speaking in a hypnotic pattern,
Starting point is 00:58:57 kind of like the way a priest would or a pastor would speak to the congregation which sucks them in to listening to everything they're saying of course they also dress the part too they're wearing a Donald Trump was wearing a blue suit with a white shirt of course and a red tie so we're seeing the American banner all the time which helps you makes you feel connected and loving our country and that's going to be helpful do you have I want to talk about sleep in just a second, but again, I'm indulging myself in all your knowledge. Do you have sort of simple
Starting point is 00:59:33 words of advice for public speaking? Because people do often worry about being effective public speaker and they're afraid of it. What is that drawing them in quality? Interesting to say that. I was having this conversation with my wife recently and she has to be the
Starting point is 00:59:49 president of a toast smash organization, which is a great way to foster public speaking and getting better and better, better. And Back to the reference of the early humans, when we're living in those clans, we were speaking and chanting and dancing together. Everyone felt comfortable.
Starting point is 01:00:06 We were connected. So now we have strangers, which are just people that we haven't met yet. We haven't become comfortable with them yet. And we need to feel like these are people that are more or less insecure. They want you to like them. Again, it's a self-esteem thing.
Starting point is 01:00:19 It's a self-confidence thing. To instill that with my clients. And then to imagine them feeling like their best public speaker that they admire. They admire, some of their modeling, for example. Yeah, it's, I think it's a, it's also, you know, 10,000 hours, whatever. It's getting of the reps in and feeling how to do that. So let's talk about sleep.
Starting point is 01:00:46 77% of high schoolers report sleep deprivation has been talked for a long time. Mahas talking about performing that in some way. I've been in conversations for it feels like two decades about changing the schedule in high school to accommodate the natural shifts in sleep that occur because of primarily the hormones flooding the system where they shift their sleep wake cycle a little later in the evening. Do you advocate for that?
Starting point is 01:01:13 And what are your thoughts? Big time advocating. Happen to be the legislative coordinator for the organization starts school later. It's a national organization, 160 chapters all over America. lobbying school boards and school districts and superintendents to move the start time later. And when that happens, oh my God, so much benefits.
Starting point is 01:01:32 For example, grades are going up. Less car accidents. Less suicide. Less ADHD. Less depression. Less anxiety. And this is thanks to the organization to start school later, which jumpstarted this whole thing. And states like California now, three years ago, your governor signed until law that no high school can start up before 8.30.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Yet the average start time in America is 8 a.m. And just 10 years ago, the American Academy of Sleep Medicine and American Medical Association and the CDC all recommended that no high school is start before 830. So it's not really a mandate. It's a recommendation, but it's a floor. You can start any time you want, but not before 8.30. Because these kids are getting seven hours sleep. It's like adults getting five and a half hours.
Starting point is 01:02:15 We can't function. You look at ADHD symptoms too. Yeah, I agree. I think sleep is so important. regenerative in terms of processing new learning and whatnot. There's so many handicaps we are handing these kids if we don't do the
Starting point is 01:02:31 given the proper sleep and not just encourage it, but teach them how to do that. Is there things that people can do to support that? Absolutely. Well, if they want to support it on a MAC level, they should get involved in a star-escalator chapter.
Starting point is 01:02:48 They should meet their legislatures. They should go to PTA meetings, get involved on the school board. A lot of people are actually running for school boards on this issue because these hospitals are starting too early. The big problem is that parents don't even recognize. They're underestimating the amount of sleep their children need. Half in a study, half of parents about 10 years ago in a study, I think in California, believed erroneously the seven and a half hour sleep is sufficient. That's like adults getting six hours a night. So they're mistaken. They don't get it.
Starting point is 01:03:19 So it's not going to trickle down to their students and their kids and teenagers to get nine hours sleep, which is impossible with early start times. Absolutely impossible. Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah, and the homework and whatnot. And I understand that some people are sort of weaving in the daylight saving time issue to try to, you know, keep things steady. So their sleep, everyone's sleep wake isn't disturbed right in the middle of a twice a year. and we should maintain, you know, standard time. Absolutely keeping standard.
Starting point is 01:03:52 It's a natural way. We've thrived on that for hundreds of thousands of years. For some reasons, certain people in this country think we should have permanent daylight savings, which is absurd. And it was, as I remember, I don't know what the exact history is on this, but I was reading somewhere that it had something to do with the charcoal manufacturers so people would have daylight later to have barbecues and summer or something. Again, I'm not surprised it would be about money. It's probably about money in the end. Well, actually, that is the case in Florida where the golf courses and the country clubs would like to be able to have more of their members golfing one hour later. But at what cost to just mix, miss the clock and change it for everybody who's used to a certain time and then
Starting point is 01:04:38 just going to change and make it earlier than make it later. We don't thrive that way. Weird. It's very strange. And then I think I read something that you were making note of Mary Lou Hennar and her autobiographical memory, her extraordinary autobiographical memory. And I met her many times. And when I first, I guess when I first interviewed her on television, I told her that I remember an appearance she had on David Letterman's sure. Actually, I think David Letterman was sitting in for Johnny Carson.
Starting point is 01:05:14 It was actually the Tonight Show. And I think she straightened me out on that, actually. She said, no, no, no, it wasn't the day of the Lamer Show, it was David Citt. And here's what I was wearing, and here's what my shoes looked like. And I was like, I kind of remember it like that. And she could tell me what day. The week that was and the exact date, it's an extraordinary thing. But it's another example of the extraordinary capacities of the human brain.
Starting point is 01:05:38 Absolutely. It's funny you mentioned her. I've only met her twice, but twice is enough to understand that. phenomena that she had because I met her for the first time in Miami, 2003 at the South Beach Food and Wine Festival. And she signed a book. I think I met her maybe 15 years later, introduced myself to her. She remembered exactly the time, the date, and everything about that, more than I can possibly imagine. It's phenomenal. Yeah. It is, and it has something to do with intelligence. People, you know, I don't think, I don't actually believe they figured out what this is.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Because when I read about it, they say it has something to do with the rehearsing process that people with these extraordinary autobiographical memories have an automatic rehearsing of everything that happens during the day. You can't rehearse that enough and keep it rehearsed and get it in the long-term memory because too much stuff is coming in as you go through the day. But I want to make another case in point or argument that it's intelligence. I was at her friend's house. I was meeting Judith Regan somewhere when I was writing that book. with her. And Mary Lou, Hannah was there with her husband and her kids. And as I was walking out, her kid was like four or five years old. And I heard him speaking to her, his mom. And I forget what he used said or what the language was. But it's, I literally stopped in my tracks. And I,
Starting point is 01:07:00 I, I, and I, and there's this little child speaking like that. And I said, Mary Lou, that, you know that is not normal. That is that. And she goes, yeah, we know. Like, we get it. But this is, this is an extraordinary intelligence in this kid. So there's some genetic element here too as well. And it is more of a good. And I think Mary Lou is probably smarter than she lets on in many other ways. But it just, this has been the novelty expression of that intellect. It's the autobiographical material.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Who should be getting hypnotic therapies? What are the utility? Where do they plug into the spectrum of mental health services? Well, if they're looking to lose weight, I can help them. They're looking to quit smoking, to quit vaping, to quit drinking, to quit using drugs. So they want some self-esteem improvement or public speaking confidence. I can help them. Fortunately now, because of this kind of medium, we're doing remote hypnotherapy.
Starting point is 01:07:57 So I'm working with people all over America and Australia and New Zealand and England. If my Spanish was better, I'd be working with Latin American countries, too. But I practice kind of my Spanish, but it's not good enough to help people that only speak Spanish. I understand. Yes, yes. Does it surprise you? See, when I thought, when I started Zoom, seeing Zoom therapies become popular, I thought, hmm, it's only going to go so far
Starting point is 01:08:23 because you kind of need attunement of two bodies in space. And I was largely wrong. So did you have skepticism too? Are you surprised how effective it is? COVID taught us that we could do things remotely. You know, the most important thing is that the person I'm helping knows I care, generally really care,
Starting point is 01:08:41 passion, and that I'm listening. That's important, too. We're looking at each other. Of course, I wanted to be well-rested so I could work the magic of hypnosis. If they're tired, they're not going to stay awake when we're doing hypnosis. So that's what I need, so we're requisite. Oftentimes, I'm doing first sessions in person, but certainly when I'm working with people for a second or third or fourth or fifth session, we're doing things remotely. And I'm very happy that people are pleased in getting results when I'm helping them in your state of California, for example. I'm going to,
Starting point is 01:09:13 do people go to your, where do they go if they want to make an appointment with you, by the way? One website is AHCenter.com, which stands for an advanced hypnosis center. If they're in New York, they could go into advanced hypnosis, NYC.com. They could find me on any YouTube podcast.
Starting point is 01:09:32 They could find me that way. My numbers are reachable on the websites as well. And also with social media, like Instagram and Twitter and Facebook, of course. And I want to push again on this issue because I'm still struggling with it. Is it not true, though, for hypnosis to be efficient? You're sort of, you said you listen, but you're listening with your whole body. Aren't you sort of breathing along with them and you sort of get into similar biological rhythms
Starting point is 01:10:00 with your clients? And how does that happen across Zoom? people are more suggestible when you're mirroring and matching their body language and their way they're breathing. Yeah. So if someone's speaking is slower, I'm going to adapt and speak slower. And then it becomes a hypnotic pattern that way. And I'm watching, just like I'm watching you right now and your audience is seeing me. You know, we're connected. And it helps. Once their eyes are closed, I don't really need to be watching them anymore. And it could just be a phone call doing hypnosis at that point. course. And I've also talked to hypnotists that use sort of various sort of sudden touch movements and
Starting point is 01:10:42 things like that. And what is happening with that? Well, you're making a postidog suggestion at some point while you're having your client in trance that when I touch you right here on your shoulder, you're going to go deep into trance just the way you were before. And then again, in that state, you're more suggestible and you could elicit all the goals of the client. The client has. got it well listen that is what I wanted to get into did I leave anything out that you'd like to address
Starting point is 01:11:11 I just think this is a great tool that we all should be utilizing to achieve our goals and unfortunately we're not looking at that and a good component of my sessions and my clients are coming from doctors and from psychotherapists
Starting point is 01:11:30 and psychologists and social workers so they get it that could help, in a sense, improve the benefits more rapidly than seeing the same patient every week or every two weeks for years. And people need to do their own research. My website has lots of great stories and research there. They can learn more about it right there. It begs an interesting question, which I'm sure it's not as effective as you managing somebody
Starting point is 01:11:58 in real time, but could tapes or videos or those sorts of things be useful? Yes. I mean, they're more generic. So it's not specific to that individual, but it's on the same issue. So what I do on my second sessions, I record those sessions. And then they'll listen to those over and over. I don't want them to depend on me. My objective and my business model, get the best results in the two sessions as possible. And then they refer me to their friends and family. And then those people refer me to their friends and family. They don't need to come over and over to see a therapist. I have a question. The real man has a question. Oh, who's that? On Rumble. Yeah, it's the same question I have. Well, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:12:39 Oh, go ahead. So that was my question. And someone in the comments also just asked this as well. I've actually, so I had a friend who was a professional hypnotherapist whenever I lived in Los Angeles. And I had two other people that were actually hired for events that were professionals trying to hypnotize me. And I really wanted to be hypnotized. And it has never ever done any, like it's never worked on me. So is there a percentage of people?
Starting point is 01:13:02 people that it just, even if you're willingly trying to do it, like it just won't affect them? Or what do you do in those cases of people like me where it's just, I want to, but it just, I can't get it. It doesn't happen. Are you referring to a stage show or one-on-one? It was a one-on-one. So one was a stage show and then he basically split me from the group and then only focused on everyone else whenever I wasn't doing anything. And then the other two were like one-on-one people in like a quiet office setting. And it just, they tried and he tried multiple different ways.
Starting point is 01:13:35 And I, one of those three, there were actually me and two friends were there. And the two friends, it just worked right away for them. And for me, I'm just, I'm like, I don't know what I should be doing because I don't want to make him look bad because it's not working on me and it's working on them. So I know something's happening. But I just, I could never understand why is it not, like, why can't I be hypnotized? You can be. If you're watching a movie, you could be hypnotized. okay that's willing suspension of disbelief you're focused to begin the movie you know you're very
Starting point is 01:14:07 conscious that's an awareness of the present subconscious mind that's not engaged yet that's feeling is an emotion the creativity and stored memories and subconscious patterns which are habits which I'm helping my clients to break bad habits but at the beginning movie you're very conscious you see an actor you know and you might analyze that actor and think about when you saw that actor in the past you might see some scenery in the background you're distracted but what happens is shortly you start becoming more and more involved, more delving in to that film, and your subconscious gets involved and your conscience starts to subside. And in that state, you're now more suggestible. I'm thinking perhaps you are analyzing the process too much instead of just going with it.
Starting point is 01:14:48 Because when you're watching a movie, you're not trying to get lost in that film. You're not like, oh, right, I'm going to get hypnotized. It just happens. That's very possible. I may have been thinking too much about it. I'm on the third try and I'm like, oh no this doesn't work on me and now I'm going to embarrass my poor friend here who's a professional when nothing happens and I'm probably thinking about that instead of focusing on it so maybe I'll let me try that again now that I'm older perhaps I've got to say I've seen I've seen many cases where people come out of hypnotic session and say something like yeah I was in my head the whole time I was just worried about it not working it didn't see any working on me and then
Starting point is 01:15:23 the hypnotist will will mention some post hypnotic suggestion they left behind and the patient who said he wasn't hypnotized will do the post-hypnotic suggestion. So you subjectly thinking you weren't hypnotized does not mean you weren't hypnotized. That's a really good point. Jeffrey? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:42 Absolutely. Right on, Dr. Jim. Yeah, because I've seen many, many cases of that. So, okay, well, Jeffrey, this has been great. I'm fascinated by your field. I get fascinated by stuff I don't know much about. And I feel like persuasion and hypnosis is an important and pertinent topic to our
Starting point is 01:15:59 present moment. I feel like our president sort of understands this and I feel like politicians understand it and I feel like people that are selling us stuff understand it. So I think we need to understand what they're assaulting us with. I think it's very important. And I appreciate you spending here some time and I suspect I'll ask you more questions in the future. We'll go to hypnotist in New York. Sorry, hypnotist in NYC on X. And then again, what was the A-C-A-H-C-C-R-H-C-C-com or through New York City, advanced hypnosis-N-YC-C-com. Great. Jeffrey, thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:16:37 Great being with you, Dr. Drew. Cheers. Take care. All right, coming up. Let's see, today is Wednesday, is it? Yes, today is Wednesday. And we have one more day this week, and next week will be from New York.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Elizabeth Potter and Eric Weiss tomorrow. Brandon Vine on the 12th, Alex Marlo and the 13th. that Kelly Victory will sit in from me on the 20th. We're only doing two shows next week because I have to go to Florida and then the following week we have to go to New York. How many shows are we doing in New York? You know?
Starting point is 01:17:06 I think we're doing two, but I think Kelly's going to host one of them. Okay. And Salty Cracker coming in on the fourth of my birthday, which I greatly appreciate it. There's been lots of man for Salty. Caleb, you can't have any Wi-Fi problems or any sound problems on that show.
Starting point is 01:17:22 With Kelly? No, with Salty Cracker. The last one was on, we had so many problems. I don't know which show I'm on now. I think I'm a total of probably 14 shows with no tech issues. Like, my keep updating this many days since issues. Other than my mic chord here, it causes a buzz once in a while. Yeah, but since we started checking in an hour in advance, we've had no problems.
Starting point is 01:17:48 And by the way, the- So crazy. The mic-court thing. But you haven't had bad weather yet. The problem of the mic cord, I think, is this thing. It's a cough button. And I think it's this. Maybe we can get another cable, a new cable to come off of it or something.
Starting point is 01:18:00 I don't know. It's fine. You're playing with it now. It's not doing anything. Oh, I can make it do stuff. Yeah, it's that one. It's that one, Jerry. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:09 The mic you just fix it. Yeah, I know. Fix my going to get off the show. All right, everybody. We appreciate you all being here. We will see you tomorrow at 2 o'clock. And again, do send us if you have people you like us to interview. Contact at doctor.com.
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