Ask Dr. Drew - mRNA Flu Vaccine Gets FDA Approval But Safety Data Shows “Higher Observed Death” Says Dr. Jessica Rose w/ Dr. Kelly Victory & Peter Gillooly – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 655

Starting point is 00:00:01 Dr. Jessica Rose joins us again. She, of course, is deeply involved in the analysis of some of the data as it comes out. And we were talking just off the air about how she is reliving the trauma of all this and the confusion we all had back in the darker hours of COVID. And now reading the Fauci text, things start to make sense, even though they still don't make sense. Also, the FDA has approved Moderna's MRNNN-RNA flu vaccine. and everyone age 50 and up can have access. They claim the safety trials had more than 40,000 people, but Dr. Jessica Rose is an immunologist and computational biologist.

Starting point is 00:00:40 She read the trial and says it's flawed. She writes that there was no saline placebo, and the comparison group got a different flu vaccine instead, and even says it showed higher observed deaths in the MRNA group. So we'll talk about that. Then Dr. Kelly Victory, Chief Emergency and Disaster in Medicine, Chief of Emergency and Disaster Medicine at the Wellness Company. She's overseeing the wellness care, which I want to get into as well.

Starting point is 00:01:06 When Peter Galulie gets here is the CEO of Wellness, Kelly's first going to talk about the Fauci Diaries. And I urge her to listen to Jessica Rose's comments and anything that strikes her fancy to comment. And we were talking again a little bit off there. A lot happens off the air here about the forces at work that created something like Dr. Fauci. And maybe there's a bigger war being had here that we're only all just slowly becoming aware of. Yes, Peter Galooly in here, CEO of the Wellness Company. We're going to discuss what TWC

Starting point is 00:01:40 is finding in there in our Alpha Gal research. It's a research paper. Nick Holshree, you've seen on this show many times, is put together a exhaustive paper. It's really, it's sort of an epic about Alpha Gal. I was highly impressed and persuaded, even though it's a topic I know very little about You can find X, excuse me, Peter Galooly on X and Peter Galooly, G-I-L-O-O-O-L-L-Y, and Dr. Victory on X, D-R-Kelly Victory. And I'll give you more about Jessica when we return. Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre. The psychopaths start this.

Starting point is 00:02:18 He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction. Fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous. I'm a doctor for a sick. Where the hell you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals.

Starting point is 00:02:34 Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Loveland all the time, educate adolescents, and to prevent, and to treat. Do you have trouble? You can't stop, and you want to help stop it. I can help. I got a lot to say. I got a lot more to say. Dr. Jessica Rose is a researcher.

Starting point is 00:02:57 She has a degree in applied mathematics and a master's in immunology from Memorial University of Newfoundland. a PhD in computational biology and she completed a postdoctoral research in molecular biology and biochemistry. You can follow her on Jessica Rose Sorry, Jessica Universe.com, also on X. Jessica loves MJK and Jessica has a substack as well.

Starting point is 00:03:28 It's Jesse Carr. Jessica, welcome back. You make that very difficult on me. Too many different new variations on the theme of Jessica Rose. Well, I'm so glad to be back. The unacceptable Jessica is the mainstay for anyone who wants to learn about what I'm researching right now. The Jessica's universe website hasn't been active for quite a while. Okay, got it.

Starting point is 00:04:00 Sorry about that. No, fine. I'm sorry about it. have not promoted that and gone right to your, say, which one you want people to go to again? Unacceptable, Jessica? She is. So, Jessica, talk to me about what you found when you looked at the research on this MRNA vaccine. You know, people have emotional reactions to the MRNA platform.

Starting point is 00:04:28 They immediately have an opinion just based on how they feel about it. but we're scientists. We're supposed to look at this. I, you know, I'm generally the opinion that I'm not interested in withholding anything from, you know, from physicians, you know, sort of quiver. If they want this in their armamentarium, fine. But if they're going to apply it, they need to understand the risk reward of that application. And you're saying the study was poorly done. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, people should know that it's not just this. Flusiva product that recently got FDA approved that's in the pipeline. There are a lot of MRNA gene-based therapies in the Moderna pipeline alone right now.

Starting point is 00:05:20 I just want to throw that out there. This particular product did get recent FDA approval for our elders. They always seem to target the elders first. and it was not compared against a saline placebo. The study compared this new MRNA technology against a conventional, you know, we'll just call it that influenza vaccine. And even still, the MRNA product was associated with more deaths.

Starting point is 00:05:58 And what I did, I wrote a substack about this, this was I introduced the idea of comparing both of these, the regular flu vaccine and the mRNA vaccine against a, you know, what might actually appear as results in terms of a placebo. You would never expect serious adverse events to arise from being injected with saline, and you would certainly not expect death. So if you assume, it's hypothetical, but if you assume that you compare both of these products against an actual saline placebo, you, from their own data, you see that there's 30 times, you know, more likelihood that you're going to die. This is their data.

Starting point is 00:06:50 And this is on the back of... How did that get missed by most people? I don't know if it got missed. I mean, the, you know, this book about how to lie with statistics, I mean, I don't know if they're borrowing from that, but one of the ways that you can hide the problems with vaccines in general is to compare it to a previously existing vaccine. But the thing about it is, you know, that's not good enough because those previously existing vaccines are all. also, you know, associated with adverse events. They don't tell you that. If you compare something, you know, a new product with something that exists that's already problematic in terms of adverse events,

Starting point is 00:07:44 you see what I'm saying? It's like, you know, you can't. It's ridiculous. It's just one of the tactics that they seem to use. And what I don't get is why the FDA. is in favor of approving this, not only the products, but the methodology. I mean, it's so flawed. Well, they get, I bet you I know what's happening.

Starting point is 00:08:07 I bet the conversation in the room was, oh, it's so important that these people get the flu vaccine. We can't possibly ethically give them a, that I'm sure it's what it was. You can't give them a saline vaccine because, oh, my God, they're all going to die of the flu. And if you also saw there was an interesting study came out about the use of, Tamiflu in flu patients. It was in patients in the ICU dying of complications of flu, probably secondary pneumonia's. And they give them the, it's insane. You know, the flu, for you all, if you have access to a flu treatment, Tamaflu is a good one.

Starting point is 00:08:48 There are like two or three others that are very similar. But you have to use them early or they have very little effect. You've got to reduce the viremia. That's what they do. But once the inflammation's in, think about COVID. I think we learn that during COVID. Once it's down in the complications into the cytokine storm and the homo reembley and all that, it's no longer about the virus.

Starting point is 00:09:06 It's about what the virus had done. Exactly. And I'd just like to remind people, because I always like to go back to the basics, I guess. Blue vaccines are traditionally not the go-to in terms of. of getting over the flu. The flu is, you know, it's a fast mutating virus. There's antigenic drift every year.

Starting point is 00:09:35 We all get the flu, you know. It's not really dangerous for most demographics. The flu shot, in my opinion, is completely bogus. It's just another money-making scheme. So if you're considering, or if you have a loved one who's considering, you know, injecting themselves with this, please apprise them. First of all, of the common sense, you know, you can always enhance your immune system using zinc and vitamin C and and zinc ionophores

Starting point is 00:10:08 like cortisotin. There are ways that you can optimize your immune system so that you have a better time, let's say, when you do get exposed to the flu, which you inevitably will. these products come with risk, severe risk. I mean, what we were just talking about is not chills or fatigue or malaise. This is death. And this is their own data. So bear that in mind. So that end point, I'm going to switch the topic in a second to the substack you've written about the New York Times article on miscarriages and the COVID vaccine.

Starting point is 00:10:46 But before I do, one last question about this. this particular study on the MRNA vaccine, the flu MRNA. What was their time horizon? Because so many of the things we worry about with MRNA platforms are way down the line. Do you know what there? Was it a three-month study, a six-month study, a year study? It certainly wasn't a multi-year study, I suspect. Actually, I don't know the exact time frame, but I can, you know, I don't think I need to.

Starting point is 00:11:12 I mean, it's all of these products that are in the pipeline now, are being expedited. And the reason they're being expedited and the reason why they have the label automatically like green labeled safe and effective is because of the COVID shots. It's still in the narrative mainstream that those things come without risk. They're safe and effective. So the trials that are being done for subsequent products where they just swap out the gene, you know, the plug and play.

Starting point is 00:11:49 They're definitely not sufficient in my eyes. You know, I... Nothing is without risk. There's nothing in medicine. Walking into my office has risk. You know, there's just, there's nothing in medicine that we do, doesn't have risk. But we're limited on time.

Starting point is 00:12:06 So I want to get into this article you wrote about, in response to the New York Times saying, we know that the COVID vaccine doesn't cause miscarriages. What did they get wrong? Just about everything. So for context here, for the people who don't realize, thanks to Senator Johnson, we got a hold of not only Fauci's emails, thanks to Senator Rand Paul, but we got a hold of his phone. So it was too important for Senator Johnson not to disclose one of the messages that they found within the text messages. And it was written from the surgeon general at the time, I believe, Dr. Murthy to Dr. Fauci.

Starting point is 00:12:54 And it's in reference to a concern about the mRNA shots, the COVID shots, causing mutations in the developing fetus. And this was due to cytokine storms post-second dose as per their messages. So Dr. Fauci responds, I asked her, around a lot more and another issue came up that you need to be aware of. Since many people have significant cytokine storm and fever after second dose, this theoretically could be associated with miscarriage in the first trimester. And this is a very prescient warning. Fouchy was absolutely correct when he said this. And by the way, this was said on the first, I'm sorry, the 20, of January in 2021. This was very shortly after the initial rollout of the injectable products,

Starting point is 00:13:52 the COVID shots. And the thing about this is that, I mean, you can read my substack to see all of the points that I debunk, but what he said was absolutely correct. I couldn't even post the number of published articles, peer-reviewed published articles that confirm what he's saying, if you have a disruption in the inflammatory response, you know, from the immune system due to something, i.e., due to the COVID shots, which was a thing, you couldn't do some miscarriage. They knew about all of this. And so, you know, the article's title, the New York Times, you know, article title is COVID vaccines are not linked to miscarriage. Here's how we know.

Starting point is 00:14:43 And they, first of all, they're using, you know, the Republicans are saying this very strange language without ever actually addressing what was stated in this text message from a biological point of view. They don't even address it. They go back to this, you know, these people are saying that the New England, the New England, Journal of Medicine article was saying that there were 82% you know miscarriages instead of the reported 12.6 and by the way for all of you people who don't realize this they had to um they had to change their claim they were forced to publicly correct the mistake that they made

Starting point is 00:15:30 in their calculation because they used an inappropriate denominator so when you change the reporting frequency of miscarriages in the test subject in the first trimester, first and second, it goes from 12.6 that they reported percent miscarriage rate to 83. So that's what they focused on. They still didn't acknowledge that there was a, you know, an admission of a public, you know, correction of a mistake. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And not only that, but. you know, while the miscarriage rate in the first trimester is like something like 10, 12 percent, the miscarriage rate in the second trimester is like 5%. The miscarriage rate overall is 1.2 percent, and they use the overall 12 percent for the entirety of a

Starting point is 00:16:24 pregnancy as somehow not an increase when it should be 1.2 percent. It's 10 times what the usual rates are, and no one put it out there like, well, of course, this looks fine. It's really kind of extraordinary. And I completely agree with you. The cytokine issue, when I saw that, I thought at minimum, at minimum, we should have been having a long discussion amongst physicians, amongst professionals about the fact that cytokine activates, that's a profound thing.

Starting point is 00:16:56 Even outside of pregnancy, the second booster is creating a, or the first, the second shot is creating a cytokine activation. That is like, oh, my God. God, you have to share that with your patients. You have to do that. And by the way, a lot of the really bad vaccine reactions I've seen is either after the second shot of the first booster. That's where the stuff really got bad.

Starting point is 00:17:19 And I assume it has something to do with this activation, which is a profound thing. It's a profound immune reaction. And we don't know where it goes or what it's long. We have no idea. So, yes, I agree with you. that the fact that that was in a message the fact that that was there and nine days later all we can say is safe and effective and no conversation about it and then pressuring woleski not to talk about it

Starting point is 00:17:46 that is that to me is not just reprehensible it's sick well well it's intentional as well i mean you know i'm always looking at this word fraud and it's like you you have to prove willful misconduct and intention. And it's like, how is this not intentional if the very people who are pushing, like, all the way down the line for these things to go into, you know, infants still, you know, still being pushed into infants? Yes. How is it possible that, yeah, you get what I'm saying. There's also a video. I get what you're saying. It's a retroactive video from the Surgeon general, it almost made me want to vomit. I mean, first of all, it was scripted what he was saying. And it came after what would have been the exchange in private messages between Fauci and

Starting point is 00:18:47 Murphy and Wiennski as well. I mean, dudes, like, it can't get clearer. It cannot get clearer. They absolutely knew there was a specific risk. And you're You're absolutely right, Dr. Drew, when you're talking about, you know, the second shot and the third shots did a lot more than just put pregnant women at risk. They induced subclass switches in IGG, which induced tolerance, which made people more susceptible to SARS in the first place, which is why the number one reported adverse event in VERS and has been. since 2022 is freaking COVID-19. I mean, the hyperinflation, the imbalance, the dysregulation of the immune system at the base level is so clear. And I just, I cannot ever, I will never get over or understand why all of a sudden,

Starting point is 00:19:57 in pregnant women who can't even eat tuna fish, all of a sudden it was safe to project an experimental based product that was known to have these effects and by the way I agree with you and during Alpha and Delta I get it was kind of a panic

Starting point is 00:20:19 there was people saying the COVID was worse they were weighing out risk for reward but when Omicron came along it was clear that there was no major major risk but there we go can you stick around I'm wondering I want to get Dr. Victory and here, see if she has any follow-on questions for you, okay? All right, Dr. Kelly Victory joins me right after this.

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Starting point is 00:21:57 And he's a doctor. So why would you question doctor? Dr. Drew called me unfixable. Another thing to think about with Bioppro is if you're on a GLP1, we're trying to figure out ways to maintain muscle mass when you're on those damn medicines to lose the fat. You lose everything. And something like this could potentially be seeing something

Starting point is 00:22:21 your doctor could deploy to help get the growth hormones up. You've got to work out there. You've got to maintain that muscle. And I want to talk a little bit about health care and Medicare. It's so complicated. a provider for decades. Now I'm a patient. And there are so many plans, there's so much fine print. It is bewildering. You're always worried you're going to end up with wrong coverage or not enough coverage or spending too much. I suggest you talk to the people at Chapter.

Starting point is 00:22:46 They're an independent Medicare advisor group, and they are the only ones who compare every Medicare plan that's available nationwide. These advisors are not there to steer you towards some particular plan over another. It is free. It is simply there to help you find the coverage that best fits your doctors, prescriptions, and your health care needs. And if you're already in the best plan, it will tell you to stay right where you are. That's what happened to me. I sent Susan in. She had to adjust some stuff in her secondary.

Starting point is 00:23:14 I was right where I needed to be, which seemed like, I don't know how I, I thought, it seemed like I was spending too much money, but at least I know Chapter checked it out. Last year, people who switched, though, on average, if they used Chapter, saved an average of $1,100 on their health care expense. So if you're on Medicare, you're heading into Medicare. call 218-521-21-2472 or just go to dr drew.com slash chapter it's worth your time you get on the phone with them it's just 20 minutes to talk to a real person and they'll tell you what the plan is that's best for you or how to switch your plan or just to stay where you're put i i wish i had chapter when i was getting

Starting point is 00:23:55 my medicare all set up i ended up having two insurances at the same time for a year and if i'd had them, I would have known how to, it was ridiculous. And they looked at that and went, why did you do that? And I said, because I didn't have somebody like chapter to help me. But here we are. All right, Dr. Kelly, Victory is the chief of emergency and disaster medicine at the wellness company. She's also overseeing wellness care. She's a trauma and emergency specialist with over 30 years of experience served as chief medical officer for the Fortune 500 companies and is an alumna of Harvard's National Preparedness Leadership Initiative. She's a contributed author of Toxic Shock,

Starting point is 00:24:35 Facing the dangers of the COVID vaccines. You can follow it up to Victory. It's DR Kelly Victory on X. And I saw some other crazy thing, Kelly, like some other link to a social media that I'd never heard of for you, but is it DR Kelly Victory? Is that where they should go?

Starting point is 00:24:53 Yeah, if there's a link to something else, it's probably a fraud, because my only social media platform, Drew, is on X, as well, obviously, is the work I do at the wellness company. But yes, on X at DR Kelly Victory. And by the way, Medicare is insanely and irresponsibly complex. I certainly deal with it now more than ever because of my work at wellness care. It's ridiculous. And I think it could so easily be simplified. Anyway, I'm also thrilled to be joining Jess Rose. Haven't seen her in a while. So happy that she's on with you today and looking forward to having Peter Galooly from the wellness company join us as well to talk about a lot of this.

Starting point is 00:25:35 One of the things that I would like to go back on the record saying, I felt from the very beginning, and I know, Drew, I said it to you many, many times during the early part of the pandemic, that I thought that part of the goal of the scamdemic was to make MRNA a household word, to make people believe. that this was a platform that was tried and tested and it's been around for decades. It's totally safe. We know everything about it. You know, it's good for everybody, children, old people, pregnant people, whatever, you know, take one, take two, take five. It's all good. That simply is not the case. MRNA is a highly flawed platform. Have scientists been studying it for decades? Absolutely. But it has failed every single time. sometimes with disastrous results where all of the test animals died, for example. But fast forward to COVID, because of the emergency use authorization, all of the sudden,

Starting point is 00:26:37 they were able to mainstream this MRNA platform and act as if this was totally normal. They should have had to go through an entirely different regulatory process for a genetic therapy because these shots are not, by anyone's definition, frankly, an actual vaccine. So there were so many things I'd like to get just as kind of input on that, on the MRNA platform itself. And the idea that now, once again, we just have, again, inexplicably the FDA approving Moderna's new MRNIA flu vaccine acting once again as if, oh, yeah, MRNA, all good. We know everything about it.

Starting point is 00:27:20 That's been, you know, tried, you know, true and tested. We don't need to go through any special hoops. And that's exactly what I had predicted and what I was fearful about when they rolled out the COVID-MRNA shots under that EUA, that they would then use that now that millions of people around the globe have gotten it to act as if good. That's the launching pad. And now it's going to be MRNA everything. Jessica, what do you say? Oh, you're muted.

Starting point is 00:27:53 You're muted over there. Sorry about that. Here we go. No problem. Yeah, I would like to bring everyone's attention to a recent post on X that I made about the Moderna pipeline. I'm just going to look at the name of this product that was until recently in their pipeline to solve the problem. of a damaged heart tissue. And I wonder why that would have been a problem.

Starting point is 00:28:31 Just give me a second to find the name of this product. Oh, it's called Relaxin. So if you go to my Jess Love's MJK, you'll find a little post about something called MRNA-184, which is the nucleoside-modified Messenger-Mr-R-N-A text. wrapped in lipidina particles that was designed to target a fibrodite or injured heart. Now, anyone who has been paying attention knows, you know, like without a shadow of a doubt,

Starting point is 00:29:08 even the CEC admit this, that myocarditis is a massive issue with these products. And what that means is that you get fibronic, you know, fibrosis of the myocardium of the heart, it makes it less able to beat properly, et cetera. So they designed this new product based on the same bloody technology to target this problem. Now, it's not in the pipeline anymore, but there are 27 other MRNA products in that pipeline. So, I mean, I was shocked when I saw this. This is recent. They're either in...

Starting point is 00:29:49 You know, it's funny. I'm just thinking about this. conversation the three of us are having. This was normal conduct for scientists and clinicians eight years ago. We would sit and talk about stuff like this all the time. Now, this conversation is cast as either clandestine or partisan. It's just laughably disgusting. I'm looking at some of the comments on the restream. And I'm like, what? This is just scientists bring it up issues. So you have the information you need when you're making an informed consent with your doctor. Right. And I think part of the problem, Drew, is that, as I said, when something is sold as

Starting point is 00:30:36 mainstream or people use words and terms that your average layperson couldn't possibly be expected to understand. We can't, like, MRI technology is difficult for me as a physician. to fully understand. I try to boil it down and explain to lay people and say, the bottom line is we are modifying your genetic coding so that you begin making this messenger tells your body to create proteins that it didn't create before that left to its own devices it wouldn't create. In the case of the COVID shots, it gave your body the instruction manual to create a spike

Starting point is 00:31:15 protein, something your body otherwise would never do. The problem is there's no off switch to that instruction manual. It seems like something they would have tried to figure out before they injected millions of people with it. But we need to boil the stuff down, I think, into ways not, I'm not going to call it dumbing down, because these people aren't dumb. They don't have scientific backgrounds. The vast majority of the population doesn't understand that a cytokine storm is an abnormal response of the immune system, an overzealous response that can set off an entire cascade of really bad things, including inflammation and blood clotting and lots of other things that we saw in direct response to these shots. And that is in large part what may have set off some of these

Starting point is 00:32:07 early pregnancy miscarriages and on and on. So I think part of what happens is that you have people out there on a daily basis, Rachel Maddow and whoever else, the people on the view, throwing these terms around as if they know what they are. They say, wait, MRI, as if it's, oh, pasha, you know, or satokine storm, you know, it's uncommon, as if you have any idea, you know, these people couldn't pronounce hydroxychloroquine, you know, a month before the COVID pandemic. And all of the sudden, they're tossing the terms around. And I think we need in part as scientists to do what we are doing here, which is demystify these things, explain and lay terms what they are, and explain why, this is not conspiracy theory,

Starting point is 00:32:56 there's a reason why a thinking scientist should absolutely have concern about MRI and how it's going to act and how you're going to turn off the instructions you just gave your body when that's time for those instructions when they're no longer useful. How are you going to prevent a cytokine storm, your body from overreacting to the immune challenge, which is what a vaccine is, and on and on? So part of it is really the complicity, I think, of the talking heads who throw these terms around as if they are household words and that everybody should know and be totally okay with them. Yeah, there's exactly, you're putting, you're putting, hang on one second, Jessica,

Starting point is 00:33:41 you're putting Rand Paul's picture up there. He does know what he's talking about. He's a, you know, he's a Duke trained physician, an ophthalmologist. He was, people, what I keep saying is people don't know. He's Kelly, he's from our era. And at that particular time, only the very finest students got the ophthalmology residency. That was a high demand residency at that time. So I know he's a bright guy because he was an ophthalmologist at time when no,

Starting point is 00:34:07 but he got to be an ophthalmologist. And he went to Duke. Yeah. And he was Duke. Right. I know that's good too. I actually wanted to go there myself. But Jessica, I'm sorry, interrupt you.

Starting point is 00:34:19 No, no worries. It's just so much worse. It's funny because I literally just had a meeting with a friend who I was testing the waters with because, you know, it's a new friend and I don't know how they feel about all this COVID shit. and I'm very hesitant to bring it up because I don't know, you know, what people know. And, you know, this person was very inquisitive. Like, what's the, I was very direct. I said, do you know that these COVID shots were gene based?

Starting point is 00:34:53 Like, very basic. And he's like, no, what does that mean? And I'm like, well, the best way for me to explain it to you is that conventional vaccines, the ones that we've always kind of gotten in our. youth, you know, for our generation, are protein-based. So your body is introduced to a protein, which is a formed protein, a foreign protein. And, you know, your immune system gets tickled, mounts a response such that when you get challenged with the real pathogen, you have immunity to it. What these new gene-based therapies do, if you want to call them therapies,

Starting point is 00:35:34 is introduced the coating material for an exceedingly dangerous, and might I say, engineered in a lab protein. I say that with full confidence now. Yeah, that's the part. The instructions I don't get. Why do we continue, given that we know the pathogenicity of that spike protein, why do we keep pushing on the production of that? You guys, I have a caller here.

Starting point is 00:36:02 I want to give him a chance before I bring Peter Galooly in here while I have the two of you. Sam, you're on with Jessica Rose and Kelly Victory. Well, hi, thanks for letting me speak today. It's nice to meet all of you. I am a 48-year-old COVID-vaccine injured woman who had one Pfizer shot and my life has been completely ruined since. I was bedbound for two years, still in housebound, have lost all of my life savings and every day is just torture. And what I find very interesting is, is a complete lack of a call for immediate help for the people who are genuinely suffering. This has been demoralizing, dehumanizing, and this is absolute torture.

Starting point is 00:36:50 And it's real easy for people to sit back now and say, oh, you know, mandates were wrong and this, that, and the other. But as we've known for a long time and as it comes out more and more, if this was a created, thing. Why is there not pressure put upon the developers, the government to say, hey, you guys made this? You know what the path of physiology is. You did this. What is the antidote? What can be done for these people? Where is the immediate call for the countless people who need help? I am in tons of support groups, part of React 19 in terms of volunteering and just that circle. We are losing people by the day, the suicides. We need help. Where is the call to action to help U.S. citizens and all citizens?

Starting point is 00:37:40 Thank you. I'm going to put you on a hold, Sam. I'm going to give my guests a chance to respond. I'm going to give them a chance to respond because it's a very profound question. Kelly, you first. Well, as you know, Drew, I've been talking about this in colorful terms for a while. I said that there are three buckets in my viewpoint of how we need to handle what happened during this debacle. Number one is understanding exactly the entire scope of the injuries.

Starting point is 00:38:06 Number two is holding people accountable for what they did. And number three is Kelly Victories, how do we unfuck it? The unfuck it bucket. How do we unwind this for the people who are injured? Smart people, people smarter than I in terms of this technology, created this MRI shot. They created this. They know how it is now on them to create the way to undo it. There's got to be an off switch or a way to mitigate the damage.

Starting point is 00:38:36 And I, for one, have been calling now for the better part of five plus years for exactly that. The injuries are mounting. People's lives have been destroyed, much like this callers. My heart goes out to you. I hear reports on a daily basis. And certainly at the wellness company, we work on a daily. basis with people who have been vaccine injured and trying to come up with formulations of things to help them. But I agree without a huge pot of money in terms of, you know, to be put towards

Starting point is 00:39:09 this, to be towards the vaccine injured, there, it really isn't going to be enough. And I agree. I think that people like Rand Paul and Senator Ron Johnson are are definitely looking at that. Oh, good. I did not know that they were, but I'll have Jessica responded just a second. But the other thing is, the reality is I don't know I look to Dr. Redfield too because he comes

Starting point is 00:39:30 from the government he knows where this was, you know, he was there when this all went down. Maybe he has some ideas. He's also spending

Starting point is 00:39:37 most of his time treating vaccine injured at very minimum. Very minimum. Seems like we could have something I'm going to propose this because I know some of the guys over on the Maha side.

Starting point is 00:39:48 Some sort of some sort of regular education for the COVID-19 action group or something like that so they can have access to the best information on what can be done to unfuck it. Jessica, your comment. Well, first of all, my heart goes out to you, my dear. Um, like really, you're, you, you and everybody who is suffering is the reason why I do what I'm doing. Um,

Starting point is 00:40:20 I'd love to hear more about your specific injuries. Um, my thoughts go to, um, A friend of mine who's got an approach, therapeutic approach to remove auto-antibodies and garbage spike protein from the plasma in Japan. It's kind of an invasive procedure and it would require going to Japan, so it's not for everybody. But I completely agree, and I'm kind of struck by the use of your work. word antidote because sometimes I do wonder with with all of these people who are clearly involved in the creation of this pathogen and the cover up um I have to wonder if there isn't something sitting in some barrack somewhere that could actually help people I don't know I really don't know the answer because from from what I understand

Starting point is 00:41:27 and from what I've, you know, been looking at for the last six years, something about these COVID shots completely destroys the immune system in about, I don't know, I'll just throw a percentage out there, about 20% of people who got them. We have yet, after all of this time, because we're not allowed to even ask the freaking questions, what, you know, why is it some people and not other people, who are experiencing like massive immunological dysfunction to the point of almost having AIDS. You know, it's...

Starting point is 00:42:08 Some of it may be the batch, you know, the manufacturing, the lack of quality of manufacturing and the batch variability. But Jessica, I've got to bring in Peter Galooly right now. As always, it is a privilege to talk to you. We follow you everywhere. Love seeing the first surfing videos. Come on now. here we go. So I'm sure everything's cool out there.

Starting point is 00:42:33 I had the best session tonight. I'm nose ride. Like, crazy. We don't know where you are. You're still in some undisclosed location. So, yeah, turn your head and get clear the scientists out. It means you run some big waves and you've gotten some real, you wiped out and it pushes the water up into your sinuses. All right. We'll see you soon. Hi. Kelly, we get our friend and CEO, Dr. Peter Galooly in here. And we're going to talk about this Alpha-Gal article that Nick Holscher put together, which was just like an epic.

Starting point is 00:43:11 It was monumental, complete. It's the sort of simplest thing I can say about it. And I'm going to have you guys have at that a little bit. We'll talk about wellness care and all that after this. Okay. Dr. Drew here. Fatty 15 was discovered working with the Navy's fleet of dolphins. A brilliant veterinary epidemiologist realized that dolphins deficient in this odd chain fatty acid were helped by replacing that fatty acid.

Starting point is 00:43:41 They didn't get the conditions. Turns out humans have similar deficiencies. It supports healthy glucose metabolism. It gets into the cell membrane and decreases the pool of available oxidizable species. that can lead to ferroposis. So it is considered the longevity nutrient. If you'd like yours, go to doctor.com slash fatty 15. If there was ever time to be rationally ready, it is now.

Starting point is 00:44:06 I urge you to consider getting one of the emergency kits from the wellness company. Because TWC has seven different kits that are customized for a variety of situations. Wouldn't be a bad idea to take a look at each, considering, say, what we've just been through in California with the fires. I was happy to have the field kit on hand. And the contagion kit, in particular, is suited for what is being predicted to be the next outbreak. That would be the H1N5 or avian or bird flu. Of course, the same experts from the COVID era are freaking out about this potential pandemic. But don't panic.

Starting point is 00:44:38 Just arm yourself with the meds you might need if this comes to pass. Contagion emergency kit contains ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, tamiflu, and budesinite, an inhaler that is good for airway reactivity and tightness, as well as reducing viral replication in the airways. Go to Dr.do.com slash TWC for 10% off your purchase. I don't see the profession doing anything to really build trust beside you. Happy to be on here. Thank you for having me.

Starting point is 00:45:05 You and I see the world the same way. What is it like for you to be the most chiseled and best looking man in media? Giving us the information we need. Thank you for the truth. My pleasure. We are going to take your calls at 8333-D-R-D-R-A-W. Peter Gloly is the CEO of Wellness Company, where he has been since 2022. We are focused on preventative and proactive healthcare products and models trying to wed some of the best inalopathic and naturopathic ideas.

Starting point is 00:45:40 The organization's initiatives and products are there to put the power back into the hands of the patients primarily. You can follow, I believe, Peter, TWC. underscore, go to doctor.com slash GwC. Peter Galooly, I think, is on X where you can follow him. Peter, thank you for joining us. Nice friend of me, Dr. Drew. So this Alpha-Gal study that Nick Holstrup put together, I'll have you open, Peter, and then, Kelly, your comments. Yeah, so AlphaGal's been in the news a lot this year

Starting point is 00:46:15 because there's been many more cases than years past. And it seems like that's kind of been the repeating story that we've seen every summer. And I think a lot of people, first of all, have a natural question, which is what is alpha-gal? So alpha-gal is a syndrome. Alpha-gal itself is a carbohydrate that's found in mammalian cell membranes. So it's not found in human bodies. We don't have that gene.

Starting point is 00:46:40 But we develop antibodies to it over time from eating meat, primarily red meat. However, the alpha-gal syndrome has seemed to be triggered immediately following a tick bite, particularly with the Texas lone star tick. There is alpha gal carbohydrates in the tick saliva. Pretty gross, but true. And when it bites you, you can get a pretty severe red meat allergy, which can trigger anaphylaxis. So it's a very serious condition that's leave a lot of Americans wondering, why did this happen all of a sudden? So we set out to try to hypothesize some answers. So Nick Holcher, our director of research, the chief medical board and myself, took a long, hard look at this topic. And we found some kind of startling hypotheses that we'd like to test,

Starting point is 00:47:29 namely that the items in our environment that lead to alpha-gal exposure have really proliferated over the years, but perhaps the most troubling one is the use of alpha-gal as a vaccine edge event, which means it helps stimulate the body's immune reaction when the vaccine is taken. And the hypothesis that we would like others to test and further research would be, does the body actually get heightened sensitivity to alpha-gal from vaccines so that when that tick bite comes, it can trigger a severe immune reaction? Because alpha-gal is not meant to be absorbed in the body through the bloodstream

Starting point is 00:48:06 as in the vaccine or tick-bite rather through the GI tract. Dr. Victor, do you have anything to add on to that? I'm going to let her comment just a second. Is Alpha-Gal, did they start throwing it in to try to subsidize? for mercury or aluminum or other things? No. No. Is it always been there?

Starting point is 00:48:22 No, it's because they've used gelatin. Geloton is, you know, commonly included in almost all vaccines. And it turns out that the gelatin they're using is primarily bovine from cow or porcine from pigs. It's a gelatin. Well, the problem is that there's alpha-gal in that gelatin. So if you look at the childhood vaccine schedule, for example, and you're injecting somebody over and over and over again, independent of all the other stuff that might be in there, aluminum, God forbid, mercury, other things that might be in there.

Starting point is 00:49:00 Not sure what that was. There might be, you're getting small amounts of gelatin that also has the alpha-gallonate. So as Peter was saying, we don't know if just getting all of these vaccines over a period of our lifetime, makes you sensitive enough that it takes one little tiny tick bite to actually set off the whole syndrome, or if you don't need the tick bite at all, it's possible, Drew, given the numbers of the huge increase we're seeing in alpha-gal syndrome, if in fact it's simply the vaccines themselves, not tick bites, vaccines that are inducing alpha-gal syndrome by sensitizing people to this sacride, this carbohydrate that Peter was talking about in the same way that

Starting point is 00:49:49 is certainly possible that peanut allergies have been induced by vaccines because some vaccines included small amounts of peanut oil. So, you know, injecting people with this into their into the muscle or into the bloodstream or subcutaneously where it's picked up by the blood can end up inducing an allergy to someone. And it's a pretty big, deep. It's a big enough deal when it's peanuts. It's a bigger deal when it's all meat products, not just beef, but also pork and some dairy products as well. So it's a big deal.

Starting point is 00:50:24 And I think more importantly than any of this is the fact that we at the wellness company are asking these questions. You know, we are not a research agency per se. But what we are is a group of scientists, physicians, epidemiologists, people with inquisitive minds who are saying, interesting, look at this that's going on, a massive uptake in the incidence of alpha-gal syndrome, maybe the other authorities, maybe people who have a vested interest in other things, are looking at the wrong thing. Maybe tick bites aren't the only cause. Maybe it's not just the lone star tick. Maybe it's something else like vaccines.

Starting point is 00:51:06 And you know, we at wellness just try to ask good questions, questions that people aren't asking but should be. And again, as I was saying, when Jessica was in here, it's just odd to me that a scientific question would have clandestine, sort of feel clandestine anybody or partisan to anybody. It's the weirdest thing in the world to me. Can I beg your guys' indulgence for about five minutes? I have a special guest that just dropped in. And I want to talk about, well, I know you're seeing it, Kelly. I want to talk about wellness care. And I need, I need the time to do that. But Royce White has dropped in on us and she's my hero. She's my new hero. I figured so. So give me just, and you can comment after I talk to her. So if you guys will indulge me for 10 minutes,

Starting point is 00:51:53 Royce White joining us now. You can follow this. Royce, I'll specify, I don't want to specify you have to tell me how you like to be identified in terms of your pronouns. Royce is on Instagram Highway underscore 30. Royce was an NBA player and is now interested in joining the WNBA. How shall I address you? Well, I'm sometimes identifying as a black trans lesbian. You can call me Royce. That's my new name. You've dead named me. But it's okay. We go way back. I'm sorry. The people who I know have a good relationship with, I give them some grace on my new name. and my pronouns are pay me yeah yeah no my pronouns are pay me okay okay and I'm wondering you know I saw one of the I guess was Sophie Cunningham's coach was talking about how kindness was going to prevail in the WNBA

Starting point is 00:53:02 she of course told everyone to F off when she finished her comments but okay I'm wondering if you were being received kindly by the WNBA hierarchy? Well, not so far. I mean, they've almost completely denied my trans existence. And I think that's tantamount to genocide. It's hateful. It's harmful to my fellow trans, bipoc trans, trans-adjacent, activists, and everybody else up and down the line who have put in so much time, effort and sacrifice to uplift and make

Starting point is 00:53:36 safe trans people. So the WMBA is all but denied my existence. And again, that's tantamount to genocide. And do you have a plan to address this genocide? Well, we plan on holding the WMBA to all of the values they say that they, you know, that they hold dear to their organization. Yeah, we plan on holding them to their word. They put kindness above everything else. Their tolerance, their tolerance, mostly their inclusivity.

Starting point is 00:54:08 Their inclusivity is probably the big one. Right, right. Everybody needs to be included. And that would surely include me as well, right? Of course, of course. And others are following in your footsteps. I feel like you've empowered others to follow along. Are there others with whom you are getting together to sort of address this collectively? I'm talking to a lot of people. There's been an outpour of support behind the scenes. Now, how people support a black, trans, lesbian publicly is still a work in person. progress, but there's a lot of support behind the scenes. And I just think we're going through a reality test right now. You know, what is up, what is down? No, no, you know, what is real,

Starting point is 00:54:52 what is fake? Is this my hair? I mean, I paid for it, but does that mean it's mine? And does it mean it's mine in a way that could be equated to growing it myself? And, you know, there's a lot of ambiguity in life. And I think that ambiguity is the gateway to freedom and liberty. and that's why I'm, you know, gender ambiguous and gender fluid. And I think it's a good thing. Roycia, I am delighted to hear the U.A. Freedom Fighter. I think I fully support your efforts, your campaign. I feel like my reality is being tested as well.

Starting point is 00:55:30 And there's something about you, Roycia, that I find interesting in still pictures. And you tell me if I'm being. if this is offensive or if this is supportive. And I'm just observing. You look very almost like a religious figure in your still pictures. Has anybody else said that? And I mean that only as just an observation and a compliment. Well, thank you.

Starting point is 00:55:58 I appreciate that. I'm certainly a Christian still. Yeah, I'm a pro-life Christian, black trans, lesbian. Sometimes I identify as a black trans lesbian for basketball purposes. and it's a high compliment. Thank you. And you're a superstar, you know, your household name. So I appreciate that from you, sir.

Starting point is 00:56:16 Well, Roysha, you've been intriguing to me from the beginning. And I really was delighted to hear that you were going to stop by and talk to me. We are, I am interested in following this story and supporting it. And I do think that leaning in is a great strategy these days to try to find out where reality is and is not. and I think you're having an interesting impact. To see you playing in the WNBA would be a fascinating experiment. Do you worry, and this is not meant to be inflammatory to your efforts, but do you worry that you might hurt somebody out there on the floor?

Starting point is 00:57:01 Well, I mean, again, it's back to basic reality testing. Does in here, so far as I've come to learn, I'm new in the trans community, but so far as I've come to learn, you know, sex does not proceed from biology and genitalia does not determine gender. My trans affirming doctor has recently told me that I could think of my genitalia. That's, you know, how it was at birth as about a little over nine inches of clitoris. So, you know, we're in a whole new world, right? And I could hurt somebody, but you could argue that I'm helping evolve the game. for the women and making them a little bit tougher, you know, and maybe, and who could even argue?

Starting point is 00:57:43 You know, like, some things are about money in our society. Money is the organizing principle in our culture, right? If I play in the WMBA and other trans people, it's going to be more entertaining, more value. It means going to be a better commodity. We're going to have better ticket prices, more TV audience, bigger TV audiences, and ultimately, women will get paid more. So I'm actually doing the gender pay gap in the WMBA a huge service. But we used to think there are some things that transcend money. Some things used to transcend money. I don't know if we have those barriers anymore in society.

Starting point is 00:58:21 Well, you certainly are gender affirming in your gender identification as pay me. So, Russia, I will thank you for visiting us and explaining your position. and I hope you'll stop back in again as this evolves and give us your thoughts. Thank you. Prussia. We'll see you soon. Again, the Instagram is at Highway underscore 30. Okay, let me bring back in Dr. Kelly and Peter Galooly.

Starting point is 00:58:58 I have to comment for one second. Well, I have to comment because I have said, and have been on the record, on this for years. It was going to take some strong, confident, formerly male professional athletes to stand up and call out this fallacy for what it is. I really love what Roycia and Ennis Cantor Freedom are doing. They are pointing out the idiocy, the absolute hypocrisy of what's happening in women's sports. And frankly, we would never have the travesty of Leah Thomas the transgender swimmer, if we had some really strong Olympic level formerly male swimmers, decide, you know, really come into their femininity and embrace their trans womanhood and go and crush Leah Thomas like a bug.

Starting point is 00:59:53 So I did these guys. Did I, did I, did I, did I, is there anything you wish I'd asked Russia? No, I just, no, I think what he's doing, which she, excuse me, my, my apologies, Russia. but what she is doing. What pay is doing. Pay is doing. Pay me. What pay me is doing.

Starting point is 01:00:09 So, yeah. So the WMBA has painted themselves into their own tight little corner. It'll be interested in to see how it works out. Wellness care, guys. Wellness care is a good chance to talk about helping people again through this. What I think is something that's been a long time coming. And Kelly, you're supervising it. Peter, you've been a, I assume you were part of the inventor of this idea.

Starting point is 01:00:38 I am a wholehearted enthusiast. So who wants to discuss it? Peter, may talk about where it came from and what it's addressing. And then Kelly, the execution. Yeah, wellness care is the first direct-to-patient chronic care management company in the United States. Chronic Care Management is actually this kind of niche program that was formed by CMS, the centers for Medicare, a little over a decade ago, meant to help Medicare patients with everything that happens in between visits. So everything from working with the caretakers to coordinating with their doctors to doing medicine reconciliation

Starting point is 01:01:17 and making sure that the patients are able to accurately recognize their symptoms and make sure that things are escalated in a timely fashion. And there's been studies that have shown these vast savings in cost. for the health care system for patients that have chronic disease that are using chronic care management services, as well as better outcomes. And that should come as no surprise when you have somebody that you can rely on week in and week out to talk through symptoms, changes in your health, how you're feeling every day. It's no surprising that you're actually going to likely avoid catastrophe. And that's really what we set out to do with wellness care. And Kelly, you know, it's really stepping into the role of primary care that has been thoroughly eviscerated in this country.

Starting point is 01:02:09 You know, that Clancy murder case where she killed her kids in a psychotic state and stuff, to me, when you look at the medical stuff in that, it's again, there's nobody there. There's no team there. There's all this sort of fragmented service. and 30 different pharmaceuticals being prescribed, and no one knows why the previous prescriber prescribed what they did. This is not health care. Right.

Starting point is 01:02:34 It should be no news to anybody watching or listening today that we really have a highly fragmented health care system and the people who have paid the price or the patients. 80% of Americans have at least one chronic condition, by which I mean diabetes, hypertension, kidney disease, cancer, arthritis, depression, obesity. 60% have two or more chronic conditions. And the problem is that even the most dedicated patient sees his or her doctor twice a year

Starting point is 01:03:06 at best. And during the other six months between visits, things fall through the cracks. So even if you're a highly motivated diabetic who checks his or her blood sugar, you know, once a day or twice a day and records it, you know, on a piece of paper, that's not management. you don't then see your doctor again for six months. And all of that data, all of those opportunities to intervene and improve your care, improve your health outcomes are lost.

Starting point is 01:03:36 So what we are doing with chronic condition management, CCM, otherwise, you know, it was known as disease management some years ago, but CCM is a really hands-on, highly interactive program where patients have an opportunity. They don't get rid of their primary care doctor, but they, have an opportunity to interface regularly, weekly, if not more, with a care professional. Somebody you can say, how are you doing? Let's review your blood sugars. Let's review your blood pressures.

Starting point is 01:04:06 How are you doing with your arthritis? What are you doing for physical activity? Let's talk about your diet and be a health coach. So there's a health coaching component to it. There's also a significant conduit piece where that care pro from wellness care can interface with the patient's primary care doctor and say, you know, Mrs. Johnson's blood pressures aren't really where we want them to be. Maybe you should think about, you know, modifying her medications, or let's get her in sooner than her scheduled appointment, which isn't until, you know, October.

Starting point is 01:04:40 Or, you know, Mr. Johnson is really, you know, not doing well on that antidepressant. He still, you know, feels that he can't get out and be socially interactive, whatever it is. So it's kind of that that part that fills in all of the spaces between the primary care visits, which unfortunately, you know, can be some really long expanses of time. Right. That's right. It's hard to get primary care right now. And if now you're going to see an extender, so to speak. But Peter, you know, CMS does provide resources for rational care. It's just no one's doing it. How did you become aware that this was available? Well, we've had patients that have asked us for a very long time, Drew, can you be my primary care doctor? And that was a very frequent question because as you've talked about at length on the show before, the state of primary care in the United States today is dreadful. It's really hard. And to Dr. Victory's point, for many people, two appointments a year isn't enough.

Starting point is 01:05:43 And the duration of those appointments is what? Maybe eight to ten minutes sometimes, right? You're not getting a whole lot of them. So we were really seeking out ways that we could do this. And we found this program under Medicare. And we were just kind of dumbfounded originally. How is nobody doing this? It's covered under Medicare.

Starting point is 01:06:03 If you have either traditional Medicare or Medicare Advantage PPO, it's free. It's included in your benefits. You've already paid for it. So we thought, look, the way to do this is to bring it to the masses. And to your question, why hasn't this been done? well, the only other companies that have really looked at this have been kind of like branches of a hospital, right? And let's face it, hospitals, they make their money off of patients being hospitalized, right? This is the opposite of that.

Starting point is 01:06:29 Our goal is to keep you out of the hospital. So it doesn't really go with their business model. It kind of ended up looking to most organizations sort of like an added cost and kind of something that was just too far from their core business to really make sense and investing into it. But for us, we saw a real opportunity in the market to make. a meaningful difference in many, many people's lives. The other group, the other group, go ahead. I was to say the other group that sort of has dabbled in this, in addition to hospitals, has been insurance companies.

Starting point is 01:06:58 They certainly have a vested interest in making sure that you are, use less, you know, fewer resources, so they pay less money. The problem is they haven't done it in a way that's in any way engaging. You may have noticed if you've started a new medication or had a new diagnosis, it's an office visit or something, then you get a follow-up letter from, you know, Edna or Anthem or whoever it is saying, oh, you know, we, we realize you have been diagnosed with hypertension, you know, read this pamphlet. You know, that is not disease management.

Starting point is 01:07:30 Disease management is having a phone call with somebody, having somebody who knows your name, who knows your kids' names, who knows what you're struggling with, who knows sort of, you know, where your stumbling blocks are. And so I think the way. way that we are approaching it at wellness care is very, very integrative and hands-on and high touch so that you have numbers of people you can reach out to. We're providing people with remote patient monitoring, meaning, you know, blood pressure cuffs, scales, you know, glucometers, so that we can get more data fed to us as care

Starting point is 01:08:11 providers and can help to these people to navigate those rough waters and very lonely waters sometimes between doctor visits. So I've got to wrap up right now. I want to give you guys each a chance to sort of discuss Peter in particular where we're going at wellness and what you want people to know about that. And Kelly, I'll let you, you and I have covered a wide range of material today. I'll let you have final comments after Peter Galilee. Yeah, the Welles Company, it's kind of amazing to me that we just passed our four-year anniversary.

Starting point is 01:08:48 Time really flies. But I really believe that, you know, the best and brains is still ahead of us at this point. Obviously, I know many of the audience here has really gravitated towards a medical emergency kits. I think our goal is for every American to have one of these in their homes at some point. But there's many other things that we haven't addressed yet through that we're going to. We're looking hard at bringing hormones to Americans. We're looking hard at doing personalized supplements for Americans. We're looking hard at bringing this chronic care management service to the masses at a cost-effective price so that anybody, regardless of whether or not you're on Medicare, has the ability to have a care professional that they can talk through for their medical needs.

Starting point is 01:09:30 So all those things are coming in the second half here of 2026. I'm just really excited to see them launch. Well, thank you for your stewardship. It's been a remarkable experience. Kelly. Yeah, what I would say is that wellness care really, I have a hard time fitting it into a bucket. We certainly are not primarily a retailer, as many people think, selling products, whether it's supplements or even the medical kits.

Starting point is 01:09:56 We are in large part now a care provider, not only with what we do at wellness care, providing that chronic care management piece that so few Americans on Medicare have taken advantage of, but also being that piece I was referring to when we were talking about the Alpha-Gal study, being a group of independent clinicians, practitioners, scientists, and entrepreneurs who are willing to say, wow, this part of the system's broken, wildly broken. What can we do to address it? How can we ask the right questions? How can we possibly get research dollars to help us to fund a study or to fund the development of a product, whether it's to address, you know, vaccine injured people, people with hormonal issues, people who are traveling and don't have access to medications, whatever it is. So it's really where standard health care met sort of the brick wall that was exposed during COVID and said, we can do this a better. way. We can go back to what and if nothing else help to restore the trust, the confidence, and the independence of the health care system and provide a real value to patients in the process.

Starting point is 01:11:14 I think we had to write that down as our manifesto. I think that was well said. But thank you both for being here. It was an interesting day. It's not a usual day for us that we will start doing some Friday's coming up. And thank for all the work, both you do. Thanks, Joe. And if we have doctor.com slash QC, if you guys want to look further into the products that are there. Like I said, I have a contagion kit right here.

Starting point is 01:11:44 And there it is. These are what they look like. So if you're interested in some of the things that are available to you, and telehealth visit, we'll guide you through. All right. So, interesting day. A lot of material, a lot of twists and turns. I appreciate Roycea stopping by to give us pay me thoughts.

Starting point is 01:12:03 Am I getting that right, Caleb? I think so. That's the pronoun. Pay's thoughts. One of those. Pay me's thoughts. Sheldier Prang and Bob Forrest in on Tuesday. Jim Thorpe coming by to talk about also he's in high risk OB and he's part of the TWC board,

Starting point is 01:12:20 medical board. He's going to talk about what he has been seeing in terms of the clinically in terms of the the controversy around miscarriages. Salty Cracker on the 20th. Hard for me to see at this distance, all this stuff, but I know we have lots of great guests. And Kelly and I have been going, Emily Barsh and I have been going back and forth

Starting point is 01:12:41 on a lot of great ideas that are out there. And she just keeps coming up with wonderful guests and delivering. And today was no exception. So I believe Tuesday at 2 o'clock, let me make sure I'm getting that correct. And then I think we're doing a Wednesday, next week. Hey, Caleb, did you hear me talk to doing this on the air right now rather than

Starting point is 01:13:02 on the phone? But what I said to Sam, the caller, about getting in front of Maha, about having some sort of regular presentation for the support groups for the vaccine injured. It seems like something that they would be interested in doing and willing to do. Even more so. And if there's anybody, she's already with the right people. I think what was it, React 19, that's the group that we've been talking to for many years that is helping people who are injured by this. So through that and also, I can get her in touch with Maha. Yeah, I mean, if Redfield would stop in there

Starting point is 01:13:38 or I'm trying to think of some of the other people in the Maha Action Group, Dr. Ah, I should be willing to stop by there and talk about, you know, where would we, you know, here are the resources that are available to you all. So yeah, if we could organize something like that, I think we'll have done something very, very good. Because I worry that throwing money at something like that,

Starting point is 01:13:56 it's going to end up corrupted and not going to help these people. While if we educate them about what is available, empower them to go after that based on their own impulses and research and again, what's available to them, I think will be much better than some kind of massive outlay that just ends up fueling an NGO or something or God knows what. I just worry about government solving problems like this. Yes, they need to get into the unfucket business,

Starting point is 01:14:25 but not by just throwing money at it. Well, yeah, and for some reason, like, it needs to be studied why people can hear dozens and dozens and hundreds of stories and still be, like, dismiss it. No, no, it has to be something other than the one thing all of these people have in common. Like, they completely discounted. Well, but you remember, we had, I think the source is what we discussed to Romio Gender

Starting point is 01:14:49 about, was it yesterday or a day before, which was it's so poorly characterized in terms of a measurable profile, however you want to define that, whether it's a questionnaire of symptom complexes, or they've just not done the work yet to characterize the syndrome. And I believe that Bruce Patterson and you got Bromogentra, I feel like so much material was covered today. And I hope you all listened. I hope you will look at the clips and revisit some of this stuff.

Starting point is 01:15:27 Let me look at you guys on the restream. You know, I couldn't hear the cable buzzing today, Caleb. You kept asking me to adjust my microphone, and it wasn't on my end, weirdly. It was very low. I could hear the rumble start, and I wanted to fix it before it got too far on air. Okay, so maybe that's what it was. Okay, we appreciate y'all being here. Thank you, Emily Barsh.

Starting point is 01:15:48 Thank you, Caleb. Thank you, Susan, for producing this all, and we will see you Tuesday at 2 o'clock. Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Caleb Nation and Susan Pinsky. Emily Barsh is our content producer. As a reminder, the discussions here are not a substitute for medical care, diagnosis, or treatment. This show is intended for educational and informational purposes only. I am a licensed physician, but I am not a replacement for your personal doctor and I am not practicing medicine here. Always remember that our understanding of medicine and science is constantly evolving,

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