Ask Dr. Drew - Naomi Wolf: 300 Percent Rise of COVID Deaths in Pregnant Women During Delta Appears To Implicate Vaccine-Associated Enhanced Disease (VAED) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 315

Episode Date: January 27, 2024

Researchers at Naomi Wolf’s Daily Clout analyzed data from the American Medical Association’s 2021 maternal mortality report – and found alarming signs of harm to pregnant women and a disturbing increase of deaths during the Delta wave. “1,205 mothers who died in or within forty-two days of pregnancy in 2021, 429 had Covid-19 on the death certificate as either the primary or a contributing cause—a 321 percent increase in Covid pregnancy deaths from the first wave in 2020,” writes Dr. Pierre Kory & Mary Beth Pfeiffer on DailyClout.io. “By comparison, total Covid deaths in the United States rose a relatively modest 20 percent—one-fifteen as much as in pregnant women.” Naomi Wolf is a bestselling author, columnist, and professor. She is recognized as one of the world’s most influential feminist writers. Wolf is a Rhodes Scholar, a graduate of Yale University, and received a doctorate from Oxford. She has written eight bestselling works of nonfiction, including The Beauty Myth, Give Me Liberty, and The End of America, and is co-founder and CEO of civic tech company https://DailyClout.io. Follow her at https://twitter.com/naomirwolf 「 SPONSORED BY 」 Find out more about the companies that make this show possible and get special discounts on amazing products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors • COZY EARTH - Susan and Drew love Cozy Earth's sheets & clothing made with super-soft viscose from bamboo! Use code DREW for a huge discount at https://drdrew.com/cozy • PROVIA - Dreading premature hair thinning or hair loss? Provia uses a safe, natural ingredient (Procapil) to effectively target the three main causes of premature hair thinning and hair loss. Susan loves it! Get an extra discount at https://proviahair.com/drew • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley • GENUCEL - Using a proprietary base formulated by a pharmacist, Genucel has created skincare that can dramatically improve the appearance of facial redness and under-eye puffiness. Get an extra discount with promo code DREW at https://genucel.com/drew • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your personal physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. 「 ABOUT DR. DREW 」 Dr. Drew is a board-certified physician with over 35 years of national radio, NYT bestselling books, and countless TV shows bearing his name. He's known for Celebrity Rehab (VH1), Teen Mom OG (MTV), The Masked Singer (FOX), multiple hit podcasts, and the iconic Loveline radio show. Dr. Drew Pinsky received his undergraduate degree from Amherst College and his M.D. from the University of Southern California, School of Medicine. Read more at https://drdrew.com/about Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey, welcome everybody. We've got Naomi Wolf coming back today. She, of course, is a best-selling author, professor, influential feminist writer from back, also a Rhodes Scholar, graduate of Yale, doctorate from Oxford. Best-selling works include The Beauty Myth. That's the one that she is most noted for. Give Me Liberty and The End of America, more recently. Co-founder and CEO of civic tech company Daily Clout. There's the, is this another one? Facing the Beast? Did I not put that one in there? That's the latest one. Her latest book. The latest one.

She's very prolific. All right. There's Courage, Faith, and Resistance in a New Dark Age. We'll get into that and more. We're watching you, of course, on the Restream and over the Rumble Rants. Appreciate y'all being here. We'll get to it in just a second. Our laws as it pertains to substances are draconian and bizarre. A psychopath started this. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction,

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You can follow Naomi at DailyCloud.io. Also on X, Naomi R. Wolf. And let's see that schedule if you've got that. Upcoming Stanhope and his wife bingo in here tomorrow. Jim Brewer the next day, we're going with the comedians for a couple of days. Then Joseph Lattipo comes back

really soon. Roseanne, Alex Berenson, and people keep asking about Dr. Kelly Victory. She is fine and she is returning on Valentine's Day as is Alex Berenson at that time if you guys have suggestions that people you'd like to see us interview you'd like to hear from on this program

set it up it just let us hear from you at contact at dr.com susan is the one checking all that stuff out as i said uh naomi facing the beast courage faith and resistance in a new dark age just the latest book she is uh recognized as an influential feminist writer back since being a Rhodes Scholar, Yale University, doctorate from Oxford, and the Beauty Myth being a foundational document that she produced. And she has some new data she wants to go over, but I got a lot of things I want to talk to Naomi about. So please welcome Naomi Wolf. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you so much for having me back, Dr. Drew. Of course.

So, Naomi, I want to, before we get into the new data you've had lately, I want to walk down a couple of roads with you just to set this all up. People seem confused about who you are and what your training is. So let's just get that out there. What was your degree at Oxford? Let me first say I'm not a medical doctor. I mean, that's my bio. And you're not a biologist, not a medical doctor, not a medical researcher, but you're a writer. You're a writer, right?

And you're a researcher of sorts, correct? I mean, you're used to pouring through a lot of research to do your writing. Sure, of course. I mean, I'm a nonfiction writer. My focus has been women's issues, including medical issues. I wrote a book about childbirth in America. I wrote a book about eating disorders, breast implants, cosmetic surgery from a medical perspective. And I wrote a book about female

sexuality. And so I'm often focused on women's health issues. But I'm also focused on civil liberties and the rule of law and democracy and freedom. So a lot of my other books have to do with, you know, the threat to liberty that I began worrying about actually in 2007 with my book, The End of America. And the last two books I wrote have been about what I see as a kind of global coup using public health as a pretext. But let me speak to what I think you may be asking, if I may. Right now, I'm heavily involved in research, but this is the role I play. I oversee in my company a project, but it's actually under the leadership day-to-day of my extraordinary COO, Amy Kelly, who's project director. And she's a Six Sigma project manager. And she is overseeing six groups of what amount to 3,250 doctors and scientists

and biostatisticians and medical fraud investigators, RNs, pharmacists, people from many, many backgrounds related to healthcare research. And they are going over the Pfizer documents, the 450,000 documents released under court order. And they have produced now 94 reports, which are all up on our website. You can order them in a book form. And when I bring findings about the Pfizer documents to the world, which I've been doing for the last two years, I'm literally the messenger for their reports. I'm helping, I help them to write them in a way that everyone will understand. That's my talent. And then I explain what they found to the world. And then do you give an opportunity for feedback or, you know, like a peer review kind of process? I mean, that's sort of the back and forth that normally goes on with scientific publication.

Is that part of the process or is that done before you push it out? Well, the group themselves have a process of verification, of course. And in now about 700 pages of reports, I think they've made one mistake, which we immediately publicly corrected. But I'm proud to say that they've also had their findings published in a peer-reviewed journal. In fact, they found a very important, huge story, which was that Pfizer had delayed reporting deaths of eight people who died after having been injected with the vaccine, and they delayed unlawfully so as to get their emergency use authorization. They hid the deaths. And if they hadn't hid the deaths, they would not have gotten the emergency use authorization. So that's

a very big bombshell finding. And it was published in a peer-reviewed publication. And then the Epoch Times covered that. So that's, and of course, they want to continue to submit to peer-reviewed publications, but that's the nature of what they're producing at this point. Is there anything that they have known, when you said they got one thing wrong, we had to put that out there, what was that? Sure. So one of the volunteers analyzed a table and thought that there was a 44% miscarriage or spontaneous abortion rate in one section of the documents. And in fact, she made a mistake in her math, but the true number was over 80%. And I think people would understand you're worrying about freedoms of various type in our current era.

What were you seeing in 2007 that got you worked up? I was blissfully ignorant at that point. Those were the days, right? Before we knew how deep the rot could go. Well, I guess I, you know, I'm blessed and cursed to be very alert to the signs of impending fascism because I've read a lot of history because of my training as an English literature scholar. You literally read back memoirs and diaries and journals for 400 or 500 years, at least in Britain and America and Western Europe. And so I was aware because of my reading how easily and how quickly fragile democracies like Germany in the 30s, for instance, or Italy in the 20s could descend into fascism. You know, reading Orwell,

reading, you know, books like Victor Klemper, I will bear witness just day to day observing, you know, a Jewish literature professor, observing day to day the changes around him as the Nazis came to power. But I also, for my book, The End of America, I looked systematically at times and places in history in which fragile democracies got overthrown or subverted and became fascist or totalitarian dictatorships. And as a result of that study, I identified 10 steps that fascists or tyrants always take in that process. And I realized that we were moving along that process, even in 2007. So for instance, that was the Bush era, but it carried on into the Obama era.

And I was one of like maybe six liberals in the Obama years, continuing to try to warn people about this. But for example, I mean, Bush Jr. wanted to have a gulag in Guantanamo beyond the rule of law. He wanted to hold people without charge of trial. He was targeting critics.

He had kind of an enemies list. He wanted to torture people unlawfully. He was justifying torture. He wanted to create a surveillance society. The Espionage Act, you know, all the, you know, the reviving of the Espionage Act targeting Julian Assange, the Patriot Act, which was ushered in, of course, after 9-11. All of those bills were very much like the Enabling Act in 1933 that gave the state powers to minutely surveil civil society and free citizens. He was all about that.

And he wanted to create a situation called the global war on terror in which normal checks and balances of our laws did not apply. Well, that's step 10, which is martial law or emergency law. So as a result of having written that book and then Obama carrying it on with like droning American citizens and building out Guantanamo instead of closing it, this trend just continued. And then it's escalated, of of course the last four years dramatically do you know you see i think you use the word tyrants use these 10 steps it it feels like we have rolled down this path sort of synthetically i are not like you know without some uh uh individual mind behind it it's just, we had a terror attack. We got to do something.

And then we got to do this. And it's just these reactions that occur. Then it seems like when somebody not so good steps in, you got a bunch of problems. Yeah, I really appreciate that. You've noticed that because I often say history is not moving organically right now. And what you just described is the way history usually moves. It's like a person, a leader emerges, a popular sentiment comes to the fore. It's unpredictable, but that's not where we're at right now. For sure, there's a program. I mean, you saw it rolled out around the world,

and this is the subject of my last two books, but especially Facing the Beast, my latest book, all around the world, all at the same time, there was emergency law, which is step 10, as I mentioned. All around the world, there were efforts to surveil people, the vaccine passport being one of the sneakiest efforts that were underway. But central bank digital currency and digital ID are also new ways to surveil people. All around the world, you saw restrictions on what had been previous guarantees of human autonomy, which is informed consent, medical freedom. That's been the law around the world since the Nuremberg trials. The Nuremberg Code, you know, guarantees informed consent. That was withdrawn. You saw

here in New York State, from where I'm broadcasting, our governor, Kathy Hochul, keeps trying to pass regulations to build quarantine camps. And I've read the regulations. There are similar regulations they're trying to push through in Washington State, where you can be held if you've been exposed to a bloodborne pathogen. And there's no judicial review. There's really no way you can get yourself out, not even good behavior or showing that you're not infected. And they can, you know, this was appealed by Bobbie Ann Cox, a lawyer, and she just kept going. She's, you know, she's fighting the appeal. So she's determined to open quarantine camps. And in Australia, they have quarantine camps where people, including senators, are held. And in China, they have quarantine camps where people kind of get disappeared. So this is all rolling out all at the same time. I mean, I could go on and on. Mandates, that's not even a law. The president doesn't have the power to declare that people can lose their jobs if they don't take something into their bodies.

But we saw that. A mandate isn't a law. It's not part of our system of laws, our democracy. It's what tyrants do. They mandate what they want their outcome to be. And so let me dial back a little bit and talk about the fact that you said that this is not the normal sort of way history unfolds. Though, are there other periods that have unfolded in a similar fashion? Because I've been preoccupied with a model lately, but what is your position on that? That's really interesting.

That's very much the important question to ask. You know, people have been conditioned, and usually good people, polite people, to say something like, well, I really don't want to trivialize the Holocaust by comparing these times to that. But, and honestly, as a deep student of the Holocaust and, you know, descendant of a woman who lost nine brothers and sisters in the Holocaust, those are, that's so much is parallel to that time. So much is parallel. One really, so much so that, and I pointed this out in, you know, even going back to the end of America, so much so that the people who are orchestrating history right now have read the history of the Nazis' ascent to power, for sure. Because, for instance,

it's not well known, they're reprising certain things that worked really well at that time. One thing they're reprising, well, you know, there were health passports at that time, you know, that created a surveillance society. But also, one of the first ways that Nazi ideology, even before 1933, when the Nazis officially were the majority in parliament, they weaponized public health, and they specifically weaponized doctors and professional medical organizations, so that if you aligned with national socialist ideology as a physician, you did much better, you got perks, you got sinecures, you got advanced, you know, money flowed your way. And if you challenged the rising ideology of national

socialism, you got marginalized, It was difficult to practice, you know, exactly what we're seeing now. And using doctors who were thus kind of lulled into and flattered into being the advanced tip of the spear, right, for this ideology. And in a beautiful language, it was like, you know, social hygiene and social purity and social cleanliness. Of course, people like us of our descent were the infectious, you know, we were the infections, right? There was this discourse of infectious disease and Jews and homosexuals and, you know, disabled people were a cancer or an infection on the pure Aryan body of society. What then happened was that they were doctors were tasked with um identifying life unworthy of life or useless eaters and this was way before the death camps this was death camps were like 1941 to 1945 this was like 1930 before 1933 but i but you had said that there is not

necessarily well i i was saying we sort of fumbled our way into this current situation. And that suggests to me that it was just people reacting rather than people planning. And to me, the French Revolution was a little closer to all that, where there was just one thing, then another thing, and another thing. And then, oh my goodness, another thing. And then they go too far, and then they backlash, and they go too far again, and they bring out the guillotine. It just rolled. It rolled and rolled and rolled, and it kept rolling. And I don't know, this feels more like that.

I do, though, worry. I know you see sinister intent here and there. Certainly the World Health Organization and their grab at power is gravely, gravely conserving. Talk to me about that. Yeah. I definitely misunderstood what you said then because I when it comes to the World Health Organization. I mean, I've been raising these alarms based on my reading of fascism introducing itself for two years now. And literally every single thing I've predicted has come true. And I'm not proud of that. It's just

that it's a very predictable map that these people use in order to get where they want to go. So the World Health Organization, of course, has this treaty, which I guess in the UK, they're calling it a cord, which is a friendlier word. And it basically drains sovereignty of every signatory nation. And of course, I think we've talked about this, or I've talked about it many places. Once you no longer have sovereignty, anything can be done to you. You're really not a citizen anymore. You have no rights as a citizen. And if the World Health Organization says there's disease X, and I think it's so fascinating and predictable, again, that there's this drumbeat from Davos of disease X, we need the pandemic accord for disease X.

Disease X can be anything. If there's a flare-up of Ebola, disease X. If there's tuberculosis, disease X. But they can declare it. And they were very good at declaring things that proved to be unverifiable in the last pandemic and tell us that it's too dangerous to go outside. So once again, we'll be dependent on digital media for any sense of reality. And then they'll just zip through the treaty. And once that happens, it can be mercenaries from the WHO, you know, patrolling our streets or arresting us for, you know, exposure to a bloodborne pathogen

or for thought crimes or for, you know, being insufficiently respectful of public health demands. I noticed another direction they seem to be going. At the World Economic Forum today, there was a guy lectured on the need for international coordination on CO2 limits. And I thought, oh, all they have to do is declare that a health problem and done and done.

And they have full sovereign authority over everybody at that point. And then they want to get rid of coffee. They want to get rid of coffee and meat and all kinds of things. And oh yeah, coffee was a target yesterday. And it just, I know Susan's offended now. Now she's worried. Not my coffee.

And yeah, it is, again, the more centralized, the more potential for shenanigans i i just am very very worried about that trend especially in medicine where the only efficient unit i say it over and over is the patient physician that's your unit anything you put on top of that is an inefficiency and an adulteration so uh you've got some new data, and let's kind of go through that if you're ready for it. This is out of the Pfizer system, or is this out of VAERS? I think what you're talking about today is the article we published, Ask Why 429 Moms Died. And that came out on January 18th of this year. And that's actually written by Dr. Pierre Corey and Mary Beth Pfeiffer.

And we republished it and they interviewed our volunteers for some of the argument that they made. Yeah. And so what they found, and this is a very concerning chart here. I don't know if your producer has it. You can see it pretty well.

We do. We have a full graph. Yes, you can see that. So that was early 21, right? Right. Very weird. And was that in one locality? Well, this is CDC wonder.

So it's all of the United States. U.S. maternal deaths are on a worrisome trajectory, said is CDC wonder. So it's all of the United States. U.S. maternal deaths are on a worrisome trajectory, said the AMA. Pregnancy-related deaths soared 40% in 2021, and we haven't seen maternal deaths of that scale since 1965. and the CDC, according to these authors, left out the crucial context and they analyzed 1,205 mothers who died in or within 42 days of pregnancy in 2021. So 429 had COVID-19 on the death certificate as either the primary or contributing cause, which is a 321% increase in COVID pregnancy deaths from the year before. So what these authors argue is that they're suggesting that COVID didn't just drive these pregnancy deaths, but rather the campaign to vaccinate pregnant women in the heat of the second COVID wave may have combined to make infections worse in the vaccinated. The phenomenon often minimized as quote, breakthrough infection is

called vaccine associated enhanced disease or BADE, B-A-E-D, and it's been documented in other diseases. So that's their argument. I would add to that, again, not being a medical doctor, what I've learned and what I discussed on your show in the previous clip, that in vaccinated women, there are, we've now seen problems with placentas. And when you've got problems with your placenta, when it's not intact, when it's compromised with calcifications, as Dr. Thorpe has shown with his sonograms, and we independently confirmed with two separate midwives at two separate birthing centers, that is a condition, of course, you know, that takes you back to pre-modern childbirth in which there are things like hemorrhages and, and, and ruptures, you know, in the course of delivering your baby or, or the placenta not being fully, fully delivered.

So I want to get back to the study that Pierre Corey put out there. So the implication is it's COVID plus vaccine that caused those deaths, right? That's what they're arguing. And do we have vaccine

status on those women? Is that documented? Yes. Well, they found that I believe 48 percent of them had been vaccinated huh so it's more than 400 women right uh less a little less than half half faxed and half and this is i mean of the of the women that died right of the women that correct of the group that died yeah which? Correct. Of the group that died. Of the women that died. Yeah. Which was, again, multiples the usual number of women who died from pregnancy.

Did we have... Sorry. Go ahead. Finish your thought. I'm sorry. Yeah. No. I just want to put it in context that women, and this is like, it's going to go down in

history as one of the great crimes at this time. Pregnant women were vaccinated in 2021 into 2022 in a massive propaganda campaign, including payments to the professional organizations that oversaw obstetricians and gynecologists. However, there were no studies on pregnant women showing them safe. Pregnant women were excluded from the COVID-19 vaccine clinical trials and the stated to date on safety of COVID-19 vaccines in pregnancy is limited, said the CDC. And this is them proposing to monitor safety needs from June of 2021. This is the CDC saying there is, quote, an urgent need for outcome data following, emphasis added, use of COVID-19 vaccines in pregnant populations. So these moms died before there were studies showing that this injection was safe in pregnant women. And I

just want to stress again, in the Pfizer documents, there's abundant evidence, more of it came out even since I last spoke to you about this evidence, that the vaccine is incredibly unsafe for pregnant women and fetuses. In fact, in a report that I haven't had a chance to tell you about because we found it after our last show, in which I described this, an eight-page report about pregnancy and lactation, two babies died in utero, and the Pfizer documents describe that as due to, quote, maternal exposure to the vaccine. So they concluded that the vaccine killed those babies. Pfizer did. And when you bring that data up, have you brought it up to the FDA? Have you brought it up to anybody?

And what's the response? Well, we have asked the Justice Department through our lawyers to open a criminal investigation. And there's been silence. We've given all of the data to our lawyers to send to the Justice Department. They have it. We have handed all our evidence to Ken Paxton, the Attorney General in Texas, who's suing Pfizer. I hope he's making good use of it.

We, oh, our volunteers have written to the FDA and not had satisfactory responses of any kind. And, well, I guess one response, when we broke the story about the CDC, Dr. Walensky and the FDA receiving this eight-page report showing that babies had died and that there was a table of sick babies because they knew that the mRNA and spike protein and lipidin and particles

were in breast milk and making babies sick. And there was this table, a pregnancy lactation report, and they sent this summary and babies were like vomiting and they had edema, which is their flesh was swelling. They had convulsions when baby Pfizer documents died of multi-system organ failure from nursing a vaccinated mom. When this eight-page report of the horrors went to the CDC, and we were on War Room talking about it, three days later, Dr. Walensky resigned. Hmm. Interesting. Has Joseph, you made contact with Joseph Freeman at all?

Because he's the one he actually said phone conversations with the fda and they've been pretty sort of astonishing and uh he um well he has a study you know he has a group together uh that is looking into the data and has pulled out some stuff that is concerning and uh the one of the doctors was a pediatric rheumatologist who'd had a kid die a five-year-old died just a few days after vaccine and he'd reported it to the fda and they didn't respond and their reaction was as opposed to saying oh my god there's something terribly wrong we have to get to the bottom of this they went yeah i must have fallen through the cracks we don't we don't we should get kind of get to that and we tend to get to the young kids dying quickly it's it's something's um run amok

something is not quite right um it may not be as bad as you think it is but but something doesn't seem right there's a lot of this is as bad i mean i'm sorry to interrupt Dr. Drew, but there's like, I want to believe for a long time, I wanted to believe this was just a community corporation or busy bureaucrats. They just didn't know. But these charts, I mean, you know, I described this chart of thousands of women having horrific menstrual problems, you know, 15,000 women bleeding every day, 10,000 women bleeding twice a month, 8,000 women hemorrhaging, you know, 5,000 women having no periods at all, meaning they're infertile. This is a, you know, a chart just like the sick babies chart. And, you know,

they fully documented these horrors, the way they were ruining women and babies. And they were looking into them. I mean, something else that happened since we last spoke, if I may, is that one of our lawyers, Ed Berkovich, FOIA, meaning Submitted Freedom of Information Act, demand to the CDC for emails about myocarditis. And we found from the results that Dr. Walensky, Dr. Fauci, the head of the FDA, the White House, 15 communications operatives in the White House in a template to surface this up to the president, were hiding the fact that the Israeli Ministry of Health and pediatricians had told them that they were seeing minors sustaining heart damage, myocarditis, from the vaccine. And this is April of 2021.

Instead of telling Americans and stopping right then, they had a high-level freak-out meeting to create a script, which is 17 pages completely redacted, to lie about minimizing cover-up, myocarditis in teens. And you'll remember that for the rest of 2021, there was a giant propaganda push to get your teenager and young adult vaccinated. That's the part that is so mysterious to me. I'm going to play for you when we get back

from a little break here, Dr. Freeman and his call to the FDA so you can get a sense of what that was like. But the pushing of this, there's so many things that to me should be done a maybe some vaccines directed towards the whole virus as an option so doctors can give patients options and not uh and talk about informed consent of one kind versus another what about uh not vaccinating young people

who are at no risk and talking about the maybe one in 10,000 risk of myocarditis versus one in almost zero risk of the illness itself? How about the rest of the world is not vaccinating children? Why are we doing that? There's just so many,

why not go back and do the research we didn't do during the warp speed period and i'll show you when what dr freeman was looking at was that these observational studies don't replace real randomized controlled trials they don't replace it and you see how confusing it is when you look at these observational data so because it there's there's always a way to parse the data you can always you know break it down to make it sound worse it is or better than it is so let's um let's take a little break and we get back i'll play dr freiman's then and then i want to i want to well do it right now i i want to, well, I'll do it right now. I want to remind everyone that I had to publicly apologize to Naomi because I dismissed the menstruation issue.

But you know what? But it was an important lesson for me on many levels. But one was, oh, that's how we, my profession, treats women's menstruation. It's like, it's like a headache or no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, we make very little of it, very light of it. And you started pointing out how it not just is more than a male can understand. It also is affecting fertility in certain cultures and certain populations and the ability of intimacy between committed part, all this stuff. It had many, many, many layers to it. And so legitimately,

you talk about watching your own Eurocentrism, male centrism, we have to really check ourselves when we're medicine, particularly, because we have a long history of marginalizing women's issues. So go ahead. That was more doctor centrist. No, I was just going to say that was more doctor centrist than male centrist. And I would say, but Dr. Drew, I just want to validate and compliment you. Like the way you behaved and apologizing and taking responsibility for having made a mistake is how everyone in your profession should be behaving right now. And all the scientists who got it wrong or went along with nonsense. And all the leaders who got it wrong

and went along with nonsense. Like, that's what we should be having. And Facebook deals with this. Like, that's the appropriate, ethical, responsible grown-up thing to have done. So you cleaned up your mess and I really respect you for it. Everyone should be following your example.

There is, and there is a guy I was watching who's making the rounds today on Twitter who was from the Cleveland Clinic or something and he was apologizing and talking about how his thinking has changed. And yeah,

I'm trying to get to interview that guy to see what is on his mind. All right, we'll take a little break. Be right back with Dr. Freeman's call with the FDA.

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All right, we're back. We're joined by Naomi Wolf, and we're going to listen to dr frayman's fda call in just a second naomi welcome back it is interesting how slowly people are beginning to admit some of the excesses of the pandemic at least we now know i think the public understands now that the six foot distancing was completely made up i I mean, just out of thin air. Because it's an aerosol transmitted, not a fluid transmitted virus, more like 30 to 60 feet would be necessary. 10 feet was what was recommended.

And apparently a White House flunky said, no, we can never convince anybody to do 10 feet. We'll just go for six. And that's now well-established. It's obvious that that was invented from thin air there's no such thing in any textbook anywhere on earth particularly for an aerosolized respiratory virus so that's the kind of thing that people are beginning to find out it's it'll be interesting to see how far this goes. I mean, how many, like you said, attempts at apologizing for the excesses. I want to go back and talk about your concerns about the limitations of freedom in a second, but let's go down the road of Dr. Freeman's call at the FDA. Caleb, do you have that all set up? Yeah, I have a, this is just a short segment of it. They can see the rest of it on your YouTube channel, but this is what he was talking about here.

We were challenging them on that. If there's surveillance, it is adequate. And one of my co-authors, who's a rheumatologist, a pediatric rheumatologist, he had this to say. It's Patrick Whalen. I'm a UCLA pediatric specialist. This is just an end of one, but February 25th, I filed a VAERS report on a seven-year-old patient who had a cardiac arrest following his first

Pfizer vaccination. It was about 30 hours after he got the vaccine. I didn't receive any follow-up about it. The patient died about eight days later. I submitted another email offering to update the, you know, the report with the death of the patient. It's been two weeks now, I still haven't heard anything. So I'm wondering if there's more extensive surveillance than just fair space surveillance for cases like this. And I would think that if the death of a seven-year-old following the vaccine is not you know meriting uh follow-up either the system is totally overwhelmed or there's there's something wrong with the reporting system and it went on to the the fda guy said essentially well i will have to figure it out we'll take a look at it something fell through the cracks yeah and then the other thing is the when they do identify a possible vaccine reaction this group asked you know how do you determine whether it's related to

the vaccine itself other than just proximity and time and their response was we got a guy we got a guy that goes out and checks it out, and he decides. Which, can you imagine if this were the Vioxx data, and they sent a guy out to determine whether Vioxx was associated with heart disease or not? They would have just, and in particular, if there was any commingling of influence or priorities with Pfizer at that time, the Vioxx would have had nothing to do with the heart. There's only eight cases of the heart attacks after Vioxx that got the whole medication pulled. There's more here, I guess.

Here we go. Does that sound right, Steve? Yeah, but they should be followed up within a matter of days, actually. So just drop me an email or Rich, and then we'll send it to our surveillance group. That's our surveillance group. Drop me an email. I got it.

It did fall through the cracks. Yeah. My guess is, if anything, it's just that they're behind. But I can't believe something like this would fall through the cracks. You can't believe something like this would fall through the cracks. I don't feel like I'm pointing fingers, but I think that the larger issue is...

And just to put that way... That's just one of his... He had many, many startling observations. That was just one. We're going to play the whole FDA call one of these days that he's in Louisiana, so he's able to to record his

phone calls without uh approvals and uh he said there was a lot of astonishing stuff in there and he's been gravely he's a very smart guy he's a very careful researcher and he's been gravely concerned about a lot of things so there's there's reason to be concerned i to me i i where i sort of focus my attention is on these young males i just don't understand i haven't seen a young male get really sick from covid in eight two years uh they just don't they just don't have serious and even when there was alpha delta flying around it was very rare that their covid was in any way life-threatening or even requiring hospitalization though you could

still then make the case for vaccination. And now, let's say it's one of 30,000 risk of myocarditis. Yes, it's a very small risk, but there's no risk of the illness. So to take a small risk when there's no risk makes no sense. And we can no longer say that it is to prevent transmission or prevent infectivity or nothing like that is i don't know what it's doing for these young people and i don't know how to give them informed consent and now i've got a booster that's been called into question by austria austrian data that suggests it might be suppressing immune response as you continue to boost and boost and the variant for which it is designed in my region

were clearly at least four or five variants past that one so i don't know i don't understand what i'm doing and if i don't understand what i'm doing how can i give informed consent if i can't be if i can't figure out how can i inform a patient and i and i have had patients that went ahead and boosted anyway and that's fine that's their prerogative uh they usually will say something like i have no you know i've had done well with it i'm fine with it i'm saying fine that's fine and let's be clear i i am no have issue with the i don't have issue with the mrna platform i i'm vaccinating elderly people for rsv i think that's a reasonable thing and i've seen no adverse events from that vaccine, none whatsoever. And RSV is around, and it's a serious illness in some situations, particularly if you're older.

So it makes sense. And let's say there is risk from that platform. If you're older, that risk starts to make sense, right? Because it's a serious illness we're trying to protect you from. But the world of risk reward seems to have become, just the practice of medicine, it seems to have become completely marginalized. You can't give informed consent. You can't do risk-reward analysis. You just have to do what they tell you.

And that's great. It's the opposite of practicing medicine. That's gravely, gravely, gravely concerning. So let's go back to the topic of what do we do with the problems you saw back in 2007 that have seemed to have become really quite a bit more pronounced in terms of our loss of freedoms. Just the fact that Caleb has to throw a disclaimer up just for us having a conversation. I was with Bobby Kennedy the other day, and every time I'm around him, I just think to myself in my first interview with him, at the end of it, he goes, oh, Drew, you are really courageous to have spoken to me. And I go, I just thought to myself, I don't agree with everything he said, or I don't agree with everything he stands for necessarily, but to be courageous, to have a conversation with somebody, that's disgusting.

That is disgusting. So what is that? What do you think that is? And what do we have to do about that? Well, I think it's staring us in the face what it is, which is this global policy that is being enacted of censorship, marginalization of dissidents, punishing dissidents by delicensing or lawfare or other ways, you know, threats of the quarantine

camps that I've mentioned, threats of, well, what Susan and you were talking about, you know, this One Health plan, which basically calls everything public health, and then everything can be controlled by these 10 oligarchs, basically, who, you know, are planning our futures for us and want a feudal, a global feudal system. And very specifically, you know, what is it? Why does this continue? As you may know, you know, this is not your way of looking at the world, but it is mine. I come from a political consulting background. This is a bioweapon. The virus was a bioweapon. As we now know, it was gain-of-function research. It was probably released from a lab intentionally or not, a lab overseen by the People's Liberation Army of China.

The vaccine is a bioweapon. I've become persuaded very reluctantly by looking at how China has an MOU with Pfizer. China has an IP transfer from Pfizer in 2021 per the SEC filings, China made a billion doses for export, not for use in China. They opened 14 plants in Western Europe and first two in the United States and now 11 to distribute basically Chinese-owned, manufactured, formulated, packaged, distributed product going into the veins of Americans. So who's getting mandated? Who got mandated? Our soldiers, our sailors, our first responders, our entire healthcare personnel, our college students, our future, right? In some states, children going to school,

everyone that you need to create a healthy society or to defend a society that is under attack. Didn't China end up using the, the Moderna vaccine though? Not to my knowledge. They have another vaccine. And nor, nor the Pfizer, the Pfizer vaccine.

To my knowledge, they, the flow that I traced showed that their MOU with pfizer was for export only and for western europe and north america um but i guess more importantly is to understand that these drugs not just this one i mean this is why i'm doing all these like herbal remedies you know investigations i never want to be in a hospital again i never want to consult a doctor again and take Western pharmaceuticals unless it's for a limb falling off because what I've seen from the Pfizer documents is that our system of getting these into the market is completely corrupt. We happen to have

seen the Pfizer documents. What about the blood thinners my mom is on? What about everything everyone watching is on? The FDA doesn't look at what it doesn't want to find, right? That's the process. And so here's 450,000 pages. Our experts are two years later still pouring over them to find out what's in them. The FDA ushered them through in a week, right? Exactly like the guy on the phone with that poor child, right? They don't want to look at what they don't want to find. As you mentioned earlier, they construct, you know, clinical trials are constructed, and we've seen so much of this in Pfizer documents, to not see

a possible bad outcome. So trials will be ended, you know, in two weeks when the problem that is manifesting is going to take a few months to manifest, right? Or funny math or unblinding the control group. I mean, all kinds of dirty tricks happened to this particular medicine to get it to market. And it's killing people and it's sterilizing people. And I hate to tear the last shred of innocence from your eyes, Dr. Drew. But unfortunately, Pfizer concluded a month after rollout into the arms of the public in November of 2020 that their own injection did not work to stop COVID. The third most common side effect in the Pfizer documents is COVID. And their words are vaccine failure and failure of efficacy.

So it doesn't even have the efficacy that the cost-benefit analysis, respectfully, that you just did would suggest. It doesn't work to stop COVID. And we're seeing that. The people who are getting COVID are the vaccine. Yeah, certainly now. People are conflating a year ago, three years ago, now. These are different clinical circumstances.

They're very, very different setting. Caleb, you've got some documentation there that I guess China did approve some mRNA vaccine. Do you know which one it was in March of 23? Yeah, that's just what I'm reading is that in March of 2023, they did approve an mRNA vaccine from another drug maker. But I mean, I haven't even heard anything about this at all. So I mean, it's fairly recent, and they did wait quite a long before they started approvals for it. Yeah, I guess what I'm trying to say is exactly that. I've concluded that it's a bioweapon and that we're under attack for reasons that, you know, my husband in his appearance says, Brian O'Shea has explained to you all that I'm persuaded by. And China doesn't attack us in conventional ways that we're used to thinking about when we think about war. So, you know, our energy supply, our food supply, our farmland, our water resources, our cultural institutions, our universities, that's what is being encircled

right now. Our open borders, 27,000 Chinese nationals flowing in over the border, along with tens of thousands of people that are, you know, we don't know who they are. We don't know where they're going. I mean, this is all part of a warfare scenario in an unconventional way. And I guess what I'm saying is having looked deeply at the Pfizer injection, it's very easy to make these injections more or less lethal. And one way you can tamper with lethality is dosage with Moderna being more than three times as dangerous as Pfizer with 100 micrograms of the active ingredients versus 30 for adults. But another way you can make it more or less lethal is just temperature and storage. You remember that there were ultra-cold freezers early on when it was first rolled out.

Well, Pfizer changed their directions multiple times about how you store it. Can you leave it out for two hours? Can you leave it out for two hours? Can you leave it out for 12 hours? Basically, it's like six doses per bottle and a special syringe that people couldn't get. So there's all kinds of weird carelessness about the dose and how you store it. And all of that can affect how lethal it is, how damaging. This is a product that's liquid at ultra-cold temperatures and then coalesces at room temperature and in the body and clumps. You know, the lipid nanoparticles are an industrial fad, right? I mean, that's why I keep saying this is a bioweapon. We're wrong to think of it as a medicine. It's something that is designed to damage. I mean, there's no way not to conclude from the focus on sterilizing people in the Pfizer

documents. It's designed to do just what we're seeing now, which is all those women with ruined menses. Well, two and a half years later, there's a 13 to 20% drop in live births. This is Igor Chudov's research based on government databases in countries around the world, especially in the West. There are a million missing babies in Europe. So there's geopolitics is going on. Certain countries are being wiped out or disabled, and people are being moved in who have no memory of democracy.

And what's coming up next for your group? Do they have some particular publications coming down the pipeline? Pardon me. Yes. Pardon me. It's not COVID. It's a cough. I'm swallowing the wrong way. Some very exciting things are happening. The VAERS, I'm not sure if I can get through this. Pardon me.

The VAERS database, a ruling just forced the CDC to release not just the bullet points that people checked for responding to a question. I'm sorry, it's v-safe is the database, which is like a routine questionnaire that got sent to vaccinated people. Right. And they had only released like, you know, do you have fever? Do you have chills? Preset boxes. Well, now they have to release all of the text fields where people who had bad reactions would write in and say, well, actually, you know, my head fell off or, you know, my child died or, you know, less serious things, of course.

And that's 7.8 million records. And it's interesting that the CDC wanted to conceal that. They fought to conceal it. It's interesting that they lost. So there's going to be a massive volume of Americans telling the CDC what went wrong, you know, that we're going to see in their own voices. Very moving. And also Canada's organization against vaccine injury has just asked to partner with our volunteers because they had a successful FOIA and they're releasing a massive database which will be able to show temporality in deaths and disabilities which is very important as you know for you know surveilling a population it's been difficult as you said earlier rightly to say well there are all these excess, there are all these new disabilities that Ed Dowd has documented, for instance, without a direct kind of 48 hours injection

to heart attack, it's very difficult to firmly attribute those damages to the injection, but this database will allow that kind of analysis. So that's exciting. Yeah, I still have my, the question I started out with a year and a half ago is it what's covid what's vaccine what's vaccine plus covid none of that seems to have been

really properly sorted out because everyone's at covid and everyone's had the vaccine or maybe not i mean maybe certainly everyone's had covid i i've seen recently by the way some odd anatomy uh coronary disease where in young people and i'm like well maybe this is what a single hotter was talking about coincidental possibly but uh odd very odd long leaving single vessel just like long vest long single vessel really um you know usually heart disease it's sort of scattered around and there's usually you know one vessel that gets predominant disease relative to the others or there can be single vessel disease that's relevant but they're sort of you know there's sort of it's around this is like one

lesion long i've never seen anything like that it was just odd odd odd and i i don't know what to make of it except the heart like no no no with with with the usually within a coronary artery when you get heart disease you get narrowing right you get you get plaques and narrowing and then eventually the narrowing you know it can be either a short strip of artery or a or a long strip of artery but usually it's pretty short and it you know as it narrows down to 90 or below then it starts to become significant this was like most of the artery replaced by a very tight lesion that's odd if there's not disease elsewhere that's just very odd but anyway that's just my thing i'll ask cardiologists about that um okay i i still i want to just before we wrap up i want to i just want to go back to the

historical uh topic because that that's your expertise and and that's what got you worried and that's what got you to see things early um and i and i'm not sure i got a clear answer from you on what we do i mean as far as whatever is going on with China, I mean, that's overwhelming to me. I can't really do much about that, but I can sort of take care of the homeland, right? We can do stuff here. And it seems like there's been an attack on our privileges and civil liberties really by the people who usually have championed protecting them. And it's been very hard to understand this kind of flip. It's very weird. And I have found myself, like I said, studying the French Revolution

and very, very, very, very, very deeply trying to figure out what's going on. And I found it interesting that the french seem to be doing the same thing right now they're sort of re-examining their own heritage and there's been things that they have sort of biases and myths and things that they're sort of re-examining because they're they're worried about things they're worried about their republic they're worried about their culture and right it is good and it's sort of admirable do we need to have some sort of similar self-conscious reckoning is it that simple is it just going to the ballot box how do we manage all this yeah well it's certainly not as simple as just going to the ballot box i

mean i i will bet everyone here you know money or dinner that there are going to be problems with the presidential election. I mean, that's how this stage of history unfolds. And, you know, one possible use of disease X and the pandemic treaty is to have an emergency that keeps everyone home and sending in mail-in ballots to keep this populist president that the globalists really don't want to have in power from being re-elected. And I'm non-partisan. I'm not endorsing anyone. I'm just observing that, you know, we can count on problems with our elections. You're asking exactly the right questions. I do feel hopeful that people are sort of waking up all at once, it seems. And there are populist movements all over Western Europe. I've talked to people in Canada and Australia. Can I, I want to just stop for a second.

The term populism came out of nowhere about four years ago. What are we even talking? There's two terms that have come uh two terms that have suddenly become commonplace that i'd never heard in my life before one was zionism i mean zionism was sort of a sect of a hungarian you know subsect of the religion that included a state of israel but it was always the religious zionism that was always referred to there was and of course the the uh the enemies of that of that project would call would use it as sort of a pejorative but now it's used as this universal uh term for support of israel which is just weird to me and then populism came out of

nowhere to the closest thing i can get to what they're talking about is just a majority. I mean, there's a majority of people. Isn't that democratic? How is that? What are they even talking about? Democracy, exactly. Yeah, so let's stay with populism. What do you mean when you say populism?

What do you think the average person means when they say that? What does the press mean when they say that? So you're absolutely right i mean i would i would gently disagree with you that i think those two words have been kind of re-weaponized recently but they they have a pretty long history i mean um herzog i believe um kind of popularized the idea of a nationalist zionism at the turn of the last century. And he did, he did. And it became this religious subsect Zionist. You know,

he wasn't, it wasn't a Israeli was the term for Israeli, not Zionist. You know, then all of a sudden they become, they became conflated about three months ago or maybe a couple of years ago. I actually heard for the first time out of a college student's mouth. We could argue about this, but I'm not sure you want to use this time to do that.

Yeah, it's not important. Tell me about populism. I won't even say it's important. But you're really onto something with populism and how it's being cast. It's being cast as kind of a dirty word. When exactly, I mean, there was a populist era in the 19-teens in this country. And it was a reform, a time of reform and a time of, you know, enfranchisement, women got the vote, you know, it was a reaction against kind of

oligarchical bankster, you know, interests. And so populism was taught to me in high school as a very positive thing. And, you know, again, extending democracy, just as you say, and now it's really always lumped in with like right wing or, you know, white supremacists or nationalists, you know, as if that's a bad thing, but I'm with you, right? I'm a very like peacenicky person. I'm a very inclusive, anti-racist person. And I've become a populist. We were liberal. We would have been liberal, liberal. Totally right. That was us right that was us that was us but now embracing populism and i'm cheering on these populist movements because right now the world is like the division isn't left or right the division is these evil sociopathic and we haven't

gotten there but i think also like demonic oligarchs right these dark forces who are globalists and who is elites yeah but they're more than elites right there are okay all right but but they're like i want to hear you out okay all right they're not like the elites of old like the elites of old would at least fight with each other these guys are like in lockstep but anyway there's them as we discussed earlier and then there's you know people thinking i just want to be you know, people thinking, I just want to be French. I want to be Dutch. I want to be American.

I want to be Canadian. It's okay to have borders. It's not racist to have borders. As I often say, if you don't have borders, you don't have citizens. And if you don't have citizens, you don't have a country. You don't have a country. Exactly. So what do we do?

You know, when you said I can take care of the home front, that's exactly what we need to do, right? You need to know where your food comes from. You need to make friends with a farmer,, to defend yourself if you ever have to, God forbid. You have to buy a weapon legally and lawfully, you know, to use in self-defense. You have to, you know, get your water supply in a big plastic barrel. You have to get your food supply, your dehydrated food, your canned food. I mean, prepper has so many negative connotations, but those of us who have, as you said, with a medical kit, right, those of us who have enough food, enough water, we know where our generator is. We know where to buy a cow. We're having good talks with our neighbors. We know what to do if the grid goes down, if the cyber access goes down. That's how we'll survive and more than anything, build up these community

links that were so destroyed intentionally during the lockdowns, go to church, go to synagogue, go to mosque, you know, go bowling, go to the PTA, run for school board, you know, have friends over for potluck. I mean, literally rebuild all of this local, local, local bonds, because when people are informed and able to inform each other face to face, and they've secured their food and their health and their, you know, self-defense, I hate to say it, but it's going to come down to that possibly. And also print out all your financial documents, because that's definitely going to be weirdness with that. Then, and get out of debt. I mean, it's really important to not have debt because they're going to weaponize debt. Know

where the title is to your house. All of these games are going to be played. And I have not been wrong yet. But if you secure all of that and you build up strong relationships with your neighbors and get all your information from alternative media and support alternative media right withdraw from the legacy media system which is just going to create fear messages and propaganda um then we can have a rebirth of freedom i i think i had brian your husband telling me the same thing was that a local practice of democracy was a really important he was very optimistic though i feel like you don't you're not making me feel optimistic you're going well i'm going i'm jewish you're jewish we worry that's how we survive he's irish they fight that's how they

survive different skill sets what is the uh what is the the line from phil on the road for the meantime we suffer we suffer so we quit we quit we have we have um well anxiety again i i i i don't know that i'm agreeing with everything but i i'm always loved the the thought provocation and and i and i likewise uh appreciate you and i appreciate your writing and i appreciate what you guys are trying to do it's it's all you know you're coming from the right place which is it wouldn't be accurate to say uh wouldn't it be accurate to say i guess it more properly put that your pursuit is of the truth correct i hope so. I'm a journalist and a nonfiction writer

that used to be like, you know, journalism 101. Hey, you got to remember, you got to remember, this all started, one of the pieces of your historical sort of comparisons that has sort of been left out, and most people aren't aware of this, this really all started because academia became completely overtaken

by post-structuralism. And the core feature of post-structuralism is there is no truth. It's all relative. And I was trained, yeah, I was trained that the goal is to use this limited instrument that we have to do our best with an evidence-based

experimentation to ascend to something approximating the truth, that the truth is worthwhile, that our goal is the truth. We can never get there. Maybe there isn't even a truth, but we can approximate the truth. And that is our goal always. And if you start from a place where there is no truth, then everything's on the table. And everything's off the table simultaneously. You can do, you can justify anything. And that's, I really think the return to the pursuit of truth is a crucial.

We can be wrong in our pursuit of the truth and we can disagree in our pursuit of the truth, but at least we're trying to get to the same place. And it is time that we return to that, it seems to me. You're here, standing ovation. I mean, yes, well said, beautiful said. All right, Susan wants to come in. Hold on.

No, I'm good. I saw her leaning in like she had something important to say. And then, fine. He does that a lot though, Naomi. It's kind of sexy, isn't it? I do what a lot? I talk about post-structuralism with disdain. Well, it's very inspiring.

You like it when I shit on post-structuralism? It's very inspiring. When I shit on chaussure and derrida? That's really what gets you going. They deserve your contempt. Yeah, I know. They definitely do. No, I know.

Listen, Foucault got my attention. Foucault got my attention many years ago when he insisted that when people adopted his point of view that mental illness was caused by institution, that there was no such thing as mental illness. I was so blown away that people could believe that bullshit. And then I started looking closer at all the bullshit. And then I started listening to French philosophers who were gobsmacked that the U.S. had any interest in these philosophers that they had dismissed 75 years ago as unimportant and worthless. And we were completely taken by them. But then I thought, oh, well, think about it this way. We are still dealing with the fact that Ken Kesey's One Flew Over the Cuckoo's, was written three quarters of a century ago.

And yet people still think that, A, that was some sort of documentary, and B, that is somehow how mental health services are rendered today, coming in on 100 years later. You don't think medicine has gotten a little better since then? It's quite a bit better, quite a bit better, I have to tell you. Okay, so we'll leave it there, Naomi. Although we have weaknesses that have been sort of brought out by the COVID pandemic, we'll sort of, I guess, struggle with those

weaknesses while we suffer. We will all prevail. Yes. Where else besides dailycloud.io? Please, you can order Facing the Beast on Amazon or at Chelsea Green. You can come to dailycloud.io. All of the Pfizer reports are free on the upper right-hand corner there, or you can order it in book form on Amazon. And you can come to my Substack Outspoken on Substack. And then Facing the Beast, Courage, Faith, and Resistance in a New Dark Age. Naomi Wolf, hope to see you soon. Give our best to Brian. I will. Thank you, Susan.

Thank you, Dr. Drew. Bye-bye. You got it. And then, Caleb, just one more time on the schedule coming up there. Also, we have to make an announcement. You're going to be on Russell Brand's show tomorrow. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Does that go live? They moved it to 7.40 for your hit time. That's much better. Oh, yeah. Does that go live? They moved it to 740 for your hit time.

That's much better. And they're on Rumble. He's on YouTube. It's live, I do believe. Okay. And I should have thought of this in advance and made a little promotion for it. So everybody, tell everybody to watch that likes him and likes Drew. I don't know what we're talking about.

I don't either. Are they giving us topics? Okay. Russell and I used to talk about addiction together, and now here we are. He'll probably give you like five minutes. I don't know. Who knows?

I think maybe there were some talking points. I just have to go back to my emails. Fair enough. I was sick this week. I completely forgot. So here we go. There's that upcoming schedule. Stan Hope tomorrow. Brewer on next Tuesday. Joseph here we go. There's that upcoming schedule. Stan Hope tomorrow,

Brewer on next Tuesday, Joseph Latipo, Willie Sooners, and I'm not much familiar with Dr. Soon. Roseanne, Alex Berenson, Kelly Victor comes back on Valentine's Day.

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