Ask Dr. Drew - Nick Freitas vs. Black Pilled Republicans & “Looksmaxxing” Masculinity + Pfizer Executive Admits “60,000 Deaths” in mRNA Whistleblower Testimony w/ Sonia Elijah – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 612

Episode Date: April 19, 2026

Retired Green Beret and Virginia legislator Nick Freitas (author of The Manbook) discusses the crisis of modern masculinity, how to push back against “black-pilled” doomers on the political right, and the fundamental standards every man needs to meet. And in explosive testimony in Germany, Dr. Helmut Sterz (former Pfizer executive & head of their EU toxicology centers) estimated up to 60,000 COVID vaccine-related deaths in Germany alone. Elon Musk responded by posting “The vaccine dosage was obviously too high and done too many times…my second vaccine shot almost sent me to the hospital. Felt like I was dying. Investigative journalist Sonia Elijah exposes the institutional cover-up, and how HHS Secretary Alex Azar invoked the PREP Act to grant blanket liability to vaccine manufacturers a full 35 days before the WHO even declared a pandemic. Sonia Elijah also discusses “miracle” updates from Edogawa Hospital in Japan, the only facility known to have successfully cleared spike proteins and amyloid blood clots using dual filter plasmapheresis and stem cells. Sonia Elijah is an independent investigative journalist and former BBC researcher. She is author of 3/11 Viral Takeover: On March 11, 2020, a Pandemic was Declared and Our World Changed Forever. She has conducted in-depth investigations into the COVID-19 response, including Pfizer-BioNTech trial documents, vaccine safety issues, excess deaths, regulatory failures, and institutional conflicts of interest. Follow at https://x.com/sonia_elijah Nick Freitas is author of The Manbook: A Point-by-Point Guide to Sucking It Up and Getting the Job Done. He is a retired US Army Special Forces (Green Beret) who served two tours in Iraq as a Special Forces Weapons SGT and Special Forces Intelligence SGT, after initially serving with the 82nd Airborne Division and 25th Light Infantry Division. In 2015, he was elected to the Virginia House of Delegates. He and his wife Tina have three children and live in Virginia. Follow at https://x.com/NickJFreitas 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/fatty15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/paleovalley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twc.health/drew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Executive Producers • Kaleb Nation - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • Susan Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/firstladyoflove⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Content Producer • Emily Barsh - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/emilytvproducer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Hosted By • Dr. Drew Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/drdrew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

First up, Sonia Elijah, an independent investigative journalist, BBC researcher, background and economic. She has been looking into the COVID debacle, as we have called it here. And she written a book, 3-11, VIRALENT, VIRAL-T-O-E-O-E-O-E-L-E-E-H. The pandemic was declared. You can follow Sonia on X. Sonia S-N-I-A-U-A-U-H. Both Caleb and I were remarking that's remarkable we have not her head on prior to this.

So we will get that underway. and then Nick Frightas comes in. He has the book, the man book about, I like the subtitle, Guy to sucking it up and getting the job done. He is a former U.S. Army Special Forces. We're going to talk about people that have been blackpilled and many other topics right after this. Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre.

The psychopaths start this, he was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction. Fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous. I'm a doctor for a I say, where the hell you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people.

I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals. Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Loveland all the time, educate adolescents, and to prevent, and to treat. You have trouble, you can't stop, and you want to help stop it. I can help.

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Soniaelijah one word.com. Sonia Elijah investigates is the substack. I think the podcast also and again the book is 311 viral takeover. And Sonia, thanks for being here. The first topic at hand since of course you are over there

in Europe, the testimony of the former, I think it was Pfizer executive about deaths that had been shall we say hidden from public view from the vaccine. Tell me about that. Thank you for being here. Yes, thank you for having me on. Yes, we've got Dr. Helmut Sturs, the former head of toxicology

at Pfizer Europe, estimating that between 20 and 60,000 people in Germany died as a result of the Pfizer and biotech COVID shot. And this is based on Germany's regulatory agency, P-EI, receiving roughly about 2,000 deaths, suspected deaths following the COVID shot. But what he did, he applied an under-reporting factor of approximately 30. So that's where he got that figure from. And that makes sense because we know based on the Harvard Pilgrim Healthcare Study, This was done between 2006 and 2010. The authors conclude that literally less,

fewer than 1% of vaccine adverse events are reported. And what was the reaction like? I mean, I sort of, I'm surprised the way people still push away data like this or findings like this and just sort of, yeah, but it saved a million lives. or all kinds of kind of cognitive dissonance gets kicked up. What has the reaction been like? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I think, I mean, the book I've written, which essentially is a forensic investigation into the proclaimed once in a century pandemic

and what was done in its name reveals even more damning findings, actually, Dr. Drew. But I think the damage, the carnage it's caused is just too much to, hide. I think more and more people are waking up. I'm sure a lot of people know people who've suffered from adverse events because of these experimental gene-based products. So it's getting harder to hide, but they're still trying. So this book that I've written that took me almost over three years to write. It's got over 940 citations. It's based on thousands of pages of Freedom of Information Act released documents. And also whistleblower, interviews. So not only are fatal cases being underreported, Dr. Drew, you've got the original

evidence that they were ever reported in the first place being deliberately destroyed, which is just so egregious. So one of my chapters in the book, I interview a independent senior data analyst from the Netherlands called Vauta or Kemmer. And his findings are so alarming. what he found was that at 40% of serious adverse events, including deaths, resulting from the COVID shots, are being systematically lost. And what you're finding is that are made untraceable. So every time a new case summary report is being updated, even to add a comma or a period to it,

it gets given a new case ID number. So the case, the original case is untraceable. So this is really, really damning. And we know there's been a huge cover-up on the data. The book talks about rampant censorship of the data, including censorship of the science. You have the UK HSA here refusing to disclose critical data that could possibly link the COVID shots with excess deaths that have been going on. And the reason they cite is that, oh, it will be really distressing for bereaved families.

So they're using that as a shield. It will be too harmful. It'll be too harmful for their mental well-being. And then there is the question of, you know, where the other thing that happened? happens in this country, it all gets dismissed as well. COVID is the one. COVID's the culprit. That's why we're seeing these things. And that may be true. It may be partially true, but we really don't even get the data on that because there's a possibility that the vaccine will be part of the story or the two together, the COVID with the vaccine will be the more problematic sort

of influence. But it's still not being properly studied. There was some sort of, I'm trying to look it up right now, there was a prospective study that the CDC did. I forget what it was called. But it didn't show a bunch of fertility and menstrual problems, but it didn't show deaths. Are you familiar with that study? I mean, there's been actually, there's so much evidence now, isn't there, Dr. Drew, coming to light, even though they've tried very hard to censor even the article, scientific literature exposing these harms have been systematically.

How do they do that? That's sort of mysterious to me. Other than the editors themselves seem to be like towing the line, how do they get them all to tow the line? Well, the authors, they get a letter like your studies being withdrawn or it's being, you know, or it's outright rejected by the journals. So this has been going to, how did they get them to do that? There was such, I remember the moment that it kind of broke through a little bit.

In this country, there's a pretty prominent publication called Annals of Internal Medicine. And about two years into the pandemic, there was an article about the use of Budesinide and, I think, fluvoxamine and something like that. I thought, oh, finally an article of repurposing drugs for the treatment of COVID. Thank you, Annals of Internal Medicine. But before that, not a word and certainly not much after that. How did they get all these editors on multiple continents to cooperate with this? Well, you've got so much, you know, regulatory capture going on, right? The pharmaceutical industries, they wield so much power and funding, you know.

So, yeah, the journals do the industry's bidding. But, I mean, going back to fatal cases, I'm going to talk now a bit about child deaths, which is just extremely disturbing. So I looked at the periodic safety update report submitted by Pfizer and Bioentech to the European Medicines agency. And again, this was only released because of a group of medical professionals in Europe filing Freedom of Information Act requests. Those documents got given to me to analyze, and it was so disturbing what it revealed. I mean, in the case of 12 months, you've got over 160 child deaths following the COVID shot, including deaths from myokyditis, pulmonary embolism, and these are children

with no pre-existing conditions. And what also is even more disturbing is that autopsies, the majority autopsies were not done. And this is another way they're trying to hide the link, the possible link, because they're not doing the autopsies. And then the real culprit behind those horrible findings is the fact that people were mandated to do this. did you get into the mandates and the lockdowns

and how they were able to pull that all off and why we can't start holding people accountable for those things, at least some country somewhere. I know here we have a problem with it, but you tell me. Yeah, so the beginning of the book has an appendix which is a very comprehensive detail timeline. And that took me quite a few months to compile

because with these dates, they reveal a lot of anomalies. And you can see that many things rose not organically, but were essentially kind of planned. So, for example, February 4th, you have Alex Azar, who was head of the HHS at the time, invoking the PEP Act, shielding all the vaccine manufacturers from any liability. This is weeks. And the organizations and the organizations that mandated, because it's to cover the military, who also mandated it.

Yes, absolutely. I mean, the reason actually why I chose the name, right, 311, right? That's March the 11th. That's when the World Health Organization declared a pandemic and our world changed forever. And I draw a parallel with 9-11. So after 9-11, we see this disruptive event, this crisis, but it leads to a weaponization of fear and then expanded powers by the state. You have with 9-11, we saw citizens' surveillance,

by the state, but with 311, we actually saw citizen compliance with the state, how people just, you know, they agree to stay home. We had the lockdowns. They complied. And because they essentially weaponized fear. And it's just, this is how they got people to comply. But the coordination to me is what's so extraordinary. I went to Europe in probably 2020, I guess it was. It was even worse in some kind. Like France and Greece were terrible with these lockdowns and masking and blah, blah, blah. And, you know, the citizens themselves were the prison guards. They were the ones from the bottom up sort of not just cooperating,

but, you know, they were the police force to make sure everyone had their mask on. Everyone was six feet, all this stuff that was made up. Yeah. We know that the UK government spent hundreds of millions of pounds on propaganda messages. right, messaging saying, stay at home. If you go out, you'll die. Grandma will die. Stay home, protect the NHS. People did stay home and they died of other causes like cancers and heart attacks and refusing they couldn't get access to decent medical care. So it's just really egregious what went on. But don't forget the vaccine passports that they introduced, right? That was the

Proof of concept. The proof of concept for digital IDs, which we are seeing strongly pushed right now. I can hear a phone going in the background. That's us promoting calls. We actually have a caller that wants to talk about her. She's actually a nurse who had a vaccine injury. But I heard what you said about the proof of concept. A lot of the things that happened was proof of concept.

But it also revealed to us the centralized authority. the fact that many physicians are employees, the fact that public health is out of control in many countries, that you can get a bottom-up participation in a mass psychosis. All these things are now revealed. And I did not really understand those things until we went through this experience. Christine, you're an ER nurse.

Sorry, I was muted. I wasn't. Can you hear me? Gotcha. Can you hear me? We got you. Hey there. Yes, I was an ER nurse.

I got COVID in October of 2020, and my last shift was my last shift. I contracted COVID in the ER, got the vaccine in 2021, and that completely ended my life as well as my career. So sorry. Is it chronic fatigue and that sort of stuff? So I have a myriad of issues. I have name it. I have chronic fatigue, biologic encephalobiotis, whatever you want to call it. I have, I had a weird pain syndrome initially that no one believed me. That was one of the hardest to figure out what it was. Let's see. The COVID brain fog has never gone away.

It continues to this day. I have... Have you tried anything or been effective? Have you tried any sort of treatment that's been effective for you? And I'm wondering if you have a specific question for us also. So I initially did a couple, because I got it early, not early, but I mean, October of 2020, relatively early, I did a couple of hospital protocols. Ivermectin was on one of the protocols as well as heparin because of the microclotting and a long laundry list of substance, supplement. that really did the trick from so I went from a long COVID syndrome to having just the chronic fatigue those

the protocol that I did to kind of rid my body of the COVID it worked I was looking for a way to get back to work and I knew if I went back to work I would have to get the vaccine I read somewhere, unfortunately, that someone had a positive response with the vaccine reversing their long COVID. That was circulating around. Yeah. That idea was circulating around. Yeah. And I had the unfortunate.

I wish I had never read that article because the entire time I was in the cattle call, I kept telling myself, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it. I knew it was too soon. It went against everything I knew as a nurse scientifically hadn't been tested. There's no way that this could have come to market this quickly. Like I vividly remember each step in that line telling myself not to get it. And I went from that being functional to. absolute

chaos. I've had 30 admissions 90% to the ICU. I'm going to have to put you back on the ICU for what? You name it. I'm a type one diabetic. I've never been in DCA

by entire life. I have been BCA six times. But that was only a few of the admissions. So listen, I have to put you back on hold. Did you just want to share this tale with everybody? Is that the purpose of the college? Is there something specific?

Yeah. And to let people know, there is a sense of desperation you will hear with a lot of people not being believed. I try to spread the message. Yes, I appreciate it, Christine, and fighting the fight. But I have seen not only the lack of being believed, but shaming patients, shaming them, or saying it's all in your head and all kinds of dismissive sort of qualities, when now a lot of the, I know a lot of physicians, their entire practice is just managing post-COVID, post-vaccine injuries. So yeah, Christine's story was not at all unusual in my mind.

I'm sure not yours either, Sonia. Yeah, exactly. It's interesting. She mentions Ivermectin. And as we know, the way, uh, which is an effective early treatment for COVID, got completely blacklisted, smeared, and my book does go into a lot about how that was essentially censored along with hydroxychloroquine. So, yeah. That was crazy. I mean, I was not an enthusiast of either treatment, so I talked to people who were, and to think the doctors couldn't do what they believe was in the best interest of their patient. That was the one of the, you know, the lack of informed consent, the lack of a ability of doctors to treat the patient before them. And they were mandating that their bodily integrity be violated, dismissing patients to go

home until they turn blue. I mean, there were so many egregious ethical transgressions that I literally, I was in disbelief during the whole thing. And I have to conjure it all back up because it was sort of traumatic to go through. But there's one other thing I want to get from you, since you've done all the research on this, China. so much of what started the ball rolling, a group of scientists that went to China

and fell for their bullshit. Completely fell for it. Do you chronicle that in the book as well? Yeah, I mean, I took a lot of course China's, you know, the origins of COVID, the first two chapters talks about that and the whole gain of function research going on at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, the three, pillar publications that whole

anchored the dismissed the lab or the lab origin theory as a conspiracy theory I go into all the key figures about that. Called racist here. You're a racist if you said it was from China.

That's crazy. What do you want people to learn or sort of take away from the book? Is it proscriptive in any way? And obviously you're uncovering lots of things that you think people should know so they understand how their government works, how public health works, how big pharma works, you know, how badly

our rights and privileges can be taken away in the setting of a mass psychosis. But what do you want people to take away? It's for people not to be manipulated again, right? Not to fall for it. And obviously, we know how much they weaponized fear. People were generally afraid. But we know that only, you know, the infection fatality rate was like 0.1%. which is comparable to a severe flu season.

And that was known very early on. But it is essentially to expose all of the crimes, all of the deception that went on, the coordinator's systematic censoring of any dissenting scientists, public, the vaccine injured. We know how poorly the vaccine injured were treated, a gaslit. But really the book ends with a hopeful knowledge and truth. being the antidote to all of this. And really it's to edify people.

That is why I wrote the book. Yeah. It's really an uncanny experience, this whole thing. But I guess you got to look at it as a blessing that what was there was uncovered. I mean, this potential was there. But I'm remembering right now the enthusiasm with which the scientist came back from China. They've got it. They got it done.

They locked everybody down. and they did away with the virus. There's no more COVID in Wuhan or anywhere in China. How a group of, I think it was international scientists, could come back from that and believe the crazy, crazy graph that they sent to President Xi, which was COVID, COVID, COVID, locked, you know, oh, we got a pandemic, no COVID, zero COVID. It was a hoax of the first order.

And then they came back and hoaxed us with a bunch of, of random nonsense, dreamed up ideas like six feet distancing and lockdowns and masking. We know, I just want to end with, we know that Imperial College London University, this is from Professor Neil Ferguson's report. Report 9 was pivotal in all this because many of the leaders I know. He was an evil player in this. Where has he been lately? Whether than with his consorting with his young lady that he went out with during COVID

while everybody else was locked down. So what is he doing now? What is he still in charge? I mean, I just want to make a point that that report was like if you don't lock down, you know, in the U.S., you'll have 2.2 million deaths. The UK, you'll have about half a million deaths, all based on an exponential growth of the virus. And we know that that wasn't happening.

You had the Nobel Prize laureate. Michael Levitt at that time, even back in February 2020, saying we're not having, actually it's slowing down. We're not having an exponential growth. And he also based it on inflated, fatality rate in Wuhan and not anywhere else. There were many flaws with that report. And he has a history of catastrophic overestimating. Catastrophizing. Yeah, he's a catastrophizer completely. I don't know why we ever listen to that guy. But, you know, to this day,

we treat Omicron as though it's still Alpha and Delta. So the other thing there was, the other gaslighting was when Omicron took off and they just refused to acknowledge it was a different illness. It's literally a different illness with Omicron. And oh, no, it's going to get worse. It's going to be worse. We've got to

keep it up. It's going to be worse than Alpha and Delta. Omicron is just a quick off-ramp for a little while. Then it's going to get really bad. But that's not the way pandemics go. Pandemics need a host. Now, I understand this was a manipulated by a weapon probably. So maybe that scared them. They were, you know, expecting anything.

But they should have been open and honest and allowed doctors to do their job. I was just one of the most extraordinary experiences. So, Sonia, I thank you for writing this book. I can't wait to dig into it. The timeline in particular fascinates me because every time you see it, it just you get more and more incredulous when you see all the things. things that came to bear. And you're absolutely right.

The most significant progress we can make. I say this all the time in this show, but Matthias Desmus taught us that in a mass formation, only 10% of people raised their hand and go, hey, oh, what's going on here? That needs to be a bigger number. That's 70% that just wants to be left alone. The true believers are going to be true believers.

There's nothing we can do about them. They're always going to be around. but the 70% that just keeps their head down needs to be part of the group that raises their hand and goes, hang on a second, I don't know about this. So thank you for writing the book. Hopefully we'll contribute to that. Thank you so much.

Thank you for having me on the show. You bet. I suspect this won't be the last time. Hopefully you see you again soon. Great. Take care. Thank you. You got it.

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Let's ask Dr. Drew. I have no idea who Dr. Drew is. He's been watching a lot of Dr. Drew lately. Nick Fray-Jas has a book, The Man Book. He is a retired U.S. Army Special Forces Green Beret, served in two tours in Iraq. Weapons and Intelligence. He initially served with the 82nd Airborne Division. He has been elected to the Virginia House of Delegates

where he serves on the finance and courts of justice, public safety as well. He is married with three kids, lives in Virginia. You can follow him on X. Nick J. Freitas, F-R-E-I-T-A-S. And Nick, thank you for joining us. Thanks for having me on, Dr. Drew. So this is sort of an important topic. I think.

And I like this. I really like the subtitle of your book. Have you, have you been on Adam Carolla show? He seems like somebody, he was somebody he'd like to talk to. I haven't yet. I'm a fan of Adams,

but haven't gotten a chance to speak with him yet. All right. I will sort of send your contact over that way because this is something he talks about all the time. And it's essentially that, well, I mean, you can talk more globally about men having forgotten to be,

men, but one of the things that really disturbs him is men don't know how to do anything and they don't know how to get anything done. They don't just, you know, men have a tendency to want to do stuff and be pragmatic and just solve problems and do things, you know, whether it's with our head or our hands. I feel like you're putting your finger on that a bit with this book. That's certainly the attempt. I think it has to start off with understanding that part of the reason why a lot of young men aren't doing that as much is because for the last two decades, they've been told that they're the source of all the world's problems. Instead of being told, to be strong and capable and intelligent.

They've been told to sit down, shut up. The future is female. And so I don't think we have a right to be surprised that a lot of young men said, okay, I guess this is my place. Now, young men are starting to revolt against that. But what they really need is for men that are a little bit farther down the path, men, they're a little bit older,

that have lived a little bit of life, is to come in there and encourage them. And this idea that, no, you've been lied to. You're absolutely right. This sucks. But we need you to be strong. We need to be competent. we need to be capable. And it's not just in order to feed hedonistic pleasures. It's because

that's how civilizations are built, maintained, sustained, and handed off to future generations. And so what this book is is just, you know, I've been married for almost 27 years. I've been a father for 22 years. I've done some combat tours. I've served in an elected office. I've been a business owner. And as I was kind of looking back on things that I've learned, usually the hard way, I wanted to be able to share some of those experiences and examples because men do need to be capable. Yeah, and they're not happy. One of the things when I went through the book that I liked, by the way, is you get into everything, even how to drink whiskey. Yeah.

Yeah, well, again, there's a lot of things. Yeah, some of the chapters are a little bit more fun. Other chapters are a little bit more weighty. I get into faith and philosophy and arguing for things that you believe in. I talk about the difference between raising daughters and raising a son. I talk about what you should get for a home defense weapon. I teach you how to properly kick in a door because you just never know. You just never know.

But again, I stand by the idea that there's five kind of categories I talk about. I talk about the spiritual, the emotional, the intellectual, the intellectual, the physical, and the professional. And then each chapter kind of speaks to either one or more of those. those categories and why it's important for a man to be able to continually develop themselves into those areas. Caleb, I wanted you to ring in here. He was saying he was interested in hearing your opinion because he feels like Gen Z has really been the millennials too. It's not just Gen Z, but Gen Z feels particularly a drift in terms of finding the right figures to follow. You mentioned some of this backlashing and they have a tendency to go to the influencers. Go ahead, Caleb.

I think it's like because my generation, what I was telling Drew before the show is that my generation and older, we looked up to people like Arnold Schwarzenegger as masculine. But this up and coming generation, like my generation millennials and down, are looking at influencers like Clav online who are just getting, you know, surgeries and drugs and partying and all of this as their role model for masculinity. I don't think it's healthy, but who are they supposed to look at? because it seems like the male influencers in that age group are now super offensive and super political

or super racist or just super awful. And who are they supposed to look to? It's like Jordan Peterson is sick right now. Like that's someone that we need right now for the men of the world, Jordan Peterson's sick. So what are we supposed to do? And how do we, I guess, reduce the young male reliance on these influencers that are not good for them in the end?

And I really aren't teaching them masculinity at all. Yeah, I don't think you can call look. I don't think looks maxing falls very comfortably into the category of masculinity. But from a psychological standpoint, I get it. Because what it is, is that it's an objective set of criteria which nobody can ignore. Let me give a different example of this. When someone with Andrew Tate said, if you think he got problems, go get a six pack and then see how many problems you have. And he was talking about going and getting six pack abs.

Now, he was being kind of frivolous in that statement, and Andrew Tate and I believe very different things about masculinity. But the truth in there was, if you actually get a six-pack, that requires discipline. It requires effort. And you get something at the end of it, which is universally appreciated. I don't care how many feminists want to convince you that looks don't matter when they see a six-pack, they like it. The problem is that if all you're doing is telling young men either looks max or develop cases, so that you can sleep around a lot or you can have a nice car or have a nice house, that isn't going to answer the ultimate question they want. Because what we're all looking

for is identity. We're looking for meaning. We're looking for purpose. And you don't get that by purely pursuing hedonistic pleasures. There's nothing wrong with having a good time. But the question is, is what are you doing all this in service to? And the thing that I found is when I started orient in my life and like I have an obligation to honor God, I have an obligation. I have an obligation to be a good husband to my wife, a good father to my children. What I found was is that all the things that I was doing, all the responsibility, it wasn't my freedom that made me happy. I'm glad to have freedom. I certainly want freedom, but it was the responsibilities that I chose to take on. That's what gave me true identity, meaning, and purpose. And every day when I woke up and I didn't feel motivated,

discipline kicked in. Why? Because I owe it to my God. I owe it to my wife. I owe it to my children. And I talk a lot about in the book, too, because you got a lot of young men that said, okay, Nick, don't have a wife and kids. I want one, but I don't feel like I'm ever going to be able to define the sort of woman I would want to marry. We talk specifically about like, okay, how do you overcome that? Recognizing the problems. Because one of the beneficial things about Gen Z is that for six generations or six decades in this country, we've seen church attendance on the decline. And now it's leveled out. Why? Well, a lot of that's Charlie Kirk. Why did Charlie Kirk have credibility? Well, I would argue that he was very intelligent.

He was willing to go into dangerous places, obviously, in order to have conversations with people that disagreed with them. He honored and uplifted biblical masculinity. He honored uplifted marriage. He honored and uplifted fatherhood. And then he didn't just talk about these things. He actually went out there and he did something with his life that was admirable. And I think one of the things young men are looking for is they're tired of,

look, they're tired of purely the academic world telling them, them things. They're tired of purely Hollywood telling them things. They want to get advice from men that have the things that they want and they want to understand how they got them. And again, that's part of what they're, they have described, I've had young men describe it to me as a spiritual quest. They want spiritual guidance, uh, which is, that's a new way of framing it. That's a brand new request. Before it's how do I get a career? How do I get meaning? How do I make a family? Now it's like, give me some spiritual kindness, which is all of that, to be fair, but go ahead. Well, and I actually think that's very encouraging.

Like five years ago, when I would talk on college campuses, I would get asked questions about tax policy. Why? I was elected official at the time. Now half the time when I go, I'll get political questions, but I get a lot more questions about faith, about family, about masculinity. And what that tells me is this generation is asking the more fundamentally important questions. Because if you have a society with godly men and women, becoming godly husbands and wives, becoming godly mothers and fathers,

raising their kids to do the same, you're probably not going to have to worry about the politics of that country so much. But if you have a generation of young men that feel absolutely lost, well, one of two things is going to happen. They're either going to completely descend into nothing but playing video games and watching porn or whatever else it is and ruining their lives, or they develop capabilities to get back at the people that they think have betrayed them or have mistreated them. And the thing is, is we don't want a generation of young men who've decided to become either deadbeats or barbarians. We want young men that want to be noble.

We want them to be the sort of warriors, that we want them to be sort of the people, thinking people that build and maintain and preserve civilization. Nobility is an important word. It doesn't get used enough. You know, and then on top of all this now, we have the amount of weed that's being smoked

just just destroys them. When they feel already worthless, it just knocks them to their knees. And it's just, they can't, they don't even perceive. that they're not doing things at that point because they just can't get started. Weed is just, it's the cherry on top

for what you're talking about here. But, you know, it's ultimately, though, we have to begin to culturally value masculine traits, right? And I think women are, it's an interesting time. I mean, you said, you know, Andrew Tate said get a six-pack

and you won't have so many problems. But the reality is, yeah, women are more likely to respond to visual visually appealing people now that in the past, but they still, ultimately, they're very much attracted to nice, kind, competent, self-centered, self-preaq, self-efficient,

you know, self-efficacy. That's the stuff that women, they're looking at that, perhaps a couple, for most women, more than the appearance. And I don't think men know that. And thus, they're going for this looks maxing that really undermining that really undermines.

minds the things that could make them more attractive. Yeah, if all you're developing is the superficial, that might get you in the door. It probably doesn't get you where you actually want to be. You have to develop the character as well. You have to develop the character. Now, the thing that I will say is that a lot of young men are frustrated and they're saying, okay, Nick, fine, I'll develop this sort of character and these sort of capabilities when culture and society respect them again. And the problem with that thinking is it never works that way. You actually, you actually, you know, there's some truth to the idea that that hard men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create hard times. But the part where it breaks down is hard times create,

or the hard times create good men or hard men. And the important thing to remember is, no, people have to decide that. They have to choose to be that. Because ultimately, what I'm asking young men right now is to choose something. And I'm not asking them to choose that, choose it in the midst of it being properly rewarded. What I'm saying is the only way to get to the times that you want, the only way to get to the times that it will be properly rewarded is if you choose to do it despite the current conditions. Because I absolutely believe,

I absolutely believe that to your point, young women do want men of character. Women do ultimately want men of character. The reason why there's no shortage of leftist, feminist, progressive women on TikTok complaining about, why can't I find any masculine men? Well, because for 20 years, you've told them but they shouldn't be masculine,

but they still desire it, despite themselves, they still desire it. And so I'm calling men to be those sorts of men. Yeah. And the world is generally better when we are good people. You're asking men just to be true to themselves and be good, right? That's what you're really asking for. Follow your instincts, do the things that naturally are good about you.

That's what it seems like to me. Are you encountering controversy in these recommendations? No, not, not this. Well, you always receive the controversy or the contradiction from the places that you would expect it. If somebody has a worldview where I honestly believe that there's no substantive difference between men and women and that this is all some sort of social construct, well, then of course they're going to disagree with everything that's plain. But what I go back to is like, you can either believe, either for natural reasons, I believe for, you know, I believe this is the way God designed it.

But here's what I've noticed. When men and women, instead of trying to compete with one another, when men and women realize and accept and appreciate that we're actually meant to be cooperative with one another, that's where all of a sudden you get a much better and more conducive society. I'm not in competition with my wife. She makes me better. She's not in competition with me.

I make her better. Why? Because through marriage, I covered down on things that she couldn't do as well by herself. she covers down on things that I want to be able to do as well by myself. And then we have kids and that enters into a whole new adventure. So, you know, this is what I keep coming back to is that it's amazing how when you just accept that reality is a certain way for a certain reason.

And you embrace those various roles and responsibilities with the understanding that, you know, you're going to have some women that like to do more masculine things, some men that might have certain pursuits seem more feminine. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about abrasion ultimately at the heart of what is it to be a man. And ultimately to be a man, whenever somebody says, be a man, what that is always meant was that yours is the sort of person that can be trusted, your word is good, you will fulfill your obligations, and you will do so regardless of pain, regardless of discomfort.

You will carry through until you have kept your word and you have done the honorable thing. And that's what I want masculinity to mean. Well, honor itself is something that has been relatively undermined. You know, people's words don't matter. anymore. You know what I mean? I was talking to Dave Rubin this morning. He said, did you ever watch Downton Abbey? He goes, in that series, they're always talking about reputation and honor and maintaining these things and what it takes to maintain them and not doing anything that would undermine that. We have totally lost that, it seems to me. No, I think there's some

truth to that. And it's interesting, it's interesting how so much of this, too, goes back to Marx. When you look at Marx, when you look at the postmodernist, when you look at the deconstructionist, everything is about this idea that, okay, we're going to overthrow religion, we're going to overthrow traditional morality, we're going to overthrow the traditional family. You're supposed to be raised and educated collectively. And then with postmodernism, it's the idea there's no absolute truth, except, of course, for the fact that there is no absolute truth. With the deconstructionists, it was the idea that words don't have any objective meaning. And, and, and, Really what you get is a philosophy of meaninglessness.

You get a philosophy where there is no legacy to carry on. And again, the contrary to that is, okay, no, there is a God and he has some things to say about morality. And know a husband and wife coming together in the union of marriage is a good thing in the building block of society. And them raising kids together is a wonderful thing and essentially how we propagate the species. And the idea of being able to look back on your life and not just see the stuff you've collected, but the lives you've impact and what you've been able to build, that ends up becoming a legacy that you get to build, that you get to contribute to,

and that you get to pass on to other generations to do the same. That's civilization. Well, it's, yeah, it's meaning-making, and people don't understand the importance of that. And service, you know, there's other people, meaning-making. This is what we're here for, you know, and propagating the species, as you said. But I don't think that.

That's emphasize enough. Yeah. And I share one story on this. And I share it in the books. You know, when I was growing up, my grandfather, he had joined the Navy at 16 in World War II. He had been a logger. He had been a fire captain. Just a great guy.

And everybody loved him. Great sense of humor. Like quintessential grandpa. And I remember going over to his little home in Chico, California. And on this one little portion of the hallway, he had three. framed like little shadow boxes that he had made on his own little wood lave. There was maybe $15 worth of materials in each shadow box. Very, very, very simple. But one was of my great grandfather who had served in World War I and had been a highway patrolman and his badges. The other

was of my grandfather with his fire captain badges. The other was my dad who was LAPD. And I remember growing up a little boy and every time I went over there, I would look at that. And I would think one day, one day I'm going to have that. My picture is going to be on. that wall. And I remember when I got home military and it was there. And again, it was $15 worth of felt and wood framing and a couple of little metals and a picture. But to me, that signified that I was now a freightest man. And we need to be doing this for this generation. We need to be able to tell the stories of the people that came before us. We need to make sure that they know they're a part of something. For the young men that are growing up in families,

where they don't have a legacy, what we need to be telling them is, no, you do, it just starts with you. And because you're going to make different decisions than the ones that were made for you, the trajectory of your entire family line will change as a result of it. Because when you start giving something to fight for, not just tomorrow, but long term, all of a sudden the decision-making process alters significantly. You know, in addition to some of this body dysmorphia and lack of meaning, there seems to be a kind of a black pilling that's going on politically and young men particularly are you seeing that oh yeah absolutely well but i think it's intentional i mean if if you think about it from the standpoint and again without getting into too much into critical theory and and herbert marcus and everything else

if you look at what the effort has been over the last 20 years especially with relation to men it's been to demoralize them it's been to convince them that they need to play a diminished role within society and so well how do you do that well first of all you convince and that they don't have a place in the future and that they're responsible for all the ills of the past. So you don't give them any legacy to look up. Now, why do they keep demoralizing them? Is it because they don't have any power?

No, it's because they do. I was at Cal Berkeley. I was at Cal Berkeley looking at a room full of students and I said, I want you guys to all understand something. This woke progressive experiment loses. And the reason why it loses is because you have alienated the one group of people that you absolutely

need in order to foster civilization. Young men, they fight the wars, they police the streets, they fight the fires, they build the buildings. This is not to diminish from what women bring to civilization. It is equally important but different. But you are not going to have a vanguard of the revolution with a bunch of people that define themselves by their mental illnesses, by their victim status. And so you lose.

The only question is, is what direction men take? Because if young men decide to go in a very dangerous direction, if they decide to black pill, Or if they decide to get even, this gets really bad, really quick. If on the other hand, they decide to reject what you've been pushing on them and they actually adopt their God-given role within society, and they develop themselves to be spiritually sung, to be emotionally mature, to be intellectually rigorous, to be physically strong and capable, to be professionally capable.

If they do that and they do it in service, not just to their own in states, but they do it in service to family, to God, to country, you're going to live in a place that you like. But those are your only two options. Because the certain one doesn't work. You mentioned the progressivism. Clarence Thomas gave a lecture. I saw it today, or was on X.

I think he gave it today, where he chronicled the history of progressivism. And it came from Woodrow Wilson, who I think was one of the worst presidents we ever had. And he brought it over from Europe because he admired the Bismarck Germany, that the centralized, essentially totalitarian, Jacob, Jacob, Jacob, Jacobian, kind of a European model from the 20th century, which brought us all the horrors of the 20th century,

that was his idea of how we should progress to this sort of centralized authorities. And by the way, central in all of that is undermining the Declaration of Independence, right? And the rights of man is just something that, no, no, no, no, no. that's that's an old-fashioned notion that's being locked in a locked in a lochian world so to speak yeah no no i couldn't agree more i think when you when you look at where the problems really started again every country has problems um but in the 20th century there was no question that woodrow wilson and that era ushered in drastic changes to the way that americans thought about themselves and the relationship to the government when you've got the 16th amendment to the constitution the

17th Amendment, the Federal Reserve Act. Then you lead on to the New Deal, which was a massive expansion of the federal government into our daily lives. Same thing with the great society. We went from a country that looked at our federal government as having very small, very specific, and very enumerated powers, and that those powers were to create the sort of environment where individuals, families, communities could flourish because we recognize that in a nation as vast as ours with a population as vast as ours that people are going to have to make their own decisions, right? We couldn't have one collective or we couldn't have one centralized authority making decisions for everybody. And leave it to leave it to a Princeton professor to believe that, no, actually,

what should happen is a bunch of professors within a massive federal bureaucracy should be micromanaging our lives. And lo and behold, it doesn't work out. Right. Didn't COVID teach everybody what a panel of experts will do to you? You know, you follow the experts. Please. me a break. And the other thing that I was thinking about when you were talking about, you know, people's guilt for the past, I was thinking, I was watching Angela Davis on one of those, you know, who your ancestor shows. And she has ancestors that came over on the Mayflower and own slaves. I know that race. My, yeah, but then I thought to myself, my ancestors were peasants and serfs in Russia and Ukraine. And should I feel guilty or should she feel guilty?

You know what I mean? I mean, how do we do this? It's ridiculous. We need to get together and move forward. This looking back is really, yeah, some horrible things were done for sure. It wasn't my people. They weren't here. Angela, it was your people.

But, okay, let's, you know, who do we blame now? Come on now. So it's difficult. That's difficult to do that kind of thing. People adopt a collectivist mindset, in part because they think it gives them a kind of of moral authority where there's now collective guilt for the past and there's and now certain groups get to throw everybody else into oppressor or oppressor groups and now you kind of know your tribe and really if you think about it it's one of the most disempowering things you can do to yourself

in in order to make yourself guilty for things for which you never participated in and to convince yourself that there's no way to fix things that you could actually fix that you could actually improve because after all, you've got all this guilt that you're accountable for, or juxtapose if you're, if you're oppressed, well, then gosh, you can't improve your situation because all of the powers than be and all of the systems that are in place are designed to keep you down. And really, the only people that benefit from that sort of mindset is the political class, which manages it. Because now they're responsible for everything. They get to pick the bad guys, they get to pick the winners, they get to pick the losers. And nothing.

it be more contrary to the heart at what our country was supposed to be and representing the world. Nick, can you stay with me a few more minutes? I've got to take a little break here. Absolutely. Okay, follow Nick on X and Instagram. Nick J. Freitas, F-R-E-I-T-A-S, back right after this.

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So, Nick, it is. I think to get the Nick Freitas, of course, is with me. To get this done, we need buy in from women, right? We need women to agree that there's something, they're an essential ingredient

in inspiring men. And I feel like women also are tired. They're tired of trying to be all things. And they need to decide what they want to do and do it. I think it's great. that we live in a time when these options are open to them,

but to make them do things that are inconsistent with what they want or whatever it might be, they need to get honest and ask from men what they need. Yeah. No, I think it's absolutely true. As I was going around talking about this, it's amazing the number of young women that would line up and ask me questions about,

how do I find the sort of man I want to marry, or how do I be the sort of, you know, what do men need from women? And I said, that's an excellent question. I said if we kind of boil it down to its simplest level, right? It's a lot more complex than this, but at simplest level, women are generally looking for a man that is capable of protecting and providing. So what are men looking?

But Nick, I want to stop you, though, is that I agree with you, but I don't think that it can be that explicit anymore. Because that feels to women like they need to be protected kind of feeling, right? but even though that kind of thing is is motivating, how do we, it needs a marketing twist to it or something. Some way that we presented to it better. This goes back to what you just said, right?

Because again, the woman that was asking me this question, she goes, what do men want from women? And I said, if I had to sub up and two things, it's peace and passion. We don't want to deal with contentiousness all the time. We have to fight the world. I think kindness is something that they need to understand, too. too. And men don't even know they want that one. Yeah. Absolutely. They want kindness. The other thing

too is, and I'm doing this from experience. When I come home, my wife not only displays kindness toward me, but peace. Like I have this environment where I feel like I can, where I can rest and I can rejuvenate. But she also provides me passion. Obviously, there's a physical component to that, right? But it's more than that. It's the idea that I have someone that I'm fighting for, not just something. And we do want to, I tell women this all the time, it's not your obligation to make a man, a good man, but you will be shocked at how much influence you have over that process. But to put it in a form of marketing perspective for women, the way that I will talk about it is I had one young woman who was telling me that she had just got married. And I was making a point

to uplift marriage. I said, I love being married. Baring married's great. And I said, you know, I really love, I love protecting and providing. And she stops me and she goes, we don't subscribe to those traditional gender roles. I said, okay, fair enough. That's interesting to me, can I ask you a question? She said, sure. So let's say you and your fiancé are coming from a nice dinner. You're here in Washington, D.C. And as you're walking back to the car, somebody jumps out of an alleyway with a knife. Now, in one version of this scenario, your fiancé jumps in between you and your assailant. And in the other scenario, he jumps behind you. Which version are you more attracted to? And she kind of smiles and she goes, well, that's not fair. I said, no, you see, it is fair, but

Here's my question. It is perfectly reasonable. There's nothing wrong with you to admire the version of your fiancé that would stand in there and confront danger on your behalf. There's nothing wrong with that. And yet you feel like there should be. You feel like it shouldn't matter, but you know it does. Is it possible that it just does matter and it's okay?

And more and more, here's what you look at. When you look at women between the ages of 18 and 29 and the ones that have been diagnosed, not just on TikTok, but actually diagnosed with some sort of mental illness. Between 18 to 29 who identify as conservative, it's about 17%. 18 to 29 to identify as moderate, it's about 18 to 20%. 18 to 29 liberal, 52%. So let me get this straight at a time where the feminist narrative is more powerful than it has ever been throughout human history,

the people most defined by that title are the least happy. I think the other thing, too, is I don't think we need a, I don't think we need a marketing message that is so subtle that we miss the point. I think we just need to be honest with ourselves about what we really want. Because like you said before, women are tired. And so when I go to women, I'm not going to say, oh, you can have it all. It's perfect. I'm not going to say that. Nobody gets to have it all.

Everybody has to make decisions. Everybody has to prioritize. But if there's something you really want out of this life and what you really want is you do want to get married, you do want to have kids. And yes, you may have some professional ambitions, but you don't want to feel bad about having a masculine husband that protects and provides. You don't want to feel bad about that urge to be able to care for children. Great, then don't. If you want to rebel, rebel against that,

rebel against the narrative that is making you miserable. And it's not telling you that you can have it all. It's telling you that you should want something that you might not necessarily want. Simone de Beauvoir, who is one of the leading feminists in the 60s and 70s. but for all the people that think feminism is nothing more than equal rights before the law, which I have no problem with. Simone de Beauvoir said, no, no, that's not good enough. Women should not be allowed to choose to be wives and mothers because if they were allowed

to make that choice, too many of them would make it and it would interrupt the revolutionary responsibilities and obligations. So just understand, you've been sold something as one thing, but if you look at the underlying philosophy behind it, it becomes very clear that it was actually meant to be something else. And I don't think it's, I don't think it's wrong. Yeah, there's a theme generally developing and what you're saying is that if people are, you know, this is Shakespeare, to thine own self be true. But if they're not in tune with their motivational systems, what, you know, what, what their emotional needs are, what their goals are in life. I don't know how we get people, because it's not easy to tune up to, you know, those kinds of instincts when you've been, just been inundated.

with all this, what you're calling narratives. Well, can I, let me put it this way. If we look at how men and women have both been lied to, because obviously I'm talking a lot about masculinity here, but femininity is also a very important topic. So men have been lied to in one of two directions. One direction is the woke feminist progressive lie, which is men need to be weak and docile and submissive.

The other way they've been like to be. Or just that everything that is masculine is put into them by society. and these bad influences like you and whatever, they're going to make them that way. That's the most insane thing. The rebellion to that from the right is not the right term, but you could call it that is, no, no, no, that's a lie.

Men need to be strong and many need to be capable. Why? Because you're the ones that run the world and you should dominate. Okay, well, I go back to, again, I'm a Christian, so what does the Bible say? Well, no, it says you're supposed to be strong, you're supposed to be capable, but for a particular purpose. Now, let's look at femininity.

on one side, women have been told you need to be the super Uber girl boss, right? You don't need no man. You don't need no kids. If you do want to have kids, fine, freeze your eggs and we'll sell them to you at $25,000 a pop in your 40s, right? But right now you need to girl boss it up. That's one lie. The other lie is, no, what you need to be is a 1950s trad wife and a sundress making

sourdough bread. Now, I have no problem with sundressers or sourdough bread. But I go back to, okay, I'm a Christian. What does scripture say? When we read Proverbs 31, that is one of the most intimidating women you will ever read about in your life. Because if you look at her, yes, she's a wife and a mother, but she's incredibly entrepreneurial. She's very intelligent. She's sure of herself.

She builds up her house. She's called blessed by her family and her community because she is influential. So what I'm calling people to do is like, don't fall for the lie in either direction. There actually is a right path in this. And again, for me, I believe it's biblical, feminine. combined with biblical masculinity. It's the idea of, you know, I am serving something higher than myself.

And when I look at my family, that's a right here on earth physical manifestation of the things that I'm fighting for and I'm building, not just for myself, but for the people I love and for the people that will come after me. And I think when we talk more about that, people naturally gravitate to it. Not everybody.

But I've given up trying to please everybody a long time ago. Yeah, good. that's the impossible feat. But I'm thinking about the Old Testament too in your wisdom collected from the scriptures. I mean, there were some badass warriors and queens and things in the Old Testament as well. And there's room for all of it, I think, is the point.

But it has to be founded on truth. It just seems to me. And we are in a time where truth has been, fundamentally, you talked about the post-structuralist and the post-modernist and the, you know, and Chaucer and all those guys. But fundamentally, the project has been about marginalizing the truth. And the truth matters.

And you can look at it from a spiritual standpoint, from a scientific standpoint, ascending to some approximation of the truth is where good things happen. And we need to reinstate that, whether it's truth about to being thyself true or how the scientific endeavor is done or how we encourage people to be a certain way to make meaning of life, it has to be true. And we have completely sort of undermined that, it seems to me. No, I think you're right. One of the things, because again, I speak a lot on college campuses.

And there you'll hear the whole my truth, your truth. I'll be like there's, so the moment somebody tells me there's no such thing. I'm surprised you're able to get away with talking college campuses. They don't try to drum you out of there. They're willing to listen to you. They have. They have before. And they've been successful at times, but not at all times.

Usually the way they're successful is they don't let me come in the first place. because when I get there, oh, I'm going to speak. I'm going to speak. But whenever a student says something like, well, Nick, there is no truth. I'll look at him and be like, oh, is that true? Right. It's the first question. If somebody says, that's such thing as objective truth.

Is that a true state? And the other thing you realize very quickly is, yeah, it may be, it may sound like a nice concept to believe that everything is perception, but it really isn't. that that doesn't free you of any and freed from reality doesn't genuinely set you free in any sort of substantive way. What it does is it causes a great deal of fusion because now nothing

makes sense. That's right. That's right. Well Nick, I appreciate you being here. I appreciate it writing the book and I'm hoping Caleb and his cohorts listen carefully to what you've written here. Caleb, do you have any last questions before I let Nick go? No, that was really amazing.

I'm so shocked that I wasn't following you before now because a lot of the stuff you're saying, is exactly what I've been looking for and for my cousins and my brothers and for other people. I think there is a lack of guidance right now and that's why they fall to these influencers that are not giving them good advice.

That's like, looks maxing is not going to get you the happiness long term. Going after these temporary things. That's just body dysmorphia. I look at what these people are doing and I think about these guys and they're not happy

and they're making millions. And I'm over here. I'm not making millions. And I'm happy. I have a wife. I have two great kids. I have a job that I absolutely love to do. I get to work from home. And when I think about it, I'm, I'm much happier than these guys that are doing all of this stuff. And I don't understand why they can't see that. Happiness isn't measured by the money and the fame and the millions of followers. It's finding, it's this very basis of what I have is so much happy. than anything that these guys are experiencing. And I just wish that other guys would see that and they don't fall into these traps. Well, I'm going to let Nick go so I can drink my emasculating drink here. My, my, my, you didn't get these

when you were running special forces. You know, you're running at the Mujahideen. I'll tell you what helps if you don't use the straw. My dad told me that he was a homestinect. And he goes, Nick, you can't use the straw. And I said, why can't I use the straw? So masculate me, complete me, Nick. She's, her goal.

It's going to be as proof as possible. You're like, oh, yeah, I was chasing this terrorist down this road. Like, you can't do that. Like, give it. All right, Nick, thank you for being here. And we'll hopefully talk together in the future. You got it. Nick, free to us.

And we've, I'm going to be. I didn't get a straw for my drink and I can't drink it. Oh, you want my straw? No, no. You're finished it here. I'm supposed to not use a straw. is the whole point. It's all right.

I was in a hurry. I was trying to get back up here by the break. Okay, put up the upcoming guest. It's really good. It is really good. That's why I made Nick leave because I wanted to get to my drink. There we are. Del Big Tree, Saltie Cracker.

So Salty Cracker is going to be at noon, I think, on the 23rd. Oh, yes. Yeah, been confirmed. Okay. And I'm maybe missing some shows in there. We're thinking about Dr. Kelly Victory's seen in there for, with some of these guests or maybe we're talking about various people that could help help us out there so i've got a crazy schedule coming up but we appreciate you all being here today

so popular yeah crazy uh and we will uh Caleb anything else on your do we do we cover the yes and what i want to ask people to do is if you're watching on rumble or youtube go ahead and give this video a thumbs up because that helps us in the algorithms a lot and thanks for watching we've got millions of views on youtube and facebook the past two weeks so Thanks for watching and sharing all those. Facebook has been on fire lately. Be our friend. Tell everybody.

Share if you care. Yes. Appreciate everybody. Appreciate everybody. Appreciate all to be in. Let me look quickly at what you guys are talking about in the rants and things. Go ahead, Susan. The good thing about this drink is it doesn't have a lot of sugar in it.

I know it's sweet with the amazing. It's hard to make bone broth taste good. They have just nailed that at Paleo Valley. It's just such a good. Only 80 calories of sco. Which is crazy. It tastes like a milkshake. I know.

Well, the cream's got some calories in it, but it's sugar-free. Yeah. I put a little bit of whipped cream. But it's the fat most of you're getting from the creams. Okay, I'm looking at you guys. Hold on. I'm looking at the restream now. I'm sorry.

Yeah, maybe it's a different. Maybe it's time to, Caleb, I'm interested in how you responded to Nick, because, you know, it makes me think that reentering. Frenching in scriptures may be an important thing for some of this guidance for some young men that could be interesting. It doesn't have to be viable. There's scriptures are repositories of wisdom. That's really all they're attempting to be. Right, exactly.

You know, yeah. And, you know, I think it was Galileo said that the scriptures are designed to tell you how to get to heaven, not how the heavens go. In other words, it's more about living a good life. And so that's what they're all about. If you don't want to be just a church-going person, just read those books for the life advice that have guided some of the greatest leaders of our species. A lot of our founding fathers and people use these as guidance, even if they weren't churchgoers. But it's accumulated wisdom over thousands of years. So we are not that different.

more. Somebody's texting me. I think it's, think it's barge. What does she ask? What does she say? Oh, the Peleyla Valley has monk fruit in it. So Exile, the Knights of Malta now said real men don't have time for alcohol and they spent all their money on vitamins and supplements. Oh, no, that was they had a chance to mention the Jesuits there and didn't. Dang it. It's the person that mentions the Jesuits a hundred times every show. We see you. We see you there, Exile. Marcus really is a good source. You can read his thoughts and let that be a guide to you.

That's another place. What he's saying is another repository of wisdom. That's true. That's absolutely true. Okay. I'm going to wrap this up and I will see you guys. Where are we? Thursday.

We'll see you on Tuesday at 2 o'clock. Is that correct, everybody? Am I saying it right? I'm still correct. As usual. See you then. Unless a baby comes. Oh, yeah.

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