Ask Dr. Drew - New Trump EO Designates Antifa As A “Domestic Terror Group” Using Pattern of “Political Violence” w/ Tyler Fischer, Brad Thayer, Mark Mitchell – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 535

Episode Date: September 26, 2025

“Antifa is a militarist, anarchist enterprise that explicitly calls for the overthrow of the United States Government, law enforcement authorities, and our system of law,” says a new executive order from President Trump. “Because of the aforementioned pattern of political violence designed to suppress lawful political activity and obstruct the rule of law, I hereby designate Antifa as a “domestic terrorist organization.” Tyler Fischer is a comedian, actor, and viral content creator with over 200 million views. He has appeared on America’s Got Talent, The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, NBC’s Chicago Med, and co-starred in Terror on the Prairie with Gina Carano. He is a regular at the Comedy Cellar and tours nationally. Learn more at https://www.tylerfischer.com and follow him at https://x.com/TyTheFisch Brad Thayer is a founding member of the Committee on the Present Danger China and coauthor of multiple books on China’s threat to the U.S. He has served in the Department of Homeland Security and held academic fellowships at Oxford and Harvard. Follow at https://x.com/bradthayer Mark Mitchell is the Head Pollster at Rasmussen Reports, known for leading polling on political and cultural issues. He has directed national surveys on voter sentiment including COVID-19, elections, and public trust in institutions. Follow at https://x.com/honestpollster 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 Find out more about the brands that make this show possible and get special discounts on Dr. Drew's favorite products at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/sponsors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/fatty15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/paleovalley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • VSHREDMD – Formulated by Dr. Drew: The Science of Cellular Health + World-Class Training Programs, Premium Content, and 1-1 Training with Certified V Shred Coaches! More at https://drdrew.com/vshredmd • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twc.health/drew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠) and Susan Pinsky (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/firstladyoflov⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠e⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And the influence upon Antifa and all these other groups that are having their way with us for the last, God knows how many years. And then finally, Mark Mitchell, the radicalization of Reddit, radicalizing users and what we need to do about that. And more coming up right after this. our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre the psychopaths start this he was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography PTSD love addiction fentanyl and heroin ridiculous I'm a doctor for I say where the hell you think I learned that I'm just saying

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And X is T-Y-The-F-E-F-H-H-T-H. Tyler, welcome back. I'm sorry, doctor. I'm just self-administering my daily booster shot. I'm not taking fatty. Is that really the name of that? That's incredible.

Yeah, it's good. It's a pencenoic acid, fatty acid. It's really good. There are a few longevity products that I get behind. That is one of them. We should be taking that. So there you go. Tough conversation with your doctor.

Look, you're not doing great. We're going to put you on fatty. Right? the fat shot you know the fat shot are you on the fat shot you look a little thin through in the neck you're like you got that I know the fat shot yeah I know the fat shot

oh am I on the fat shot no no no I'm not a fat shot I'm just getting old I'm just getting old so good to see you man you look fantastic so good to see you too so our home is what's behind you there look at that there's your name in lights or something in Texas it says Austin

I'm in Austin, Texas. Oh, fantastic. Oh, gotcha. I was worried when your stream froze for a second there, and I thought, oh, damn. He has been Silas. You're somebody that has been attacked in many different ways. Now, what's going on in your X platform? You're suddenly sensitive content there, I heard?

Yes, I did an NBA AI spoof. You know, they were throwing those sex toys on the court. So I made an AI version. of that and now everything I post is deemed sensitive. So I guess Elon, you know, it went a little too far.

You know, we like Mars, but we don't like sex toys. So there'll be no sex toys on Mars. It is, oh, there's your upcoming tours coming up. So Tyler does the best Trump ever.

And so I'm sure you saw the Tylenol press conference yesterday and you explain this to me. One of the things that caught my attention was when Trump gets up and goes, look, the scientists are being careful. They can't say this, but I can say it.

I can say it. I can say, don't take Tylenol, don't do it. And I thought, oh, my God, that cracks me up so much. And then I thought, oh, that's the stuff that drives some people insane. They think he's like a maniac at the wheel. I would love to hear your version of Trump and then Trump explaining why some people react to him. that way well frankly we call these people we call them really they're woke and they're sad and

they they can't take information but we have you know there's more information that rfk think of it and rfk is afraid to say it drew but but but and i'm a big fan of rfk we the real cause of autism dr drew is having a baby with a liberal and we know that and that's the science is clear and so there's some there's some breaking news for you have we looked into that but and and speaking of being liberal uh you you were very were you all the way woke at one time to i want to i've never heard that full story like how you transitioned as it were that's what i say i'm i'm trans i'm transitioning into a logical person and nobody respects that They just called me a far right racist.

Yeah, I was, I wouldn't say I was liberal. It's just how you're raised. If you're raised in a very Catholic household, that's who you are. I was raised watching CNN. And, you know, my father came out of the closet when I was seven. So I grew up with, you know, a mom with mental illness and a gay dad. And, you know, I was like as tolerant as it comes in more. of the logical way. But, you know, I posted a tweet about the shooter of Charlie Kirk, and I'm sure

there's much more information to come out. So who even knows at this point? But what I was trying to point out is like, I understand how young men have nothing to live for because that happened to me. I went down the far left rhetoric. You're toxic, you're oppressive. Any success I got was punished. You know, I'm out with women going, I'm gender fluid. I'm like, are you wet? What are you talking about? Like, now I'm playing Russian roulette with genitals on a first date, and I am getting lectured. And so, you know, it just drove me into a dead end and not getting the COVID show. I want to slow down because I'm fascinated by this because I think, I think if we're going to get out of this, it's going to be young males that lead us out, as it typically is.

but I think young men has been so almost heartbroken by how poorly we have served young males telling them they're toxic, they're worthless, they're marginal, that we have no use for you. But tell me about, you said you were being lectured. You mean you're on a date and somebody would lecture you? Well, I was in New York City for 15 years. I mean, so what I don't think we'll understand

is women drive the sexual marketplace. Well, it's like, well, now I'm turning to Jordan Peterson. It's like you drive the market, you know? it's like we do what women want and they do so men started adapting to this far left radical feminism and well i actually saw that tyler i saw that in real time i just kept saying it about 12 years ago i said i know what this is maybe 15 years ago this is this is young men want to have sex with these girls and realize they better tow that line if that's what they want to do and it ended up backfiring on them they ended up doing the exact opposite but keep going so you you were toe on the line because you

It makes you unnaturally open to ideas that may not be rational. Yeah, exactly. And I was in Hollywood. So, you know, I was doing well in Hollywood. And as you know, I literally got fired for being white from an agent. And then the next manager who scouted me, that's where they come and watch you and they bring you in a meeting, go, you're going to be a star. They said our company policy is to not hire white men. The company is called AGI Entertainment.

I'm in a four-year lawsuit. Okay, so now I'm suing somebody standing up for myself for actual racism, and those same far-left people turned that on me and called me racist. So it's just the insanity compounding, and you can see why men are shutting down, not approaching women. I'm not going to get too deep into this, but I used to be on the Gutfeld show. I asked a woman out at Fox News,

some woke manager or, you know, higher up called that harassment, and I got canceled from the show. Now, I love Greg. I love Fox. I gave up friends and family to go on that network, and I lost half of my tour money from that. And now I have to pursue a defamation lawsuit. So it's like, if they could do that to me, and Trump says that a lot, right? If they do it to me, they'll do it to you. I'm starting to understand. Like, they make examples of people and they sacrifice you for the cause of

woke insanity. My heart does... The good news about you... The good news about you is you're so... Talent has a way of rising, and so I have no doubt you'll have success in your tour because you're so damn funny.

But I... You know, I have no doubt about that. But this idea that men... I've had other friends in New York City that literally bought someone a drink and was kicked out of the bar for daring to do that. Just being friendly gets you kicked out of an environment. Asking somebody for coffee. Coffee, Drew.

We had coffee at that hotel in California. You could have had me fired for saying, hey, you want to have a cup of coffee? Damn, I missed that opportunity. So close, too. Really bad. And, and you had a, now listen, you always have to look at yourself when these things happen. And I don't, I'm not accusing you of anything, but you had some problems with Delta Airlines, too. So I hope you're just examining.

So you don't make any more mistakes. At least, at least that mistakes. And so you don't step any more landmines. Don't step on more landmines. It's also important to note. I've been in therapy seven years. I'm in 12-step programs. I don't do anything without running it by literally an army of people.

So, you know, the accountability is there. It's like, you know, once I lost my Hollywood career, they gave me a lot of free time to reflect. You know, they actually gave me the time to sue them, which is so funny. I was, that's ironic that they opened up four years of time to sue. You know, it's interesting two things. One is you actually had a recording. You actually recorded them telling you, I saw you with Dr. Phil going over that recording. It was absolutely mind-boggling.

number one. And number two, one of the things I know about recovery, one of the things I worry about what people are suing is that they're suing out of resentment. So one of the things I know about recovery is you can't be in recovery and have resentments. So I know you're not doing out of being resentful. No, no, it's, it's, again, forget me. You know, I lucked out, I was just in my hometown. I saw a monument of a guy who died in war. And I thought, this 18-year-old went and took a bullet to the head. Charlie Kirk just took a bullet. And so this is a war. Like getting called a creep harasser for asking someone for coffee at Fox, that's character assassination. You know, I just had a first date. Look me up and Google me. See that article and start screaming at me. It's like I could

only handle so much. You know, I know I'll be fine, but I'm doing it for the young boys who didn't have you know, the 90s where you had to develop a character and go up to a girl and I'm five foot three. Do you know the overcompensation I've had to do date? You know? Yeah, yeah. What about the kids that never experienced that? So at this point, forget me. I don't care. I don't need money. I don't need fame. I'm fighting for the freedom to be masculine, just like we're fighting for women to have their power and strength as females. It's insane what's happened. So take me more, if you can, through the transition again.

Because I'm fascinated by that because I feel like a lot of men need to make that transition. And so I kind of want to know more about it. I don't want to see your genitalia. Which I want to see what kind of, what is that process? What is the, did somebody persuade you? Did you just suddenly start thinking in the shower one morning? What am I doing? How does that work?

I'm not going to, I'm not going to mince words. It was brutal. I almost didn't survive it. Like, to, you know, even going on Fox News, I had comedians going, you're a racist piece of shit. I had to hide in a van outside a comedy club to go and do spots on Fox. like I was, you know, some kind of secret club. The vaccine stuff, you know, being at your parents' house not allowed inside while your family's on the other side of the porch with a mask like you're a disease. It was brutal, but I just kept saying this isn't normal.

This is against God's will, our natural instinct, and I kept reflecting on that. And I saw Jordan Peterson say, you know, you should not accuse someone of white privilege that sparked, you know, fighting the discrimination stuff. But this has been a six-year mental battle. And thank God I have this little outlet of comedy to keep me just above the surface. Most people don't have that. Most people have to go into an office and, you know, stuff it down. So it's, yeah, it's not resentment. duty at this point, you know, and trying to have a little fun along the way. It's not what I expected when I used to be on TV and, you know, considered for big Hollywood roles, but it is what it is. Yeah, not what I expected is the thing I keep saying about some of the stuff I've done,

like, you know, when we were doing Lovelin back in the 80s, this was not, we were not expecting, we did not intend with some of the shit that's going down now. We did not intend that people would end up here. This is not at all we were intending. It is a really odd time. And it is time for a compensation of some type, like a comeback. You know, you mentioned Charlie Kirk a couple of times. Did that affect you?

Oh, I cried. I'm still crying. You know, I've never met Charlie. But I kept seeing these clips pop up that reaffirmed all of the things that I'm doing. you know, stop talking about race and gender as your primary identity force, which Jordan talks about, you know. It just was like these little things going off. And he had a quote. He said, let's disagree agreeably. And I thought, man, how many friends and family would I still have if they could come to the table and say that? Because I never pushed anybody out. I never did. I'm really

proud of that. I still, the woman I asked out at Fox News was not a conservative. She said she didn't like working at Fox and didn't agree with them. But we had a little magical spot. And so, you know, she was also robbed of a potential relationship from wokeism. So, yeah, Charlie, you know, look at his wife. Look how strong she is. It's like, you can't deny it. The guy was, he had a magic to him. and you know i saw this is a different topic i saw you in a comedy club where you were sort of shitting on jordan peterson and doing a little bit of a jordan peterson imitation and he walked up on the stage what was he doing there when did that happen did you have a relationship with him i can't i can't i still can't comprehend that because during covid during covid i'm on the couch you know really

just going, am I going to survive life, losing my comedy career to the vaccine stuff, and then my Hollywood stuff for the discrimination. And I would sit on the couch and watch Jordan Peterson for 10 hours straight. And then he's calling me, asking me to come on his podcast. And it's like, I don't know how I even sat through that interview. And then we sat and had dinner for three hours. He's like, would you like, you know, come have a stake with me? And I was like, unreal. And we continued to talk. And I got more support from Jordan Peterson on a screen as a stranger than anybody in my life. You know, if that doesn't clue you into young men not having any support. And then he said, I want to come on stage with you. So I wrote jokes and I insulted the

shit out of him and he insulted the shit and and uh that was probably one of the highlights of my career yeah what what club was that it almost looked like the seller where was that that was in um uh uh a phoenix arizona uh that's where his daughter lives so funny and he's not doing well right now so say a prayer for jordan his health is i know i've heard yeah i know i've heard uh and macaela too I think was having something going on too so I worry about them both. Yeah, he's an extraordinary guy and his main I mean, that's always been his

sort of primary, I mean, he didn't start there. I found him back years ago. I feel like I'm an early adopter when he was doing the first somebody was interviewing him to go over his Maps of Meaning series. And I thought, in my, it might have been Dave Rubin doing it, but in my head, it was like

one of his students. I don't really know who did it. It must have been 10 years ago now, maybe more. And I thought, oh, man, I've been looking for somebody who pulled together psychology and anthropology. He did it from a Judeo-Christian perspective, but he pulls a lot of these things together. And I thought, that's it. That's the guy. And then he went on into creating the narrative for young men those initiatives he was doing. Yeah, you got to be sharp because he'll be like, well, you got to save your father from the belly of a whale as long as not within a larger scope of the burning bush. You got to really stay on it. But he wants young men. Jonah, Jonah and the whale has been a theme of his throughout all of his stuff. It really has.

It's funny you bring that one up. But that's the one that keeps popping up for him. So it's very interesting. And he wants, he really wants young men and young women to thrive. He's in love. He is I've never seen somebody so in love with their wife besides you, Dr. Drew. Thank you. Thank you. We sat at dinner and they are madly, madly in love. And I thought this is correct. And he lives by what he preaches, which is family is the most important thing.

So nobody's being told that hardly ever anymore. Well, no, no, no, no. I think that the follow on to that from a faith perspective was Charlie Kirk. I was thinking that at his memorial over the week and I thought he is taken what I hope what Charlie, what Jordan Peterson has been preaching,

the topic he's been preaching about in a very comprehensive way and Charlie has distilled it down to get married, have kids, have faith, make meaning. He just kept it very simple. And I thought, oh, I really hope that that's what comes through here. I should distinguish. Nobody on the left is being told that.

And I really mean that. I don't, it's, it doesn't exist. And even my male friends, I'm 38, they all want to have kids and their leftist girlfriends and wives don't. And I see these guys like so lost because they hit a wall. Like, where do I go from here? Just going to market and drag shows every single. you know what i was on tim pool a couple months ago and one of the two of the guys in his studio

with him i don't know if they're regular i don't listen to him enough to know what these guys are regulars but um they both said to me they were like 20 something at mid 20s and they were like all i want is direction i want to know how to make meaning i want how to live right i need direction somebody's got to tell me and i thought wow that's such a change because when i was that age it was I F off, you know, the casting off the yoke of society. Now, it's very different than now, which is like, hey, let's help me. Help me, help me make meaning of all this. It's everything.

Yeah, I wake up and I just go, write a joke, find a way to film it, go fly somewhere, tell it on stage. It just, it keeps me on track. And it's people on, I hate to make it political, but I would say anywhere from moderate to the right that are so enthusiastic about it my crowds are unbelievable the people that scream what's their favorite what's their favorite imitation or what do you guys call it a impression what do you guys call it impression yeah yeah yeah well everyone everyone has a different one and again because i was never well and on the jimmy kimmel front they wouldn't let me do my impressions on his show they said jimmy will be offended because he's friends with the celebrities you

you do. And so that was close to me. That was before I was political, anything. And so everybody's got their different one. I mean, Joe Rogan on his podcast didn't let me do RFK. He shut me down. So it's like, I don't

know what the hell's going on anymore. I just... Do you have to do Trump? Where? For Joe. No, on Kimmel. Oh, and Kimmel. That was okay, right? no no this was before

I don't this was pre Trump or he was president but I was still really woke and probably not making fun of Trump yet so that wasn't it it was Woody Allen they said he's too controversial and it wasn't like a

pro Woody Allen it's just a good impression it was Ryan Gosling Owen Wilson you know they strung me along for months and by the way Jimmy has canceled all stand-up comedians on his show, which you're going to talk about free speech. That was a big outlet for comedians. And Colbert won't even sit and watch the comics. He fakes it like he's there.

He has the comics come in like cattle, and they do their sets in one day. These guys are so narcissistic. They don't even want funnier comics on. That's really interesting. interesting. Caleb, I hear you ring it in here. Did you want to ask Tyler something? How did you know that I was about to? I didn't even make a sound here. No, I, I noticed something that I, something I noticed about the right as opposed to the left is that we actually invite and basically beg, please make fun of us. One of the biggest ways that the right shows love is through the thousands of different variations of J.D. Vance memes. That's how they show they love him. And I also read that Charlie Kirk's own producer has been. telling South Park, please put the episode back up. Charlie loved it. He loved that he made fun of him. I don't think anyone on the right gets offended by that stuff. If it's actually funny, some of the

stuff S&L has been doing, I'm like, guys, there's a hundred things, hundred funnier things you could use about RFK than the one joke that you always go to. Just make it funny and we'll love it. Yeah, you're correct. What I find is when people are more explicit about their politics at my shows, if they're on the right, if the joke doesn't land, they sit there and they wait for the next joke. On the left, I have to have people dragged out by security all the time. I just had a protest my show in Minnesota. So the data's in. I don't like to keep listening to this show because we're going to hear a lot about how that is all funded and what that web looks like. We're going to get into that after I let you go. And I'm

fascinated by all that because I had no idea. The most shocking thing about a million things left me gobsmacked about COVID, but the two that were the most striking to me was, A, how my peers behaved, and B, that the government was involved in

this pressure and silencing. It never would have occurred to me. Neither of those things were in my potential repertoire of how reality worked. They both were just came out of nowhere, but I'm glad they showed themselves because now I see you.

I know you are now. And they waited for Jimmy Kimmel, whose ratings were in a grave. That's their free speech martyr. It's like, we're not falling for it anymore. Go read the comments from all these celebrities supporting him. They're getting obliterated. We're done, you know. Well, I think that's the point.

You know, I'm going to say this to you now. I don't remember I was going to say it to somebody else. but I was thinking this morning about Servantes, about Don Quixote. Don Quay, I know, Susan's laughing at me. This is probably the nerdiest thing I've ever said. So prepare yourself, and I've said a lot of nerdy things. Don Quixote, when I read that book, I thought, oh, this is about a previous generation clinging to their values.

He wanted to be a knight and he wanted to save the damsel in distress. and he was so in delusion about his ancient ideas that he started having sword fights with windmills, tilting at windmills, taking his lance and driving into a windmill. And it was all, and old Sancho Pancha, who represented the younger guys, were like, dude, you said, please sir, stop doing that.

It's not real, it's not happening. And I thought, that is what is happening right now. That these celebrities think that they're still relevant, that people are going to respond. to them that television is as powerful as it used to be it just isn't and it's and it reminded me of don quixote strangely so there's my nerd you bring that up to jordan peterson when you talk to him and he would he would take it and do something with it i think i'll run it by him yeah but but again back to half the country being silenced canceled fired censored de-platformed there's been a

monster brewing underground and now we're all coming on going where we're were you? Yeah. Yeah, Corolla just goes, he has one asset test. Where were you during COVID? Fine. Okay, cool. Where were you during COVID? Where were you? Why did you say something then? When it was harder, when it was actually difficult. All right, my friend, good to see you. Where should people go? Tyler Fisher.com, and you can follow me. That's my tie the fish everywhere. I'm censored on Twitter right now, but YouTube, Instagram. Oh, tie the fish. In Chicago this week.

That you're censored? Yeah. Where are you censored? Oh, you're just, you just have, oh, yeah, because you left that post up. It's pinned at the top. It's pretty, it's pretty, pretty brash, Drew, you'll like it. Okay. Say I.

Tyler is not, Tyler's not known for pulling his punches. It's so great. But anyways, I need a lawyer, so please hit me up in my DMs or email. All right, my friend. Talk to you soon. Good to see you. All right. All you lawyers.

What we are doing next is Brad Thayer is coming in here. And there's a lot here. There's a lot. As I said, we are going to try to gain an understanding of this web of NGOs and not just that web, but how the CCP, Susan's going to jump through the microphone. I just know it. And the radicalization of people who are physically violent against multiple groups, he has many stories. he's published. I'll have asked him which ones we should read as a primer.

A lot of it is on Just the News, New York Post, Zero Hedge, the Federalist. So do check Brad, T-Haw-E-R. His social media is Brad Thayer, just like it sounds. He also has CPD China, as well as present danger china.org. His books, Embracing Communist China, America's Greatest Strategic Failure. which is a really interesting frame on what we're about to discuss.

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Thanks for having me. How long have you been concerned, not just about China, but this web of NGOs and domestic terror groups, and how long has that been on your radar? Oh, for many decades. Because for most of my career, I've been a student of communism, of how communist governments operate.

I'm old enough, Drew, as you are, to know the Cold War and to have experienced that. And, of course, we studied the Soviet Union very closely and how the Communist Party of the Soviet Union operated directly through its intent, but also through front organizations, those who were fellow travelers or who were going along with the Soviet Union, but who wanted to have some plausible deniability, right? they did not want to be associated with the Soviets or with communism directly, but they acted for all intents and purposes, of course, as agents of the Communist Party. Well, the Chinese Communist Party does the same thing. They're a knockoff of the Soviets, and they've been operating the same way. One of the things the communists have done drew very importantly is that they have introduced from the outset, really, since 1919. they created an organization called the Communist International.

And the Communist International was designed to operate by any means necessary in non-communist countries to overthrow them. And one of the groups that the Communist International supported, of course, were really Antifa precursors. These were going to be the guys fighting for the streets, right? This would be the muscle that would be necessary in the street. street battles against rival political parties throughout Europe and then, of course, in the United States as well. So when we see that intent, we can understand that Antifa really has

a genealogy. And that genealogy goes back, of course, to the beginning of the Bolshevik revolution. So we shouldn't be surprised by the tactics or how this is going to be layered as well, Drew, that the Trump administration has designated Antifa a domestic terror organization, and that's going to allow the administration to get into the funding for this group, how they are connected, how they communicate the leadership,

not just the public face of the leadership, but also those who want, again, that plausible deniability, those who are going to be fellow travelers, and the media among politicians in business and with well-known foundations, for example, Tides or Soros Foundation, for example, or Act Blue. When you start investigating this, this is going to be like Schleeman at Troy, right?

You're going to have to go through layer after layer after layer, nine layers of the city before you actually get to Troy. You're going to have to go through using the powers that government now can employ. a long process, but the process has begun. And that's going to allow us to see, even in six months, this is going to look very different than it does now. We're going to be able to see a lot more of the ties, a lot more of connections. And a year from now, a year hence, I think we'll have a very good picture of really how Antifa operated in the United States,

how it worked with foundations, how it worked with the Chinese Communist Party and other nefarious actors. Two things. Do you have a sense of what they're going to find or what they're going to be able to do about it? And that's one question. And the other sort of corollary,

maybe adjacent question, is I've noticed a lot of these people that they have recruited are a subset of the homeless population. There's about 10% of people who live on the streets that are clearly, sociopathic radicals and they have shit all over their tents and

things and I've talked to some of them and they are just horrible to talk to. Is that their street soldiers and then what do you expect to find at the end of a year? Well, at the end of a year I expect to find that we're going to see

that Antifa was the muscle but the brain and the nervous system really are going to be the key elements here and the brain is going to be I think, rooted in the Chinese Communist Party through their intelligence apparatus, through their United Front Work Department and other tools that they use

to undermine the United States, working in conjunction directly, but also as fellow travelers with Soros Foundation, with Act Blue, with major donors to Democrat Party. So, and those individuals will have received, receiving top cover from media, of course, from major Democratic politicians as well through.

So there's a lot that's going to be uncovered. Some of it is going to come out, I think, very quickly. A little bit more is going to be difficult, but take a little bit longer to ascertain. But it will come out now that they're going to be applying these tools against them. Your question with respect to the foot soldiers is a very important run, right, that somebody is paying these individuals. Antifa, to hear them say, right, they're essentially opaque with respect to their funding, with respect to their organization. In fact, they deny that they have an organization or that they have a funding when, in fact, that's an obvious lie. That's obvious deception.

They're able to pay these individuals. They're able to use these individuals as muscle. Again, but you know as a doctor, right, it's the muscle, but it's the nervous system and the brain, which is really operating that. And so let's get to the brain and let's get to the nervous system, how they're paid, how they communicate, and how they strategize importantly. So when we see it that way, Antifa's muscle, Antifa is also a recruiting office. It provides training and it provides, in fact, a higher education and violence for its members. And thirdly, it also provides that shield for academics, for the media, for politicians, again, to have that plausible deniability. So in the genealogy of communist organizations, this is exactly, it fits it exactly, where you have the essentially nefarious actors,

driving this. They're working through muscle, and they're doing their utmost to provide layers of protection so you don't know what they're doing and they're able to continue to bring about their undermining. Is Soros understand that the CCP is a major influence on all this? And if not, what does he think he's doing? I would, I don't know George Soros, of course, or, but I would have to, he is an individual who's very knowledgeable about European history and Soviet history and communist thought and how communists operate. So I would have to believe that he's knowledgeable about how the Chinese Communist Party is operating to undermine the United States as he is working to operate to undermine the United States

through this organization, but also immigration, of course, the migrant crisis, of course, as President Trump identified today at the UN, right? The UN is funding it, but a lot of other actors are funding that too. So we want to see that that's the second pillar here. It's Antifa, to be sure, is one front, if you will, but there are multiple fronts in this conflict. In immigration, the migrant crisis, right, importing millions. and millions and millions of individuals

into Europe, into the United States, Canada, Australia is by design, right? That somebody is directing that. And pulling on this thread, the Antifa thread, I think is going to reveal a lot more about multiple pillars

in terms of how the brain is operating to undermine us. Wow. I have a historical question and it is it is fueled by my preoccupation with 1789. I was thinking about how you mentioned in the streets, you know, getting control of the streets and the foot soldiers in the streets.

That didn't really exist before 1789. Before that, it was feudal systems or at least kingdoms, and there were sort of armies raised and the armies would fight each other, or maybe there'd be an uprising and that would be against the king or some Duke or something. You know, it would be an excess tax. But this idea of taking over a bureaucratic state was invented in 1789. Is that true? And do people that are communists think about things that way?

Oh, absolutely. They do. So the French Revolution was supremely important for that. As the English Revolution, it's about 1642 and after, where you had a lot of the same processes play out. But, no, absolutely they're thinking in that way. Communism, of course, is intending to destroy the U.S., right, to destroy political liberalism, our history, our ideology,

our political culture, our constitutional republic. And they've been hammering at it in what I've called the 100-year-s war. We fought 100-year-s war with communism. We just don't identify it as such, where they do, right? They're quite explicit about what they want and how they're targeting us. And we've been slow, really, to respond. I think President Trump's efforts here are going to be supremely important for allowing the American people to see that what looks to be discreet and what looks to be separated is in fact not, right? that there are going to be ties, there are going to be patterns of behavior, there's going to be communication, there's going to be money, and there's going to be strategy and direction.

Some of that's in Beijing, some of that's going to be driven by individuals in Europe and in the United States. It's going to allow us to see that a lot of what ails the West and Western civilization is deliberate, and that West, the West has been targeted for destruction. And they've been supremely successful so far. And President Trump is doing his utmost to turn the rudder, right? To be able to recognize, hey, we've got a huge problem here, as you said at the UN today, right, boldly telling them to their faces, right? What they needed to hear, what they know, but needed to be here and what needed to be made explicit about we're moving in the wrong direction. And if we're going to save the United States, if we're going to save more broadly the West, we need to act now. to call these people out, identify them,

and if they've broken the law, then so be it. I mean, to have Department of Justice and equivalent ministries and other countries act accordingly. Is it, you know, I forget the full name of the act, the Munt Act, that President Obama had, yeah, he reversed it. But was that an attempt to get at some of this stuff? And is it going to go back?

Obama wanted to make it easier. Looks at everything. Yeah, Obama wanted to make it easier. So Smith-Mund said the U.S. government can't propagandize the American people, in essence. And Obama said to heck with that, right? Of course, we're going to propagandize the American people, which was part of his effort to undermine, of course, the U.S. So I think revisiting that is going to be very important. And I think that there will be as part of President Trump's efforts working with Congress to restore that.

So, you know, we don't have Washington propagandizing the American people, targeting the American people explicitly for, if you will, propaganda. The point of not only 1789, but 1776 was to perfect. that, right? To ensure that we have freedoms. Yeah. And we are men and women. From our government. Indeed.

So let's hope that's the first. To that point, let's hope so. To that point, we talk a lot of this show, we have talked a lot about the COVID virus. I'm wondering if you have a prism with which to look at that, number one, the actual release or whatever that was. And then there are people that watch my program that believe that the vaccine is, itself was another part of this warfare and that the mandates were meant to harm rather than help. What is your perception on this? I think it's quite clear that the virus was, it was engineered. It was manufactured by Tony Fauci and by, in essence, in the People's Republic of

China. So it was a deliberate, maybe the release was accidental. Maybe the release was intentional, and I think we'll continue to get to the bottom of that. With respect to the vaccine, I would say what worried me about that, and I think listening to Tyler Fisher, your previous guest, really drove that home. It brought back a lot of memories. It's curious how we forget. You know, COVID was not that long ago, but it seems, at least to me, right, it seems like a long time ago that the overreach, right, the government took the mask off and showed what it really could do in the U.S., but in Europe, in the West more broadly, and that people would go along with that, right?

That they would, in fact, you know, government could send a strong signal, but then the people would take up, you know, almost in an Orwellian, 1984 sense. You knew what Big Brother wanted you to do, so you became your own policeman, right? And you policed your local community with respect to that. So I think the reaction is terrifying, and some have called it a beta test, really, for control. And you can certainly see elements of that, where the government overreached. The Constitution was thrown out the window for, a period of time.

And that really needs to be studied and discussed regularly. It needs to be not as a distant memory, but it needs to be fresh in mind. And then also, Drew, what we need to do is, hey, the PRC was responsible

for this. They knew what had been released. We need to ensure that there's an accounting there, right? We need to have a court and the world has to get together, create a tribunal, and send the bill to Beijing, right? What do they owe the world for the tens of millions who were killed

for the hundreds of millions who were adversely affected and for the billions of people who were adversely affected by the virus? I am very pessimistic that such a court would assemble, but I'm not so pessimistic from the standpoint of people becoming a way to the fact that China must be taken to task in some fashion. That it needs to be held accountable. It needs to be contained. And, you know, we need to remember this and use it as a motivation to go, okay, okay.

We were asleep at the wheel. No more, no more. Indeed. Well, they do have assets, of course, that can be seized. So, you know, if we ever do sit down and figure out the bill, I think that's an exercise the world should go through. In the United States, we should do that and to never forget what we went through. We went through not only the horrific effects of the virus, but then even more so the government overreach

and the terrifying implications of that. It was absolutely shocking, shocking. And still, look, you could hold the government accountable for it too. They harmed a lot of people with these mandates. Susan, do you have any questions for Brad? I totally agree with him. Yeah. So, so I was...

That makes me crazy. What does? Thinking about, like, how we never made China feel accountable for any of it, especially during the Biden administration. It was like, why aren't we asking them, you know... Because it's racist, Susan, you're a racist if you say something about China. Why is this okay? But now that we know everything that went on behind the scenes,

we realized that we were colluding with them. so it's really it's it's it's i it's open this show by saying i'm i come to you today from the upside down and i i give you as uh as uh evidence or uh example one uh i was listening to french media this morning and they were routinely on television describing the charlie kirk at least a fundamentalist revival as a nazi gathering as a nazi event and they literally side-by-side pictures with Hitler's gathering. It's just mind-boggling.

It is indeed, and it shows really what we're up against. But again, taking down Antifa and its related groups is going to reveal a lot, and that's going to cause a lot of money to dry up. It's going to

cause a lot of political pressure to be brought to bear, and it's going to allow the American people and the people of the people of the French to recognize this, the Germans, the British, the Irish to recognize really what's been going on here and then to act accordingly. And we have to recognize the West is in peril. And you look at Kirstarmer's UK, you look at France, you know, as you may look at Germany throughout Europe, Australia. This episode is brought to you by Square. You're not just running a restaurant. You're building

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but one of them is a character in Hemingway's son also arises, where one character was asking him about his bankruptcy. You know, how did it go? And the guy says, well, first it was slow, then it was fast. And we have to be very careful. We don't get into that asymptotic phase. We've been near, we've been at the beginning of it, for sure. I think that's exactly right that we

Charlie Kirk I think Tommy Robinson's unite the kingdom but we can go back even to if you remember when Notre Dame de Paris reopened right in December where there was that kind of a rebirth of the West Notre Dame was now had been restored Trump was there of course

and so many important political leaders were present for that the West needs a renaissance We need the rebirth. And I think what we're seeing... The reason it didn't continue is they didn't cast out Macron as the president. But we can argue about that as a separate matter. But Brad, I've got to get to Mark here.

I want to check in with you once in a while, if you don't mind, and sort of talk about the progress of whatever it is we find out and how the press is responding to it. And are we really getting the full story? I just can imagine how this unfolds. My wife has a question first, though. So how do you feel about the relationship? between

Xi Jinping and Putin, like that whole demonstration. Like, is this making Putin feeling a little

stronger to maybe go into the UN territories? Or, like, is there, I don't know, I have a feeling. I think he recognized

it was a terrible mistake. It's a gross strategic mistake to tie himself to Xi Jinping because now he's the instrument of Xi Jinping.

He's dependent upon Xi Jinping. And, of course, Moscow and Beijing have a variety of profound problems, strategic problems that they confront one another.

So, and Putin has to worry about Xi Jinping exercising regime change, right? If Putin's not going to play along, given the dependents, then maybe there's some other Russian who could do the job better in Xi Jinping's eyes. So Putin has committed

just strategic idiocy in invading Ukraine and then sustaining that war and thereby ensuring that his only friend really is the devil on earth, right? The devil incarnate in Xi Jinping. So I think it's, you know, many steps are being taken, but fundamentally at root, Putin recognizes it's a horrible mistake.

But he's to blame for it. He made his choices. I'm glad Susan asked you. That's a very interesting question. What's coming up next for you? Where should we find you? Well, I'm working on a few things, but you can always follow me at Brad Thayer on X or Bradley Thayer Getter or Bradley Thayer Truth. Thanks very much, Drew. Happy to join you again. Great. I think it would be very interesting. This is important material.

Okay. And we are going to... I get so nervous. I know. Susan is I can feel her vibrating. I can feel her vibrating over there. But did you like what he said about Putin? I think that would be something that you would agree with. that was an interesting I'm going to hang my hat on that and I think he's right even when we know about

Xi Jinping. Listen, we should bring Miling back in here who worked for him who Shal Ling? Jiao, Ying, Shou?

My Ling, the scientist. Not the spy Jiao Yang. I know. She's a friend of ours. I just kid her that if she's not a spy,

why isn't she? Why aren't you? I mean, It's my Dr. Lee Meng Young. Lee Meng, that's what it is. Thank you. Okay, Mark Mitchell, he has written the history of Reddit becoming radicalized and radicalizing users. Let me give you the particular on Mark where you can find him. Mark can be found at Honest Polster on X and Rasmussen underscore poll on X and Rasmussen.com.

A lot to talk about here too with Mark. thank you for joining us yeah really great to be here you know i used to listen to you back when i was like 18 years old used to listen to you on love lines great to be here good to see you so where should we start should we start with the reddit story and what's going on there it's a you know we're hearing maybe we should dovetail it into what we just heard from brad are there a sinister you know sort of uh moneyed interests that are ultimately you can follow upstream to god knows who that are getting into Reddit? My feeling is highly likely, yes, but I just want to step back for people who don't know us.

I'm an independent pollster, which means that basically neither of the political parties are paying me to try to get them to win. And we're a dying breed. And so what I'm trying to do is actually measure sentiment in the country, which is what most people don't want to know. Like most people in power don't actually want to know what the voters think because, quite frankly, they've been conflicted. And anybody painting this is kind of like still a red team, blue team, 49% to 50% country. That's not really what's happening right now. The trend is that

this is really an existential battle with a growing entrenched establishment that is all too happy to trample all over your rights in order to maintain its very powerful status quo. This election, which a lot of people don't talk about, is a referendum on institutional trust. And I don't think we're seeing it restored yet. And the vast majority of Americans actually do support Donald Trump's pretty common sense, America first. Like, we should kick illegal aliens out of the country. That's more than a 60% position. The reason that we're always so divided is just how many lies there are. And there's this core of people on the left who have been probably the most brainwashed gas lit people. And it's going to create a societal problem. I think we're like are approaching the reckoning now. And it's

especially bad for the young people, which is what brings me to Reddit. And I've been screaming about Reddit for the longest time, because everybody harps about how bad MSNBC is. And MSNBC is really bad. The polling that we had back in the fall, people who say they trust MSNBC most, their number one election issue was threats to democracy, and their number two is abortion. It was like 75 percent of them. But if you watch Fox News, it was like, no, prices are high, and we want the illegal is gone. So two completely different fact sets, two Americans, two totally different set of core virtues. And I think what happens is that Donald Trump gets elected. A lot of people are going to pat themselves on the back on the Republican Party. Hey, we're doing pretty good.

Things look bright. Trump's going to fix anything. Well, no, you have this coming group of people 18 to 29s that did vote for Trump more than they were expected to. I'll put it that way. but we did the polling. And these people do not believe what traditional Western value American believing people do. They do not, they think the economy is unfair, even people that identify as conservatives and Republicans. They believe in income caps and wealth confiscation is really dark. Like 75% of people who say they identify as conservatives. Conservatives want to nationalize major industries like energy, technology, technology,

and health care in order to give more control and equity of the people. That's frightening. And these people are not in a good position to be in charge. So people beat up on folks like MSNBC. Well, MSNBC's popularity is crashing. Its ratings are in the tank. It's rebranding. Its website is now almost ranked 900 in the U.S. It's irrelevant. So where are these people being radicalized? Well, it's on the Internet. And it's not on Blue Sky. Blue Sky is a place for like the post-Hippie boomers to share nature pictures and then talk about how much they hate Trump. But the 18 to 29s, the teenagers, they go on to Reddit

is the fifth largest website in the U.S. It's basically replaced bulletin boards. So the largest community for everything, every niche interest, is on Reddit. And those people are getting exposed to essentially a very highly cultivated monoculture that doesn't believe in capitalism. It's pro-antifascist.

It's overwhelmingly LGBTQ-supporting. Gallup says that 23% of Gen Z now identifies as LGBTQ. This is where they're going. The Ask Transgender and the transgender subreddits on Reddit are bigger than Christianity is. And so people say, oh, things are going great. 18 to 29 year olds, super conservative. No, they voted for Trump, but they don't like the system. And if they don't get Trump, they're going to vote for open communists.

They're going to change the system if they ever get the keys of power. So how do we address that? And these people are being radicalized in. to Antifa. You can go to the anti-fascist of Reddit subreddit and see right there there's links to places on the dark web. There's discord communities. These people have been

it's been an open on-ramp for radicalized teenagers who have nothing to live for. These people don't, they think the economy's unfair. A lot of them think they're never going to have a house. Only 35% of them think that today's children will be better off than their parents. Like the numbers just cross the board.

Really, really bleak. A lot of them aren't even trying to date. Of the number of singles, I think we have almost. But I keep hearing, maybe I'm ahead of the numbers or maybe you can tell me the numbers. I keep hearing, this show is, the theme of the show has been about the young males. The young males want to be able to reassert themselves. They want to start dating and they want to have families, which is a new thing. And they've also been asking for some sort of moral guidance.

They literally asking explicitly for it. I was surprised when I started hearing it, but they were actually. saying it to my faith. Like, this is what we want. I was surprised. Is it possible that there's this brewing group within what you're describing there that is sort of growing? Or is that fringy?

No, 100%. I think what we're going to look back at the Revolutionary War. And I think it's fair to say that if a couple of sort of really out there militia men in Massachusetts hadn't fired a couple of shots, we might not have had a revolutionary war. we might not have seen the Declaration of Independence. And so what happens is you have this, like, it's a topic I talk about often. I'm not a historian, but I think there's a lot of merit to something called the fourth turning theory.

And I have to know it because I measure public opinion and one of the hallmarks of what happens in a fourth turning. It's the churched up version of weak men create hard times, hard times create strong men, strong men create good times. And we're at the weak men create hard times. to the strong men create good times. Like we are right there in that interface. And what you can track is individualism

and rising institutional distrust. That's where we are. Peak demand for organizational order and low supply. That's exactly nobody trusts medical industry. Nobody trusts entertainment. Nobody trusts academia. Nobody trusts public school teachers.

Nobody trusts their neighbor. They're not helping each other out. This is literally as bad as society hopefully gets because history tells us that this will precipitate a major crisis. And what happens is instead of a top-down push, Donald Trump can't fix all of himself, instead of a top-down push, there's a bottom-up pull for a return to strong institutions, social cohesion, shared experiences, all of the things that we all love and remember

from the late 40s, early 50s, and 60s before everything started to fall apart again. Now, we can see that kind of thing happen. Like if you went back and thought about, okay, well, no, November, December of 2000. If you talked to somebody in December 2000 and said, well, you know, in 10 months, George W. Bush is going to have an 85% approval rating. Everybody would have laughed at you because people were fighting at each other over 300 hanging chads.

The country was like torn and hanging on every word of the Supreme Court. And yet one thing happened in New York and all of a sudden you have a threefold increase in enlistment. everybody, everybody was brutally attacking any messenger that was not the core value of America. Now, you could argue about whether what happened was right or wrong. But all Cindy Sheehan did, for instance, is just question the official narrative about the predicate for war. And that woman was brutalized by everybody. I mean, it was not, she had a lot of courage.

I never thought I would find myself agreeing with her. But what history tells us is that we are still due for something even bigger than that, that will reform society. And I'm not making this up. We had World War II. We had the Civil War. We had the Revolutionary War. Two things. Two, two things.

Usually those things come from the outside, don't they? I mean, there's some sort of event, something comes in that galvanizes us. And COVID was an opportunity to do that. We went the other way. I think COVID really showed everybody, like, how bad the issue of oppression was. Like, we really were oppressed in a very soft manner. And they pushed too hard on their. mechanisms of control. This mass formation psychosis, I believe there was some election integrity

problems in 2020, but I also believe that many people who were not political came out and voted because the bouncing ball sing along on ABC told them to. And unfortunately, what happened is within 12 months, everybody was reevaluating that because, I mean, we went from the biggest turnout in electoral history, again, caveat mail-in ballots, to stadiums across. the country shouting, shouting FJB. It was that rapid. He had an absolute catastrophic plunge. All of his political capital was gone. And it was all laid bare. I think that was really the opening shot of the end of the culture war because Donald Trump had not yet won the 2024 election already. People were boycotting Bud Light. People were coming after Disney. The culture became

the anti-globalomo, force the message down your throat, pro-establishment, everybody has to think the same thing message. And that was, I think a lot of people had courage and did that. That's when we were asking questions about the vaccine and election integrity. And that's how we got on the Global Engagement Center's list of top 50 dangerous Twitter accounts they wanted to take down. Now, the problem is, is it like here we have Trump. I think a lot of people, Like, we saw something incredible in our polling, right direction polling, which is not Trump job approval. The word Trump's not even in the question. It's a very good question.

And we track that every day. And it shot up above 40 and has been there every week of Trump's term. That has never happened before. The longest record we had was seven weeks in a row. So people were very happy. Weight was lifted. People want institutional reform. We had like 53% of America saying the FBI was Joe Biden's personal Gestapo.

everybody says, oh, mockingbird media, that's a fringe conspiracy theory. You know, 64% think the CIA is literally just telling news organizations what to say. They really do. And so what I've been saying to the Trump administration is, like, we need to return to institutional trust. But you can't just slap Cash Patel at the head of the FBI and expect people to forget that it was the Gestapo. And so there's a real problem here. I don't trust, I don't know how you go after Reddit, quite frankly, I do think there should be some investigations. It has a very anonymous moderator structure. Many of the top moderators

moderate a lot of the influential subreddit. So a very small amount of unknown people can influence the dialogue on the fifth biggest website. The politics subreddit is like nine million people. And if you watch it, it drives the narratives that go out to the other channel. Who are these people? It could be foreign nationals. There could be money involved. Or it literally just could be something that's bad for society that is free speech. So you're at once telling me something very scary and very optimistic, right? Are you, is that, am I not hearing you right? That you're saying the wheel is turning, the fourth turning is coming.

Strong men are going to assert themselves. It will end the culture war, will reestablish institutions and their integrity and our trust in them. And at the same time, oh, oh, the end of the world is coming because the 18 to 29-year-olds are being so radicalized. Well, I mean, they're the artist generation. History tells us the millennials are going to fill the gap here. There is a power vacuum. But I guess what? The only thing I can predict is that things are going to change fast.

It's really easy to see the writing on the wall here. You know what I mean? Like we just threw out two million illegal immigrants have left, many of them self-deported. We have probably some excess deaths to reckon with. And we have a crashing wave, like no births, right? And yet we have social safety nets that are buckling. and our interest on the debts, like almost $2 trillion. Like, we're one bad economic hard landing and bond vigilante action away from some serious reckoning.

And again, with the 18 to 29-year-olds, they're unhappy, but they're also complacent. And only 17% unemployment among that age bracket. Like, what happens when it gets to 25? So I'm really worried about an economic hard landing. But nobody knows how this goes. It could be an uprising, could be a civil war. It could be a total global conflagration. I look at NATO and I think that they crave total war with every fiber of their being.

The way those guys talk about it and all the positioning about, and I don't want my kids to die in a Eurasian mudfield trampled over by a Russian tank. I don't want to see that. Now, hopefully the vacuum fills sooner rather than later and everybody kind of agrees that the society's got problems. But, I mean, like how do you fix academia? Do they all have to implode? Will they? can we suffer that and what kind of America has to exist for that to happen?

And it says it happens. Everybody thinks that like we've reached peak de-churching, for instance. Well, no, these things are cyclical. There was a major revival after the Civil War, after everybody realized, dear Lord, like, what did we do? And then you get the Methodist movement, you get the Victorian era. So we're going to see that again. It's just like at what cost. Yeah.

And did you think that Charlie Kirk contributed one way or the other? I think Charlie Kirk could be a harbinger. And it's the one-two punch of Arena Zerutska and Charlie Kirk. Because I think symbols are powerful. You remember the 2020 election and the red and blue lines. I did that stickers that people were putting on the pump. Well, this picture of Arena Zerutsko on the train followed by the video of Charlie Kirk has changed America's issue set.

Donald Trump's approval rating was floundering. And it shot up 10 points in like three or four days. But we had, we asked how concerned people are about political violence. And that number hit 90, 69% very concerned. That's more than inflation. So, I mean, as of this week, that's the number one issue in America's mindset. 85% think there's going to be more political killing. And 85% agreed with Trump that this is about demonization of your political opponents.

Now, we also have like a very unfortunate 26% of America. America. It says that Charlie Kirk was speaking hateful words. And while his murder was tragic, it was understandable, including 42% of Democrats. So there's some tough stuff. Like the Democrats are not ubiquitously Trump's a fascist Hitler. I love seeing Charlie Kirk killed. It's a minority of them. But the problem is that those are the people that wield like ubiquitously, the levers of power on the left. On the right, all the, everybody's very, very consistent on the right, except for maybe on like Israel. The problem is on the right, it's you have like the Republican Party fighting Donald Trump for what's going to happen for the future of the party. And I honestly don't

know where that goes, but the 2026 election like doesn't look that good. It's going to be touch and go. It's beyond the ability of polling at this point to predict what's going to happen, probably going to be a den pick out up in the house. And there goes Trump's reform agenda, legislatively at least. But we haven't, like I haven't heard. Have we heard positive? affirmation that the CIA will no longer make it. Like 41% of America thinks the CIA was involved in killing Kennedy. Have we ever done a root cause and corrective action? Have we fired the people of the FBI that were persecuting J-Sixers and going after school board grandmas? Like, what about the people that weaponized the IRS? There's been no institutional correction of this. And how can

how can voters feel confident in their government now when the and you know brad said a lot of really great things about what we might uncover about antifa but it joins a growing list of about a hundred things that we need massive accountability on believe or not this country thinks that left wing violence is more of a problem or right wing violence is more of a problem than left wing violence well it's because jan six we haven't we haven't uncovered what was really going on there we need to we have to be able to uncover the lies on all the medical vaccine stuff on all of it also i was looking at the data on right-wing violence it's it's bizarre they exclude essentially all of the left-wing violence and then measure after having excluded it measured against right-wing violence is

fairly quite bizarre but um i don't know there's something about a the uh the religious ideologies is dangerous in politics but there's something though about a public exercising execution that changes a mob. I mean, almost always mobs go until there's blood and then there's kind of a catharsis of some type. And it being so viewed by so many millions of people and it being so dramatic, I can't imagine that's not going to have ripples going down the line. Caleb, what did you put up there about COVID-19? Even before the Charlie Kirk thing happened, oh, sorry, the arena Zarutzka thing, we pull on the death penalty and that's a pretty pivotal question. Like it tells you a lot about a human what they answer that it was plus 13 the last time we asked 49 to 36 well they

went to Carlos brown executed 60 to 20 so plus 40 that's a really really big move that's america craving justice and like he's probably going to sit on death row for 20 years as is tyler robinson as is luigi mangione so how can how can people get justice well it's it's it's Again, we get very confused about what justice is in this country, it seems to me. But Caleb, you put something up there about COVID-19? Yes. What was that? Look at this amazing news.

Today, YouTube, their parent company, Alphabet, basically admitted in a letter, a public legal letter, that they were under pressure from the Biden admin to shut down a bunch of channels during COVID-19 and during the elections. Of course. We were one of them. We all knew this. This is all stuff that we already knew, but they're finally admitting to the truth. truth that we already knew. Now, YouTube is also extending an olive branch and saying, oh, we can come and apply and we'll reinstate a bunch of the channels that might have been banned, including a list of people who are now currently top secretary people in the admin's

cabinet right now. But the problem is, all of the good people, we've already moved on. We're on Rumble now. We're on X now. So YouTube is still shadow banning our channel right now. YouTube is still, though, the largest. We still have some good followers over there. It's still the largest platform. We would happily go back. I'd have to go back if they would create a level playing field. We just need to unleash us.

I just started later and got lucky, I guess, but we dodged the YouTube band bullet, and we have talked a lot about vaccines and election integrity. They've actually been our biggest partner in spreading election misinformation and health disinformation. Things like 56% of Americans now think the vaccine is. likely causing a significant number of unexplained deaths. We would absolutely, we would love, I have a long history with YouTube. I started on YouTube in 2007 as a teenager and that's how I got into this whole field. So I keep on extending our own olive branch to them and saying, please, we would love to.

Dr. Drew is a perfect fit for viewers on YouTube, especially with all the time he was on TV and radio. Why can't you guys just work with us? So if you have any contacts there, we would love to work with YouTube somehow. I'll try. I have a partner manager. We could help them clean it up for me. We could help them. So.

I just feel like it's the international reach that's stopping it. Like I think that through how his message reaches too far. I don't know. I just think it has something to do with that. Well, Mark, I want to, I want to, I hope you'll send us your data as it comes out because I, you open this by saying nobody wants to hear with the number show. I desperately want to know with the number show. if there's a way we can stay in touch with you and if you'll help us

help us amplify what it is you're putting out there, I'd be happy to do that because Rasmussen has been spot on on so much. I mean, it's just been the of course they get more, you know, everyone attacks them because they specifically because the numbers

aren't what they want to hear, right? And that's why people attack you guys. And I know what numbers, numbers don't lie. They may not be up to the minute, right? There may be something brewing that changes things, whatever, but numbers are just the numbers.

And we got to listen to them. But I want to wrap with, are you, I understand you're afraid, but are you, are you optimistic? Where is your head at? And what are you kind of looking toward? I think that there will be a realization in the next few months that, well, first, a lot of good things can happen. I'm hearing rumors about in panel grand juries to look at election integrity. we saw Trump's truth, the Pambandi asking, begging for action. We saw the stuff that might start happening on the antifa.

I'm just like very mistrustful of the federal government's ability to police and fully fix itself. And so I think over the next 12 to 24 months, what we're going to see is probably a realization that Trump can't fix this all on himself. And there's a lot, like you said, there's a lot of people that lack direction. And there's really no way for them to get involved. The Republican Party doesn't want them. Corporate America doesn't want them.

You know what I mean? They've been shut out of a lot of stuff. And I don't know what it looks like, but if a lot of people get involved in volunteer. I think the ship writes, I think Charlie Kirk's simple message, fall in love, get married, have kids, make meaning. If they can hear that through all this trauma of a public execution, that will get their rudder in the way. the water. It just naturally does that. But we'll see. We'll see. Very interesting. So I'm just, I'm, I'm, I am worried about it all the time as you clearly are, but you're having to look at the numbers. I'm glad I don't have to, but I would love to amplify them for you and at least

and maybe looking at the numbers will help change the numbers, you know? Maybe it will help people wake up to stuff. I hope looking at them is the only thing that keeps me seen. I appreciate the help. Yeah, we'll definitely give you an account. All right. Thanks so much. Where do you want people to go? Where do you want people to go? Rasmussen underscore poll on Twitter. Honest pollster on Twitter. And we also do YouTube channels.

We stream twice week, Tuesday, Thursdays, usually, and then put out a lot of bespoke videos. Mostly it's like the pollsters are lying to you. That's the core of our content. But we'll talk about American public opinion. Well, I have weirdly always looked to Rasmussen as sort of, I listen, my ear to the ground and say, okay, what are they saying? And it's been a good guide.

So thank you for that. Thank you. all right everybody thank you so much thank you mark thank you to my guest today very interesting let me look at you guys out on the re-stream of the rumble rant i went way over of course who does who's they uh well interesting we'll see if that gets unraveled according to brad it'll get unraveled i'm i look forward to it another loaded show the next couple of days Naomi Wolfe, Nick Holscher, Jessica Rose, too much, too much to talk about. Aaron Siri, Tiff, and, I don't know who that is, but Corey D'Angles is all about the, I'll find out who Tiff is, of course.

Corey D'Angles is all about the charter schools. Andrew Burkhoff is my indulgence. He's a French journalist. He was on fire today. I've got a lot to talk to him about because he's sort of, I think today's the day. the comparing the the Charlie Kirk Memorial with a Nazi

event that was his bottom that he was just like he was on fire today he actually left what he was doing and joined another group that he's speaking we'll find out what he's thinking I guess Jessica Rose is on there twice is that true or maybe she's switching over to the first Joe Lattipo and the first later of Florida

Casey DeSantis joins us got a lot to get into we will get into it all tomorrow at 2 o'clock. We will see you there. At all. Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Caleb Nation and Susan Pinsky. As a reminder, the discussions here are not a substitute for medical care, diagnosis, or treatment. This show is intended for educational and informational purposes only. I am a licensed physician, but I am not a replacement for your personal doctor and I am not practicing medicine here.

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