Ask Dr. Drew - Mom Sues Hospital For Homicide: Rebecca Charles’ Disabled Daughter Drugged To Death “During COVID” As Hospital Bills $650,000 – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 634

Episode Date: June 19, 2026

A New York mother is suing a hospital for the homicide of her disabled 28-year-old daughter, who was admitted with a mild cough and died 41 days later after being intubated, sedated, and given Remdesi...vir, Propofol, Precedex, and Fentanyl — despite never having a COVID-19 diagnosis. Rebecca Charles says her daughter Danielle arrived at Northwell Hospital in Glen Cove with normal vitals, normal oxygen, and no pneumonia, sepsis, or respiratory distress. Records the family later obtained showed she could have been monitored or sent home. Instead, she was admitted on August 27, 2021 and died on October 6, after the hospital billed roughly $650,000. Rebecca and Free Now Foundation’s Alix Mayer lay out the documents, the drug protocol, and the litigation now moving forward with a team of attorneys. Plus: Eric Bolling on the 14-point US-Iran framework, the Strait of Hormuz, election security, and the midterms; and the hosts of the Wise Nuts podcast on the Iran deal, Lebanon, voter ID, and California’s election fallout. Rebecca Charles is suing a New York hospital for homicide in the death of her disabled 28-year-old daughter, Danielle, who died over 41 days, killed allegedly by narcotics and other medications “during COVID” although she did not have a diagnosis of COVID-19 at the time. Learn more at https://freenowfoundation.org Alix Mayer, MBA, is Board Chair and President of Free Now Foundation, California’s leading medical freedom law non-profit. In 1996, while running a worldwide research group for Apple Inc., six vaccines for a vacation left her disabled and brain-damaged, ending her career. Now substantially recovered, she formerly served on the Children’s Health Defense board and RFK Jr.’s presidential campaign finance committee. She holds degrees from Duke (BA) and Northwestern (MBA). Follow at https://x.com/freenowusa Armond Garibyan and Arno Akhverdyan are the hosts of the WiseNuts Podcast, a channel for unfiltered conversations, trending topics, and exclusive interviews, bringing in-depth discussions on topics across culture, business, sports, fatherhood, and entertainment. Follow at https://x.com/wise_nuts 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/fatty15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/paleovalley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twc.health/drew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Executive Producers • Kaleb Nation - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • Susan Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/firstladyoflove⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Content Producer • Emily Barsh - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/emilytvproducer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:02 Oh, we got a lot to get to you today. We are going to listen to an extraordinary story that was brought to our attention by Sasha Latapova. If you don't know, Sasha, I suggest you follow her on X. Latapova. Rebecca Charles says her 28-year-old disabled daughter, Danielle, went to a hospital in New York. Minor symptoms, 41 days later, she passed away. It was given a crazy cocktail of medicine. She will tell us about that. and was billed for $650,000.
Starting point is 00:00:32 Fantastic. Rebecca's here today tell us what happened and why she's following a homicide lawsuit. She's joined by Alex Meyer, president of Medical Freedom Law, non-profit, Free Now Foundation. You can find out more about them at freetowfoundation.org.
Starting point is 00:00:47 And then we're going to be followed later in the show by the Wise Nuts podcast guys. They're coming in here. They've got a lot to say. They're downstairs now warming up the mics. I'm going to go to their podcast after we finish ours with them. But first, Eric Bowling comes back, host of The Edge, two-time New York Times bestselling author,
Starting point is 00:01:04 launched The Five at Fox News and Fast Money at CNBC. He is going to talk to us about the so-called 14 points in the Iran. Again, so-called all these things, I don't know what to make of them yet. The peace treaty, I guess we should call it, but Eric will spell it all out for us after this. Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre. The psychopaths start this. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction.
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Starting point is 00:02:45 Eric, at Eric Bowling, The Edge on YouTube. The book is The Swamp, Washington's murky pool of corruption and cronyism, and the earlier book was Wake Up America, The Nine Virtues that made our nation great. Eric, welcome. Welcome back. It's an honor to be back with you, Dr. Drew. Everything's great. I love doing the show. We appreciate it very much.
Starting point is 00:03:10 I've got to get over to yours. We have to make that happen. But let's talk about this. I sort of choked on the word treaty. I don't know if it's technically a treaty or an agreement or something to agree to agree. What has President Trump just signed? Well, whatever it is, listen, you understand this. I'm a huge fan of Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:03:29 I believe he saved the country from a slide. We were sliding into an abyss. We were sliding in high prices. We were sliding into a woke nightmare. We're going deeper and deeper into that abyss. I think Trump stopped that now. Now, I can be in favor and loving the fact that we have Donald Trump as our president and still hate this deal. It's a terrible deal, Doc.
Starting point is 00:03:49 There's so many points on it that we rely on Iran to trust Iran to come through on the things that they're promising. I'll give you a few examples. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States undertake to respect each other's sovereignty. But before you keep going on this, I heard Trump say, somebody asked him at, I'm probably in Versailles where he signed this thing. You know, how, what's, what's going to happen if they don't comply? And he said, quote, I'm going to bomb the hell out of him. That's different.
Starting point is 00:04:20 That's a new kind of, and I heard Rubio talking about a compel force, compelling compliance, which is, I don't know. Can they do, you think they can pull that off? I think he's going to have to, Doc. The problem is he could have done this 85 days. We've been at this 110 days. He could do this 80 days ago and have the same result. Like the giveaways are insane.
Starting point is 00:04:46 There's a $300 billion, $300 billion payoff to the Iranian people to rebuild their country. For what? We're lifting the sanctions on Iranian oil that were in place prior to this. For what? They're going to be made whole and then some. Israel's going to be very fearful of Iran going forward. The Middle East will be very fearful of Iran going forward. And America should be as well because we didn't eliminate their ability.
Starting point is 00:05:10 to build another nuclear weapon. They say we're going to trust them and that they're going to downscale their enriched uranium, but they've never been trustworthy in the past. I'm old enough to remember when Israel had to bomb Iranian facilities because they promised to give us access to their nuclear silos, their uranium, enriched uranium, and they never did. They locked out the international inspectors.
Starting point is 00:05:34 And so Israel said, you know what, we're just going to go. It's go time. So I'm trying to figure out where we win in this. people say, well, this straight of Hormuz is open. Well, it's open before we, look, it was a bad deal. Trump's a great negotiator. J.D. Vance today in the briefing room said, give Trump credit, give him time. I'm trying to find out where the upside is on this.
Starting point is 00:05:58 And I heard Trump say he's going to blame Vance if the thing doesn't work out, which is this sort of weirdly, weirdly comical. But I heard an analysis of the deal this morning that I thought was kind of, interesting. I want to get your thoughts of it. So first of all, part of the negotiations is setting things up optimally, given where we are, for the midterms. That's, you know, his ability to function after the midterms is a part of these negotiations. Are they not? So I spent a lot of time on Bannon's War Room in the morning through this whole, I was probably on there 80 or 90 days of the 110 days. And,
Starting point is 00:06:40 early on, I said, this is going to be a problem. If this goes on too long, meaning more than a couple more weeks, this is going to be a problem for our midterms. And people said, yes, but we're going to eradicate the Iranians' ability to deliver a nuclear weapon to us and our allies in the Middle East. Well, I'm not sure we did that. I don't think we did that, in fact. But as we get closer to the midterms, gasoline prices still right at $4 a gallon, has been as high as $4.50. I'm not sure it's going down any further into the midterms. Here's the problem. The IRGC knows that we are very, very susceptible to high gasoline prices. But in this deal, Dr. Drew, in the deal, Lebanon is carved out.
Starting point is 00:07:17 So what happens if Hezbollah attacks Israel and Israel retaliates into Lebanon, which they've been doing? Is the deal blown? Is the IRGC going to say, screw you, close the straight of Hormuz? Our gas goes back up into the midterms. We lose. We lose the House. We lose the Senate. And I don't, we have a snowball's chance of hell in retaining the White House.
Starting point is 00:07:36 and by the way gas at 450 sounds good to us Californians where we have a $2 surcharge at $6.50 here. Jesus Christ. But in any event. For the homeless. Yeah. Oh, don't worry. We take it's for the homelessness. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:53 It's the two bucks is for the homeless. You do several billion gallons a year in gas. So several billion dollars. And everything I see, they're still homeless. They're still homeless tents and urination. defecation in the streets. Gavin Newsom has just screwed that state up even more so than it was prior when he was promising to end homelessness when he was mayor of San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:08:18 I thought Jerry Brown would pretty much top everybody else's ability to screw this up. Boy, was I wrong. But, all right, so that's one issue is, you know, he kind of had to wrap it up for the midterms, right? He had to do these sort of, and he knows it. And the other thing is, now, this is the thing I found interesting. So the $300 billion is not taxpayer dollars. It is investment. So it's going to come from on this side of the world from private companies.
Starting point is 00:08:51 And allegedly, I'm hearing that the Saudis and other Middle East countries have pledged to make up a good portion, both with sovereign funds and again private funds. is $300 billion. Now, I'm going to bet that just saying that doesn't make you feel better. But when I was listening to this, I thought, where have I seen this strategy before? Oh, this is what China does. This is how China conquers everything. They go in with lots of money. They build the roads.
Starting point is 00:09:24 They build the infrastructure. And they set up. And they're just there. Do you think there's any thinking along those lines in negotiating something like this? you're right there's about 150 125 to 150 billion already pledged by middle eastern countries oil producing countries to rebuild iran so it's not u.s dollars there's also probably 30 to 50 billion dollars of uh assets that we hold Iranian assets that we hold that we're going to release so that's money that we could have kept because they're violating international
Starting point is 00:09:58 laws and treaties already. We could have kept it. And here's the thought. Why not give, do I not make this $300 billion available to us? We spent $40 or $50 billion in this war. But how about taking care of our, you want to talk about homeless? Veteran homelessness is off the charts. There's hundreds of, not tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of homeless veterans in this country. How about the cost of living increases for seniors? Doc, it's 2%. They give them a 2% bump. inflation was 9% under Biden. It's 5% now. There's so many better ways to raise money to help Americans
Starting point is 00:10:33 rather than finance a terrorist regime, a terrorist funding regime that has interest in wiping the United States and Israel and any of our allies, frankly, off the map. And again, the last little, I get what you're saying completely. The last little sort of punch on the positive side is maybe restoring, you know, sort of a weaker regime, weaker IRGC, restoring the populace to their being whole, maybe they'll have more ability to sort of rise up, but who knows? What else troubles you about the deal? I think you're going to
Starting point is 00:11:09 nailed it right there. For a long time, we've been saying, or I've been saying that we need the Iranian people. There's 91 million Iranian people. There's a couple million IRGC troop, warmongers. These people are killing their own citizens. They need the millions, the masses to rise up, even without weapons. Maybe you find a way, get the CIA in there, maybe help them. Until the unless the Iranian people actually demand change, you're either going to have fanatical mullahs running the country, which we've had for the better part of the last 47 years, or now the IRGC, the military wing of the fanatical mullahs is now running the show.
Starting point is 00:11:45 I just feel the world is less safe today than it was on February 28th. The whole thing scares the daylight out of me, to be honest with you. It certainly could be, and I've heard this take quite a bit, and then all kinds of concerns about Israel and Yahoo running amok and things. But I don't know. The people negotiating this deal are not dumb, even though the people of Trump derangement believe he's out of control and running a mock and dumb. Certainly Rubio is not dumb.
Starting point is 00:12:18 And God knows how many other negotiators are in there. I don't know. I'm just guessing they might. I know what's happening, though. You point out the JD Vance. He's on the press tour to talk about the deal because it's wildly unpopular within the base, wildly unpopular. So they send JD out there and they're protecting Marco Rubio,
Starting point is 00:12:38 which I agree with you. I think he never liked Rubio. I felt an establishment of Rhino type for a long time. And now I think he's learned. He's come around. And I think he should be the torchbearer going forward, 2028. Maga, America First, Republican, whatever you want to call it. I think he's the right guy.
Starting point is 00:12:55 And I think J.D. Vance has been, and again, we talked about this before, I think, during that big White House press correspondence dinner, where alleged assassination attempt on Donald Trump, if you looked at the aftermath, both in the Oval Office, that kind of black and white picture around the resolute desk, he was flanked by Rubio and Pete Hed Seth. J. J.D. Vance was way off to the side. And then in the briefing room later, when they did in prompt due briefing 30 minutes later, he was flanked by his cabinet and his people in the war department. And he named every single person and just didn't name Bands. So I think Trump miscalculated on the unpopularity of this war and this deal. And they're going to give it to J.D. Bance to hold the bag, the burning bag of, you know what? Well, he said it out loud, like it was yesterday.
Starting point is 00:13:45 And I think you're absolutely right. And that is also a typical Trump behavior, right? He doesn't He doesn't care If his deals scorched some people He'll still do the deals And I think I think you're right Vance being sort of marginalized
Starting point is 00:14:01 But It's I tell you what though He answered that In this Trumpian way Like it was a serious question from Ducey, the Fox reporter And Trump kind of laughed it off Ducey says well if it goes right you'll take credit
Starting point is 00:14:19 If it goes bad you'll blame Vance And he kind of laughed it off. He's like, yeah, I think I'll do that. So he was led into that answer, and everyone's going to pick it up as like Trump delivered it on his own calculation. But the truth is, watch what's happening. Vance is on this global tour, this media tour,
Starting point is 00:14:34 of a very unpopular war and then probably a more unpopular resolution to the war. So which one that they decided to do on their own to get into? Listen, I'm pro-Trump. I'm America First, original gangster MAGA. And I just don't like this deal. you're not alone but I personally just feel I don't know enough to have a good opinion
Starting point is 00:14:58 there's so many things that I don't know anything about and none of us can really know much about but on its surface I'm sympathetic to why people would not like it and certainly the Mark Levins and the Ben Shapiro's of the world are going to go nutty cuckoo over it they're going to hate it but I feel like just to go back to the vice president
Starting point is 00:15:16 I feel like his relationship with the president peaked during the meeting that they had with, I'm blank in the name of the Ukrainian president. Blansky. But he came in in. So there's interesting thought on that. But he came in that crazy outfit. Yeah. There's interesting thought on that.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Yeah. In fact, there's a real America's voice reporter who asked him why he's not wearing a suit in the Oval Office. And then Vance jumped in. And I've read a lot since then. I know a lot of those folks in the administration. Again, I was asked to be their Trump's Commerce Secretary by Donald Trump himself and Steve Bannon, the first term, not this term. So I know a lot of the infrastructure there.
Starting point is 00:15:54 And this makes a lot of sense. I believe Trump felt that Jady Vance pushed himself too much to the front with that Zelensky meeting. It was a high-profile meeting. Oh, that's interesting. He kind of almost cut Trump off maybe more than once, maybe twice. And I've heard since then, Vance has been getting kind of the cold shoulder, you know, around the east wing, the west wing, sorry.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Well, I mean, I mean, that's what I'm saying. It looks like that was about as good as their relationship got and it's been deteriorating since. If that's an intentional sort of scapegoating or if it's because of how he behaved in that room that day, you know, who knows? I don't think we'll ever know. So let's say the midterms don't go well. Are we going to be sitting through a bunch more impeachment trials again of this stuff? Is that coming our way? Yeah, immediately.
Starting point is 00:16:44 If you just lose the House, which most predictors are saying the Republicans will lose the House, they'll believe their number one, two, and three agenda items for two years. It'll never get confirmed unless you lose the Senate too. And right now, it's almost a toss-up. Most of the betting sites are calling the Senate a toss-up now. They have Democrats winning the House. So if you get both, you can, you know, clearly you're not going to get fully executed impeachment because you'd need a lot more things.
Starting point is 00:17:14 but you would get a technical impeachment. So when you impeach the president in the House, it has to be confirmed on the Senate. If the Senate confirms it, it's got to go to, I believe, the Supreme Court as well. So it just looks bad. You're not going to lose Donald Trump. He's going to be your president through 2028. That will almost be assured, guaranteed at this point. There'll be legal maneuvers.
Starting point is 00:17:35 But it's just, it just looks bad. And I don't care if it looks bad. We have a lot of important things happening here. We've got to get prices down in America. for middle class for for most people. And if the Capitol Hill is just shooting at each other to try and get rid of Trump or trying to protect Trump, they're not going to do the things that matter. You know what really matters?
Starting point is 00:17:56 And you know, I'm an energy guy. But when you think about it, there's one thing that we can do as a country, as a political force to remove all these issues, all the high price issues, all these Middle Eastern sheikhs when they get a thing for us, they, you know, they close straits. if we not only became energy independent, forget it, that's fine. We should become energy dominant. In other words, Saudi Arabia for about 40 or 50 years has been what's called the swing producer.
Starting point is 00:18:24 They produce so much oil that if they wanted prices higher, they'd pull back on their production. If they wanted them lower, they'd push it forward and make more money. We could do the same thing. We have more reserves. We have more technology. We have better oil companies. We have better transportation. We could be the global dominant power in energy.
Starting point is 00:18:42 and that takes us off a lot of people's radars for war, conflict, or just hate. It was all the green stuff that prevented that from getting even near that conversation. But be that as it may, I mean, we've not even had an energy policy in this country for the last 30 years. We should have policies around liquid natural gas. We should have policies around, remember we were burning off gas at one point. We had so much excess natural gas, which was just wasted. And then oil also. So I don't understand why that happens, but we need policy.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Yeah, we still be the swing producer of global oil. It's no longer in the Middle East because the world's getting a little more efficient with deliveries and transportation and drilling. But we are literally the world's largest reserves for hydrocarbons under our soil and under our seas. It's incredible the amount we could. And like I said, our energy companies are the gold standard of energy companies to pull that stuff out and we got transportation. We have more shipping available to this country and any country in the world. And the world will really be kind of beholden to, you'll be the second most powerful
Starting point is 00:19:52 person on the planet besides the president going forward. There'll be a secretary of energy. That's really where we could be and probably should be. That's interesting. Well, Eric, let's talk about your books real quick. Wake Up America, the nine virtues. Give me two. Brits, perseverance, motivation, all the things that we were born to do, all Americans are, which I believe the woke mob has kind of made not illegal, but certainly distasteful, so to speak. And that's what really the edge podcast is all about, Doc. We've still got to get you on. We talked about male perseverance.
Starting point is 00:20:29 It's okay to be male again, be strong, male personality. You don't have to hide from any. anymore. Toxic masculinity is, we actually lean into toxic masculinity. So if you're ready to come on and have some fun, we would love to get you on that podcast, The Edge. I'm in for sure. We need to support men. I mean, they've just been marginalized and they've been depressed and feeling worthless. That is ridiculous. And you know, Corolla was saying for less 20 years, he goes, one of these days is going to be, it's going to separate because you keep marginalizing this, man, they're going to, they're going to go towards the octagons. And he goes, and then it's going to be safe
Starting point is 00:21:07 spaces and octagons. I said, Adam, it's literally octagon's at the White House now. You've been predicted it. It's literally safe spaces and octagons. California full of safe spaces. Washington octagon. That was the epitome right there, Doc. That was the most symbolic moment evening, certainly of my covering politics right there,
Starting point is 00:21:27 where we had politics taking the reins from culture, where Trump just said, screw it. We're going to do octagons on the White House lawn. and like it or not we're doing, and I think they pulled it off magnificently. You may not like the one there's comments, but don't let that overshadow a great evening. Yeah. Rogan was saying it was the greatest night of UFC
Starting point is 00:21:49 to ever been to, which is quite, that's quite a statement. Eric, thank you for being here. Ericbowling.com. Where do you want them to find this show, The Edge? YouTube primarily? Just go to Eric bowling.com. You'll find, or Eric bowling across any of the platforms,
Starting point is 00:22:04 and I hope to see you again real soon, guys. enjoy your show. You're doing a great job. Show is really cool. Thank you. Talk to you soon. Sure. All right. Coming up, we are going to get to this story that is hair raising. Rebecca Charles' daughter, she called it drug to death.
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Starting point is 00:23:26 and budesinite, an inhaler that is good for airway reactivity and tightness, as well as reducing viral replication in the airways. Go to Dr.do.com slash TWC for 10% off your performance. purchase. Now if you want to see stars, you have to watch them dance, dive, or go to rehab with Dr. Drew. Dr. Pinsky told me that you are having some issues. He says I'm depressed. Are you? Rebecca Charles is suing in New York Hospital for homicide, a 20-year-old daughter who died over 41 days in the hospital, went in with limited symptoms. She, you can learn more about her case at free now foundation.org, where you can also hear about Alex Meyer. She's
Starting point is 00:24:16 board chair and president of Free Now Foundation. Leading the medical freedom law nonprofit, she's running worldwide research. And I'm going to hear more about what her plans are with the free. There's several ways to follow them. Free Now USA on X and Freenowfoundation.com. ladies, thank you and welcome. Thank you. Thank you so much. Of course. Now, Rebecca, I wonder if you would mind,
Starting point is 00:24:48 I'm sure you've told the story many times, but for my audience that perhaps hasn't heard this, I think, I don't remember if I first heard about your story through Sasha Latipova or saw her impassioned discussion about it. What happened? Well, first, thank you so much for having me on, Dr. Drew. I'm here to talk about the medical system and what had done to my daughter. As a young woman, a healthy young woman that damaged her birth by delaying her birth.
Starting point is 00:25:20 And the next time she went into the hospital, ended her life in 41 days. I took Danielle in for a cough. You know, she was sick the week before. And she was healthy. We treated her at home. The fever left. And Danielle takes a lot of vitamins. she's on everything you could think about her, I was to good care of her. And I was concerned for the call because this cough, I never heard my daughter cough like that.
Starting point is 00:25:47 And my husband and I, it was, we decided, let's call the neighbor who's a doctor and see what he says. So he says, I'll let you bring her into the hospital. I'll call you in so you have special privileges so I could stay with my daughter. Right away in the emergency room,
Starting point is 00:26:05 they said she have, COVID pneumonia. Before they even admitted my daughter, which had normal vitals, a medical report, which showed that all the report showed she was breeding normally. She was talking, eating, the chest was clear, the sound of her breath was clear, normal white blood count, a little bit of high blood pressure because she's very anxious about getting stick with a needle. And they started on REMDysivir. I didn't know about REMDysivir. They never told me. I'm going to start your daughter on REMDSAVIR.
Starting point is 00:26:40 I later found out she had 10 wrongs around the severe. And it's a tragic story because a medical hospital in America, we are taught that is a place to go for healing. But now I realize the industrial complex is there to profit off your life. So while I was there in the hospital, they said only for two to three days, she'll be there. So I was there three days later, I said, what are they doing? When are we going home? My daughter wanted to go home and they have a hooked
Starting point is 00:27:09 up to an ivy and telling me it's just to treat her for pneumonia. But in the medical records, they admitted my daughter as having sepsis and hypoxia. And she had normal white blood clunk. So how could you admit her falsely like that? And I only found this out later. Excuse me later on. It's a little hard to talk about it. So while we were there, the protein, they call him the ventilator maestro, Dr. Ramanu. He's known as the ventilator maestro in the hospital. They took her in. They said, we need to bring in for observation.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Because, you know, Mommy, this window here in the door is just very small. But if she goes into the ICU, we'll have all the windows. You know, we could see her. And I'm thinking, okay, you know, it's good. You know, all right, I agree to it. Right away, they took off her pajamas. And I saw more machines came in, and they said she has used a bedpan. My daughter never used a bedpan before in her life.
Starting point is 00:28:07 And Dr. Drew, if you have pneumonia, you would sit up. They would give you breathing exercises. Daniel was told she cannot get off the bed. She'd have to lay down flat. And the next day... You know what happened? I know exactly what this was is they were busy treating the numbers. This is how people ended up on ventilators all the time.
Starting point is 00:28:31 They were comfortably, they called them the habit. be hypoxic. They were there with low concentration of oxygen, low concentration of oxygen, their blood, and perfectly comfortable. And no one was given any other treatment than, oh, get them
Starting point is 00:28:46 on a ventilator right away. And that is where they harmed a lot of people. So I'm guessing, have you examined the records? Yes. I had the records examined by several medical experts. A nurse of
Starting point is 00:29:01 42 years when she read the record, she was crying, she had nightmares. And when she told me what she saw, I was like, I was beside myself because I'm like, how in the world? Daniel should never have been admitted. Her lungs were clear. She was breeding, talking, walking. Just prepare yourself.
Starting point is 00:29:19 It's the hypoxia they're going to focus on because COVID did cause hypoxia. But that's treating numbers, not the patient, right? If you don't mind, I want to ask Alex, if I'm on to anything here, if that's what you're sort of seeing in the records. She did not enter the hospital with hypoxia, actually. So this is why this case is such a big deal. This is not a medical misconduct or medical malpractice lawsuit. This is a willful misconduct lawsuit.
Starting point is 00:29:47 And they basically saw Danielle. They'd received $1.2 billion to Northwell Hospital just in 2020 to enact all the protocols that were required for lockdowns, the ventilation, the remdesivir, and all the rest of it, and the COVID diagnosis. and they had to meet their numbers to keep their PEP Act funds. And that was $1.2 billion. So what they did when they saw Danielle come in there with her mother Rebecca, they saw her as an ATM.
Starting point is 00:30:13 They didn't see a patient. And this has to stop. I'm looking right now at her medication list that Caleb sent me. They had her completely zonked on Propofal for one thing, which, again, why? I mean, you know, and this went on for quite a while. was she on a ventilator for? 32 days.
Starting point is 00:30:38 32 days? Yeah, I wonder what that does to your lungs. Yeah, and because she kept taking out the IV lines, she kept taking off the ventilator mask. They kept sedating her more. Propofal is what killed Michael Jackson. Presidex is a paralytic to paralyze her. At one point, they secured her to the bed,
Starting point is 00:30:57 so she couldn't take those things off of her. She wanted to be out of there. She didn't want to be there. That's rough, man. she died with more than five times as much fentanyl in her system as George Floyd yeah when I look at some of the management of some of these cases was this early in the pandemic no this was 2021 Daniel is very strong and very healthy she rarely gets sick so she did not need to be admitted to the hospital gosh it's weird they were using
Starting point is 00:31:34 versed and fentanyl I mean just Verset and fentanyl itself together would make you not breathe, right? And that makes you dependent on the ventilator. And then propofol on top of that, which like wildly, what they were doing. Sorry, they used the drugs to get their numbers that they needed to cause the hypoxia, to cause the organ failure. And then they blamed it on COVID when it was the drugs they were giving her.
Starting point is 00:32:09 I understand what you're saying. But there's a number of doctors involved here. I'm seeing some of their participation. And not everyone, you know, somebody should have raised their hand. And what's going on here? But they were so, but you remember, there was so much group thing going on at the time. They were just, and doctors were not allowed to even make decisions on their own. They were just these protocols.
Starting point is 00:32:32 They were just required to follow the protocols. Rebecca, did they allow you to come in to visit your daughter? Okay, so I was with Danielle for the first five days And I said after we went into the ICU The next day he came in and started talking about the ventilator And I said she's not going on the ventilator So I asked the next day Could I just go in and shower?
Starting point is 00:32:54 I'm eight minutes away And as soon as I left to go home When they told me I could come back That's when I got the phone call I can't come back into the hospital And from there it was no contact with my daughter There was no iPad To use
Starting point is 00:33:07 My daughter. Alex, what do we do about that? That's a crazy. That is crazy to me. But go ahead. Well, they were separating people in 2021 and 2020 in the hospitals, but Danielle was a special case. She was special needs. And according to the ADA, she needed a guardian with her at all times to make decisions.
Starting point is 00:33:26 She was not capable of making decisions for her in her everyday life. And so barring Rebecca from the hospital and not even letting her have a companion there was another part of this case that is completely illegal. Gosh, it seems to be the American with Disabilities Act maybe where you find more traction than anywhere else with this whole thing because people are very sympathetic usually to that. Although, God knows, with the way people defend COVID. Well, let's switch gears for a little bit. And Alex, you have a substack also, right? I do. Alexmyer.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Substack.com. And it's Alex's L-A-L-L-I-X, M-A-Y-E. are. Talk to me about medical freedom. I'm guessing your substack, you're addressing that. And Rebecca, I apologize. I'm stepping off your daughter's case for a second. But I'm grave.
Starting point is 00:34:20 I sort of see there's a lot of bad things going on here, right? Bad judgment, bad. Doctors falling in line and not using their judgment. And to me, medical freedom is a big theme. in a situation like this. What do you see as your task as someone advocating for medical freedom and what can be done? Well, it's a big topic. And as everybody knows, our medical freedom and our freedoms were taken away in 2020 and 2021 because of COVID and the lockdown measures.
Starting point is 00:34:55 And that was the first time people really started to understand what the concept of medical freedom was. And part of medical freedom is also getting the ability to be informed and the ability to consent. yes or no. So I don't even like the term informed consent, even though that's the term that's normally used. I want to call it informed choice because once you're informed, you should have a choice of what you want to do after you know the risks and benefits of a treatment. And that especially includes vaccines because once you get vaccine injured like I was in the 1990s, you can't undo it. I've spent 30 years trying to recover from the disability that the vaccines gave me in the mid-1990s when I was running a worldwide group for Apple. My MBA.
Starting point is 00:35:37 A, became worthless at the time I lost my job to a medical leave that I never returned from. It is, it's a travesty. Tell me what happened. That's another piece story I wanted to get into. So it was a brain injury of some type? Yeah, I got six vaccines to go on a vacation with my family. It was while I was working at Apple in my 20s, I had just been promoted to running a worldwide research group.
Starting point is 00:36:03 And when I was in Bali, a couple weeks later, my legs turned into noodles. I collapsed, and then I came back from that trip, and I thought I had jet lag. And the jet lag, in quotes, lasted weeks and then months. And finally, I was like, I don't think this is jet lag. And then, you know, I kept sleeping 16 hours a day, but still trying to go in and do my job. I love my job. I'm a workaholic. And I absolutely loved working at Apple.
Starting point is 00:36:26 But I was eking out maybe two, four hours a day and, you know, barely getting by with that. But six to seven months after those vaccines, that was about January of, 1997. This is literally 30 years ago, guys. I picked up the Wall Street Journal, which is what, you know, the MBA likes to do. We like to read the Wall Street Journal every day, and I did back then, and I didn't understand what I was reading. I picked another article. I didn't understand that one. And I thought, oh, there's two bad authors in the Wall Street Journal today. And, you know, I'm a researcher. So by the time I got to the third one, the pattern recognition set in. And I thought, oh, my gosh, I've lost my ability to think and remember, I have to have a medical
Starting point is 00:37:05 leave of absence now at the urging of my doctor and family. And so I finally took that medical leave of absence. And it took me a long time to recover. And I'm still not fully recovered. I struggle with the vaccine injury every day, 30 years later. Interesting. I wish we had more research on exactly what that was. I have seen some proteonomic research that suggests it's just something I came upon. And it helped me with my long COVID. That the temporal lobe is where a lot of this injury occurs and working on music and language might help clear some of that stuff or improve it. You know, you found anything like that? That's so interesting. You said that I live near Stanford University and I ended up taking
Starting point is 00:37:51 almost a dozen courses in writing and started a blog way back in 2005. And that's how I had my brain recovery. It wasn't the speech therapy lady who came over to my house and gave me this little plastic thing where I was supposed to move cars around to improve my brain. It was actually the writing. Yeah. There's something about language and music that viral-related in which the vaccines are clearly a viral-related injuries, it helps. I've not seen literature on this.
Starting point is 00:38:21 I've just had some experiences with it. Well, what do you want people to know and do? What should, we have a lot of sort of concern viewers about maintaining their own freedom. That's why I'm involved with the TWC, the wellness company, because they're big medical freedom organization. And I really feel people should have access to what they want, safely, obviously. But, you know, we found out during COVID that they could shut everything down. And all of a sudden, your access to health care is just is either cut off or it's adulterated in some way.
Starting point is 00:38:55 So what should people be doing? I think everybody needs to be aware that there are issues with vaccine safety and hospital safety right now. And in both instances, you really need to do your research. before you go into a hospital, make sure that you have medical power of attorney assigned to somebody you trust to help make medical decisions for you if you can't make them yourself
Starting point is 00:39:15 and always have somebody with you, whether you're going to a medical appointment for anything, including vaccines, but especially if you're going to be going to the hospital. You go to the urgent care, you go to the emergency room. You have someone with you and they do not leave your side
Starting point is 00:39:29 because it's less likely that something like what happened to Danielle could happen to you if you have a companion. I will tell you what, guys, if they had not eviscerated primary care, internal medicine, family practice, general practice, that kind of thing. If they had not eviscerated those disciplines, those would be the ombudsman. Those would be the professionals helping you, watching you, navigating it with you. But they're gone. They've just destroyed that part of medicine.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Rebecca, what do you want people to know? Well, I want people to know that what's happened to my daughter, it happened to you. Because she was innocent. She was a functional girl. She was a volunteer at Sunrise Assisted Living. She was treated worse than a criminal. I mean, the isolated her and drug her. I don't know any criminal on debt rule was ever treated the way my daughter was.
Starting point is 00:40:23 I want them to support my case, True Free Now Foundation. It's very important. It's one of the most important cases. hoping that it will pierce the prep act because most cases get thrown out a court because of the prep act but my daughter deserved justice i fought for her all her life and and i cannot let this go and dr drew this is the really yeah this is the really important part of this case because of the prep act protections these doctors at this hospital could do all of this with seeming impunity except in one instance willful misconduct and this is a willful misconduct and this is a willful misconduct
Starting point is 00:41:01 case. And this is not only going to get justice for Danielle, this is going to mean that she becomes a martyr because her life is going to mean that we make hospitals safer going forward because people don't know this, but you get diagnosed with any condition that's listed in the PEP Act right now, COVID, Ebola, whatever it is, haunt a virus. And you go in the hospital, they can do this to you under the PEP Act with seeming impunity. So we're going to change that through this lawsuit for everyone. I hope you have great success. I would argue that's what pissed me off about the university and colleges that forced vaccines on young males who had no risk from COVID and got myocarditis and paracarditis and whatnot. They were immune because of PrEP Act too.
Starting point is 00:41:43 So that's where I've been very, very concerned about the qualified immunity essentially that PrEP brings. And it's just it doesn't make sense. It's got to go. All right. Thank you so much, guys. Tell me one more time where you want people to go, Alex. Go to free nowfoundation.org and make a donation to this case to make Danielle's life worth it, to make her a martyr instead of a victim, and to make hospitals safer for everyone.
Starting point is 00:42:11 And please write the word Danielle or Rebecca in memory of. And Rebecca, I'm so sorry that you had to go through all this, but hopefully this will not have happened in vain. Totally, in vain. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much, ladies. I will want to hear updates as they develop. All right, we are going to switch gears.
Starting point is 00:42:34 We are going to speak to a couple of gentlemen who have a very popular podcast that I'm going to participate in. When we finish here, Susan's lurking over me. Why, what's going on? Okay, we got time. This is a break coming. She's like literally like perched, like going to drop these guys in.
Starting point is 00:42:52 They're in the studio with me. let me give a little proper preamble to the boys. It's Armin Garibian and Arno Akverdian. Armenian. They are host of Wisnutt podcast. Unfiltered, unfiltered conversations. They're bright guys. They're interesting guys.
Starting point is 00:43:14 And I look forward to getting a few minutes with them here. They have thoughts about what's going on as well in national security and other things. We'll get with them right after this. Hey Dr. Drew here and we are interested in health and longevity and the longevity nutrient is Fatty 15 discovered amazingly by a veterinarian who was responsible for the Navy's fleet of dolphins turns out dolphins are healthier when they have adequate amounts of pentadocinoic acid which is C15. It also for us it helps humans as well reduces the oxidative stress on our cell membranes which is part of
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Starting point is 00:44:35 I want to take a quick call here. Eric. Janice, go ahead. Christine, you're an ER nurse. Dr. Drew, what happens if you inject something oil based directly into a vein? Did the drug company lie to the government, or did the government just choose to lie to the public? New and here is very good. We're able to express ourselves.
Starting point is 00:44:55 I don't see the profession doing anything to really build trust beside you. I'm happy to be on here. Thank you for having me. You and I see the world the same way. What is it like for you to be the most chiseled and best-looking man in media? Giving us the information we need. Thank you for the truth. My pleasure.
Starting point is 00:45:16 We are going to take your calls at 8333-D-R-D-R-A-W. High form as well. Gentlemen, introduce yourselves. Oh, wait. Oh, thank you. That would be good. You put the mics on. Just some technical difficulties, right?
Starting point is 00:45:32 Technical difficulties. I think you're on now. Armand, Caribbean, as Dr.JRoman-Garivian, as Dr. You mentioned earlier, even though social media knows me as Armand Hopod, which Obot in Armenian means uncle. So everybody knows me as Uncle Armand. Oh, interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Because everyone has an Uncle Armand, right? If you're Armenian. Well, the name came about because years ago, you know, any time people had issues, they would come to me and kind of, oh, I need this, can you direct me this, guidance on that. So I said, you know, all me hope on and I'll help you with anything you want. Did that start in jail or somewhere?
Starting point is 00:46:07 You know what I'm talking about? No, no, no. Fortunately, I've never done time. But, yeah, start off at my office in Burbank. So that's. What do you run at your office? Yeah, I was going to say, let's talk about you do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Well, you want to, maybe the disclaimer would be a legitimate, fully legal hospice agency. Right. running a hospice agency. Now you are getting discriminated against, right? Yeah, it seems so, yeah. Do you have insight into what went amok, why things went bad? I mean, look, if you look at, for example, there's a couple of states around the country who are what's called a certificate of need state, for example, Florida, right?
Starting point is 00:46:49 Yeah. In order for you to get a license for hospice, you have to show the department of licensing that there's a need, there's a demand. You can't just go and open 15 hospices like they do here or they did here. Whereas California, for instance, just in LA we have close to 2,000 hospice agencies. So as usual, the laws are screwed up. Yeah, the laws are confused. The laws in the state are such a mess.
Starting point is 00:47:16 It's why we have homelessness. That's why we're doing to take care of mental illness. Arno. I mean, introduce yourself. You've got to say your piece here. Arnaudov Faradian. I dabble in real estate. And legally, legally, legal.
Starting point is 00:47:30 But it's crazy when import exports. With China. But it's crazy when the whole hospice fraud took place and everybody was scrambling, trying to figure out, all right, who's legit, who's not. Unfortunately, our industry got hit by it as well because we were helping individuals lease out purchase spaces for hospices. You've got the names wrong. Yeah, I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Armand is the other guy, the hat. It's the other way around. The skinny one is Armagh. Yeah, yeah. The tall one is Arnault. But yeah, I mean, that's what was going on. And I had a bunch of clientele reach out to me. And they were like, hey, listen, that space that we leased out, I got to dump it now.
Starting point is 00:48:10 I'm like, why you got to dump it? Well, you know, business isn't doing well. Right. And we talk about this all the time on the podcast where it's unfortunate that people see the dollar signs and they take advantage of the system. And we always tell our listeners and even politicians that we know that when are we going to remove the cancer from this state. Because unfortunately, people are taking advantage of the system and the system is broken. And nobody wants to audit anything to figure out, all right, where is this leading to and when are we going to end this corruption in this state? I mean, the highest level cancer, the most dangerous cancer is the one in the assemblies in Sacramento.
Starting point is 00:48:54 the Congress, right? No, you think it's... Well, those are the people that continue to get voted in. But they're the ones who create these horrible laws. But it trickles all the way down to our county, to our city, right? Well, we've been seeing a lot of the... Again, I'm not going to speculate anything as far as calling it voter fraud, because at the end of the day...
Starting point is 00:49:14 It's uncanny. Is it not uncanny that they keep voting the same stuff over and over? It is. It depends to happen during every election cycle is. You've got the other side. winning and then all of a sudden right after the election ends the next week or two while they're counting the votes all the mailing ballots somehow conveniently come in for the incumbent. I don't know how that works out.
Starting point is 00:49:39 I was literally shocked when I saw Nithia Rahman take over Spencer Pratt. It did not. It was almost like it's surreal. People throw that a term around, but it just didn't seem like making sense. None of it makes sense anymore. Even happening on a smaller scale like Glendale, right? The school board, same issue. I mean, Ingrid won by one vote.
Starting point is 00:50:02 How convenient is that? One vote. Well, is winning by one vote. It's winning, yeah. I just don't understand how the fourth largest economy in the world takes one month to count votes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because we don't have AI in California. Oh, is that what it is?
Starting point is 00:50:15 Yeah. I figured. It's been disabled here. Fourth largest economy in the world, right? Yeah, okay. Just wanted to clarify. It's dangerous. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:24 going to take over the world. And Newsom is at the forefront of making sure they don't. And people are not in California. I may not be aware that he and his wife are being investigated now by the DOJ. Of course, he sees that as a politically motivated thing. I don't know if it was or was not, but if he was breaking the law, what difference to make. Nothing will change. Nothing will change.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Just like the fires that took place last year where you had a mayor in Ghana while the entire city is practically burning down. And they said, oh, we're going to investigate her. Nothing happened. Just like Newsom, nothing will happen. I had, my brother and I, we owned two boarding cares in Altadina burned the ground last year. Oh, really? Which ones were up there? Because I used to go to all those places.
Starting point is 00:51:09 The one we had was called Ethan Canyon Villas. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It was, we named it after Ethan Canyon. Yeah. But, yeah, last year, January, we're just down to ashes now. But there's been less complaints about what happened here. So people that don't know, they're from Glendale.
Starting point is 00:51:24 next city over is Pasadena, where we are right now. Al-Tadena, Arcadia, this is all next door to us, and that's where the big fires were. And there have been less complaining about those fires because people, the infrastructure worked. It was just an act of nature that got out of control. I mean, people understand that things can go bad. But things kind of went through the way they were supposed to. Did they not?
Starting point is 00:51:49 Yes, but then there's, but what caused it though? Well, that's the SCE thing. Yeah, it's the whole SCE thing. But that's, again, people are looking into that. They're checking it out. Right. Yeah, but at the end of the day, I think the issue with Altadina was there was a lot of older generation homeowners who did not have proper proper coverage. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:52:10 They have a 2,000 square feet home. They purchased for 60,000 back in the 60s. Or maybe less than that. Yeah, right? Maybe 15,000. And it's been paid off. So there's no requirement to have a specific number of, you know, amount of dwelling coverage. So now to rebuild the 2,000.
Starting point is 00:52:24 thousand square feet home could cost up you know in the uh two million range you saw what happened to spencer pratt they're they're requiring him to put kisons in before he builds his foundation which would be 1.2 million dollars for a million dollar house so the insurance covers a million bucks that was it so he wouldn't even be able to get started without spending all the insurance money i just i just hope they don't allow you know nothing against again we're immigrants ourselves but i just hope they don't allow foreign investors especially these private equities like the black rocks to come to Altadena, which Alta Dina, I'm sure you've been there many times, as you mentioned. It's such a, the homes had so much character.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Now they're probably going to build these modern homes, all, you know, the cookie cutter, square looking, it looks like a rehab center type of homes. Yeah, yeah. Whereas prior to this, if you drove on Montecito or, you know, Altadina Drive, the homes were Spanish style, colonial, hooter. Craftsmen. Craftsmen. It was just gorgeous.
Starting point is 00:53:21 From the 1920s, early 20th century. Now it's going to all look like Irvine. Oh, God. Oh, man. I hope not. I like her. It just, it just, see. It is overkill with the little homes there.
Starting point is 00:53:35 As long as they don't, as Armand Munches, as long as they don't do those cookie cutter style homes where there's no character, no charm, no warmth. No backyard. There's another issue as well. No backyard as well. I mean, it's terrible and it's flat and hot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Listen, if you want a house like that, hit me up. I'll take you to Porta Ranch. You can buy a house. Beautiful. Yeah, but there's a gas leak in Porta Ranch. It is a good neighborhood and the schools are great and it's also close to the beach and you can, you know, it's... Is that right again? Yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:54:04 But when you invest your money into something that is like everything else on the block and for miles around, it's kind of weird. Like, you have to have some character. I'm looking at the chat here at the Rumble Randers and Ira Flower says, Glendell and Burbank are hands down the best cities in L.A. apologies. I don't think she's been down to place. To say that, I mean, there are areas that are amongst the ice is. No, I do.
Starting point is 00:54:33 I think for the most part it is, especially Burbank's about half the size of Glendale. I grew up in Glendale, but moved to Burbank after got married. Plus, you got the beautiful airport, which... That's true. Yeah, they were in expanding. No homeless. You guys took care of that business.
Starting point is 00:54:51 Yeah. Glendell and Burbank have a no-home That's true. That's true. So we're good with that. Except my office in Burbank. Except for your office. I've had a homeless there for 15 years continuously.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Well, you've got to stop feeding him. So if you're on brand, you're in the Americana, we're good. Yeah. We're good. Burbank, you're in the, what do they call that downtown area? It's all new. It's downtown. I used to go to Pickwick all the time.
Starting point is 00:55:12 It wasn't good. It was in nice room. I know. Yeah. Well, actually, the ice rink is still there, but the bowling alley is all the apartments. It's okay. They'll just build some affordable housing there. I never got to.
Starting point is 00:55:22 trouble in Burbank, though. Never. But you know the one thing? Well, they give chicken shit tickets out very readily, Burbank. Jaywalking. I was just going to mention, the beauty of living in Glendell Burbank is, if God forbid, you ever need paramedics or law enforcement, literally two minutes or less, they're in front of your house. Yeah. I had a friend from high school that was a sergeant in Glendale, and they were a good operation.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Yeah. The Tri-City area is probably the best place to be, the Burbank, Pasadena, and Glendale. You know, because it's not L.A. Arcadia's on the border. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll talk more about the podcast.
Starting point is 00:55:58 What else you guys get into? What are you going to do with me today when I go sit down with you guys? Well, the podcast, we began it in 2018. And this is like pre-COVID. And when we began it, it was kind of like lifestyle-based, political-based, fatherhood-based. Because, you know, Armand and myself were both fathers as well. How old? I have a four-year-old.
Starting point is 00:56:22 old and I have a eight year old. I have an eight and a six. Eight years. Yeah, I have two boys. He has an older daughter, younger boys. I got the best of both worlds. Yeah, I got the best of both worlds. But when we began it, it was kind of like to talk to the community.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Just without revealing where you got, do you live over this direction in Glendale? You live more towards brand kind of, or the... I live in Burbank now. He's in Burbank. I'm more towards the, this side of it. Towards the brand library. No, no, no, no. Over here.
Starting point is 00:56:51 I'm towards Glendale City. I can throw a rock into your backyard. Oh, wow. That's, that's, you're across the, well, you may live where we used to live. We used to live up in the, up, what the hell was the name of the street? We used to drive.
Starting point is 00:57:03 We were in, up by Lita, the top of Lita. Okay. That sort of, that big bowl of, I know where you guys were. Light of your Romanian and Lita if you're Spanish. I'm in the Rosmoin area, so I'm in, I'm where Stocker and Dryden and Mountain Street is. That's where we are.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Oh, that's beautiful. It is beautiful. We have friends over there. It's a historic district. They try to keep as much of the charm in that neighborhood as possible. They've got it. You'll see a lot of Spanish homes. You'll see a lot of tutors.
Starting point is 00:57:32 We go there all the time. Yeah, it's beautiful. Armenian friends. There you go. I know. We'll be over for dinner. Oh, listen, you don't scare us with a good time. We will feed you and make sure.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Hey, hell, we've met even burp you. Yeah. And then we'll send you home. And then we'll send you up. We'll send you on with a pack of room. Are you guys dealing with men's issues? Because that's, I mean, you're, you guys sort of. As far as what men's issues.
Starting point is 00:57:55 How men have been shit on for the last 10 years. We talk about that all the time. Because, look, it's important, as Arnold mentioned earlier, fatherhood was one of the emphasis of the podcast. And the way we do that is making sure and encouraging fathers to be present, to be present, husbands, present fathers. Because. But our meetings have always been there. They have been. But social media, you know, everybody's on their phone.
Starting point is 00:58:18 Nobody's paying attention to anything. I see. How to be present. really present to truly be present but on top of that of course i mean the whole feminist movement has ruined uh everything that women worked decades to to accomplish now it's all being taken away so we are we we push the whole thing about masculinity and as they like to call now toxic masculinity which is what again being present being the provider yeah you know the protector of your family so that's part of everything that we discussed to bring the community together to encourage people
Starting point is 00:58:50 to be just how to treat their wives, how to treat their kids and just their families and friendship, everything in general. Be involved. Be involved. That's the key factor is being involved. Being involved with your kids, being involved with your family, making sure that family dynamic is there. Having the right morals, having the right values, having the right principles.
Starting point is 00:59:10 Because when you look on social media, all that stuff is being thrown out the window. You see all these influencers out there talking about, God knows what, but. Are these people truly happy? To me, and Armand could vouch for it as well. Our happiness is our family and our children. Relationships are always that may be happy. It's always the case. We always talk about it.
Starting point is 00:59:31 And I mentioned we're born alone, we die alone. It's the relationships we build during that period of time. But we're talking about leading a good life, which is something that people are so busy trying to lead a long life. They're not talking about leading a good life. But you guys have set a record today. It's the longest I've ever spoken to new Armenian friends without, and particularly talking about Glendale and not mentioning
Starting point is 00:59:52 not mentioning Carousel the restaurant number one and number two, genocide didn't come up. That's the longest I've ever gone. Forget with new friends, any Armenian friends talking about the genocide. And so I have a curious question. It feels like
Starting point is 01:00:09 my Armenian friends always go, because it's never been acknowledged, blah, blah, blah, we have to bring it up. We've got to not forget, which, of course. But I think it's it was so traumatizing to think Armenian population that just it bleeds through. My question is, is the fact that we haven't talked about it thus far a sign that people are more aware of it?
Starting point is 01:00:29 You don't feel that need to kind of push, you know, to bring it up all the time, or is it still just as omnipresent as ever and needs acknowledgement? I mean, it's still, it happened in 1915 and we continue to always bring it up, regardless of any podcast that we sit with or interview we sit with. but as far as continuously speaking about it, we want to encourage people to remember the past but also see what we can do for the future as well. The Armenian community is a very tight-knit community.
Starting point is 01:01:01 We have brilliant minds that come out of that community as well. When you look at the history of Armenia and the people, we've had some amazing inventors from the people who created the MRI, x-rays, color television, the green that's on. Our dollar bills came from an Armenian. So we try to encourage people to see what we've basically contributed to society. But at the same time, know that we do have those scars from 1915. And one unfortunately happened to 1.5 million of our people and the individuals that were scattered all over the world.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Yes. This is why we talk about, oh, Syrian Armenians, Iranian Armenians, Russian Armenians. but when two Armenians meet in one place, at the end of the day, we're all just Armenians. Yeah, but you also have an obligation to live a good life on behalf of the people that didn't get through the genocide. Absolutely. Absolutely. And we tend to encourage more so about getting rid of the victimhood mentality. Yes.
Starting point is 01:02:06 I think things are changing a little bit. I think that's why we're not having. That's why I brought it up to be funny, but also because I know the power of this, that experience for Armenian community. I think when Turkey kind of acknowledged it, it helped a little bit, they didn't fully acknowledge it, did they? No, no. Didn't they kind of, didn't they, I thought they have not. Turkey hasn't
Starting point is 01:02:25 acknowledged it. Turkey hasn't acknowledged it. And we were actually in a conflict with Azerbaijan five years ago over a strip of land that we unfortunately lost to the Azeris. Who else hasn't acknowledged it? Israel hasn't acknowledged it as well.
Starting point is 01:02:42 Israel was involved in that? Well, in the 20, listen, not to get political, but in the 2020 war, there are, Israel did supply weapons to Azerbaijan that unfortunately worked against the Armenians. So, so we're not talking about the genocide with the Israelis. We're talking about this, this Azerbaijan conflict. Yeah, the conflict that happened with Azerbaijan. I mean, to be honest with you, it's an ongoing genocide because we had 150,000 Armenians displaced, ethnically cleansed from Arzach, which is not. known as the Kornogarabar, two of the Azerbaijani's,
Starting point is 01:03:18 and these people were displaced and sent to all, you know, parts of all over the world, including Armenia. Do you guys talk about what's going on the Middle East on your show? We do. Yeah. Absolutely. We do devil with it, yes. Let's sort of, before I wrap up and go do your show, any thoughts on the 14 points, so called? This sort of agreement to agree.
Starting point is 01:03:39 It just, you know, after the day, when you look at it, okay, prior to the war with Iran. We had an agreement in place, did we not? The Strait of Hormuz was open. I just can't seem to figure out why did we need to go into war with Iran. Iran's technically directly never been a threat to the United States. Forget about the propaganda of, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:05 when they yelled Akbar or whatever it is to, you know, Macpack, America. Yeah, death to America. Of course, there's a lot of threats around the world. but I think the biggest threat to the United States is internally has nothing to do with Iran. It's what's going on now? Yeah, I think Iran, I mean...
Starting point is 01:04:23 Could external forces be fomenting all this or a lot of it? I would say so because, look, the United States has a tendency of using false flags to justify going into war invading countries, which I don't agree with. And I think Iran was an example of that because there's a reason why we're not going, we're not sending boots to the ground in Iran
Starting point is 01:04:52 because you just can't challenge Iran from that aspect of... Well, I don't think this country will put up with that. Yeah. No, yeah, which rightfully so, the people of the United States should not put up with that. But at the end of the day, I just think it's kind of like there was nothing going on. We created a conflict and now we're going to find a resolution to the conflict.
Starting point is 01:05:12 I actually feel that I don't I don't trust anything in the media anymore. We're all there. Yes. Yep. So I have no way of knowing what is it is not true. What is it is not a risk? What is it is not, you know, just manufactured. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:05:29 So I literally refuse to take an opinion because it's an opinion based on thin air for me. I mean, you may have ways of thinking about it or researching it where you kind of feel more secure in what your opinion is. I just feel like I. the media, the journalists, such a mess. I just think the best example, the best example I could think of is, not that it's happened recently,
Starting point is 01:05:52 it's like you create a virus, and then you come up with the solution for the virus, right? God, where would they have heard that story? Right. I feel like that's what we're doing. It's like, well, we've got this terrorist state. We're going to go bomb them and then, well, there is no nuclear bombs.
Starting point is 01:06:06 There are no nuclear weapons. Maybe there were. I mean, I don't know. Nobody knows. We're going to close the Australian. of Hamous. No, now we're going to open it. No, we got a negotiation when they're closed. It's open. It's opened. It's open. Nobody knows what the hell's going on. I think that's, let's leave it right there, because that's where I feel most comfortable. Oh, Drew, wait, we have a pianist among us.
Starting point is 01:06:25 I know, I heard him playing. Who? You? Who? Me? Who? Did you play the piano? Was it the stuff that Douglas would play? Did you hear? I could hear. I was busy, so I couldn't hear what exactly was being played. Well, we have something in common with that. We lived with a pianist or two for several years. One being Armenian. Your son's piano teacher. He was Soviet Armenian. So it was like, whoa.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Probably graduated from the conservatory. I think he was. Yeah, 100%. When he started as a kid. He was driving a room for eight hours with a glass of water and make him play piano all day. Yeah, they lock him in a room. Wow.
Starting point is 01:07:02 You know, with a glass of water, going to be back in four hours, learn this piece. Torture. Well. And so my son kind of hated him periods of time and now loves him because it really taught him to really play. He's so skilled and he appreciates what he did for him.
Starting point is 01:07:17 How did you learn how to play piano? In Armenia we had a piano at home because my aunt was taking lessons, but I never touched it. Then when we moved here, the apartment we rented had this old organ there. So I just started kind of playing on my own. Oh, wow. And then my parents took me to piano lessons. I hated it because I didn't want to play classical music. I wanted to play whatever I enjoyed.
Starting point is 01:07:43 So I just followed, kind of, started listening to Yanni and emulating his music. He's a natural. Yeah, that's a certain talent. Our pianist, our pianist, our piano teacher, also played the organ. Oh, yeah. But, you know, like, serious and sure of saying. But no, he was down there improvising and he was really good. Yeah, I just improvised.
Starting point is 01:08:03 I don't know how to read sheet music. That's crazy. I'm blind when it comes to sheet music. Yeah, I just. I had a friend like that. college. It's mysterious to me what you guys are able to do. It's like, wow, does this happen? Yeah, he's got a special talent. And usually,
Starting point is 01:08:14 they'll say, I just play the chords and I can hear the, you know, I just put the thirds in. My grandfather was like that. He wasn't trained. He could just do everything by. We're going to wrap it up. Wise Nuts, at Wise Nuts on YouTube. Wise underscore Nuts on X. Wise Nuts underscore podcast on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:08:33 Anywhere else you want people to go? You could find us everywhere on Spotify, Apple, Are we going live or are we going to be on something this recording? We'll do a pre-recording. Okay, when's that likely to go up so we can tell these folks? Next week. Next Wednesday. It'll be up on, it'll be up next week.
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Starting point is 01:09:15 Okay, good. These nuts are wise nuts. It's a good thing you need to say numb nuts. It's truly pleasure being on your show. We love having you and I look forward to you interviewing me. We'll go all kinds of places. I've been following you since I was a kid. And I always thought you're the coolest doctor on TV.
Starting point is 01:09:31 And I get to sit and be interviewed by you and then now be able to interview you shortly. Have that. Can't wait. Thank you. Okay, guys, appreciate you being here. And for everyone else, let's throw up the guests coming our way next week. It's Thursday, yeah. So Tuesday at 2 will be from New York, Baja, Angar Sargon.
Starting point is 01:09:48 She'll be great, very interesting. Andrew Yang, I wonder if we get Andrew. He's in New York, Susan. We should try to get Andrew in our apartment. Scott Pressler. Just have dinner with him later. B.K. Maniki, I can never pronounce her name. She's the researcher physician who first identified some two excellent studies that show
Starting point is 01:10:08 that the lot of the vaccine had everything to do with more risk for adverse events. So all right, everybody. Caleb, anything on your front? I'm looking at the restream chat. Thank you guys. The other interesting one is coming up on the 30th. It's Damien Eccles. And he is one of the West Memphis 3.
Starting point is 01:10:26 He was convicted of a triple murder in 94. And then they've basically proved that he didn't do it. He was on death row. So that's going to be a really interesting story. All right, guys. I'm looking at the rants. You guys are very active today. Yes, Damien Eccles.
Starting point is 01:10:45 That how you pronounce it, Caleb? Yes, I think so. Yeah, Damian Eccles. Yeah. He was one of three teenagers, the West Memphis three, convicted of a triple murder in 94 despite lack of physical evidence.
Starting point is 01:10:58 Eish. Terrible. Okay, well, we will be seeing you guys Tuesday. Two o'clock. See you then. Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Caleb Nation and Susan Pinsky.
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