Ask Dr. Drew - Navy SEAL Exposes Human Trafficking & Organ Harvesting Rings: Remi Adeleke on New Film "The Unexpected" – Ask Dr. Drew – Episode 131

Episode Date: October 3, 2022

Remi Adeleke is a former Navy SEAL whose film "The Unexpected" (WATCH HERE) exposes the true story of human trafficking victims of an international organ harvesting ring. But Remi's story begins long before his career as a SEAL and filmmaker: he spent his childhood as Nigerian royalty, until the death of his father and the stripping of his family's wealth sent Remi and his mother to a life of poverty in the Bronx. 「 LINKS FROM THIS SHOW: https://drdrew.com/9292022 」 Remi Adeleke is part of the upcoming FOX series "Special Forces: The Ultimate Test" which features Dr. Drew! Hear more of Remi's story on The Dr. Drew Podcast: https://drdrew.com/2022/remi-adeleke-episode-552/ In his memoir ("Transformed"), Remi doesn’t shy away from the illegal activities that threatened to derail his future. How could a person with this past end up where he is now? And to go a step further, how could a person who barely graduated high school, couldn’t swim, act or lead find great success in areas that require such skills? Having gone through times of intense struggle, pressure, and failure, Adeleke answers those questions in his inspiring story of overcoming the odds, even when it didn’t make sense, and ultimately experiencing true personal transformation. Follow Remi at https://www.instagram.com/remiadeleke and https://twitter.com/RemiAdeleke 「 SPONSORED BY 」 • GENUCEL - Using a proprietary base formulated by a pharmacist, Genucel has created skincare that can dramatically improve the appearance of facial redness and under-eye puffiness. Genucel uses clinical levels of botanical extracts in their cruelty-free, natural, made-in-the-USA line of products. Get 10% off with promo code DREW at https://genucel.com/drew 「 ABOUT the SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. 「 GEAR PROVIDED BY 」 • BLUE MICS - After more than 30 years in broadcasting, Dr. Drew's iconic voice has reached pristine clarity through Blue Microphones. But you don't need a fancy studio to sound great with Blue's lineup: ranging from high-quality USB mics like the Yeti, to studio-grade XLR mics like Dr. Drew's Blueberry. Find your best sound at https://drdrew.com/blue • ELGATO - Every week, Dr. Drew broadcasts live shows from his home studio under soft, clean lighting from Elgato's Key Lights. From the control room, the producers manage Dr. Drew's streams with a Stream Deck XL, and ingest HD video with a Camlink 4K. Add a professional touch to your streams or Zoom calls with Elgato. See how Elgato's lights transformed Dr. Drew's set: https://drdrew.com/sponsors/elgato/ 「 ABOUT DR. DREW 」 For over 30 years, Dr. Drew has answered questions and offered guidance to millions through popular shows like Celebrity Rehab (VH1), Dr. Drew On Call (HLN), Teen Mom OG (MTV), and the iconic radio show Loveline. Now, Dr. Drew is opening his phone lines to the world by streaming LIVE from his home studio. Watch all of Dr. Drew's latest shows at https://drdrew.tv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome, everybody. Very excited about today's show. I'm going to introduce you to someone who figured large into my experience out in the Wadi Rum Desert. You'll be seeing us. He's a principal figure in the Special Forces show we did. You'll see that on Fox this January, where we were essentially special ops recruits. And the actual Special Forces trainers had their way with us. And Ramey was one of those people. But we are not here to talk about that today. We will, of course, clue you in. We'll tell you his story.

But to get the full story, you have to go to drdrew.com and see the Dr. Drew podcast where he and I review his whole story in great detail, which we'll sort of thumbnail a bit today. Remy Adelike has a new project. It is shining a light on human trafficking and organ harvesting. Susan and Caleb have both been exposed to the project and are shaken by it. There it is, The Unexpected. We're going to talk about where you can get that, where you can see that, right after this. Our laws as it pertains to substances are draconian and bizarre.

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at the rumble rant and i'm watching the Twitter spaces where we will be taking your calls a little bit later. In fact, if you're interested in how we're going to parse these out, I may let you ask Remy a few questions as well. Remy Adelike is a Jack Harry member of the military, served 13 years as a U S Navy seal. The many extraordinary aspects about him being a Navy seal,

not the least of which prior prior to becoming a SEAL, he did not know how to swim. Oh, there we go. Sorry that that keeps happening. That happens to me even when I put the block on my thing here. Did you shut off the sound on your phone? Yes, it's very weird. There is his book, Transformed, and he was indeed transformed,

but I'm going to let him tell a little bit about that story. And most importantly today, we're going to talk about the book about human trafficking. Remy spent early childhood as Nigerian royalty, he'll tell you that story, until the death of his father and then his mother came to live in the Bronx and he has an astonishing story of transformation, again, in Transformed, a Navy SEAL's unlikely journey from the throne of Africa to the streets of the Bronx to defying all odds, all the way to being, you know, to finding him in the Wadi Rum desert of Jordan. Rami Adelike, welcome to the program. Thank you for being here. And thank you for your service as well.

Let me say something. Ramey Adelike, welcome to the program. Thank you for being here. And thank you for your service as well. Let me say something. Something you'll hear him say more than once. You'll hear this a couple of times while we're out there in the desert with him. And it's something that we all pay the man. That's what we do. You know, it's interesting. I was watching. That's right i was watching uh the new the new uh top gun film i was on a plane yesterday i watched it and i noticed uh they they

used a familiar language when they were getting shot down in their war games they would just go fail fail fail i was like fail oh no what are we gonna have to do it's like and then they got the push-ups then they got the push i thought okay i know what that is fail you hear that word you're like oh what's next it's gonna be something so uh tell them if you don't mind the the again i refer everyone go to drdrew.com and get the Dr. Drew podcast, which dropped today, where we go into great detail about Remy's life. And we'll get into, I said, a thumbnail of it now. But I want mostly today to talk about the movie and how to get it. Let's just state it up front.

Where do they find the movie? What's it about? Where do they get it? And then we'll tell a little thumbnail about you. The movie can be found on YouTube tonight at 9 p.m. Pacific Standard Time. That's 12 a.m. Eastern Standard Time. That's 12 a.m. Eastern Standard Time. Just go to my YouTube channel, Remy Adelake,

or you could just search The Unexpected Phil. That's what it'll be. The Unexpected Phil. I'm going to do it right now to make sure it is really easy and expected. Okay. I also have a link on drdrew.com. easy and expected okay and we have all the links there do that because if you right on your page. All right, do that. Because if you Google, if you fill in a Google search,

other stuff starts flying in the way of it. So yeah, do that. Come to our page, link through, or go to Remy's page and link through. Drew likes to get those plugs out of the way. Well, no, I want to make sure that anyone that's here hears it, and we'll tell them again, and we'll tell them again, because I want them to go see this thing. Exactly.

Well, it's dropping tomorrow, right? The nine o'clock tonight is that right nine o'clock tonight yeah nine o'clock midnight midnight eastern time so it's tomorrow technically in the east it's nine o'clock tonight here and susan uh just to put one more plug out there you saw the trailer is that what you saw i think so and well no i saw the first episode i think or parts of it it was very well done and she freaked out really interesting but oh yeah just it's it enter at your own risk you know it's really good but it's it's also frightening and it's an eye-opening experience so you have to and you know reality is just something that everybody needs to experience. Well, yeah.

And okay, let's talk about Remy first. We'll talk about how he got into this topic in just a minute. But give them the thumbnail on your story again, where you came from, how you evolved, how you ended up where you are now. Great, great, cool. I'll try to do this in under two minutes. So I was born into riches and wealth in Nigeria. My dad was a well-known Nigerian engineer, philanthropist, businessman, you name it, he did it. So when I came along, I came along into riches. He was also chief in the Yoruba tribe,

which is a status of royalty. However, in 1987, the Nigerian government stripped our family of absolutely everything. And my dad died days later, sending us from very, very rich to very, very poor. My mom being an American, she was like, there's no way I'm raising my two kids here in Nigeria. So she permanently relocated my brother and I to the United States. And as I kind of began to grow up,

I got involved in a lot of bad activities, started out stealing from my mom and that progressed to stealing from stores, that progressed to stealing from jobs, that progressed to selling drugs. And then before you knew it, I was 19 and running high level scams. I was totally influenced by the street life and street culture. Ended up getting involved in a deal with a drug dealer that went bad. Sold him some products that were supposed to last for a certain amount of time, only lasted for a fraction of that time. And he came and threatened my life.

And at the same time, there were people getting prosecuted and sent to federal prison for the same stuff that I was doing, but I was able to evade that. So fast forward to June of 2002, I made the decision to join the Navy. Couldn't swim, didn't have the academic scores and was skinny as a whip, but I said I wanted to be a frogman. Although I had two warrants out for my arrest, which the recruiter discovered, and she took me to both judges and had both judges expunge my record.

And then she went a step further and fudged the paperwork to sneak me into the Navy. She would die two years later, but it was that one act that she did for me that totally changed the trajectory of my life. Then she got to boot camp, got into SEAL training. It was the hardest thing I ever went through in my entire life. The class I eventually graduated from was so hard.

I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know what you're talking about. I'm confused. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I went to – you guys had Bud's Light. I had Bud's Heavy, basic underwater demolition SEAL training. And the class that I graduated started with 270. Only 29 of us graduated, which is the same for every class of Tricia Ridd,

about 80 to 90%. And, you know, eventually became a frogman and had a chance to travel the world and do cool things and operate and kick down doors and work on the intelligence side of things, human, which is human intelligence. So I got to kind of see behind the curtain a little bit as it related to intelligence gathering and three-letter agencies and spent 13 and a half years in, got out in 2016. And that's when my journey into Hollywood kind of started. And I don't actually really know a lot of detail about that. So I'm going to have you tell that story a little bit too, but I just want to put a highlight on two

things. So your intelligence training, you know, I think is really cool and interesting. And it kind of shined through to me a little bit when you were training us. I could feel that understanding operating. It's subtle, but I kind of know it when I see it, number one. And then number two, let's state that recruiter's name because that woman literally took you by the hand, went in front of the judges with you, laid herself on the line to literally say, I'm going to put this boy in the Navy, give him a chance. Two different judges and got them both to comply. Yeah. Tiana Nadine Reyes.

That's her name. And my daughter is somewhat named as a variation. So my daughter's name is Sienna because Tiana's daughter's name is Sierra. So we combine Sierra and Tiana to name my daughter Sienna and my daughter's middle name is Red. Tiana's last name was Red. So that's the way we pay homage. But Tiana Nadine Reyes, if you are blessed by my film or by the things I've done in this country or even, you know, by the TV stuff, just give the credit to Tiana because I would not be here without that decision she made. To me, there's a lot of breathtaking part of your story, but that's one of the moments where I'm like, oh my God, this woman. I mean, she, wow.

So tell me about your career in media. I obviously know some of it, but where is it? Where's your main stuff? Where can they find you? I know you do a lot of the technical advising too. So tell us about that. Yeah. Yeah, that was kind of where I started.

After I got out in 2016, I was actually in grad school getting my master's in organizational strategy slash business. And I was at my desk one day in May of 2016, just writing papers and my phone rang. And on the other end of the phone was a woman who worked for Michael Bay. And she said, hey, Bay's looking for somebody with your background to work on Transformers the last night. And I said, sure, I don't have anything going on.

I'm just writing papers. So one day turned into three weeks and three weeks turned into six months on that film. And that's where my career began to kind of my life began to go down the direction of film and TV. I started consulting and acting on other projects and that kind of morphed into writing after I wrote my book, my memoir, Transform, which I didn't have a ghostwriter, co-writer, I wrote it myself. And then that kind of transposed into writing screenplays, which turned into me producing stuff, which turned into me hosting stuff, which turned into me now writing and directing this film on human trafficking

and then the feature version, which hopefully we'll have soon. So now what are we doing here? I'm looking at a three-book deal. Is that still happening? Is that since the original book? Yeah. Wow. Yeah, so I just signed an idea. I just turned in book one about a month ago, and my publisher just emailed me today a marketing pitch to the marketers. I turned in a book and we're done with editing and everything. That's going to be, we're releasing that next year.

It's going to be a big process. You're going to let me help you push that out, right? Absolutely. Absolutely. Donnie, I know if I don't, you'll make me pay the man. Look, as I've explained to you once before,

there's a weird hypnotic connection that develops between staff and recruit. So you just, whatever you say, it's yes, staff. Whatever it might be. Mike Piazza messaged me on Instagram, I want to say two days ago. We were going back and forth with the way he ended it. He was like, yes, Dad. I'm kind of like, who are you talking to, man? I'm telling you, it is in us. It is in us.

Mission accomplished, guys. Let me give the list of people that are out there with us. It was Mel B, Danny Amendola, Hannah Brown, Tyler Florence, Kate Gosling, Dwight Howard, Montel Jordan, Gus Kenworthy, I can explain who everybody is if you want, Nastia Lukin, Carly Lloyd, Beverly Mitchell, Kenya Moore, Mike Piazza, and Scaramucci and Jamie Lynn Spears.

There's the group. There's the group of us. That was the day before we went in and things started happening. When your life changed forever. Danny is a wide receiver for the, or I think a slot receiver technically for the Patriots. Hannah Brown, Bachelorette. Tyler Florence is the

food truck guy on Food Channel. Kate Gosling, K plus 8. Dwight Howard Laker, Montel Jordan, this is how we do it. Gus Kenworthy is a skier. Nastia Lukin is the gold medalist in the parallel bars and gymnastics. Carly Lloyd is a skier. Nastya Lukin is the gold medalist in the parallel bars and gymnastics.

Carly Lloyd is a soccer player. Beverly Mitchell, actress. Kenya Moore is housewife. And then Mike and Scaramucci needs no introduction. How long did it take to cast? I mean, did they do it like Drew was thrown in two weeks before? I don't think...

Do you know what the casting was like? Were you involved with you involved with that no no they don't involve us at all you know same with the uk series just like hey we just show we don't typically we don't find out who's who until you guys get off the bus or the train or whatever or whatever uh vehicle you guys are getting out so everything is fresh but what do you don't want to research? I totally get it. And, and I will just say, I think I can say this without divulging too much. When they pull the hoods off our head is when they find out. That's fantastic.

Oh my goodness. All right. So let's talk about the human trafficking. That's where I want the focus of our day to be spent. How did you get involved in this topic? Why this particular aspect of human trafficking why should people see the film yeah so when i get when i got out of 2016 i still felt this need this desire to serve in some way i've talked to a lot of other veterans

who feel the same way when they get out that sense of purpose there's a difference between having a job and serving so i wanted to find that way. And there were things, different things that were thrown my way. So I would go to inner city schools and juvenile centers and talk to the kids and hang out with the kids and bring them out of the hood and take them to nice restaurants to try and expose them to different things. I did prison work where I went into prisons, men and women's prisons and spoke and shared and did outreach there and then the reoccurring theme that kept on popping up was human trafficking where and I wasn't chasing it was like it just kept on coming my way in 2016 I want to say a nonprofit by

the name of without permission reached out to me asked me to be part of a rally they had heard my story and asked if I could come help out with their efforts in human trafficking then a year later Lindsay I believe her last name is Snyder, she's the owner of In-N-Out Burger, her nonprofit reached out to me, Slave to Nothing, and asked me if I would be willing to help out with a fundraiser if they would do it. So it just kept on coming up. And then fast forward to about 2017, 2018,

I was contacted by another human trafficking nonprofit that actually employs former special operations guys, whether you're DITTA, SEALs, Army Special Forces, Force Recon, and three-letter agency guys who go into other countries and rescue kids who are trapped in sex trafficking and organ harvesting, but also arrest Americans who go down to foreign countries to have sex with underage girls who are traffic victims. And that was a big eye-opening experience for me, especially being a father. I'll never forget, we met my wife.

And when I was pitched the opportunity to go do this, they sent me a video and me and my wife watched it. And she was just like, go. I know you're done with the seal thing. I know I told you you can hang that up, but you need to go do something. And so I went down there, and as I said, it was an eye-opening experience. And where the gears began to turn for me is I went down to Dominican Republic one year in 2018, July 2018, to be exact.

And when I was down there, I was in this particular slum where the parents would sell their daughters to sex traffickers. And the traffickers would sell their daughters to sex traffickers and and and and and and the traffickers would take the daughters to the northern part of DR where the tourists would come and these tourists would have sex with the underage girls we know that the profile for Americans who trap the profile for many travel abroad to have sex with underage kids are American men and so this took place in DR and when I was in this slum, I couldn't grasp the concept as a father of selling my child to a trafficker, no matter how desperate I was.

And our liaison recognized how kind of confused and perturbed I was. So he pulled me aside to help me better understand. And he took me into this chapel and this slum that was no bigger than the size of three toilet stalls. And at the end of the chapel was a dead baby, six month old baby in a casket. And he explained to me that the baby died because the mother wasn't getting enough food and water. So her breast milk dried up and therefore she mixed formula with the local water and that's what killed the baby. And he used that as a teaching moment for me to help me to understand that he was like, this is their plight. I'm not justifying why the parents do what they do, but they're desperate. So for them, it's either we sell our daughter to these traffickers or all of our kids die.

And again, that didn't make it wholly understandable to me, but it did give me a sense of understanding. And when I left DR on that trip and got back to the States, as soon as I landed, I had a voicemail by Michael Bay's producing partner, Mike Case. And he said, hey, Michael's looking for you because he's starting his next movie, Six Underground, on Netflix, and he wants you to be the lead consultant on it. And it was through that conversation, that situation, I got hired, I did the job. It was like these two worlds collided. In this world of human trafficking that I have been working in and out for about three years, and then film and TV that I have been working in during the same time. And in my mind, I was like, you know what, I can go down

to South America and other countries, even here in America, kick down 100 doors and rescue 300 kids. But at the end of the day, there's going to always be 100,000 more kids that need to be rescued. What can I do to have a bigger impact? And when we go overseas to do missions, I'm sure we discussed this while we were on the show, but when we go overseas to do missions, there's something called winning the hearts and the minds of the locals. And we use civil affairs units as well as psyops units, and they'll go into the local town and they'll, you know, rebuild schools. They'll hand out soccer balls. they'll rebuild soccer fields and so on and so forth and to win the hearts and minds so that the locals can help us do our job, help us find the bad guy, not hide the bad guy, so on and so forth. And so that's what I decided I wanted to do. I wanted to create a film, a piece of media

where I could put out into the ether and people can watch and be compelled to do something. They can watch, be shocked and say, oh my God, I didn't know that was happening and get engaged in a fight because it's a global issue. Human trafficking alone in America generates about 32 billion a year, globally about 150 billion a year. So it's a massive enterprise on track to surpass the drug trade and so for me that's where i felt like i could have the biggest impact and that's kind of how this film was birthed it's it's so it's you just you should you can't imagine how massive it is that's wild uh you know we think of human trafficking we mostly think about labor sort of slavish labor slave labor and the sex trafficking

you don't often think about the organ trafficking and how that whole world works. It always seems so fantastic, like, well, maybe somewhere out in the periphery. But your movie brings it home. Did you write, produce, and direct it? What were your roles in this? Yeah, I wrote, produced, consulted on, and directed the short film. And the reason why I wanted to make sure I had my hand in it, because I wanted it to be as authentic as possible. That film is based on true events. It's not some fiction or horror film that I pulled out of my

butt. It's based off of true events. I don't want to give away too much, but there was an event that took place August 3rd of 2014. I encourage anybody after they watch the film, but don't do it before you watch the film. Google it after you watch the film. Just Google August 3rd, 2014, and then genocide. And you'll see how that connects with the film because there are some events that took place at u.s u.s congress and even uh the u.n uh classified as genocide and the film uh deals with the victims of that genocide so it's based off of true events it's not something i pulled out of my ass though we wish it were just that i wish it was somebody's pulling on something real

we um we we've been doing some uh supporting eliza blue who's a friend of ours that does a lot on sex trafficking and sort of the and even when you start to raise awareness about the full spectrum of what that really is you know this the idea of how can i say this in a way that's accurate that it's not just the over-the-top explicit sex trafficking that is is there's all kinds of other flavors of it out there that people get manipulated into and 100 percent uh yeah and i know you know you brought up a great point you know and when typically as you said when people hear human trafficking they just think of sex trap trafficking for the most part yeah but

as you mentioned there's sex trafficking there's labor there's sex trafficking, there's labor, there's drug trafficking. I interviewed a guy a few weeks ago. I just released his interview today on YouTube. He was trafficked. He was lured to Mexico from Venezuela. And once he got there with the promise that he would be smuggled into the US, he was put in a house with 100 other traffic victims and the kids were used to move drugs into the US. So they were used as mules. That's another form of trafficking. And then obviously, you know, there's labor, as I mentioned, and organ harvesting, which the film touches on. But then you have other facets like blood trafficking.

There's a story out of Cambodia, an international story that was on the news a few weeks ago, a few months ago, of this businessman from China who traveled to Cambodia, and he was essentially abducted and blood trafficked. This gang kept him strapped up and kept drawing his blood. For what reasons, no one really knows, but he finally escaped. So there's all these different facets. And even there's times where I even hate to use the word human trafficking. It's slavery. It's

slavery. I think human trafficking is the uh it's the pc way of saying slavery because at the end of the day that's what it is yeah it is yeah and and the and i i i don't know why it's not more uh present to mind you know i it's so in the shadows and and yet it's so big and so much and so obvious when you start looking for it. How do they keep it so thoroughly in the shadows? Well, they're intelligent. You know, just like, you know, drugs. And we don't see, well, now, depending on what I was talking to a buddy of mine, a SEAL buddy of mine who was in Canada this past weekend.

And he said that there was a law passed where you could smoke crack out on the street and not essentially get arrested. And so there's crackheads on one corner and drug deal was on the other corner. And so, you know, if we go back to the 80s and the 90s, you know, a lot of that, a lot of the drug dealing was done in the shadows as well as. And you go back even further, we talk about the mafia and other stuff that was done back then. All of that stuff was done in the dark and the shadows. The thing is, and what I tried to really focus on on this film was

how intricate and intelligent these traffickers are. They're not idiots. As a matter of fact, there was a Egypt, Cairo, Egypt is considered the organ harvesting capital of the world. And in 2016, there was a bust of an organ harvesting ring. Of the 45 people who were arrested, the majority of them were doctors and nurses.

And they also confiscated millions of dollars. So you're not dealing with this typical criminal who's not intelligent, who's in the corner, who's dirty, and that's in the corner, who's dirty, and that's just grinding and unmanicured. We're dealing with people who are high level, highly educated, smart, well-connected people. And that's why it's able to work in the shadows because of the fact that these people are not idiots.

As a matter of fact, and this will be a short tangent I'll go on before I give the mic back to you. There's a story out of what we're starting to realize through source reporting that traffickers are starting to realize that it's more lucrative for them to trap traffic organs and is safer than it is for them to traffic people for sex. Because on the black market, a clean heart or lung can go for as much as it starts at $100,000 kidney or liver starts excuse me clean heart lung starts at $130,000 a liberal kidney starts at $100,000 and corneas of the eyes start at $30,000 so if you take a whole person we can conservative conservatively say that that person can go for $500,000 if their organs are sold on the black market.

The average sex trafficking victim, it takes them years to make $250,000 for their trafficker, for their pick, for whatever the term we're going to put on it. So it's more lucrative for them to organ harvest, organ track people, and it's safer because they don't have to worry about their victim catching disease or dealing with an undercover NGO or undercover cops. So again, going back to my main point, these people are intelligent and they've really found different ways to work the dark web. I mean, there was a girl who was tracked from a Dallas Mavericks basketball game this year. It was a national news story. And she was found on the dark web. She went to the Dallas Mavericks playoff game with her father, went to go use the bathroom, never came back.

Father went to go look for her, couldn't find her. Security went to go look for her, couldn't find her. The cops came, couldn't find her. The cops wrote her off as a runaway. The parents, a few weeks later, employed a human trafficking nonprofit to help find their daughter. The human trafficking nonprofit went on the dark web where these people work and move. The dark web is real. It's interesting because you'll meet people who don't even believe the dark web exists. It does exist. And this profile was on the dark

web. Yeah. Her profile was right there on the dark web. She was being sold for sex. So a sting was set up and she was rescued, but she's scarred for the rest of her life, of course. But these people are smart. And some of the traffickers that were at that house when the sting was carried out were at the game that day. So we're not dealing with idiots.

Oh, my God. And it just is so, I mean, you have to think in terms of who or what kind of person can say traffic somebody for sex. It's the kind of person for whom life has no meaning. They could just as easily disassemble somebody and sell their parts. It doesn't matter. In fact, killing them might be a little more humane in terms of what they're capable of doing to other human beings yeesh awful uh all right so so i was gonna say i uh i i did a ride on with a border patrol agent a few years ago as i was getting into the human trafficking side of things and you know he's seen some horrific things and i remember one day we were he showed me pictures uh of uh of two dead babies and the babies their organs were taken out taken out they were cut open oh my god and the babies were stuffed with drugs in order to cross the border and you know oh my god the traffickers were uncovered because the dogs went you know once the dogs came in and was sniffing around, they finally realized that that baby that swaddled in the car seat

is not alive. It's not asleep. That baby's actually dead. And so we don't realize, it's hard for people to realize, especially here in America. See, I've been all around the world. I was born in Nigeria. I've seen evil out there. I've been to war.

I've seen evil. And I think that the everyday average person one of the reasons why people don't believe this stuff exists is because people do not fully understand most people do not fully understand the depth of evil like how evil other people can be at times so hence the title of the film the unexpected wow yeah susan i heard you reacting with the mic off over there she she was affected by your film. Oh, yeah, for sure. Do you want to react?

I was just thinking. Yeah. We were in New York last week, and they were reporting a 20-year-old who had a wellness check, and they went into the apartment and found suitcases full of body parts. So I think it could happen here too. Well, it could happen here. But it could happen here but you said it might have been some word sex thing but i mean but the point is we aren't we we have a hard time

we think we know what these things are but we're not exposed to it we we hide a lot of stuff from ourselves in this country a lot of stuff death and dying is something we hide from ourselves violence you know the reality of what people do to each other. We hide it. Well, we're very fortunate to live in the United States and not have it as bad here, but I'm sure, don't quote me on this. I'd have to do it, have to reread up on this, but the first organ harvesting case was prosecuted in the U.S. I want to say about three or four years ago. So it has happened in the U.S. And we know that Americans who are desperate, this is something that especially as it relates to organ harvesting, most healthy people don't realize. When you are not healthy

and you need an organ to be able to last another year or two years, you're desperate. You'll be willing to do anything. 4,000 Americans die every year because they can't get a kidney in time. I don't understand what it is to be desperate or to really need a kidney in order to survive, or my child need a certain organ in order to survive but you know there are people in the u.s there's a story in this sorry i'll build this contention of a western nation this would be a good example of something because a lot there's a lot of stuff that is open source that's out there but there is some stuff that's not so i want to say it was 2017 maybe it was 2012 so many years in

my head I might be mixing up but anyway if you google Costa Rica Israelis organ harvesting broker and kidneys all tons of articles open source reporting to come up on this but there's a story where there was an Israeli broker in Costa Rica who's broke with brokering kidney deals. So essentially, people in Israel who needed a new kidney, they would fly to Costa Rica. The broker would find a poor person, a poor industrial person in Costa Rica who was willing to sell their kidney. And there was an exchange that was done.

And the kidneys illegally were sold on a black market. So that's an example. You do get Americans who will travel to other countries where the transplant laws are less stringent and or where there is not as much oversight as there is in the United States. So that does happen, 100%. It has happened. Yeah, people, again, i think sometimes when people are desperate for an organ and they're you know once we get to the point where you have organ failure and you

need a transplant you may not have long to live and people when they become desperate literally just go i don't let's just get i don't care where it comes from they don't they didn't want to know unfortunately and yet what they might be contributing is something awful. Caleb, do you want to react to it, too? I know you were moved by the film as well. Watch his film. That's literally what you were just saying, Drew. You've got to go watch.

Everyone has to watch that film tonight. You're right on topic. There's always going to be a whole lot of people who need organs. I'm glad Drew didn't leave an organ in Jordan. Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, from what I remember, I can't go into detail from what I remember, oh, I can't go into detail. We almost did, though. We can't go into detail.

That was the first thing I said, though. That was the first thing I said. I said, I think you could have left a kidney there. More to be revealed. We'll tell the whole story in January when we're promoting your book and talking about what really happened in the desert. Oh, my gosh. When is your book coming out

again? This new book? You know, the publisher, she sent me a time frame, but she didn't send me an exact date yet. So first thing I'm doing after I get out is I'm emailing her so we can mail that on that date. But it's going to be 2023. All right. Excellent. So we'll

come back around and talk about that then. Well, listen listen my friend thank you for all you do thank you for this project thank you for your service thank you for what you did for us out in the desert you want to see if anybody has a question for him on the i don't know we don't they're not screen calls so there's no way to really do that is there unless you want to put if you have a question for remy if you want to put it put it on the couple things we can put it on the restream put you know if you're on the restream. If you're on the restream, put the question up there, and then I'll call you up.

I think they can tweet it, too, or make a message. Okay. I'll look at the tweets also here. I'm looking at that. We might have a couple questions. Casey keeps saying Semper Fortis. Where did you serve when you were in the military? I try to be vague, but all over the Middle East.

I've been to Southeast Asia. He's had to do some stuff. He is married to a primary care practitioner whom I've had the joy to have met. Do you guys have three kids or four? Four. Four kids. Three sons and one daughter. Four kids.

And what are the ages? What are the ages? My oldest is eight. Then my next son is seven. My next son is three. And my daughter is going to be two next week. And his wife does a full-time medical practice, which is, and you're away a lot of the time. So it's insane.

It's so stressful. And I see your kids on instagram they just seem great yeah thank you yeah they're awesome they're awesome i mean they're my motivation and they're one of the reasons why you know i made this film was because you know i want to leave when i leave this earth i want to leave it better than it was when i got here and i know that with all of this stuff going on unless somebody steps up and does something and and brings awareness to this cause, the world is just going to get worse.

And I don't want to leave this world, type of world to my kids. So they're my big motivation, inspiration for why I do it. I hear you. Do you want to tell them about the school? That's great. As we wrap up here? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So my school, I opened up, co-open, co-founded a school in Muskegon, Michigan.

It's a school that caters to inner city kids. It's right on the water, the Great Lakes. It's a maritime themed charter school. So we're open. We got kids in classes right now. And our goal is to raise up the next generation of leaders, take kids who come from an impoverished background and give them the opportunities that I've had. Teach them how to swim at a young age. Give them a great education so that that way they can expose them to other realms. We're going to have doctors come to the school and engineers and lawyers and entertainers

come once a month so that that way we can expose the kids to other avenues so that they see a way out it's great it's great i see a few questions on twitter so during the break if you want to raise your hand and ask a question of remy we'll keep them a little longer and then you can talk about covet after that um i'm i'm still a little confused how we do that there's a little bit i mean we've had a couple questions. Where? On the in the comments. On the comments, on the site. Yeah.

I'll find out who those are. I'll look for them there. Alright, can you hang on, Remy? Can you stay with us? Hey, hey, hey, you guys have my time. Alright, hang on a few minutes. We'll take a little break here and we'll come back with some questions. Be right back. For a long time, I've been talking about the holy grail of skincare genucell and the amazing results

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All right. Let's get Remy in here. Remy Adelik. What was the best thing about being a SEAL? The guys. The guys that I was able to work with. The vetting process to become a SEAL is very stringent, but it's a brotherhood. You know, there's a saying, when you suffer with somebody, you know, it's easy to reign with them because there's that shared suffering, that bond that grew out of suffering. And so that was it.

You know, I was blessed to work with some of the greatest, most intelligent, unique, crazy guys on the face of this planet. So that was it. And then JDS is asking, how can someone help? Are there good NGOs or nonprofits? What do you recommend if somebody wants to make a difference? Fantastic question. And that's why I made the film. For that very question to be answered.

I made the film so that people could watch it and be inspired to do something. I spoke at a conference this weekend and the end of the conference was all about that. How can you help? Well, it's do what you can do with what you have. That's the easiest answer I give everybody. It's as simple as donating to a nonprofit. My suggestion is do your research there are a lot of nonprofits out there that say that they do work in a human trafficking space and they really don't they're just one big marketing machine so do your research to find the right human trafficking nonprofit make sure that they're

actually doing something with the money that they're receiving if you're good at admin or counseling or you're good, you know how to work the cyber web and you're, I mean, I'm saying work the cyber web, which might not be the most grammatically correct term, but if you're good at any of those things, find a nonprofit and say, hey, I'd like to volunteer to go down on a trip and do aftercare for girls or kids that are rescued out of a trafficking situation. If you're good on the web, maybe it's volunteering with a nonprofit to search the dark web and to expose these organ harvesting and human trafficking rings, not just nationally, but internationally. And if you have some type of

tactical skill and you have the right mindset, I always emphasize you have to have the right mindset because when you go into these countries and you see these things, if you don't know how to control your temper and your emotions, you will make a situation worse than it has to be. You got to remember, you're not dealing in your own country. You're dealing in a foreign country. You're partnering with the local police. And so you must be able to stay professional and maintain your bearings regardless of what you see. So you have that ability and find a right ability, then find a nonprofit that will take you in. So those are the four off-the-top things that you could do. Again, my big one is whatever it is that you feel you could do

that can make a difference. For me, it was going overseas and then coming back and saying, you know what, I'm going to make a film. That's where my gift things are. I'm a filmmaker. I know how to tell a story. So let me do it that way and engage in the fight that way. That's what it all boils down to. Find what you can do.

And yeah. And Susan, they're asking on the restream for specific links and stuff. Will you put all the links down on the restream for us? And the name of the film and Remy's website and stuff. Yeah, go to drdrew.com. I just put the link on the restream. I'll put it over in Rumble.

Just go to drdrew.com, click on the link to Remy's show and all the links. Caleb has lined them all up in perfect order there. I was just wondering, Casey's saying a bunch of stuff. Did he raise his hand? Hang on. Before we get over there, let me see if he did. Yes, he's got his hand up. I'll get to him in a second. One more question. I don't know if this is appropriate or even what they're talking about, but I'll just ask it. Why was Operation Talon halted? Do you know what that is or whether that's a question that we can answer? Yeah. T-A-L-O-N. Talon.

No, no. No, not Reddit. If it's an operation, one thing I try to do is I try not to talk about, I've been out of the military since 2016. And, you know, one thing that has always bothered me, even when I was in the SEAL teams, when guys who've been out of the SEAL teams or any special operations unit goes on the news or TV or whatever, and they're talking like they're in today.

You know, a lot of things, tactics, procedures change every year. And so when it comes to operations or why something didn't happen, I have, I'm not ready. My security clearance is expired. So I, so it's all speak on stuff that I'm, that I'm totally disconnected.

That makes sense. Casey, uh, you're up. Hey, shippy, uh, Dr.

Drew, uh, Semper Fortis, gentlemen, Semper Fortis. All right, Remy. Um, here's the thing. Fortis, gentlemen, Semper Fortis. All right, Remy. Here's the thing. I remember Trump wanting to declare the the cartels in Mexico as terrorists. What happened to that? Why aren't we doing that?

I, in all honesty, I don't know. What I can say is that, I've done a lot of interviews lately so I can't remember if I mentioned this earlier today, earlier this interview, but I did interview a guy who was trafficked in Mexico. He was from Venezuela and he was

lured there. Now, as far as whether he doesn't specify whether they were cartel, he does say that they were traffickers. So they could have been cartels. They could have been gangs. They could have been other nefarious figures. And essentially, you know, there were 100 people in that particular place. And one thing I asked him at the end of the interview, I said, what is your message to America?

And his answer was, you know, you need stronger borders. He was just like, you've created, because of the lack of security, there's this environment that's been created on the border where these traffickers are aware and they're able to entrap people. And so his message to everyone was, if you're going to try and get into the US,

one, be safe, be smart about it, realize the risks of trying to cross whatever country you're coming from, New Mexico, into America. And two two you know to the americans we gotta you know you gotta strengthen your borders because the fact that there's a lack of strength on the borders is creating this it's creating this atmosphere it may not be the right word but it's creating this hodgepodge where traffickers are thriving and they're enslaving people. So as far as that, I can't speak on that, but you know, uh, I know some, some, it could turn political for me. It's not about politics at the end of the day for me,

it's all about human beings and, uh, and, and yeah. That's the part that, that I find sort of frustrating with government generally, is there seems to be just sort of a massive denial about human motivation, reality of human behaviors, and the reality of the policies and status of things like the border that profoundly affect people. And they just deny it. They pretend it doesn't happen. And that's very frustrating to know that these things they're doing, i don't care what they do to correct it just but let's just be realistic about it and try to try to make it better whatever that means uh to defend it's not happening just god no it's just it's the same thing i look at our streets here in los angeles

the same idea they're just it's not happening well it is and hundreds of thousands of people are paying the price i didn't vote when people get desperate i couldn't yeah i couldn't understand why after all the work we went through to put up the you know the wall it just came right down the minute we changed into a new that's why government is no but why and now we have all these problems. It actually did make sense. I mean, I hate to admit it, but protecting this country is really a good idea. And these people are just like, they're just out there on the borders.

They're just like cat and mice. They're going to get caught. They're going to be used. They're leaving their babies out there. It's just, it's just, here we just heard they're stuffing their babies with drugs. It's like crazy. Caleb, you had a question. Oh yeah. Yeah. So I, uh, I watched the film. I thought that was, it was just so, I actually finished watching it about five minutes before the show began today. So I'm still just in kind

of almost, it's, it's really intense to see this up close. Yeah. It's very, very like jarring there. And so one of the questions that I had had, so I'm, I'm a, what am I? I'm 34 now. And so the kids in my generation, we were raised with this very strong fear that there were these kidnappers or snatchers that were around every corner that were going to pick you up and traffic you. But then years later, as I've seen, you know, more documentaries and reports about this, it's turned out that that was just kind of like almost like a newer form of satanic panic, where the truth was almost all of these infamous abductions that you hear about were just mentally unwell people that were acting alone, not really an organized group, mainly because abducting an American child

is so risky for trafficking gangs that they would get caught. It'd be in the media. It'd be a huge deal. So I wonder, what are the countries that are out there that are actually driving the highest demand for these black market organs? And how are these sellers finding buyers, especially because a lot of these buyers, if I think about the people who would most likely need organs, you're thinking of old, I'm thinking of like older,

older wealthy people. They don't know how to use the dark web. So how are these sellers finding their buyers? How is this whole, how does it work? Well, a lot of it is, a lot of it, believe it or not, is done on the internet.

In Egypt, as I mentioned earlier, as the organ harvesting capital of the world, I was clicking on something because I wanted to get the exact name right of this trafficker who set up this website in India. But in India, while that's popping up, I could talk about Egypt. But in Egypt, they're using things as simple as apps. They're using chat forms. They're using draft folders of emails where a trafficker will open up an email account and just work within the draft folder of that email. They're using social media. As a matter of fact, during the pandemic, the shutdown, recruitment online increased 22%. I think on, let me pull up the statistic, on

Facebook alone, there was a 25% increase of recruitment and a 95% increase on Instagram during the lockdown. These are proven statistics facts. Okay. So a lot of it is being done on the internet. It's being done in DM, direct messaging on social media. It's done on the internet it's done it's being done in dm uh direct messaging on social media it's done on other apps it's done in chat rooms it's done on emails and and as far as the organ harvesting thing in egypt that's all they use right uh now in india and and that's what a lot of organ harvesting guys do internationally as well in India last year and I'm reading this verbatim because this was something I came across and doing my research reading and preparing for the film but on my last year there was a Nigerian man in India named Gregory your I'm a spell his name

why are and a D H that ran an online kid kidney selling ring for three years before he was caught. He preyed on people in India who were desperate and made a fortune. If anybody wants to look into this, all they got to do is Google Nigerian man, Gregory, Yer, just type in Gregory, Y-E-R, India, kidney selling ring. He created a website. And if my memory serves me right, that website was doubled as like a real estate site. And he was finding desperate people who were willing

to sell their organs. And that's how it was happening. That wasn't on a dark web. And so the dark web is, I would say the dark web is used more in the US, right? More so than in other countries, because in other countries, there's not as much oversight as it relates to social media. And there are these so many fake accounts. I mean, how many times I get fake messages every single day from different things to sign up for. And let's keep in mind that remember back in the day before the Internet, what was used in the U.S.? You go and walk down the street you look at a telephone box or you look at a a light pole and there's like a flyer take a take a number and call modeling agency

currently and if you were looking for a modeling job that was used to a certain extent too for not all not like i want to say like 100 of it like a random number but people did use that in a way to lure girls to certain places for abduction and stuff and things now i'm not saying it's like it was like widespread like a million girls a day that was happening to but there was a fraction where that was happening to social media is so vast right so why the internet in general and these people know how to work this guy who i just mentioned gregory he was a computer science engineer. He knew how to engineer websites and do this kind of stuff.

That's the unfortunate thing, is they know what they're doing. It's the cybersecurity, they know how to hide it. And so it's, are they, are the, typically is it the sellers that are seeking, like they are looking for buyers, or do they already basically have, they have the product, unfortunately, it's

like they have the organs that are ready and they're searching for buyers all the time. Are they like searching through, like getting hospital records of who has money and is looking for this? Or is it the buyers that are searching out the sellers in some way? It's a combination of both. So it's, and it's also like water mouth, right? So if you, if So if, for example, in India, what was happening in this particular organ harvesting ring, when somebody showed up

with money, hey, I got a scar on it. Hey, I got X amount of dollars. And they're in a low-cost system or they're in poverty. What are they going to do? So I just ask, how did you get the dollar? I gave it to this kidney. Okay, how can I put me in connection with this person? Right. So now a database is being collected. On the other end, there's once that website that this guy Gregory set up is up and running, he has a collection point for people to reach out. So people who work in need of kidneys, they had a point of connection. And obviously he was connected to other people in India as well. Again, this was another multi-million dollar organ harvesting thing that was uncovered. And so it's, so there's three, and that's another thing I'd add, there's three facets to the organ harvesting side of things, right? You have the people who are willing and desperate, right? Like I mentioned the story in Costa Rica, I mentioned India, I mentioned Egypt. Africa is a big area for organ harvesting, right? So you have the people who are desperate and willingly selling an organ.

That's one facet. Another facet, you have people who are tricked. There's another story out of India where a woman, and I think I shared this when I was on your podcast, Dr. Drew, there was a woman who was in a low-caste system and and she received the message there's a job for you I'm kind of condensing the story for the sake of time there's a job opportunity for you in New Delhi uh just come here we'll put you in an apartment she went to New Delhi this is all open source this story was international news she goes to New Delhi to this apartment her her uh employer i said that in air quotes told her in order for you to start work but she gotta remember just the ideas like

somebody's saying hey you hit the lottery right like this is the mindset of some of these people because they're so poor in order for you to start work you need to go get a medical checkup tomorrow she goes to get a medical checkup right she gets und. She overhears the nurse tell the doctor in the other room, this girl is giving up these particular organs. Because human trafficking is a big thing in India in and of itself, as well as China, as well as Africa, so many places. Because she was aware of the organ harvesting and human trafficking issues in India, she knew what that was about, got dressed, boogied out, reported the clinic and implored to the police. The police raided the clinic and uncovered a multimillion-dollar organ harvesting ring that had been going on for years.

Okay? Wow. The other facet that I touch on, that the film touches on, are the force. People who are abducted and forced. And as I said, I don't want to give away too much. What I'm going to do when I post the film tonight I'm gonna put I'm gonna put something I already wrote it up it's called true backstory where I break down the backstory of where these these victims have came from in this in the film's particular story

and I put a link to actually an actual article that breaks it all down and UN's involvement in Congress so people can see that this stuff is real. This is not fake. But my focus is on people who are abducted and taken from the force. So this stuff does happen. Sorry for cutting you off. No, no, no. It's so wild. And I think that part of it is because it's so shocking that it's a multi-billion dollar industry. And I realize that it's so shocking because everyone on the screen here and everybody that's listening, we don't associate with the types of people that can do this. These aren't our friends. These aren't our family. We don't know them. And so we can't even imagine just the depravity and evil here, especially Drew, who's like a doctor, imagining how many

medical doctors have to be involved in this whole thing to do the surgeries, to do the transplants. There are actual medical doctors with degrees that are a part of it. And I think also that everybody is against human trafficking, but I don't think that they realize that a part of fighting human trafficking is fighting against poverty because people who are in poverty get desperate. And then that's what creates this. Like there's always another thing. Sorry, you brought up a great point that I brought up. Sorry for cutting you guys off in my talk this weekend.

Traffickers prey on the vulnerable. The people who are the most at risk to become traffic victims are people who are vulnerable people who live in poverty people who don't have parents those are the those are the people who are most likely to become victims of all and so if you brought up a great point one of the ways to deal with this is to in some way deal with poverty you know and not and not, and not just here, but like worldwide, which I don't know the solution to that, but that's one way to combat human trafficking. I hate to use human trafficking because that's the PC word slavery. Right. I thank you for what you're doing. This is, I'm, I'm just, I'm shocked. And it's, I, I just, I remembered, I remember the shock that I

felt after I, I watched, I forget which it that I felt after I watched, I forget which, it was an overseas documentary. It was in a different language with subtitles that I had to watch that really opened my eyes to, I don't have to be so fearful of being kidnapped over here because everyone lives in such fear overseas because it happens so much. They prey on people who don't have voices. They prey on people who aren't on social media and who are living in poverty right so it's i thank you for

everything that you're doing this is an amazing film yeah and uh two things i i i guarantee you caleb will be on the link this evening reading the article that talks about the the truth of the story number one you can find him there tonight at nine o'clock pacific i also think that americans and i'm going to bring it back to america again because i don't think that we're immune to this situation we're not we just heard about a maverick right i think the more desperate we become when the stock market falls when people are you know losing money and people are just trying to survive after covid and stuff and the nefarious stuff that can start building up from the bottom and i it just i'm it's sort of a warning signal you know that we have to you know be very careful very careful yeah i look at there's a lot of kids

left having gone back to school yep i agree with you 100 two things on that note one is a story that came out national news about two weeks ago this woman she was in walmart and uh she was in the aisle looking looking at shoes with her i think a 12 year old daughter and and she had went online prior to that and studied the signs and symptoms somebody who seems to be a trafficker and she looked up from the shoes and there was a guy who was and then ended up out like behind another like table of shoes and he had his camera up in a very conspicuous way and he had been recording her so she pulled out her phone and started recording him and uh he ran off, she recorded him for a period of time because he kept recording her and her daughter. He was actually recording her daughter.

And she reported it to the manager of the Walmart. The police came. She sent them the police video. Police walked, they were able to identify the guy had just been released from prison. Class one sex offender. He had raped and molested an underage girl. Right? So this does happen

in America. That's the first thing I want to say. The second thing I want to say is the biggest consumer of child pornography in the world, which is pornography that is developed, produced, and created with trafficked victims

are Americans we drive the demand I say we only meet we drive the demand for content that's created with sex traffic victims whether that's child content even pornographic content for a porn hub is known for having potentially traffic victims on their site same thing a lot of people think that they're watching only fans and certain people and they think it's innocent or watching certain porn and they have these porn addictions and they think oh i'm not hurting anybody i'm not doing anything but do you know that the person on the other end of the screen may be a traffic victim

and you're funding this activity so you know america drives the demand. And I can't really speak on the numbers as it relates to organ harvesting, how much we drive the demand. But we know from a statistical standpoint that we drive the demand through content that's developed and created with sex trafficking victims, specifically children as well. We're the biggest consumer of it, Americans. So this problem is here. We are contributing to it well i can't thank you enough for the project let's get all the stuff out there again i love your passion yeah the uh go to where should we go to see the film tonight give me again the specifics youtube um yeah you can go to youtube remy adeleke is my youtube channel uh if you have a

hard time finding that you can just go to my instagram and on my instagram it's the link in the bios to my youtube channel page or if you you know if you're hard for you to spell my name when you had a lake and just go to youtube and search the unexpected film by just put the unexpected film and it'll pop up there might be some other stuff that pops up on the unexpected but you'll eventually get to it when you'll see that poster that's been up here in the spring and if you're just listening it's r-e-m-i-a-d-e-l-e-k-e-a-d-e-l-e-k-e ramey again i can't thank you enough uh it'll be fun to go out and uh see how the world receives us in january uh and there's the unexpected check it in January. There's The Unexpected. Check it out. Be sure to check out

the article. After you've watched the film, you're going to be compelled to go deeper into the real story and what you can do. Thank you for spending time with us, my friend, and hope to see you very soon. Hey, thank you, Dr. Drew. Thank you, Mrs. I'm always pronouncing your last name wrong. Pinsky?

Pinsky. I know. pronouncing your last name wrong. Pinsky? Pinsky. I know. I screw your last name up too, so it's all good. That's all good. This is Pinsky. I agree. I'm sorry. This is a military thing.

I'm sorry, Susan. I just missed it. I know. I know. It's okay. But thank you for having me on. Kayla, thank you for having me on. God bless you all. Much love. Thank you for helping me get the word, thank you for having me on. God bless you all.

Much love. Thank you for helping me get the word out about this film and about this important topic. There you go. Time to pay the man. Whoever doesn't watch the film, I'm going to make sure they pay the man. That's right.

That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. All right, sir. Thank you so much. We will all follow you and stay in touch. Yes, for sure. Casey, I know you're putting all the credits up, but I wanted to spend a few minutes, if you don't mind, because I always like to kind of recap what we've been doing here with all the different interviews we've had this week and last week. Do I have a few minutes to do that?

Do you mind? Oh, yes. Oh, no. You said Casey, so I didn't know you were talking to me. I'm sorry. Did I say Casey? Caleb, I beg your pardon. I also was thinking Casey. The reason Casey was in my mind is I want to get to the calls and take a couple of calls also. Because I'm assuming there are going to be calls in the sort of COVID area.

Or hopefully about this or not. Yeah. I mean, I think we did a thorough job on this one. Good guy. How could you stop? I couldn't stop a thorough job on this one. Good guy. How could you stop? I couldn't stop. Talking to him? Yeah.

Yeah. Well, listen. I wanted more. I know. Forget about that. Then, Susan, go to my website. Go to the Dr. Drew podcast, and you can have an hour and a half with him and I. He's not as cute in a podcast.

He's fun to watch, and he's's so smart and i appreciated you having him on okay thanks for letting us have him as a guest of course of course oh no i'll do anything for the guy because he needs to come back once the the show airs too for sure we're gonna bring everybody back through here once that show goes on the air and let everyone talk about their experiences and stuff to the extent we may have to wait till the i don't know how many episodes going to be but it probably the middle of march before it all airs we might have to wait all the way till then to get everybody in here i know i know it'll be okay we'll figure it out uh in any event so dr batacharya yesterday and uh we had ed dowd i believe last week let me double check that isn't

that who we talked to last week um oh no we were out of town last week was the issue. It was Ed Dowd the week before. Was it last week? Yeah, it was from New York. That's right. That's right. And so I just want to talk a little bit about, you know, sort of way I'm thinking about things and what I think we've learned. And I'll take a couple of calls also, which is that it's just increasingly clear.

I don't know if you noticed when I was talking to Dr. Bhattacharya, we had what I'm convinced was a Chinese operative on our Rumble rant. I mean, there's just no doubt in my mind that's what that was. What he was championing, what he was saying repeatedly on the stream here, if you guys that were on the Rumble rant yesterday noticed him, was he was espousing these over-the-top declaratives of the virtues of lockdowns. And they were so crazy and over-the-top declaratives of the virtues of lockdowns. And they were so crazy and over-the-top, it was clear to me that it was not somebody that is from here or who's been thinking about this. It was just some sort of a bot who was just repeating.

Shouting in caps. Well, not all in caps. And the point being is when I called it out as a Chinese operative, it just stopped, which I think was fascinating. Secondly, it was not someone who was watching the show because we were talking about how the fact that the World Health Organization and panic and the uncertainty that they heard people talking like that of the over-the-top virtues of locking down a society. I don't know if that was done intentionally to really this situation, and that there was more to be done. sorts of containment, which is what we had always done and what we will always do, I trust, but will not if we don't look back on this and are very critical of the mistakes we've made. But there's ways to sort of protect vulnerable populations.

There's ways to get the vaccine out to the vulnerables. We should have done exactly that with monkeypox because we are so inebriated with the notion of equity. We literally don't, we're not able to call out the risk groups so we can protect them. We must let that go. I will just point out again that if you have three cases with COVID, you have a 20-year-old male, you have a 45-year-old obese diabetic, and you have an 85-year-old female, there's no way you're going to get the same outcome on all three cases.

That's not the way medicine works. There's going to be three different outcomes, three different biologies, three different natural histories, just how it works. So to be obsessed with equity in a setting where there is diversity of biology and an infinitely complex circumstance, you can't have that as the sole prism through which you see things. You can have a goal of equity of distribution of resources for sure. We should always have that. But to have equity of outcome as some sort of blinded priority, so many people are going to get hurt. And we effectively did that. The data is just still rolling in on how much harm we did. Let me bring a joke.

It's a communist plot, dear. I don't know what it was, but it hurt people immensely, immensely. What's up? Drew, would you call that equity uber alice? Equity uber alice. So it was safety uber alice, equitybralis, vaccine ubralis. But the reason I am so vocal about the prism through which they see unidimensional approach, that's never okay in medicine. Never, ever, ever. It's how you hurt people without taking in the totality of the

context and the risk reward of anything you do. When I was teaching medicine, that was the thing I pounded into the residents all the time. Defend your decision. Tell me why you made it. Have a backup plan. And you better be able to have both and be very clear about them. If you just did it because you were focused on treating a spirochete and that's all you concerned yourself with and not the totality of the patient circumstance, I had no patience with that. Jody, what's, and that's all you concerned yourself with and not the totality

of the patient circumstance. I had no patience with that. Jodi, what's going on? You have to unmute yourself. I see you. Hi, Dr. Drew. Thank you so much for having me up. Caleb, thank you as well.

I just sent you a bunch of DMs. So I really appreciate the topic, Dr. Drew. We're a little engine that could non-, non-for-profit apes for change. And, um, one, our next project actually is on human trafficking. So I was very, very excited to, um, get the opportunity to see you. I follow you and follow all your spaces. So I'm usually in here, but this one was especially, you know, to the heart for us because it's such a huge problem. And some, the president and vice president of our non-for-profit, we're able to speak with someone from underground operation,

underground railroad. So, so tell, tell us where people can go. Tell us more about your project, where they can go to learn more. So if anybody wants to follow it's apes for change, I don't know how to post in the nest. I'm sorry. I'm a little illiterate when it comes to that, but I sent everything to Caleb actually, a ton of information. So if you guys could get that out as well, we're really making good strides. We have a whole community of activists, retail investors. Is it the number four or is it F-O-R? It's Apes for Change. A-P-E-S, the number four. Number four. Okay. Got it. Apes for Change. Got it. And we've done a bunch of really,

really, really cool projects and we're going to change the world. Dr. Drew, one project at a time. But I, you know, I just, I, when I saw the human trafficking, that's our next project that we're into right now. And, uh, hopefully we can bring more awareness to this. So thank you so much. I'm going to, I'm going to not take up all your time, but thank you for that. And Dr. Drew, I love you. Thanks, Jodi. Appreciate your work. Keep doing it, my dear. This is Aaron. Let's get Aaron up here and see what Aaron has to say to us.

We'll try to get some calls in. Aaron, what's up? Aaron? Hello. Hey, there. Hey, we do. Hey. Oh, I called you a while back about my wife and her oxygen training and stuff, but I had

a second question I didn't get to ask you last time. Okay. And I was wanting to ask what you think about Adam's theory about being around dirt and whatnot. We live on a farm, and me and my kids are always messing with the animals, and then I work construction also yeah and like we all live in a small kind of house so when we get sick we all get sick of course but my wife always gets the worst of it and me and the kids don't really get that sick and i was

wondering what you think about like being around we have hogs and cows and dogs and cats and the whole thing. So here's really, it's a little bit more nuanced than Adam presents it. Adam has this sewer rat philosophy about strengthening our immune system and our overall constitutional system. And Caleb is laughing. To some extent, that's right. We need to be exposed to a certain amount of pathogens. We need to gain immunity. We need to see viruses. We need to be exposed to a certain amount of pathogens. We need to gain immunity.

We need to see viruses. We need to see allergens. Our immune system needs to be sort of conditioned to all that. Now, we don't need to see anthrax and Brucella and really serious illnesses and trichuria trichurus and things that farm animals get. No, you don't need that because that will make you really, really sick. And your wife, if I remember, has some chronic underlying conditions, so exposing her to anything that can decompensate that is sort of a different story

than just saying, hey, we want to expose young and developing systems to allergens and pathogens. But that doesn't mean we want them to get septic scarlet fever. That doesn't mean we want them to get septic scarlet fever. That doesn't mean we want them to get tuberculosis, right? There's a happy medium here. I think really what he's advocating against is protecting people completely from everything. Being raised in a bubble is not a so-called healthy way to be.

He doesn't use soap. If you live on a farm, you have to use soap. Yes, you do. But he doesn't live on a farm either. Right, exactly. And so there's a lot of stuff that you, you know, it's kind of healthy to get exposed to, but it's not. Right, kids need to get sick. But there's an upper limit to that.

You don't want to go too crazy with that. No, true, and it depends on the person too. So you don't want to be eating, you know. I think he's probably having a fight with his wife over who's who's not being clean enough okay tell you what's going on hey i see you there you're unmuted but we don't we can't hear your voice yet. Hey. Ah, shoot. Ote. Ote.

I don't see them as a speaker. Okay. I'm going to try solution here. Ta-ta, Tay-Tay. Uh-huh. Solution, what's up? You see that one, Caleb? Oh, there we are.

Solution. Hello. Hey there. Yes. Hey, Dr. Drew. Man, there we are. Solution. Hello. Hey there. Yes. Hey, Hey Dr. Drew. And I loved your show back in the day. Love line was one of my favorite shows to watch. Um, thank you. I had a question though. I feel like, you know, there's a whole lot of stuff going on in the world. And, and I know that this child trafficking is probably the biggest thing in my mind that I see wrong with this world. And the whole Epstein thing and all the people that's connected to him, is there anything that we could do as a group to try to get this information into the right hands? This being what we were just talking about today?

Tell you what i would do tell you what i would i i i am not sure i fully grasp where this lives and you know what to do about it yet and i i and what's the black web well that's the caleb house explain that's the onion router you don't you don't you don't want to know uh right am I right about that Caleb the tor the onion router exactly wow Drew I'm actually impressed wow yeah Susan you there's there's nothing good can come of it unless you're like you're like a large oppressive government that you need to escape right there's a huge part of the web bigger than the part we actually, that is available to sort of governments and intelligence agencies. And then people find their way onto it and traffic drugs and people and all kinds of horrible stuff, guns. And it's just a horrible place. And Mike Hathaway, you spent a little time on there.

That's how I found out about it. He would. Yeah, of course. So I would tell you to follow Eliza Blue. Does Eliza have her Twitter handle? Susan, do you know what it is offhand? It's just Eliza. Eliza knows maybe.

I don't know. She's very involved in all this. I tried to get her to come on Twitter spaces. She is a great source of guidance and inflammation and really sort of makes it her business to help connect people that want to do something. So I would go over to Eliza's. I am no expert in this. And so I would send you to people I know that are really doing a lot of work with this.

So I would say that. Okay. So, guys, I will wrap this up here. Let's talk about what's coming up next week. I know we have uh let's see here i have to travel next week monday what are we doing monday is somebody coming in here guys didn't i see mckayla peterson coming no she can't come back till november oh my oh no that makes me so mad i know that makes me very very very angry i know uh all right because she

yeah i know it wasn't her fault though it was a scheduling mix-up she was ready no it was not her fault yeah that that's my point we had her booked and now we lost her for months eliza blue b-l-e-u b-l-e-u is it yeah yeah i put it on screen the blue okay she's oh you did i'm so slow caleb okay yeah so i don't know it's i maybe she's leaving the country or something who knows but she has her own stuff she's doing of course yeah and are we having the schedule for wednesday with kelly yeah wednesday we have a show we had tuesday of a show tuesday we're gonna do hit callers. And we can take calls on Monday too if Caleb's up for it.

I'm up for that. But I'm wondering, have we got any potential guests coming in on Wednesday we can talk about? I don't know yet. Yeah, I don't have that. We don't have that booked yet. We're working on getting a fertility, or actually a women's biology expert in here

who has some increasing, some interesting data on the vaccine. Now, this was a whole thing about the breast milk, the mRNA in the breast milk. I don't know what to make of all that yet. I need to talk to somebody who really has some updated data on what's going on here and what do we need to be worried about, what do we not be worried about?

And so still, I think I'm gonna try to zero in a little more on vaccine therapies uh as i said i'm still vaccinating the over 65 and certainly the over 75 year olds most of my patients have been waiting on omicron interestingly most of them either had omicron or want to see what the experience is in humans which thus far seems okay i'm convinced that them having had Omicron gives them better immunity than the vaccine itself. And that was something I kind of, maybe we should get Monica Gandhi back in here too. Yeah, for sure.

Yeah, I think it's true. So Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, okay, Caleb, can you do that? I'll look at my calendar off the air. I'll check on it, but I'm pretty sure, I know at least Tuesday, Wednesday for sure. And we are also out on Getter, G-E-T-T-R.com. Yeah, we had a few people over there.

It's your new profile. Let me look at the restream, see if you have any. Getter.com slash user slash Dr. Drew. It's G-E-T-T-R.com slash U-S-E-R slash D-R-D-R-E-W. Interesting. Why have influenza B cases plummeted? They think it's because of the behavioral changes associated with COVID.

That's what we think. All the influenza drop-off has been thought to be due to that. But the question, I believe, and I don't have any evidence for this, but I just think it just makes sense to me. I talked about this early in the pandemic. There's sort of an ecology around viruses. In other words, much like on a savanna, you'd have certain predators push out other predators. I think viruses compete in some way, and they can out-compete each other. And when they do,

other viruses drop down. That tends to happen during a pandemic. So I feel like there's some ecology there. It might just all be our behavior, but why would it be so far down and we were unable to control COVID really at all, and yet we drop influenza? That doesn't make sense to me fully. So I want to see some data on that. We are concerned that there could be a very serious influenza outbreak this year, so make sure to get your flu vaccines. If you're 65 and above, get the full strength stuff. I haven't gotten one yet. I know I haven't either, I'll bring them home. I gotta remember to bring them.

We still get the lower dose one. Not quite at the big daddy doses yet. We'll be there soon. What? Somebody wants me to- I've had one every year, and I don't ever get the flu. Talk about Scott Adams and fentanyl.

What would you like me to talk about fentanyl? It's in everything. It's a catastrophe. Oh yeah, the nerds. They found them in kids' candy. It's everywhere. Nerds. They found it in... Which is ridiculous. They did.

Oh yeah, I hear about that every year that was a bogus well it was a bogus story nobody's going to be putting their expensive drugs into your kids candy so it that's like a very very very very small worry i would another thing that they made me afraid of as a child was that everyone was putting drugs and razor blades and all of our candy razor blades razor blades and you're yeah it never happenedor blades. And snatchers. Razor blades. Yeah, it never happened. Yeah, it's funny. When my kids were little and we lived like in a cul-de-sac and, you know, in a little housing area, you know,

kind of up here in the hills of Glendale. And I used to remember like never seeing any kids outside, you know, like riding their bikes or playing or doing anything like a bunch of kids living there, but nobody would let their kids go outside. I always found that to be very strange because I grew up in a time when you would just go outside all day and then come home. And, um, so I get it. I mean, people were seriously afraid. And I mean, you have to be, I guess. Your mother was super paranoid about you.

Super paranoid. He wasn't allowed to go outside. No, I did anyway. I just did. Get on my bike and go. But I mean, I guess now your kids will be kidnapped more often, so it's probably smart. I don't know.

I hate to see that. Kids need to have fun. All right, let me look at the Rumble Rant. Your questions are, got the flu shot, didn't get the flu, did get the flu. Yeah, it's not 100% effective. And you can't get the flu from the vaccine because there's no virus in it. There's no real virus. I think also now, since we've all worn masks for so long, our immune systems are weaker, so it's probably better to get the flu shot well that's what they're saying because once it goes out it's right that's the concern is that uh it's going to be like on airplanes we'll see uh and over at berkeley the university of california berkeley if you didn't get your flu shot you have to wear a mask but don't worry about wearing a helmet when you're riding a bike yeah don't worry

about a helmet when you're riding a bike though because that's that's that would be foolish yeah so the the again the inability to contextualize risk and relative to other serious risks this is just wow uh maybe i don't know all right so anyway anyway we'll be back in here on Monday this is Thursday we're going to check Caleb's calendar hopefully Monday Tuesday Wednesday and maybe a little bit late on Monday

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