Ask Dr. Drew - Proof Government Lab Created COVID, Says Escaped Chinese Virologist Dr. Li-Meng Yan – Ask Dr. Drew – Episode 168

Episode Date: January 16, 2023

Dr. Li-Meng Yan (AKA Dr. Yan Limeng, 闫丽梦 or 閆麗夢) is a Chinese virologist who fled to the United States after alleging that COVID-19 was created in a Chinese government lab. Dr. Yan says the Chinese Communist Party and the World Health Organization (WHO) were aware of the risks of COVID transmission long before they revealed it publicly. She alleges that both organizations have taken part in organized suppression of her research. ABOUT DR. LI-MENG YAN Dr. Li-Meng Yan is a Chinese virologist known for her publications and interviews alleging that SARS-CoV-2 was made in a Chinese government laboratory. She came to the United States in 2020, where she has co-authored several preprint research papers. Follow Dr. Yan at twitter.com/DrLiMengYAN1 and listen to her show “The Voice of Dr. Yan” on America Out Loud Radio Network at americaoutloud.com/voice-of-dr-yan/. 「 SPONSORED BY 」 • BIRCH GOLD - Don’t let your savings lose value. You can own physical gold and silver in a tax-sheltered retirement account, and Birch Gold will help you do it. Claim your free, no obligation info kit from Birch Gold at https://birchgold.com/drew • GENUCEL - Using a proprietary base formulated by a pharmacist, Genucel has created skincare that can dramatically improve the appearance of facial redness and under-eye puffiness. Genucel uses clinical levels of botanical extracts in their cruelty-free, natural, made-in-the-USA line of products. Get 10% off with promo code DREW at https://genucel.com/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 The CDC states that COVID-19 vaccines are safe, effective, and reduce your risk of severe illness. Hundreds of millions of people have received a COVID-19 vaccine, and serious adverse reactions are uncommon. Dr. Drew is a board-certified physician and Dr. Kelly Victory is a board-certified emergency specialist. Portions of this program will examine countervailing views on important medical issues. You should always consult your personal physician before making any decisions about your health.  「 ABOUT the SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. 「 GEAR PROVIDED BY 」 • BLUE MICS - Find your best sound at https://drdrew.com/blue • ELGATO - See how Elgato's lights transformed Dr. Drew's set: https://drdrew.com/sponsors/elgato/ 「 ABOUT DR. DREW 」 For over 30 years, Dr. Drew has answered questions and offered guidance to millions through popular shows like Celebrity Rehab (VH1), Dr. Drew On Call (HLN), Teen Mom OG (MTV), and the iconic radio show Loveline. Now, Dr. Drew is opening his phone lines to the world by streaming LIVE from his home studio. Watch all of Dr. Drew's latest shows at https://drdrew.tv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Very interesting conversation with Dr. Li Mengyan. She's a Chinese virologist known for her publication and interviews where she describes some, I believe, firsthand observations of the behavior of the Chinese government that should be of concern to most people. Again, she is a virologist. She works in a virology lab

and did so in China as well. I've heard her on Twitter spaces before and became intrigued, and so I thought it'd be really interesting to hear her story. Susan has been very concerned about this topic since the early days of the pandemic, and I thought this would be a great source to try to, I'm not saying I'm going to set the record straight, but let's just see what a good source has to tell us. So let's get right to it. treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals, but just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Loveline all the time, educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat. If you have trouble, you can't stop and you want to help stop it,

I can help. I got a lot to say. I got a in addition to being a whistleblower, has a, I think it's a radio show, The Voice of Dr. Yen, Y-A-N, it's spelled, on America Out Loud Radio Network, America Out Loud Radio Network, that is broadcast weekly, Saturday and Sunday at 9 a.m. and 4 p.m. Eastern Time. That is at AmericaOutloud.com.

So it's sort of a podcast. And Susan, this is something that had been of concern and interest to you for quite some time, right? Yes. Yes, and she's been reading. She's been diligently reading. Well, not diligently, but I was a history major at UCLA, and I found Chinese history to be really interesting.

It was probably one of the hardest subjects I ever studied and I always did poorly, but I kept taking the classes because I wanted to understand more. Still don't understand it. But what I do take away is that for many, many years they've been aggressive towards their people and it's just, you know, they know, they want power in the hands of very few. And I think economically, you know, we were sort of, as Americans, we were, you know, in their clutches. They've, you know, had most of our industry there. And now we're seeing the repercussions of what it's like to be dominated by them. I mean, the economy is going down, people are dying, and now more people are dying in China. It just, to me, it's really interesting because I don't understand why people want to be communist. You know, like, that's just not my thing.

I study Russian history, too. Never really got it, but I'm hoping that the Chinese people can have a voice like Dr. Yan. I think it's important and anything that happened that we need to know, we should know and it shouldn't be hidden. Let's start there. Please welcome Dr. Li Meng-Yan. There you are. Thank you and welcome. Uh-oh, no sound. Hello, can you hear me?

There you are. We got you now. There you go. Excellent. We have you now. So I have just some basic questions. Where was your training and what was your training in? Okay, I was trained as a medical doctor in China from two top medical universities. And then I, because I want to do research, so I moved to the University of Hong Kong to pursue the research. And since I stayed in Hong Kong in the last five years before I came to the United States, I moved into the virology lab that is a WHO reference lab, also the state K emerging infectious disease lab. So I was trained there as a postdoc, also as a virologist, and my focus is on immunology and vaccines. And were you, what kind of projects, were there any projects underway that

that concerned you while you were there? When I was there, I usually did influenza vaccine development. I own my own vaccine patent, which is pending in the United States. And also, before I leave, because that was, there was over three months

of the outbreak at that time. I leave in April of 2020. So before that, I also published two COVID-19 virus research. And then one is published on Lansat infectious disease, which tells people the viral load can predict the severity of the disease. And also the second one is I'm the co-author of Nature Magazine, and that is the first article to tell people the high transmissibility and using the proper animal model, hamster. High transmissibility of COVID-19 or just of coronavirus generally?

You were working with something called COVID-19? SARS-CoV-2, because we got the SARS-CoV-2 virus isolated and also amplified in our lab since end of January 2020. After that, we used it to do a lot of experiments in the DSL-3 lab and then published that as one of my papers. And since I left, they removed my paper from other articles. And what was the intent of your research? Why were you going down that path?

What problem was that going to solve in your mind? Do you mean the investigation of COVID or you mean the whole my research background? The COVID. What do research background? The COVID. What do you mean? The COVID. Actually, when I started the COVID, that is the secret investigation, the confidential investigation, which is not as published as I told.

So back to 31st of December 2019, I was asked by my supervisor, WHO expert, Prof. Liu Peng in the University of Hong Kong, to do the research based on my own network in mainland China about the novel coronavirus in Wuhan. And I used my own network involving the laboratories, hospitals, and even the military labs to show that actually the thing is getting worse and worse in China and the government was hiding the facts. And after that, the thing got changed because first I was warned not to tell anything, to keep silent. If not, I will be disappeared if I cross the Red Line. And also, I say the WHO experts, my boss and my big boss, Malik Peris, all of them, although they

have, this is their responsibility in the reference lab to tell the, report the situation to WHO for the region of the public health crisis within 24 hours. However, they all turned to help China to cover it up. So that's why based on my investigation, when I got more and more stunning evidence, I can't wait. And finally, I decided to deliver this message to a famous anti-CCP YouTube blogger based in New York who's speaking Chinese. And I came to release this information to warn China to stop it, to control the things as soon as possible. And that's basically the beginning of my story.

And so who was the individual that came to you and said, you're going to be disappeared if you talk who delivers and and that's some that's another doctor at the hospital or that's a virology lab director and why why is he who is giving him that directive who's telling him that he he didn't tell me who gave him but I'm sure that comes from his experience. So he is my boss. Actually, I respect him very much when I was in Hong Kong U. I worked with him for five years.

Dr. Liu Peng, he's still a very famous WHO expert because of his work, his achievement even from SAS 1 period back to 2003. And when he told me that you have to keep silence, I asked him, why do you want me to do that? And he said, because China government won't let any of us, he means Hong Kong experts, to know the fact. And you only can know the things from official sources and he also added that oh i don't think i don't want it uh it would be like what happened during sas one and the later when

i report him the things i remember he also told me oh come on they did the same thing as what they have done in SARS-1. So, you know, in SARS-1, they cover it up. Why do they? So tell me what you thought was happening in China and what the official story was. And why was it important in their minds to cover it up, do you think? Briefly, now I can tell you that when they need to cover it, they definitely have a special purpose. For Chinese Communist Party, because I was born

there and grew up to almost 30 years old, so I can tell you when they try to cover it up, that's for their one thing is for their stability. That means they have to control the citizens. And another thing is for their stability. That means they have to control the citizens. And another thing is they have other strategy against the foreign countries,

especially like America is always listed as a primary enemy in CCP's documents. So the thing is when the whole outbreak happened, now we go back to say China cover it up and China lied to everyone about the origin and China suppress all the whistleblowers. The thing is, at that time, they don't want you to be aware of the whole outbreak. And later when I warned that through the media, through the media to Chinese people that this is actually already become a big crisis and if you don't control it on time then this will be bigger outbreak and even pandemic. CCP really has done some response

because I listed the real backbone of the SARS-CoV-2. I also talked about some of the top secret which based on my investigation. So they thought someone knows that they have to change, but what is they change? They just admit it's human to human transmission, they increase the patient's number for triple and then they lock down. But they intentionally allow some people who may be very innocent to carry the virus out of China, and the virus was spread all over the world and become the pandemic. And after that, you see China government celebrates the COVID trophy. All these kind of top scientists from military or civilian labs, including my previous lab in Hong Kong, the top ones get awards because they are involved into the development of

this virus, all they get into the cover-up as an academic fabrication altogether. So the thing is now you will see that when we go back to the real origin of COVID-19 virus, we will see that based on evidence I will explain to you, it was made in military labs and also it is a product of the military civil fusion project, which is actually a novel bioweapon. I call it an unrestricted bioweapon. So as a weapon, it has special purpose, and that's why China government has to hide the top secret, especially when it creates such casualties. Okay, so a couple of questions.

One of the things that struck me when the outbreak occurred in Wuhan, that we suddenly see trucks rolling down the street, spraying some disinfectant on the streets. Seems completely ludicrous. Men in white suits running around, tackling people and things. At very minimum, I'm wondering what that was, first of all. What were we looking at there? What do you think that was?

We called those people in white PPE as big white. And that is kind of people composed of the medical staff and also volunteers actually come and recruited and pay them, and also the power enforcement teams. So those are the people who conducted different tasks, including disinfect the city because China was claiming the zero COVID policy. They claimed that they will eliminate even the master one virus in the city. And also they have another very important task. You're laughing. You're laughing.

And I would laugh too, because that's a silly thing to say, but it did not look like medical procedures. To me, it looked like showboating for political purposes. Is that what that is? It's more about political purpose. It shows to you that they're busy.

And also, that makes profits because all these people, they will get the taxpayers' money to do these jobs. It's not for free. Taxpayers pay them. And also, because this is CCP's policy from Xi Jinping, so if you know the Chinese history back to Chairman Mao's period, they are going to kill the four harmful creatures, including the rat. So how could you kill all the rats in the country? But that's a similar thing repeated here now. That is clearly for political purpose.

And also, as I said, the most important thing for them to do is to control people because they give people the digital control system on their phone. You can even not go out of your apartment without this kind of traffic light code. And those people are helping government to control you. That is most important. And also, as I told you, for CCP, what they care most domestically is how to control people efficiently. Were you part of the Communist Party when you were there?

No, I'm not a Communist Party member. I'm just, that was a serious question. Is it funny? I would think a doctor or somebody like that would be somebody likely to be in the party, no? First, I mean, I have to tell you that I rejected many opportunities to

join this party, because one thing I really don't understand is, although we were brainwashed from our maybe baby time listening to this kind of song. They tell you CCP equal to mom, mom equal to the best one. So when you love your mom, you should love CCP. However, when you grow up, when they pick the elite people to be the CCP member. I just don't understand how could people change the communism? Because from the things I learned,

they said that is a wonderful heaven-like world. Everyone share the things to each other. But when I was a student, I see my classmates even won't share me his pencil. How could I imagine a place that everyone share everything, happily live together? And one thing is, one time when they asked me whether I want to draw it, I just asked a question to that classmate who is a member.

I said, if I draw it, how could I quit it? And they were so shocked. They said, how could everyone ask something? You can never quit it. Why do you want to quit it? And they were so shocked. They said, how could everyone ask something? You can never quit it. Why do you want to quit it? And then I just felt something wrong. If I was going to join some party, but I cannot choose to quit it, it sounds more like the gun. So that's why I realized I can't be a member. I'm with her. I know.

We're getting quite a case built here. You've mentioned how this was this zero COVID policy. You laughed at it, and so did I. We talked about how the procedures they were taking had no medical purpose to them. They were strictly political. How is it that our public health figures sent experts over to China and were persuaded by the Chinese teams that they actually had achieved zero COVID doing things that were silly? How did we fall victim to that? What do you think happened there? I mean, the thing is, China don't want

to get suggestions from your expert. And even according to Xi Jinping, he won't promote his policies, his thought, all over the world. So that's why in China, I mean, communist country has very strict structure.

It's a many-easter organization. You listen to your boss and you do everything the party want you to do. Have to show your lawyer even it's a very anti-human actions. So the thing is, everyone now have to show their loyalty to Xi Jinping. If they dare to admit there's any problem in the zero COVID policy, that would make Xi Jinping lose his face. And that will be the biggest problem for these officials or experts. So the thing is, in China, we all know CCP members know they are lying. And we know they are lying.

And they know we know they are lying. But it know they are lying, and they know we know they are lying, but it doesn't matter. But why didn't we know? Why couldn't we say they were lying? I was watching videos from thousands of miles away, and I could tell they were lying. Why couldn't our health officials understand they were being lied to? If your health officials don't compromise with them, I'm worried that they may have no chance to go back to your country and the thing is initially if they show that they are so suspicious they won't get a visa to go to china but they came back with enthusiasm about the chinese policies and adopted the policies completely. How they could not have seen through that is mind-boggling.

It's just beyond me that they could not have seen that they were actualizing policies that had no basis in the history of medicine anywhere, in the history of medicine. And suddenly they've decided that Xi Jinping's policies are magic and are going to cure the world and they foisted it on the whole world yeah that's something also make me shocked because these people basically learned all the things from China in a very good CCP style and I know that they're compromised and also I know China can stretch them or manipulate that. But what I have to tell you is the CCP Xi Jinping system really gave more benefits to the authorities,

to certain experts, to the top people who have powers. So these people, they realized, aha, that would be a perfect system we want to adopt into our country because that makes us, from the common official, suddenly become a king of a lot of slaves. So that is a fact. They know what they can get. When they work with China, they get a lot of benefits. When they learn from China, they get more benefits from your society. And the thing is, your society, for example, America, is very domestic. And it takes time for people to realize this is something wrong. And also people will discuss and find a way and maybe a new bill and then change the whole thing. But if you learn from China, you see, everything

Xi Jinping said, he said zero COVID, it was strict zero COVID. He said open aid, the whole country reopened. So this kind of quick change is so efficient for them. This can bring a lot of wealth or other benefits behind the aid. And this can be a very good way to further control your society. So they don't mind to adapt it starting from the health system and little by little even to your government. Like I say now,

they learn not only health promises from China, they also learn how to control the speech freedom and also they learn how to control the free of the speech freedom. And also they learn how to control other people. They even want to promote this kind of traffic like credit code in many countries like Australia. So many things they are learning from China. Does that surprise you that these really, you called them, I think, non-human or inhuman policies are not humane maybe or certainly not humanitarian policies of the chinese government are being so widely distributed and and let me ask on top of that it seems like the people here are continuing to suppress you. The people that have taken and adopted some of these crazy policies now are going to behave like the CCP and suppress you here in America.

Is that happening? Yes, it keeps happening. And also not only from America, but also from other countries. I know the interview I gave sometimes just pull out of like today. I know one YouTube channel was told to remove my interview just because I told Chinese people when now China is lack of medicines, the government suppress the medicine. So you can try to manage to find your own drugs like hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin to save your lives.

Then this is pulled out from YouTube China. So this kind of suppression is what I told you, disappear. This is a type of disappear. People don't know me. Whatever I tell you, you cannot hear. Or they try to convince you I'm a liar, or I'm just a conspiracist, then that will destroy my credits.

The thing is, I have destroyed many people's benefits, and especially CCP. That is the second biggest economic organization in the world. So it has a lot of power to influence and manipulate media. And so they have already done it in the US for decades. So I'm shocked, but I know that would happen before CCP is removed. This will not only happen to me, it will happen to you, it will happen to our audience as long as you won't resist. That's why when Susan initially tells that she doesn't understand why CCP can let people

stay there and people kind of accept this kind of system, it's not because people accept it. One thing is people are brainwashed. And the other thing is government put super power to control you, surveillance you, and disappear you once you wake up. I agree. I'm going to ask Susan to. No, I know that they don't want to be in this situation. And why they are is because they've been in for so many years and they've they learned to you know live like it's like cuba when you go to cuba they they're used to communism there and but but what i am surprised is that america wanted to be communistic

and go with that type of shock and non-medical that's the thing that that's blowing my mind and i knew it from the beginning these are non-medical interventions they i could see it from the beginning nowhere in the history of medicine we ever done anything like that and the first place you saw it was in wuhan they were doing it there now it turns out we have actual documentation that dr fauci sent a team over there that team was convinced came back with glowing reports and we adopted it and we influenced the rest of the world that is this it is mind-blowing and they're and they're really good at the system like the system of making people believe things are true that aren't coming from china like they got into our media they got into they got in our heads it was

it's very impressive yeah very impressive well we're going to talk about all that let me ask this before we're going to get after the break we're going to get into what your theory is about the origins of the virus and we'll get into some of the weeds of that and uh you've mentioned it specifically as a bioweapon and i want to hear some evidence for that but let me ask you this question before we go to break what's motivating motivating you? Why are you doing this? If anybody were suspicious about your motives, like if somebody were to go, hey, what's she doing? Why is she doing this?

How would you answer them to persuade them that you have some specific motivation or goal in mind by being so outspoken? I don't want to persuade anyone. Just because I'm a doctor, I'm a virologist, when I see what happened in Wuhan, when I know it's through my investigation, I know I can't wait.

And if I don't tell anything when the pandemic, when this kind of disaster happens, I will be guilty for my whole life. That's my motive. That's where it started, though. What are you doing now? Now I keep telling first that the people need to

know it because Chinese Communist Party has studied your society very well, even in their documented articles. They have analyzed that in the U.S., this system, once you want their documented articles, they have analyzed that in the US, this system, once you want to do something, people have to, majority of people have to accept it. So CCP try to use many of the fake theories to blind you, to block you to understand the real

origin of COVID-19. Then you won't ask your government to hold the Chinese Communist Party accountable. So I have to fight against all these false theories and I have to let people know the real origin of COVID, not only public but also the intelligence community and legislators. And also based on this pandemic, China has moved forward. They become more and more aggressive. And so that's why, because I have established the credibility in China, so we got a lot of Chinese sources. They deliver even the top military intelligence to us because they trust us, that they know we will send it to America. People are releasing it to the American media and we have done that. So that's why we keep

working with the network in China and also provide the update of the top intelligence for you to understand what Xi Jinping want to do and you can prevent it in advance. Are you scared? Scared won't help. So usually I don't feel scared. The thing is sometimes I will. Are you fearful for your family or do you leave anybody behind? I leave my parents. I leave my grandparents. I leave all the relatives in China. And they are all controlled by CCP.

The moment I escaped from Hong Kong, I have no idea. I only can cut off my connections. And I know they use my husband as the tool to hunt me in the United States. This is also very typical CCP style. They called it a fox hunt operation. So I don't feel fear. I will pray for my family. But, you know, fear won't help me to do these things.

Only I can pray that we can remove this regime as soon as possible. Then people will get free. And for me, sometimes I would be a little bit nervous because I would feel that CCP is too cunning if I don't do more. So maybe they will have more chance to cheat the world and achieve their goals.

So these are the things usually I fail. Are you a freedom fighter? I think so, because the ultimate goal I'm fighting for now is for the freedom for Chinese people. And also we know once Chinese people have no freedom. US, I mean, Americans will lose their freedom soon because this is a pretty aggressive regime. They will approach to you. What led to this change of heart as you grew up?

How did you come to this place of being a freedom fighter do you think i did i never planned that before i escaped my plan is how to finish my job well get good publication and become maybe assistant professor finally professor uh maybe just in the University of Hong Kong. I love Hong Kong. But the thing was changed from 2019. CCP government destroyed Hong Kong, the place I love so much, the place

I become citizens there. And that totally, I mean, make me wake up, you know. For the Chinese people, even if you just want to stay in Hong Kong, I mean, you give, compared to America, already lack of freedom and democracy, but government still won't allow you to have this kind of peace. They just want to grab you and control you all.

And so I see a lot of brave people, they fight for freedom, fight for the security in Hong Kong. And so I really get inspired. And later, when I see the virus and when I did this investigation, I just felt, yeah, now I already know the evilness of CCP. And now I also know the truth of this outbreak, of this virus outbreak. And it's my time. I have to do something to change it.

Do you have a supportive network of Hong Kong freedom fighters that support you here? Oh, no, no. I was just a, I'm just, how to say, I'm the single investigator based in Hong Kong at that time to do this. And also, before I came to U.S., I don't think, except for CCP's network, I don't think anyone else in Hong Kong know what I have done. Okay. So we're going to take a little break. Susan, when we come back, I'm going to give you a chance to talk to Dr. Yen for a second, and then we're going to get into the— Oh, really?

Well, I want you to— Everybody is crying in the crowd. It's pretty intense. They love her story. It's pretty intense. And the fact—are intelligence—are American intelligence officials—you probably can't say yes or no, but I'll ask it—are they talking to you? Many. Okay. Uh-oh. Okay, good. they talking to you many okay okay okay good yeah many are many intelligence officers are talking to

you yes many many many good okay good okay well that's good um that's what you said yeah i want to make sure that's what's happening because if not we need to help her talk to some people um okay so we'll take a little break uh and then i'll give susan a chance to see what has boiled up bubbled up for her as a result i'm good i think you might want to take calls too because somebody out there is probably going to be very interested well it's going to take we still have a big story to tell them where this thing came from so take a break be right back jenny sale has so many products that Susan and I love. Their XV Moisturizer locks in moisture, making dry spots a thing of the past, which is especially great with the colder weather,

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There we are. So let's talk about the virus itself. Now, you said you have a story to tell about where it came from what it is why it was designed who designed it and what's up next so i'll let you start yeah so this is a long theory and because this includes a lot of intelligence and scientific smoking gun evidence. So briefly, I would say that if you want to know the detail, please check my three-year reports, which is a pinned tweet on my Twitter account. And I published them on Zinado since

September 2020 to March 2021 with several other very good scientists. And what I can briefly let you know is the whole story is actually just CCP and especially when Xi Jinping became the chairman since 2012, they developed the bioweapon and they put it as center of the Chinese national strategy. So basically, there is a document written by the PLA generals talking about Xi Jinping raised up the 11 factors of the national strategy and 10 of them related to the bioweapon. Actually, they called it as biosecurity. And then another one is nuclear weapons. So they said nuclear weapons can

be used to guarantee your bioweapon program. And they use all these kind of fancy words to package all the things they are going to do. And also since 2012, everything become accelerating. And also Xi Jinping asked his team to reorganize the whole structure. Then the whole system become initially military-civilian fusion and then become military dominant. Finally, it's very efficient for them to get the novel bioweapons. And in this bioweapon system, there is a very good candidate is coronavirus because based on CCP's study in 2015, you may heard about one book named SARS-CoV-1, non-nature origin, and the novel genetic bioweapon against the human. That was first reviewed by my team and cited in my third year report.

In that book, the bioweapon general said they believe even SARS-CoV-1 was not from nature. And also the coronavirus is a very good candidate for the next generation of bioweapon. And why this is good? Because this bioweapon can carry different functions and also the best thing is this won't be a traditional bioweapon. For example, if you give anthrax and then people can quickly identify this is on the list of bioweapon, but coronavirus is not on the list of bioweapon.

And also, this can be a low death rate novel bioweapon, which means a death rate is lower than 2%. So it doesn't fit traditional concept of a weapon. It won't cause a large specialty immediately in the battlefield. But this can slowly destroy the enemy's society, especially when it gets someone hurt. For example, one patient may take three other labor force to take care of him. That means the enemy will lose four labor force immediately. And when they take over that regime,

they can still have at least three labor force for them to work. So basically, this is a continuous strategy for them. And then they also said once this kind of novel weapon based on coronavirus, they believe this will be realized by some scientists. And the scientists can say this is not from nature because they want to make it look like from nature. But they said once some certain scientists pointed out this is not from nature, then there will be a way you how they are going to develop this kind of novel bioweapon using coronavirus, the basic theory. And I define it as unrestricted bioweapon because this has no restriction of bottom

line of humanity and no restriction of their tactics. They are going to use all the method to cover it up, deny it, including the compromised scientists and the medical organizations. And also after that, I mean, not after, I mean, almost the same time, because from CCP's, during CCP before Xi Jinping, there are already this kind of study, but Xi Jinping make it

more efficient. So that's why until 2015 to 2017, one team led by PLA scientist Wang Changjun, based in East China, near Shanghai, from Nanjing Military CDC, they have checked part of the wild place in East China in Zhejiang province and they found some bat coronavirus and they named it as ZC45 and also there is a twin-like virus named JXC21, almost 99% identical. And this bat was from Zhoushan City. So they called it Zhoushan bat coronavirus, JXC45 and JXC21. And they have managed to successfully culture this virus in the labs. And then they also published some articles.

They said, hmm, this virus can potentially infect the brain of the mammal and potentially can have the outbreak risk. So basically, from that time, this was one of the best candidates for their bioweapon study. And also because for coronavirus, there are no other teams successfully get such perfect virus for the backbone. So later, this was sent to different labs. Why I said it's different labs? Because based on my scientists, we have identified different genetic evidence from different teams. That means, for example, we know about the woman Shi Zhengli

in Wuhan Institute of Virology. They have done something to modify the recent bonding domain. And also we have seen the field and clinical site that was the work involving the professor Lee Fang based in Minnesota, University of Minnesota, and his collaborators in New York blood center. And they are all the PLA-connected scientists. And also there are other parts in the entity of spike protein was modified, and which we believe that was part of work done by General Chen Wei in the Academy of Military Medical Science.

So there are so many evidence shows that they have found this kind of modification and then finally this SARS-CoV-2 virus when we saw it from Wuhan, the change is totally around 11%. And also at that time, because this is a weapon, and this is a top weapon for CCP government, you should not expect it is just put into a lab without very careful management. And actually later, even based on our intelligence, that right before the outbreak in Wuhan, there were military operations done by PLA, has their code name involved into the use of this virus. And so anyway, when we see the virus happened in Wuhan, I can tell you, I don't think this is a lab accident, because when I did my investigation, I also reached to people

who have connection in the Wuhan lab and we know that Wuhan lab was safe at that time. There was no lab accident, no one get infected in certain lab accident. They have very good function but the CCP government told them not to do much things to check the sequence of this virus because China wanted to downplay the role of that lab. And at that time during mid-December, China government already knows the sequence of this virus, but they choose to hide it. Why? Because they want to wait. First, they want to wait to see the virus,

whether they can cause a lot of damage. And also, for example, they let it happen in Wuhan and later let it go to America. But before they locked down, before they are forced to lock down, they even came to US, tell President Trump that nothing big deal, no human to human transmission in China. So that's how they intentionally hide it up. And also, it takes them time to let people little by little convinced by the nature origin theory. So that's why initially, they start to tell you this from the wet market. And also they want you to know there would be certain wild animal which is eaten by Chinese sold in the wet market and then caused the transmission. So I was the one at that time, they want to get this evidence of wild animal.

That is another story. But basically, because my lab was the lab first identified claim that seaweed cat was the nature animal host for SARS-CoV-1 in 2003. So CCP thought if it is to do the same thing this time, that will be very convincing. And my boss, Liu Peng, also came to me in mid-January. He showed me a picture, which is a small animal. He told me it is called raccoon dog. It's an animal like civic cat. And he wanted me to get him evidence that in Wuhan people eat it and sell it. However, based on my investigation,

we don't eat it and we don't sell it. So basically this story is kind of failed, but that is actually part of CCP's style to force all this narrative. And that's why later you see the day after I released the evidence of CC45 and pointed it to the PLA, within 24 hours on 20th January, that woman Shi Jianli has to quickly submit her paper, claiming that they found something called RETG-13 from West China. Because China want you to believe this is from Wuhan wet market,

to raccoon dog, and then go back to maybe some fat virus lived in West of China. Totally, I mean, opposite to where they found the real backbone of this virus. And also, if you only focus on RATJ13, that is a virus in Yanji Pulse. We already analyzed that, and this is a fake virus which doesn't exist in the nature, but totally fixed by the scientists in the lab. If you only believe on that one, then you will see only 4% difference between IITG 13 and SARS-CoV-2. Then you will ignore over 7% of modification from the laboratories. And also you will ignore the People's Liberation Army's dominant role in this whole project. And the most thing is China can claim Xi Jinping is a compromised scientist working with America.

So America founded the Wuhan lab and then America is the real reason of the development of this power weapon so that's why okay and this yeah it's very interesting that is why yes i'm following you all the way that is why i got a million i got a million questions and you've you've told the story in a very cohesive coherent manner but you're going to say that is why. I mean, that is why I keep telling people origin, and we need to know there are so many false theories outside to prevent you from the truth.

So I have a million questions, so bear with me here. Why do U.S. officials, why are they so prone to be enthusiastic about these stories that you say are being conveniently presented by the CCP? One thing is because your officials, I mean, I see investigators, they have to rely on the experts' opinions. And you know, viral homages are a very small group.

So China has already spent decades to do this kind of preparation. Before Xi Jinping, they start to prepare and Xi Jinping make it worse. The thing is the scientists can be compromised and they also know. One thing is China has found the weakness of the bioweapon convention

and also the surveillance system. And also they know that they're quite a big of the gray area for the technique development in biology. So they managed to learn your technology and they also are using this kind of academic exchange to build the relation with your scientist. Once the thing happens, your scientist definitely feel that they will be blamed for all the things. And at that time, if they work with CCP, they feel safe and they even get more benefits. That's why they choose to go to that side. That makes me surprised in the beginning of the outbreak. And is it your contention that because of this cozy relationship

between the scientist here and the scientist there, is that the gain of function research? Is that that shared gain of function research that people seem to be afraid to admit to or afraid to acknowledge or whatever is going on? It's hard to tell, but is that what you're talking about?

Something you can call the gain-of-function technology, but actually many of the things you even don't, I mean, as a virologist, I won't say these are the gain-of-function technology, but they can be used for gain-of-function weaponized virus. For example, I have known that Ralph Baric from North Carolina University of Chapel Hill, he had delivered some humanized mouse to China.

And in my end report, we have analyzed those humanized ACE2 mouse as the ones to be used to develop the affinity between human and the SARS-CoV-2 virus. However, if you just talk about the humanized mouse technology, I won't say this is bad because we do need such of the technology to develop. So let me say what that is so what you're saying is you've inserted human genes into mice including the binding site for the spike protein the ace2 receptor right and so you could get the virus into the mice and then you now my one of my questions is did they in the ways the spike protein were modified, did it have specific biological objectives? In other words, did they know they were going to create things like the cytokine storms, like the COVID

lung phenomenon? Is there something about the way the virus was altered that would predict those sorts of biological pathologies? Yes, there are. That's why I said I listed in my Yen reports, I just listed the function with smoking gun evidence. It doesn't mean that's all functions. The functions I listed involve that one is receptor-bonding domain, especially the very core part, we call it receptor- motif. That is a part for the virus to attach to human ACE2 receptors, and they managed to modify it, make it really close to the perfect structure that can bind your human ACE2 receptor very well. And also they later used the humanized ACE2 mouse to get animal

passage and that will get the virus knows in vivo how to adopt it to this kind of receptor and makes affinity even better. And also Ferencnevich site, I bet many people is familiar with this word now that is the receptor that is the section you insert it into the sascov2 spike protein and can help the virus get access to your cells make it more efficient and also there is another thing people ignore, it is E protein, the amyloprotein. That part we won't say is gain function, but I will say it maintains a function because people really don't quite understand this protein. However, based on study from my lab, we have known that during SARS-1, if you check the E protein, it's quite conserved to you. But if it's changed, even for several amino acids,

you just see the virus would lose the capacity of amplification. And that is not good for them to make it as a weapon. So that's why there is something very interesting that the E protein in this virus maintains 100% identical to the Jonsheng-Bad coronavirus, they say 45. So I believe that is because when they get the backbone, they say 45, they know this E protein could make this virus alive, could make this virus amplify well, and they don't want to lose this function after their experiment in the labs. Then they purposely maintain this function.

After they modify the other part, they just put this section back to the SARS-CoV-2. And that's why you have the virus with good amplification capacity. Yeah. So I understand what you're telling us. I have just a… You've got to explain it to the rest of us. Well, that the virus can bind very efficiently, can get into cells very efficiently, can amplify, can multiply very efficiently. And that's what determines… Viremia has some impact, meaning the amount of virus circulating has some effect on the severity of illness.

And so they could sort of predict then severity of illness. Now, one of the things that has sort of struck me is that there seems to be something about the spike protein that is causing endothelial injury and alveolar injury. And it seems like as though that is mediated by the spike protein. A, is that true? Am I correct? And B, if I am correct, what about vaccines that are built to create spike protein? How do we know how much to give somebody without that causing problem? Yeah, so first, of course, spike protein can cause different damage.

I mean, because we have learned spike protein from SARS-1, we know that SARS-1 spike protein already has the function like it can cause blood clot, cause even ADE, antibody-dependent enhancement, and many other things. And also, we have seen it in the SARSaspov2 virus uh like the anti uh like uh sorry i forget how to pronounce it the anti-sle is that kind of antibody uh which can anti-phospholipid anti-phospholipid sorry so that is the one can cause the um i can't say it in chinese so you're forgiven thank you so that can cause that also can induce also you know the coronavirus like sas1 sas2 they can cause the cytokine storm they can cause ad they can cause a lot of problem so and also there are some more problem with i

mean we don't know more function for example as i said, I didn't mention NPD part from spike protein, which is the other side opposite to RBD. So this part is changed based on our examination. The thing is, we still don't quite sure about the function. And also we know that is a part, it could be related to the bioweapon genera. And so the thing is, we still don't know how strong the damage spike protein can cause to people. Then why do we need to put it to vaccine? this is not only about how much vaccine we should give people this is dangerous once it's weaponized and before you quite understand this function before you can attenuate this function how could you deliver it to human purposely or even using mandatory policies and that's what what i have been at from the beginning of the outbreak yeah I don't want you to

I understand that but I don't want to we get into controversy there and I just really want to stay with the story as you understand it not opinions so much you know what I mean and that's why I asked the question because it's go ahead Wai I'm not the one

actually I don't tell people not use vaccine. I won't say that. I just will say no mandatory. Because for me, I mean, I know this would be side effect. But you have to know there are so many things have side effect. It's like people using opinion ingredient in the drugs for painkiller. But in certain level of cancer, you have to use it. opinion ingredient in the drugs for pankema,

but in certain level of cancer, you have to use it. But I won't, I'm definitely against the mandatory policies. Yeah, yep, I get you, I'm with you. And I would like some questions answered about some of the things we're seeing these days, but that's a separate topic, and we can come back and talk about that topic sometime, you and I, but it's a separate topic and we can come back and talk about that topic sometime you and i but it's a separate topic um uh i'm sort of overwhelmed by everything you've given us so far

susan what are you leaning in for you i'm over overwhelmed too yeah uh so uh there's i'm just most of my questions i had uh you have answered as we were going along here so my question kind of touched on this but was it you think it was leaked on purpose? Well, okay, I have three questions. One is, do you think they actually leaked it and foisted it on their own people in order to get it over here? That doesn't make sense to me. It doesn't make sense to me initially until I did my investigation. The thing is, first, we need

to tell people a lot of details we still don't know yet, and we have intelligence for something, but we also need more details. But if you talk about lab accident, I can tell you I worked in such biosafety level three laboratories, and I can tell you that if there is spillover or anything, at least in this lab, the colleagues will be noticed because you have to either isolate yourself or get this infection or whatever. But in Wuhan Institute of Virology, at that time during the Wuhan outbreak in November, December,

there was no this kind of accident at all. And people work well in the normal function. And the second thing is, when we talk about release to human, we have seen the description in the PLA's document when they described the novel bioweapon using coronavirus. They said to optimize the function of this kind of bioweapon, you have to do the test using humans. So release it into the community, especially in the place that totally like a human living in this kind of real community, this kind of environment will be the best way for you to get the best function of this bioweapon finally. And for Wuhan things, what we can say is, I would say this is out of control because government didn't realize the transmissibility.

They underestimate the transmissibility. But I would say that based on evidence I have now, it pointed out to they have at least using some real investment for the test. And then because the high transmissibility is totally out of control. I remember the fake news articles where they said that the people inside the Wuhan clinic were sick. There was some stuff like that reported. There's a lot of crazy things.

Yes, but for example, they mentioned one female named Wang Yanlin, but that Wang Yanlin actually was in other places in China. And also I can tell you just based on the evidence is Wang Yanlin's photo is empty in the website. But you know, in China, this kind of website or system can be very careless. Maybe a student stays there for three years, they even forget to update the photo. So this is really not the evidence.

Got it. Is there anything about the way the spike protein has been adulterated or changed to give it the capacity to evolve in dangerous ways? You know, this has been a rapidly evolving virus. Is that something man-made or is that just a convenience of the backbone? Could you explain evolve what? In other words, it seems like the virus itself, in particular the spike protein,

is evolving very quickly in unpredictable ways. Is that something built into the man-made properties, or is that something of the backbone of the virus? I think that's one of the reasons they choose coronavirus to build this type of novel bioweapon. This is not something you can decide. Scientists really don't quite understand, but one reason is because coronavirus is very simple, just a single-string RNA,

and coronavirus is very short, only 30,000 So that's why it's easy to modify it. And China has spent a lot of money, so many years, to search novel virus from animals. They have built a huge database and then they can establish the computer model, computational model to help them to change certain parts. And also the other part is based, the other functions they want is based on the character of the coronavirus itself. Interesting. Now I think I heard you say somewhere that you think there was a second

release of virus. Like maybe Omicron was a second release or something. Did I hear that correctly or was that, did I mishear that? When we talk about Omicron was a second release or something. Did I hear that correctly or did I mishear that? When we talk about Omicron, that is something tricky. We are working on that now. I mean, basically, I mean, the Omicron outbreak in China because China government now claims that there are only Omicron variant and they claim that there is nothing you have to worry about. However,

what we have seen in China is really opposite to what the CCP government described. And if you want to examine the real reason of this outbreak, it's not like the government claimed only because they lifted the zero COVID policy or because of the vaccine coverage. First, the zero COVID policy doesn't mean they deal the citizens into the vacuum place and then keep their babies, protect them. People need to go out to do the PCR testing even during lockdown, right? Crowded together. And also the lockdown is not continuously for three years everywhere. It's kind of Shanghai for over two months,

Xinjiang for three months, and other time it's kind of randomly, like in a shift happened in different places all over the country. So you can't say people are so vulnerable, especially when we start to see this time the higher death toll and also the very severe symptoms compared to the Omicron symptoms overseas. And also we see that so many, so many feedback from our audience said the whole family overnight got infected, even they didn't go everywhere. A lot of things

we can't explain. And so we also checked the coverage of the vaccine in China, although they used the made in China inactive vaccine, but the coverage is very high. Government said 1.4 million people have already received over 3.4 billion vaccines. So basically almost three times people average, over 19% get two doses already. And at this time, even you go back to 2020, at that time people really don't have much immunity against the coronavirus. The situation is even not this terrible. So that's why we have to be very suspicious.

One is the timing and the other thing is we need to go back to say what CCP scientists, especially PLA-related scientists, have been doing in the past three years. And we have seen that, I can't tell more, but my team is working on that. What I can share with you is we have seen that China government has done a lot of things to study the immune escape variant. And that is actually the technology easy for gain-of-function to use to enhance the capacity of the weaponized virus. And also we have the China government, although they stop people to do any PCR testing in hospitals,

but they insist on the variants in China. It's just the Omicron, as we know. And then China CDC also predicts, they tell people at the end of December, there will be the super immune escapes variant come out to the world. And at that time, China would have the best treatment, which is already in the clinical trial. For example, one model antibody, China government said it will go to the market until March 2023. So these are all the things we need to be very aware of. And also, during my research, I also try to warn the other countries to prepare for that.

Don't let it hit your country again. We really don't want to go back to this kind of mandatory policy period. We don't want to give them pretext to do that. How do we avoid it? I think the good thing is at this moment, based on our feedback, although a majority of Chinese people get infected and the white lung symptom is also quite high, we have seen that if you can get drug especially for army treatment, the fit kind of food. So I have shared our audience about several protocols from FLCCC, from Dr.

Zelenko, from Dr. Peter McCarroll, and among these drugs for Chinese citizens, hydroxychloroquine is one easy for them to get because it's kind of OTC in China. So they have took that and also they have told me that they use that as the symptoms get kind of attenuated, or they even just feel recovered. But I mean, at that time also China government even don't want people to get the basic fever medicine or pancreas. Government holds the medicine and don't distribute it to people. And also we have no... Yeah, that's also I want to ask my government, why don't you let your people to get treatment? Even majority of medical staffs are sick and they have to, I mean, fair aid to go to work to save people.

The death toll is huge in China now. And the thing is, we also talk about the paranoid and we know that in China, this drug is not in the market but somehow some people can manage to get it from other countries some feedback shows that uh paranoid is also kind of uh helpful for the people especially when there is no uh other problem so we would say make sure you want to make sure you heard you. You say there's a monoclonal antibody coming. Is that true? In March or something?

Yes? Yeah, yeah. China, I also checked. Not only CDC claim, also news. They have claimed. Okay. And Paxlovid, is that what you're talking about? That they're getting their hands on Paxlovid?

The Molnupiravir? The thing is, I mentioned Paxlovid? I mentioned Paxlovid is because in China we also get feedback. Some high ranking maybe CCP family or rich family managed to get it and this also kind of helpful especially in the early stage.

So I want to tell people we have different choices like cheap drugs, also expensive medicines. You have to prepare it because the thing is, if this is immune escape, but this drug is kind of a broad-spectrum antivirus. So for the mechanism, this could work for people. They do work. I've prescribed a lot of packs, but it really works. the problem with it is there's a lot of rebound from it i want to bring in another scientist uh i'll just call him entropy for it seems to be his nickname um

you're an entropy you'll have to spend some enthalpy and unmute yourself. There you are. Yeah, guided entropy. Thank you, Dr. Drew. And a couple questions. If the conclusion is that this is indeed, obviously, at least a leak, if not intentional, as we're going down the questioning of why would they do that to their own people? Do they have something already ready to go?

And that would make sense that they wouldn't. So we're now we're in this discussion kind of reaching that point. And so if this thing is coming out in March, as it sounds like that's the case with this antibody. So it sounds like they either learned, I mean, it's not hard to create an antibody that can match. So that's a very quick thing. But manufacturing, i'm sure manufacturing is no small matter but yes you could do it quickly and manufacture it yep right so so we're still stuck with was it intentional uh release or is this just

a new variant that that evolved in the in in what we call now the wild um And so, you know, I think we still need to stick with that not being for sure, because if they just found that out there, it's quick to sequence that put together an antibody and that's ready to go. And most likely we knew that several years ago, you know, it looks like Moderna had already patented some of the antibody sequences potentially, I think, if I remember correctly used in their version. So. So if it is the case that we know that this is out there, it's not hard to be ready for something. You know, if we're already using these humanized ACE2 receptors, these new spike proteins we're playing with, and we know the natural risk.

We have a lot of antivirals coming. There's a lot of treatments coming. So in a weird way, if this was their, let me put it this way, Dr. Jan, if this was their strategy, they kind of screwed up because we're going to be prepared. We're getting treatments in order. They didn't take over our society. You know what I mean? The evidence is it sort of seemed very haphazard. You know, if this was a systematic attack, it wasn't very systematic.

Now maybe it was a trial run. Maybe this was a war game. I don't know. Um, but what, what do you say to that? First, your definition for success is different as CCP's definition for success. American success means boom. I wipe it out, and it's clean now. For CCP, it's I make you weaker and weaker,

destroy you little by little, and I have more chance at that time I can develop, and then we become little by little even equal, and then I use other ways to finally make you weak, sick, like this. So when we talk about, I just want to answer a little bit that our scientist has mentioned intentional or not. I think I need to emphasize that I believe

that it's intentionally come out of the lab because it is in the lab, it is in the strict protocol control lab and surveillance lab. When it comes out, it has to be intentional. And based on the response from the CCP government, it is intentional. And the thing is, intentional coming out is for trial or for attack and failed, or it is intentional to go out to do something else.

These are the things we are still looking for the very details. And also when we talk about the monoantibody and the immune state, right? The thing is, this can be the way as a success or not success. But if you imagine it in the weapon system, it's basically like you it in the weapon system, it's basically like you develop the missile defense system, they develop new missile, and then you have more defense. So this is a competing kind of phase. And if you use the virus as a weapon,

then you also need to have this kind of thinking. So that's why when we say that they study the immune escape variant and also at the same time they study the mono antibody and then they claim there will be future experiences that they have the top scientists who can predict the immune escape variant in the past three years and now they claim that there will be the new immune system super stream, but they have monoantibody when all the other monoantibody and the vaccines all over the world will be ineffective. You really need to be aware of CCP's this kind of wars. And when we talk about why they hurt the Chinese people, The thing is, for Americans, I know most of

you will ask me this question, but for Chinese people, we will never ask why our government won't hurt me. We know our government every year put trillions of dollars just to maintain the stability. What means maintain the stability? Means domestically they pay it to law enforcement team and this team just need to be obedient to CCP government. And when anyone want to tell something government don't like or do anything government don't like, even if it's legally, but government feel unhappy, then they treat you as an unstable factor. And at that time, the funding goes to the law enforcement team, who will be used to deal with you.

And if you check the government, they have so many ways to treat our Chinese people. For example, if you are a journalist who reports something the government doesn't like, you will be sent to the mental hospital. You will be defined as a psycho patient and even get false treatment unless you keep quiet. And also in our history for past 70 years under communist control, government never care about Chinese people. Recently there is a word called human mind. That means in China they develop human like using the mind. So you are just some consumable resources for the government. This is very anti-human system and this is very evil. So we never question that.

Yeah, that's what I, next thing I wanted to talk about with you was sort of this cultural political issue that we in the united states don't seem to understand that the the history of that last 70 years was about collectivization and sacrifice and that's that sacrifice and the destruction of millions of lives was considered glorious not unfortunate not disgraceful, but glorious. And so the idea that they would do that again is sort of for the glory of the country.

Yes. For example, now, you know, one thing we can say for China, why this outbreak happened now, we need to assume the timing. And the timing, I can tell you is very very suspicious right after the white White Paper Revolution and this revolution is historic because this is a first time in mainland China citizens there to stand up in multiple places and call for freedom powerful end CCP and Xi Jinping step down. This never happened, and the government even doesn't know how to handle it for a short while.

And later, we see that immediately everywhere have the outbreak come out. We have received the feedback from east to west, from the small village to the big cities. They said it's all kind of overnight from maybe 7th to 10th December. The whole family gets sick. The whole village gets sick. And the high fever and people even can die in 12 hours just after the symptom. These are all very unusual. But we also know that at that time,

American government House Intelligence Committee has issued one report, pointed out that COVID-19 virus is related to the bioweapon program in China, and the IC is sampling this evidence, sampling this evidence. And we know that also makes CCP very scary because, you know, once Americans know the truth, they will definitely treat CCP and Xi Jinping as enemies of mankind and hold them accountable. However, at that time, if suddenly outbreak come out, they could save a lot of time and people will say, oh, how could the country make their citizens sick? So maybe the government is innocent. And then this is a way for CCP to earn their time. They can go lobby.

They can go out to compromise other people. They have a lot of things they can do. And finally, do you think you had, because you were a part of this system most of your life, do you think you had some sort of an awakening? I still don't see, other than the uprising in Hong Kong, what was those moments like for you when you started coming to understand some of these things

that I wasn't raised where you were raised and I'm having trouble believing? Yes. So the final moment of my awakening definitely come from Hong Kong movement. But initially, I mean, that has to be little by little. At least you have to know this country, this government is not as good as it describes. You should be suspicious about the government. And I have this feeling because once it is my grandparents, they suffered from cultural erosion, but then they told me some of this story and I read a lot when I was young. So I know there has been so many disasters happened

in China under CCP's ruling. And also when I work as a intern doctor in the medical school, I have seen how it works in the medical system. It is also CCP controlled. And when they want you to lie, you have to lie. For example, there was some accident happened and there are injuries sent to hospital and some of them deaths, but government will just minimize the number. Even there are a hundred that government tell

only one death in the news. Then even you involved into this kind of treatment, you know the fact you have to keep silent. So all these things make me realize this is a system full of lies, cheating and also anti-human. I don't like it. And I moved to Hong Kong. I thought I got the place I want. I feel free there. However, when they come to destroy Hong Kong, my life is totally changed. And I say how shameless this government can treat their citizens. Hong Kong people are also their citizens. But how could they just beat them? They just make them disappear. I see the young protesters go out and they just want the basic human rights from the government. But then the next day you will see naked young people

found from the sea, from the mountain, or from under the building. And the police will claim they committed suicide. And these are all the lies. You can't believe that. And also you see the senior people come out, senior people, I mean, over 70, even 80 years old. They come to the street, they told people, we can't do nothing, but we can slow down this place

to let those students have more time to escape. When we were young, we didn't realize the nature of CCP, so we let it grow up. And now, when we get old, we have to do something to protect these people. So these are all the things that make me cry at that time. We see everyone, compared to the whole regime, everyone only has very little power. But as what Hong Kong people said, the water, we are like a drop of water. When we all go together, this is river and can be ocean. The power is so incredible. And I learned a lot from the whole moment. I'm inspired by all these people. I admire all of them. And that's why when I meet this whole investigation, when I see what happened, I know what I can do. And I know I cannot work with this system to let it happen so uh basically i mean this is the whole progress of

my change i feel like we we what do they call it ran the cycle single double triple home run that we ran the full cycle of your story. Did we miss anything? What kind of cycle? What else do you want to know? No, did we miss anything? Is there a major topic that I neglected to ask you about? Is there anything you want people to know about that I didn't ask you? I see many people just want to know

that when I came to you US, what happened to me? And also because you may check, if you check my name on Wikipedia, basically I'm a conspiracy theorist. I just want to take several examples to tell you how it happened. One of my colleagues in the US, I mean colleagues since I escaped to US and they want to help me to edit my Wikipedia page and then they found some senior people who had a lot of experience in that and then they checked my Wikipedia, they realized there are at least 70 active accounts.

Staying there, whatever you change, they will change it back to the next you comment on me so that means they don't want you to know any positive thing about me and they also make up the lies to discredit me and this is also what it takes the advantage of the algorithm. So based on that, basically when you check, Google Searching is also kind of manipulated because we have our people inside Google. They told that, especially the CCP has controlled the Chinese part of the Google Searching. And whatever you search me, there won't be other thing come out

except for the negative reports. And also, it's like my Twitter account was suspended. Also, maybe you don't know, my Yen report are also kind of withdrawn by CCP. In July 2021. A CCP agent who pretend to be the dissident in US Miles Guo, Guo Wengui. Hey, when I realized that he is an agent

and I also reported him to the IC, he claimed he will make me disappear and also my reports disappeared from the world. So they have first tried to withdraw my Yen reports from the NADO, but then we reposted it, and then they also CCP write email to ask those websites not to publish my reports, including ResearchFeed, which is an academic,

just as a social website. So they have to withdraw one of my reports, which pointed to the unrestricted bioweapons. And so also they work with those compromised scientists. They have created a lot of fake claims to attack the Yen Report. And I think people should read, especially the third Yen Report, because once you read whatever, those kind of attacks from scientists, on MIT review, or by John Hopkins,

or by the New York Times, CNN, you will find the answer, point to point answer to tell you how they twist my evidence in the Yen reports and create a space to implant their false narrative. That is not difficult for people to understand. I wrote the three Yen reports to let everyone who can read English report, and if you are

enthusiastic to understand the origin of COVID, you can go to verify by yourself. You don't need to believe me or not. Based on the reference, check whether the reference are real, whether the smoking gun evidence are like the recipe from your grandma, when you eat the cake you know, oh this is my grandma's cooking, right? And you check the connections between all these foreign Chinese PLA scientists, whether these things happen, you will know what happened. And I hope everyone can let more people understand the origin, because if we don't focus on the origin, we can never solve the vaccine problem or other public health policy problem,

or we cannot prevent the future pandemic. Thank you for that. Caleb or Susan, do you guys have any other questions? Welcome to America. She's been here a little while. Yeah, but I see how she has to keep fighting for the reality of who she is and how it still happens here. Well, that's what she's saying.

She's saying the Western countries learn from the CCP, and at least for whatever reason. Or maybe it's coming from the CCP. We don't know. We don't know. We don't know. But it's certainly, we have now evidence of what's going on in social media. What really stuck out to me and just looking at it from a historical perspective and how, you know, germ warfare would work is how she said how it kind of happened slowly.

Like you don't really see it coming. And then it's not till you look back and you realize, oh, gee, this is killing off our young men that are of fighting age in the war or whatever. That's something that just stood out to me is how sneaky it is, how cunning they are, and how the germ takes decades to really slow us down and that's what i'm feeling i have a i have a question on the chat here that says ask duchy and why

freedom of information request request were put into the uk.irish.gov but no proofs provided do you understand i don't quite understand that question do you what uk freedom information i'll read it again i don't it it didn't make sense to me either but i'll read it again why did the freedom of information request put into uk dot irish dot gov but no proofs provided. I'm just asking. I don't know what that means. I don't understand this question. I don't know.

I don't either. I don't either. Yeah. Okay. I don't know what that's all about either. Let's see if there's anything else. Connection. You're going to have to.

Yeah. Okay. And I, you know, we don't want to be giving people fear you know the whole idea behind this is to impart fear you know to be aware on the public or we're we're you know we're not saying oh gee it's gonna get worse or whatever it's but well let me ask this uh dr the fact that our government chose fear as a public health policy was was that also from the CCP, do you think?

Actually, I don't think that the government is this. I mean, when we talk about what American government is doing, and if just simply compared to CCP government, that's actually very unfair because what CCP government has done is basically now, especially now, we know Xi Jinping is the emperor in China. So basically that just reflects Xi Jinping's idea of thoughts and they just push it to all the society. But in America, when your government has to do something, I mean, because people have vote, so especially people have the right to say no, like what Freedom Congress has done recently in the

Congress. So American people always can choose to say no and to further discuss or change some policies. So this is the very difference in America. And actually, that is most advantage in American system and so I would say that if you think your government learned something from China and just you need to express your opinions as Susan just said it's not create fear it's to build your courage because we only need two things truth and courage and you have to know that God

endorsed everyone, your rights. And this is forbidden in China, but this is protected by Constitution in America. So also that's why CCP tries the best to cheat you and they try to change your mind. That's why you won't know what you can talk to discuss with your government to protest for. And now we know what we need. We definitely don't want such tyrannism, that kind of system.

So just forget our fear because we have no other way to go. We can only bravely stand up and speak out. Well, thank you for that. Those are two words that I've been speaking, been coming out of my mouth a lot lately for the first time in many years. The word courage is suddenly very, very, very important. And something that I took for granted, which was that the pursuit of the truth was something that everybody was interested in. I, I, that has been, that has been a foggy priority in recent years, I'd say, but I thank you for being with us. Um, you know, it's been a fascinating journey to go on with you and I hope people will follow you. The, the Twitter handle is at Dr. Lee, D R Lee, L I M E N G Y A N one, the the main so you're back on twitter so now you can

voice your opinion again like all the other doctors that we've had back on the show and even our own dr kelly victory is back on twitter and we just really appreciate that you came on the twitter spaces and perk drew's ears uh he he heard you say something. He was like, I have to get her on this show. I have to hear more. I have to hear. She knows what she's talking about. She's been there. And I need to hear more.

And you've delivered exactly that. Really appreciate. And I just want to remind our audience, there are hundreds of imposters on Twitter. And we just need to check the one with over 150,000 followers. That's the only account of mine. Okay, good. Hopefully today there'll be more than that. All right. I hope you'll stay in touch with us and give us any updates. If something new comes across your desk or you have new findings, I hope you'll join us again. And thank you for your bravery. Thank you. God bless you.

Thank you. Yeah, thank you. You're inspiring. So there we go. She did not disappoint. It was exactly kind of what I thought. I'm very proud of you. Proud of me?

Yeah. Because why? Because I thought this would be a good, interesting conversation. Yeah, yeah. I'm sure there's alternative opinions, and I'd like to hear those as well. And there's a lot of weird stuff going on on Twitter. I'm not quite sure what to make of it. I can't really concentrate on it yet.

So I'll try to make sense of people that have alternative points of view. But certainly she is inspiring, right? Do we all agree on that at least? That this is an inspirational person and an exceedingly smart person. That was the other thing I got. This is a highly trained scientist and clinician. This woman knows what she's talking about. And should it's the kind of person we should at least be listening to well i feel like china's looming and we need to not let that happen looming fight

back like they've been i mean at the very least they shut down the whole world right at the very least they hoodwinked our public health official now i can blame our public health officials but i can blame them for hoodwinking them this they hoodwinked our public health official. Now, I can blame our public health officials, but I can blame them for hoodwinking them. They hoodwinked them. And we went through, our children were damaged. The entire world. Our children were damaged. Schools were closed for two years because of that shit.

And if nothing else bothers you, let that sink in a little bit. They hoodwinked us. We have a generation of kids now with mental health issues, developmental issues, educationally behind. Maybe that's exactly what they intended. They got well well done so anyway uh so here we go uh interesting how many times have i said it's a communist plot tomorrow tomorrow are you do you feel do you feel vindicated do you feel just a little bit so so do you i'm not i'm, it still could have been an accident. You always are very moderate about everything, but I don't know. I,

if you look at the history, it hasn't changed since Mao came in. No, I get that part. It just doesn't change. And like, I was thinking in my head about the, the guy that killed those girls in Idaho and how the,

I can't remember the guy, this name who was on yesterday, but how he said, there's like was on yesterday, but, um, how he said there's like a power thing, how, how, how these psychopaths have a, they want to dominate. And this is the same kind of thing. I mean, they kill off their people left and right. They don't, it doesn't bother them. So tomorrow we have Dr. Paul Alexander in here.

And Paul Alexander was in the room when the social distancing was invented and the distance of social distancing was uh concocted uh and when he told us that story last time i was in shock and i didn't ask a lot of follow-up questions i want to hear my whole interview with him at the beginning of the show tomorrow is going to be i want to hear every detail of what happened in that room who were the players what were they thinking how did they come to this craziness? And then why did they stay behind it when they knew there was no evidence for it? So, Paul Alexander, tomorrow.

We're not having a show Thursday or Friday. We'll be out of town. And thank you for being here today. We appreciate you guys on the restream. I've been trying to follow you guys. And, of course, the Rumble. We have a couple of good other guests coming up. Dr. Paul Hatfield with Kelly on the 18th and also Dr.

David Gortler, two great guests. And Ryan Cole coming back. And, and we have, again, you guys on the rumble rants we've been watching as we always do. And maybe Drew will come up with somebody else by next Tuesday.

You never know. Maybe. I mean, I just thought that we'll, we'll bring her back to, if there's more information. Actually, I'm having a tooth pulled next Tuesday. You never know. Maybe. I mean, I just thought that we'll bring her back too if there's more information. Actually, I'm having a tooth pulled next Tuesday. So I may not be there. Caller show.

We'll do a caller show. I need to do some caller shows too. I can maybe make sure the sound works and then call back and debate. Lots to catch up on here with you all. And we'll do Just Calls coming up probably next week. That's probably when we'll do it, right? Let's quickly look at the schedule next week, if you don't mind.

Next week is, is Tuesday your appointment? Yeah, so Tuesday we can do a call-up show. Okay, let's sort of organize a call-up show on Tuesday. All right, we'll see you all tomorrow at three o'clock Pacific time. Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Caleb Nation and Susan Pinsky. As a reminder, the discussions here are not a substitute for medical care, diagnosis, or treatment. This show is intended for educational and informational purposes only.

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