Ask Dr. Drew - Riots R Us: Which Radical NGOs (And A Walmart Heiress) Are Funding Los Angeles Unrest w/ Brian O’Shea & DC Draino – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 494

Episode Date: June 14, 2025

Brian O’Shea & DC Draino reveal evidence NGOs and Christy Walton (a billionaire Walmart heir) are funding LA riots, alleging connections to Indivisible and the CCP. DC Draino discusses Trump’s National Guard deployment to curb unrest and s court ruling against CA Governor Gavin Newsom’s attempts to stop the deployment of Guardsmen to federal properties in Los Angeles. Brian O’Shea is an investigative journalist at Daily Clout and host of Unrestricted Invasion. With 30 years in military and government intelligence, he holds a master’s in Criminal Justice from Boston University. More at https://x.com/BrianOSheaSPI Rogan O’Handley, known as DC Draino, is a former entertainment lawyer turned conservative commentator with over 7 million followers. He graduated from the University of Chicago Law School. More at https://x.com/DC_Draino 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 Find out more about the brands that make this show possible and get special discounts on Dr. Drew's favorite products at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/sponsors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • ACTIVE SKIN REPAIR - Repair skin faster with more of the molecule your body creates naturally! Hypochlorous (HOCl) is produced by white blood cells to support healing – and no sting. Get 20% off at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/skinrepair⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/fatty15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/paleovalley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • VSHREDMD – Formulated by Dr. Drew: The Science of Cellular Health + World-Class Training Programs, Premium Content, and 1-1 Training with Certified V Shred Coaches! More at ⁠⁠https://vshredmd.com/⁠⁠ • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twc.health/drew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠) and Susan Pinsky (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/firstladyoflov⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠e⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Well, more on Governor Newsom today and his failed state. Brian O'Shea joins us, investigative journalist, Daily Cloud and host of Unrestricted Invasion, 30 years of military and government intelligence. He has some insights into what he thinks is going on here and how it's funded. You can follow Brian on BRIANO'SHEASPI on X. And then Rogan O'Hanley, we are only allowing individuals of Irish, R-I-A-N O'Shea, S-H-E-A-S-P-I on X.

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The Fisetin cleans up sort of debris and inflammatory debris of old and dead tissue. All right, let's get to Brian O'Shea. Brian, again, that is vshredmd.com. I want you to go Brian O'Shea. Investigate everything, dailyclot.io. And thank you, Brian. Tell us what is behind the riots in Los Angeles. Brian O'Shea, investigate everything, dailyclot.io. And thank you, Brian.

Tell us what is behind the riots in Los Angeles. We were watching your stream and your podcast, and again, Susan started screaming at the phone she was holding. I'm a big fan. And said, we've got to get Brian in here right away. So go ahead, what's behind all this? This seems to be a party of literally

every communist organization in the country coming together to not only get these LA riots going, but it seems like the LA riots are a dress rehearsal for the No Kings protest coming up on June 14th, this weekend, all over the country and in other parts of the world. And so no King's protest, is that something that's likely to be violent

or is it going to be just a quiet demonstration that is specifically what we are protected in our rights as Americans? Not to be violent as somehow that is also protected. That is not, criminality is not protected. Exactly. Well, don't forget that these LA protests were also scheduled to be peaceful. And so anytime the same organizations, and it is the same organizations,

organizations such as Indivisible, the Revcoms, Revolutionary Communists of America. It's all the same actors that we saw back when you had me on the show about the Ruth sent us protests after the Roe v. Wade decision. So based on their history, I expect them to be be violent. Now, I will say all of their websites say, these are peaceful. This is the law. This is how you do it. As a matter of fact, I attended the peaceful protest training last night on zoom that was being hosted by no Kings. And

it was actually put on by ACLU. But what happens is, I think it's kind of like Odysseus in the Odyssey, where they were escaping from the Cyclops. And to get away from the Cyclops after they blinded him, they got underneath his sheep and they rode out on the sheep and he felt the top of them to see if there were any men riding on the sheep to get out. They snuck out.

I think the peaceful protesters who, I believe a lot of them legitimately either just like protests or kind of believe in this stuff. And they're used as the sheep to get the violent protesters in. So there is intention, intentionality in the violent protesters, or at least a sort of tacit invitation to them.

What about something you were talking about in your stream about these people dressed as construction workers and the CCP and also coming in under the underbelly of the sheep? Yeah, well, as it turns out, yes, they were dressed like construction workers, but due to my incredibly informative training by the ACLU last night where I attended as anonymous, those are people called marshals. And what marshals are is they wear the construction vest, and those are the people illegal aliens or protesters that get in trouble can try to run to if they need help are the people illegal aliens or protesters that get in trouble can try to run to

if they need help are the marshals. And then the marshals are in direct contact with the security personnel who I'm gonna try to identify this weekend. I happen to live in Boston. I could take my pick of protests. And so there aren't, you aren't as concerned about there being other country bad actors involved in this.

So I'm sure they're involved somewhere. I really, I just assume all of these massive, well coordinated, almost military, militarily precise protests definitely have foreign actors. Don't forget that the action network, which is funded by ActBlue, is that CRM or, you know, customer resource management system that was used to organize a lot of the protests up through 2024, where you can basically get access to that with a credit card and there are no credit

checks. This is in the best interest of everyone from real estate interest to foreign governments causing unrest in this country. And there's a lot of things coming up. As this is happening, we have China literally surrounding not only Taiwan in military drills, but also they've planted their flags on some northern Filipino islands in the last 10 days. So I always try to zoom in and zoom out. While everyone's focused on this, National Guard is focused on this, we do have to pay

attention to our borders and unrest in other cities. And if indeed these are supposed to be peaceful protests, who brought in the cinder blocks and the hammers to break up the cinder blocks and throw at law enforcement? Well, that is the million dollar question. I doubt we'll get to see the footage of who dropped off entire pallets of what looks like Home Depot and Lowe's bricks on every street corner. Families of the Home Depot workers.

Well, that's my other question. Who has been arrested other than criminals? Has there actually been people collaterally dragged in by ICE? There was one guy arrested who was in charge of one of the larger groups he's been released. For the size of these protests and the amount of violence, which as you know, I tuned

in Sunday, Saturday afternoon and ran a live stream the whole time. So I've been watching it beginning to end, um, for the amount of violence, uh, destruction, outright assaults on police. It's been, you know, I won't say a handful of arrests, but a very small size of arrests that you'd expect. The good news is they are arresting them. Yeah, I mean, that's very small for the city of LA. That's the only amount of people that have been arrested. Yeah.

And also I think those are mostly people that were defying the curfew, right? Isn't that a lot of it? No, no, all together, it's been 95, which seems really low. Well, Brian, go ahead. Go ahead. Finish. Finish it off, please. No, I was going to say that it's interesting that up until, I believe Sunday night or maybe even Monday night, there was barely any LAPD interaction, uh, with all these violent riots. Um, it,

then they had this outsized response from police stations as far away as like, you know, Fernando Valley and you know, all these surrounding police stations and counties where they just had this big line of police cars is very performative. And that I think was in direct response to, you know, Trump, President Trump sending in Marines or getting them ready to go in

Well Brian tell us more about your podcast your daily cloud before he goes, okay The the billionaire who Walton is Christie Walton. No, there's one there's one that is in China or in Shanghai Yes, we're saying about him So Roy Singham is the husband of Jodie Evans. Jodie Evans is the founder of you may remember Code Pink, who was against all the Iraq wars and all that. She used to be very pro-human rights and anti-CCP. She met Roy Singham, who shares an office with Xinhua newsnet in China. He's also got, he's wanted in several African countries for being basically a propagandistic warlord. Um, this according to the New York Times in August, 2024. And he, um, seems to be behind everything, uh, money-wise, but he also comes from that CRM world, like

Salesforce and everything. And so what I'm trying to do right now is I'm trying to connect him to some of these action networks and open collectives, these mobilize.us, some of these sites that people, these protesters use to organize. And I'll say it again, Dr. Drew, and you mentioned that a long time ago, I still don't understand why people on the other side of the aisle are not getting organized in the same way.

These tools are out there. I don't want to promote them, but we need to do something like this because it's highly efficient and it gets a lot of people on the street really quickly from anywhere in the world. But what would the, see, I think that the people that are attracted to,

and I hope DC Dreidel's, that Rogan's listening to this too, because I wanted this, something I want to address with him. I think people that are drawn in, Christie Walton is like out of Central Casting. There's a certain personality style that is no longer interested in getting things done. They're interested in discharging emotion and not just discharging theatrics into not just discharging emotion, but their own aggressive impulses. They have to disavow and see them as out there. And then they have to take those emotions they do have

as a result of seeing only aggression outside of themselves and inject those feelings into the world, which is why you see so many women with the megaphones yelling at the cops and stuff. Where did they go? What did they get done? Nothing, nothing. This has been going on for years. And when this all started, I kept asking. Where did they go? What did they get done? Nothing, nothing. This has been going on for years.

And when this all started, I kept asking, what do they want? What do they, what do they, okay, you're on the streets, you want some, what do you, in the 60s, when there was demonstration, there was equal rights amendment now, get out of Vietnam now. That was why people hit the streets.

There was a very specific intent. Now it's about, look, Christy's about discharging, I care so much. They don't care so much. Look at what they did to the people in New York. The people, the actual citizens were so severely harmed and inconvenienced, they don't give a shit about that. Oh, but I care. I care. No, you don't care. You want to perform. And I don't think anyone on the other side is interested in performing. They're interested in getting things done.

And so policy, politics, maybe organizing better politically, I don't think unless you can see something that organizing other than creating horrible conflict between two mobs, is there anything else you can see accomplishing by a right leaning mob? No, I see accomplishing by a right-leaning mob? I'm talking, no, I'm not advocating for a right-leaning mob.

What I'm advocating for is the more organized use of tools such as this to get people to get out the vote, people registered, that sort of thing. I think Scott Pressler did a good job with that, but this is their go-to thing. Like everyone had, they all have these apps on their phones and they don't just use them for the violent mobs. They do use these to get out the vote.

They do use these to get out for the midterms for everything. But with that said, to your point about the emotions, you're absolutely right. And it's interesting when I had Xi Van Fleet, she's the former China, she lived through the Red Terror in China. I spoke to her. Yeah. She's wonderful. And, but she mentioned something to me that I never knew before, and that's the Red Guard,

which is very much like Antifa back in Mao's time. They were all upper middle class kids. They weren't farmers. Of course. And just like these, a lot of these crazy people you see out there, the organizers, the people at the center are Apple upper middle class kids right out of, or in college, as far as the emotion goes, I think this is the problem we have when people, you know, recess is not even really much of a thing anymore. For my 13 year old. They barely go outside

There's no adventure for people anymore. So these groups they know how to Get at them in that Joseph Campbell type of way of like this will be your moment this will be the moment where you were part of something bigger than yourself and You know how you get around that I don know, but there are better ways for people to get that emotion out. Because as you've seen, most of them don't even know what they're protesting for. As far as the direction or the goal of these protests,

it's pure communism. The revolution must continue. There is no goal. Jacobins, to some extent, Bolsheviks, same group of people, the Jacobins, some extent, Bolsheviks, same group of people, certainly the Jacobins, they were students, you know, and then in the 1870 revolution, same thing. Okay.

What happened to them though, when they went out to revolt? What happened to who? The Jacobins and the- They eventually got their heads cut off. They eventually, they got their heads cut off. But in the meantime, they disrupted the government such as it was, then they took over the bureaucracy that the king had established and Napoleon comes in.

I saw, who said this? Oh, it was, oh, for gosh sakes, I'm blanking on this, a friend of mine. Who's our friend that took us to see the Mets that I was in the desert with? So, Skaramouche. See, Skaramouche said he goes, you know, he goes, Trump is the Napoleon of the culture wars.

And I thought, oh, that's a great frame. That's exactly the way it is. That's exactly what's happening here. So we'll see how that plays out. But Brian, tell people where they can find you, where you want them to go. Give us all the particulars. Sure, please go find me on Rumble.

It's called Investigate Everything with Brian O'Shea or on DailyCloud.io. And you can find me most of the time on X at Brian O'Shea SPI. Thank you, my friend. Talk to you soon. Say hi to Naomi. Talk to you soon. Thank you, my friend. Talk to you soon. Say I don't know. I'll talk to you soon.

Thank you, will do. You got it. All right, now we're going to bring in Rogan O'Hanley, our next gentleman of Irish descent. No, DC Dreno is a former entertainment lawyer, turned conservative commentator, 7 million followers. He's a University of Chicago Law School graduate. You can follow him, DC underscore Draino.

Rogan, welcome. Thank you for having me, Dr. Drew. It's an honor. It's my first time. Pleasure. Pleasure is mine. I imagine you heard some of what was going on in the class conversation.

I wonder if you have anything to lean into in terms of what we were just discussing. Yeah, I think Brian laid out very well how this is happening. the functions, the funding, how they're mobilizing. I would probably like to explain why. And I think it addresses the point you both were discussing.

Obviously this is communism, right? And the ultimate goal is to perpetuate and realize the communist revolution. But I think in more explicit terms, this is about the 2030 census. Okay. And this is about their overall plan to take over the country by flooding this country with illegal aliens. They knew that allowing in 10 million illegal aliens under Joe Biden was gonna cost them politically. But guess what? They see it as a one-way ratchet.

And as long as they can keep getting more and more illegal aliens, eventually they're either gonna get amnesty or they don't even need amnesty because it all comes down to apportionment. Now think about this. Every 10 years, they take the census and congressional seats and electoral college votes are apportioned based on where the populations are. And as

we saw in 2019, the Supreme Court ruled in a five four decision with Justice Roberts saying that illegal aliens could not be excluded from the census. Think about that. Okay. This quote unquote conservative Supreme Court said you have to count every human being in your jurisdiction. And guess what that leads to? Not only the 10 million that came under Biden, not only the probably 20 million that have come in over the previous two decades, that equates to about 30 to 40 congressional seats and electoral votes that are currently being held by Democrats that should otherwise be in the hands of Republicans. Okay. And in this next census,

2030, if the numbers stay as they are right now, California is expected to lose two to four congressional seats and electoral college votes. It's the same thing. New York is expected to lose two, Illinois is expected to lose one, Pennsylvania is expected to lose one, Oregon and Washington are expected to lose one, and almost all of those are going to safe red seats. The 2032 presidential race, the Republican candidate will not even need to win Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, or Michigan.

They can win the whole thing with just safe red states. Democrats know this, and after COVID, when everyone fled their states, they replaced them with illegals, right after the COVID lockdown. So that is what this is about. They realize, oh crap, Trump is actually deporting millions of people. Every 740,000 illegal aliens deported is a congressional seat that will flip back to republicans They know this and they're trying to gum up the machine as much as possible to stall and stop him so that they can acquire more power And I understand you had you had something specific concern around the the dreamers and daco recipients

I mean I personally well, I I think it's unconstitutional what they're doing. That was an executive order in 2012, DACA by Obama. He launched it about six months before the election as a sweetener to get the Hispanic vote, which in a great twist of irony, a lot of Hispanics actually really like Trump now, almost about 55, 45 nationwide, certainly a lot of Hispanics actually really like Trump now, almost about 55-45 nationwide,

certainly a lot more in Florida and Texas. And then when Trump tried to rescind it, the court said, no, you can't do that. So Obama can make an executive order, but Trump can't strip that executive order, which applies for almost everything. You should be able to do that. But we are under a judicial coup right now. Okay. There are more national injunctions from these leftist Marxist judges in Trump's first three months than there were almost in United States history combined for every president besides President Trump. National injunctions are an absolute abuse of judicial authority. There's currently a case, the CASA case in the Supreme Court that they should rule on

within the next month That will determine whether or not these courts can continue to issue these national injunctions Okay, which which are being weaponized right so between the courts and between these riots. That's how they're planning to stop Trump's mass deportation agenda the thing that won him the popular vote. Excuse me. This is all takes my breath away. The fact that he brought in Marines seems like a little bit of a, people think of it as a bit of a Rubicon,

but to me, I'm not sure I agree with that. The National Guard is one thing, and I want to hear your thoughts on that, but the actual bringing in troops, that logic was laid out by President Lincoln and President Andrew Jackson a long time ago, which has the government, the president, has a sacred obligation that he swears an oath to,

to protect government federal properties. When President Lincoln sent provisions to Fort Sumter, he did so, and the Southerners fired on him, but he did so because he had to. Given his legal mind and legal logic, he was obliged to reprovision the starving soldiers at Fort Sumter. Is it not the same logic that brings Marines to surround

the federal buildings here in Los Angeles? Yeah, there's a few points on that. One, the president is not allowed to mobilize the military to engage in domestic law enforcement activities unless under the Posse Comitatus Act and the Interaction Act, there is some type of rebellion or insurrection. Based on the footage that everyone can see on X, I would say that certainly was happening in the first two to three days of these riots. There was an absolute loss of control.

It was total anarchy. It was extremely violent. You saw 10 plus police cruisers on the 101 smashed to pieces. You saw cops getting hit with fireworks, rocks to the face, and LAPD was understaffed. And the president has an obligation to protect the American people when what I perceived to be Democrat leadership was allowing this to happen intentionally Because they wanted to send a shot across the bow You're not going to conduct these ice raids without pushback in our sanctuary cities in our in our blue state. So I

would actually like to remind people that when the Rodney King riots happened in to remind people that when the Rodney King riots happened in 1992, George Bush, who was president at the time, mobilized the Marines to come in. I think it was 900 or so. And these Marines, who are currently, I think, just getting to the actual inner city region of Los Angeles, they were training some crowd control techniques over the last few days, are not armed. They won't be armed when they're out there, is what we're hearing. You know, they're going to have riot shields. I think it's sending a statement.

And, you know, a lot of people criticized President Trump during the BLM riots in 2020, saying that he didn't do enough, he didn't take strong enough action. And a lot of these governors in these blue states did not call up the National Guard. That's typically step one, the governors call it and you know, Trump can reinforce it. So Trump is taking a stronger approach. And I think the country is a lot more ready for it. His poll numbers have only increased. He's at the highest approval rating in the nightly polls and rasmussen as since he was inaugurated, Americans by 60 to 80%, depending

on which poll you look at support mask deportations. And I would say even a majority of probably Los Angelenos want order restored in their city. They want to be able to drive on the highways. They want to be able to go out at night. You have a curfew right now in LA that is about as close to martial law as you can get. And that was pushed by the Democrat mayor. Okay.

That's how bad it is. Yeah. Um, so I, I, I support Trump also sending a shot across the bow that if you, we are going to conduct these ice raids. And if you are going to allow your people to respond violently, we're going to bring in the troops to restore order. And then before I go to the break, I just, Caleb, I want you to tell me what you mean by that banner

you put up for me to comment on. But before you do, Elon Musk gave one of the greatest descriptions. I almost thought it was AI. I wasn't even sure it was him. But it was such a great comment about Governor Newsom. He was going, well, Governor Newsom goes, because you know what?

Governor Newsom was like the Joker taking over Gotham City. It's like complete lawlessness. He's the Joker. He's the Joker sitting in the Governor's office allowing absolute pandemonium to unleash. And I thought, oh God, that's great. He, it's exactly what the Joker was. It's this, and I, that's great. He, it's exactly what the Joker was. It's this, it's this.

And I remember when that film came out, my kids were sort of like high school age or college. I was like, do you, do you understand what they're implying by this? I don't, I don't, you're glorifying that. Well, now we've got a governor that is just like the Joker in Batman. It really is rather incredible, but I love that frame.

Is he not that? Is exactly that. And I think LA is the gauntlet, it's the litmus test and how President Trump responds here is going to dictate how the next three and a half years will go with this mass deportation agenda. So obviously a lot of that funding is tied up in the big, beautiful bill to get more to get more ice agents and, and, and immigration judges

and all that. But, um, if Trump shows strength here, which he has thus far, if he continues to show strength, which we are hearing the troops are going to be there for 60 days and he continues the deportations, that's the key. He has to continue these ice deportations. It will break the will of these violent resistors, many of which are illegal aliens. The riots will be quelled and the deportation agenda can continue and the rule of law can be established. Mind you, they arrested a US president four times while he was running for reelection

and they want to talk about authoritarianism. Okay. This guy won the popular vote. He is enforcing the laws on the books, which have not been done in decades when it comes to immigration. So they can deal with it or they can go to federal prison. Caleb, what was the comment you wanted to make here? Yeah. I'm curious if you think that this is being allowed as a, you know, giant ploy to usher in Palantir. It seems like the timing is very strange. So it's Palantir is our Palantir, however people want to pronounce it is it's it's kind of like the the new big brother organization. It's like a corporation that they're trying to combine and consolidate everybody's records. Basically what a lot of people are

saying, including Naomi Wolf, I believe is warning about this about it. They prey on people's fears and times of unrest to then say the only way that you can get relief and stop this is if you let us track everything you do kind of

like what they did with the Patriot Act. They try to usher something in. They have a big bad event and they usher ways in that they can control us but then they never give that power back, as you can see with the Patriot Act right now. And I found the timing to be very interesting

that they announced, hey, Trump may be wanting to work with Palantir, and then all of a sudden all of this unrest starts happening. Do you see any connections there? Do you think that the timing is suspicious? I need more exclamation on Palantir too. Go ahead, Rogan, and then we'll go to Bregg. Yeah, I've seen people talking about Palantir

and I'm not as up to speed as others on that. I'm a firm believer in the constitutional right to privacy and the Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable search and seizure. I am highly opposed to the Patriot Act at this point. I would not advocate for any new type of surveillance or government authorities because as we saw with the Patriot Act, they weaponize that to not only spy on US citizens, they spied on the United States President Trump, right? They got the secret FISA warrant in 2016 under James Comey and Brennan and

Obama and Biden, and they wiretapped the sitting US president. So I am absolutely against any further encroachment of our civil liberties, even in the face of trying to surveil this kind of leftist uprising. I think we have more than enough uh weapons already in our disposal to to address what's going on and i hope that the doj arrests these financiers the orchestrators the puppeteers uh and sends a message that it's not going to be like it was in 2020 we're taking we're taking everyone down so um yeah i i am firmly against any type of mass surveillance program that would be justified by these riots. We are going to take a quick break.

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He is, you can follow him on X, DC underscore Dreino, also known as Rogan O. Handley. He is an attorney and he's been a wonderful source of information on what is a confusing situation. But my first question really is sort of a, I don't know, it's just sort of a rhetorical question in a way. But Marxism was sort of dead and gone. I mean, it had been shown as a flawed philosophy given,

it just doesn't apply, it doesn't work. It doesn't work and it certainly doesn't apply to modern economies. My understanding is that a bunch of crestfallen Marxist tried to figure out a way to reignite interest in Marxism and created the whole theory, critical theory movement, which is that everything is subjective and nothing is real and they found a way back into the,

certainly the academic discourse. But how could Marxism, or why is it so popular in the face of a clear historical record of one failure after another? Yeah, it's weaponized empathy at this point, right? They kind of realized the economic Marxist argument doesn't really play that well in America because things are pretty prosperous in this country. The American dream is alive and well, again, under President Trump,

and people generally have roofs over their heads and food on the plate. So they had to come up with a new tactic, and it's this cultural Marxist, this critical race theory dividing us along immutable characteristics, not economic class. And that's been going on for a few decades. It kind of peaked a little bit in the 70s and 80s, went back into remission and it's back in its heyday, but I would say it's already peaked and we're already on the down slope. DEI is crumbling, men and women's sports is being pushed back on even Simone Biles posted a tweet saying she doesn't necessarily agree with it. So we are kind of cleaning up the mess. It got out of control and it took, you know, Obama

was kind of the launch pad for the next wave of critical race theory. He divided this country racially. Race relations have never been worse. They were actually getting a lot better before him. It's an entire kind of cottage industry, but as much as Marxism has been proven time and time again that it just leads to disastrous and violent results. What hasn't gone into remission is the human nature to amass power. Tyrants still exist, and this is a very proven method to gain power, to gain totalitarianism. And a lot of the people running this are not actually the people

Truly running it right we see you know the Nancy Pelosi's the Obamas the Bernie Sanders It's it's the big money people that funded them and and those guys Didn't get to become you know billionaires multiple times over by being you know Unambitious and I think once you once you're kind of at that level, if you're like a Bill Gates, you say, wow, what can I do now? Oh, let me go vaccinate people all across the world with drugs that don't really work that well. So this is just kind of a hobby for power hungry people.

Do they feel guilty for all the power they've amassed that they feel like they've done it at the expense of other people? Is it the hubris? I just don't understand it. That's one side of my question. The other side is, why isn't the legal system going after the people that are the actual responsible party

for some of the damage being done? Well, unfortunately, the legal system is filled with a lot of Marxists themselves. The 2020 election, I keep my opinions, I don't know what networks this is airing on, but they use that moment to install hundreds of federal judges who are far left that come from law schools

that have been pushing this stuff for decades now, and then they're starting to bear fruit. We're seeing it. They're Marxists in black robes. And, you know, this is the Obama movement. You know, Obama stayed in DC after he left office. He said, I always wanted to be someone just behind the scenes with the earpiece Pulling the strings and we basically got Obama's third term And so, you know, do they feel bad? No, I think a lot of the these people and envy is a is a human emotion It's a dark one You know communism I've kind of thought about this it goes against almost all of the ten commandments

You know, it's fundamentally evil. I would say it's derived from Satanism, but thou shall not covet, you know, thy neighbor in their goods. Thou shall only have, you know, one God. Communists don't believe in God. They believe in the government controlling you. you know, husband and wife, they don't they want to destroy the family unit. You know, so it's it's it's it's I think it's just satanic. I think a lot of this is just satanic. And they want to destroy everything that God made beautiful in our world, the family unit, doing good, being charitable,

being generous, they just want to get rid of all that is what I think it boils down to at its root. Well, I worry about the impulse as you do. I've noticed, and I was talking to Alex Villanueva, the former sheriff of Los Angeles yesterday, and he confirmed something that I was highly suspicious of, that there are a group of anarchists,

primarily males, who are running around. They're probably, I don't know if they're directly associated with Antifa, or they are Antifa or they're adjacent to Antifa. But when I go out and I work with homeless, I always within those drug addicts, they're seriously mentally ill.

And then there are these sociopaths, they're all the same guy. And they are, it's diagnostic for sociopathy in the sense that they are garbed in the same manner in every single case. They have a backpack, they're a 35 year old male with a backpack and a skateboard. That is a sociopath and that is a violent anarchist. And they usually have weird sort of slogans

around their tents. These are the guys we want to be following. I don't understand why, and they're very violent. They're very aggressive. Do people not understand that that's what we're getting into here? That's who these people are? That this is not just a benign group?

These are people with really darkness in their hearts. a benign group. These are people with really darkness in their hearts. Well, it's been a very good return on investment for George Soros to fund and get elected a lot of these what we call Soros DAs, these kind of woke prosecutors who do not go after these low level crimes. And they're constantly giving these hat tips and these nods to these leftist anarchists, these leftist Marxists that if you go around and you're robbing stores and you're attacking Trump supporters and you're burning down big corporations and building, we're not going to go after you. Or if we do, we're going to give you just a gentle slap on the wrist. And not only that, we're going to give you free housing, free food, where they're the

foot soldiers. These are effectively the brown shirts of the modern Marxist movement here in America. And Antifa is the organized paramilitary version. And what they're used for is to break up any pro-Trump, pro-America street rallies. And you see that in Portland and California all along the coast. So those are the hotbeds. That's what they want for America. What is happening to LA is what Kamala was going to do to all of America.

And it is what Gavin Newsom will do to all of America if he is elected president in 2028 and make no mistake, that is the plan. And so this, in my opinion, is do or die for this country. If Trump does not deport 10 million illegal aliens, at least by the end of his term, America could be finished because if Democrats are allowed to get into power, what do you think they're going to do first thing? Boom, that board is opening up right again. And then you're gonna have another 10, maybe more,

maybe 20 million illegal aliens come in this time. And then we're done, we're cooked as a country. So this is existential. And if Trump is able to do these mass deportations, we'll save America for at least another few decades. If he isn't, then we're done. I hate to say it. It's only a matter of time after that until we implode into just absolute chaos

across the country. What do you imagine is going on in Gavin Newsom's mind? What is he thinking? He's not making sense anymore. It's hard to even track when he talks. How would he justify this? What would he say? What is his, does he not have thoughts

about what he's really doing? I'm so confused. He works as part of the team, right? He's very connected with the Democrat elites. He's one of them. His goal is to stand defiantly against these mass deportations, against the Trump agenda, and do so in a way that still maintains some legitimacy as a governor, some legitimacy that you don't actually support violent riots and protests. So it's a very fine line he's trying to

walk between hey violence is bad but also this is Trump's fault he's enforcing the law in California and you know he's to blame for all this but one thing I've really noticed about Gavin Newsom and all this he is so lime me he is a slimy liar every day I I've always known that but the slime level is so much worse now because He's actually under a microscope. He lies about Trump calling him. They talked for 15 minutes Trump posted screenshot Yeah, I mean and he's like Trump never called me and then he's Saying that what Trump is doing with the National Guard is unconstitutional. It's in the Constitution.

It's in multiple different federal laws. He's so slimy that I'm like, wow, this guy is just really repulsive with what he's been doing. Well, that's what I, that's why I sit there and go, what, what does he imagine he's doing? I mean, he goes to bed at night. What is he thinking? I, I, there's so many things that are confusing me. I'm confused, Jimmy Kimmel's monologue last night

was confusing to me. You know, when he was, you know, talking about a trunk with deranged and ill, and this is a horrible thing. And I thought that that logic suggests that whenever there is any unlawful activity, you don't bring in law enforcement because law enforcement makes unlawful activity, you don't bring in law enforcement because law enforcement makes unlawful activity worse.

Which of course, I mean, yes, where there's unlawful activity, magically law enforcement tends to be there, but they're not causing the unlawful activity. And I worked in a psychiatric hospital for decades. And I'm gonna tell you when really aggressive, there's a meme popping up into our screen. When really aggressive behavior develops,

show of force deescalates. Show of force, massive shows of force. We take 30 of our staff and surround the violent patient and they settle down and they feel much better. And we take care of them then. But this idea that you just let it run amok is anathema, forget to just civilization, it's anathema to everything that's real

about the human experience. So the human experience is just somehow no longer at issue. We just, I guess that's part of communism. It has to deny human instincts entirely. They're taking their best shot. They've lost all forms of federal government power. They don't have the Senate, the House, the White House, most of the Supreme Court. You know, the Supreme Court, most of the time they don't have them. Amy Coney Barrett has been an absolute disappointment. But they have no forms of institutional power in the federal

government and they're resorting to violence. Violence is a weapon of the week. It's people with power don't have to resort to violence. They can just make things happen. And so this is them lashing out. This is the final battle. I'm telling you. President Trump has gone through the gauntlet for, you know, nine years of dealing with this. They indicted him and arrested him four times. He got shot in the head and he turned his, I mean, we are on a very blessed path. This is, in my opinion, a biblical moment. I mean, it really is. I don't know why they stopped writing the Bible because we are living through a very biblical time this is the most powerful evil force of

That has ever tried to take over the planet. It's not just in America. It's a lot worse in Europe What's going on with the open borders and the the EU tyranny and you know, I mean they're trying to push World War three So I know it's a lot, but I want to give people some hope We're winning. What do you predict? I predict that we win. I really do. And that's why I left my career as an entertainment lawyer in 2016. I said, I got to go fight back.

I, you know, the only method we had was social media to get our voices out there. Now you can't, you know, walk 10 feet down the road without a MAGA influencer appearing. They're everywhere. I wanted other people to join that fight. With free speech on X, with a lot better free speech on Instagram and Facebook, with a lot cleaner elections in a lot of swing states, and I think even more so to come once the DOJ starts Cracking down on some of these election fraud schemes in deep blue states With with the ability to circulate the truth these videos about the riots, right?

Like we could barely post the truth about BLM in 2020. We certainly couldn't go into the streets because of the COVID lockdowns, but about BLM in 2020. We certainly couldn't go into the streets because of the COVID lockdowns, but social media was highly censored. So conservatives were seeing, but regular people weren't. It's a much different battlefield now. Not only are people really upset over what happened the last four years, but there's a lot more truth being circulated and has much wider reach on social media. So you're seeing Trump's poll numbers. They're stellar. They're stellar Okay Democrats. This was a Failed effort it worked for them in 2020 It works frankly, you know Trump was not in power after that and for you know reasons again

I won't discuss on I don't know where this is airing Was it wasn't a very good election in terms of? ethics and legality, but They're trying they're going back to the old playbook and I think it's failing it really is and if it fails in California It's a cakewalk everywhere else. All you have is a Portland and Oregon. You got Seattle. You got Chicago New York City is actually pretty good good mayor Adams is kissing Trump's butt because he's you know Trying to get out of that federal investigation that Biden launched Adam DC is under control of House rule So if we can defeat them in LA and we already are and we will and continue these mass deportations We will steamroll Democrats in 26 and 2030.

What we are learning is that when you show strength in doing what people voted you empowered to do, it grows your base. That's why Florida went from a one point red state to a 20 point red state under Governor DeSantis. When you show strength, people will mobilize everyone they know to go out and vote for you. And I think that's what's going to happen in 2026. So you were in the entertainment business and the sort of ideas I mentioned, Jimmy and the other things that are flying around the entertainment business are so disconnected from reality. There's a hubris and a grandiosity.

And every time they speak publicly as though because you're an actor, I should give a shit about your opinion, but you're entitled to your opinion. But you, I mean, what I've noticed for instance lately is that I offer like a medical opinion or opinion about mental health stuff and I get censored and screamed down and stuff like that. I'm entitled to my opinion.

And my opinions are based in something a little more than just random ideas of my own. But in the entertainment side, it's all just sort of, you know, typically uneducated and just sort of, I know best and it's a group think. What's happening over there? I mean, you had to deal with all those folks. What is your sort of assessment of what's going on?

Well, I learned very quickly after Trump won that spousing opinion, anything to the right of communism made you a fascist and you would get blackballed. So I had to stay quiet until I ultimately left and moved to Florida and pursued DC Drano full time. And, um, but, uh, you know, a lot of these actors, I mean, you live in California, a lot of people watching this live in California, their, uh, their, their leftists, not, not only because that's just what they believe, but also because that's what the people that

largely run Hollywood believe it's, it's, it's, uh, It's a leftist movement. They're very connected to the Democrats. I would sort of describe myself. I thought I was well left of center and I'm sympathetic to those ideas. This is something, this is like a perception of reality that is off. It's like their reality testing is impaired in some way.

Maybe it's because they live in a zero gravity world where people make lots of money for doing essentially nothing. They never had real jobs, many of them. That's what I've noticed that they just, I can tell when they're really obnoxious that, oh, you haven't had a job. You never worked in the world.

You never had somebody to tell you to shut the F up. But is it that? And fueled by some of these ideas that I'm sympathetic to, but that they have no experience in reality with which to measure them? To be honest, it's tough for me to get in their minds. I just see common sense everywhere I look, and right and wrong, and up and down, and left and right.

And a lot of these people's opinions, I think, are skewed by legacy media, right? If you're watching the news, you know, the people that watch the news the most and go on the internet for news the least are older folks and you know 70 plus and those are Trump's worst numbers right which which is kind of unusual because Republicans usually do well with senior citizens and and older voters but I think the real split now is the more you're on the internet the more you can get the truth and I think there there is a slow awakening. I know a good amount of Hollywood celebrities that people know, popular names who follow me or have communicated with,

who are just like, hey, I just got to keep it quiet. They don't want to upset the powers that be. And I know for a fact, a lot of the people that work in Hollywood behind the camera generally lean conservative because those are people who are actually working real jobs, right? It's a very tough job at some points, long days. But it's these actors, but you know what it is to tell you, and I'm sure Brian has a lot more information on this, is it's the people funding them.

As an influencer on social media, I'm offered money for all different types of things and it's advertising products or advocating for specific viewpoints or as we saw with Kamala paying for endorsements, right Beyonce You know Megan the stallion a bunch of these famous singers and actresses got paid to support Hollywood people So if they're these people are literally paid to read off a page and say it right? That's what an is. You read what someone else wrote and you pretend to be someone else and they do it for money. Why not do that with politics, right? And this was the old way that you worked for many years, for many decades. The Marxist movement infiltrated Hollywood and it it's tried before Reagan was a big

defender against the communist movement in Hollywood and it's you know, certainly had a resurgence after him, but When he was in charge of SAG, but uh, yeah I mean they they get paid to say these talking points and the laws do not require them to disclose that they're being paid It's one of the few exceptions in the FEC because it's considered free speech. Interesting. Well, it is- Wait, you understand that. Understand what? That the Hollywood is very left

because you have to be in order to get a job. No, I understand that. That's the way it is now, but what is it- Especially during the pandemic. It's like you weren't allowed to say anything against it. They're true believers, a lot of them, and I'm wondering what the thinking is. It's odd and why we should care.

I mean, look, there's this thing that happened at the turn of the 20th century. This new technology came in, we call celluloid in film, and people started performing in front of the film as opposed to on the stage, but it was always still stage actors were still the top of the heap, these carefully trained professionals.

And now it's just a bunch of people in front of cameras, like you and me, and some of them kind of know how to act, some of them don't, and then it's on television, it's on platform, it's all over the place. And we're still listening to these people? You don't need an agent or a manager anymore. Yeah, what are we doing? Let them get on these kinds of programs and defend themselves and share their thoughts and we're still listening to these people? You don't need an agent or a manager anymore. You don't have to. Yeah, what are we doing?

Then let them get on these kinds of programs and defend themselves and share their thoughts. Let's see what's going on. I mean, to be fair, some of them do and that's fine, but they aren't challenged very often. And that's, it's like, it's, I don't know. It's odd that we would listen to them, it seems to me. It's just very, very odd.

So, well. I think their influence has gone down drastically in the last five to 10 years. Yeah. Yeah. So did you ever imagine back before 2016 that we'd be sitting here? To me, it's shocking that we're here we are.

And COVID sort of put rocket fuel in all of this for me. So many, so many astonishing revelations, but it sort of revealed some truths that I was ignorant to. And it required, it continues to compel me to just kind of talk and to try to defend other people's right to talk. But isn't this a shock that here we are, sitting here doing this in 2025?

It's shocking. We are the resistance movement. I mean, you know, I talk to people about this. I say, you know, the founding fathers of this country, we revere them, they're heroes. They were regular people going through their lives. They weren't born with a pamphlet of what their life was going to be. They didn't know this great moment would happen in their role.

They would step up. But almost all of them did what people like you and me and tens of thousands of others are doing. They're leaving their normal careers, their comforts, the approval of polite society. And they're going to raise their voices and stand up for what they believe in. And I frankly don't think we're going to get into a revolutionary war. I think we caught this early enough. But you know, the American people are slow to move, but once they do rise, they are an unstoppable force, an unstoppable force. And I do think we've hit critical mass that

they can't put this genie back in the bottle. But none of us wanted to do this. I just want to go be on a farm and, you know, hang out with my family and, you know, watch the horses walk around. But we have to fight. And it's because people didn't fight for so long that we're left with this mess. But again, I think we have crossed the Rubicon. I think we have tilted it over towards the downhill where now we have the momentum. We have full control of the American government and free speech on social media. And this movement is growing every single day.

It's interesting that when my wife, Susan, and Caleb first started running a camera in here, it was 2020, and it was really in response to COVID. And I was just trying to help people understand, see through the craziness of what the media was representing. And I kept saying then, I said, we're like the French underground here.

This is the French underground. We dare to say things that are dangerous that people are going to come after. And I kept saying that over and over again. I feel like the French underground, it's very odd. And that morphed into, oh my God, I have to defend the First Amendment. This is a shock.

I must speak up and I must defend other people's right to that speech. And here we are still. So I agree with what you're saying wholeheartedly. And I appreciate you being here. Where would you like people to find you? Yeah, DC Dreno on all the platforms, and mostly on Instagram and X, so, and intrude social.

So, join the fight. If you're looking for a sign to start posting on an account You know, we all started with zero followers at some point I just one night said I'm gonna start a meme account and You know now I've had dinner with President Trump I mean it's just just because I decided to start talking about this publicly So I hope everyone watching does their part and join the fight. Stay in touch, talk to you soon.

Thank you, Dr. Drew. You got it. So we want to bring Brian back. Yes, I heard Brian, before you bring Brian back, Taylor quietly slipped something in there in the lower third where the HHS, I think it was the Vaccine Safety Committee. The Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices. Probably about 30, 40 minutes ago, Secretary Kennedy announced, he had already, he kicked

out the 17 current members, I believe a day or two ago, and today he announced, I believe it was eight new ones, and that includes Dr. Martin Koldorf and Dr. Robert Malone. I believe both of them have been on the show Yep, that's right. And it's interesting. Yeah, that's it. Here's let's see who else I Hope they're good scientists in there. I really do. He really has an obligation to do that. I can't see it now Epic health won't let me see it. Because Emily sent me an email saying, whoa, these names, Michael A. Ross, Vicki Hebsworth, James Peno, Cody Messner, I don't know. Oh, I don't know some of these people.

But again, this is not an easy job. This is reading science formally and carefully. I'm hoping Vinay Prasad is in there with this, or at least has some sort of oversight. So that'll be interesting to see how this all plays out. It definitely needed a new blood in there. Okay, well that's interesting. It's in the-

Brian O'Shea needs to come. Yes, Kelly Victor was quipping to me. It looks like Malone's going to be an ACIP member, and we all laughed at her That's about two hours ago Something to say about that by the way. You have some some follow-up comment for us. I appreciate you coming back in On wait your audio so here is Yep, right. Okay. Can you hear me now? We got you do, I'm not going to say a thing about Robert Malone, I promised.

Why? You're loud. No, no, no, I'll save that for my own show. Didn't you hear me giggle when they said that? When I, when I, that just, it's, it's, it's ironic, right, Drew? I have stayed out of it. Didn't he help create that, Renee? He have stayed out of all. He claimed that, he claimed that he did.

He lays claim to that, I guess, to be a more formal way of saying it. I know Robert Malone, I've met Robert Malone. Nice guy, but I'm staying out of the controversy. But didn't he also say later, we had him on the show. Susan, I'm staying out of the controversy. He said it wasn't a great thing. When I say out of the controversy, I mean out of the controversy.

Okay. I thought he fell on his sword a little bit. So go ahead and if you want to hear more, go to Brian O'Shea's investigate everything. So go ahead. Which he's doing tonight at 9 p.m. Eastern, correct? Eight or nine p.m. I kind of flexible.

I have Marshall's training to attend at the ACLU online at 8, so I might have to bump it to 9. Nice. Nice. I'd love to hear more. You've got to report on that all over the place. Push that out.

I'll retweet it. So what's going on? Well, where where do you want to know I've got so much Yeah, you had some follow-up to what we were talking about DC Drano, please just start there Oh, yeah Well night I agree with DC Drano that we're definitely winning but I think this is just another battle in a war that will go on forever because the communists will never stop will go on forever because the communists will never stop forever. I think wars go on forever. Battles are won and lost, but the they're not stopping.

And the thing is like the belt and road by the Chinese communist party, their toxic financing plan that continues to spread of the 195 countries, I think in the world, 150 of them belong to the Belt and Road. It's called encirclement in the game of Go. I get China and I get their totalitarian impulses and how the CCP works and the People's Liberation Army and all. What I don't get is why is there always

a totalitarian impulse in the human systems? It seems like freedom is such a much more natural, healthy impulse for human beings. Where does this, I'm so shocked to see it come back so fiercely after the experiences with it in the 20th century. I think if in the case of Xi Jinping, if you think about his life, he was actually deemed as and labeled as

what they call black class back in the Mao era and beyond. Black class is bad. They couldn't do race because they were all the same race. So they established social classes. Black class is red. Black class is good. Red class is bad. So he was actually labeled because his father was high up in the party and he had to go to the work camps and everything. So where does the impulse come from? I think it's the same impulse that drives people to in you know lower income areas to join violent gangs or to join terrorist groups in certain countries. There's two ways

to freedom for them at the very very top or dead. So it is all a freedom impulse it just gets distorted in this authoritarian fashion. That's interesting. So it's freedom by, it's gross though. It's freedom by controlling other people. Okay, so- That's what I see. Yeah, it makes sense.

Freedom by controlling other people, that gives me my freedom as opposed to giving, granting freedom to others. Wow. So talk about June 14th. Yeah, June 14th. What's going to happen there? What is that?

Well, what's going to happen is I, if you go to, I think it's no kings dot org. I had it up there a second ago, sorry. But basically, yeah, no kings dot org. And by the way, the no way, isn't those kings using, oh, what's that famous artist name? Who does the, I've got the hat with the crown on it, Susan. I love him so much.

The kid that makes the crowns, that was a protege of Andy Warhol. Anyway, it looks to me like they're using his art without his family or his consent. It's odd to me. Isn't it mobilize.us or something? Yeah, so the way it's, you know, the labels change, but the game stays the same. So before it used to be Action Network.

Now it's mobilize.us. So that is the CRM, that's the app. And Zero Hedge, I believe, covered it to where they were speculating that Indivisible, based on the comments of Miss Walton, helped form the No Kings movement. But if you go to nokings.org, and I think this is breaking,

I think I just found this out. They have accessible restrooms. Go ahead. Sorry. Keep going, please. But if you scroll to the bottom of nokings.org on their, any of their pages, but I think on the trainings page, you'll see, no, I'm sorry, on their mobilize page for noKings, you'll see that mobilize comes right out and and they say they have the statement that says, indivisible is managing data and communications with participants and this is on the no kings mobilize site. So

that's confirmed now. They are definitely affiliated and again indivisible they were behind all the Tesla takedown activities. So this is the exact same pattern that we saw with groups such as Ruth Sentus and everything. And it's the same thing every time. And it's the same actors. It's the environmentalists. It's people that have nothing to do with so-called immigration.

So this is just one big network. I think DC Drano said it great. It's kind of like the brown shirts. These people are just activated by whoever's behind it. And I don't know who that is yet. I'm more focused on the logistics so we can disrupt those. But they just get activated for almost anything. And there's more coming. They tell you, they have a calendar. And so I would recommend that everyone go to two places. Keep your eye on mobilize, okay, because they announce all of these things.

And then go to Blue Sky. X is great, Getter's great, these are great places, get our voices out. But have you noticed that there are very few left-wing voices, there's none on Getter, but there's very few on X anymore. But if you go to Blue Sky, they're in there talking as if they're in a skiff

and they're saying it all. As a matter of fact, there's a group called 5051. These seem to be the people based on Blue Sky postings that are alerting the communities to the ice raids pay attention cash Patel Because they're putting it out on blue sky like hey residents of this town in Ohio Ice raids imminent in the next hour. They're putting it out there. So that's what I'd recommend to people to stay in front of these things to prevent people to stay in front of these things. Interesting, I'm re-downloading the Blue Sky app. I found it so boring, but now it sounds kind of interesting.

Harvey Weinstein was just convicted. I saw it on there. I just saw that on there. You saw what now? Harvey Weinstein was just convicted. Anyways. Harvey Weinstein was convicted of what? Of sexual assault.

It seems like we've learned that. You were just convicted. Anyways, but it's, to me it seems like this should be illegal, you know, if it's causing this kind of trauma or turmoil. And I just don't see how. That's a tough one. Well, it's back to what I was asking him. Why aren't we, why aren't people going after the people

that are funding all this stuff that's causing so much damage? I don't understand that. But I don't know. I think that's what we need to do. I will say Josh Hawley did send a, he sent a letter to, I believe it was the, oh, the big one out in California about, you know, requesting they preserve their records as far back as November 2024. I'm sorry, let me just see who it was. And that they make all these things available to the Senate. So that's a good move. I'm glad to see it. But I think what just the normal, I always try to give like what people can do.

Um, yeah. And, uh, you know, DC Draino is right. You, you have to get out there. You have to do things, even if it's just putting stuff out on X. What I like to do is, especially when I'm in Salem, Massachusetts, is go take a walk and talk to people. I recommend bringing a cute dog with you because people are more likely to talk to you. We have Loki. And so I was talking to a nice lady today and it turned into politics and I kept

keep your cool, don't get aggravated because you won't get any intel. And so she actually said to me, this is a highly educated woman in the healthcare industry, she actually said to me, and this is a highly educated woman in the healthcare industry, she actually said to me, well I think that the legacy media, not legacy, like NBC and all them, I think they mean well but sometimes they just get it wrong. And I said well, NBC has had a memorandum of cooperation with Xinhua Newsnet since 2015, so I don't know if that's true. Then she's like, yeah but I think Fox News lies. I said well here's another thing. Most conservatives don't watch Fox News. We don't trust it since Tucker left. So getting out there and talking to them and getting

in their heads, it really lets you figure out how they're thinking. So when, you know, patriots and they mean well are calling random strangers on X, Marxists and traitors and all that. They're probably confused. They're probably saying what the hell they talking about. And then when you guys were talking about Hollywood, I have a, you know, I played an extra in a couple of the Mailer productions, our good friend, John Buffalo Mailer, the youngest son of Norman Mailer, the writer.

So I'm in that world, uh, a third of the time. And I agree. They, they, they're in that reality, but I will say this, all they see is legacy media. They've never heard of sub stack. They've never heard of rumble. So what I tell people is don't try to convince them. You're right. Shoot a cool video of, I don't know, shooting at a bear with a 12 gauge, put it on Rumble and send them the link, and then they'll discover Rumble. Interesting.

There you go. I'm looking at Blue Sky now. It's... So I do have a... We do have an official Dr. Drake Blue Sky. We just never use it. Yeah, it's interesting. I agree with Brian.

It's worth, you gotta get your, everyone's gotta get to balance. That's the goal, balance in all our thinking and in our new sources. I agree with him. I agree with that. I do wanna ask Brian.

Sufa, is there anything else you? Well, I wanted to ask Brian because he wasn't here, he wasn't on the show whenever we were talking about the Palantir stuff. I'm curious if you have any thoughts about that and about how this seems oddly timed to have a lot of chaos similar to what happened with 9-11 and the usher in the Patriot Act.

That's my fear is that this is all interestingly timed. I think we need to get a little more, Palantir is just a company, what are we talking about? I've been following Palantir's stuff for a pretty long time and they've just kind of exploded recently into the public eye because of the announcements with Trump saying, oh yeah, he might want to work with them. But it is really kind of like a corporate version

of Big Brother, it's like a corporate NSA in a way and they just, they want to go in and compile all of our records. I think the ultimate plan is a national ID because they're going to say well how are we going to keep you know violent criminals coming through any of our borders? We need a national ID. Well you already have a national ID, you

have driver's license so why not just take this one little extra step and let us you know count everybody. That's the only way to secure elections guys is if we have a national ID. And I'm afraid that's what this is all going to. And I'm kind of more afraid that it's not bad enough yet. They need to make things worse and have more chaos so that people are just begging for national ID.

And so they're begging for all the records. Caleb, I tend to agree with you. I don't think it's planned. I was in the government for a long time as a contractor, but for three decades almost. And I can say the US government has trouble organizing a lot across agencies. But I will say they never miss a good opportunity to test something out or to use something to push an agenda. And you are correct in a way, I don't know if it's associated with Palantir

and honestly, I don't know much about Palantir and know who they are, the controversies around them. But I will say I was a little shocked when Christine Ohm was all of a sudden talking about everyone needs to get a real ID by a certain day. And I'm like, why? And so I could see these riots being used as- You can't fly without it.

Yeah. You can't fly without it. You. You can't fly without it. You can't move around. It's already done. I mean, most people have them. I have one. I mean, that's- I bet you money.

I know you don't have one. I can imagine in the next year- Can't you just use your passport? Yeah, you should be able to. And the thing is, you know, and I think there should be a constitutional challenge here, but the other thing that I fear is, you know, and I think there's should be a constitutional challenge there. But the other thing that I fear is that we will, there's going to be a government contract with CLEAR. I guarantee it about international travel in this country.

And I should let people know that CLEAR, which is that fast pass that you use for international travel, takes all your biometrics. Their chief of staff during COVID was also Mayor Cuomo's scheduler. And they also are the people behind the, it's not the Gotham pass, but it was whatever COVID pass that New York had. And that was being run by CLEAR, while Cuomo's scheduler was the chief of staff over there at CLEAR.

So I would keep an eye on that if I were people. And definitely, I mean, lawyers get out there and challenge all of these things. And listen, even without Clear, your biometrics, if you go in and out of the country, they use your biometrics when you come in and out. That's what they're using to bring you in and out. So Clear is just a little piece of that.

All right, well. I love clear. Karen Burns, yes, passport and a regular license. I was just thinking that while we were talking, but I already have my, I'm all signed up for whatever. Listen, the only reason I would be much more aggressive about saying, what's the big deal? You know, be clear, but the, what do you call it?

The safe, whatever. But I learned my lesson with the Patriot Act. Cause with the Patriot Act, I was like, oh, come on, I got nothing to hide, who cares? They need our help, let's get in there, be a good patriot. I was wrong. And so that very much changed how I think about these things. So I would say this, Dr. Drew, you're spot on because as a former private investigator

and an Intel collector, I had competitive intelligence, especially where I was going after other company secrets for my clients. So many people would say, oh, you do that? Well, I have nothing to hide. Well, you have no idea what I'm looking for. And you might not have anything to hide, but by making it open to me, you might be helping me accomplish my mission.

Interesting. And I know through having been in many, many malpractice situations, you can always find something that somebody can make an issue of, whatever, always something, there's always something. So there is that as well.

But I trusted my government, COVID blew all that up. I had really significant trust in, I wouldn't say centralized authority. Maybe that's why I'd be thinking about in terms of being apathetic towards those people that still like centralized authority. I certainly didn't object to it until it went wacko, in my opinion, and now I object to it in strongest terms.

All right, Brian, thank you again. We really appreciate you and all you're doing and your thoughts and the willingness to come in here and share them, we appreciate it. So what cities are the big June 14th things coming to? Is it all on that website that you just, is it like, if if you follow that you can find out where everybody's congregating? Yeah, if you scroll to the bottom of nokings.org and you know, hat tip to Zero Hedge, I covered this as well. But there's so many locations that at one view on the map you can barely see the land.

And they're as far as Alaska. I saw that. Yeah, it's huge. I saw that. All right, thank you so much. And I'm embarrassed to say, I of course now remember the name of the artist that makes the crowns, his name is Basquiat.

And I'm a huge, huge fan. Thanks, Brian. And Caleb, let's get the next guest list up here for the upcoming shows. We have, what do we got here? There we go, Salted Cracker tomorrow, Mark Cianchisi next week will be in New York. We need music when you do this part.

Sam Cooper, you're the producer. Veeback coming back to talk about her. And this, that professor, this is on 26th, Sam Vaknin. I hope, again, I'll get the pronunciation when I finally talk to him. He is, he was sort of, got me thinking along the lines 26th Sam Vaknin. I hope I again I'll get the pronunciation when I finally talked to him he is He was sort of got me thinking along the lines of what I was just talking to DC Drano about was this shift towards externalizing affect and then seeing aggression elsewhere when it's your own aggression and then needing to discharge emotion a theatrical fashion

That is called the borderline process and that that is something that is really taking hold. And I want to get his thoughts on what that is and what we can do about it. All right, Caleb, anything else on your radar? Nope, I said my warnings about Palantir. I was raised in this by my, you know, all my story about my parents living off the grid. They were conspiracy theorists before that was a word.

Well, I mean, do what you gotta do. I mean, I'm almost thinking it's gonna happen no matter what we want. I think they're gonna push it on us no matter what. I think we should still resist it, but I have a feeling that's where they're going. So they've been pushing for this for 20 something years. This is what they want, is they want everyone to be tagged,

not physically tagged, but they want everyone to have an ID and a number number and they're gonna find ways until we get there I think I honestly think that they they might believe I mean is the only way to keep us safe I think we have a new style of warfare that's running I think that drones are going to be you know autonomous drones are really going to significantly affect Commercial air flight for a short time until we have mitigations. And I think they're going to keep ramping things up until people finally break and say,

please, please give us the national ID. Please give us a social credit score system. Everybody have a great weekend. So, so, so. So, so. You know what? So I'm hitting the, I'm going to be hitting the air. I'm going to be in the air thinking about this.

I think we got Alex Michelson for tomorrow too. There is a show tomorrow. I'm sorry, be in the air thinking about this. I think we got Alex Michelson for tomorrow too. There is a show tomorrow. I'm sorry, I beg your pardon. Yes, Alex is my former partner on Fox 11 here in Los Angeles. So he's been mentioning how weird it is that all these protective masks were handed out to all the rioters. And he was like, who's paying for this? So he's saying these, the fact that there evidence of NGO action here and that's coordinated and we'll have to.

I also saw him do an interview where he's calling out now, Gavin Newsom. I mean, he didn't used to do that. Show him those websites, the no Kings dot org and stuff. See what he says about that. Well, show him. Okay. Well, but it's interesting because, you know,

when you watch local news and you have news broadcasters, they basically just show the video and they talk, right? But, but Alex has been asking hard questions and he's been tweeting about it. And he's, he's like, I don't get it. Like, how could this be? And I like to see him pushing back because he wasn't pushing back against Gavin Newsom

and now he is a little bit. So it's kind of interesting to see the evolution of his thoughts. But love him. He's a local LA broadcaster, but he also, he's seeing all the footage. He's seeing what's going on in LA. He's very good. He's very smart. He's very sharp.

I mean, we're living it down here. It's kind of scary. But Susan, he's going to have to come at the, before our two o'clock, I have to get to the airport. So he's going to have to come out like, we have to start early tomorrow or something. Because- You'll be okay. We'll fit him in.

So anyways, I just wanted to mention it. So we are going to start at two o'clock tomorrow, Pacific time. We will see you then. Ta-ta. Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Caleb Nation and Susan Pinsky. As a reminder, the discussions here are not a substitute for medical care, diagnosis, or treatment. This show is intended for educational and informational purposes only.

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