Ask Dr. Drew - Rob Schneider: “Hold These Sociopath Liars Accountable” For Bungling COVID Response & Pandemic Panic – Ask Dr. Drew - Ep. 274

Episode Date: October 14, 2023

Rob Schneider refuses to be silenced, despite constant attacks against his statements on the COVID-19 pandemic, mRNA vaccine side effects, and online censorship efforts by government agencies. In March of 2020, Rob Schneider called in on “Dose of Dr. Drew” to discuss an emerging coronavirus that would soon become a major pandemic around the world. Though this episode was quickly suppressed by most major platforms and deleted from YouTube, it is now re-uploaded to Rumble as a reminder of the earliest days of COVID-19. Days after the episode aired, Dr. Drew and Rob Schneider were branded as disseminators of misinformation by the New York Times. Now 3-and-a-half years later, Schneider returns to review the outcome of the media’s pandemic panic and who was actually disseminating misinformation all along. “It is my sincere hope that people have woken up and have seen how their Government lied repeatedly to their citizens,” writes Schneider, “and I am confident the next administration will hold some of these sociopath liars accountable.” Schneider is also a prominent supporter of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s 2024 Presidential campaign, saying “The last time the world was on the verge of nuclear war, we had a Kennedy in the White House who, along with his brother, prevented it from happening. We would be very well advised to put another Kennedy in the White House in 2024.” Follow Rob Schneider at https://twitter.com/RobSchneider and watch his comedy special “Woke Up In America” on Fox Nation. Visit https://robschneider.com/ for more info and his latest tour dates. 「 SPONSORED BY 」 Find out more about the companies that make this show possible and get special discounts on amazing products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors • GENUCEL - Using a proprietary base formulated by a pharmacist, Genucel has created skincare that can dramatically improve the appearance of facial redness and under-eye puffiness. Genucel uses clinical levels of botanical extracts in their cruelty-free, natural, made-in-the-USA line of products. Get an extra discount with promo code DREW at https://genucel.com/drew • PRIMAL LIFE - Dr. Drew recommends Primal Life's 100% natural dental products to improve your mouth. Get a sparkling smile by using natural teeth whitener without harsh chemicals. For a limited time, get 60% off at https://drdrew.com/primal • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 The CDC states that COVID-19 vaccines are safe, effective, and reduce your risk of severe illness. You should always consult your personal physician before making any decisions about your health.  「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. 「 ABOUT DR. DREW 」 Dr. Drew is a board-certified physician with over 35 years of national radio, NYT bestselling books, and countless TV shows bearing his name. He's known for Celebrity Rehab (VH1), Teen Mom OG (MTV), Dr. Drew After Dark (YMH), The Masked Singer (FOX), multiple hit podcasts, and the iconic Loveline radio show. Dr. Drew Pinsky received his undergraduate degree from Amherst College and his M.D. from the University of Southern California, School of Medicine. Read more at https://drdrew.com/about Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we are welcoming my friend Rob Schneider. He kind of has been promoted in the press as comedian Rob Schneider. That doesn't quite capture all of Rob's talents, including having been a screenwriter and a film actor and producer and a Saturday Night Live script, which is really a skit, you know, skit based uh improv uh sort of comedy so he does he does everything but the new york times and others have labeled him uh a a problem that he is some sort of uh misinformed source of grave misinformation needs to be silenced and he and i did a show back in 2020 that new york Times reacted to with vilification. And we will review that article.

In the meantime, lately, Rob has become somewhat of a firebrand on Twitter, I've noticed. I'll read you some of his recent tweets before we get right into the body of the show. Take a brief break here and be right back with the great Rob Schneider. Our laws as it pertains to substances are draconian and bizarre. Psychopaths start this right. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction, fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous. I'm a doctor for **** sake. Where the hell do you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals. Let's just deal with what's real.

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Just click on that link. Thank you to our friends at TWC. I think they're going down a very interesting road there and'll have access to a lot of interesting medical treatments, frankly. But stay tuned for more of that. As I was saying, Rob Schneider, I've known Rob for a long time. We used to live in the same community, and I think that's how we got hooked up, or maybe through Loveline. But we'll talk about the little journey he and I have been on through COVID together.

We were put in various cancellation prisons. The guillotine was brought out, especially for us. And we'll look in retrospect. Using the retrospectoscope, how wise were those brilliant journalists at the time in 2020? And I just noticed Emily Barsh sent a a article that was written about a tweet that rob put out that essentially said canada what's wrong with you please reclaim your your rightful place in the in being the coolest country in the world great rob schneider joins us and a fan of canada in spite of their recent prime minister's excesses. I know. But the thing is, there is no consequence.

There's no repercussions for this tyrannical behavior. I mean, Justin Trudeau now is backtracking and saying that he never forced anyone to get vaccinated. He never forced anyone. And it just, you know, they forget. We have video. We have the proof. We have the documents.

I know. I know. They say this stuff into, they say these things into a microphone with a camera rolling and go, what are you talking about? I don't remember anything. What are you talking about? It's really too much. They're counting on the public to have no memory. That's all they can count on.

I guess. But there are too many people that were so profoundly harmed by their behavior uh you think of the truckers in Canada I just think of the businesses in California that were just destroyed the and I also I'm beginning to get get a growing concern about college kids who were forced to take vaccines in order to go back to college this is the um I don't know I mean probably up in the Biden versus Missouri case where the circuit judges are consistently looking at the behavior of the government saying this is reprehensible.

And that behavior. They did silence anybody who opposed the government talking points and government, which turned out to be government propaganda. And it was actual censorship. It just was a first amendment violation. That's the reason why it is the first amendment. We've got to remind people, because with that, you don't, without free speech,

you don't have any other rights. They all go. So this was a government that you would think it would come out of the 19, something out of the 1950s, uh, that was way worse actually, because it really did silence any opposition, anyone. And these are talking about doctors. These are active censorship from anyone who, who dared oppose,

uh, what turned out to be, um, incorrect, uh, medical assumptions. And this, the whole idea that science is somehow done and figured out, and we've got it all figured out, and yet you could silence anybody who opposes it. Science is just simply the process of experimentation to find a regularity. That's never finished. It's never finished. It's a procedure.

It's a mechanism to help us ascend to a contemplation of truth. It is not the truth. Yeah, and it's an openness to the truth, whatever that truth is. Skepticism. Well, and the openness requires skepticism at all times, always skepticism. That was trained in skepticism. If you are not allowed to ask the questions, then it's not about finding the truth. It's about sticking to a doctrine.

And then you're really talking about what I believe with all this was, was a religion. And it exposed what you and I both kind of saw coming back in 2020 was the capture of industry. I'm sorry, the capture of our regulatory boards by industry, whereas the revolving door between the pharmaceutical industry and government boards that are supposed to protect government health, I'm sorry, the people's health, like the Center for Disease Control and the FDA, there's just a revolving door. And so you have very easily the mouthpieces of industry, which is paid by industry like the New York Times, to just do a hit piece like they did on us in March of, or was it April or March of 2020? April, April 2020.

But we're going to go line by line through it. We're going to go line by line through it because I want us to just mock the shit out of these people because that's the only defense you have you can either take legal action and really hurt people which is what their intention was or at least what they did i don't know i don't really know what their intention was frankly i i'm sure they perhaps thought they were just hysterical uh or we can mock them and and mocking is another way to sort of put them in their place but back to your mention of mention of McCarthyism in the 50s. In the 50s, and by the way, the very people that are using these tactics today to silence and undermine the First Amendment privileges of people are the people that my whole lifetime have been pointing at the 1950s and going,

that is the worst excesses of any organization in the history of mankind, which I always agreed with and continue to agree with. But back then, they, because of the McCarthy era silencing of opinions, 90 professors, 90 university professors lost their jobs. And because of that, some laws were put in place to protect these people and their free speech. I was listening to Greg Lukianoff, a First Amendment attorney on Lex Friedman's podcast, and he said, not only is the same thing happening, 200 professors have been fired today under the same sort of excess of silencing for not having proper speech, and those firings are accelerating we're not stopping at 200 those 90 in the 1950s we thought was it unbelievable will never happen again now we're at 200 and climbing rapidly what you have is you have a uh an intolerance that is um endemic

to our society and that's why it's important to point out these little endemic to our society. And that's why it's important to point out these little Hitlers in our society. They're not so little. First of all, you realize, and not that you can excuse, but you see like the Gavin Newsoms and the Governor Whitmers of Michigan, the one in California here,

they love being on the news every morning. They love being out there and getting their face out there. And it is a power that they love to have. But what is really interesting is how susceptible society is to panic, to a sense of doing something about it. I didn't know. Yeah, I agree. We didn't know.

We took it for granted that people would take a breath and not work so fast and that these rights, which you would just assume was written in stone, you realize it's written in a piece of paper, would be taken away extremely quickly. It reminds me of an interesting book by Daniel Goldman in the early 90s about Hitler's willing executioners. Now, his theory was that at the time before he wrote that book, it was that, well, there was a society just like ours, and then the economic conditions became so bad that they needed a scapegoat to blame, and they're going to just blame the Jews and gypsies and homosexuals. Well, that – I bought it. So that was what academia kind of accepted. But what Goldberg was saying was that, and Hitler's willing executioners, was that that's not really true.

It was that in society, in European society, some of the foundational thinking was anti-Semitism. Whereas every 60, 70 years, programs, even in the early 20th century, I was making a film in the Czech Republic. And in 1905, one of the centers of Europe, you had like, well, Paris and of course, Vienna and London, Berlin, also Prague. And the town elders were like, this part of town is pretty beautiful. How can we get more of it? Well, you can't, it's already there. Well, how about if we just limit the number of Jews? So that's why in 1905, they literally kicked out and limited the number of Jews in that area. So this was the thinking of that book. Now I come back to the fact of I just think that there are segments of society that are susceptible to looking to blame people and if you just take out the word uh you know unvaccinated during this whole uh program of the unvaccinated just put in the word jew put in the word homosexual and you realize

what this is it's just another group of people to blame for their problems when things scapegoating scapegoating rob it's a scapegoating mechanisms are very powerful they are in human societies and groups everywhere and especially when the predominant personality becomes narcissistic then it's a narcissistic rage comes up and as opposed to directing it at each other they must all gather and direct it at one which is much more gratifying and what people who do engage in that behavior don't realize is it's mathematically certain that eventually everyone goes on the guillotine not just the people you're scapegoating it's only it's waiting for you as well just look at the french revolution it's a perfect example of it you know they the the united states was

disproportionately the uh the shaming and demonizing the new york times ran a piece i'm furious at the unvaccinated and they they said it was just disproportionately low income. So get it. These broke people don't want to don't want to help out. So they're mocking the Don Lemon said these are these people refusing vaccines were idiotic and nonsensical. And Noam Chomsky, who made his, you know, a human rights hero for most of us, you know, traditional liberals. He was so far off on his saying, Noam Chomsky saying that unvaccinated should remove themselves from society and be

isolated. What about how would they get food? Well, actually, that's their problem. So we really have, it was it was something systemic in our society that allows us and what we need to be careful about next time this comes up because I believe there will be a next will we have learned what will we have learned and what are some of the signs that we could we could point to for our listeners to say this is this is a sign where we're no longer being logical and rational. We're just looking for scapegoats. Well, there's a lot of signs we could have looked at.

And first and foremost, this idea of calling somebody or some group dirty, infected, gross, and less than, any of that. It's funny. I just came upon an old Benjamin Franklin article where he was railing on non-whites. And what was he talking about they were in fact they were coming to the the pennsylvania that he loved and were destroying it he was talking about non-saxon germans they were the non-whites he was worried about i mean

it shows you how the our human brain will will create groups out of everything and it's just it's faulty it's delusional it's not okay we have to fight against it constantly when you see people who are rational and normal and like a brilliant thinker like benjamin franklin but there's still that that part of his of all human beings that are susceptible to falling into the trap of scapegoating and and being um intolerant yeah yeah that's the thing to keep in mind. Well, now we have, and now we've gone full circle.

Well, now we're intolerant in the name of tolerance. This is the Rousseauian. Rousseau painted this picture. He created this nonsense. And Rousseau himself was a terrible asshole. Terrible human being.

I mean, like beyond horrible. He with the, what was his thing about the natives, the kind natives, the kind natives or the, the hit some, some aphorism. And, uh, that's what I noticed in Hollywood. They say, don't punch down. These guys, you're punching down with your comedy. Well, that, well, that whole, uh, that whole premise of punching down means that you're, you see yourself above these people and that you need to protect them because they're so feeble and so less than you that they can't defend themselves i find that you know horrendously uh intolerable it's a problematic a problematic construct uh but

but i will tell you hubris is the enemy okay so there's one enemy we can look for. So irrational certainty. Irrational certainty has ruled the day. So rational uncertainty should always be how you position yourself. I got a little hubristic too. That's one of my self-criticisms back. We're going to evaluate our own behavior back in April 2020. And one of my shortcomings was I saw the panic being driven. I thought it was exclusively the press doing it so i was fighting that back because i knew panic never makes things better ever ever ever but i didn't know the government was in on the act only recently have i come to

understand with all the twitter files and the biden versus missouri uh discovery it's just it's astonishing how much the government was involved with, it's just, it's astonishing how much the government was involved with it. It's incredible what it's gotten out. It really is incredible that it's gotten out in such a short amount of time. The only thing that's more incredible is how, and I wanted to talk about this because there became a point after Watergate, which when you look back at Watergate, I mean, Nixon was not involved in on the break and didn't know anything about it. He was only involved in the coverup, which was enough to have him,

well, I guess we'd call it canceled now, and forcing him to resign. That doesn't seem to have been a big deal when you have like, you know, now you have Joe Biden, the defense for the Democrats. Yes, his son was took 24 million. But the how do we know that the President was in the room? It was at his house? Yeah, he was in the room. But the defense is

an admission of guilt. How far we've gone. And I still I think the same way with with COVID and how like, these, these things will be forgotten so quickly. And will there be any lessons learned? The only way we can do it is if we have some repercussions for this reprehensible behavior. That's right. When you reelect Governor Whitmer, when you don't hold, when you allow Governor Newsom to make excuses and pretend that he was keeping things open when they absolutely weren't.

That's just a lie. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. And Trudeau, just a liar. I mean, the fact that they closed bank accounts. I mean, literally, they closed, one bank closed the account of, in England, there was a bank that closed the account of a member of the opposition, a leader of the opposition. And the head of the bank there resigned. But there's no resignation in Canada.

There's no resignation in the United States. There's no repercussions at all for this behavior. So what do we do? Yeah. Well, I think it's coming i i think that uh you know cases like missouri versus biden is going to result in some restrictions of these sorts of behaviors i believe there's going to be some action on public health um autonomy and their ability to run you know fiat control over over populations i believe there are going to be some major major lawsuits against things like

universities that force kids to take a vaccine in order to come to school i there there was an article that came out rob the rob's article came out this week in circulation which is a very fine high-end cardiology journal it's called circulation i've been throwing i've been sending it around to people and it showed it took my breath away i i was i was shocked at how how what an indictment it was it showed that myocarditis was not that common and not that uncommon in young males certainly more common than severe covid in that group okay so myocarditis more common than severe COVID. So you're putting people at risk and taking away little problems. Okay, all right. And then you've heard all this.

It's just myocarditis. It's self-limited. Myocarditis throughout my career is a medical emergency. And now this article showed for the first time that about half of the kids, these were adolescent males who got myocarditis, are going to have lifelong cardiac dysfunction, which means a significant percentage are going to end up in heart failure, hopefully at an advanced age, but if not, on the transplant list.

That is beyond criminal. That is stuff that was... Well, that's where the suit that's where it's going to come that's where it's going to come in from stuff like that um so we're like like so and so and so before we go read our article together um i i want to uh set the stage so people understand this that that rob and I have the life of our friendship disagreement about vaccines. And I've always been open-minded and Rob's always been tossing me books and stuff. And the result of this experience in COVID has me reading Turtles All the Way Down and all these other books trying to figure out, oh, boy, what's, you know, what's, I just became open to things I was not open to before. Now, having said that, I have still vaccinated all

my elderly patients. They have benefited from it. I've seen no adverse event. Even if I did see an adverse event, let's say I got myocarditis, I picked the case, we saw myocarditis, and we saw ventricular dysfunction down the line. It still would have been worth it because the IT, like people in their 80s and 90s, and those people, COVID was devastation. So it was worth the risk to prevent the devastation. But to pretend there was no risk and to mandate it for, and by mandate, I mean, prevent people from going on with their businesses or their college careers. That's a mandate, guys. Mandating for people for whom the benefits are not at all clear and the potential adverse events are starting to really mount up. I don't understand what we're doing.

I just don't. It's even more criminal than that. I mean, the head of the Walensky, the head, Rachel Walensky, the head of the CDC knew a week ahead of time that it was not safe for pregnant women to take this. I still don't think her, I still don't think her kid got vaccinated. They kept asking her and she kept sort of avoiding the question, like, well, he's been vaccinated. Why do you let him go to camp? He's like, camp, I mean, what am I going to do? You know, like, why didn't you let him go to camp? He's like, camp, what am I going to do? You know, like, why didn't you let him go to camp if you were so convinced the vaccine was all you needed? You should have gone to camp. The payoff for all these people on our regulatory boards is the revolving door. And that's why I support Bobby Kennedy for president, because he's the only one talking about this. The revolving door, if you look at Julie Gerberding, goes from the head of the CDC vaccine division to the head of Merck vaccine,

who makes vaccines, which are can totally, you know, the only immunity that was given from the COVID vaccines was to pharmaceutical companies to not get sued. So you have you have people like Julie Gerberding and you have people like the new Julie Gerberding, which is Walensky, who just resigned knowing that saw the writing on the wall. And she knew that it was not safe. I mean, I remember like for pregnant women, weren't even supposed to take aspirin. Here we have a, you know, a, um, a drug that was tested on the last time, 10 mice, 10 mice, and that's it. And you're going to talk about giving it to pregnant woman. And she knew from, from the freedom of information that they, that these were not safe. She had that information, and she had that from Israel,

and all of a sudden she just goes on CNN saying it's perfectly safe to do anyway. That's a crime against humanity. Now going back about the vaccinology, it's just vaccines, vac just meaning cow, and cowpox is what vaccines are. You have to look at this and look at the history of it. And how long did you study, did they teach you about vaccines at your medical school, in all honesty? No history other than the sort of somewhat apocryphal story about the guy that sucked the cowpox in England and then the guy that did the smallpox in the United States

or in the colonial America. But it sort of brushed past. A lot about immune function. A lot about immune function and what cells are activated and how they're activated and some of the... But by the way, that was back when we were getting... Children got five vaccines back then. Now we have what you have.

It's an evergreen drug. It's an evergreen cash cow for once in 1986 when Reagan passed the Vaccine Childhood Safety Act. Congress actually, in the congressional record, Congress said the Childhood Vaccine Safety Act, the vaccines are unavoidably unsafe. However, it does justify the potential benefits, justify this potential risk. Now, what I'm saying is if you look back at that, if you take just to look at one drug, we'll take a look at two. If you look at the measles vaccine, if you can take a look at when the measles vaccine came into society the death from measles had dropped it literally dropped to practically zero deaths and that's before the measles vaccine was put in i mean they even made fun of measles on the brady bunch so if you take a look at that it was no longer necessary to vaccinate everybody the same thing with chickenpox well but there's but there's an interesting so there's interesting this was this was my pushback on that back

in the day when you would bring this up, which was you've never seen somebody die of measles. I have. And it was a child and an adult I've seen, a child that was not vaccinated and an adult that was vaccinated. Did they have other underlying health issues just like in COVID?

No. Not at all. You have to look at that. No, not at all. Not at all. You have to look at the deaths. Well, that's the point. I understand. So hang on. I want to make your case for you.

Hold on. I want to make your case for you. If you look at the numbers before the measles vaccines came in, before it came in, the deaths were practically zero. I didn't say zero. So what makes me wonder. Never been a drug, 100% safe, 100% of the time for 100% of the people. Right, of course.

That's what they need. But 100% true, even Tylenol, whatever. I've said, I've had people die of liver failure from taking moderate amounts of Tylenol. So here's, but here's, I want to make your point for you a little bit, which is I keep trying to figure out why the pediatricians are so aggressive with the vaccines.

And then I thought, oh, remember my experience with the measles? Maybe they've seen a little too much and it's biased them. You know, they're not really looking at the numbers. The fact that kids don't really have problems with this, but they get to see the ones that do. And it biases them and it makes them want to stop it. And they look at the vaccine data and they go, well, there's nothing here for these little kids. They do fine with it. They don't get myocarditis. We got to vaccinate the kids.

I think there's something like that going on. That makes sense. What happened? I think it does make sense. And I'm not saying that pediatricians, I think they're well-intentioned. However, what we've done though is that like these these common childhood illnesses like chickenpox or measles to me these are things that educate the immune system I think it is a real a real problem how we're looking at this thing as far as that bacteria and viruses seem to be the enemy of humanity and that we they are and that our for every human cell we have on our body we have 10 non-human cells and this isn't the enemy this is a bridge to to

a kind of balance with the world so what we've done in essence and i don't yeah is we're going to take a break yeah we traded what traded normal childhood. I get what you're saying. For chronic illnesses. I think this, yeah, maybe, maybe. And I think people are hearing this argument more than ever. And like I said, I would have dismissed this five years ago completely. And now I'm kind of thinking, we got to figure this out. There's something going on here. Rob, I got to take a break.

I know, right? Yeah. I had a good. What'd they say? What'd they say? Tell me the NIH. 54% of American children's and else. That's, that's an outrageous number. Yeah. That in itself is something we got.

We got to do something about that. But by the way, I am going to be moderating a panel with RFK Jr. on October 27th in San Jose. You ought to come up there. I'll get you tickets. And I see Mohatras coming and a food capture woman that's an expert in that topic. I don't remember her name. It's on that poster. But it's at a big theater in San Joseose and i'm really looking forward to it i i i love that uh rfk jr is stirring things up there but i have to take a break and um

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my clinical practice. Not supposed to do that. That's interesting. Well, Rob Schneider, of course, still here with us. Rob, I want to bring to the stage a special guest that I brought in for you. You're smiling as though you're knowing smile. Is that guest available?

Look at that. Hey! Jamie Liso. I thought you were going to get the New York Times guy on. Well, Jamie, what he's saying is he's disappointed. I was literally waiting to see which look of disappointment Rob would use. Rob, I haven't been able to get you on the phone lately,

and I asked Drew, what if you just bring me on the show? He can't say no. That's right. There you go. There you go. So, Jamie, of course, you can see him all the time now on greg cutfeld show uh you got some dates coming up you want to talk about real quick oh sure i'm doing i'm doing a show in a place where i opened for rob schneider and actually uh

met my girlfriend a specialist at the egyptian theater i'll be performing december 9th it's my first theater show ever. That's in Idaho? Is that in Boise, Idaho? It's in Boise, Idaho. Yes, it is, Gene. Wow. Yeah, Egyptian Theater, I thought you meant in Hollywood.

I wonder if that's why no one's been coming to my shows. I haven't been announcing the city where they're at. I apologize. And, dude, Rob changed my life. And you know, you guys know he put me in the TV show. He's one of my best friends in the world, and I owe this man everything. I know sometimes people think, like, all I do is write off the success of Rob Schneider, and that's true. But I also have stuff I do on my own, separate, which is on my website, robschneidersfriend.com.

I miss you, Rob. I i knew i heard about that website you you you mentioned that early in your early appearances on gutfeld and i thought it was so funny that i called rob and i go dude that that guy that was the assistant on your show real rob who i thought was so great and so funny he's just just killing it on Gutfeld. And Rob goes, why don't you tell him yourself? He's sitting right next to me. I'm like, oh, my God. That's right.

Because Jamie, he's one of those guys who he's as funny as if you're right next to him. And, like, you've got to somehow redo this on stage somehow. And he found a place to do it on Gutfeld. You see how quick he is. He doesn't have to practice. He's just that guy. He's like the funniest guy that you know. You know that one really hilarious friend that you had?

That's Jamie. Yeah. Yeah. Well, tell the story about how he got – I know. I hear the dogs. Oh, there. Tell the story about how he got the job as the – that character on Real Rob. Everyone else said no.

And we were that desperate. We were like, no. But Jamie was just the guy that, if you could just kind of do this, we had him read it, then just do that. And he actually is a terrific actor. And also, he gets the comedic timing, you know. And we really had, I mean, some of the most fun stuff I've ever had is just being in the scene with Jamie, going back and forth. Like we were talking about this one thing where I'm going to give him a weapon to go.

And he ends up, his girlfriend gets attacked by a bear in the show, which actually was much funnier. But Patricia, our partner on this my wife uh she said well be funny to have jamie uh jamie attacked by the bear and she said no no be funny if jamie his girlfriend gets attacked and he can't do anything about it and so she was a vegan and she would be upset if i attacked if i fought the bear because she loved animals. And you see her just go. And so I loved, I really did love real raw.

I really was a major, major fan. I told you, I liked the music you selected. I haven't told, I don't think I've told Jamie this story yet. You guys should watch it. I'm sure you can still see it on Netflix or on Amazon, but,

but I've, every time I see Rob, I give him this rash of shit. And I'm going to pretend like Rob's not here because you've heard it too many times. But I don't think I've ever told Jamie. When I first started watching the show, I'm like, oh, my God, it is so good. But I watched to the end. I'm like, who did the casting? I'm like, they, I'm like looking at the casting, the casting, thinking they just overcasted that wife. Oh, my God, the wife who did the casting i'm like they they they i'm like looking at the casting the casting thinking they just overcasted that wife like oh my god the wife is doing the casting and then i'm like and then they go on and i go his wife his actual wife is in the show i'm like oh

my god i have to tell rob this and rob died laughing when i first told him i was like god either no one's gonna believe it rob i sorry. They just overcast that one. That's the only problem with the show. Your wife is not believing it. That's the only problem with my life. My wife's not believing it. Yeah. But it's been fun.

It's been fun. And Jamie's, we got to end up doing season three somehow. You know, if Netflix wants it or not, we're going to do it. You really should. There are a lot of sort of diligent fans like myself that really miss it. And I told you this before you sidestepped this question a couple of times. I love the music you use in the intros and outros and some of the jazz. And was that your selection? Yeah.

Yeah, I did. I worked with his terrific Kevin, Kevin Pinot, what's his name? I'm playing. He's a French composer and he's really super talented. And I want to make sure and get his name right.

Kevin, he's French, and I wanted some kind of French-sounding music. Oh, my God, Kevin Pinot. I'll get his name. But I'll put that on the website. He's a really talented guy, and he did the music. Be very careful. Navigate these waters carefully. The way you're pronouncing his name in French is getting terribly close to

their version of the word asshole. So be careful. Okay. All right. All right. I'm so sorry about that. I'm sorry. But he was,

he did a great job on that and hopefully we'll get, you know, it's, it's really nice because it got to really get Jamie out there. And then, I mean, it's just to see him flourish. I mean, it really, because really, if you see Jamie live, you really get a taste of like an hour of just hilarity. And I hope people get a chance to go see him in Boise, Idaho at the Egyptian. And where else are you going to be, buddy?

I'm all over. I'm finishing up a tour of Florida in Boise, Idaho at the Egyptian. And where else are you going to be, buddy? I'm all over. I'm finishing up a tour of Florida right now. I'm going to Orlando, Port Charlotte, and Dania Beach. You were just at that room. You sold out a bunch more shows than they've ever sold out there. I'm headed there this weekend. Okay. Well, you'll have a great time.

We're going to be down there. We're going to be down there the following week. But I really do want to come see your stand-up, and hopefully we can coincide on Gumpfeld. The three of us, it would be really fun if the three of us showed up sometime. I learned so much doing those love lines with you, Doc, because you know what I also learned about sciences was it's a regularity because there was so many times – I did it so many times with you.

After a while, I could – because of you, I was able to figure out what the problem was you know you said well this clinical science yes yes clinical science yes when you and that's what that's what adam always said he goes he goes adam said it this way because people go adam how are you to say you know to offer advice and how do you know he goes because i've heard of thousands and thousands of calls and these patterns begin developing he goes he goes he goes if you're going to study polar bears, you study about 20 of them, and you watch the patterns, and then you kind of understand polar bears. Humans are not – there's a lot more variation, but it's not that different in terms of these little short assessments anyway. And that's why –

But it did some of the same basic the same basic kind of problems. And, uh, but it was great. But also the thing about what really made me angry about the New York times attacking you is because you have spent your life, Dr. Drew, helping people and educating people and making them feel comfortable and never talking over people's heads. You would have somebody like me, who's just this ignorant comedian, no medical degree. And you'd let me talk about things because it was coming from a place of experience and that place you didn't put us down just because you have letters after your name, like so many of these other experts. And Jamie, Jamie, you'll be shocked. Jamie, you'll be shocked to know.

We're still doing that to this day. Oh, I love that. Super happy. I heard, I heard for a while there, you were a real Pinot. It really, the word is actually connard. Connard, that's actually the word. And I thought, yeah. No, connard is duck. That's one of the weird things about French.

C-A is duck. C-O is asshole. It's a very weird word. That's right. I was making that one time, Conard, and nobody wanted to come over. Conard, okay. It doesn't matter.

So, Jamie, are you in Alaska right now? I'm in Florida right now. Where am I? I'm at the Sarasota at this nice place hanging out. I got two nights off at that long, you know, the Longboat Key Island there. And I hit up this weekend. It was all sold out.

And I got some shows coming up this weekend, but we're almost all sold out. Orlando Improv, Miami, and Port Charlotte. So I'm here for another week. Beautiful. Come on and plug some gigs. Yeah, thanks, man. Not only that, I'm just thinking, now how does your ex-wife feel about things

now that you're a massive success? I didn't want to bring that up. Thank God they don't get the news up there. All right, listen, Jamie, thank you for stopping by by i just wanted to surprise rob and uh good to see you hopefully we'll cross paths soon i'll talk to you later all right we'll do so uh speaking of comedy we are going to do a live after dark on november 6th at the chelsea markets part of the new york comedy festival with jimmy f Fela and cat Timf, November 6th. Susan is producing that as very excited about it.

Do you want to say something about it? Oh, can't hear you. Nope. Not hearing you. Sorry. Yeah. Technical.

Um, yeah, I think, uh, Caleb's making a link at drdrew.com slash New York comedy. And we also need to put a link up to the October 27th thing, the thing in San Jose. Yeah.

And he's going to show that poster too. And then he's going to make a link for that. I think he, Caleb, what did I say? It was going to be, there it is. There's the poster right there.

Truth tellers called truth tellers. I, I, again, I'm the moderate moderator. I'm moderate, moderate, moderate,

but speaking of moderate, um, you're open to debate and discussion, which is how we get. We have to discuss everything. There's no subjects in a free society that should not be talked about. And I do think we have to do that. And then to come to a place where we don't demonize, we can discuss and disagree. And hopefully, if somebody has a better point than me, I'll be more than willing to hear it

and also adjust to some of my preconceptions and foundational thinking. Not always. But you know what? This Israeli-Palestinian thing has led to some language and some proclamations that are really uncomfortable to hear. And I thought, well, at least we're doing it at least people say it they feel they can and I I would I would guarantee and defend those people's rights on either side to say

things even when I just don't like them at all I think yes and I noticed we kind of tolerated it I was kind of proud of people. Well, you have to, the alternative to free speech is tyranny. The idea, I want to hear what people have to say. And truthfully, the free speech isn't to protect the good stuff that you like. It's to protect the horrible stuff. Because where do you draw the line and who gets to draw the line? And I do think part of this COVID experience was really an eye-opener to find out who can be silenced. And if they can silence doctors, if they can silence scientists, and if they can ruin the careers of these people, then they can ruin anybody.

Yeah, here's Claire Cat saying question authority. That's right. Not only question authority, but the comedians and the journalists were the ones constantly picking at authority. That was their job. Now they're towing the line of authority. It's such a weird, if you've lived through all that, it's so weird to see it reverse like that. became a point and then glenn greenwald brings this up too where you know in the 70s you had uh people who uh who didn't come from wealth to got into journalism they went into journalism to go after the man to not support government talking points yeah now you have more wealthier people that kind of come into it with an agenda trying to to of support the partisan politics and the objectivity of journalism has now gone out the window. And it's been replaced by this 95% of the partisan journalism is one-sided and it's

just liberal intelligentsia. Oh, there's the piece. Look at that right there. Yeah. So let's go. Let's work our way through it. We're going to go through it line by line and see how it has aged. Okay, you ready?

So glad to use your picture, not mine. I know. I noticed that. I had forgotten that was in there, but I thought, all right, so that's interesting. So here we go. Misinformation. Yeah, Jeremy didn't contest it. Say it again.

Well, I saw some of your tweets. They weren't exactly warm and friendly, but I retweeted it today. They were, but they were, although they were excoriating, they were accurate, man.

They were accurate. Yes. Yeah. Let's go over it. All right. So here's the beginning. Misinformation about the coronavirus continues to circulate across swaths of the American media, on popular podcasts, in blog posts, in online videos, and on primetime cable news shows,

as recently as this week. So he opens with already selling past the sale. So his statement is, he's already saying misinformation is a thing, and I can tell you what it is. That's what he opens with. He doesn't discuss what is misinformation, how do we know misinformation. He already decided he knows. It is what happened.

I forget there's a Latin term for it in law. It's patissio de blah, blah, blah. But it basically make an assumption and then an accusation and then use that accusation as proof right there you go that's exactly what they've done so some of the disseminators are entertainers others are medical doctors some are conservatives who insist the virus is being hyped for political purposes what do we think about that statement it's laughably uh uh you know true i mean basically it's like yes he was his own board there that's right oh and here comes rob one is a

comedian with no medical training by the way i saw somebody on the the twitter on the chat room saying rob has no medical training which rob pointed out to saying Rob has no medical training, which Rob pointed out to you. He has no medical training, who has raised doubts about vaccinating children. So that's at least accurate. Yes, I have. I'm an American and I observe and I also notice that I've been with parents who said their children. Hold on. Don't don't don't listen. Let's not get into that.

That's a different that's a different topic even as president trump and the federal government's top health officials warn that the virus is not something to be taken lightly did we ever say the virus is not something to be taken lightly did we ever just say ignore it or i remember my my my mistake was i compared it to other things i kept saying look we went through H1N1, killed 300,000 people, and you don't even know it happened. President Obama elected not to make a big deal out of it.

I had H1N1. It was horrible, and it killed a lot of people. But it's one thing if we'd been all aware of it and concerned about it and working to reduce it. No, you don't even know it happened. So we're going from a serious virus where you don't know, you didn't even know, to a virus that's more serious, and now we're destroying the world over it.

Now, something's missing. There's like some steps in between that we could be taking. This is missing is that no one died of the flu for a year. No one died of a normal flu so we have to question these things but continue please this is getting fun okay the authorities reported more coronavirus deaths the united states on wednesday and this was a deadly virus these commentators make misleading comments cherry pick facts and go so far as to claim that the virus could be a hoax or a North Korean plot.

So that was some of the politicians. That wasn't you or I, right? Yeah, so they're tying us into those insane statements. You know, there was the inflation and the conflation, I should say the conflation, of everyone who died automatically being consumed. I mean, because it was scary at the time. It's like, well, this guy's parachute didn't open and he died of covid my goodness everyone's getting it you know so you have that now this is the yes and the conflation and probably the appropriate time

to use conard also so so here we go here i come in so dr rupinski celebrity addiction specialist who's hl this is this is i mean before i read it i'm going to tell you this is categorically false and untrue specialist whose hln cable news program was canceled after he speculated in 2016 that hillary clinton might be seriously ill so none of that happened uh a the cancellation of my show was three months before all the controversy about some comments i made about hillary's health care not her she was seriously ill she had a transverse sinus thrombosis and a stroke my whole criticism my whole commentary was how crappy her health care was i was really concerned that I could sort of, I can smell when celebrities

have doctors with celebrities calling the shots and I could just smell it there. And I was like, Hey, they've got her on armor thyroid, which is causes hypercoagulation. She's at a transverse sinus thrombosis. Why are they treating with Coumadin and not Eloquence from one of these other new anticoagulants? And by the way, so I made a whole series of criticisms of her health care, to which her doctors adjusted her care, changed it, and got proper consultation. You kept her alive. It's your fault. No, it's the same thing.

But the thing is, once you go down that road, the next thing, Drew, they're going to say that you're going to accuse Elvis' doctors of giving him the wrong treatment. I mean, if anybody was taking care of somebody, a famous person, it was Elvis' doctors of being, giving him the wrong treatment. I mean, and if anybody taking care of somebody, famous person, it was Elvis's doctors. Well, I see so much of that, Rob. I see a lot of that. Well, you see, well, truthfully, famous people, it doesn't help you. You don't want to be, Dr. Basil Saleme, who's a chief of,

that's why I think I know so much about medicine, you know? I have friends who do, so I can talk a little bit. But Dr. Basil Salameh in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, he's the chief of surgery there. He said that you don't want to be a famous person. You don't want to be treated as a famous person because then they take you and they put you in a special room very far away from all the machines and the nurses. You want to be in the same area as everybody else, close to the machines. It's like when Lincoln,incoln probably would have survived this is uh he would have been obviously had brain damage and everything but they had uh i think it was 11 or 17 different doctors keep putting their finger in the wound pushing the bullet further into his brain and so when

you think about it you just want to be a normal person. Yep. No, that's exactly right. And look, it's probably the case that who is the most famous doctor that signed the Declaration of Independence? I'm blanking on his name. But he killed George Washington. Oh, yeah, he did.

He bloodlet him so much, he bled to death, essentially. Yeah, he had pneumonia, and they kept bloodletting him. He prevented a young doctor from giving him a tracheotomy so he could breathe. He said, there's this new treatment that's happening in France. We are not to cut the throat of our

great president and founder of our country. We will let him die now. And that's what they did. Not let him die. We will bleed him. We will let him. Benjamin Rush. Benjamin Rush. Thank him. Benjamin Rush. Yeah. Benjamin Rush.

Thank you, Benjamin Rush. So how do we get down that path? Well, the Hillary Clinton thing, I wish they would just be honest, the press, and just say, listen, he may know what he's talking about because he's a certified doctor and he knows medicine, but he's not helping the democratic presidential campaign. You can't do at least be honest about that.

And if they would have said that, then I could respect that. But the fact that they just attack you, by the way, Rob, that, that same day, I,

it was my radio station that had me make that. I was on Don Lemon's show the night before. And on that show, Lemon, as he always does, it was like, what's up with this narcissist, this nut, this crazy, this Trump guy? And I was sort of analyzing him. I was not particularly kind to President Trump. But I said one thing. I said, hey, be careful because I described two other cases.

One was a severe depressive and the other was a narcissist bipolar. And I said, would either of these guys be president? He's like, no, no. I said, well, that's Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt. So we got to be really careful when we start talking mental health with our leaders. It's just you got to be cautious. So I did that same thing, by the way, with that Yale professor that came out and she announced that Trump was not suitable for office. And I described in detail Abraham Lincoln's medical history to her. And she was like, well, that guy shouldn't be president. I went, you just eliminated Abraham Lincoln.

Well done, doctor. Believe me, we needed that extreme, maniacal narcissist to take his troops 48 hours in a row and think he can get them to break out through the Battle of the Bulge. And it was George Patton. They didn't want to use him. Yes, he slapped a soldier for having battle fatigue and for not wanting to fight because he was absolutely PSD, we call it now.

And so he was, you know, and rightly told to, to that was, that was a terrible thing to do. But then you need people like this. It's like, you know, and my own mother, like she survived the Japanese occupation of the Philippines. And she, she's the reason they survived because she was brave. And she just was going to do things that maybe some other people didn't do. But that's how the family survived. These people aren't necessarily the most calm and peaceful after the war. I mean, I wish i would have known more about it i know more about it now under the trauma that she went through and how she saw life and how you know and it's like there's a great doctor you would you know dr gabor mate he was he worked with me for a little while and he

said so you don't know you were you weren't yeah he's brilliant he said you don't think you were generationally traumatized like i said what's generational trauma well that's the second generation well how could i be i wasn't and i said well what tell me about you what do you do he said well my you said your mother starved during the war is there anything that you do that and i thought well word food i i never go anywhere ever without food on me, ever. And he said, where do you think you got that from? And I was like, I didn't realize it can be transferred from the womb, you know? And it can be that generational trauma.

Well, there's two ways. Yeah. One is through behavior like that. And the other, they have some evidence of some epigenetic passage, too. So this is a big deal and Gabor has been highlighting the the trauma and additional trauma I mean it trauma is the the thing and by the way all the scapegoating is a mechanism of trauma survivors and stuff I mean this is France man that's that's where this would be for all this stuff well you have the well the difference between the French Revolution and the glorious American Revolution was the American Revolution.

Well, the French just killed everybody and killed everybody who killed everybody. Whereas the American Revolution, they basically kept the rule of law and they kept private property. And they made this about individual rights. And so that's why it was so unique about, as opposed to the French Revolution and the Russian Revolution, which is just to kill everybody and destroy, start from the bottom, destroy civilization from the very beginning. From the very beginning. But they had a lot of commonalities in terms of the psychology and some of the strategies and things, remarkably.

But anyway, here, let's keep reading. Drew has condoned on his current web program, flouting the directives of public health officials who are urging Americans not to go about their business as usual. Boy, that turned out to be the right thing. Well, here's what you have. Unfortunately, I got to tell you,

I caved to that, actually. I actually switched that. I was doing a nightly program on fox 11 and when newsom came out and shut everything down i went all right i must be missing something it is a hard decision he had to make but okay i'll stand by my leaders and be a good citizen little did i know that two years later i'd be going what the hell what are we doing here what is this all about what is that i can say that i was also i was also sucked into the, well, this is not affecting people who are healthy. It is true.

It is not affecting detrimentally people who are basically healthy. And that turned out to be correct as far as 70% of the people who died from the coronavirus were very obese. And the age thing was being hidden from us, consciously hidden from us. And I recognize that in retrospect. Yeah, that was Dr. Fauci's tactic with HIV and AIDS too. What's that? The idea is to shut down debate and discussion right away and dissenters. We have to eliminate them all.

And if you take a look at what the real – I mean, if you start to go down the rabbit hole, which you and I did, obviously, was you start to realize, okay, well, where did this shutdown stuff happen? Well, first, the first country that they shut down was Italy and then Spain. And then so, but where is the information that they were getting? Well, it was coming from Imperial College in London. Who was doing this research? And then, you know, it's Neil Ferguson. Okay,

well, who funds Imperial College? And who funded this? And where are these statistics coming from? And that's coming from China. So it starts to all kind of come around to really the bankruptcy. And it wasn't just, it was the financial bankruptcy. It was the moral and ethical bankruptcy of the West, which is what happened. And when you give your authority away, when you stop questioning, that's when you make yourself susceptible to tyranny. And that's the very definition of it. Or we have people participating in it. That's the part that surprised me, people participating in the tyranny. I always recall this young, go ahead, the ugly.

Well, you got to see people who behave very badly. These are friends of mine and some people that I did call out. And, you know, when you want to isolate and dehumanize people and say that they shouldn't believe and shouldn't live in society, shouldn't get medical treatment, I mean, that was like, I mean, I'm still waiting for Jimmy Kimmel to apologize for that because, frankly, I thought that was just below. He's a good person.

And I think that he showed an element of weakness there that he should apologize for and be aware of. Because we all have the potentiality to lose our humanity at a certain point, depending on where we're pushed. And it is just amazing where that threshold is. And for some people, unfortunately, it was pretty low. So this guy goes on dr pinsky has also i love this handed over his program to the comedian rob schneider i just handed it over i'm sure today we can say the same thing uh a former performer i gotta love his use of words. Who says the coronavirus crackdowns, yeah, I know.

Who says the coronavirus crackdowns are nothing more than political stunts by elected officials seeking the spotlight. Mr. Schneider, who also opposed mandatory vaccines for children, appeared Monday on Dr. Pinsky's program and talked about going out to dinner in defiance of the new guidelines. How

dare you? Well, can I just tell you that was also a lie? Because I went out to dinner on that Sunday, and it didn't go into effect on Monday. So he is a sleazy liar. Because if he would have just done his research, I didn't. So that wasn't in defiance.

It was as a last dinner where i know they're going to close everything down and i and i got to tell you these people love to get publicity i mean you can say that uh i can very very easily say and and mean that you know governor newsom liked getting his face out there every day talking about things, what he can do, and didn't mean it. And he was a hypocrite and proved hypocritical. The only reason he apologized for not wearing a mask at the French Laundry is because someone took a picture of him and had proof. Otherwise, he didn't care about it.

He would have never done it. He didn't really believe it. And isn't that the fact? They don't really believe these things. They just use them for political gain. And so I think I was correct, and you were correct in the whole article. Thank you, Jeremy. Here's the last. What's his name? Jeremy S. what? Jeremy S. Peters, New York Times. Thank you for being so accurate. So here's his last gasp, and then he goes on to other people.

This is in quotes now. This is not affecting people who are healthy. Mr. Schneider said falsely. I, first of all, this is not affecting detrimentally people who have of, or are of good health. And I liked that. He already says, he had already made that predetermined, that conclusion himself, that that was false.

He who takes aim at you for not being a medical expert is expressing a freaking medical opinion himself. How disgusting is that? How upside down? And then they go on to go after me dr pinsky agreed saying sick people should stay home but everyone else go about their business and i'm sure i said elderly people too yeah yeah i think you might have isn't that just sum up everything it was was. But what, what have we learned from this experience? What have we learned? What, where can we go from this? What are the signs that we're

being lied to next time? Or will there be any signs? Will there be repercussions? I know you're saying you're hopeful that there will be, but there hasn't been, we've reelected these people. People want to move on from these painful things. They do. So you have the, you have the potential for the same rhetoric, the same lockdowns and the same things. I hope that people, because when they started talking about masks again in Los Angeles, which is a very liberal place, they knew not to push it too far because they were getting enough pushback. And I think that's what's going to have to happen. In a way, hopefully, I will say this experience i'm hoping is an you

like this an inoculation for future prevention of tyranny yeah i i i agree with that and uh our our producer emily said you know the the her quote is uh calls into the new york times newsroom went unanswered which we tried multiple times to get his, we did. We tried to get his take. Also, I tried to get them to correct some of the stuff back in April 2020. I would have accepted his apology. I would have accepted Jeremy S. Peters' apology. Because I know what pressure he was under and what he was told to write. He wasn't thinking for himself.

So I would have completely accepted his apology. It just is still forthcoming and may never come and that's what they hope for they hope that you don't call them on any of this because they don't get called on it drew except on your show which you've given you and i both we true we tried to call him on it back in april 2020 and they just blew us off we called the attorneys yeah we had and didn't you almost like lose a job or something rob rob or rob did you lose it hey baby there's somebody at the door mandy can you get the door please mandy get the door please oh no it's jeremy oh it's jeremy okay well i did i was fired off of a, I don't want to say the streaming service's name, but it rhymes with Schmetflix for my vaccine sense. But I didn't go public with it because I honestly

understood where they were coming from and they were having, that was their policy. And I didn't take it personal. And I do think I was was hoping and I think that they will they will get over it and I do think we do need to um we do need to exercise our forgiveness not forgetfulness but our forgiveness and I would be more than happy to forgive anybody be more than happy to forgive all those people who who've defamed me and and who said horrible things about me and accused me of killing grandma on the internet, I forgive you because I don't even need your apology. I forgive you for it. But it would be nice if people would acknowledge the fact that there's a tendency, there is a tendency for us as human beings to be intolerant. And from that, horrible things could happen.

And that intolerance needs to be confronted. Each of us needs to look at ourselves and go, how can we make ourselves better human beings? And I know that one day I'm going to do that. I hope you will too, Drew. So you asking what kinds of things we can look for as clues to getting into another problem. To me, the hysteria was the hysterical quality was the part that I... And the first thing that caught me was my ear. I was hearing the same words from the press, and the words were meaningless. Literally, the first thing I heard was, there have been 30 COVID deaths in the United States.

Staggering numbers. Staggering. And I thought, what word are we going to use when we get to 100,000? What are we going to use? Why are you saying this is staggering? So staggering is the first word. That was the first word that caught my attention. Then this other one went on and on and on.

And it's actually his last two words in this article. Jeremy used it in this article. Let me read it. Mr. Paul, meaning we're talking about Ron Paul here, pointed to the small US death toll at the time, which was at the time he was speaking, noting that it was not even over 100 people. It has quickly reached that grim milestone.

Grim milestone. Those are the two words. If you see staggering or grim milestone, you know your something is up. My other theory was, or maybe it's just the press or the propagandists get onto a word. They just get going with a word. Maybe it's not always grim milestone or not always staggering, but it's some word that somebody uses.

They go, oh, that's the word. I'm going to use that. And it's used in every report over and over. And that's how I knew it was wrong and hysterical and wrongheaded yeah in the witch burnings in the witch burnings in Salem the difference between the the people who did the witch trials and this woke and scientism which is a taking science and making a religion of it at least the people who burned people who burned witches even they a humility and know that they were below, they were beneath Jesus's and

they needed Jesus for redemption. They were below that. They had some, whereas the new group of people don't feel like they're beholden to anything or anyone. And they are this righteousness that is above anything. So I find that that is unique and we should be careful of that in the future to keep an eye on that intolerance and that new indoctrination. And also the sin and dirty. It's grandiose caring, self-righteousness, and then being able to see the sinful and the unconverted. That's the construct. And that's what we've been dealing with. And then the scapegoating.

I'm glad we solved all these problems so quickly. This was a fun little one. I'm with you. You are calming, and I always feel better and that's why you've been such a help for for all of us over these years and that's why like it was so important for for them to attack you because you were a voice of reason and they couldn't have reason at that time they had they had to expel reason right it turned out that was part of their playbook the playbook was to go They had to expel reason. Right.

It turned out that was part of their playbook. The playbook was to go for people with pedigrees who people listened to, who were reasonable. Jay Bhattacharya, guys like that, Robert Malone, they just had to go after them. You know, it's interesting. A little while ago, you were talking about pregnant women and how we don't let them take any medication, which is true. I always said this. I don't let pregnant women take any medication. That's my policy. And I was doing my board reviews. And as for internal medicine, I came upon my rheumatology questions. These hundreds and hundreds of questions we have to go through. And in one question, they pointed out that hydroxychloroquine, which is a routine medication for our mild lupus patients, hydroxychloroquine is so inert and harmless, you should continue it while women are pregnant and not even think about it.

Well, that is exceptional. Oh, my God. It's the only medication I can think of where that recommendation was explicit. Like, just keep the hydroxychloroquine going because it's a nothing. And I thought, yep, there we are. And people who'd never heard of that medication before had strong opinions about it. That is, again, that's the irrational certainty. Irrational certainty, hubris, those are the enemies.

What do you say to like the CDC knowingly lying and calling ivermectin horse paste? And y'all need to not take this well what is there any comeuppance for those people does that person get fired who tweeted that can we have i don't know can they they took that down they they took that down and there was so much so much crazy so much crazy the same time, you don't know this. On the CDC website for refugees or what's the other word for refugees? Asylum seekers from most countries in the world, the CDC requires them to take five days of ivermectin. Before you come into the country.

That's unbelievable. Everybody. On the website. They didn't delete it. That's on Twitter. It was the FDA. The FDA didn't delete this. The FDA did that, yeah.

I think people have all been up to it. I think that people will not be shy about asking questions, and hopefully they will be shy about silencing others. That's my hope. I mean, that's what I've got to cling to. It's still the greatest country in the history of the world. And we have to see about cleaning up this capture thing. One of my – you mentioned very early in our conversation you mentioned um uh uh crap what's his name the robert canady son of the no you mentioned uh

hunter hunter biden and yeah and my biggest fear about hunter biden is the shenanigans the reason he is that his shenanigans have been allowed because they're all involved in shenanigans that that's what scares me the most that if they if they started uncovering what he was up to they all would have blood on their hands so to speak that scares me a lot you have to have the same laws for everybody and when you have a law on the books you're not supposed to protest in front of the supreme court justice's house or any or any, and you don't enforce that because it's a different ideology, well, then you are just showing to the American public that there are two systems of justice in America. And that's not okay, and that needs to be rectified.

And I will say that America can come back from this and will come back from this. Just like in the Wilson administration, another very progressive presidency where they put in the IRS, which is supposed to be temporary, that's been there ever since. But they also, he threw into prison any, he ran as an anti-war presidential candidate, Woodrow Wilson. And then of course, you know, got us into the war and put in, and then put in, just imprisoned any war protesters just threw them in prison so america has gone down and we'll come back from this too and that was the original sort of beginning of the modern interpretation of the first amendment and free speech speech was the yes as a matter of fact the congressional record

they put in propaganda i wasn't going to mention that, but yes, that's true. It's like we need to talk and we need to lie to the American public to talk to them. And that's where they said the hunt are ripping apart Belgian babies. So just be very careful as we move into this war in the Middle East now. Just be very careful and ask for proof now when they say the Iranians paid for things. We can't just make assumptions. I mean, maybe they did. Everything looks like they did, but can we not jump to, we have to be careful talking about war and expanding wars, how we make judgments moving forward. And that we need to question, just like we need to question

and what we proved out to what our questions were valid questions three years ago during COVID. We need to continue to allow the questioning of everything that our government does, and especially in the area of war. So it's a very, it's a lesson. And like I would say, it's important that moderates and I'm a moderate, you're a moderate, that we are allowed to speak and ask questions. Anything our government does, or the free speech, it doesn't mean anything. Rational uncertainty. But Rob, you're not a military expert. How dare you talk about anything?

Don't even discuss war, because you're not a military expert. How dare you? Tomorrow to slam me on that. And I got the perfect writer, Jeremy S. Peters. All right. Well, listen S. Peters. All right. Well, listen, great to talk to you.

We sometimes do get in trouble, you and I, so we'll see what happens. I had to get an insurance policy before we had you on the show today. Me too. Well, let's see if I'm still working next weekend. All right. We'll all go see Jamie. And you're going to come up to to uh san jose and see me in october 27th and then the new york comedy festival november no number six october 27th

november 6th and uh rob anything you want to put out there yeah i'm going to be in roanoke virginia on saturday and friday i think i'm going to be uh um at an opera house in virginia i don't know the other place i'm sorry but I'll be in Virginia. You can look it up. Opera house. It's beautiful. The people working there love it because it's just a microphone. They have nothing to clean up after. A microphone stand. Throw away my bottle of wine.

The acoustics. Thanks for having me. I think you'll probably encounter people that watch today's show and probably show their appreciation so yeah we have a big crowd out there on rumble today too interesting to see what they say all right rob we've kept we've been very generous with your time turn out on youtube too yeah we've kept you long enough my friend we'll hopefully see you in person soon and hi to patricia for me and susan all right we'll do lots of love susan take care love. Love you. All right, guys.

See you soon. It's so funny. I'm thinking about when he was on our show. It was called Dose of Dr. Drew. Yes, back then. And I was looking at the studio and I produced it. It's pretty funny. We put it up on Rumble for you guys to see my tech skills back in the day.

Back in the day. And then Caleb stepped in and cleaned things up. And then when we stopped doing Dose of Dr. Drew, nobody went. And then Caleb stepped in and cleaned things up. He's like, yeah. And then when we stopped doing Dose of Dr. Drew, nobody went, oh, what happened to Dose of Dr. Drew? Not one person. I know. Well, we kind of morphed into this.

They were so happy to see me go. But Peter McCullough tomorrow with Kelly Victory. John Stockton with Kelly Victory. Scott Adams coming in next week. It was supposed to be the vague Marama Swamy, but they have ghosted us a little bit. That was one of our special guests. Michael Turner with Kelly Victory the following week. It was supposed to be the vague Marama Swami, but they have ghosted us a little bit. That was one of our special guests, Michael Turner with Kelly victory the following week. And Carrie Lake has agreed to come in October 19th.

So we've got a lot of good stuff coming up next couple of weeks. Tomorrow is our normal time. If anybody's in New York, get tickets to the comedy festival. Cause it's going to be a fun week and cat Tim and Jimmy Fela, who was on our show, did really well. They're coming on to do an Ask Dr. Drew. And you can ask him questions in person.

I would love that. NomNomYam is asking why we interviewed Kevin McKiernan. Stand by. That's all I'm saying. Stand by. We've got a lot of people on deck. And a lot of people are trying to load things up. Also, October 27th

with Ossie Malhotra and great RF Kennedy Jr. If you're in San Jose, that might be the 28th. Oh, thank you. It says 28th on the event. Yeah. It's a Saturday.

Originally, I thought it was a Friday and I got that in my head. You're right.'re right it's 20 you thought it was the week before i did that that's when you have two doctors book a show they book the wrong day oh well if you listen to his recording he left me a voicemail he goes hey man are you free on october 20th and it literally sounds like october 20th but his australian accent but he said saturday october 20th and i should have should have checked it It's okay. We're going. We changed our plans. You're going to be in Orlando and Boca Raton the week before.

And we're going to fly in. But I don't think the thing you're doing in Orlando is public or private. No, that's for a pharmacy group. That's for an organization of pharmacies. But if you see Drew cruising around Boca Raton, say hi. Yeah, we love it down there. And are we doing David Rubin while we're down there? No, no. He's going out of the country.

How about Viva Fry? Viva Fry, yes. Okay, we're doing it. We're going to do his show on locals. It'd be good to meet him in person. All right, everybody, we'll see you tomorrow at 3 o'clock Pacific time. Correct, everybody? Usual time.

He's going to take us fishing, remember? Usual time before I talk about the fishing. I didn't really want to go yes yes tomorrow is tomorrow at three o'clock pacific with uh dr peter mccullough and dr kelly victory yeah and then thursday it's early again because we have to catch a plane home right it's at noon i believe so noon pacific yeah sorry it's early everybody but we're on a travel schedule. Yeah, we've got these weird travel schedules that screw us up. And yes, and that will be with John Stockton and Kelly Victory.

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