Ask Dr. Drew - Patricia Heaton: Hollywood Icon Was “Not A Trump Supporter” Now Says USA “On The Right Track”, Tells Why She Quit Alcohol & Founded Solubrae Wine – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 607

Episode Date: April 10, 2026

Emmy-winning actress Patricia Heaton said she was “not a Trump supporter” in 2020 — but by 2025, she’d changed her stance, saying “The world is a safer place today… Thank you President Trump.” Heaton, best known for Everybody Loves Raymond and The Middle, has been sober for over 7 years after a pivotal moment involving wine and her family led her to go alcohol-free. Now she’s helping others in sobriety with Solubrae, her new brand of alcohol-removed wine – while calming the masses from the media’s constant panic over Trump 2.0. “Stop saying people who voted differently from you are ‘uneducated’… Learn your f-ing lesson about smearing people who vote differently from you,” she posted after Trump’s election. Patricia Heaton joins Dr. Drew to discuss surviving Hollywood, her political evolution, and why she believes America is finally “on the right track” under Trump’s second administration. Eric Bolling breaks down the fallout from the leaked NYT airman rescue story and the looming Iran conflict. Investigative journalist Emerald Robinson discusses election integrity and the bizarre, terrifying trend of America’s top defense scientists vanishing without a trace. Patricia Heaton is an Emmy Award-winning actress and producer best known for her roles in Everybody Loves Raymond and The Middle. She is a bestselling author and recently launched the alcohol-free wine brand SOLUBRAE. Follow at https://x.com/PatriciaHeaton and learn more at https://solubrae.com/ – use code DRDREW20 for a discount! Eric Bolling is a TV personality, political commentator, and author. He hosts TheEDGE and is a former co-host of Fox News’ The Five. A former commodities trader at the New York Mercantile Exchange, he also served on the NYMEX Board of Directors. Follow at https://x.com/ericbolling Emerald Robinson is a political journalist and former White House correspondent for Newsmax and One America News Network. She hosts Absolute With E on FrankSpeech.com and publishes The Right Way political newsletter. Follow at https://x.com/emeraldrobinson 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 • STRONG CELL – If you want to feel more like your younger self, go to https://strongcell.com/ and use code DREW for 20% off. • AUGUSTA PRECIOUS METALS – Thousands of Americans are moving portions of their retirement into physical gold & silver. Learn more in this 3-minute report from our friends at Augusta Precious Metals: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/gold⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or text DREW to 35052 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/fatty15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/paleovalley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twc.health/drew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Executive Producers • Kaleb Nation - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • Susan Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/firstladyoflove⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Content Producer • Emily Barsh - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/emilytvproducer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Hosted By • Dr. Drew Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/drdrew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Patricia Heaton joins us today. You all know her from Everyone Loves Raymond. She is discussing surviving Hollywood. She's, of course, an Emmy Award-winning actress and producer and philanthropist. And she has recently launched an alcohol-free wine. We will talk about that and our enthusiasm for it. Then Eric Bowling comes in. He's a TV conservative commentator, author, host The Edge, and is a former co-host of Fox News, The Five.

Amongst the other thing, he was commodities traded at the New York Mercantile Exchange and served on the NYMEX board of directors. And then finally, Emerald Robinson joins us, political journalist, White House correspondent for Newsmax. We've got a lot to get into, including with Eric, the fallout from the New York Times Airmen

rescue story. And finally, with Emerald, election, integrity, and bizarre, terrifying trends of America's top defense scientists disappearing, all of that, and more after this. Our laws, as it pertain to substances,

are draconian and bizarre. The psychopaths start. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction. Fentanyl and heroin, ridiculous. I'm a doctor for, I say, where the hell you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals.

Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Lovelin all the time, educate adolescents, and to prevent, and to treat. Do you have trouble? You can't stop, and you want to help stop it. I can help. I got a lot to say. I got a lot more to say. You can follow Patricia Eaton on X, Patricia Heaton, H-E-A-T-O-N, also, salubray.com.

She's going to tell me more about that product, and if I'm pronouncing it correctly, it's S-O-S-O-L-U-B-R-A-E. And we have a promo code, I guess. Dr. Drew 20. We'll talk more about that. Let's see, her book, which is the one we want to promote, Caleb? Put it up there. There's food for family and friends.

There is Motherhood in Hollywood. There is your second act. the one we're going to be prone to your second act and she is here i guess we're part of the second act so patricia thank you for joining us thanks for having me dr drew i'm very excited to be here it's our privilege i want to bring things full circle and tell me if you can explain this for me our son uh went to vanderbilt from like like 2011 to 15 and we used to stay at the hotel at the bottom of the hill there i think it's called the litton susan is that what was called and i swear to god i was sitting across the, like, not even across the room, like across the table from you.

Were you going to Nashville back in those days, like 2012 for any particular reason? Yes, my son went to Belmont University, and I believe it was the Hutton Hotel. Hutton, that was it. That's what is it? Yeah, the Hutton. Yes. And yeah, so that probably was me. So that's wild. So I'm sitting, I'm thinking, I think that's Patricia Heaton there, but what are we all doing in Nashville,

at the same time, but it's the scholastic pursuits. The other thing I want to say before we start talking about Patricia's God bless Elon Musk. We are on Starlink today. We had a complete meltdown of our internet system. I suspect, I've got this sneaking suspicion we're under some kind of attack because we've never

had this bad of a breakdown, but we'll find out. Could be just our internet carrier. Be that as it may. Thank you for Starlink. We're a little glitchy because of that, so apologies for that. But off we go. So Patricia, first of all, did I get the pronunciation on the wine

correctly at least. Solubre. Salubre. Salubre. Like salubri. It's based on the word salubrious, which means health giving. And what we just changed the A

instead of S-A-L, it's S-O-L, because it's Spanish for Sun. And our drink is all about having a wonderful evening and feeling great the next day. And I've not heard you speak on this, and I'm not sure how much you want to talk about it, but what your personal motivation is for providing alcohol-free wine. We've got recovery.

Obviously, I worked in the field for many, many years. I've got recovering family members all over the place here who are very grateful for recovering wine. I think we're having this at my daughter's wedding. Is that because we're looking at because my daughter's very vocal about being in recovery, and she wants only alcohol-free wines at her wedding. Is that the case? Yes.

Okay. Is your mic on? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm in recovery. I also love non-alcohol wine. I'm a big fan now, so I've been taste testing everything. Okay, well, I think you're going to love this. We have gotten an enormously positive response to it.

And my story is, the backstory of salubri is it's, it'll be. be eight years in July since I put drinking. And I come from a background culture of drinking, Irish Catholic from the west side of Cleveland. I think anybody

whose football team is the Cleveland Browns develops a drinking problem, trying to be a supporter. But the thing I noticed, Dr. Drew, I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. But, you know, I'd worked in Hollywood for many years, 30 years of pretty nonstop work. And, you know, after those two main shows went away, I did a few other things, but I hadn't been working a regular job.

And my boys were all out of the house. And so the two main things that anchored me in life, being a mom and raising children and having a career, suddenly kind of weren't. there anymore. And so you sense this feeling of being unmoored, especially for women, especially as you get to a certain age and you're going through menopause. And you don't kind of know, like, what am I supposed to do day to day after working and being on the set at 545 every morning for nine years? and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and it's a uncomfortable feeling of kind of not knowing what your purpose in life is and who you are in life and so it's very easy instead of looking at those feelings and

thinking about them and dealing with them to just go to lunch with your friends and have perseco and then you finish that lunch and you fall asleep about three o'clock for a nap but then maybe you get up and you have some more wine with dinner with your husband. Like, it's easy to get into that. And I found that I was thinking about drinking a lot. Like, I would get up in the morning and think, gee, do I have a lunch I'm going to today where I could crack open for Sacco at 1130? You know, and as an actor, and this is one of the benefits of being an actor,

you're always looking not just at what the actor's line is, what the character's line is, but what's underneath. You're always looking for what's underneath it. Motivation. And so I started looking at my own thoughts, thinking, why am I thinking about drinking so much? And I attributed it a lot to this new phase of my life that I wasn't completely comfortable with.

And there was a spiritual component to this too for me, because I love alcohol. I love makers mark. I love makers mark for urbanal fashions. I love vodka and tonic. And I tried to not drink before. And I was not successful. Can I interrupt you real quick?

Can I interrupt you? The, to love a substance is already a sign of something. An unusual relationship with a substance. But most people that have that special, Most people that have that special relationship love their drug of choice. They love it. And that's the problem is that the brain then starts putting that the drive to pursue that thing you love ahead of everything else you love. And that's when it gets to be a problem.

Does that apply to shoes also? We should talk to Melda Marcos about that. I think if there is a shoe rehab, I'm going to send you. and Mrs. Finsky to the new Esenon or the new SA. Yes. Well, listen, there are people that have shopping addictions, I'm sure, you know, hoarders and things like that. But anyway.

Correct. For sure. For sure. Yeah. So the spiritual component is, and I'm Catholic and believer practicing Catholic. And I talk to God all the time. I have all my life. I grew up in a very Catholic household.

and so I'm hearing something else in my headset here. Hopefully not. Okay. So anyway, I'm just having this conversation with God. And I was saying to him, I think I want to quit drinking. And I think you want me to quit drinking. I will not be able to do it. And so you're going to have to do it.

but I am willing, but I'm not able. So the next day, my son had invited me to come to dinner at his house with his friends, and I brought my other sons. I have four sons. And I brought some wine, and we were drinking while we were making food, drinking while we were eating, drinking while we were cleaning up, and drinking while we were playing a board game. Now, this is over this span of life five hours.

And I felt fine because it was just to top it off. top it off, top it off throughout the evening, red wine. And I was trying to make a joke at this table full of all these young men and my sons. And I said, you know, in our family, it's a tradition. And I could not say the word tradition. And I tried three times to pronounce it, and I could not pronounce it. And I'm telling you, I was not slurring my words otherwise. There was nothing, I was fine.

But my son, and my youngest son at the end of the table goes, oh, that's really great, mom, you can't even talk. And I'm so horrified to have that little blip in the middle of this dinner with all my sons and their friends. But on top of that, I thought, I feel perfectly fine, but something is going on in my brain, even if I think I'm fine. The alcohol is doing something to my synapses. They're disrupting. And so the next day, I happen to be having breakfast with a friend who'd been sober for about 30 years. and I said to her, well, you're the first person I'm telling, this is the first day of me never drinking again.

And she was like, what? She's known me for a long time. She was like, what happened? And I told her, and she was like, oh, yeah, I've had those experiences. And so that was it. And it was just like, that was it. And I'm very grateful to God for presenting me with that really embarrassing opportunity to kind of wake me up to what was going on.

And, you know, it's, it's, I think I've had an occasional sip of Prosecco at a Christmas toast or something like that, but I don't drink anymore. Be careful. And because, well, no, it's just you start convincing yourself I could have it at Thanksgiving and Christmas. And then I can have Thanksgiving and Christmas and New Year's. And that's just how the thing works. But it always requires a moment of clarity and something outside of yourself to get it done.

I see Caleb is throwing the number up there. 8333, Dr. Drew, if anybody wants to talk about recovery or their experience with this, I will take them later in the show. And I understand you've had, you know, it's been tough for you also politically. You've sort of been very outspoken about topics that you're not allowed to talk about in Hollywood anymore for some reason. Well, you know, what I find interesting about having, I would say, you know, having the drinking taken away mercifully. It happened before the pandemic, thankfully, because so many people had drinking issues or increased their drinking during the pandemic. So I didn't have that issue.

But on top of that, I just feel like my mind and my body were being cleared. In order to do something else, which was creating an organization called October 7th Coalition, which I created with a friend after October 7th when I saw the Hamas body cam footage being gleefully and proudly posted online. And I assumed our whole country would rise up in rage and in support of Israel. And the exact opposite is what I saw. campuses exploded in support of Hamas, as did major cities. And I, since then, and this was not anywhere in my consciousness. I did not set out to be standing in front of Columbia University in 2024 with a megaphone saying,

release the hostages. I never imagined in my life, this is what I would be doing. And so I really believe that I wouldn't have been able to, to speak at all the places that I've been speaking at over the last two and a half years to be doing work in Israel, to be an advocate. I don't think I would have been able to be as effective if I had been drinking.

And so I feel like even the bigger picture of that is being able to be a non-Jewish voice for Jewish people for Israel and fighting anti-Semitism, which surprisingly you would think all Hollywood would be on the side of people who are pro-peace, who do everything they can to create peace, who always obey the ceasefires.

You think Hollywood would support that, but it's not always the case. It's odd. I mean, I understand it's complicated, but it's just so odd the certitude that people have asserted some of these positions. I kind of feel like I woke up this morning, very unhappy, very uncomfortable.

And I remember the words of Abraham Lincoln where he would just say, you know, it's God's purpose working out. And it's all big. Abraham Lincoln felt it was bigger than him. You know what I mean? Even the guy in charge was like, I'm just doing the best I can,

but there's something bigger than me being played out here. And even his second inaugural, he had, I'll pull the quote up later. And I thought, yeah, I am, you know, just somebody. out in the periphery here. And I feel like things are happening that are way outside of my control, so much so that I don't even feel justified having a strong opinion.

I can have feelings and some opinion, whatnot. But I don't know what's going on. It's too much for me. I believe in freedom of speech. I believe in nations protecting themselves. I believe in, you know, the difference between right and wrong. And, you know, let's go from there. Let's do the best we can.

Yes, I mean, I do too. I believe in all those things and that those values are the foundation of Western democracy. And so whoever supports Western democracy and freedom, that's who you side with. And whoever wants to tear down Western civilization and replace it with anything else, that's who we fight against. Isn't that weird that, as you mad, I did not expect at this day. age of my life, I would be, you know, hearing you say things like that, having words like freedom and courage and protect speech. And I just was, that was all taken for granted my entire life. And yet here we are now having to say and having to get serious about defending these things. Well, I believe that that you and I are probably the same age. And we grew up with those

foundational beliefs my father served in World War II. Most of our parents did, or we knew what the Germans did. We knew what the Holocaust was. It was just, it's facts, and they were accepted. And that has changed since Qatar has poured billions of dollars into our educational system. And, you know, from universities on down, there's been a very long plan that most normies who are going about their own business, having careers and families

and contributing to their community and being grateful for being in this country. All of us were just thinking, yeah, it's a great place and let's support it. We had no idea that there was billions of dollars going into our systems, our educational systems, and in our political systems, undermining all the things that we assumed

everybody took for granted. So now we have to have our eye back on the ball and realize that we have to fight for it. And Qatar is just, one contributor. There's the Chinese and then there's Russia. And then there's the laundering

of the NGOs kicking back to the federal. It's, I never imagine this. But Patricia, can you stay with me a couple more minutes? I think we're going to take a break and come back with a caller about sobriety, okay?

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If you go into even a bar, they'll have non-alcoholic beers and non-alcoholic wine, which are in non-alcoholic sort of champagne too, right, Susan? Yeah. That are all very good. Do you guys have a sparkling product? We're coming out with the sparkling. We started with just two varietals. They're both Pinotrigio-based.

We go up to Sonoma. We buy actual wine. We centrifically remove the alcohol molecules, and then we just adjust the tannins and the acidity. And the reason I created is I couldn't find one that I really liked. They either were like grapefruit juice or they were flat and tasteless. So this really has a nose. It has a mouth feel.

It's really wine just without the alcohol in it. And we've gotten an enormously pop up. positive response to them. Well, we are enthusiast, and like I said, we'll be serving it at a wedding. So there you go. I wonder if it's your first wedding or not, but we will happily do so. It will be the first wedding, yes.

We have a quick... All right, fair enough. Here's a quick call. Catherine has a question for us. This is about sobriety. Catherine, welcome. Thanks for the question. Hey, Dr. Drew. Hi, Frankie Heck. I can't believe I'm talking to Patricia Heathens and Dr. about politics. We are.

And nine months sober. And, you know, I live in a sober living home. I am staunch for, you know, Maga Republican. I was raised that way. I became an alcoholic and an addict because of past childhood sex abuse that I couldn't get over. And I self-medicated.

So I live in a sober living house. I'm 46 years old. I have a liberal arts degree. I know I'm a freak. But I have my back to hat that I got from Charlie Kirk. And I get called a racist and a fascist and this and that. And so, you know, I was being ostracized was the reason that I kind of got drunk. And now it's happening again.

And I just, it's, I, I. tune in to rumble to kind of be with my Kim folks because my family no longer talks to me. You'd think that I robbed and set them on fire. I don't know, but, you know, it's a lonely out here. And I'm just, I'm glad to hear that, you know, other people are clean and sober and are thriving. I'm trying to, but, you know, by any means necessary.

I found God. I will take, Catherine, let me just say, let me just say, let me just say, the fact that you're in sober living tells me how serious you are about your recovery. So congratulations. And I trust that it's going well. I don't know. I mean, obviously, maybe, you know, ask, the way the way the program goes, you know, ask your higher power for guidance on this stuff. Don't get all bent out of shape about it. It's not worth you losing your sobriety over.

You can still be close to people who disagree with you all the time. No problem. Just put that aside and learn the process of humility, which is really a key ingredient in recovery. Patricia, I wonder if you have something for Catherine. Yeah, I understand being a minority in a community, as far as your belief systems go. And I think if your focus of your life is a spiritual one

and you're called because of that to love other people, I think that's the main thing is even the people that are harassing you, you have to feel some kind of compassion for the fact that they harbor so much hatred. That's not a fun way to live. And so just in your heart, try to think of them compassionately. And that's helpful. That's always been helpful to me, I think. Yeah.

I would look at Catherine, Joe and Charlie tapes. There's these old timers talking about the steps. And when they talk about six and seven and ten and eleven, there's actually a stage that people get to in recovery where they start praying for their perpetrators. and praying for the people that upset them the most. That's how you know you're getting to a pretty, really good territory in your recovery. So we would, I think, suggest that. This is, I don't want to, this one has a name. You had a question about sobriety also?

Hey, Dr. Drew, such a huge fan. It's an honor. Thank you for everything you've said about conservative ship, meth addiction. And this is Alex in California. Alex. I would like to suggest, Dr. Drew, I would like to suggest that ideology is actually an addictive process. I mean, the woman mentioned Rumble. Oh, sure.

But could you, and I'm sorry, but Adam, Adam, the Ace Man has gone a bit. I mean, it's just, it's always angry. I mean, do you have any advice for the folks that seek solace and rumble and ideology left or right? How can we move beyond the sort of division? Great question. Yeah, boy, you are, you're putting, yeah, you're putting your finger right on the target. Go ahead, Patricia, you first. I mean, just, I was just saying, you know, we've seen, we see it now all around us where

people's ideology has become their, their religion, their raise on depth, or whether it's far right or far left. It's, as I said, it's a terrible place to live. It's terrible to live in all that anger and rage all the time. And it leads to despair, at least to despair, at least to. people making crazy decisions about their life, that they have to leave the country. I've seen people, it's just, it's almost seems like a form of temporary insanity.

And I think when you don't have a foundational moral or spiritual rock to stand on, things like ideologies can take the place of that. And then that becomes what you fashion your life after. and it's really not healthy. There's actually a syndrome called scrupulosity that people get where they're overly religious. And I see that happening with non-religious ideologies as though they're having scrupulosity around these political positions.

It's wild. And, you know, the answer is the stuff we've been talking about. First of all, humility, rational uncertainty. Don't be certain of anything. be skeptical of everything, be, you know, don't, you know, just be rationally uncertain. And if you really want to go the spiritual route, it's praying for the people that are the most angry and the most out of control. And, you know, and just, you know, just trying to do what Patricia said is, you know, make contact. Contact is the main thing.

And to the fact that we limit contact is only going to end to more and more and more trouble. Patricia, let's wrap it up. we appreciate you being here. I understand that they, I just got a word that you can get a discount at Salyubre with the code DR, D-R-D-R-W-20. Is that it, Susan? Yes.

That's right. Sule-U-B-R-A-E. Spell it out. S-O-L-U-B-R-A-E. For the podcast. And tell them what the different wines are there, Patricia. We have daylight,

which is our white, which is a pinobrigio-based, and our rosé is called sundown. And we'll become coming out with more varietal soon. Great. Patricia, it's, we've been fans of yours forever. Your, you know, your humanity comes through and you're acting.

And it's not an accident. They're not surprised to me that I would enjoy talking to you for the time we've spent together. Congratulations on your recovery and what your kids are doing. And hopefully you can do something again in the future. Thank you so much. Thanks for having me. I'm a fan also.

So thank you so much. Oh. Thanks, Patricia. God bless you. God bless you, too. All right. We are going to switch gears a little bit. And Eric Balling is coming here.

A television personality conservative political commentator has been here before. He hosts The Edge. He's a former co-host of the Five. He was a commodities trader. You can follow him on X. Eric with a C, bawling, B-O-L-L-I-N-G. Also, Eric Bowling, The Edge on X and Eric Bowling.

The book, he's got two, which is The Swamp and Wake Up America. Which one are we promoted? Let's see you. The Swamp. There it is. Eric, welcome back. Good to see you. Good to you, Doc.

Thanks for having me back. What a wild next couple hours it's going to be. So much going on. Yeah. I hope that's not what's behind you. I hope it's not a sign of things to come. But that's the logo, Doc. That's the edge logo, you know, coincidentally, I guess.

I mean, but wow, you know, it may, yeah, Trump says he's going to eliminate the Iranian civilization. Is it rhetoric? Is it positioning with the Iranian, with the IRGC, which is really running Iran right now? There's no way of knowing. There's no way of knowing what he's going to do. But I think there is a way. Eric, I think there is. And by the way, we have a little delay here because we're using, thank God for Elon Musk.

we're using Starlink right now. We had an internet crash today. But I think we do know because he is, I've heard stories about how he negotiates in the past. Like, I heard a story out of it's apocryphal or not where he essentially had a loan coming due on a building and he'd on a yacht, on a yacht. It was a huge yacht.

It was millions of dollars on this loan. And he was like, I want to refinance this thing. And he goes, they wouldn't refinance. He goes, wouldn't it be a shame if this yacht were out. out in the middle of the ocean, it suddenly blew up. Wouldn't that be tough for the collateral you're counting on? That's the kind of thing he's always done. And this feels like that again.

It scares the shit out of me. I don't like it. It's hard to live through. But I do think it's understandable, given how he's always done. They go to the mat on everything. Well, yes, he does. He tends to go to the mat. But doctors have been thing out for the last year.

They call it the taco, the taco trade. and it stands for Trump always chickens out, T-A-C-O. And for the better part of a year, people are expecting him to make a statement and then backtrack on the statement. And he has, you know, he moved that timeline for 45 days. And then he moved in 10 more days and had 11 days because he didn't want to bomb around on Monday after Easter. And they're considering Bose tacos.

But then when he puts that solid that line in the sand, 8 p.m. Eastern tonight, we're going to bomb the living daylights, that bombed them back into the Stone Ages, he really kind of painted himself into the corner. I better do this because if I back out of that, he's going to take some heat here at home. So I think,

I honestly think he's planning on doing this at 8 p.m. Eastern. He says he'll be done by midnight and we'll take the U.S. military will take out all the bridges. We'll take out the water desalalization plants. Four hours. Take out the power plants. Four hours. He says is going to have done. Crazy.

And so, Doc, about an hour ago, the Pakistan negotiator came out and said, hey, Trump, there's a, we're looking for a two-week pause. And I think unless he's going to come back with the some sort of deal or negotiation with the IRGC, the Iranian National Guard, the ones that were really pulling the strings in Iran right now, I don't think a Pakistani negotiator dealmaker is going to do the trick for him. he's going to need some more solid information coming from the Iranians ready and willing to kind of deal with him. And it's got to be a deal. He's already said one of the things that has to be is opening the straight of Ramos for the oil price globally to ease. And I will tell you, for the last two or three weeks or so, the oil market has shrugged off all these rhetoric shots across the bow back and forth and has consistently gone up until today. And I will tell you about three, 30 Eastern time today, it dropped like a rock, $5 a barrel, boom, and that was when that Pakistani thing.

So maybe there's more teeth for the Pakistan, not just some negotiator. Maybe it is the IRGC ready to go. But listen, all eyes on the wire services and X, really X, it's really the fastest place to find your news at 8 p.m. Eastern to see if bombs are flying. And then talk to me about this New York Times article where the second airman was the rescue of a second Airmen was sort of disclosed. Isn't that sort of a treasonous act, or at least it's certainly endangering our military? Yeah, I would say, and I'm no fan of New York Times, I'm conservative through and through, Maggie Conservatives, it has nothing to do with that. When they leaked the information that the CIA had a deceptive campaign going on, all they were trying to do,

the U.S. military and the CIA, in conjunction, we're trying to save it. and rescue U.S. military personnel. The idea that they leaked that information and it benefited the Iranians. And frankly, the Iranians realized that they weren't going to look for a second pilot. He was rescued or being rescued. Yeah, I would call that treason.

And the reporter has already said he's not going to reveal his source. Well, let's see if he wants to rather spend 20 years in prison. I mean, the penalty for treason can be death. It can be if you're convicted of. of high treason. And that may be just high treason. So maybe we'll find out why he did that.

It's a horrendous thing to do in a wartime. Yeah. Yeah, it's a horrible thing. And I, again, I have these always mixed feelings where I'm like, free speech, free speech. But for God's sakes, wait a couple hours so somebody's not killed by it. I mean, there are limits of free speech. The classic thing, people always bring up yelling fire at a crowded theater or something. But this is in that same zone where there's,

There is no benefit to the, your free speech is not being substantively curtailed by saying, hey, would you mind, it's prudent. It's prudential. Why not wait a couple of hours until they can get this guy out? Then go ahead, have at it at that point or even soon, but not when they're in the middle of it. Yeah, Doc, I spent 12 years at Fox. And we've had breaking news. Sometimes it was not even, clearly not even to the level of locating.

the U.S. military personnel who are being searched out by a foreign government that wants to kill them. We had breaking news. And, you know, you'd work with the other, even along with Fox being conservative, you would work with the Obama administration. And they pulled off because there are some sensitivities. And it's just common decency, especially with an American in harm's way behind enemy lines, being stalked by a foreign government that wants to kill them. that was really, really bad, not only by the reporter, but frankly, by the New York Times. Yeah.

So when Trump tweets like this morning, now it was interesting. When I saw the headline of the tweet about ending civilization and stuff, I became depressed. I was like, ugh. I have the same reaction like, oh, you have to do that. But then I read the rest, the body of the tweet that, of course, nobody printed in the press. And I was like, oh, he doesn't, there's an argument here. He's sort of making a case that he doesn't want to do these things. And as usual, that doesn't get promoted actively the way the headline does.

Is he, does he know what he's doing when he does this stuff? Does he not care? Is this part of the strategy? I think it's the way he does business. You mentioned the yacht story from way back when he's got to show he means business. And a lot of people thought he wouldn't bomb Iran last summer and then bomb Iran again. They thought this was going to be another taco trade where Trump always chickens out. And then he didn't.

And I think he keeps people on their toes. You can't really put, you can't really kind of put a light on Trump because he could go this way. He could go that way. He's unpredictable. And I think that's the best negotiating position. But because he's willing to do, like he ran as I don't want to be involved in foreign wars. I've seen you know he's bombing the daylights out of the Iranians. So you don't know where he's going to go.

And I think that is his advantage going into these negotiations with the last, what is it, last two and a half hour, three hours, less than three hours until bombs start flying. If he doesn't get some serious input from the IRGC or someone really, really of higher power, I think it's Kodan. I really do think. And let me tell you, I'm a libertarian. I hate war. I hate the idea of doing this.

It doesn't make any sense to me. However, I feel that this has been put off so many times. It's almost the point where I believe it's the point where you're going to do it, just do it and let's start healing real fast. So I'll tell you, there will be people who, a lot of people who die in Iran. And also our markets are, they're roiling. They're up. They're down.

They're getting smashed. Gasolines, $4.14 a gallon's up almost a dollar since this thing started. And our markets are just gyrating. No one knows what the hell to do. we need to either do this or don't do it. So I would say that my advice to Trump will be either call it off or just go and do what you're going to do. And let's start working through what that means on the backside of it.

And the fraud and abuse story, I'm wondering if you have thoughts about how that's all going to go down. It's just so shocking to me that we have people in the federal government, in particular. I understand the states and the counties are rapacious, let's face it. but the government, it's like, or even the New York Governor Hockel, it's like, just give us more money. We need more money for these social programs in the face of all this fraud and abuse and

kickbacking and laundering. Why don't they at least say, hey, let us get that under control first so you can trust that we're going to actually use your money to do these programs we'd like to do before they start asking for more money. It's kind of shocking to me. Yeah. Zora Mandani is faced with a $12 billion. budget deficit. He wants to give away free health care. Now he wants to give away free health care in New York

for illegals. Meanwhile, he's he's raising, he's proposing raising taxes on a city and a state that already has of the highest tax. Maybe California is the only one that's higher than New York and certain parts of California, cities, municipalities. So his answer to this literal fleeing, you know, I hate to use this word, but he did. He literally used this word today. He called it an exodus. Now, think about the the metaphor there, Drew, right? The Exodus was a lot of New York Jews who are leaving New York because of what Zora and Mamdani is doing. He's calling it an exodus of his tax base.

But his answer to that is give away more free stuff. He's talking about racial equality as part of his new policy, his new what he's going to bring to the city of New York. Racial equality funding. They're already losing their tax base. They're already in a budget deficit. They're going to spin out of your... I spent 20 years.

years in New York. It was a hellhole then. It's become even worse of a hellhole. I mean, the picture behind me would treat me better than New York at this point. I don't know what he's up to. He's a socialist. He calls himself a Democrat socialist. It's really, it's, it's borderline communism. And for some reason, the people of New York elected someone who is pro-Islam, who has to be by default anti-Israel, which is insane in New York. And he's going to run the tax base and the people out, not just the businesses, but the people out as well. I'm not sure what the game plan is. And hopefully it's not more nefarious than just he's a socialist.

Hopefully it's not some sort of Islam link to whatever his positions are that he, you know, hat tips back to the leaders of the fanatical Islamic world. Where should we find the edge and when? you find the edge on YouTube on YouTube every Thursday morning Thursday we'll drop another episode and we got to get that man right there on the screen Dr. Drew on there because he is the epitome if we talk about male performance male perseverance people who've made it have adversity and then made it again what's that what's that secret sauce to getting back up after you've been knocked down true I think you are a perfect person personality for the edge guest I'll I'll be happy to be there and just summarize it as how can you how can be dumb enough to keep getting up and keep getting knocked down, keep asking for trouble.

But here I am still. And the swamp, did you summarize some of this stuff that's coming to light with all the incredible corruption and laundering of money? That's what it is. A swamp literally goes through years and decades really of corruption. I don't know if you know this, but the U.S. Capitol, the whole structure was built on, a literal swamp. And what a perfect metaphor for what's been going on over the years,

250 years of swamp. Yeah, they thought Enfant and Washington were nuts for trying to put it. And they had a malaria problem too. So not only was there a swamp, but they had mosquitoes and people got sick all summer long. All right, listen, Eric,

I appreciate you being here again and let me know what I can come on with you. Love it. Love it, Drew, anytime. Good to talk to you, my friend. All right. Talk to you soon. All right. Follow Eric on X Eric Balling, B-O-L-L-I-N-G.

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So there you are. Thank you for being here. Good to see you. Thanks for having me again, Dr. Turf. Why do you believe American scientists and I believe Canadian scientists too are disappearing. And not just American Canadian, but also Chinese scientists disappearing. In very

unusual circumstances. Some are dying. Some are just taking hikes and not coming back. I believe, and I want to point people to my substack, Emerald.tv, the NatSex section. This was actually discovered

by our NACC guy on my substack, Brandon Weikert, who brought to our attention. A lot of people are talking about the now, or some people at least, the disappearing and dying scientists here. These are top-tier military scientists, okay? These are people who are working on the next generation warfare, exotic technology like plasma tech, developing hypersonic weapons, superalloys that will withstand super high temperatures. Okay, these are the best minds in defense science. and development.

A lot of people have noticed they were disappearing here in the United States and dying, but Brandon pointed out in this substack piece that so are some of China's top-tier military scientists who are dealing with the very same technology, right? The race for hypersonic weaponry, plasma technology. In fact, a Chinese outlet actually reported that in March, okay, in March, three major military scientists were removed from the Chinese Academy of Engineering's website. No explanation for why they were removed. They were just disappeared. And now, that's not super unusual in China, right? And she is doing a purge. But it doesn't explain why their plasma,

their leading plasma aerodynamics expert, Jan Hong died suddenly at just 56 years old, a few days after the three scientists were removed from the Academy's website. So what we believe we're looking at here, Drew, is actually an arms race, okay? A tit for tat with the United States and what is really the critical assets, right? We're not just talking about missiles. We're talking about human minds.

And the people involved with developing the next generation in warfare. And we believe that the timing of events, the fact that it started happening here in the United States last June, and then this March, you see the Chinese scientists starting to disappear or die, that this is a tit-for-tat arms race.

True. In other words, rather than waiting to have to develop the arms to respond to your enemy's production, why not just do it the people that know how to create the arms? Or let's put it this way. Somebody, one side thought about doing that and did it, and then the other side responded in kind. We just don't know who started this, right? Well, if you look at the timeline, you don't know for sure. but the U.S. scientists started disappearing in June of last year, June of 2025.

And they're all, well, seven of the nine that have disappeared thus far tied to the Air Force Research Laboratory. It didn't get a lot of attention until in February, when retired Major General William Neal McCaslin disappeared, he had a little bit of a higher profile. He'd been a leader at the research laboratory. He'd handled billions of dollars, oversaw research, with very classified material.

So he knew exactly what was going on with this weapons development. He was the guy, right? And he led it until recently. He also oversaw projects at a major base in Ohio that is also tied to this story because three of their people disappeared

and died or killed in a murder-suicide recently. So some have been, like I said, disappeared and some have died in circumstances. There have been two murder-suicide situations with disappearing and dying scientists. So when he disappeared, he went off for a hike and never came back. That got of a lot of attention because he was a name that was in the WikiLeaks files with Hillary Clinton. He had a meeting with Hillary Clinton's campaign and Lockheed Martin and Skunkworks.

He's also well known in the UFO research community. So you know how big that community is and how involved they are on social media. So his disappearance was noticed, particularly amongst that community, and it started getting some traction. And then people started looking back at reports of other scientists disappearing, like a lady in Southern California tied to JPL who had actually been a former colleague of General McCaslin. She was working with classic technology. That's the bizarre one for me. Unless it was a mountain lion attack, that was the bizarre one. Because apparently she had lagged behind a group.

She was actually a group of hikers in areas that people hike in all the time out here in the San Gabriel's. And they kind of looked away. She was like 30 yards back, I guess, the way I understood the report. And they looked away for a minute and then to look back. And she was vanished like there and then not there. Like that was like highly suspicious. And nothing left behind of her. I think they said they found her chapstick and she's not turned up.

But it's the same with McCaslin. He hasn't turned up. he just seemed to have banished in thin air. He did take a wallet and a gun that he had, or he has that is missing as well. So there is some speculation, and what we kind of think is possible, considering his body hasn't been found,

is that he took note that many of his colleagues were disappearing and perhaps he went ahead and went into hiding. Now, that's just a possibility we think, because when you started back in June of last year, the lady you're talking about, her name is Monica Reza. And I'm sure you saw that because it happened not too far from you.

She disappeared last June, along with another lady in New Mexico whose phones were white. Her name was Melissa Cassius, and she had a tie actually to McAthelan as well. So that's at least two direct ties to General McCaslin. And so perhaps he just noticed

that these people around him are disappearing and he decided to take preemptive action and just disappear himself. His wife says she doesn't even know where he is. They put out a silver alert for him because he's 68 years old, which I still think is relatively young, but suggesting maybe he just had a senior moment and walked off. Are aliens real? Is your mic on? Did you hear that?

Yeah. I did. Well, that would be the other. That would be the other option. Somebody's being up to a spaceship, I guess. I asked Brandon that. I said, is this a case that they're being disappeared by aliens? But, I mean, we don't think.

So if you look at the timeline and how it's happening, it feels like that we're now in what you could say is a kind of war where the talent is the target. Scientists, you know, as Brandon describes, it doesn't, they're not just assets. their critical strategic domain. And China's went for our scientists in the past and more of the way of bribery and coercion, right?

Their thousand talents program. There was the case of the Harvard scientist who Lieberman, who was found to have been working with China and had been taking money from China. But this is kind of like the next step in this, right, where they might actually be offing our scientists. and the timing is interesting. Some people say, well, why now?

You know, what has happened, you know, that this would up the ante and that you'd actually get perhaps two countries taking out each other's top-tier military scientists? Well, we did strike Iran and it really is in some ways a Baghdor proxy war with China. So I think the timing of this, this happening since June of 2025,

is noteworthy. you know the UFO community they they go a certain direction and i even believe the bob lazar story you know the guy this physicist that allegedly was studying a new kind of cesium that had no gravity and all this stuff uh to me that was another military operation because they they must always be looking at trying to figure out how the enemy is going to attempt to deconstruct our technologies right and so So if this was literally the most important finding in the physical universe and the history of mankind, they're going to hand it to Bob. You're going to get some guy off the street of Las Vegas and give it to Bob Lazar, just Bob and some other guy, and then just watch them with the most important physics finding in the history of humanity. On the other hand, if they want to know how a lesser physicist is going to deconstruct something fantastically complex, I would pull Bob off the street and then watch him try to deconstruct something difficult.

and see how he does it, and then I would assume, if I'm going to hide that technology, that the enemy would do something similar. That, to me, it makes sense in the Bob Lazar story, but not that he was sitting in alien instruments, whatever. Anyway, that's my little theory about it. Let's switch gears entirely and go to the midterms, and how do we come to trust our electoral system? How do we come to trust our electoral processes that we have to go to paper ballots? and we're running out of time to do that. Get rid of the machines. I know President Trump, he did sign the recent executive order

as it relates to mail-in ballots, and that's a great step. It's a great step. But it's nowhere near enough. And I would just point you to what's already happening in the primaries in your state of California. There's been lots of questions already about, you know, excess votes as to voters in Riverside County.

And then in Texas, it's just been a mess. 50,000. 50,000, but the Attorney General is preventing them, preventing them from counting. That's the Attorney General of the state of California. That's a genius. And that's a real telltale sign. If they don't want you to look at it, as we've seen in Georgia, because we've really seen this play out in a greater way in Georgia, right?

Because the citizens there have just been dogged about it. They've been fantastic. I am just impressed with the Georgia people because they just wouldn't let it go. and their leadership, their state leadership, both Republican and Democrat, right? Both Ryan Kemp and Raffinsberger

and then the Democrat officials in Fulton County, all of them told the people were not looking into it. You know, there's nothing to see here, nothing to see here. But when you actually get to looking into it, massive problems,

whether it's duplicate ballots, votes that have no record, no tabulator tape, no, no accounting for them whatsoever. Ballots that don't look like their official ballots on official paper. I think that if you've got to look at it that closely in California, you'd find the very same scenario. And that's what your attorney general knows.

For sure. For sure. Texas is the same way. It's supposedly a red state, right? But you have all kinds of, all kinds of problems down there. Doc Chambers, Doc Pete Chambers, who ran for governor. He has documented it very well. And it wasn't just, look, it's not just Republicans or Democrats.

There was excess votes in the Republican primary and the Democrat primary. Now there was tens of thousands of more in the Republican primary as opposed to the Democrat primary, but that's just at the initial look, right? And here's what it boils down to. you don't have a lot of motivation on the part of Republicans to clean this up. You know, they'll pay lip service to it and how they don't like ballot harvesting and they don't like melon ballots. When you talk about the machines, they get very squirrely, Dr. Drew.

And I think it boils down to the primaries because look what's happening in the Republican primaries. And I thought, I've seen this in Georgia in the past. I've seen it in other states in the past. But I think because Dog Chambers was playing such close attention. and his team did such a good job of documenting it. Texas provided the best example that I've seen so far of what I've been saying. I think a lot of it comes down to control for both of the parties, right? They want to keep populist candidates out of both parties,

and they want to keep those primary candidates to go into the general that either party can control. So I think that's why you don't see a lot of motivation on the Republican side either. They like to say. Yeah, what's your idea? Citizens that are the right-leaning citizens that are interested in the truth and restoring faith in this system. Need to get together with Jasmine Crockett and let her bring in her point of view as well in Texas because she said the same thing. And so she can be very effective.

And we welcome her. And you know, Mike Lendell, who's running for governor of Minnesota, he's pointing this out with Amy Clobber. who is now running, you know, that Tim Walts had to step out in the face of all this fraud that's being exposed in the state of Minnesota. Amy Klobuchar is just as tied to it. So this is not like this is a better scenario for her, for her either. She's vulnerable on that point. But in the past, remember, she was one of those after Donald Trump got elected in 2016, pointing to, you know, Russian interference and saying that the machines are vulnerable. They're hackable. She talked about it, you know, on her committee. She was very vocal about it until. 2020 and she doesn't have a lot to say about it anymore. And Mike Lundell is, you know, extending the offer, extending his hand to say, let's work together on this. I agree with the statements that you've made in the past. And I'm willing for us to work on this together so we can have a fair election in the great state, once great state of Minnesota. But look, I think ultimately this comes down to Donald Trump. I think that he has to, there's enough evidence out there. He has to be stronger.

about the push for paper ballots. I keep hearing. I'm constantly called and told this is coming from people inside the White House, inside of DHS. You know, I hear that information is going to be released almost every week from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. And here we are in April, six months away from the general.

And not a lot has happened. Not enough. A lot has happened, I guess, but not enough. And I at this point do not feel confident about the November elections. And perhaps, you know, Republicans understand how unfavorable they are.

And they feel like, you know, if even if they have a fair election, they're not going to fare very well because, you know, I know there's some rig polling out there now for both sides. You see it just be, you know, Democrats plus like seven or to 11.

But that's not the case. You have rig polling now on the Republican side as well. And I think the Republicans, even in a perfectly fair election faced an uphill battle in November. Personally. I mean, it's always runs that way the midterm elections for a presidency.

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No, Newsmax pulled me off there, and in my contract when I criticized the coach. COVID vaccine because according to the blaze and a full year request that they did, they had gotten quite a bit of money from Biden's HHS to promote the vaccine. Perfect. Well, that would make sense, right? That's at least what we're hearing about news agencies, that they are captured in many interesting ways. Well, that's so like everyone else, you go out and go to the audience directly, create

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You know you've been in this world. Sure. Because you know exactly how it works. So it was quite the scandal in D.C., even the Hollywood reporter picked it up. Oh, nice. Yeah, I went and changed it. I was, you know, the last time I was on your show,

I was prepared for the COVID, fallout, the push for their mandates, because I had decided not to vaccinate my children, and I'd already been through all that prior to COVID. So it wasn't a hard decision for me to make to speak out about the COVID jobs. Smart lady. Yeah, that's, you know, I think,

one of the accountings that needs to happen around COVID is who got what right. You know, let's take a, let's do a little accounting. And the media got everything wrong. The mainstream media. I'd love to challenge one thing they got right. Love to see that. I'm sure they got a couple things right, but it seems like everything they got wrong. And they got it right after they got it wrong and they were forced to admit it.

And I can tell you, because I was sitting. in that room with these people. I was in the White House Press Corps during the time. I would hear them talk. They knew what I knew on was reporting, but they wouldn't report it. And they acted like I was reporting the false information. And even Vanity Fair did this hit piece on me. And then later, this was related to the COVID origins, right? Obviously, the natural origin theory made no sense. It was obviously false on its face. You didn't have to have a science. agreed to know that. But they didn't

fair to this hit piece on me for asking about that and the COVID briefings and reporting on it. But then later they had admit that I was right, but they called me a spirit theorist and slammed me for being right. So, but now we know if we were paid to do that.

They got, they got not only a pharmaceutical ad money. They got money from the government. Yeah, of course. It was propaganda. Are you there the day We're glitching here. There we are. One of my favorite press conferences, we're on Starlink right now, Emerald,

and I think we are... It's been working great. It's been working beautifully. And God bless Elon Musk for you. Yes. So, with that in mind, Emerald, I'm going to say goodbye before this thing crashes. We really appreciate you being here.

And thanks so much for everything you're doing. Likewise. Thanks for having me, Dr. Drew. It's good to see you. Cheers. And, M. Caleb.

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You can do it. I'm back. No, no. Go ahead because I'm afraid of what's going to happen here. You can see the schedule for yourself. Lots of great guests. Del Bigtree, Saltie Cracker, Dr. Victory.

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