Ask Dr. Drew - Remembering Bob Saget + Tyrus Speaks on COVID-19 & Media Bias – Ask Dr. Drew – Episode 76

Episode Date: March 4, 2022

[1/10/22] Dr. Drew shares memories of comedian Bob Saget, followed by a live segment with Tyrus (from The Greg Gutfeld Show). Tyrus (AKA George Murdoch) is an ex-WWE pro wrestler, actor, and political... commentator who regularly appears on The Greg Gutfeld Show. He is currently signed to the National Wrestling Alliance where he is the current NWA World Television Champion. He is known for his tenure in WWE as Brodus Clay, and Impact Wrestling as Tyrus. Follow Tyrus: https://twitter.com/planettyrus  https://instagram.com/tyrussmash  [This episode originally aired on January 10, 2022] Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation ( https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/FirstLadyOfLove). SPONSORS • REFRAME – Since the beginning of the pandemic, nearly 1 in 5 Americans has reported consuming an unhealthy amount of alcohol, but only 10% of them are actually getting the help they need. Reframe is a neuroscience-based smartphone app that helps users cut back or quit drinking alcohol. Use the code DRDREW for 25% off your first month or annual subscription at https://drdrew.com/reframe • BLUE MICS – After more than 30 years in broadcasting, Dr. Drew’s iconic voice has reached pristine clarity through Blue Microphones. But you don’t need a fancy studio to sound great with Blue’s lineup: ranging from high-quality USB mics like the Yeti, to studio-grade XLR mics like Dr. Drew’s Blueberry. Find your best sound at https://drdrew.com/blue  • HYDRALYTE – “In my opinion, the best oral rehydration product on the market.” Dr. Drew recommends Hydralyte’s easy-to-use packets of fast-absorbing electrolytes. Learn more about Hydralyte and use DRDREW25 at checkout for a special discount at https://drdrew.com/hydralyte  • ELGATO – Every week, Dr. Drew broadcasts live shows from his home studio under soft, clean lighting from Elgato’s Key Lights. From the control room, the producers manage Dr. Drew’s streams with a Stream Deck XL, and ingest HD video with a Camlink 4K. Add a professional touch to your streams or Zoom calls with Elgato. See how Elgato’s lights transformed Dr. Drew’s set: https://drdrew.com/sponsors/elgato/  THE SHOW: For over 30 years, Dr. Drew Pinsky has taken calls from all corners of the globe, answering thousands of questions from teens and young adults. To millions, he is a beacon of truth, integrity, fairness, and common sense. Now, after decades of hosting Loveline and multiple hit TV shows – including Celebrity Rehab, Teen Mom OG, Lifechangers, and more – Dr. Drew is opening his phone lines to the world by streaming LIVE from his home studio in California. On Ask Dr. Drew, no question is too extreme or embarrassing because the Dr. has heard it all. Don’t hold in your deepest, darkest questions any longer. Ask Dr. Drew and get real answers today. This show is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. All information exchanged during participation in this program, including interactions with DrDrew.com and any affiliated websites, are intended for educational and/or entertainment purposes only. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:45 please contact Connex Ontario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Hey, everybody. Welcome to Ask Dr. Drew. We appreciate you all being here. We are out on Clubhouse as well right now, but I'm not sure that we're going to be doing a lot of questions from there but we will see how this goes um i uh you know we've all been shocked by bob saget's passing and susan and i were particularly affected by this he is somebody
Starting point is 00:01:17 that it's it's it's so um almost uncanny that uh what you'll notice in everybody that knew Bob, we're all saying the same thing. And it's not because of hyperbole or that he's saccharine. He was just a great guy and he was great to everybody. And he was humble and funny. And I mean, Susan, if you want to make comment at all, I'm not sure if you knew him as well as I did. Personable. See, this particular picture was, I ran into it in an airport and he asked me to be in this movie he was producing at the time. But Susan and I got off a plane. In tears.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Yesterday? It was yesterday. Yes, last night. Yesterday. And I said, that's the spot where I met Bob. It was where it gave me the chills. We heard about his passing like an hour before we were on the plane. And this is us on the jetway.
Starting point is 00:02:08 But before we started taking pictures on the jetway, we met right outside on this post. And I said, this is the post we were standing. We literally got off the plane where you met him. Yes, I know. That was insane. I call that serendipity. It was weird. And so that, and Bob is somebody that we also, if you look at, we have pictures, I guess, from my 60th birthday party.
Starting point is 00:02:35 If you got that up there, Caleb. I know he came to your 60th birthday party. Like we only know him for a few months. Is this that? It might've been something else. It's that one. Yeah, that was the red carpet. That's him with his fiancee at the time they're now wife and they he came up could you have pictures of him at the podium with us and when he was out he's getting there all right i'm seeing
Starting point is 00:02:53 there they are the me and adam and bob and bob could not have been more gracious and lovely and i know i was excited he showed up i'm anxious to hear what, but he really liked you. And you also were on Mary. He was the original Olsen twins father. And then he was on the red carpet with you when you were on the movie with the Olsen twins. Yes. And do you remember that?
Starting point is 00:03:17 Oh yeah. I looked that up and those are actually, you have to have a subscription. So you've known him a long time, those pictures. But yeah, I always felt guilty that I played the dad in their movie. and he didn't but he was there at the premiere of the movie he was that's so sweet he was everywhere he knew everybody and he like when i would text him he
Starting point is 00:03:37 would text me back like that's i didn't know him that well but he came on our podcast he came on my podcast he talked to a couple of my psychics and it was actually really funny he's he was he's he's a good guy he'll be missed and he was i feel terrible for his for his wife and his daughters i'm angry there was a few people that would express anger at this i'm i'm one of those people i get it's sort of where i go before had sadness i get angry with this like this shouldn't have happened i am uh but i'm anxious to know what happened here because it it is not a substance related death i guarantee you that but something is something is a myth something is not
Starting point is 00:04:18 right in this whole story and we're going to find out more as time goes along so um bob you'll be missed. And, and I'm not, I'm not alone. If you look at Twitter, a hundred percent of people, and he knew everybody knew everything. And, uh,
Starting point is 00:04:32 and he was friendly to everyone. Exactly. He didn't just know them. He was like, even me, like, who am I? Everybody felt like he was their friend and that's the way he made you feel.
Starting point is 00:04:41 So, and he was funny as shit. That's the other good thing. He did, he did his job. And, uh, you might, you might look at the uh movie the aristocrats if you want to see bob at his most dynamic yeah he could be pretty felt filthy when he wanted to watch him on my show he was funny on my show too okay was that up somewhere yeah calling out with susan pinsky all right you can just get that on on uh Libsyn or YouTube or iTunes or
Starting point is 00:05:06 whatever he's at the he's in the last 20 minutes of the show the first time you know he's a he he was he was nice enough to come on let's just put it that way because he was on your show and I said well do you want to have a psychic greeting and he said yes but he was very open to it too yes yeah he just he played along with all stuff well no he said he he had a lot of friends that were like that and a lot of people miss him also because of uh full house that was called full house yes full house and uh and i get that i get that but he was so much more than that so he was on you live 130 and then he was on um calling out number one cigar says oh boy aristocrats yeah i know I know, but it was funny.
Starting point is 00:05:45 It was very funny. If you want to see Bob doing his thing. All right. Yeah, well, he did a lot in his life. He had an amazing life. Yes, yes, he did. And he loved what he was doing. That's one of these sad things about his last tweets
Starting point is 00:05:57 is that he was expressing, he was down in Florida and how much he enjoyed. He said his last tweet was essentially, I can't believe I just did two hours or something. I'm just so addicted to this. This is great. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Just to get back to work. And I don't know. Who knows what happened? Nobody deserves to die alone in a hotel though. That's all I know. Yeah, I know. What did you announce to me? I'm going to go everywhere with you.
Starting point is 00:06:18 So from now on, she's going to, she is going to come with a- Somebody has to watch you take your last breath. So Susan's going to be, she's going to have a paddles with her wherever she goes from now on and so we'll have one of those little defibrillators you can get the plane or whatever you know those little portable units so she's gonna well even so if it's your time i don't want you to be alone that would be terrible i it's sad for the people but who you know you leave behind it's it's so sad because you just think
Starting point is 00:06:43 oh no what happened you know yeah yeah and it also just's so sad because you just think, oh no, what happened, you know? And it also just, if you're a great person, it just sounds so lonely, you know? You should be surrounded by the ones that love you. Yeah, and let me just give you my thinking. So obviously everyone thinks substance at first. It's like, no, I checked far and wide. That is not the case. Second, you think, well, a cardiac event.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Well, did he have a heart attack? That's possible. But. Second, you think, well, a cardiac event, well, did he have a heart attack? That's possible. But, and his, he had, you know, intracranial bleed is the other thing, either hypertensive or aneurysmal. He had a sister with an aneurysmal bleed and does tend to go in families. Stroke, not in his age group, not like that, not so massively. And yet he, there was an autopsy apparently and no report yet. So I'm, I'm very suspicious. Something's not right here. And yet there was an autopsy apparently and no report yet. So I'm very suspicious. Something's not right here. So we'll find out.
Starting point is 00:07:30 We'll find out. Doesn't it take a couple of weeks to find out? If you see an intracranial bleed, they usually report that. Right. If they see a myocardial event, the dead myocardial tissue from a heart attack. But then he's a celebrity. They don't always say everything. They will usually report that.
Starting point is 00:07:43 But if it's something that they need to go repair the tissue and look under the microscope, that's what takes a few weeks. The toxicology takes a few weeks too, but that I promise you is going to be negative. All right, let's bring my guest in here. Let's cleanse the palate with my buddy Tyrus. Our laws as it pertains to substances are draconian and bizarre. The psychopath started this. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction, fentanyian and bizarre. The psychopath started this. He was an alcoholic because of social media
Starting point is 00:08:05 and pornography, PTSD, love addiction, fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous. I'm a doctor for f***ing sake. Where the hell do you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people.
Starting point is 00:08:17 I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals. Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Loveline all the time. Educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat. If you have trouble, you can't stop and you want to help stop it, I can help.
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Starting point is 00:10:08 Mondays and Tuesdays now. The birth of the pandemic. I'm all remote now, so most of my Fox stuff is if I'm doing Judge Jeanine or the big Saturday and Sunday show or any of the other ones, America's Newsroom
Starting point is 00:10:24 podcast, et cetera. It'll all be from beautiful studios in new Orleans, Louisiana. So, well, everybody got COVID at five. And of course,
Starting point is 00:10:34 like everybody, Tyrus is the current NWA world television wrestling champion. You can have a witness his belt of February 12th. So it was coming up soon. Wow. Where? I don't, you know, he doesn't get enough credit
Starting point is 00:10:53 for being a brilliant stand-up comedian. I mean, everyone always sees the Saget. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They don't realize, like when you saw him in the the sitcom that was established and that was parameters on it and you know there's rules you know with the family comedy and he was phenomenal at that but uh his stand-up was unreal yeah and i agree i think
Starting point is 00:11:23 and one of and it's a small role but it is the most iconic role of a what would there's no other way to half baked and when he gave his speech it was the most hilarious thing uh you you could imagine and it was just he was just in the room and uh he they were uh chapelle went and said he had addiction to weed and saget stands up basically rips him apart and i won't get into what he said but those of us who remember that movie it was phenomenal he asked him have you ever done a certain act for weed and chapelle said no he told everyone well you can boo this man. And then everybody booed him. But he had that shock value about him because he looks the part.
Starting point is 00:12:13 He looks like the host of America's Funniest Home Videos. And he looks like the dad. But if you get him in a nightclub in a microphone and let there be a heckler, his level of just brashness and quick wit, not enough, everyone sighed, but it never got to the same level because he was already America's dad for a long time running. And one of the things that I think we need to point out, he stayed America's dad. He didn't have the fall from grace.
Starting point is 00:12:43 He didn't have the Bill Cosby situation. He didn't have some of the other dads we had that hidden lives and they were miserable people and all this kind of stuff. So he I think as a comedian, he's one of the ones I look at for just being able to go out there without a plan and just make magic. So I don't think enough people know about that so uh i met him one time briefly he asked me not to kill him um and it just yeah i was uh i was with snoop and he just said oh god don't kill me hello okay and uh but you understand you're a presence you you understand what would prompt somebody to say that yes you forget Forget. You know, I forget. And every once in a while, like when I'm out and I'll be at the shopping center and someone cuts in front of me, the line of like, hey, like, oh, sorry. I'm so sorry. I just, you know, so it's yeah, I forget sometimes when you when you get you get used to it, you know, like, you know, you're used to being doctor, you know, and being smart. So people just kind of forget. No, it's just, this is you. You're just you.
Starting point is 00:13:54 You're a tyrant. And you don't, you're just yourself. And sometimes that's scary to people. You forget about that. Oh, my God, it's so funny. Yes, apologies to the clubhouse i i forgot to hook it up and uh so you guys didn't hear again again it seems to be it's my uh my it's my it's clearly will happen again yet again because it seems to my go-to move is to forget to hook
Starting point is 00:14:20 up clubhouse so i apologize okay there's the pictures of the birthday party that he so graciously showed up at. Yeah. I was excited. Yeah, it was phenomenal. I mean, I did not expect him to do that. So Tyrus, let's talk a little bit. Susan wanted to hear your thoughts.
Starting point is 00:14:39 And by the way, I have missed you. I've been to Gutfeld a few times and I miss you every damn time. And it pisses me off because I always kind of look forward to seeing you and I get to gutfeld a few times and i miss you every damn time and it pisses me off because uh i always kind of look forward to seeing you and i get to see your buddy cap but i never get to see you so i'm going to try to time that better in the future word is on the street uh you'll probably see me there a few a couple extra nights a week uh once we get this, whatever this is, situated with the Omicron variant,
Starting point is 00:15:08 you know, with everyone basically catching it, which I think Doc is a good thing at this point. You know, we're kind of seeing filter through it. So I'm hoping that's a positive sign of vaccination. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Our whole family had it here. And yeah, my house had it. Yeah, our whole family had it here. And it's interesting. I mean, it's more prevalent than people realize. I mean, our household, only one person got detected by the public health department. The rest of us tested at home and stayed home, and that was that. And so it's so hard to get the testing.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Yeah. You know, our doctor basically said to treat as symptoms arise. There was no thing like you couldn't go to CVS or buy a kit or whatever. You could order them online, but they were backordered, and good luck getting anything shipped on time. We're just following the guidelines that were put in front of us by a doctor in terms of, um, just monitor and treat as needed. And, you know, so that's basically what we're doing. I literally was on the verge of getting the, um, vaccine, the booster, but I was literally, I was seeing a lot of adverse reactions to it. And I thought, gosh, the Omicron seems so much milder. I think I'd rather get Omicron than than get the vaccine i think it's actually going to be more effective and safer
Starting point is 00:16:31 and boom then i got it and that was it for me so now i'm i'm double i'm uh what would you call it when you're uh into something twice i've had the alpha and i've had the omicron to a two double time winner they call it well no yeah so i took this weird test like because i was able to get my hand on a hands on a covet test before i left for new york because i caught it over the new year's and it's they actually um i am reported through so two of us are reported because you had to take the test and then you had to, you know. Oh, that one you sent in. Yeah. Well, you have to do it.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Yeah. You scan the test and it says you're positive. And so I guess I have a result. So yours got sent in. Who else got sent in? Douglas? Did it? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:18 You said one of our family members. I was thinking it was you. Oh, okay. I don't know. Because everyone else, we all did home testing. Well, this was a home test, but they... No, but I mean the home test we had that, you know... I don't know if this will work.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Like if I get in an airplane and say, oh, look, I had COVID on December 31st. Well, keep it. I mean... Well, good luck. Well, that was your flight beat. Right. There's a great, a really great conversation
Starting point is 00:17:43 between Peter Attia and ZDogg, two physicians. ZDogg's been on this show a number of times, who dig into the whole issue of boostering and natural immunity and who should be boosted. They really get into the very specific clinical details. Very, very good conversation. I tweeted it, and it's up on my, let's see, it's up at Locals also. You can find it there. I do recommend people listen to that. If you want to understand really
Starting point is 00:18:12 good clinical thought, those guys are bringing it. They really are. But it wasn't a big deal. It was just like a bad cold. I ate and drank normally. I didn't sleep great. You were in bed a little more than you would have been because I couldn't leave the house
Starting point is 00:18:27 I mean I could have gone to the party that night I felt fine but everybody already had COVID at one of the things that I observed it seems like you have a day where you have like a little bit of fever and a runny nose or a cough then the next day you feel great
Starting point is 00:18:44 and two days will go by and then all of a sudden the fever is back you have like a little bit of fever and a runny nose or a cough. Then the next day you feel great. And then two days will go by and then all of a sudden the fever is back. And then it's gone. It seems like it's like a roller coaster. It's like a lot of up and down and up and down. Right. That is to me one of the key clinical characteristics of COVID generally. It sort of relentlessly hangs on. It's kind of a relentless virus.
Starting point is 00:19:04 And I really have a feeling we're going to find one day that's how it does its cytokine activation problem did rex ever come out of the cage by the way so somewhere our dogs are going nuts right now uh but somebody is jaron is tweeting here or at least on the restream, saying, it's just the COVID fog lingers longer than the two days Omicron last. And Jaron, I totally agree with you for the most part, for some people. For me, not for Susan, for one of my sons. For me, I actually got characteristics, although I was barely sick. I didn't even think I had anything.
Starting point is 00:19:43 That's why you gave it to all of us. I didn't think I was sick, but I did have what I was very familiar long hauler symptoms. That's the exact same symptoms I had with long haul, very much milder than when I had the real alpha, but I had this sort of weird foggy fatigue thing that went on for a few days and now it's gone. But, uh, and then I've had a lingering cough, but it is kind of a relentless thing. So the, the point is well taken. And our son who had not had the booster had a more difficult time of it. Everyone that had booster, like it was a nothing. It was a nothing.
Starting point is 00:20:17 And you're still coughing. And I'm still coughing. You will hear it today. You guys did well with it. Um, yeah. I mean, like I said, uh uh ingrid's too tough like i mean i think maybe if she ever did you know 10 minutes and it would say i just can't live like this and would be out uh she just doesn't have time i'm with her it was weird laying around for five days waiting we've kind of taken a proactive uh measure we've we've taken it to covid in terms of we've changed our diet uh we're x we exercise more we you know that was the biggest thing we're getting make sure we're getting our eight hours in
Starting point is 00:20:57 so we looked at like in terms of what can we do to better ourselves you know i'm saying we can't always worry about what the cdc is going gonna say this thing mutates it's gonna keep mutating and you know this that whatever so in the meantime you know I started I started dropping some weight started training in weights differently which has been a real shock for me because I've always been a power lifter throwing up big numbers and weights and lifting little and working on high reps and, and feeling weird with small dumbbells in my hand. Um, but it's all for a better future. So, um, I don't have any medical advice for anyone, but as far as what I can tell, making sure you change your diet and working on things like
Starting point is 00:21:42 obesity and, uh, you you know the stuff you and being aware of what's going on with your body know your blood type uh if you don't have a doctor then reach out to urgent care start uh asking nurses and doctors for questions and information don't rely so much on the media and opinions and cdc i hate to say it is confusing because you have you have basically you have three heads you have president biden you have fauci and i always forget her name you have the head of the cdc and literally in one day they can all be three well actually yes i'm sorry and you make three speeches and completely three different languages it's very confusing yeah for the american yeah my whole new. Hey, you are, you are. You are singing my tune, man.
Starting point is 00:22:27 I've been saying this from the beginning. This is a medical syndrome. Patient with doctor should be making their decisions on what to do. What Joe Rogan did with his doctor. What Aaron Rogers did with his doctor should be none of your effing business you may agree or disagree with it has no relevance to anyone except the doctor and the patient and you can listen we should have been able to listen to fauci and the cdc for guidance for my profession it should have been as it has always been they us guidance, and we make the decisions for the patients.
Starting point is 00:23:06 This got taken away from the practice of medicine, so I'm so delighted to hear you emphasizing bringing it back to the patient and the doctor, and the two of them make a decision, and that's that. You know, and if I could switch and ask you a question here, Doc, because one of the things that I have always admired about you is that through all your fame and stardom and it is that uh you've never been anything but a doctor you didn't change who you were you didn't become whatever if if crest toothpaste wanted you to do a commercial for them but they changed all their ingredients to pure sugar but they gave you a check doc the good doctor is going to say no and i would not question do that
Starting point is 00:23:49 doing that when you see uh fauci i always think of here is a man who was the top of his field for decades and we never knew who he was and there was no question that he was he was the one that everybody looked to you yourself looked to him as a mentor. Yeah. Being on TV, I feel like he wasn't able to not become the, I don't want to say a tool because it's rude, but not a tool in terms of who he is as a person. Because I don't know him and I'm not going to judge him that way. An instrument. An instrument. An instrument. He became an instrument and he became caught up in his own facade to where he's now getting
Starting point is 00:24:32 in arguments and fights with TV hosts and things like that. And you just would not expect that from a man of his intellect, a man of his prestige. Yes. And I just feel like if you were able to give advice if you were and just in terms of how you separate staying a doctor with that ugly little camera that changes everybody and it take you know can he ever act being the good doctor he he i believe i believe he can i believe he can i've been he has. I've been, he has been a, somebody I have followed and a source of inspiration
Starting point is 00:25:08 since I was a resident. When I was working with AIDS patients, I relied on him heavily. He got involved in radio. He was, so we got involved and he had about HIV and AIDS. He was spot on all the way along until this one.
Starting point is 00:25:22 And he got adulterated in some way. And him saying things like an attack on Dr. Fauci, attack on me is an attack on science. Who says stuff like that? That's the craziest thing. Please listen to the Peter Attia ZDogg conversation where they get into real detail about how crazy this all is and the difference between science and advocacy. He became an advocate rather than a scientist. When he was a scientist, he was advising clinicians what to do. When he became an advocate, he became a speaker for public health dogma. And that was never his role. He should have never done it.
Starting point is 00:26:02 And humbly, it feels like, like wish we had another name for this but but it's sort of commonly called trump derangement syndrome like people ran away into this other camp and they got messed up he's one of those people that got messed up by running to a camp rather than just staying the person he's always been. Do you see what I'm talking about? Yeah, I agree. Like I said, I think the attacks on him I don't always think are fair, but he doesn't help himself. I guess you can put it that way. Well, he's back.
Starting point is 00:26:33 I think he's back, Tyrus. I noticed his – you'll see he has changed. Like about a week ago, he changed his tune, so to speak. He changed – he really started talking about the guy I've known forever. I literally, one day he was doing an interview. I went, oh, I recognize you now. There you are. Please just stay right there.
Starting point is 00:26:52 And then I saw another interview. It was more him just, just, just stand with the facts, man. And just laying them out there, not taking the position. You can't handle this. He just started just talking transparently the way he always has. And I was shocked. It was really a big change. And when you hear it, you'll see the difference.
Starting point is 00:27:10 And I was glad to see it. The other time I saw a shift is when he was in front of Congress and said, yeah, maybe this thing did come from a Wuhan lab. I knew at that moment things were shifting. And I think that shift is mostly complete. So I am hopeful he'll be back. That's my bottom line. Okay. And I think that shift is mostly complete. So I am hopeful he'll be back. That that's my bottom line. Okay. Awesome. Well, that was my question. I feel better now. Thank you. Yeah, good. I mean, you should, he's an important person. And remember
Starting point is 00:27:35 he's 80, 81 years old now. He's actually 81. I mean, my God, if I'm functioning like that at 81, holy crap. I mean, can you imagine that hats off to him for that back to your uh your weight training i am a man with you on the heavy weights it's so gratifying so satisfying to do that particularly when you're a younger male uh i because of joint problems i've had to switch to uh you know somewhat lighter weights higher reps and and stuff, it's really difficult. It's troubling. I get what you're doing. Especially when
Starting point is 00:28:13 there's a guy who can maybe lift half of what you have, but I can't on a non-warm-up day. He'll have his little 315 on there for a rep of five and he'll be screaming and yelling and not just, you know, the old gorilla is just like, just go over there and just rep it out 10 times.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Shut this dude up. That's not what we're here for. Put your 125 and your little bands on, let's do your 30 reps. Stay focused. It's not about them. You're okay. It's like, I have this little Jiminy Chris was like,
Starting point is 00:28:44 don't worry about it. You know, it's like Richard Pryor chimney crisp it's like don't worry about it you know it's like uh richard pryor's crack pipe is like now my don't worry you know let's work on stretching his crack pipe ryer's crack pipe would talk to him so so yes so i still do think though you ought to go in there and just rep it out here and there to kind of satisfy that you know what i mean you got to do it once in and there to kind of satisfy that. You know what I mean? You got to do it once in a while. Just kind of get that out. When I deadlift, I'll still throw some stuff on there. There you go. There you go.
Starting point is 00:29:12 I'm keeping my metabolism up and, you know, cut out all gluten, starches, sugar. I'm fighting her on that one. I've not been a great patient on that one, but we're all figuring out. And, you know, but we're all figuring it out. But look at what she's done. I mean, not only has she transformed her body, she's jacked now. She's actually walked around the house with the guns showing all the time. And I'm like, yo, whoa, we have to cover those up.
Starting point is 00:29:37 What's going on? So, you know, because she's doing the rink routine and it's just, it's like just movements. And, you know, I'm trying to figure it out I'm not ready to be on camera yet because I don't feel like falling on my face trying to keep up with what she makes look so easy but it has translated and my
Starting point is 00:29:55 advice is all Americans you want to beat COVID put down the bowl of ice cream get off the couch and go for a walk like start being a better you huge advocate for cream get off the couch and go for a walk like start start being a better you i am uh this huge advocate for no starch no grain uh no sugar i'm uh it has transformed my you got covered twice yeah but it's transformed my physiology and stuff god who knows what would
Starting point is 00:30:19 yeah i i i'm for some people that the the insulin is a major story by the way i was talking to mike catherwood a guy i used to do the swole patrol podcast with and he was telling me that a lot of these bodybuilders that are dropping dead all over the place he thinks it's because they've been really taking lots of insulin which i didn't know they were doing. That is very dangerous to take insulin above what your body needs. Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah. I remember seeing one of the, I'll leave them nameless.
Starting point is 00:30:55 One of the guys that I was wrestling with when he got released from the company, we were at a workout somewhere and I thought he was a type one diabetic or a type two diabetic. And he said, no, I do this. This is how I keep the body fat out. You want abs, this is the way to do it. Jesus. So it's not uncommon.
Starting point is 00:31:16 I mean, a lot of people, bodybuilding in itself, the amount of stuff that they go through, there's just not a big enough payday. And while the men, it's bad for the the women it's even worse because they have bad trainers who don't always tell them the side effects of testosterone they don't tell them your voice like they make mistakes and say oh you'll get your voice back and you can have children when you're done doing this stuff and they they couldn't be wronger you know because it's basically the way our bodies work you get an injection of testosterone as a woman, your body starts changing. Mother Nature is very simple in its complexness.
Starting point is 00:31:50 We have a certain amount of testosterone and a certain amount of estrogen. And when you mess with that, your body's going to adapt to it and be like, oh, well, and then you'll start having male characteristics or vice versa or whatever, which for mental health reasons has got to be even more troubling. You know, because I think the stuff they, I don't think we realize necessarily all the chemicals and stuff that we put in our body trying to get a great physique. I don't always think about what it does to our mental strength and health. And I think sometimes it's true. Exacerbate are because for some guys, no matter how in shape they get they always see something wrong in the mirror and that has nothing to do with their body that's something with mental they're never big enough they're never you know they got to get bigger and bigger and then it's
Starting point is 00:32:31 to the point where like the average person sees them and they're like dear god why would you do that to yourself but he'll be looking at himself going man i'm if i could just get another inch on this bicep you know my whole life would turn around and it's just it's it's psychological i don't we never see anyone doing psychological oh yeah interested to see that is body dysmorphia it's body dysmorphia full on uh and again something katherine has talked about but but also again we're talking about extra physiological doses of testosterone non-physiological things that people shouldn't be exposed or would never be exposed to in nature, different than testosterone replacement therapy, which I'm a fan of. This is extra physiologic testosterone. And to your point about that, for the men, for the women,
Starting point is 00:33:16 yes, they can have hair growth and voice changes and things that never come back and fertility issues. For the men, I've seen all kinds of erectile dysfunction and libido problems that are really problematic afterwards now i know they've come up with strategies to try to deal with that cycling and all this stuff i i don't know i i can't imagine it's uh does that much taking all that insulin but let's it's a lot to put to risk your manhood on some some guy in the back of a gym giving you some stuff that injected your arm i just you know but you know yeah yeah done the right drone is a beautiful thing but it's typically in these situations it's not being done the right way so one of the things um tyrus is more known for is his political commentary, which I always appreciate.
Starting point is 00:34:06 He always has an interesting take on things. Recently, we had a couple of speeches from President Biden, Vice President Harris. And I'm wondering particularly how you reacted to Vice President Harris's speech comparing January 6th to 9-11 and Pearl Harbor. I'm wondering what you thought about that. You know, thousands of people lost their lives and the nation was changed forever. And those two events and those two events in themselves were very, very different and nothing you can't compare. I hate when everyone compares anything. But January 6 is, I would call it an ugly event where, you know, Capitol Police and the rioters or terrorists, whatever you want to call them, that did what they did in those
Starting point is 00:35:02 days were the victims, but it was significantly smaller than what we saw in our neighborhoods across this country. I just, I always find it funny whenever anything happens to a government official, it is a natural, it's an outrage and the country should be shocked and we should spend millions of taxpayer dollars finding out who did it, even when we have all the people in custody already. But yet when a store, a mom and pop shop is burnt down and the husband's head's been beaten in with a brick or a man steps out to stop people and is shot in the street. And we still don't have answers for that. And we have complete communities completely destroyed. But those are no problem.
Starting point is 00:35:42 They're out of the news cycle in two weeks. So when I hear politicians talking about how they were afraid, and it was a bad thing. And every one of those people, they were dumb enough to be on camera. The FBI did a phenomenal job of getting everybody involved to the point where even the people who were making the calls are getting wrapped up and locked up, and they're getting hit with real sentences. So as far as I'm concerned, January 6th incident is what I prefer to call it, was it's just when it happened to them. But look what they had all there for them. They had the amazing Capitol Police protecting them and saving them and keeping them out of harm's way. The people on the street didn't have the Capitol Police there. They didn't have the
Starting point is 00:36:24 FBI agents there in secret service risking their lives to Capitol Police there. They didn't have the FBI agents there in Secret Service risking their lives to keep them safe. Let's not want the senators, although they were scared, they weren't physically attacked and hurt, whereas store owners in this country who literally are getting dragged out, their entire life taken before them, and then once it's over, you maybe get an interview.
Starting point is 00:36:47 There's no outrage there. One side of the political aisle will say, ah, it was a peaceful protest. How is it a peaceful protest when there's a fire in the back? You know, it's just the whenever something happens to politicians and it's a good narrative for them. The January 6th thing is going to be used to death for the Democratic Party because they think that's their key of turning around midterms and securing the 2024 election, which to me is just ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:37:18 What would fix all that is deeds, getting things done, not being in this weird, woke, progressive fantasy land of policies that make zero sense. You know, you're so focused on Build Back America, even best case scenario with those things, you won't see the potholes fixed in your road in 10 years. We have things in this country we need fixed now. You need to fix the border now. You need to deal with inflation now. You need to figure out a way of getting people back to work because you have made it a business not to work the dynamic in this country has changed and some of it's good in terms of the workers have more say but now we're just seeing small business owners and companies just
Starting point is 00:37:57 be fleeced to where they got to pay ridiculous amounts of wages for for work that doesn't honestly earn that you shouldn't be paid 21 an hour to work at mcdonald's i'm sorry i worked at arby's i worked at mcdonald's the whole point of those jobs is you bust your butt and you move up to other stuff they're not permanent place you shouldn't this whole idea of this ninth place theory where every job is the job you should have for life uh is shocking so when harris says things like this, it only hurts her. Americans are like, yeah, what happened on that hill should not have happened. And you know what? Thank God that there was the Capitol Police there. And thank you that they had all this protection that the elite have
Starting point is 00:38:36 that regular Americans don't have because if that same group decided to rush, let's say, I don't know, the Staples Center, what would have happened? The workers, the concessions, the fans in there, done. If they decided they're going to go get the Lakers because the Lakers can't win a game and there was no security there, what would happen? We'd all be like, oh my God, or even worse, a church. They decided to pick out a church and drag everybody out because they believe something different than them. There's no protection there. So maybe this is insensitive, but I feel for them, for those who were scared and afraid and went through that,
Starting point is 00:39:10 and they shouldn't have had to go through that, but it was handled rather well. And I think it's a disservice to the men and women of the FBI and the CIA and the Capitol Police and the local police that did a great job apprehending everyone. And let's not forget Americans in their communities. It was people on Facebook going, I know that guy he i'm friends and phone so america came together and literally every one of them the the shamanaut who went and painted his face up and got the nice thing he's looking at so much jail now he will never even look twice at a political building and think yeah i want to go in there so I just don't see the argument. It has nothing to do whether you're red or blue or whatever your your affiliation is. If it's being beat to death because they think it's a political narrative and
Starting point is 00:39:55 they're still turning their backs on Americans who are who don't have the Capitol Police to rescue them when when people come in, you know, even in California, Beverly Hills. I mean, we're now seeing Facebook teams of 80 running to smash a building, spray bear spray in security guards' eyes, beat them with sticks and clubs. A friend of mine, I couldn't even believe when I heard this, his friend was getting gas and he was shot. And luckily it grazed off the top of his head and his wife was beaten to death by a mob for no other reason than they were just in the way. Because there's no police to come in L.A. right now.
Starting point is 00:40:30 The time it takes for him to get out and to call, the criminal has time to be gone and then come back with his friends and videotape the investigation. And if they arrest him, he's out before they can even have the press conference. So I'm sorry if this is a long, drawn-out, I don't care so much about what the president or the vice president has to say about January 6th, because that's been dealt with and dealt with at a high level. And I'm satisfied as an American citizen that that group won't try that again. But the other groups who are doing these horrible things on the streets have been in power. It is interesting, having been around the country a little bit lately, you forget when you live on the coasts how different the thinking and the experience is in the middle of the country.
Starting point is 00:41:14 I mean, California has been so locked down this whole pandemic. I was in Texas last week, and I was like, oh, that's right. The rest of the country doesn't live like that. It's so stunning when you're out in the world and you feel ashamed and withdrawn. Like, oh, am I okay? Do I have to be worried that somebody's going to judge me or attack me or try to shame me? No, no. People go about their life, live their life. And schools are open. Everything's fine. They have a little Omicron outbreak. Yep, everybody's good. It really is something else.
Starting point is 00:41:51 The whole idea, I'm wondering what you think of this idea of the mass delusional psychosis. I've been talking about that for a while. I first sort of characterized it as we have become histrionic in this country the new way of describing that same phenomenon is this mass psychosis or mass formation psychosis which is essentially that you know people have been made afraid that was the first thing i saw happening that scared that worried the hell out of me because i knew panic would not make things better and then focusing people's attention on one thing. So they have trouble really bringing in other objective data.
Starting point is 00:42:29 That's hypnosis. And that creates really kind of extreme views. And it seems like we've been through that. What do you think? Yeah, well, we're seeing that. We continue to see that, you know, and, you know, to your point, when you talk about real America, real America is not on Twitter and rarely makes the news. It's the extreme of that we do or the messaging. And when you see them saying, you know, you know, you have one network that's running the death toll from COVID every day and how many people are infected and it's in all different colors and it's the end of the world as we know it and then when you actually sit down and look at the statistics of stuff it's like cancer is still
Starting point is 00:43:09 the undefeated champ you know and we're still looking at the cold and the flu and and the percentages but it was when you create and we've seen this happen a lot attempted a lot it gets attempted a lot in politics is they make the monster out of hot air because you can control it You can make it bigger and you can make it smaller and you can end it whenever you want to or which is what most of the what we're seeing with kovat is you can continue it for as long as you want to because You're just throwing stuff out there. It's hot air. You can get that from anywhere to keep it going. So in America's unfortunately, we watch too much tv and we don't ask enough questions and we don't fact check or we don't watch a show that we don't like
Starting point is 00:43:51 you know you only watch what you want to hear and that's where you become susceptible becoming influences like one of the things that and it also goes i go ahead one of the things the new shows that I hate on purpose. So I can kind of get an idea because the opinion is completely different than mine. And even, and you can ask Ingrid, I'll yell back at the TV, like, are you kidding me? How can you say that with a straight face? But I'm putting myself through that so where I can understand, at least see where the other side is coming from, to where I have to deal with these people I at least have some blueprint of where to start to try to find some kind of common ground
Starting point is 00:44:30 so I can just get on with my day but we just we're we're the tribalism that you go in the tent you come out hypnotized and you can't hear and you can't speak anything other than what you've heard from inside the tent. So it makes it very difficult in this country when everyone's dealing with absolute truths as true it is to them, opposed to saying, wow, I didn't know that. Here's what my side is saying. What do you think? We're just not we're not seeing that anymore. And it gets to the point even to where when someone disagrees with you, it's the point where it can get physical you know or you want or you'll never speak to them again because you know there can no like i'm a republican before no republican can do wrong
Starting point is 00:45:14 are you crazy have you seen ted cruz uh you know just the name of name one you know democrats got a few on their on their side like every AOC speaks, nothing but bad happens. But who gets the microphone? She's in charge of a small town. Her voting rights is for a small place in New York. That's it. Why are we hearing her on everything under the sun? It's like whenever these congressmen and senators get on TV tv the first thing i said is you're not
Starting point is 00:45:45 doing your job if you got time to do interviews every night on every news network who is doing your job you know you're traveling everywhere you're on vacation president maybe although a president never really gets a vacation i don't think for one minute that if china calls like you tell them i'm in the pool now it's not a good time but just the optics americans don't have haven't had vacations in two years so maybe the politicians can wait you know and and at least yeah do you ever worry would be better let me ask this you you always i i can't characterize you. I always consider you sort of a moderate and you always have a very unique, specific, clear point of view. Do you ever worry that being on Fox news, you're going to get painted with the brush of one of the tents,
Starting point is 00:46:40 you know, since there are sort of two tents out there or maybe three tents, you worry about that? I mean, but I'm too big for one paint color it's just not happening and i will here's the thing about being in the tent you can only stay in the tent if you read the scripture of the tent you don't come in the tent and start talking your own ideas you get banished so i will be in the tent for a little while maybe well i'll get as far as hors d'oeuvres, maybe a slight beverage. And then they'll ask me a question and I'll say, I don't really like that. They'll be like, excuse me? Yeah, that's dumb.
Starting point is 00:47:13 I wouldn't do that. That's stupid. Well, why? What? No, you don't. Are you one of them? Are you a disguise? No, I'm just a dude who says I don't like the paying taxes on thumbtacks.
Starting point is 00:47:24 I just think it's stupid and they'll say get out of the tent what i what i like about what i like about tyrus is that no no first you do you before you get out of the tent you do something else you stand up and that pretty much takes care of everything just the short out of here but he just it comes from a year it came from being someone that who didn't and there's's no way to say it, I didn't give a damn about politics when I was poor and struggling and chasing football. And I didn't care about any of that stuff. I had to deal with real life stuff and keep my lights on. And even as big as I am, believe it or not, miss meal cramps or try and decide, do I want to go out
Starting point is 00:48:00 with my friends this weekend and pretend like I'm successful or actually pay my bills and not have my lights out this weekend. I didn't always make the right decision. You know, so that is my background. Whenever I look at stuff, it always comes from that lights on, lights off mentality. And I think more, and I'm not alone. There's more people like that. But when you're dealing with, here's a perfect example. Fox News gave me a job with no journalistic education because they liked what I did. They thought it was different and they took a chance on me.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Interesting. No one thought it would turn out this way. CNN wouldn't have gave me a job. No way. MSNBC, no way. Fox News, Greg Gutfeld, it was a late night show that was kind of okay
Starting point is 00:48:46 it was like a big he was taking a chance jumping from red-eyed at Gutfeld and uh it was on a Saturday night so the big you know the big the bosses don't watch TV on Saturday nights so you know uh an opportunity you know when I look at uh when I look at like my favorite sports show Undisputed with Shannon and Skip. Shannon, same thing. I think Shannon's the best voice in sports and he doesn't have his journalist. He's just a really brilliant man
Starting point is 00:49:14 who's got a strong opinion and he's educated and he reads books and he's always prepared. And I'm always prepared. And if you do those things, you can have a conversation with anyone if you're prepared. And so that has kind of gave me a more like, I'm going to be myself. I had to learn this lesson.
Starting point is 00:49:31 This is why the WWE was so great for me, because I wasn't always this way. There was a time when I would have done anything just to be on TV, just to get my spot. You know, when Vince and them decided to change my character to the funkasaurus or whatever and at first i was dead against it but then i was like i'm gonna do it because i get to be i'm not gonna lose my spot on tv even though i thought it was long term it'd be great for my career uh you know but i turned it around but in and that wasn't a bad thing is that in my maturity and my time in the wwe i learned from going from just being a pleaser to really focusing on pleasing myself.
Starting point is 00:50:10 And if it's not good for me, then maybe this place isn't good for me. If I don't think it's good, and I'm not talking about, oh, I want you to lose tonight. I don't wanna lose because I'm a tough guy. That's not the issue, is when you're asked to do things in any job and you do it because you don't want to and uh being able to start going you know what i'm just going to be myself and
Starting point is 00:50:31 and the irony was that that's all the wwe ever wanted me to be was myself but i didn't know who i was so i had to you know so they gave me the tools that has and has grown into my career. Well, I also like that Greg, I don't know how this started, but Greg really appreciates you, all of you and what you have to say and your thinking. And he really, he always wants to hear your point of view
Starting point is 00:50:58 because it is often unique. But I have to take a quick break before we go on. You can stay a little while, can't you? 10, 15 minutes? Yes? Yep. Yeah. Okay. So we'll take a quick break before we go on. You can stay a little while, can't you? Another 10, 15 minutes? Yes? Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Okay. So we'll take a quick break and we're going to, I'll let you. Say what, Ted? I said the signal's great. I should have said it out loud. Damn it. But yeah, we're doing good today. That's right.
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Starting point is 00:52:55 taking a little break but they will send you tyrus a blue mic i just need your address uh also so it looks like tyrus's video it froze right when we went into the break so i texted him he's he's oh my god that's too funny right after he said it was a great as soon as as soon as he talks about how great the connection with is it yeah when i get to surprise him with a blue mic so um also we have the bobble head which i'm going to go get in a second um it's in my suitcase is available at drdrew.com slash shop so if you want to go over there and get your dr drew limited edition very proud of her bobblehead and uh thank you to alana for that and uh harley spears had had a really interesting tweet with it today with a brain.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Oh, really? Oh, yeah. We have a contest. So very funny. Take a picture of your or do something on social media with your bobblehead that you might think is funny. Yeah. And put hashtag. Where is Dr. Drew?
Starting point is 00:53:58 Yep. In the thing. And then also make sure we're tagged wherever you do it so we can see it on Instagram. Yep. Fair enough. We get entire respect because I have something I really get to tell them what they win. also make sure we're tagged wherever you do it so we can see it on instagram yep fair enough uh we get entire respect because i have something i really do i get to tell them what they win another bobblehead yeah but an autographed one so i think it's hysterical it'll be worth another
Starting point is 00:54:15 five bucks get the bobblehead and figure out you know put it in elf on the shelf style bobblehead and you will win another bobblehead it's's fantastic. Oh, don't be a dick. I just think it's funny. Drew doesn't realize it because he can sign his name all the time. So he doesn't realize how special that is to a lot of people is to actually get it. Right. You can sell it for a little bit more on eBay.
Starting point is 00:54:39 By the way, Caleb, for those of you that are your mom, for your mom's house fans and a doctor after dark, Susan Pinsky has a couple of appearances coming up that are somewhere between disturbing and mind blowing. So I recommend in about two weeks, three weeks. Oh, this is a good one. Three weeks.
Starting point is 00:55:03 Harley Sears. Can you pull up? Harley Sears. What did I say? Can you pull up his Instagram, this is a good one. Three weeks. Harley Sears. Can you pull up- Harley Sears. What did I say? Can you pull up his Instagram, Caleb, while we wait for Tyrus? I was just thinking- Harley Sears. What is it?
Starting point is 00:55:12 Somewhere between disturbing and profound. What did you just say, Drew? That sounds like- No, between disturbing and mind-blowing. Mind-blowing. That seems like that should be the tagline of the whole show. It's Harley.Sears. Yeah, your mom's house generally is,
Starting point is 00:55:25 is, is sort of teetering between disturbing and mind blowing. And so is Dr. Along with everything over there. Uh, but as love line used to be, I call it COVID brain and other things I've been involved with. The more uncomfortable they can make me,
Starting point is 00:55:40 the more they consider their have succeeded. And, uh, no one can get us there faster than Susan Pinsky. So there you go. I'm sending it to Caleb, the picture of Bobblehead. Yeah, I just sent it via Instagram. So for March, who says Fridays are my favorite with Dr. Jeff I appreciate that for March. But like I said, look forward to Susan Pinsky, just just really destroying the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:56:06 And we'll see where it goes. Then she does another one after that. I know. It was a fun weekend. We had a good time. We coughed our way through the whole thing. Yeah, I had this terrible, ridiculous cough. I know. What is up with that cough? You're a doctor. John Peterson, I had COVID alpha, and then I had the vaccine, and then I got Omicron. And so there you go. I've had lots and lots of COVID. So I'm, I'm making a, um, I've got my Harley Sears, um, submission up. He's the first one. So, you know, somebody else had a great one too. We saw it. Oh, um, Heather, Heather,
Starting point is 00:56:42 Heather fakes it. She didn't even know about the contest, but she already made a picture. It was pretty funny. Really funny. Yeah, go over to Heather underscore fakes underscore it. Yeah. Wait, it's Heather underscore fakes underscore it. Heather fakes it. Yeah, she did a funny one.
Starting point is 00:56:59 It was actually a bobblehead in RPC's colon. Yes. He knew he was supposed to come back for this segment to on today's show is he not susie you want to text it's so odd that i texted him it's so wait there he is there he is yeah i didn't know because he was worried that he was thinking i i was having him come back for some other yeah i probably had to log out. There he is. His kids probably jumped on the Wi-Fi. Renee, my take on COVID in general, listen to the discussion between Peter Attia and ZDogg,
Starting point is 00:57:33 and that summarizes perfectly all my feelings. There he is. I've been the same since the beginning of this thing. So, Tyrus, you with me? He's setting it up. I'm with you. Okay. So I have a really challenging question that I want to get into here with you.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Wait, let him get in his place. All right, get into place. I can see his nose hairs. All right. He's ready. Oh, by the way, Tyrus, before you get started, we're going to send you a blue mic. I just need your address. Which is amazing.
Starting point is 00:58:00 They're amazing mics. They're phenomenal. They are phenomenal. We mentioned it before and we talked about it. But they're our sponsor who have been, but they want to send you a blue mic. Supply and demand. Yeah. Yeah, they were hard to get during COVID.
Starting point is 00:58:18 And they actually have a couple of new ones coming out. But I can't talk about it. Okay. But they're pretty cool okay so there is a new federal policy okay let me let me go back a little bit when the vaccine first rolled out um i got covid trying to get the vaccine from the hospital where I've worked for 40 years. Uh, and I could not access it because it was being reserved for people from risk populations at the time. Okay. And in Los Angeles at the time,
Starting point is 00:58:56 particularly Mexican American, you know, people of Mexican descent were really getting just destroyed by this thing. So I understood the goal and what they were doing at the time. It was kind of foolish from the standpoint of me getting sick because I was going to be a volunteer in their emergency room. So they lost an asset, which seemed foolish to me, but okay. And then it kind of flipped on its head where vaccines went from being restricted to being pushed.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Now we have monoclonal antibodies that are also a limited resource. And we have a really effective antiviral medicine called Paxlovid. And appropriately, the government now has set standards for restricting the access to these two interventions. And they include sort of severity of illness standards, like what's your oxygen saturation and how old are you and are you obese and this kind of stuff. But they threw in and actually doubled the impact of being from black or brown communities. So if you're white, it's really hard for you to get these things. And in fact, I have somebody in the hospital right now who's having real serious trouble because he couldn't get monoclonal antibodies. And I understand what they're trying to do.
Starting point is 01:00:21 I get it. What are you, what are your, I'm struggling with it though, because I've had patients do poorly who should have gotten these things and couldn't because they weren't from a risk population, even though it was clear clinically, they were going to have trouble. So what's what the problem I have with it is not the intent. I get the intent and I, and I fully endorse it. What I'm having trouble with is when a physician says, no, this is somebody who's going to get into trouble. I can see it evolving. It's going to be a problem. That has no meaning in the equation that leads to whether or not somebody is going to get an intervention that could save their life. And that's the part I'm struggling with.
Starting point is 01:01:06 How do you help me with this? Well, first of all, Doc, you got to pull up the big boy pants and say you don't agree with it. Because I don't agree with it as a black man. When it comes to medicine, it should always be case by case. Everyone should have the same, no more, no less, opportunity to medicines, regardless of their color or the orientation or whatever. But in that same thing, if you're going to say, okay, we're going to take care of black and brown first. And I get it. There are certain people in the, in the social rights, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:37 the social Liberty movement or whatever, but like about damn time, this isn't the line at the water fountain. This is about people's lives. But let me push you back. Let me push back though. Let me, I'm going to keep my big point. Go ahead. Finish. Yeah. Finish. Another caveat to that. Okay. If you're not going to tell though, if you're not going to tell the group the truth, you're not going to be real with them.
Starting point is 01:02:03 If you're not going to say some of the things that you do in your culture make you more susceptible to covet your your diet your lack of trust in medical physicians your in your inability to always do the right things in terms of financially what you need to do for yourself when it comes to health not waiting till the last minute to see a doctor some of the things that culturally that my the african-americans that we sometimes don't always do um the diet some of us you know we're not we're eating stuff that we shouldn't eat if we're trying our best but they're scared to say though so instead of saying what really needs to be said because doctors are supposed to be about the truth and sometimes the
Starting point is 01:02:45 truth sucks but we're getting a point now where if you ask a patient their weight you get shamed for it so how the hell can you even deal with say covid and whether you're susceptible or not if i can't even get individuals to be honest about what they're eating and how they're taking care of themselves so that's why well feel like it's... is the failure of my profession. And so shouldn't my profession be doing everything it can to equalize the scale, even if it means doing something really, it's sort of pernicious and difficult. I mean, think about it. We've done some, it's not unreasonable for black and brown people to distrust the medical community. It's not unreasonable.
Starting point is 01:03:44 We've done some shitty things in the past. And I'm not just, you know, people point at the Tuskegee experiments. There's many, many, many more. There's many more things. The question sort of becomes, is this the right time or the way to settle that score? Okay, well, here's another thing when's the last time in your memory that that you could remember the hospital going out and or doctors going out and going after a certain race when's the last time how many people that are a lot they are affected by the horrors of
Starting point is 01:04:19 what happened in the past i mean here's a perfect example there was just an article that came out dr drew that said senators and congressmen had over 12 000 slaves historically between them all and you know i was like no because everyone had slaves back then so what are we going to do about it now they got away with it okay they're in there ever after. And here's the thing, even in my own culture, there was black Americans who had slaves. I mean, it was an ugly period, but it has nothing to do with what you're doing right now. Opportunity in this country is available for everyone. Medical professions didn't fail in terms of,
Starting point is 01:05:01 you can only do so much. You have to go to the doctor. Two, you have to believe, you have to take care of your own so much you have to go to the doctor two you have to believe you have to take care of your own self you have to put education first mainstream media you can blame a lot of it but when you see like when you see when you ask kids what they want to be when they grow up and they all pick the most unrealistic fields because that's all they're seeing is a Sprite commercial saying that you can sing and dance and dunk a basketball or catch a basketball or be an action movie. Less than 0.01% of the country ever attains those type of things.
Starting point is 01:05:34 But when you have unrealistic goals or you set role models that way, everybody wants to be Scarface and nobody wants to be the detective who's arresting him. That's on the group. And the medical profession is scared if a doctor comes out and says, Listen, stop eating, let's say stop eating fried chicken and fried foods, period. It's not good for you. It's horrible. Genetically, it's not good for you. And we need to go forward. I get it. You I get it. It was in the past. It was custom. We need to change that. A lot of flour tortillas are not healthy. You should change that.
Starting point is 01:06:08 And a lot of white physicians. We have finally made the effort to make the physician population look like the general American population in fact maybe we're going to do a pretty good job of that I think going forward you know we're but again we're not putting the emphasis on being doctors how many kids do you see dressing up in Halloween to be a doctor they'd rather be The Walking Dead doctor is Halloween to be fair but you're right you're right but that's again it it is again about implicit biases and there's a lot of stuff built into the medical system that that we needed to pay attention to yeah yeah you're right you're not wrong you're you're not wrong but but it is a it is a really interesting kind of a question that i i am with. And, you know, the last time I saw the medical profession really do a shitty job was around the crack epidemic where I was,
Starting point is 01:07:12 thankfully I was seeing my crack patients as patients. They were just sick people like every other people with substance use disorder, but the sort of lit and by the way, led by Joe Biden and the legislatures and the law enforcement saw them as bad people and criminals. That was unconscionable. That was unconscionable. It all came along, and then the white population got a little taste of what it's like.
Starting point is 01:07:35 And they're saying the same things. What it really comes down to in this country, the color of your skin is honestly irrelevant. It's how deep are your pockets. And if you go into a poor white neighborhood, they are getting the same shit under the stick as poor black neighborhoods, as poor Hispanic neighborhoods. But the difference is poor white neighborhoods don't get press. And they are not used as a crutch for narratives and explanations because at the end of the day, America is about individual achievement. It's not about group movements. No, everyone is, when you move your family up, when you change your tax bracket, you don't take your neighborhood with you. That's not how it works. And one of the things the mainstream media loves to do is always keep us Blacks together. We vote together. We are so dynamically different
Starting point is 01:08:26 in so many different ways from our gene pool, from what part of Africa we were from, from Australia, if we were from the West Indies. We have our bloodlines are so, then you got to do all the mixing when it came in this country, all the slave masters who couldn't keep their eyes and their hands off it. We are a very dynamic, different group. And when you throw us all into one little word like black, it's really, you're just missing it. So it sounds good. Black's this. And again, Hispanics, same thing. You're from Mexico. You're completely different than someone who's from Cuba. Or Nicaragua or El Salvador. Yeah. They're all from different places, just like in Ireland, Scotland, although you can make an argument, they're so close. It's
Starting point is 01:09:10 ridiculous. But the point is, is that we have all these differences and we love to just kind of bunch them in together when it comes down to, here's the bottom line. You want to fight COVID, you want to deal with things, stop eating bad food, you know, and stop. But it's not even just that. It's so much easier to give somebody five hundred dollars a week. And it's not even welfare stamps. When I was a kid was like you had to pay with a welfare stamp. So nobody wanted to do that. You know, it was almost like an incentive to get you get your situation going. Some situations can't be helped. And that's why those programs are in place. But for a lot of us, it's a good kick in the ass. Oh, it's a fashionable credit card that you literally can go through a drive through and get food. So there is literally no outside influence to improve. It's like good enough. And it's in poor white neighborhoods, poor black. Then there's no difference. They're treated the exact same. They do the exact same crimes, trying to get it, taking penitentiary chances,
Starting point is 01:10:10 penitentiary chances with little education. You always end up, it's the same situation. And then what do you do? You don't fix the neighborhoods, you lock their asses up. And then now you're dealing with situations where a guy who's buying drugs is in the jail just as long as somebody who murdered his girlfriend. And that is the real problem. It has to do with the way that our government officials, when they get in, they take care of their own and they have no concern for the lower class. And that, unfortunately, Doc, there is no prescription for that. And there's nothing that you can do about it. And you're handcuffed because when you do speak out, they try to ruin you. And you know it better than anyone else.
Starting point is 01:10:50 And so would you say that class is really the conversation we need to have? Class distinctions, income. The only color that matters in this country is green, baby. That's the only thing that matters. How much green you got, how much crypto you got, how much gold you got, how much lands you own. That is how you get treated with dignity and respect. And if you got a cough, you'll have eight doctors and a priest at your house to get it out because you can afford it. And if you don't have the means, you're just in the way. And that's as
Starting point is 01:11:21 real as it gets. And I know it firsthand. You know, I grew up in exactly that situation. I mean, it's just, and I saw it firsthand. And one of the things that inspired me to fight all the time is because I just didn't like it. I really didn't like not being able to have things and not being able to take care of my family and not being able to, if I want a nice hat and I can't buy it because I ain't got no damn money or I couldn't play on the football team because my mother couldn't afford the price of all the pads and stuff. So I had to wait till I got to high school. But, you know, the one thing that the lower, I think that was different in my generation is that we all, most of us had that hunger and that accountability and that want for
Starting point is 01:12:05 more. And we're seeing, because we didn't have so many golden tickets not to do anything. It was like you had two choices or three choices. You join the military, you go to school, or you end up in the penitentiary. Those are the choices. It was very, you're going to end up one of the up, you know, and everyone was really trying to avoid the penitentiary one but nowadays they're like what what do you think i have my own youtube page i might say what you know it's just we're going through we're just going through a different a tough time of first world problems where everyone is so safe and so fat literally you know bill maher got in all that trouble for telling the truth he just showed pictures of america over the, you know, we just were eating the wrong foods. We're watching too much TV. We're relying too much on the government for help. And then we want to go, but the doctors aren't doing anything for us. And the doctor asked me to step on a scale. He can't do that. Well, how's he supposed to tell you to treat you if he can't
Starting point is 01:13:05 check your blood and see how much you weigh and all that kind of stuff? Yeah, it only sucks if you're not doing what you're supposed to be doing, but we're not allowed to hold people accountable anymore. So as a doctor, it's going to be tough right now because we're going through this kind of revolution right now of what we have one group that's like, nope. We work hard. We're Americans We kick ass and take names and we have the other group was like, nope. Let's just invent problems. We're all good We're all the same. We all share and You know, and if you don't like us, we'll just get rid of you socially so it's it's a it's a really it's a weird battle right now because it's just
Starting point is 01:13:41 The identity of this country are we gonna be a bunch of gamers or are we going to roll our sleeves up and get back to work? And I just, it's tough. I don't know what side's winning because the only side that gets pressed is the progressive side. And I don't think they're really that big of a number, but the illusion is.
Starting point is 01:14:00 I think there's more Americans who are ready to get back to work and do their thing than there are. And less people that are worried about the doctors being racist, more opposed to the insurance company raising rates or the cost of insulin, which was sold to the American government for one dollar, is literally four hundred and ten dollars on a good day to six hundred dollars for one valve how he's type one diabetics are and then now we have this explosion of type two diabetics which is correctable which you shouldn't do and the type one diabetic that who can't change it are literally running out of supplies because we are getting to the point where it's not oh you have type two diabetes don't worry we're going to give you all this since you're going to be fine instead of like you need to get on a diet this isn't't right. There are real people with real insulin problems,
Starting point is 01:14:48 and you aren't one of them. And all you've got to do is start taking care of yourself. But we don't do that anymore in this country. So I don't know, Doc. It's a tough revolution, and it's going to be interesting to see how things turn out. Well, I like your optimism in saying that most people just want to get down to work and get back to the basics of living and taking care of their family and their loved ones and i i think that is true i do think also truth generally has a way of emerging and particularly in this brilliant system we unfortunately live in but i hope also after people listening to you people get the sense of why greg gutfeld loves you so much. He loves your opinions.
Starting point is 01:15:25 He loves hearing what you have to say. And he's always delighted when he turns to you, as am I. And so we're going to have to leave it right there. I really appreciate you coming in today. Yeah, they're saying, Tyrus be speaking the hard truth. He always speaks the truth. And he always has a very clear, interesting perspective that I can't have that same perspective. Because I'm not afraid.
Starting point is 01:15:49 I'm not. Well, no, no, it's not. No, no. I can give you an injection of, I know this is your show and I'm just going to say it. I don't have fuck you money yet, but I still have a I don't give a fuck attitude. Speak your mind and you will sleep well at night. I have been fired so many times i don't care anymore it's like bernie max says you don't understand i'm not afraid
Starting point is 01:16:10 the doctor loves me because i will say what he won't because i'm not afraid and at the same but i'm not an idiot i can speak it without but but i'm like i'm not afraid. You got to understand, I am not afraid of getting things wrong. I mean, I'm not afraid of speaking my truth. What I'm afraid of is getting things wrong and being hubristic because I get into trouble when I do that. And so I'm always trying to struggle with stuff. Once I get to it. Yeah, you're going to get to it, but you're going to be wrong a couple of times. But that's what's so beautiful about it.
Starting point is 01:16:45 Yeah. Yeah. When you make a mistake or misdiagnosis, you're the first one to be like, I missed that. How many people have you seen go on air going, you know what? I was wrong about this one. There's new data. Let's see what the new data is. They don't double down.
Starting point is 01:16:59 If you don't believe in me, then you don't believe in America. And anyone who says something bad about Dr. Drew is a communist. I would support that. I would that because america loves you but and also there's is that a black man can go on tv and say whatever the hell he wants and an old white man is terrified to say i disagree excuse me so you know i think i think uh i guess the question would be like how's it feel doc because it feels great would be like yo don't say that you you're i i welcome this input and by the way i get the same shit from corolla all the time he accuses me of
Starting point is 01:17:44 being sort of afraid to talk about these things and i and i don't feel it as fear i feel it as cautiousness i what you're just you're so nice to a fault you are nice to a fault yes that's true you honestly listen i'm selfish i'll admit it uh if you're offended i don't care uh if you like it same thing. You know, people always talk about their negative comments. I think the good comments are just as bad as it gives you a big head. So, you know, you should already know what it is, not what your comments say. But, you know, Doc, you're a class act, man.
Starting point is 01:18:16 And don't ever be don't ever feel bad for being above it because you have always been above it. And it has not been easy. So I'm very kind. i i miss you and we have some yeah we'll have you back more often well we have some interesting news coming out about you soon maybe we'll bring you back just to announce it or something then we'll definitely be talking about it all right we'll do that and i really appreciate when you spend your time with us and it always helps me and i hope it helps my my listeners as well to get a dose of Tyrus. So I'm going to.
Starting point is 01:18:49 Also, send me your address. I want to send you that mic. Get you that mic. Get your address. Hold on. You blocked out. I couldn't hear that. What was that?
Starting point is 01:18:59 Oh, I said I'm definitely sending that address. All right. All right, my friend. We'll talk to you soon. We'll announce the news before a week or so. I know. I'm so glad that you came on to give us that good news. And I will make an effort to get out there to see Mr. Gutfeld when you're in there.
Starting point is 01:19:15 So we'll see you soon. We'll be back. All right, my friend. Take care. Take care. And I have to run to a local news broadcast right now. Right now? Well, I have to prep for it right now.
Starting point is 01:19:29 Oh, okay. So, Susan, where can they get these guys? DrG.com slash shop. There it is. Everyone's very excited about these. I don't know. Maybe we should have the vibrator made out of it so that we can send that. That is for after dark, my dear.
Starting point is 01:19:40 That is for after dark. That is not for this. Caleb, I told you. It's between, what did I say, terror and horror? What did I have to say? Mind-blowing and intriguing. Dropping that in right there.
Starting point is 01:19:52 So thank you Clubhouse for hanging out. We're gonna end the room there. We appreciate you guys being here. Thank you, Caleb, for producing this. Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Caleb Nation and Susan Pinsky. As a reminder, the discussions here are not a substitute for medical care, diagnosis, or treatment. This show is intended for educational and informational purposes only. I am a licensed physician, but I am not a replacement for your personal doctor,
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