Ask Dr. Drew - Naomi Wolf: What Pfizer Tried To Hide About “Safe & Effective” mRNA Treatments For Covid w/ Dr. Kelly Victory – Ask Dr. Drew – Episode 208

Episode Date: April 28, 2023

NYT bestselling author & DailyClout CEO Naomi Wolf returns to discuss the alarming allegations in “War Room / DailyClout Pfizer Documents Analysis Volunteers’ Reports Book.” The collaboration between her DailyClout civic tech company and War Room brought together a team of over 3500 tasked with investigating “primary source Pfizer documents released under a court order by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration” and evaluating the truth about “safe and effective” mRNA treatments for Covid. Naomi Wolf was previously on Ask Dr. Drew in Feb 2023: https://youtu.be/HO2nyxCFiGg ABOUT NAOMI WOLF One of the world’s most influential feminists, Dr. Naomi Wolf doesn’t just comment on the world’s most pervasive problems, she aims to solve them. Dr. Wolf is a bestselling author, columnist and professor. She is a graduate of Yale University and received a doctorate from Oxford. Wolf has written eight bestselling works of nonfiction, including The Beauty Myth, Give Me Liberty and The End of America, and is co-founder and CEO of civic tech company https://DailyClout.io Follow her at https://twitter.com/naomirwolf and https://www.facebook.com/dailyclout/ 「 SPONSORED BY 」 • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew • BIRCH GOLD - Don’t let your savings lose value. You can own physical gold and silver in a tax-sheltered retirement account, and Birch Gold will help you do it. Claim your free, no obligation info kit from Birch Gold at https://birchgold.com/drew • GENUCEL - Using a proprietary base formulated by a pharmacist, Genucel has created skincare that can dramatically improve the appearance of facial redness and under-eye puffiness. Genucel uses clinical levels of botanical extracts in their cruelty-free, natural, made-in-the-USA line of products. Get an extra discount with promo code DREW at https://genucel.com/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 The CDC states that COVID-19 vaccines are safe, effective, and reduce your risk of severe illness. Hundreds of millions of people have received a COVID-19 vaccine, and serious adverse reactions are uncommon. Dr. Drew is a board-certified physician and Dr. Kelly Victory is a board-certified emergency specialist. Portions of this program will examine countervailing views on important medical issues. You should always consult your personal physician before making any decisions about your health.  「 ABOUT the SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. 「 WITH DR. KELLY VICTORY 」 Dr. Kelly Victory MD is a board-certified trauma and emergency specialist with over 30 years of clinical experience. She served as CMO for Whole Health Management, delivering on-site healthcare services for Fortune 500 companies. She holds a BS from Duke University and her MD from the University of North Carolina. Follow her at https://earlycovidcare.org and https://twitter.com/DrKellyVictory. 「 GEAR PROVIDED BY 」 • BLUE MICS - Find your best sound at https://drdrew.com/blue • ELGATO - See how Elgato's lights transformed Dr. Drew's set: https://drdrew.com/sponsors/elgato/ 「 ABOUT DR. DREW 」 For over 30 years, Dr. Drew has answered questions and offered guidance to millions through popular shows like Celebrity Rehab (VH1), Dr. Drew On Call (HLN), Teen Mom OG (MTV), and the iconic radio show Loveline. Now, Dr. Drew is opening his phone lines to the world by streaming LIVE from his home studio. Watch all of Dr. Drew's latest shows at https://drdrew.tv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey everybody, welcome today. Thankfully, Dr. Kelly Victor is here with me as well. We've been, we're coming to you from New York. I've had some very strange little technical problems, so she is there to back me up if there's any significant difficulties. Our guest today is our friend, Dr. Naomi Wolf. She's a best-selling author, columnist, professor,

recognized as one of the most influential feminist writers, certainly in the country. Rhodes Scholar, graduate of Yale, received doctorate from Oxford. She has written eight best-selling non-fiction works. The Beauty Myth is one of her sort of sentinel publications. The End of America, Give Me Liberty. And lately she's been very concerned about the impact

of the safe and effective so-called vaccine on women and women's health. She returns to discuss some issues as it pertains to what might be embedded in some of the Pfizer data. She has been working with a large number of scientists to try to dissect what's there. She is at Daily Clout CEO and don't you follow her on Twitter at Naomi R. Wolfe. Be back with her in just a moment. Our laws as it pertained to substances are draconian and bizarre. A psychopath started this.

He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction, fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous. I'm a doctor for f*** sake. Where the hell do you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals. Let's just deal with what's real.

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investigating primary source Pfizer documents released under court order by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and making every effort to evaluate the truth. This is the, I want to make sure I get the name of it. It's War Room slash Daily Cloud Pfizer documents analysis volunteers reports book. Please welcome our friend, Dr. Naomi Wolf. There you are. Thank you. Hey.

Hey, great to see you. So I want to make sure I get the plug right for you. Hey, great to see you. So I want to make sure I get the plug right for you. Is this a book that was published or a document or is there somewhere people go online to read it? Well, I'm glad to say it is at long last a physical paperback book. the work of 3500 medical and scientific experts from around the world who have volunteered to read through these tens and tens of thousands of documents released under court order By the FTA that the FTA asked the court to keep hidden for 75 years So there are 64 reports now and 50 of them are in this paperback book Which is now available for pre-order. We sold out the first four printings within 48 hours each time. So you can pre-order it on our website, dailycloud.io,

or you can get it in a Kindle form on Amazon. And very soon, in about 10 days, you can get it physically. And is it War Room? Is that the name of it? No, War Room is one of the entities that put out the call, and has been a platform, which is one of the great ironies of contemporary history for me to, you know, raise the alarm about these issues. And Daily Cloud is my company. So the whole entity is called the War Room Daily Cloud, Pfizer documents, research volunteers, and these are the Oh, there it is. documents analysis reports. That's the title. Okay, there we go. There we go. Okay, and we get it from your

website. Great. Okay, I can't wait to read that. So before we dig into what's there, and I'm going to bring in Dr. Victor, just a couple of minutes, and I know she wants to talk about this at length. Oh, tell me more about the 3500 professionals or early scientists and researchers. how did you collect them? Who were they? What's their training? How were they vetted?

That kind of stuff. It's a lot of people. It is a lot of people and it's an absolutely miraculous undertaking that it's been so successful. Um, are this, these reports have started coming out a year ago. Uh, we bring out two or three every month. And the book itself has been published in Kindle or PDF form since January. We have not had a lawyer's letter from Pfizer. Nothing's wrong. And they can't say that we're defaming them. Everything is sourced directly to the original documentation. So these experts range from, and they've been identified by their CV, and then they're assigned to six different working groups.

And then there's a super committee over each working group that vets the final report, corrects it, makes sure it's fine. And then it goes on to Amy Kelly, who is our COO and the project director of this extraordinary undertaking. And then it comes to me. I put it into English that everyone can understand if it's written too technically. And then it's published on Daily Cloud and now in this physical book. So they range. And it's kind of amazing because medicine and science have been so segmented in the post-war period. But this is an undertaking unlike any that you can get at a university or at a hospital or at a research lab because it brings together people from different disciplines. physicians, RNs, medical fraud investigators, biostatisticians, lab clinicians, pathologists, radiologists, sports medicine physicians, cardiologists.

I mean, really. Let me ask you, did they apply to you or did you seek them out or how did you find them? No, we put out the call and they convened themselves under Ms. Kelly's guidance into these six working groups. And we check their work, of course, and we check their CVs. But really, anyone can join. And, you know, we've had to let some people go when they were disruptive or their work wasn't good enough. But we've got, you know, leaders always kind of step forward. And we've got two extraordinary distinguished men of medicine who are kind of the tip of the spear, so to speak. One of them is Dr. Robert Chandler,

who is a distinguished sports physician his whole career. And he treated the Angels and the Lakers. He's based in California. And he's the guy who found a couple of really important newsworthy stories that you'll see in the Pfizer documents book. One of them is that he found that the lipid nanoparticles biodistribute through the body and don't stay at the injection site, and that they accumulate in the liver, the spleen, the adrenals, the lymph, and if you're a woman, in the ovaries. And the other really distinguished kind of leader of his team, Team 3, is Dr. Chris Flowers, who is an oncologist pathologist who oversaw a network of breast cancer clinics for much of his career, and then was at UCSF and is now lending his skill set to us. He broke the story of the fact that in May of 2021, Pfizer knew and the FDA knew that 35 minors had sustained heart damage within a week

after receiving this injection. And they both knew because at the bottom of these documents it says FDA confidential. But they didn't stop the rollout. They didn't let the public know. And it wasn't until four months later that the FDA released a press release downplaying it, but acknowledging that myocarditis risk was elevated among young adults.

And that was after a summer of relentless propaganda, influencers, social media influencers, spokesmodels, the president, the CDC, a barrage of messaging telling parents to get their minors and their young adults mrna vaccinated it is interesting that most countries are or at least one by one countries are electing not to vaccinate under the age of 50 generally or under the age of 65 in certain case of certain countries and that has always been my great concern in this not that like like you know my position is i think i've explained to you before that i vaccinate my elderly patients i've not seen much side effect i've seen benefit and it's a different diathesis in a 75 year old than a 25 year old it's a different risk reward consideration and our job

as physicians is to get that risk-reward analysis correct. And we can go on to speculate about what longer-term risks there might be with the vaccines and things that we don't know about yet. I understand that's there. But it never seemed to reach the level of reward-exceeding risk in the day of Om omicron it just never made sense to me and i know you had some back and forth with vicky male on twitter i noticed last couple days and i actually admired the way you guys were going back and forth it was seemed rather collegial to me and i i think that's the right way to do these things and she had some very dire data about pregnancy and i kept saying this seems too dire to me this does not fit what's going on with

omicron and of course england now has you know uk has decreased their requirements because it is a different illness with omicron um anything anything that you got out of that back and forth that you thought was worthwhile um well respectfully no i mean i i appreciate that no i mean i appreciate that you liked the way we went about it and of course um focusing on the facts and the data is always better than what too often happens on social media which is you know sniping and character assassination but I didn't see peer-reviewed data presented to me for analysis and I can tell you that the peer-reviewed data that people are always citing it you know from the highest levels of government about pregnancy I took it apart definitively in

my book, The Bodies of Others. And it's V-safe. And this is a database that is so flawed. And this is peer reviewed because shamefully, a medical publication published it, the Shimabukuro version of this study. But this is a study in which pregnant women who happened mostly to be nurses, meaning already disproportionately white women, disproportionately educated, disproportionately having access to medical care and disproportionately aware of and having access to good nutrition, were asked to fill out an app on their phone to report their symptoms. And they weren't reporting them to a clinic. They weren't reporting them to doctors. They weren't even reporting them to scientists. They were reporting them essentially to a call center that was tabulating their

responses. But it was up to you. If you lost a baby, it was up to you and you were grieving and you were in pain or you were hemorrhaging. It was up to you to get on your phone app and say, I lost my baby. They didn't follow the subjects adequately. They didn't have proper follow-up. And so they managed by doing all of that to kind of state that there were no safety signals, but they did it by junk science, i mean that is not a pure that is not a you know double blind control study you know by by no stretch of the imagination i could make a phone app tomorrow and say you know tell me if you're having um you know erectile dysfunction and i'm going to get nobody saying yes and i'm going to say there's no

evidence of erectile dysfunction with this you know with this population. It's nonsensical science and they should be ashamed of themselves. And respectfully, she, you know, anyone who says that this vaccine, after all the evidence that we've provided from the Pfizer documents in which there is a 78% plus, and multiple now independent analysts have looked at the section of Pfizer documents and concluded that that is correct. Loss of the fetus among the women that remained after Pfizer managed to lose 236 out of the 270 records of the pregnant women unlawfully, because you're supposed to follow the subject to the end of the study, anyone who tells pregnant women that that, you know, that they need to take this injection, I mean, I would not want to be, I would not want to be them, you know, meeting their maker at this point. And to add to that, we're now getting three different sources of confirmed reports of compromised placentas and the reports in vaccinated moms, as well as moms who have had COVID. So there may be something there,

but what I can tell you is that also in the Pfizer documents is the conclusion by Pfizer that the vaccines don't work to stop COVID, right? So I'm glad your elderly patients are doing well. Oh, yeah. Well, that's another major, major problem. Okay. Well, I guess all I want to say in the end of this rant because i'm really quite angry about it as lovely as she can be personally no i am angry i am angry because women who are pregnant or planning to get pregnant are listening to people like that and saying well that seems reasonable i'll go do this they're telling me it's safe and there's no no evidence there's so much evidence to the contrary so dr Fork, who's a maternal fetal medicine specialist, I believe you know him.

We have interviewed him. Kelly and I have interviewed him herewife who's been helping women deliver since 1976 and she's at Sierra Cares in the Sonora Valley and she said and she showed me this image that I sent to your producer she said that since 2020 she's been seeing completely abnormal placentas so many abnormal placentas that she doesn't have an image of a normal one From her practice to send me anymore and she described them as cloudy micro calcifications the blood vessels that are so important to nourish and nurture the baby are

Calcified and with like what she calls COVID dots or COVID bumps all over them. And she sees this in both women who've had COVID and women who've had the mRNA vaccine who haven't had COVID, as I understood her. And this, again, I got an email yesterday from another nurse midwife, and I have yet to interview her, but she is in Sacramento. And she said she's seen the same thing, placentas that are flat, not kind of, well, as these, I mean, it's kind of gross and unusual to get into what a healthy placenta looks like, but we kind of have to face it because we all come from that. She's saying normal placentas are kind of meaty and they can sustain the baby. And she's seeing what Ellen Jasmer saw, which is flat pancake-like placentas that don't hold together,

that can't sustain a baby. They're having babies with abnormalities, early delivery, babies that seem fine but go into respiratory distress, have to be rushed to the ER within a day of being taken home. And she's also seeing this kind of cloudiness and silvery grayness when a healthy placenta is, I now know, purple maroon. So I'm a reporter. So these are three independent eyewitnesses saying there is a signal here. And so anyone who tells a pregnant woman to take this injection before we get to the bottom of that is being dangerously irresponsible in my view. I will have Dr. Kelly Victory pick that up right there. I would like to rant too about that.

After we go to break. Susan has been very concerned about this. And it's interesting, at the beginning of our conversation, you under your breath said what a weird irony of history that the war room and Naomi Wolf get together. But because Naomi is considered, would classical liberal be a right way to describe you or are you left to that maybe classically historically yeah liberal is good yeah and and

yeah and there's just weird bedfellows being created by the extraordinary times that we are in and uh it's just i i see that kind of thing all the time. So when you said that under your breath, it caught my attention because it is an unusual time. Okay, so Dr. Amy Wolf with us. Kelly, say that again. It's the delay that makes us jump on each other. Say that again. Oh, I'm sorry.

I was just gonna say, you know, I think what's beautiful is that we're learning that caring about babies and caring about the constitution is not partisan and caring about women which is something you've done your entire career which i i kind of would champion that that's a nice thing to rally around and i agree the constitution of babies and what's up susan it's easy to do when you are a woman uh well it's easy to understand it more clearly yes yes and uh and And, uh, and Naomi's been, but Naomi's been a champion her entire career. Thank you so much. I don't mean to be talking

over you both. I just want to say, if I may, uh, Dr. Victory, you know, I almost started to cry when I was talking to, um, Ellen Jasmer, because it's been a year that I've been reporting a year and a half since i began calling an alert about women having menstrual infertility and baby bearing problems and and this is the first woman's health advocate from the women's health community that i've spoken to who's come forward all the feminists except for you dr victory and susan and a handful of others you know in the more in the media but all of the traditional women's health advocates, all the, our bodies, ourselves, ladies, all the other midwives, all the other, you know, gynecologists, all the other obstetricians who are women are silent. To be fair, it's complicated and it is a dangerous landscape. And as you know, I've apologized to you

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there with uh naomi wolf and i will step out of the way. Dr. Kelly Victory. No, no worries. Naomi, welcome back. Thanks so much for joining us. We've been discussing these issues of what I consider, and I know you consider, irrefutable evidence of adverse effects related to these COVID mRNA shots. But before, and I do want to pick up exactly where you guys had left off talking about the placentas, but before I do that, I want to get on the table and please correct me if I'm wrong. This new book that we are discussing that you have just put out goes well beyond exposing adverse events related to the vaccines. What you are exposing is unassailable evidence that they knew of these things prior. It is one thing to have made an

error in medicine, not acceptable, but that is one thing that we would need to contend with. The idea that we are instead contending with out and out fraud, lying, corruption on the part not only of the vaccine manufacturers, but the CDC, the FDA, our own government who had access to this information. They knew and had predicted these exact adverse events prior to the rollout to the masses. Am I stating that too strongly? I think you're not stating it strongly enough, but you're definitely 80% there. Not only did they know, but you'll see from the book that they designed what they were looking at to confirm that they were hurting people the way that they eventually hurt millions of people, for example. So it's very hard to wrap our brains around this if we're

normal human beings, but the book shows evidence of what I've called very conservatively the greatest crime against humanity ever. And I'm the granddaughter of a woman who lost nine siblings to the Holocaust so I don't use that phrasing lightly but they knew like let me just give you two examples and it's it's so Mengele ish right they knew what they were doing they designed it to work this way this is a respiratory pathogen. I'm not a medical doctor, but why are you dissecting the sex organs of sacrificed rats after they've made it?

If you're looking at a respiratory issue, right? They told, I mean, just look the fertility issue alone, right? It's so clear they designed this to ruin women's fertility. Not only did they know, they targeted it and targeted it according to the data that we see. An example, Pfizer defines in the Pfizer documents exposure to vaccine, and this is very disturbing, as including skin contact and inhalation, but also sexual intercourse, especially at the moment of conception. And they warned the vaccinated men in their study

not to have intercourse, to abstain from intercourse with unvaccinated women or women of childbearing age specifically. And that if they didn't abstain from intercourse with women of childbearing age to use two reliable contraceptive methods. And so they knew that there was something transmitted in the semen of vaccinated men that was harmful to fertility or to implantation or to the fetus. We don't yet know, but that was

their caution to men. Well, they didn't say to all the women of America or the world, don't have intercourse with a vaccinated man unless you're using two reliable forms of contraception. Not only that, but let me direct your attention to a chart that Dr. Robert Chandler found in the Pfizer documents. It's reproduced in this book. It's so chilling. Women are disabled now from menstrual problems and problems is to calm a word for what women are dealing with. As you know, they're dealing with menstrual cycles that are two periods a month, menstruating every single day for their entire lives to date. Menarche being brought on to 10 year old girls with the first injection. Women in their 80s, long past menopause,

having uterine and vaginal bleeding again. All of these things are barren. Some women, agonizing cramps, unvaccinated women having agonizing cramps when they have intercourse with their vaccinated husbands. Women describing, you know, I don't know what to say, tissue that is clotted and almost calcified emerging from their bodies. I mean, there are whole kind of support groups for this now. So all of these conditions are documented in the Pfizer documents in a chart in which there are 20 plus scientific names for these conditions and tens of thousands of women that Pfizer knew about chalked up under each of these. Leading every day of the month, 20,000 women. Leading twice a month, 13,000 women. I mean, all the way down. And agonizing, devastating conditions,

losing your period altogether. There's a group in France called Où est mon cycle? Where's my cycle? Where did it go? Women completely losing their cycle, meaning no baby, right? So what Dr. Chandler found, as I may have mentioned, is that the lipid nanoparticles, which go through every organ in the body, accumulate in the ovaries. And they also traverse, of course, the placenta, which is a membrane. So what all of this shows, just in terms of the 360-degree attack on human reproduction, I haven't even gotten into the poisoning of breast milk, which is in the Pfizer documents, in which four women's breast milk turned blue-green, and one poor baby went into convulsions, nursing from a vaccinated mom, and died, right? All of this they knew. They knew that when they were going to inject women,

and the other thing is it's a war against women, and they knew this. And weirdly, this is with every single system. I would say 10 systems we've confirmed, especially Dr. Chandler, that women are over represented versus men by a factor of three to one, four to one, and more recently with anaphylaxis, eight to one. So it's a war against women. I'm not sure why, but I have the darkest suspicions about why. But there's a chart also that Dr. Chandler found that showed that of the 43,000 adverse events, 72% of them are in women. And of those 16%, this is Pfizer's words, are, quote, reproductive disorders, end quote. Pfizer's words. Pfizer's words. They knew and they kept going. They knew and they spent billions, if not certainly hundreds of millions of dollars

in our taxpayer money to through the CARES Act on ad campaigns telling pregnant women to this day or women getting pregnant, protect your baby or parents protect your children by injecting them. And this is what they had in their computers on their desks. Reproductive disorder, 16%. And as you point out, let me say, and I agree with you, it requires one to overcome a tremendous amount of cognitive dissonance

to even get your arms around the idea that this type of evil could have been occurring at the hands of those very organizations who are tasked with protecting us, with looking after our own health and the health of our families and our loved ones. So on top of that, the implications, not only from a moral and ethical standpoint, there are legal ramifications because one of the only things we had to stand on with regard to finding some recourse for those millions of people who have been injured was to be able to show fraud because these vaccine manufacturers have enjoyed blanket immunity as a result of the emergency use authorization. And the only way we would get around that blanket liability immunity is if we

could prove fraud. And I suspect that the work that you and 3,500 scientists have been working on is going to do exactly that, prove this fraud. With regard to the concentration of these injections in the reproductive organs, it is implausible to me that they didn't know that. We have known for decades that lipid nanoparticles in particular, independent of mRNA, lipid nanoparticles concentrate in organ systems and in tissues that have high fat and that are high in hormones, specifically the testes and the ovaries. We've known this for decades, and it's one of the ways we've leveraged lipid nanoparticles in order to be able to specifically deliver things like medications to reproductive organs. So it's not plausible that they wouldn't have known this. Let's get back for a second to the placentas, because another person I would throw in who

has been reporting on this is Dr. Ryan Cole, who's a good friend of this show. And I'm sure you're familiar with his work, a pathologist. He was reporting on these grossly undersized placentas full of microclots and full of microcalcifications. And he said he's got too many to handle as well. So go back now to your book. We've talked about the placentas. What are some of the other, in your mind, highlights, for lack of a bad word when you're talking about something this heinous, but in addition to the placental abnormalities and the fact that

they knew that and were targeting that, what are the other sort of top issues that you have uncovered in this research? Thank you. And I really should stress it's these volunteers uncovering it. I'm just reporting it. But very disturbing headlines. Well, you mentioned that you knew that the lipid nanoparticles are, it's been known for decades, the lipid nanoparticles traverse membranes and enter, accumulate in testes and other areas. Well, Amy Kelly, the project director, also found that the lipid nanoparticles are degrading the testes and degrading the Sertoli cells and Leydig cells, which are, as you know, but your viewers might not all know, the factories of masculinity. I didn't know that, but they regulate hormones

that turn boys into men. And so the concern is that these little fetal boys, even if they haven't been vaccinated, if their moms are vaccinated, we don't know if they're going to turn into normal adult men with characteristics that we identify as traditionally masculine, like deep voices, body hair, you know, fertility. We just don't know that their testes are being degraded. So, and also to your point, before I tell you other headlines, I'm sort of wondering, I know many doctors are concerned, very concerned about the spike protein and others are very concerned about the mRNA. I sometimes, I'm not a medical doctor. I'm a political analyst. I, as you know, I've concluded that this is a bioweapon. It's

made in conjunction with the Chinese Communist Party and I'm actually wondering if it's all the other narrative is cover for the lipid nano particles being introduced. Because they go, as Dr. Chidler said, like a gunshot into the body, like a shotgun spray into the body through everything. And we just had a report on jellied muscles, for instance. And, you know, think about something that can basically de, what is the word? It kind of destabilizes, right? All of the magical, beautiful balances, boundaries, distinctions. And so to me, when I see these side effects, so many of them go back to the

lipid antiparticles. Let me just give you a couple of slides. So very surprisingly, the number one side effect in the Pfizer documents is joint pain. And people really don't know this, but there's up and down my street, my neighbors are having hip replacements, shoulder replacements, knee replacements, healthy young adults that I know are having work on their joints and are in pain and crippled. And I remember going back to New York after five or six months away and after the vaccination rollout and seeing so many people in the population visibly moving as if their bodies hurt. And these were otherwise kind of young, recently healthy looking people. The second, and this is again, lipid nanoparticles cause inflammation and arthritis is inflammation.

The second thing is, second most common side effect is myalgia and that's muscle pain. And again, we've just had this report on jellied muscles, weakness, fatigue. The third most common side effect is COVID. And I was saying earlier that Pfizer knew in November of 2020 that the vaccines didn't stop COVID. They describe vaccine failure, failure of efficacy, and they also identify within a month after rollout that the third most common side effect was COVID. So all of the mandates didn't have to happen because they don't work to stop COVID. And Pfizer knew that. Other headlines, my gosh, so many. I mean, this is such a shocking book, but there's a report on strokes. Well, there were over 1,200 deaths within the first three months of the rollout. There is a report on strokes in which about 61 people died of stroke. Half of those adverse events were within 48 hours of the injection. There's a report on...

Can I stop you on that, Naomi? Can I stop you on the stroke front? Because you caught my attention with that. And Kelly, I wonder if you were seeing this as well but i i you know clinically you sort of pick up on patterns and and uh sort of when things sort of seem outlying and i gotta say i've seen a lot of you and we hear jamie fox may have had something and i don't get the vaccine or not but i've seen vaccinated folks young people have small vessel strokes in peculiar parts of the brain and and it is it just caught my attention you know because it's so odd it's so i mean it's just you know back in the day if somebody had something like that you just go oh that's drug use cocaine

something you know that's it you know young people don't get this but i've seen it outside of that setting now quite a bit um so i'm just wondering kelly if you've seen that outside of that setting now quite a bit. So I'm just wondering, Kelly, if you've seen that at all. Oh, yeah. And I think if you talk across the board, if we look at the numbers, even if you don't want to say it's related to the vaccines, you need an explanation for why we are seeing a precipitous increase in these incidents of, as you said, unusual strokes, both hemorrhagic and ischemic strokes, by the way, both, you know, from bleeding

and from clots in the same way that we are seeing. Thrombotic. I've seen thrombotic. That's what my observation. I've seen bleeding. I've not seen anabolic, I've seen thrombotic. I've seen I've seen thrombotic and hemorrhagic strokes, both. Can I jump in and go ahead and share what I know about that?

So in the Pfizer documents, there are like at industrial scale neurological events and at industrial scale clotting events, thrombotic events, thrombocytopenia, blood clots, leg clots, lung clots, like tens of thousands in each category. And we know some of the mechanism now. And there's a report on my substack that Dr. Chris Flowers contributed, to which he contributed, about neurological

disorders. I kind of consider myself very lucky because I have a neurological disorder. And that was the reason I didn't take this mRNA injection because I thought, you know, nerves are so delicate and so much can go wrong. And I thought, I looked at the Mederna website and it boasted that this material gets into every cell in the body. And I thought, well, that is not a good idea. I'm not going to, that's too, you know, that is not likely to work with, with anything as delicate as, as a neurological condition. So what happens is the lipid nanoparticles, according to Dr. Flowers, degrade the myelin sheath. And so they make it harder for the electrical impulses

to be transmitted. And that deranges the processes that are otherwise regulated by a healthy nervous system. When it comes to the clotting events, there are various things going on. And I'm sure you've heard from the doctors about what the spike protein does. But again, I sometimes think I'm lucky not being a medical doctor because I don't have that special knowledge. What is the mechanism that Chris Flowers came up with?

Because we've heard, I forget, Kelly, who told us the one issue of the fibrinogen sort of regulators. What have you guys heard? So this is my research. But it's, it's been confirmed by the, by the team. Basically, I looked at the websites that are selling lipid nanoparticles, and these are an industrial fat covered with polyethylene glycol, and you can order them by the box. And they come from China, of course. So they are liquid at very cold temperatures. And you remember the rollout, the drama around they're transported in sub-zero temperatures. And that's correct. They're liquid at very cold temperatures.

They solidify at room temperature. And thus, they solidify at body temperature. So Dr. Flowers has confirmed that they aggregate. It's mechanical. They are accumulating in the blood. They're going through the body. They're crossing the blood-brain barrier. They're clumping.

And that is one mechanism. I don't know that that's the only mechanism. And then I looked at the instructions that are being given about how to store these materials and they change over time um you know initially they were like keep it in a super cold supersonic cold freezer uh and then it was like you know keep it in a normal freezer and then it was like you can leave it out for two hours and then you can leave it out for 12 hours so the case I've made that goes along with my conviction that this is a bioweapon is you can injure people by doing things as simple as changing the brand, injure or kill.

The brand with Moderna having three times the active ingredients, 100 micrograms of Pfizer, or by something as simple as the dose, they wanted to give children 100 micrograms, right? You give a 90-pound little girl who's 11 the same dose as a 150-pound overweight, six-foot-tall, 11-year-old. Well, I'm crushing my categories there, but basically there's no titrating for size, right? So you can give a small person the same dose as a big person and, or give a woman, a small woman, the same dose as a giant man. And the small woman is going to have more problems, which may be one contributing factor to how overrepresented women are in these injuries and deaths. And the last thing you can do is you can just hurt people through, you know, changing the directions about storage or how long material can stay out because this

material is not stable and it changes depending on the temperature. Let me jump in here and comment on a couple of things that we just were discussing. Number one, with regard to your finding or your observation, I should say, with regard to arthritis or inflammatory issues, joint pain and muscle pain, we know that these vaccines have been inducing autoimmune responses and not infrequently,

the area that the body will attack is the synovium, the lining of joints. It's one of the mechanisms of autoimmune responses. So I think this may well be an autoimmune mediated issue. With regard to that clotting issue that Drew was talking about and what's the mechanism for that, many people believe it's because the spikes embed or attach to the lining of the vessel walls, the endothelium, and they end up causing a little bump on the inside of the blood vessel, bump, if you will, or a little, you know, that spike sticking out, which gives a place

for platelets then to glom on and it causes a nidus for a clot to form. And I think that that is very, very plausible and consistent with what the pathologists are seeing. One thing I want to throw out there, and you can choose to not go down this road if you don't want, but I read back in the day, back in the 80s, when the original Margaret Atwood novel, The Handmaid's Tale, came out. And for those who hadn't read it originally, it's a post-dystopian, it's a post-modern dystopian novel about something that occurs, we're not told exactly what, that has rendered the vast, vast majority of the population of women to be infertile. And therefore, there are only a small number of people left who are capable of bearing healthy children. And it goes down that dystopian path. I find it

somewhat perhaps just coincident that that was made into a mini series and posted for over the period of the three years prior to the COVID pandemic. And I wonder if it has occurred to you at all how interesting it is that we are looking now at a time when perhaps we will see a huge percentage of the female population infertile. Right. Honestly, with each of these reports coming out, and now it's stroke, kidney, and liver, and anaphylaxis, all four of those had women grossly overrepresented in addition to the reproductive disorders I described. I'm honestly, like the monsters who coordinated all of this, I'm honestly beginning to think that doing away with women, at least in the numbers

that women are, in which women are now represented is part of the plan. The same people who invested in vaccines, censored voices that were criticizing the vaccines, the big tech bros, they're in lab grown milk, they're invested in artificial wombs, you know, they're very excited about creating and sustaining life under technological control and not organically. And I will say one other thing about, so, you know, the scale, I mean, when Ellen Jasmer told me that she doesn't have a normal placenta to show me anymore, that is so chilling, right? And her population is

very well-educated, eating organic food, you food, healthier than the average population. So something catastrophic has already happened to the human species. She also showed me what you described, Dr. Cole, describing a tiny placenta, right? And I said, well, how big is a normal placenta? He showed a circumference of like two inches wider is a normal placenta. So these shrunken placentas. I think that like what tech CEOs, they make their money through something they like to call disruption. And if you're in California, you know these people. And disruption is a good word, meaning you take something that everyone has access to, like their immune system, or the sun, or, you know, being able to grow, you know, vegetable garden in their backyard. And if you disrupt it, so that people

have to get that thing through your paywall or your service in other words you dropped Main Street through lockdowns everyone needs to buy a meal kit the tech bros were investing in meal kits you disrupt playgrounds everyone has to go online children and play Nintendo Nintendo went up 23% I mean over and over and over you see this ideology of looking around and thinking, what are people doing for free by themselves that we can disrupt? I mean, I think of Eloquus, right, which is this blood thinner. And Pfizer bought it for a billion dollars, which it was not worth five years ago. And they said five years ago when questioned, why are you spending so much?

They said in five years, this is gonna be a multi-billion dollar industry. Well, it dissolves blood clots, right? So these are monsters. And I think they're perfectly capable of making us sicker so that they can boost their bottom line. And they're perfectly capable of like, what do humans do without any help?

They have sex and they have babies, right? I mean, yes, you can have interventions. I've written a book about it to make it more likely that you'll have Pitocin or you'll have, you know, you'll have to go to the hospital, you'll be hooked up to a monitor, you know, you'll have to have a C-section. But, you know, human beings left to their own devices for millennia have had sexual intercourse and have had overwhelmingly healthy babies, you know, and why not disrupt that? And so what you're saying, you know, there's a difference between being opportunistic, seeing an opportunity and creating a business model or a product to fit that niche. There's a difference in developing that business model, that niche, and then driving people to it because you create the very problem that will cause them to need your product. There's a significant difference in those things. Well, to you and me, one is ethical and the other is beyond the pale, but I promise you that for people in the tech and pharma and biomedical and data harvesting space, which are all the same space now, that line does not exist anymore.

And it's just innovative to redo society so that you get to make money by the control that you've placed on people's access to things that used to be just taken for granted as part of being human. I mean, the way I put it in the bodies of others is what the lockdowns and the vaccine passport drive and the vaccines and the tracking of vaccines did was put and the mandates and the kind of, you know, two-tier society is it put a paywall between human beings and human society, right? I, you know, I couldntier society is it put a paywall between human beings and human society, right? I, you know, I couldn't sit in a restaurant with my kids in New York. That's the paywall, right? You have to get the vaccine in order to just sit with your family. So that's one thing. But the other thing not to forget, we haven't gone into it in too much detail, is that, you know, I say this is a bioweapon.

BioNTech, which is the subsidiary of Pfizer that created this injection, is in a memorandum of understanding, which means like a partnership with the Chinese Communist Party, an entity called Fosun Pharmaceuticals, which created a billion doses. They are not for the Chinese people. They don't take this vaccine. They're for export. And the Chinese Communist Party also built 14 manufacturing plants in Western Europe and two in the United States, one in Springfield, Massachusetts, and one very close by in Princeton, New Jersey. And there's also an SEC filing in 2021, which anyone can look at, from BioNTech, which shows 100% completed IP transfer and tech transfer to China. Not a Chinese individual, not a Chinese company.

It says to China, to the country of China. What this means is now when you get a Pfizer injection, everything from the manufacturer, the IP, the ingredients, the production, the quality control, the distribution is in the hands of our existential adversary. And I promise I'm almost done as my husband, Brian O'Shea, who is in military intelligence and informs me a lot about these issues, has pointed out China wants our land. They want our food supply. They want our food supply. They want our natural resources. They don't want our population. I want to interrupt real quick. If I could.

Okay. If I could. Susan, I'm surprised your hair didn't stand up straight on end with what Naomi just said, because Susan has talked to your husband. I heard her. And whenever you, Brent, mention this issue, this is what she gets very excited about. I love this couple. But let me just, I have to push back.

That's my job here. Let me just push back on the Eliquis deal. I prescribe Eliquis all the time. There's almost nothing associated with the vaccine other than pulmonary embolus, which is also associated with COVID itself, for which I am prescribing Eliquis. I'm prescribing it all the time in elderly patients for all sorts of things.

It's an excellent medicine. It's taken us away from Coumadin, which is a medicine that was cumbersome and required daily management and all kinds of blood draws and things. So Eliquis was a major, major advancement in anticoagulation. And with the population, the reason, and I will say, the reason they said it was gonna be such a monstrous drug is that as you get older, your probability of being on anticoagulant goes up exponentially. And so it is, the problem with the drug, I don't know, Kelly, if you've seen this,

but I've seen it certainly, it's a sulfa drug. And so if you have sulfa allergies, you can get these horrific reactions from it. But otherwise, it's a major advancement from Coumadin. But I am prescribing it with pulmonary embolus, which I've seen both in the setting of COVID and I believe the setting of the vaccine as well. So that is my medical experience. Kelly, your thoughts? I would say the same. But to Naomi's point, you have something that we are seeing an exponential increase in issues of clotting and therefore a huge increase in the use of Eloquist. I agree with you. It's a preferred

drug for blood clots compared to Coumadin and the others that came before it. But suffice to say, we are using it more and more because we are seeing more and more issues of clotting, DVTs and blood clots to the lung and elsewhere. Our time's winding down, so I wanted to ask Naomi before we lose it here that you've talked about that very clearly. You saw evidence that they knew ahead of time of the impact on fertility. It's very clear that they knew in advance of the impact on the myocardium, that the increased risk of myocarditis. It's pretty clear that they knew about the potential for some neurologic issues.

Are you seeing any indication that they knew or contemplated this problem we are seeing now with the increase in cancer risk, which is specifically a suppression of the immune system and therefore the suppression of your body to recognize and eradicate atypical cells before they come a cancer. Did you uncover anything that would lead you to believe that they were aware of that risk? So we've got a micro report on turbo cancers and I refer people to it. The team has identified the mechanism for turbo cancers in their view.

I believe, and again, forgive me team if I'm getting this wrong, but it has to do with pseudouridine. So I refer you all to the micro report on turbo cancers. You can see it on dailycloud.io. But we do have something called Abstractor. And I recommend that you, and as I mentioned, Dr. Chris Flowers is an oncologist. So I'll have him respond in the chat after this to get more details. But when you look at what's in the ingredients, you know, there's a petroleum byproduct in the ingredients. And there's something called SM-102 in Moderna, and that is a

carcinogen. So this is not what is in the micro report. This is just my own observation. I do know that if you use Abstractor, which is a search tool that was built by one of our volunteers, you can search all of the Pfizer documents for cancer and you can get results that will answer I'm interested in whether they knew it ahead of time, was that people who are vaccinated have a disproportionate shift in the amount of one specific immunoglobulin, IgG4. And the job of IgG4 is to tell your body, it doesn't behoove you to respond with anaphylaxis or to respond to every single pathogen that comes along. Otherwise, every piece of pollen or dust or things you can't even expose to, you'd fall apart. So IgG4's job is in layman's terms to tell you to ignore those things. You know, yes, it's foreign, Naomi, but, but don't respond to it. If you have a disproportionate increase in that, however, your body starts letting a lot of things go by. It turns a blind eye to a lot of things, things it shouldn't turn a blind eye to, like that abnormal breast cell, that abnormal colon cell, that abnormal whatever, that is going to then become. And so these turbo cancers, for those

people who haven't heard that term, these are cancers on steroids. They just go crazy where people go from diagnosis to coffin in a matter of weeks. I mean, literally, they just absolutely have these rampant cancers. And I just was interested in whether there was any evidence that these folks knew about that component of it prior to launching this thing onto the public. What you're describing sounds familiar to me, but I don't have the report in front of me, but I would, I'm asking my colleague to please have Amy Kelly shoot Susan the report on turbo cancers. And you will get that very quickly. Fantastic. What else, you know, as I

watch the clock here, what are, what are what are the things that you want people to hear, not only about both of your most recent books, and this assault, not just really it's an assault on women for sure, but is an assault on humanity, and I don't think that's too strong to say. What are the other things you would like to talk about with regard to these Pfizer documents? Well, thank you, Dr. Victory. I mean, it's so hard to reach that point of concluding that, but it takes courage. So I appreciate that. There's no other conclusion to reach. I guess I want to say two things, if I may. One is that the answer, like it's very easy to just despair because of the enormous scale of this crime and how pervasive and effective the criminals are.

But we in the United States have been waging a pretty effective fight back with just a very small number of very courageous people and, you know, some thousands of supporters across the country. We've been fighting back to pass legislation to ban vaccine passports state by state. We've been fighting to strip impunity from the drug companies legislatively. We've got a lawyer, George Smith in Ohio, who has a judge now who's going to hear our case against Pfizer. Our lawyers have found multiple crimes, not just fraud, but RICO crimes, manslaughter, battery. I believe trafficking is also a crime, you know, false advertising, a range of crimes. But I guess what I want to say is the effective fights. And so we're freer now in the United States than they are in Canada, in Australia, in Western Europe.

But it's not it didn't just happen. It's because people like, you know, us, you know, have been fighting so hard and risking so much to tell the truth and also to advocate effectively. So it takes everybody. Don't leave it to the leaders. The most effective fight is at a grassroots level. So on my site, Daily Clout, there's a form or a webinar rather by James Ostrowski, a lawyer that teaches you how to file civil and criminal charges at the local level against that principal who masked your child against that, you know, file charges with the sheriff. If someone has mandated this injection, that is a criminal offense. So, but it, it takes all of us. We cannot be silent. And it takes also just honesty. You know, so many people are silent because they're

afraid of losing their job or losing their, you know, place in the community. Well, you know, I've studied history and if that's what you're afraid of, things are going to get much worse. So you have to face those fears and speak out. I guess the other thing I would say, I'm not proselytizing, this is very personal, but I have come to believe that, I've come to believe in God more literally than I used to before all this happened, because the evil that I see is so beyond human capacity. It's so orchestrated. It's so coordinated. It's so impeccable. And human evil just isn't that flawless. You know, there's always a faction

or a backstabber or a, you know, someone who's angry at Hitler, you know. And so this is a, I've concluded that this is a metaphysical, that we're in a battle that's metaphysical between good and evil, in addition to everything else on a material and political level. So I personally, I'm not proselytizing, I'm Jewish, you're not allowed to proselytize. But I personally have come to believe that prayer is a technology and that we can't get out of this by ourselves and that we can only get out of it by, you know, asking for help from, you know, from God. Well, I happen to, as Drew knows, I happen to agree with you. And I think this is the fundamental, I feel, I said, I feel like I'm living the book of revelations on a daily basis right now. And I also have frequently quoted throughout this entire three years, the words of John Milton, which is virtue untested is no virtue at all. You're right. This is a time to be brave. We all have something to lose, a lot to lose, but none of this could have occurred were it not for number one, the complicity of physicians, the fact that physicians bought into it or allowed themselves to be bamboozled by it,

or didn't have the courage to stand up and say, no. I also remind people all the time that a mandate is not a law. A recommendation is not a law. A requirement is not a law. Okay. So if people just say, you can have all the mandates you want. I'm not doing it. I'm not wearing a mask. You can't do that. And the Nuremberg Code and the Helsinki Declaration allowed for the fact that you cannot be mandated to participate in an experiment. That is a law. The law says you cannot be mandated to participate in an experiment. These vaccines are only available in an experimental form. All of them are only available under the emergency use authorization. They are not FDA approved, and mandating it is a direct violation of the Nuremberg Code and the Helsinki Declaration.

And people need to know that and stand up and have the guts, and it's guts at this point, to say no. Yeah, 100%. I agree with you. Everything you said is true, and I'm cheering. You're absolutely right. Thank you for saying it over and over. It needs to be said. Ladies, thank you so much. Naomi, always very interesting to speak with you. And I look forward to reading your analysis. Again, let's put the book up there if you could so people can have one last peek at it.

Let's get it from Kay. Okay, there we are. It's the Pfizer Documents Analysis Report. And I'll point out a couple things. I mean, we are lucky that Omicron is not as severe as the initial wave of this pandemic, and that is a good thing. And we are lucky that people are where the mandates are waning because they were outrageous. And regardless of your metaphysical position on what Kelly and Naomi were discussing, it does not obviate the need to study history, everybody.

You need to study history. Humans go through cycles like this. And I'm telling you, we've been here before. And as everyone's been championing, words like courage and bravery and freedom need to be on our lips all the time right now, which is something I never expected. And as we started Naomi and my conversation, the fact that we are in this time has created strange Ben fellows amongst people who are politically disaligned over,

over the last 30 years, suddenly finding a common, common reason to, to hang together. So Naomi is always, thank you so much and hopefully good luck with all this. And we're going to wrap up Kelly. Anything, any last words? We're going to quickly take a Twitter space person. Okay. As well.

Kevin's a bit. Oh, that's right. So this is, I wanted to mention the collective consciousness and prayer. And I totally believe in that too. I think we all need to put our heads together and yes and uh kelly i'm gonna i'm gonna let you go because this is it we're gonna do a little uh discussion about something that my daughter and i are doing in washington dc i mean she can stay if she wants if you want to but i don't you know i want everybody to hear this i'll let you i'll let you i'll let you talk about this thing with pauline i think it's great and i will see you on Thursday this week

for our next show with Scott Adams. Yeah, that's gonna be very interesting. Have you interviewed Scott before? I have not, I have not. We have exchanged some things on social media, but I have not interviewed him before. So really looking forward to that. So I am looking forward to that exchange

in particular i always like talking to scott but he's a friend and i think you you guys could be very interesting uh reminder uh asim al-hatra is coming in on the 25th robert malone on the 26th uh let's see kevin bass uh may 2nd carol roth on may 16th these are some of the upcoming guests but i think the the headlines are scott adams on thursday uh asim al-hatra on May 16th. These are some of the upcoming guests, but I think the headlines are Scott Adams on Thursday, Asim Malhotra on the 25th, and Malone on the 26th. Kelly, thank you. I'm going to bring my guest up here in just a second, all right? Great. Cheers.

Thank you so much. And this Kevin Sabet, who I just asked to come up and speak, is the director of SANE Approaches to Marijuana. I don't want to get it. It's SAM. Yeah, it's S-A-M. Let him tell everybody. Yes, I will invite to speak.

There it is. I'm inviting him. And so, Kevin, you just kind of hit your mic or phone in the lower left-hand corner there. And he has invited my daughter, who has an interesting story around cannabis, to present down in Washington, D.C. And we were in New York this week, so we thought we would join them, and I'll have some opening

comments as well. Kevin, do me a favor. Just push the... Caleb, put the cartoon... Oh, there he is. Okay, we've got him now. Kevin, welcome. Uh-oh. You have to unmute yourself, Kevin. He's in a car too so oh sorry about everybody can you hear me we got you back hey so tell us about the event oh good well i'm excited to be on well we're taking back 420 you know 420 we all know haha stoner holiday uh and you know i think for too long we're taking this discussion of marijuana a little bit too casually as a country.

And it's resulting in a lot of harm. We don't want to see people in prison for marijuana. I really could care less if you're a 60-year-old dude and you want to smoke a joint in your country house, you know, on a July Saturday. It's not about that. It's about the idea that we are commercializing levels of THC that do not resemble cannabis at all. They don't resemble, you know, what people smoked in the 60s either. It's a whole new genetically bred product. And we're just we're kind of diving headfirst into something we know very little about.

And it's already having some pretty bad consequences. So on April 20th, we're doing an event where we're really lucky and thrilled to have you and Paulina as one of our special guests. And we're going to be there at the historic African-American Miracle Theater in Washington, D.C. And I think it's going to be great. We're looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to it too. It'd be good to see you. And yeah, that is the concern is that we have, as you know, I've been a little agnostic on this topic, except the fact that I've wanted a rational conversation about this drug, like every drug.

I feel the same way. There's no different than any other chemical that humans interact with. But I hope there would be, once some of the political energy settled, that there would be rational conversation. I've yet to see that conversation that I've been looking for. So hopefully we can help generate some of that. And yes, big tobacco is taking over big cannabis.

And I don't think people quite understand how that's going to go. Yeah, no, exactly. I was just just an interview for a documentary a little bit ago, an hour ago here. And I'm in Vancouver right now, British Columbia, where there's a long history like the Bay Area, you know, sort of counterculture marijuana use. And I just said the irony is that, you know, what the counterculture wanted is ushering in exactly what they never wanted, which is really the mass corporatization and commercialization of marijuana. And that's the big irony here. And there are real consequences. So we're going to talk a lot about that. And I do think people are starting little by little by little to wake up for no other reason, because sometimes you have to burn your finger, your hand on the stove to realize the stove's hot. And you heard Cory Booker, of all people, who's been a long-time marijuana apologist and legalizer,

who I really like as a person and who I've met many times, he admitted for the first time publicly, he said, you know what, I am kind of concerned about this stuff, actually, especially for kids. And in some ways, maybe that couldn't happen if we didn't sort of go to this extreme that we're at right now of acceptance. But there are a lot of lives being negatively affected. That's a big cost that we're paying for these lessons. And do you want to send somebody anywhere on the Internet or where they can find more or watch or whatever?

Yeah, they can go to LearnAboutSam.org, and we have information about the conference there. You can watch it virtually. Also, everyone's more than welcome to register to do that. Of course, if you're in Washington, please join us and yeah, learnaboutsam.org. All right, Kevin. I will see you in Washington what, tomorrow? Is it tomorrow already?

Tomorrow night. Yeah, see you tomorrow night. All right, I'll see you there. Thank you. Can't wait. All right, everybody. Safe travel. Kevin Sabet, everybody. And Susan, see you tomorrow night. All right, I'll see you there. Thank you. Can't wait. All right, everybody. Safe travel. Kevin Sabat, everybody. And Susan, are you all good to wrap up here? Everything cool? You've tapped into the collective consciousness to try to fight evil, I hope. Everybody pray. By the way, I don't mind that construct because let's get everybody thinking about doing what's good and right.

How can that be bad? Yes. get everybody thinking about doing what's good and right i think that how can that be bad yes and also i was just gonna say i'm trying to write learn about sam on on this thing and it keeps going stam hold on i'm trying to put the organization up but um learn about sam add um i just want to say i was i was kind of astounded when we were at something and saw somebody start dabbing right in front of us. And I didn't know what it was, really. But I was like, what the fuck is that? Like, what is that? It just shocked me that people are, you know,

using marijuana in such a potent form. Blows my mind. I mean, it's like pulling out a crack pipe, you know, in the middle of a... It's weird. Listen, if Paulina hadn't gone through what she did um i wouldn't be so aware of it yeah because i don't smoke pot but um no but i just want our kids say weed it's no longer called weed sorry yeah dude rasta um but i just i just hope that people understand that the marijuana nowadays could be laced with stuff and it also has a different potency

you're not really controlling it if you're getting it off the street it's frankly a reason to not buy it off the street and buy it at a shop so to speak but they are putting fentanyl in there sometimes and it's almost like so strong it's like hallucinogenic so that's what i've been told as well that's true people don't understand

and that damages your brain that potentially when it's that kind of precipitate i don't know it just worries me there was argument in the past about whether it could precipitate certain psychiatric pathology that now it's very clear that it does so that's no longer a sort of a question it's we've answered that it was in in actually Alex Bannerson, the parents in his book, tell your children sometime ago, he speculated about this or actually showed the data that has been well confirmed.

So in any event, we all thank you all for being here today. We are going to wrap it up. As Kelly said, we are back on Thursday. Is it three o'clock Pacific? We're doing it the regular time. Yes.

Thursday, Thursday, three o'clock. Cause we'll be getting off a train from D.C. and then hop in. If there's any hang up or anything, Kelly will be with Dr. Scott. With Scott.

Dr. Kelly will be with Scott. I want to see that. Are we doing something on Friday also? Yes, we're going to have callers at this point. Unless we can drum up Cat Tim for something. And is that also at 6 o'clock Eastern, 3 Pacific? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

Right, Caleb? We're going to bring Caleb into this like we always do. We screw up at the end. I am now refusing to participate in the end of show games. Let me look at my schedule. No, it's true. I see it as, oh, there's that other thing I have to do. I know.

It's going to be here, I think. Okay. All right. So 3 o'clock Pacific as it stands on Friday and 3 o'clock Pacific on Thursday for sure. We're trying to give you all the Dr. Drew you can get. Right. And we will see you then. Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Caleb Nation and Susan Pinsky. Thank you. I'm not practicing medicine here. Always remember that our understanding of medicine and science is constantly evolving.

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