Ask Dr. Drew - Pfizer President: mRNA Vaccine NOT Tested To Stop Transmission. Fact Checking PfizerGate + Calls – Ask Dr. Drew – Episode 136

Episode Date: October 17, 2022

“Pandemic of the unvaccinated,” they said. “Your unvaccinated kids will bring home the virus and kill grandma,” they said. “Was the Pfizer Covid vaccine tested on stopping the transmission of the virus before it entered the market?” asked Rob Roos, a Dutch MEP, on Oct 12, 2022. “No,” responded Janine Small, Pfizer’s president of international developed markets. “We had to really move at the speed of science to really understand what is taking place in the market,” Small continued. “And from that point of view, we had to do everything at risk.” Will Pfizer be suspended and deplatformed for misinformation? Dr. Drew is answering your calls LIVE on any topic: politics, censorship, health, vaccines, relationships, and anything you’d like to discuss. 「 SPONSORED BY 」 • BIRCH GOLD - Don’t let your savings lose value. You can own physical gold and silver in a tax-sheltered retirement account, and Birch Gold will help you do it. Claim your free, no obligation info kit from Birch Gold at https://birchgold.com/drew • GENUCEL - Using a proprietary base formulated by a pharmacist, Genucel has created skincare that can dramatically improve the appearance of facial redness and under-eye puffiness. Genucel uses clinical levels of botanical extracts in their cruelty-free, natural, made-in-the-USA line of products. Get 10% off with promo code DREW at https://genucel.com/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 The CDC states that COVID-19 vaccines are safe, effective, and reduce your risk of severe illness. Hundreds of millions of people have received a COVID-19 vaccine, and serious adverse reactions are uncommon. Dr. Drew is a board-certified physician and Dr. Kelly Victory is a board-certified emergency specialist. Portions of this program will examine countervailing views on important medical issues. You should always consult your personal physician before making any decisions about your health.  「 ABOUT the SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. 「 GEAR PROVIDED BY 」 • BLUE MICS - Find your best sound at https://drdrew.com/blue • ELGATO - See how Elgato's lights transformed Dr. Drew's set: https://drdrew.com/sponsors/elgato/ 「 ABOUT DR. DREW 」 For over 30 years, Dr. Drew has answered questions and offered guidance to millions through popular shows like Celebrity Rehab (VH1), Dr. Drew On Call (HLN), Teen Mom OG (MTV), and the iconic radio show Loveline. Now, Dr. Drew is opening his phone lines to the world by streaming LIVE from his home studio. Watch all of Dr. Drew's latest shows at https://drdrew.tv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I think he's Dutch, EU parliamentarian. Interesting. We'll look at that. We'll look at Bill Gates changing his tune and we will take your calls. You just head over on Twitter spaces and remember that if you raise your hand to be called upon there,

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A psychopath started this. He was an alcoholic. Because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction, fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous. I'm a doctor for f***ing sake. Where the hell do you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people.

I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals. Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Loveline all the time. Educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat. If you have trouble, you can't stop and you want help stopping, I i can help i got a lot to say i got a lot more to say hey everyone of course i'm watching your comments over on restream and as well at the rumble rant and somebody caleb on the restream is saying they're having sound problems.

I don't know if that's true or not. Nobody else seems to be saying that. So everyone just check your sound. Tell me if you're hearing me okay. Then we can sort of get on with things. So as I said, I want to go over a few things that are flying around Twitter. I look like I've been wearing a headset all day talking to Mr. Corolla. And that just messed me up.

Also, be sure to check out the Dr. Drew podcast. My interview with Michael Malice is up now, and that's kind of interesting, I think, though people are strangely critical of it. I'm not quite sure what their problem is. It's a long two-parter, and we seem to get into everything, and it's a meandering. I'll give you that, but it's wide. Okay, sound is good, I want to say. All right, so we are in Take Your Calls, as I mentioned,

and we're going to talk about a couple of issues that are in the press. I want to decompress a little bit from yesterday, what Dr. Pentazatos was saying, which is, isn't it, again, each time I talk to these people, I learn a little bit more. He was saying that here he was, columbia professor a neuroscientist he is someone looking for data looking for signals in the data and saw this problematic signal this this concern that the vaccines were causing trouble in young males he raised his hand and said should we be doing mandated vaccines in

these young people where the risk of the illness is zero and there seems to be a signal suggesting the vaccine may have problems? As soon as he wrote that letter, as soon as he was acknowledged, he was immediately put on leave. And this was the strange procedure of 2020 and 2021, which was somebody like Jay Bhattacharya raised his hand and said, look, we've never done these lockdown things before. They're not going to work. We've got to consider other things. How about focus protection? He was immediately attacked, marginalized, and really attempted to be drummed out of his professional standing. This, to me, is the most strange of what we've been through.

Normally, we have discourse. So somebody like Dr. Pantazatos comes up and says, hey, we've got a signal here. And if you look at his data and disagree, you go, no, Spiro, Dr. Spiro, you're wrong. Here's why. We're not going to listen to you. Thank you for your opinion, but we believe it's wrong, and here's why.'re not going to listen to you thank you for your opinion but we believe

it's wrong and here's why and then you counter the argument and then there's a little back and forth if you remember even when he was being requested for publication for some of the data he collected they gave him some specific feedback which is exactly how science works he addressed it and then they still refused to publish his data. So this phenomenon of refusing to acknowledge good studies and attempting to destroy people who are professionals of high standing who are just raising their hand and saying, maybe we have an issue here. I still don't know whether there is an issue or not. I feel pretty clear that there's not in the very elderly populations and they get a lot of benefit. In a 30-year-old and a 25-year-old, they have to do

the data because the risk of the illness is so remote that if there's any reasonable risk from the vaccine, we should know that so we can make that decision with our patients. I'm not saying then the vaccine should be condemned. I'm saying then the vaccine should be considered, certainly not mandated, certainly not mandated. Because you mandate something that's dangerous, there will be a consequence for that. And particularly when there have been people like Dr. Pantosatos who've raised his hand and questioned, just raised the question. He's not saying, hey, man, I'm right. I know it for sure. He's saying, could there be a problem here? Maybe mandates aren't appropriate.

But the desire to destroy people who dissent is so far from anything I've ever seen in my lifetime, I don't understand it. And people seem to have gloried in these guillotines, in this cancellation sort of world. It seemed like this was sort of a continuation of the cancellation instinct and i just saw a video right before this mic heated up of uh alexandria ocasio-cortez being attacked in a brutal way now she's on the guillotine which has been one of my points forever if If you cancel, if you use cancellation the way the French use guillotine, eventually everybody ends up on the guillotine. So guess what? Everybody's going to get through this cancellation phenomenon. That's how mobs work.

That's how scapegoating works. We have myriad experiences through human history to show us. And thus we stop all this and start talking to each other the way we always had. So there's that. I spoke to Dr. Mark McDonald again, the psychiatrist, and apparently there's a four-year, what are they called, a four-year document, a discovery document about some of the early days of the mandates and the lockdowns in the federal government. And it shows through the communications that have been found in discovery, something very clear. Another piece of the puzzle. So one piece of the puzzle is people raising their hand, getting crushed needlessly because of the continuation of cancellation

policy. The other piece is why the extreme confidence in procedures that have never been carried out before. It turns out what comes up in these documents is fear of the press. That the press, the New York Times editorial board, mandating lockdown. People that have no medical training, have no business even having an opinion on this, mandating things that the government then followed. So when I was back in the day shaking my head like, why did they do this? What was going on? They were convinced by their Chinese colleagues. They believed what the Chinese were doing was working, both completely false. And then they were mandated by an out-of-control

press. That starts to make sense, doesn't it, when you see people doing irrational things? So when they're under this pressure, they invent something like social distancing, a concept never before described. Six feet social distancing invented out of whole cloth. I've now talked to two people who were in the room during the discussion to come up with what the social distancing policy might be. Social distancing in infectious disease just meant kind of staying away from people who are sick. Now, invented out of whole cloth, everybody should be six feet away. By the way, there was a hotly contested 10-foot contingency, and even people who advocated 60 feet.

They were all inventing it because this didn't exist. And none of it worked. Maybe some of it delayed some of the respiratory viral spread, but probably little to none. We end up in the same place. Now, that is the key thing people have to understand. Lockdowns did not work. Now, as we went through the safety, you know, the fear avoidance, the safety preoccupations, and then the vaccine became the sole and only way to go forward.

I will say something again that I said the other day, which is vaccine therapies have risk-modified distribution. You give measles to children. You give pneumonia and Prevnar to the elderly. You give shingles to the elderly. You give yellow fever. I'm going to show you this video in just a second. You give yellow fever to people who are going to the sub-Saharan Africa. That's who gets the vaccines. You don't give all vaccines to everybody all the time. You decide where it has most risk-benefit analysis, risk-benefit distribution. So measles is better in childhood unless there's an outbreak and you have low measles

titers. You want to repeat. You repeat. If you're going to sub-Saharan Africa, you might need some yellow fever vaccine. If you are, I mean, there's just so many vaccines that are just specific to specific risk categories and age groups. Why to ask the question, is there an age distribution optimization for this vaccine that must be met with total cancellation and destruction? Think about how weird that is. As opposed to somebody coming back with, oh, you know what,

we did randomized controlled trials on this. We looked at the risk of the illness versus the risk of the vaccine. And here's the model we've used and let's talk about it. That's not what happens. What happens is total annihilation. So we have the Pfizer representative

now in front of the European Union Parliament. Whoops. And that's what? What is that, Caleb? Oh, this is the clip of you from yesterday's show that people can go and watch it over on... Oh, saying the same thing I said today, essentially. Yes, exactly.

Also, I don't know if we're live on Rumble right now. I don't think we're live on Rumble. Why would that be? Are you sure? I have an old computer, so it... Somebody said that they weren't... Okay, we are. Okay, never mind. Oh somebody said that they weren't. Okay, we are. Okay, there it goes.

Hi, Rumble. So I want to show you the video that's been making the rounds. I think most people have seen this. He's a German or a Dutch parliamentarian who is questioning this Pfizer representative. And let's just take a look at it. And then I think my response may surprise you a little bit. And Caleb, I'm going to have you question me, interview me a little bit about it. Was the Pfizer COVID vaccine tested on stopping the transmission of the virus before it entered the market? If not, please say it clearly. If yes, are you willing to share the data with this committee and i really want straight answer yes or no and i'm looking forward to it thank you very much

regarding the question around um did we know about stopping humanization before it's entered the market no uh these um you know we had to really move at the speed of science to really understand what is taking place so there are no misunderstandings all right was there it is the pfizer covid we got that we got it the answer is no the answer is no and uh to to pair it to to um follow in the heels of the great dr john John Campbell, the speed of science. What exactly is the speed of science? I understand you had to roll this thing out fast and it was an emergency. There's no such thing as the speed of science. In fact, science is very plodding and takes forever. You superseded the usual speed of science and I get it. That's fine. We had an emergency. You

were willing to take, here's what the truth is, you were willing to take more risk than you normally would. The problem is that there was an inference about the fact that we could suppress, we seem to be able to suppress the virus. The original data, if you remember, was 96% effective at suppressing viral reproduction and this stuff. The projection and inference was that therefore, because there's viral suppression, there will be no transmission or little or no transmission, and the potential for creating new unproblematic variants would be reduced. Those were all assumptions. None of that was tested, nor could it be tested. How could you test it? What are you going to do? Put a bunch of people

in a room and say, stand here for a couple of days with these people we've given the vaccine to and let's see if you get COVID. There's no ethical way to do that. The problem is you had government officials extrapolating. Again, non-medical people, when they start getting a hold of this material, it's when we get into trouble. It's what I've been saying from the beginning. The press needed to shut up. The medical people needed to be speaking for themselves. So now you have government officials saying this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated.

People that are unvaccinated should be marginalized and the fact that they extrapolated the inability to transmit if you've been vaccinated which was a false extrapolation or not not entirely true except partly true but not entirely true use that as a legal justification for marginalizing people, particularly people of color. If you look back at me a year ago, I was complaining about this. That, well, I'm going to take no opinion on what needs to happen, but at least an apology, at least an apology. Caleb, do you have the part where this gentleman from the parliament

with the accent goes on to talk about what he thinks ought to be done? Let me see. i'm going to see if i can pull it up it's sort of the it's sort of i forget it's the first part of the second but probably the follow-on he follows on with some comments so there you go um there is people advocating extraordinary measures who have no business doing so who don't understand this is the thing i always bring out for everybody. Here's what I understand. I understand that this is what's out there to get you.

These are two infectious, these are the smallest infectious disease textbooks I can find. The red one is pediatric. The blue one is adult. These infectious diseases are available to you in the world. We are biological agents. Millions of people get these infectious diseases all the time. This is scandalous. Here it is. Here's his comment. I just want to finish the comment, which is that we have to contextualize this. And if you're not

a medical person, how can you contextualize it? And we've allowed bureaucrats to go crazy with an inability to understand and ignoring all the other problems. I suspect that's where all the excess debts are coming from. The fact we've ignored the rest of medicine for two years. Maybe there's some element of the vaccine, too. I don't know. We'll see. Here's what the this is the EU parliament member. Howard felt forced to get vaccinated because of the myth that you do it for others. Now this turned out to be a cheap lie. So he asks for actually legal action.

And that's part of what he was saying there. I don't think this is Pfizer's fault. I really don't. Pfizer was doing the best they could, getting it done as fast as they could. This was the fault of government bureaucrats throughout the world. You want to fault somebody, blame bureaucracy. Bureaucracy was the problem.

It was the enemy the whole time. Let me show you another video of someone who allowed for the conflagration. We have one Bill Gates reconsidering something that, if you heard me talking about a year ago, you would have known that somehow magically I saw this. Adam Carolla noticed this a year and a half ago. Why did we know this and Bill Gates didn't?

Let's take a look at what Mr. Gates is saying now. It wasn't until early February when I was in a meeting that experts at the foundation said, there's no way. There's been too much travel without diagnosis for us to contain this. And then at that point, we didn't really understand the fatality rate. We didn't understand that it's a fairly low fatality rate and that it's a disease mainly of the elderly, kind of like flu is, although a bit different than that so that was pretty scary period right where the world

yes you did but you did know hang on let me interrupt stop him stop him that's enough bill that's enough we did know it we did know it people did know it but you were withheld from that information that people if you look back at all the press reports of the day at that time, they never gave the age of the people who were dying. They gave their name without the age. When there's a death on the freeway here in Los Angeles, they say, Jill Smith, a 58-year-old mom of three. They tell the age always.

Suddenly, no age. It was being suppressed because if you saw the ages, you would know immediately that the predominant risk was age. Not saying that it didn't kill young people. It did kill some young people. Not saying it wasn't brutal. It was brutal. But we have so severely distorted what was happening

and used fear as a way of commandeering the entire populace. And people are still injured by that fear. People are still walking around in surgical masks outdoors. Surgical masks don't work. Outdoors, there's no transmission. Essentially, never occurs. Essentially, never. If you want to protect yourself with an N95, please do so.

Surgical masks, waste of time as far as we can tell. N95, protect the individual, don't protect others. Caleb, do you have any questions about what I've said so far? Yes. Honestly, I think that everything you're saying makes sense, especially to me, who is a non-medical person. We trusted all of these people and what they were saying through this whole time. And then it turns out that they weren't even listening to the medical professionals themselves. They're not listening to the science.

They're not looking at this. And so then we all start to assume that there are much, much worse things that are being hidden and that this is a much bigger conspiracy than it actually is. Because we're thinking, well, if you lied to us about this,

like they can't sit there and deny that all of us were led to believe that getting the mRNA vaccines would prevent transmission because they kept on telling us that if you send your kids to school and your kids aren't vaccinated, they're going to come home and they're going to carry that virus home to grandma and kill your grandma. Super spreaders, super spreaders, teachers, students, everybody. Now they're all wanting to act like, oh, we that but it's like that doesn't make sense to me that was the whole point that's why we had to lock down right exactly exactly and and

here's the thing that it's fine to say it's fine bill gates almost says it it's fine for them to say look we thought this virus because it seemed so effective in these initial data points that we were going to anticipate it suppressing spread. Lo and behold, the immunity wore off quicker than we thought. Lo and behold, it does seem to prevent severe illness, which really was the goal. Severe illness and death is what we wanted to end. We thought it was going to do all these other things. We really wanted people to take it because we needed to suppress death and hospitalization.

And by the way, if that was really their goal, they should have focused on the at-risk population. Listen, we saw them do it again with monkeypox. They refused to discuss who was at risk so we could figure out who to vaccinate. That's how vaccines work. You give it to the risk group. And if you don't identify the risk group, you're going to miss people who can benefit and people are going to be harmed, both because you don't identify the risk group, you're going to miss people who can benefit and people are going to be harmed, both because they didn't get the vaccine and because people who didn't need the vaccine did get

the vaccine. Both are bad. And if you don't, I don't, this is another one of these bewilder, I shake my head every day, like I'm bamboozled. Why they can't say, hey, this is predominantly, yes, it could break into the general population, but right now it's gay men in New York. Let's go get them.

Let's go vaccinate the hell out of that and make this thing stop. They never said that. Crazy. Drew, the cover-up is always worse than the crime, especially for anyone that has ever questioned anything about what the government is telling them. I know for a fact now that after all of this going on, that all of my distant family members and all of the anti-vaxxers that I've known from my family history, they all now have so much ammunition

because now they're saying, well, look, they lied to you about this. So what's to make you think they didn't lie to you about the flu vaccine, about chickenpox, about this? They're like, we've been right all along. And look, now we have this sterling example of this. And it's, it's, if they had just told people, we're just truthful because we, now we just feel like we've been lied to. And now it's, I never, never, ever would have questioned any of this stuff. And now I have questions that I never had ever even thought I would ever know. You sound like that. Now you

sound like Steve Kirsch. Right. Those are exactly who you were at one point. I get it. I talked to my relatives now. I'm like, look, guys, I understand now. I understand what you're saying. I get it.

Look, it's hard for me to go and tell my relatives that have been anti-vaxxers for 20 years, that everything they're saying is just nonsense because now it's right in front of our eyes, an example case of something where they just didn't tell us the truth. Now, maybe they had, maybe they were afraid like, oh, if we look too deeply at this, then we're not going to get enough people that people who aren't medical professionals don't know how to understand this data, but it's, it's surely backfiring now that they weren't truthful. It really is. I feel like it's, you's surely backfiring now that they weren't truthful. It, it really is. I feel like it's, you know, it almost reminds me of where it may not be anywhere near as bad as what we're able to imagine right now, but now we're really imagining it. It's like that thing whenever, uh, it was coming out about how Dr. Fauci, everyone was, was really upset that Dr. Fauci was supposedly or reportedly doing experiments

on dogs for like drug tests. I don't remember what exactly it was. It was some sort of lab experiment. We love our dogs like they're our children. My wife only lets our dogs drink spring water. They get spring water. She won't let me feed them water from the sink. But I also understand- Don't talk too much, Caleb. Okay? I'm warning you right now. I'm just saying, look. The dog's privileged. Oh, I see. Dogs are privileged

too. They're all white too. This is my whole point here. I understand that some dogs have jobs. I'm not a medical professional, but I get it. Some dogs sniff drugs. Some dogs sniff bombs. And they're doing that. Well, no. Let me tell but I get it. Some dogs sniff drugs, some dogs sniff bombs, and they're doing that. Well, no, let me tell you the dog thing. Let me tell you the dog thing. Dogs throughout the modern medical history have been used for medical research. In medical

school, every groups of four medical students routinely given dogs that were euthanized. Can you call Jordan Pinsky there, Susan? We don't like it. They were routinely given. The handling of the dogs was extremely humane and carefully done they were all dogs who were literally taken from the head of the line of the kennels of the of the sbcas who were about to be euthanized by the kennels and brought to the medical research centers and then they were routinely put into various camps medical students in the 80s we learned how to do arterial lines and and intubations on dogs and the dogs, at the end of the procedures, were euthanized.

They were not awake. They were under anesthesia. They were carefully handled. And dogs, sorry, I've got an itchy nose all of a sudden. The dogs were also used for medical research. Just imagine if they had hidden all of that. They acted as if, oh, no, no, we don't do tests on dogs. This isn't going to happen.

And then it came out years later that they've been doing it. All we would imagine is that they're just doing these cruel and unusual experiments on dogs. However, they're honest about it. The dogs are handled very carefully. These are heroic dogs, basically, that are saving our lives by taking the risk for us. Right. If they can be honest about things like that, that are unfortunate facts about medicine, then why can't they just be honest about, look, this isn't,

it is not a 100% risk-free choice or not 100% risk-free mandate that we can just put across the whole population, 100% everyone. I got the mRNA vaccines and I was totally fine. Wife was totally fine. Our baby is totally fine. So it's, but they're allowing this

to get so much larger than it ever had to be. Right. That's exactly right. And so people are getting hysterical as much as they were on the fear side. Now there are people getting hysterical on the vaccine side. We need more data. It clearly benefits the elderly. Just slow down, everybody.

There is Covaxin. There is Novavax. There are things you can choose that are alternatives that if you the mrna bothers you there are things you can do that are of different nature and um it won't stop transmission none of this will stop transmission but it may stop in some people more serious illness exactly and the the real the real thing is there you know omicron has been very mild for the most part. The fear is that- Maybe because it didn't mutate, right?

Well, it hasn't mutated further into something more severe. But you notice that- Now, did the vaccine help that? Maybe. Who knows? I mean, that was sort of the intuition. No, the intuition was that it was going to put- Brett Weinstein was saying that it was going to put evolutionary pressure on the virus

to get around the vaccine, and that was going to make worse, more virulent, more contagious viruses. It didn't do that. It didn't do that. So good. This is the virus is learning to exist with us, which is better for the virus and better for us. And so that tends to be the direction it goes. The bivalent vaccine, I think, is going to at least protect us against the possibility of a resurgence of alpha and delta, which I get. That could come back again. Or you could just get exposed to it. It's not zero. It's still around.

And those are nasty. Those are nasty illnesses. So here's what I want to do. Wait, wait. I have to tell you something. Yeah. So yesterday, you kind of imprompt-ly at the very end of our show, you said we're going to go over to Locals and do a live stream.

So a bunch of people went over there trying to find the live stream, but I think by the time they got signed up and they figured out how to become a supporter for seven bucks and blah, blah, blah, you were done. So they missed it. And we have somebody on the Twitter spaces who would really like to ask a question today. Somebody I should get a call up here? I just sent you a picture of her Twitter, if she raises her hand. Do you see it?

Did you get it? No, it's all, it's not that picture. I see her hand. See the little thing that says, sure, babe? Oh, yeah. all, that picture, I see your hand. See the little thing that says, sure, babe. Oh yeah, I have, yes, I see her. She's on, she's got her hand up. So I will get to her. So you got to answer her question.

All right, so I will get to her immediately. She had some problems with the locals. She had to pay twice or something. So we have to try to get her. All right, so we'll get to her question immediately after this. And to the rest, if you have your hands up, I'll try to get to as many of you as possible. And thank you for joining Locals.

It's a place where we see your comments and information. And it's sort of like our Patreon because we don't have Patreon. But we are going to try and do a little bit more live streaming one-on-one questions over there after Wednesday shows with Kelly. Do you want to do it today too? Or just... There's no point to today. Hopefully I'll get to as many people as possible here. Do you want to do it today too? Or just point to today.

I hope he'll get to as many people. Yeah, we'll get to, we'll get to the questions. Okay. We will do that and be right back up to this. Consumer price index yet again, going up stock market in turmoil.

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okay perfect sorry my phone cuts out every now and then with our service here um so yesterday i was listening to um, similar topic that you were on live. Um, I just wanted to, I don't know if you follow much with Canada out in Regina, Saskatchewan, have you at all? Uh, I'm aware that there's lots of trouble there of all types of things. Yes. And I think I've got your email about the problem with inappropriate use of naltrexone or naloxone.

Um, yes, that's one. But, um, for the topic that you guys were on, I just wanted to address a couple of things. Um,

so I had pulled my kids out of public school and I didn't vaccinate them. And I was totally against it because for one, it came very fast. So that to me was alarming, right? So as a mother, you want to protect your cubs. And then with me, I have some, like every time I get, they get a cold, I get pneumonia. So I thought, Oh God, like if they get COVID I'm dead, you know? So I was very concerned. So I had pulled them out of school, kept them safe. We all three did not catch the COVID for the whole pandemic. As far as you know, because kids sometimes have it right now, now, the antibody, the exposure rate is like 89% in kids. Right. So, you know, everybody was actually quite impressed that, you know, with my immunity is very bad that, you know, we didn't catch it.

But we had our mother-in-law move in with us and she works in the correction system and, um, her and her son, which is my kid's father, they were both vaccinated by no choice. So basically they had no choice. So now when they had the vaccination, uh, they came to the house after we were fine the whole pandemic. Then they came here and brought it to us. And I'm going to tell you something. I don't heal quick. And these two had the vaccinations, I think two or three. And then me and the kids having none.

Okay. They were the last two to recover his mom almost from covet so so from covet so the vaccinated folks got infected and brought it home correct okay um very common very common unfortunately like, I mean, a doctor here in Regina, he got the vaccination. And within, I believe it was, excuse me, 15 minutes, he dropped dead from the vaccination. And then there was some girl on the news from Alberta. We're very aware of the data. We've been doing multiple shows on it. So, and we just don't, again, we don't have proof yet, but there's a signal and we're concerned. How can I help?

Well, I'm just saying, like, I really think the vaccination is more of a problem than a positive. Well, you may want to look at the last three Wednesdays of shows that we've seen, we've done, because that's all we were talking about, trying to break it apart and see if there's really a problem there or not. And all I can tell you is there are signals that there might be a problem. We just don't know yet. We just don't know. There's signals in pregnant women. There's signal in young males. There's signal in various places. And that versus the risk of the illness needs to be completely sorted out. And why there's not an emergency procedure to do that versus the risk of the illness needs to be completely sorted out and why there's not an emergency procedure to do that is the part that's mystifying to me right like my

brother for example uh he was out in uh wakeboarding and um he's from calgary alberta and uh he had the vaccination as well and And they had to helicopter him for, had a heart attack at 31 years old. Oh my gosh. We're hearing lots of anecdotes like that. And that's why I'm interviewing all these people that have concerns about this to see if we can come up with some sort of consensus, some sort of.

Is he okay? Um, he is okay, but he's not, you know, the same. well, no, oh my gosh.

Yeah. And I mean, 31 years old, like that's, I know I have, I have three 30 year olds. I would go, I would just be,

and Susan has been sitting through multiple stories like this for the last two months.'t we're we're going to Europe and uh in Spain you have if you don't have the booster you have to get a you know COVID test or you know prove it you had COVID blah blah blah just to get off the the boat and go in and one of my sons did not get the vaccine and the other one did and the one who got, I pray to God nothing happens. And he's calling you now, which is why I want you to. It's the middle of a show. I understand, but you can excuse yourself. He had the COVID vaccine a few weeks ago.

Right. He's right on schedule for trouble today. So why don't you go talk to him? Thanks, Drew. Okay, I'll go talk to him. Well, that's why it's hard for me to do this show unless you go excuse yourself and go talk to him. Please. All right.

We're going to start fighting in front of you kids now i have a question vaccinated what's that did you get the vaccination i had the i had the um the j and j and i had a horrific reaction to it uh caleb yeah and caleb can put up the uh picture of my eye i woke up feeling horrible with a that what's called a raccoon's eye and that is the presenting feature of the transverse sinus thrombosis which is the dreaded complication uh happened only in two males i thought oh man i'm not gonna be one of the three i'm gonna be number three and it it never progressed thankfully but uh clearly i was having some sort of consumptive coagulopathy,

which is what's been reported from that vaccine. Now, did I get anything from that vaccine? I doubt it. I'd already had a bad case of Delta and then I had Omicron. The illnesses give you much better immunity. And, you know, we're all going to get lots of Omicron. It's going to happen over and over and over again

to most of us. And, you know, people get lots of Omicron. It's going to happen over and over and over again to most of us. And people are obsessing about long COVID. And look, there's long COVID from the vaccine too. And maybe we'll be able to reduce long COVID by taking Paxlovid. There's ways that we need to learn more about this rather than just, again, the press freaking out about it. When you see words like grim or what are the other words they used? God, I can't remember the words they were using. They were so disgustingly ridiculous, but grim is the word looking out for,

you know, you have somebody in the press just trying to scare you. There's nothing else they're trying to do. All right. Well, thanks. Your baby appreciate it. Yes. Thank you so much. Appreciate you talking to me. You bet. Our pleasure. Let's thank you so much. I appreciate you talking to me. You bet. Our pleasure. Let's bring Justin up here. Justin, I'm just going through the line here, seeing as you guys come up.

Justin, what can I do for you? Hello, Dr. Drew. How are we doing? I'm good, sir. How are you? Good. I think we talked, when was I on your show? Last year. Gosh, it's been a year plus now.

Oh, Justin Hart. There you are. I was working on scheduling you? Last year. Gosh, it's been a year plus now. Oh, Justin Hart. I was working on scheduling you back. I was like, which Justin is this? Yes, it has been at least a year. We were coming after you for another appearance. So what's going on since then? No, I think we've got, we had over the weekend, we had our conference here in San Diego.

We had Dr. Atlas down here. We had Jay Bachatari. We had Jennifer Say. And it was really interesting. We had Dr. Atlas down here. We had Jay Bachatari. We had Jennifer Say. And it was really interesting. We got through all the data. But I think that what's really intriguing is going to be sort of the social aspect here in the United States. Because the one thing I heard over and over again, we had like 100 plus people here for this Rational Ground Conference. And they were talking like, I'm just so glad to be with other people that are thinking sanely, right? And it encouraged them to talk to other neighbors. Because I think, you know, the vast majority of people were like, look, I don't want to get in the fight,

right? And so they just kind of went and did it, did the vax, did the quarantine, did, you know, the social distancing. And I think what's sort of keeping us back now is it's really hard for people to stomach that none of those had effect, right? That all the sacrifices were basically for nothing. Right. There's two versions of that. One is it's hard for the populace to get their head around that. I mean, how is that possible? It seems ridiculous. But what I find more disturbing is the people that made those decisions are not saying, hey, we were wrong. Sorry. And have new data. We'll adjust course or we'll learn more next time. We won't do anything like that. Anything. But it's nothing. It's silence. That's bothering me.

Yeah. And I think a lot of people would feel very comfortable with having a sit down with Dr. Fauci or Dr. Birx if they just kind of came out and said, yeah, we were totally wrong. Sure. Not even totally wrong. Just we're reconsidering our position. And maybe we should have adjusted. I just played a tape of Bill Gates saying exactly that. Now, the problem is it frustrated me when hearing him say that because I'm like, well, how did we know?

How come I knew? How come Adam Carolla knew, not a medical doctor? He just knew that the age thing, age distribution, was a significant feature and it was being obscured. It was being obfuscated. Why did you guys do that? I think part of it is that the pandemic was so localized. Here in my area where I am in San Diego, if I went to the grocery store at the height of this thing, they were chasing me down the aisles trying to put a mask on me, and everyone was masked up, right? But if I went 15 miles inland to Poway, God's country, a little bit more there, a little more Western, right?

It was maybe 20% masked up. And so based on how your school did, how your neighbors were acting, it was just such a local experience, right? And so I think it's just such a myriad thing. Once the federal government got down with the lockdowns and gave the keys to 3,200 county health officials and 13,000 school districts across the county, it was just such a mess. It was a mess. Yeah, and so that's what I think is going to be next is if there is a change in the guard here in November, I have a good authority that they want to do some hearings. We're already producing questions that are kind

of a record of inquiry that we would love to put in front of people and say, look, we're adults, we'll deal with the politics. You shut down my business. That was completely wrong. You kept from my church. That was ridiculous. But you harmed my kids and my kids can't get those years back. And that's why we need to make sure that these things never happen you have like liana wen who's goes on cnn every single day and would gladly weld you inside your apartment if you're unvaccinated right and then she comes out and she says look the masks were no good they are facial decorations they actually didn't harm to my kid we welcome her to team reality yeah right yeah but but she should never have an influence over public policy again. Right.

That's, I think, the line we need to draw on some of this stuff. There are some people that just need to go away. Right. And the press need to be held accountable, particularly the New York Times and the organizations that were intent on having their way with the people. That's not the job of the press. They were clearly trying to exert their will. And that needs to be addressed loud and clear. I was talking to Mark McDonald.

I don't know if he was down there with you, the psychiatrist. And he was saying he now has some FOIA, what are they called, FOIA documents? FOIA. FOIA documents, where it shows very clearly the government was scared to death of this malignant press that was forcing them to take more aggressive action. That should never happen. Never. That is disgusting. So, yes, I agree with you wholeheartedly. That is great news if indeed this happens, because we cannot let this happen again. We just can't happen again.

The one thing I'm still confused about, though, maybe you can help me with this. Why did dissent? Normally, dissent in clinical and scientific discourse is meant with affirmative discourse, like, no, you're wrong, here's why. And then the person who was presenting the original data goes okay let me get your input and i'm gonna give you my my adjusted argument what do you say to that and you go back and forth instead what it's met with today is complete silencing canceling marginal, marginalizing, destruction.

Why do you have to destroy dissent? That to me was the oddest part of this whole thing. It was strange. I think I spoke to you about how our team was kind of the pro bono chart group and data group behind Scott Atlas when he was at the White House. He had nobody. So he reached out to us and said,

can you guys help us do this, right? We had lots of conversations, what he was experiencing. He obviously retold that in a lot of his book. And I asked him one time, I said, so they're not changing course. Is that because they're just, they're trying to save face? They don't know how to do it? And he corrected me, said, no, Justin,

these folks are dumb. And I said, oh no. He said, yeah, the people at the top are just, they're not bright people. And so I think they're kind of holding on to power. And I think my kindest interpretation was they didn't know how to save face and back out of it. Because they had made their bed so far into this thing that it was tough to get out. Or if that's true, they're undereducated, may not be a they may not have any experience

with adjusting course like this this is part this is something we are in since undergraduate in science you're just drilled into your head that you you constantly are getting attacked constantly asking to defend your position constantly changing and maneuvering and adjusting course based on currently available thinking and if you've never had that training, maybe you just don't know what to do. And all you do is get, have an emotional reaction and entrench. That's great. Like I'll let other people swing in. Maybe we can chat later.

It comes out next Tuesday. All right. What's it called? Oh, called a gone viral. How COVID drove the world insane. Please send me a copy. I want to read it before I talk to you again. Oh, there it is.

It's up on the top. Susan, this is Justin Hart. We've been trying to get him for a Wednesday show. He was on our show before, right? Yes, he was. Oh, okay, good. Glad you called in. Yeah, I was trying to get him for Kelly on a Wednesday

so we could all share what's going on. So, okay, Gone Viral, How COVID Drove the World Insane. It reminds me of Dr. Woolhouse's book, The Year the World Went Crazy or something is the name of his book. And it's a really interesting book about what happened to him in the UK. Very similar to what you're talking about here, but he had a really interesting take on it. His thing was constantly to blame himself because he did stand up. And his thinking was, if I'd been more persuasive, if I'd been more persistent, they would have understood me.

If I'd been more blah, blah, blah. And I thought, oh, poor man. He doesn't understand what he was up against at the time. There was no amount of persuasion that can change that. It would get you canceled. He would have been taken out. It's a rough game. Susan has your contact info? Yeah, I do.

Yes? Yes. All right. We'll talk to you soon. Thanks, Drew. All right. You got talk to you soon. Thanks, Drew. All right, you got it. Send him an email and see if he can send me the book. Caleb, what?

I need to mention, they're having some internet issues over on your side, Drew, over in California, so that's why things keep skipping just a little bit. You're still here. Like what? For some reason, your internet connection, it keeps on skipping as it's reaching me. There's a bit of an extra delay which isn't normal but you know it'll be fine just so people know that's

why it's happening all right we're not getting that back here yeah it seems fine here okay all right let me just keep going through the list here see what i can do with uh everybody you've got lots of requests uh this is somebody who is named R.I.P. I don't know the name attached to that. You can maybe provide me that name. It'd be great. R.I.P. Yep. Hey there. There you are. Hello. Hey there. Hey, sorry about that, Dr. Drew.

Hey, I just tuned in, so I'm sorry if you answered this already. But I was just curious, kind of on a scale of 1 to 10, how concerned are you personally for yourself, your own health as far as side effects are concerned? Side effects of vaccine? Yeah, yeah. Like yourself personally for your own health. Yeah. I am resisting taking further boosters.

I would rather get Omicron myself. This is for me personally. I feel like I've had Omicron. I've been exposed to Omicron twice. It seems like I'm highly immune to it. I'm imagining that what I would get would be a mild illness and excellent immunity. So I'd rather see the whole virus and have a little illness than get the vaccine. If I were to get the vaccine, my number one choice would be Covaxin.

My number two choice would be Novavax. And personally, for me, and the third would be the mRNA vaccine. I've seen the mRNA vaccine destroy a couple of my kids. So I'm assuming I'll have the same reaction. Of course, I had that terrible reaction at Johnson & Johnson as well. Yeah. And the only reason he got that was because we were going to Greece and you had to do it in order to go and fly there and get on the ship. That's right. And it was a great trip. And by the way, I had measured immunity. I was using this thing called the Adatex score. And it was sort of a non-commercially available measure of neutralizing

antibodies and other things. And I was more than immune. I was adequately immune. Right. And then I took the vaccine, and then I was sort of way up on the scale, but unnecessarily so. I've had three vaccines, and they didn't bother me. But, you know, I was always crazy anyways. In terms of your genetic.

If there's any result of it, it probably was the way. What's that? Sorry. Again, I'm sorry if you already answered this. But does there be a window in which complications arise? It seems like serious complications are in my gestalt on this, if this is what I think I'm seeing, again, there's no data for me to substantiate this, but I've seen a lot of clinical hints

that somewhere in two to four weeks, that's when you start seeing the POTS, that's when you're in the myocarditis, that's when you start seeing some of the sudden death type things. Later is where you see the atrial dysrhythmias. So later on, I'm seeing things that end up at the electrophysiologist office type things later is where you see the atrial dysrhythmias. So later on, I'm seeing things that end up at the electrophysiologist office that are not so serious,

but are real big and have to be managed and be on medication and have an ablation and all these nasty things. As though there was some localized, like very focal myocarditis that caused an electrical problem. All right? localized like very focal myocarditis that caused an electrical problem all right okay thank you so much for taking the time i love you guys thank you thank you love you more this is uh dan let me get up here dan was up in in the queue yesterday so

see if i can get to him today everybody thinks that you're pro vax but you don't you didn't even want to take it in the first place no i'm vax my elderly patient if i were 75 thinks that you're pro-vax, but you didn't even want to take it in the first place. No, I'm vax my elderly patient. If I were 75, I'd take it. Yeah, but you are so sensitive to everything. I know, I know, I know. So that's why I think it's a nuanced decision. I see you, Dan, you're up.

It's a nuanced decision that each doctor and patient need to make for that given patient. That's why it's something that shouldn't be mandated all over the place. That is a sledgehammer that is not appropriate to the present moment. It seems to me, humbly, humbly, it seems that way. Dan, you've got to unmute your mic. I see your hand up. I've got you.

Let me see. Yeah, I've got you up as speaker. There you are. Hello. Hey there. So I've got a quick question now i've looked at the data myself um the question is why did uh the cdc pfizer astrazeneca and jnj um before all the before the first vaccines were released to the public why did all four of the companies have a sudden major drop in stock price shares

before the first vaccine was released? I have no idea that's answering I have to look at my second question is who benefited from the drop the money that but not just the drop, but who earned money from the vaccines being released. Well, currently, clearly these companies did. And let's remind ourselves, the government, the taxpayer dollars bought all these vaccines. So there was essentially no risk in the distribution of the vaccine and no marketing expense for the vaccine. So, of course, the companies greatly, greatly benefited.

Yes? I've lost you, Dan. So it was literally just a money grab then? No, I think I don't think it's that simple. I really don't. I think they believed they were doing the right thing. They were an emergency footing.

They were trying to do the best they could. The part that is duplicitous is they didn't change direction as the data changed. That's the part that I'm taking issue with. I really, I can't fault them. Look, it was a miracle of science when this thing rolled out. We were all so excited to get to the vaccine and get on with our lives. And we were hoping that the data was, you know, confirmed, that they looked as good, you know, it wasn't as,

you know, when things are too good to be true, they are too good to be true. And so, you know, we hope that it was as good as we were hoping, but it was not. And there was lots of problems associated with it. And now still, anybody that asks about those problems, which is the really mysterious thing, is being canceled for just questioning things, for just wondering, is there a problem? Is there not a problem? And by the way, as you mentioned, Dan, the CDC, I'll say it again and again, Dr. Walensky said the reason she's recommending 12 and above is because she just wanted to simplify her messaging. That's the most bizarre statement I've ever heard.

I've got Dr. Lori up for speaker. Lori, what's going on there? Hi, thank you for having me. You bet. I wanted to share that I came across a study that was done in 2006. No, I'm sorry. It was done in 2004, published in 2006, where in SARS-1, they had compared different antibodies in people that had survived the disease versus those who had not.

And they found at that time that while both the survivors and the deceased did have antibodies to the spike protein, the people that survived the virus also had antibodies, I'm sorry, N-protein antibodies, but the deceased had little to none. By N, you mean nucleolar or nucleocapsid, or what do you mean, N?

Nucleocapsid, yes. Yeah, okay. And so, it just makes me wonder, like, they knew that information back in 2004. Well, you're making my case for me, which is why I want to get Omicron as opposed to the vaccine, because when you get the native virus, it's also why I want Covaxin in this country. Covaxin is a whole virus. We need more than just the spike protein, right? That's my point. Why would they make these vaccines based on just the spike when they knew back in 2004 that there was other proteins that were more important? I'm going to guess.

I'm going to guess. I'm going to say that either they didn't know, they didn't see the data, or they ignored it, or there was questions about whether or not that was a real signal or not. I mean, subsequent literature. I don't read that literature. I'm not familiar with it, so I can't say either way. But it certainly fits my instinct on this, which is the whole protein, the whole virus is better than the spike protein. That's just my general note.

And I think that's the case you're making. And you're a biology teacher, right? Yes, I have a PhD in biology. Yeah, so convince me I'm wrong. I'm not trying to. I'm just trying to share that. No, no, I'm saying here's a biology PhD. We're both looking at it from a clinical perspective.

You're looking at it from pure science, and we're coming to the same place, which is, hmm, I bet the whole protein, the whole virus is probably more important for immunity than just the spike protein, especially when the spike is causing so much problem, it seems like, right? The spike is probably like the antigen in the whole thing, I think. Like that's the motorist part of the virus. So you're saying something really provocative. I'm not going to say it's true, but you're saying that they chose the exact wrong protein

to go after, right? Well, I'm not saying that they knew that beforehand. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying it turns out that they picked one. It was a bad luck that they picked. Thank you. I think that's a really interesting observation. I will keep my eye

on that, that they might have picked wrong, that's all. That's interesting. I'd not really thought about it that way, but I think that might be. This is Dr. Luke. Dr. Luke, what's going on there? Good. How are you doing? Thank you for having me speak. So my question is, why did they even name this a vaccine when it doesn't prevent transmission? Yeah, you know, people get very weirded out on this and the fact that the CDC changed their definition. I put up the definition that's on dictionary.com, which fits the definition I've used since I was a biology undergraduate. So my definition and where I got the definition was because it was in common use,

which was anything administered to stimulate the immune system, particularly the lymphocytic, the B-cell T-cell function, the lymphocytics, to create an immune response to a specific pathogen to help protect against future infection or infectivity. That's it. That's a vaccine. Anything that boosts your immunity, there's the dictionary.com definition. Any preventative preparation used to stimulate the body's immune response against a specific disease.

That's it, period. And that's been my understanding of vaccine as long as I've been involved in biology and medicine. Now, why the CDC had a different definition on their website and then changed it back to this one, I don't know. But, you know, it's anything that's, you know, and I can even be more refined. It gives you a humoral immunity and a cellular immunity that has some benefit to future infection against a specific pathogen. That's what I always think of it. How about you? Well, I mean, I just, I agree with what you're saying.

It's just that, you know, a vaccine prevents infection from going forward. So this is in no way fits the terminology of a vaccine. Same thing like, you know, polio. When you're lucky, flu vaccines don't necessarily prevent infection. Let's see other ones. I think some of the ones that... Just makes it less viral.

What did Kelly say? Virility. Less virility. Have less, yeah. Is that what it's called? Virulence. Less virulence. So for us to sort of, you know,

harsh, you know, split hairs on whose definition is right, I don't know what we get anywhere with that. It's an attempt to stimulate the immune system. Look, that's what I think. That's why I want to get Omicron. I want to use it as a vaccine. I want to get it so I get immunity. Yeah, but you don't want to get the flu instead of getting the flu.

I don't want to get the flu because that's nasty. The flu is worse than getting Omicron. And the vaccine is not bad, so I don't mind getting the vaccine. So I had the vaccine yesterday. But I've had the flu shot every year for like 20 years and I haven't had it in probably like 20 years. The flu, yeah. I gave you the vaccine yesterday. But I've had the flu shot every year for like 20 years, and I haven't had it in probably like 20 years. The flu, yeah. I gave you the vaccine yesterday.

How'd you do with it? It made me tired. But when I do get sick, I feel something coming on, and then it goes away. But I feel kind of achy, but then it's not like I don't lose 10 pounds with the flu, which I would really like. But unfortunately, that doesn't happen anymore. Nadine wants to come back up.

She's our friend from Canada. We've got lots of requests, you guys. I'm sorry. I hope I get to as many as you like. Should we do locals after this? I don't know. I don't mind doing it. Just go long here.

These are good questions. We're having a really good conversation. Okay, Nadine. But we will do locals again. We promise. Nadine? Hi. Hey.

Welcome back. Yes, it's you. How do you tackle, there's many companies right now that still have vaccine mandates. Coca-Cola being one of them for their employees. How do you think that should be tackled? And is there a role to play from doctors to getting those removed? My sense of the people that still have ridiculous mandates for whatever, whether it's masks or vaccine, at this stage of the game, I always feel like there's an attorney in the background or a group of attorneys saying, hey, you got to do everything because if somebody gets

sick and die, you're going to look terrible. And so I think there's some, and I don't think these attorneys are in a position to assess the risk reward of vaccines. They're just going down on the side of vaccine. I think there's something like that going on. And I guess if that's true, the way it is to send a company like that a letter saying, hey, I'm 30 years old. You're requiring me to take the vaccine. I'm putting you on notice now. And I'm seeing my mother and my attorney. If I die, I'm going to hold you accountable for this for unnecessary vaccine. Something like that. Something to get them to sort of realize they have liability on the other side as well.

Does that make sense? Yeah, that does. It hasn't been taken seriously here in Canada. The lawyers kind of say there's no weight to it, but this person won't take it. So they're just going to lose their job instead, which they're willing. I think people like that are going to end up in a class action against the governments or something somehow.

I mean, these emergency states that the government's evoked sort of protect them against that, which is my sense of why they're continuing. In California, we are still in a state of emergency, which is ridiculous, beyond ridiculous. So, well, Nadine, keep up the fight. I know you're out there fighting. Let's see. Give me a second here.

Hold on one second. I'm trying to see where we are here. Sorry. All right, trying to get to people who have not had a chance to speak here. This is Winston, I think. Winston, get you up here. There you are, Winston. What's going on?

Winston Smith, you've muted yourself again. You have all thumbs on this one. Sorry about that, Joe. There you are. Just had a question for you regarding the bio distribution of the vaccine. I've gone down some rabbit holes on this, but not being a doctor. Okay. I kind of end up...

Oh, Winston, your phone is just completely... Your phone is cutting out the sign go ahead no sorry i can't hear you but i think you're going to talk about the distribution of the of the lipid lipid shells and the spike protein uh dr kelly gets very excited about that she's you know there at the beginning of this, we were told that everything stays very local and that's why the armpit lymph nodes enlarge. That's going to be largely where the immune response is mediated.

Turns out it's going everywhere. Now, whether or not that's a serious problem or not, I don't know. I worry that that's an issue because the spike protein seems to be the source of a lot of the problems. This is Helene. Let's get you up here. I want you guys on the restream too.

See if I can get some. See if you can bring that guy back up if he tries again. I will do that. I will do that. Winston, I'll try to bring you back. Dr. Malone is a good source for truth. Mandatory shot. Okay, okay guys you're just sort of half sentences on the restream go ahead helene what's going on

how are they doing over at rumble susan always chilling okay good i'm always afraid to go in there for fear of the the trolling well i only have one there, but they're perhaps handling it. Elaine, what's going on? I have a question. Yes, ma'am. I have not taken the vaccine by choice.

I don't want to have it. And my family has ostracized me for it, claiming that I am putting them all at risk. I am going to make them all sick. And they will not, my mother specifically, does not want me around her. And so I'm wondering, what do we do with, what do we do in situations like this how do we how do we circumvent this kind of

trouble because she's she's stuck in she's stuck in 2020 and 2020 absolutely refuses to see any new data any new information because if it wasn't said by Dr. Fauci and it was not publicized on CNN, it is absolutely false news to her. And I'm struggling with, I'm struggling with this because- Can you lie? No, I wouldn't do that. Can you just make a little white lie and say, oh, I got it? No, they know.

I know. There's a huge reveal on Susan's psyche there. I'm just kidding. No, no, it's not. But I got COVID. Okay. I got COVID from a vaccinated person at work. I brought it home.

And I, like anybody, i shared it with my daughter and so she had to have be vaccinated because of the because of school and by the way in reference to the definition of vaccinated i don't like this this is not a vaccine the vaccine i'm 56 years old and i grew up understanding that a vaccine is exactly what you read and you described in Webster's dictionary. This is not a vaccine. This is a shot. Just like the flu shot is a shot. And my mom got COVID from my daughter who's completely vaxxed. But she's convinced. So your mom already had COVID. Your mom's also had COVID?

Yeah. How'd she do with it? My mom, she did it fine. She's 84 and she did fine with it. Did she get alpha or delta or was it Omicron? I, well she got it recently. So I would imagine so Omicron is much milder and she's

all vaxxed up right right so tell her your vaccine you're good your vaccine's all great you're fine you're good the vaccine exactly and that's what I told her and she said I will not see you I will not be with you

you have facts. It's so sad what we've done to these people. Yes. So when will mainstream media get their head out of their ass and finally

come back to this? She went to CNN. You said, I don't know if that'll be it. Yeah. You may be waiting a long time you still love cnn but fauci might adjust course i could see him uh potentially potentially getting things a little squared but i don't know i don't know i listen that's why we're having these conversations we're trying to understand what the other side is thinking we're trying to understand what the other side is thinking. We're trying to understand why people have to be destroyed for exactly what you're advocating, your personal choice, your risk factors, your making a decision, a medical decision, what to do with your own body. And there's great evidence that your transmissibility is no different whether you're vaxxed or not. And yet there's…

They need a new vaccine that stops the transmission all the way. There won't be. And there won't be. And my mantra, Dr. Drew, my mantra has been, you cannot out-vax a respiratory virus ever. That's what the history of our relationship with respiratory viruses would suggest. You can't prevent them. You can't outmaneuver them. And you can prevent the complications of them by various means.

You can protect risk people, but that's about it. Are you a physician yourself? No, but I actually got medically trained in ultrasound. But I have a lot of common sense. And I refuse to get the shots because I would rather get the virus. And I got the virus. And I got the virus in January. And when my daughter brought it to my uncle's funeral in August, she gave it, she was, she was very generous and gave it around to her sister who was, who had the vaccine, my other daughter. So my number one and number three children

got it together, vaccinated. My number two got it with me in January. And my mom got it, and my mom got it from September two from, from from my daughter my oldest one maybe i'm going to recommend a podcast to you called you are not so smart it's about how to persuade people who hold irrational ideas essentially that's what it's about uh and you might be able to move her a little bit using some of the techniques that he's suggesting. Essentially, what he's saying is that you… Oh, did you put it on? I'm driving, so did you put it on the… Yeah.

Okay, put it up there so I can get it. It's up. I hear a blinker going on. I know, we hear your blinker. Waiting to turn left. Oh, sorry. Waiting to turn left. I'm turning left.

I'm hands-free, just in case there's any cops out there. You're using your blinker, which is the correct thing to do. So he would say that it's not just the particular issue in question. It's their tribe that they identify with. It's their worldview. It's about who they trust and distrust. So there's so many other elements in it. So what you might do is go down the path with her of,

so you're vaxxed and you've had Omicron. Why do you worry about any future infections? You've done what Dr. Fauci told you. You've got the whole virus in your system. Dr. Fauci says that that will give you six months of immunity. Why do you doubt him? And see if that goes anywhere. She hung up on me.

You tried that? You tried it? Well, I tried with, you know, Mom, there's brand new information. They know more now than they did in 2020. No, no, no, no, no, no. You have to come from her tribe. You have to say, I just heard Dr. Fci saying that after Omicron, you have six months of immunity. And good that you followed Dr. Fauci, because it is good that she got

vaccinated. She's in a group that can benefit from the vaccine. But why don't you accept Dr. Fauci's assessment that after the vaccine and after Omicron, you're immune? You're not at risk for infection. Why don't you accept what he's telling you and see if that goes anywhere? I can try it, but I can tell you, no. I know. I know. She's destroyed.

The media has destroyed her. Media has destroyed your mom, and I'm really sorry for that. But try that podcast and see if that gets you anywhere because, you know, it's interesting to use those techniques. I'm sorry, Elaine, I've got to move on here. And this is, where did he go? This is, I'm going to try Winston again, see if we can get him back. Give him a sec. There you are.

Thanks for getting back to me. Yes. Better. Yeah, so kind of a summation of my question. I talk about the lipid nanoparticles, Yeah. and the bio-distribution, I, you know, basically, for those that don't know,

as I understand it, not being a doctor, being a moron, if you get a flu shot, majority of it stays in the injection site with maybe 20% leakage, as I understand it, with these mRNA vaccines, we're seeing the inverse of that. Right, it goes everywhere. Where it yeah we're seeing the inverse of that right it goes all over the body yeah now when this was first kind of being there there was a lot of

questions like no that's that doesn't work that's not how i know no no no no from mainstream medicine obviously the mainstream media being locked up with kind of whatever the narrative was at the time but i read the pfizer biotech studies yeah i mean i was down the rabbit hole on this one and uh reading their studies they call it out specifically and no one's heard to say my distribution this surprised us we we were unaware this would happen so i looked into the history of the lpn and they were invented in 2018 as a drug delivery system. So my question is, when we know that the science,

it just seems so on its face that, okay, so the thing that you invented to go all over the human body is in fact going all over the human body. And you're suddenly surprised by this? I don't know what to make of that. I'm not surprised it goes everywhere. It's a membrane shell.

It goes everywhere. Lipids are, you know, our body is highly lipophilic. I also am not worried about that because those sorts of shells, those lipid shells are created by the body. I don't know that this would necessarily cause any harm.

I'm more worried about the spike protein and the inflammatory reactions it seems to be mediating. So I don't know. I don't know yet. So let's all just keep our eye on whether any specific evidence of pathology develops from this massive distribution of the lipid shells. Does that make sense? Yeah, I guess I'm just kind of concerned because looking at it it sounded

like a lot of people were saying well this is an issue you know specifically the blood brain barrier um and i'm wondering if you know of any way again back to the original you know conception of the lpns like is there a way to alter them where they don't do that i are they trying you're you're you're way out of my league with that question. I do believe there was a time they were talking about or trying to figure out how to use them in highly directed ways, like how to get them into a tumor, how to get them into a lung, how to get them into specific tissue. But that's all I know. I just know that that was something that was

discussed at one time. Whether or not that was a reality or not i don't know uh and so yeah let's just keep our eye on it just lipid membrane bilayer lipid membranes are everywhere in the body so it just seems to me it's going to incorporate itself into the general system and not really do anything i don't see where it seems inert to me it's like it's like a soap bubble sort of and I don't see where it seems inert to me. It's like, it's like a soap bubble sort of, and I don't see where it, you know, the way they coalesce and form. And if I don't know what that's going to do, I don't know, but we don't know. So I'm happy to keep, keep an eye on it. Uh, Caleb, I think I'm going to have to wrap up here, guys. I know you're still got a lot of hands up and I appreciate all the questions. And of course, those of you that sit quietly and listen to our conversation, we appreciate

that as well. Those of you over on Restream, I'm taking a good glimpse over there. I want to point out again, for some reason, I'm thinking about Dr. John Campbell, who's been on fire lately. He is so funny. Oh my God, is he upset about all this stuff? And the fact that he can't talk about it openly without risk of being taken off YouTube or canceled, that's the part that bothers him.

So he's showing recordings. It's painful. I mean, he's had huge followings. He's hard to get. We tried to get him. He didn't accept our reach out. But to have your business or what you do just completely silenced, it's painful. Yeah, it's difficult.

You know, and you're just like, what? Especially when, I got to tell you, when you're out just trying to do good and you get attacked. Yeah. It's a very unpleasant feeling. Because you use the word ivermectin. Sorry. You can't use that word. You can't use that word.

The I word or the H word? We had it for so long,'re like immune to it now but if you've been listening to this whole uh stream early on i showed the video of the pfizer representative identifying before um before the eu and the representative from the eu council went off saying this is terrible this is criminal this is and dr dr campbell just goes now uh because of youtube policy i would never say something like this. So this is strictly the opinion of this representative from the parliament. Understand it is his opinion, not mine.

I have nothing like that I wish to say. But please do listen to his opinion because that's his opinion. And if that were my opinion, I would get canceled from YouTube. This is so ironic and sardonic in the way he presents it. It's just ridiculous. Look at Rumble. You have a question over there it. It's just ridiculous. Look at Rumble. You have a question over there. Okay.

From Rumble. Reticuli. Oh, reticuli. What does that mean? Reticuli is sort of just like a reticulum. There's an endoplasmic reticulum. I think of it as just a description of a network, of a net. How do you fix your post-COVID tinnitus?

Is that the question? And what do you think of? Finasteride for post-COVID hair loss. So I don't know about, there's data, so Propecia is finasteride. I don't know that there is necessarily data on that. But it is excellent for male pattern hair loss. I don't know that the hair loss from COVID is necessarily data on that so but it is excellent for male pattern hair loss i don't know that the the hair loss from covet is necessarily that it might be something called telogen effluvian where the hair just times together and it comes back on its own anyway

but if you have any thinning uh it it will uh give you it will help you with with the hair restoration what is that finasteride whichide, which is Propecia. I didn't know you could get hair loss from COVID. Yeah. And Propecia can cause a drop in your libido. And in a significant percentage of people that experience that drop in libido, that drop can be permanent. So that's the dreaded side effect of Propecia.

Propecia also has the advantage maybe of reducing the risk of prostate cancer. So there's risks and benefits. Like everything in medicine, risk benefits. You need to assess that with your doctor. You could also use a just plain old Rogaine. I'm using that now. Yeah. And it's helping.

And how did I fix my post-COVID tinnitus? It was really bad the first couple weeks. And Fluvoxamine helped it a lot. I'm also using GenuCell. Fluvoxamine continued to help. And then when I stopped the fluvoxamine, it sort of stuck with me for about a year and a half and then just went away on its own.

Caleb's going to show a testimonial on the GenuCell. I do. Now I use my GenuCell and I use my, my every day. This was a really nice testimonial. I am from Lynn. You want to read it? Go ahead, Susan.

I'm a big fan of every product I've tried. The newest to try was the Hyaluronic Acid Serum. Surprised by the oily consistency, but it spreads evenly and absorbed quickly. Feel like my skin is getting renewed it's like a magic eraser loving it so far hoping to keep the results with every use then to top it off with the genu cell xv and i'm gonna say i use hyaluronic acid because it's it's a water-based thing and it gives your skin moisture and there is a a lignatic acid, I guess, in there too, so it makes it soak in faster.

Lignatic. And then you put the cream on top, so you have to layer it. And I do that too. I do that at night, and then I use the serum during the day. Susan is what you call it. You put a little bit, or at night use the retinol with the hyaluronic acid in the morning. Use the C serum with the XB.

That works too. But we have these packages. You can get them in these packages and get like four or five things all together and try them out. All right. And it's really cheap. Caleb, anything else before I wrap things up here?

No, it's all good. I'm excited for next week's show. We have Dr. B'nai Prasad coming up on the 19th with Dr. Kelly Victory. That's going to be very interesting. He's very good. Vinay is amazing. He was on dose of Dr. Drew back in the day. Yes, he was.

All these people who were on our show at the beginning. Maybe we can get Justin Hart back in here. I want Z-Dog too. Yeah, he's been pretty busy. It's hard to get a hold of him. However, you guys, we can take calls next week too. We have a couple of a couple open days we have people we're trying to get tulsi gabbard in here she uh contacted me and wants to call you all and so we'll see she does we'll see what she has reached out maybe she's seeing what we're talking about and is she's uh ready to get behind it you

know i one of the things i got from talking to dr m Dr. McDonald today was that we live in a time of fetishization of safety, of succumbing to fear. And we need courage. Courage is something in very short supply. People need to be courageous today. I was just thinking about this. Somebody called me when I was doing the Adam and Drew show, and he got to hear about the head injury controversy for Mr. Atulalola, whatever his name was, when he got a concussion, and Chris Nowitzki went crazy. And yes, these are very serious concerns.

But they're playing in the NFL. They get injured. I think we need to get rid of a military because people might get hurt if they join the military. It's the same logic. Are we going to eliminate a military because people might get hurt if they join the military. It's the same logic. Are we going to eliminate our military because somebody might get hurt? I mean, this is so crazy. We've gotten into this world of denial of death, denial of the biological.

It is time to come to terms with the fact of who we are as human beings and show a little bit of courage and stand up and move forward. That's what we need right now. And I think the nuclear threat fromin realigned things a little bit people started thinking about what real threats are and what i he also dr mcdonald's pointing out to me that in parts of europe like you know kosovo and serbia places like that that had war they did not think so much of this virus they'd seen real threat real death and they were not so worried about this one. And maybe we can get sort of realigned again and get ourselves back on track. That would be nice. All right, I'll end with that.

And we'll see you guys on Tuesday at 3 o'clock Pacific time. Don't forget After Dark, Dr. Drew Podcast. We have some interesting guests over there. Michael Malice right now at the Dr. Drew Podcast. I think you might enjoy him. Very interesting dude. We'll see you all next Tuesday at 3 o'clock. Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Caleb Nation and Susan Pinsky.

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