Ask Dr. Drew - Robert Kennedy III: Dr. Fauci’s Final Confession Connecting Metabiota, USAID & Hunter Biden To Pandemic Outbreak + Marc Morano From UN’s COP30 “Climate Change” Conference – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 554

Episode Date: November 15, 2025

Dr. Drew learned about gold, silver & retirement with Augusta – now it's your turn: https://drdrew.com/gold • “Names will be named” says Robert Kennedy III, author of “The Confessions of Anthony Fauci” (avail Nov 18). Bobby “The Third” is the son of HHS Secretary RFK Jr. and married former CIA spy Amaryllis Fox. While investigating Dr. Anthony Fauci’s connections to gain-of-function research and the COVID-19 pandemic, Bobby says he went down a rabbit hole and discovered “USAID was shipping bat coronaviruses to Wuhan through a now-defunct firm called Metabiota… and the #2 investor? Hunter Biden’s Rosemont Seneca.” Activist Marc Morano joins live from Belém, Brazil, where he is covering the UN’s COP30 (also known as Clear-Cut30). Robert Kennedy III is the author of The Confessions of Anthony Fauci. He previously directed Fear & Loathing in Aspen, chronicling Hunter S. Thompson’s 1970 run for sheriff, and is married to Amaryllis Fox, the former CIA spy now serving as deputy director of National Intelligence. Learn more at https://x.com/bobbykennedyx⠀Marc Morano is publisher of ClimateDepot.com, a former senior staffer for the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, and producer of Climate Hustle and Climate Hustle 2. He is the author of The Great Reset: Global Elites and the Permanent Lockdown. Follow at https://x.com/climatedepot 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 Find out more about the brands that make this show possible and get special discounts on Dr. Drew's favorite products at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/sponsors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  • AUGUSTA PRECIOUS METALS – Thousands of Americans are moving portions of their retirement into physical gold & silver. Learn more in this 3-minute report from our friends at Augusta Precious Metals: https://drdrew.com/gold or text DREW to 35052 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/fatty15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/paleovalley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • VSHREDMD – Formulated by Dr. Drew: The Science of Cellular Health + World-Class Training Programs, Premium Content, and 1-1 Training with Certified V Shred Coaches! More at https://drdrew.com/vshredmd • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twc.health/drew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠) and Susan Pinsky (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/firstladyoflov⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠e⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Executive Producers • Kaleb Nation - ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ • Susan Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/firstladyoflove⁠⁠⁠⁠ Content Producer & Booking • Emily Barsh - ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/emilytvproducer⁠⁠⁠⁠ Hosted By • Dr. Drew Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/drdrew⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

More phenomenal and interesting guest. Today we have RFK the third. Did you know there's a grandson? You can follow him on X at Bobby Kennedy X. The book he has written is called, shoot, here it is. I'm sorry, but I'll tell you it's about Dr. Fauci, and what got my attention was, there it is, the confessions of Anthony Fauci, was this tagline.

It's, follow the science, became, don't you follow. the money. Really an interesting way of looking at this. He uncovered all kinds of interesting things, including USAID and use of trafficking bats. We'll get into all that, and then we'll be getting a call from Brazil. Mark Morano, he is at the UN's conference for climate change. They've cleared about a ton of the Amazon to accommodate these guys, their gas guzzling vehicles and jets. The idea is net zero for a population that does not have sewage, fantastic. We'll talk to Mark and we'll talk to Bobby Kennedy the third after this. Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre. The psychopaths start this. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction.

Fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous. I'm a doctor for, I say, where the hell you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals. Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Loveline all the time. Educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat. You have trouble. You can't stop and you want to help stop it. I can help. I got a lot to say. I got a lot more to say.

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And we had to get this, we've got a pretty good setup here going, but it's unfamiliar to me. So it's, you know, I'm like an old dog that if you screw with the environment, suddenly it messes everything up. But I am very excited to talk to our guest today. It is Robert F. Kennedy, the third. The book is The Confessions of Anthony Fauci. he has uncovered a ton and he's here to share with us he let's see what else i can tell but he's directed fear and loathing in aspen about hunter as thompson's 1970 run for sheriff and he is married to a former CIA officer who is currently deputy director of national

intelligence robert welcome uh thanks for having me dr drew i have to say I have fond memories of my friends gathering together to listen to Loveline on the radio as a kid. Where were you? What part of the country at that point? I was in D.C. And, you know, I kind of was thinking about how people used to get together and listen to something, you know, kind of have that communal experience. No, that's right. No, that you're just right at the, you're the last.

the Mohican, so to speak, you're the last remnant of a generation that remembers the importance of radio and how it was a collective listening experience. There was, you know, you defined yourself by the culture of that radio station or the music that was on that station. And in those days, in D.C.,

that was, they would have that big concert at RFK Stadium, right? Mm-hmm. Or is J.F.K.C., what they called it. And then there, I mean, there was the D.C. Chili Cook. off. I remember that getting crazy, but, you know, I would say, do you think that was kind of the lockdowns that completely did in the communal culture, or do you think it was, you know,

the switch from radio to podcasting or something like that? It was, yeah, it was the distribution of media, yeah, where it all became all of a sudden so democratized and so fragmented that there's no longer any unifying. I mean, I mean, I I mean, certainly there's a sort of Joe Rogan is a place that people go, or Jordan Peterson is a place that people go. But back in the day, you would go to events and things that were held by your local radio station. What's it called the HF Festival? W.HF.S.

Oh, the HF.F. Festival. Yeah. That's right. That was the thing. Yeah, and people used to gather around the radio. You know, it seems funny because people say that, and you'd think, like, you know, 1940s, but really in the 90s, we were still doing it. It Lovellia was one of those things where people would do that, and then you'd talk about it

the next day in school and stuff. But let's talk about you. So you're married to a national security or national intelligence expert, a CIA agent. How has that shifted your understanding of the world? Well, when we got married, she had done basically 10 years undercover China, Iraq, Afghanistan. She wrote a best-selling book and the agency actually tried to stop us from publishing it at the last minute. She went ahead anyway and now she's in charge of their entire budget. So, ha. So certainly, I'd say her role, not just as Tulsi's deputy, but at the OMB, the Office of Management and Budget, allowed her to kind of really look into this weird NGO to, you know, private company slash foundation weird circle of cash moving around and just see

how much gets siphoned off. And it's a horrifying amount, much more than people think. When you say siphoned off into dark, spurious projects or just, just unpredictable, sort of... I think it's more like they just take a lot of the money, you know, through every single subcontractor, somebody takes a bite of it and probably 95% of the money is ending up in somebody's pocket. Some would argue that gets washed back into our politics, but, you know, it's hard to say. One of the things I shake my head about these days is people that seem fearful of competition

who disdain people who succeeded competition somehow trust, centralized authority of government to spend money in some way that's exclusively good, in spite of there being no checks and balances and no accounting and just unlimited evidence of grift, I don't understand how people can still have that opinion. Yeah, and the funny thing is you could ask those people about, you know, the classic examples of the toilet seat costing $60,000, and they'll have heard that. But for some reason, they won't make the leap to no, that's not just the Pentagon, that's like the entire

U.S. government. Right. Federal government anyway. And by the way, it's the same people that would say like, well, the CIA was dirty in the 1960s and the 1970s and the 1980s, but it's not dirty anymore.

Yeah. Ridiculous. Yeah. So you go on this journey into the Fauci story. What motivated you to look into this and what sort of surprised you as you looked under the hood? I would say, you know, kind of the concept of the book is everybody would love it if Fauci came out

and just made a full confession, told the truth, no hesitations, you know, and it'll never happen, so I figured that would be a funny book to write. And kind of, whereas many people have to be very careful about. what they say, you read my dad's book, the real Anthony Fauci, it's the citations are everywhere. You know, because he has

to think like a lawyer and he has to prove exactly what happened. And unfortunately, because the U.S. government is really good at not leaving a trail of crumbs. I mean, the crumbs are there, but, you know, there's not a directly provable in

court chain of command. It's distributed. So my dad and many other people in this fouchy space are hesitant to make jumps to conclusions or about exactly what they were doing. But I figured under the lens of a satire book, you're kind of free to do that. So I think this is probably close to the truth of what happened, although I probably have to say allegedly a lot during this interview. well explain to me you you sort of couch it in satire yet at the same time you're saying well but the reality is there's some truth here how is it are there some places where you just go off the plantation and make jokes or or is it is it speculative and then you pull back and go but in fact

here's what happened i would say the satire is more in the voice because it's written in vouchy's voice as though he's telling it to you and i kind of made it as though it was like fat tony from the simpsons giving you the rundown you know so the jokes are in there it's just more on how he talks the facts of the facts but but let's let's talk about you know how we can learn from your book in other words sometimes jokes are a great way to teach right uh and get people to consume information what did you do to anchor your information did you do any or was it just all off hearsay it? Did you use your dad's book?

Where is the anchor so we don't go too far away from reality? Yeah, I've used a combination of my dad's book, Real Anthony Fauci, his second book about it, the Wuhan Lab book. And I would say 90% of the book is based on those facts and 10% is based on just things that have happened since then. So it's entirely factual-based. Give an example of what that thing that happened might be since those two books. Well, I would say, you know, we had the, earlier on the show,

we were talking about the WHO pandemic agreement. Michelle Bachin was there talking about it, right? So that basically happened, you know, in May. And when the U.S. withdrew from that, I would say, massive win on the Trump's part get us out of that you look at the other countries that just kind of wouldn't go along with that vote you've got you know Italy Israel Russia Slovakia there's some holdouts Iran too in there but um you know all in all I don't think I make any crazy jumps I do at the toward the end kind of spin it into this why they do it

and it's kind of like a little esoteric poetry, I'd say. But I think people can read it, and they'll learn, and they'll have a laugh. And maybe that'll have to remember better. Yeah, I mean, it does. As long as they can kind of discern what is satire and what has at least some foundation and citated facts, I want to go back to your wife and your relationship with the intelligence community. Again, well, let me ask that maybe she has. ask you this way. You uncovered some data about NGOs and coronavirus and bats, right? BAT

transports? Yes. And was that for this book or is that something else you had done? No. I mean, that was, I would say like the general story here is the classic Washington Loop where you have USAID giving money on this program called Predict. that was meant to go around and, you know, just take massive samples of animal zoonotic viruses, bats, you know, rats and et cetera, and cataloged them into a database and basically share that database with countries around the world in a way that on the face of it, at least in, say, China's case, it doesn't really make much sense. So I was attempting to... Well, hey a second. Why does it make much sense? I mean, so far, to me, that sounded like maybe not a great use of money,

but a reasonable thing to do, it's catalog zoonotic viruses. So if things, you can sort of compare things that flip over to humanity and whatnot. But where does it not make sense with China? Well, essentially, we paid to give a... 20, I think it was 20,000 viruses to the Wuhan lab, but we didn't get a copy of them ourselves, which kind of seems like a strange thing. That does seem strange.

The U.S. to do. You know, we also taught the same lab, the Ralph Barrack's no-seum technique, which isn't useful at all, unless you're trying to hide essentially a bio-weapon. So that's kind of the questions I'm trying to raise is if you get two steps deep in this story, none of what they're saying makes any sense. You know, I don't think there's really any argument for gain of function research.

It seems to me to, you know, it's just a, it's a bio weapon factory. I think that's kind of been proven. There really isn't any useful purpose to that research. And, you know, I'd love to debate anybody on that because, it doesn't pass mustard. So what do you imagine, do you have a theory on what our relationship was with that lab? What was the U.S. relationship?

Were we laundering research through them? And what do we think we were doing with that lab? And reminding ourselves, there was a time when the scientifics, the communities between China and U.S., not that long ago, maybe eight or ten years ago, we're very close. And so the sense of collaboration,

And even though, let's be fair, the U.S. scientists were obviously and completely hoodwinked. But the sense of collaboration was in the air. Is this a remnant of that? Well, you know, I think that's quite possibly what they would like you to believe. Not sure that it's true, unfortunately. Who's name? You know, the people that, well, let's say, essentially the infrastructure, the virus infrastructure, You've got all, you know, massive elements of the U.S. military, but USAID, you know, and Fauci's department, the NIAID, NIH.

But basically what happened was, you know, we outlawed biological weapons research. It immediately got spun into, you know, sort of this predictive modeling thing where they attempt to predict what viruses will come out by, going and gathering them all, which, okay, like, maybe it makes sense to have a bunch of these viruses, but are the chances of something happening, does that outweigh? The risk there? And I'd say, you know, then you have something like the diffuse proposal, which very closely mimics what was happening in the Wuhan lab leak and you know right there you have them experimenting with bat-borne coronaviruses and attaching you know spike proteins there so inhumanized mice yeah that's a chimeric virus there's absolutely no reason that uh to build that unless you

are trying to create a bioweapon i think so that begs the question Is this research legitimate, or are they just making bioweapons? And I would firmly say, and I say so in the first three paragraphs in the book, that you're kind of an idiot if you believe this wasn't a bioweapon program. Yeah, I mean, I've spoken to scientists who have had to flee China because they were doing coronavirus research on this backbone for the People's Liberation Army on their secret bioweapon program. I mean, there's people that will report, eyewitnesses will report.

what they've done. Legitimate, legitimate sort of sources. But let me switch gears a little bit. A couple of the topics I'm interested in probing with you. One is the USAID generally. I mean, the amount of, I don't know what to call it, waste, I guess I would just call it. And the amount of sort of money that went to NGOs that were working against the interest of this country, it seems, at least. How do we explain that? How do we understand that? Is, again, just what you were describing at the beginning

or just people get their hands on money and they just launder it out places of their particular interest? At the minimum, that's what's happening. My wife was in charge of sort of dismantling USAID. Okay. Basically, I don't know, if you saw that James O'Keefe interview.

So a lot of it was, as that guy said, you know, they're throwing gold bars off the deck of the Titanic. A lot of spending just basically goes into payola, you know, helps the whoever the Democratic charge was, big funds. But a lot of it seems to get siphoned off in weird ways to overseas. It seemed essentially similar to what organized crime would be. do. I think it's a political, organized crime family in this case. And was that the Biden family, the Clinton family, the Democratic committee? Who was the crime family? Well, I would say the

Clinton Global Initiative has some dirty hands on this one. And I would say, you know, if you look at USAID and the program, the predict, which essentially shipped all these viruses to Wuhan, the bag man of those viruses was a company called Metabioda. And, you know, Hunter Biden's Rosemont Seneca owned a 25% stake in that. So I think you can kind of create a vision of what happened here um and i think it had it all circles back into where we're a country that you know basically dc is a big sucking squid that is he is here to take your money and uh use it for nothing good and and again back to people that see the government is

wholly good only the only source to solve all problems uh Don't, are we, is there a learning curve here? Are people understanding that, I'm only recently I've heard people in the federal I'm going to talk about taxpayers' dollars, you know, the your money being used in certain ways. That is new language that I haven't heard for 30 years. Are, is anybody learning anything? Are things going to be different there? Or is the public, are they waking up to what's been happening?

You know, I think a lot of it is the media, right? if there was an actual news network that just covered every crazy thing that happens in DC and focused on every crazy rip-off program they have and did deep dives, you know, I wish CNN would do something like that. Maybe somebody will buy it and they will. But, you know, that's one of the crazy things. You should do a podcast. You should do a series of podcasts on the top 10 craziest.

squid, squid-sucking programs in D.C. I'll play them all there. I'm stealing your idea. I'm going to do that. And I hope you do. And you should take my wife on here and interview. The irony would just be tremendous, and your wife could be an advisor. It's all, you're ready to go.

Yeah, we keep a list of all these crazy stories. And, you know, they're, they're astounding. I think. Can you share one? well unfortunately they're boring you know and that's how they like to keep it uh and the oftentimes i mean the funny thing is that you can if you just start and go to it from a to z on everything u s a id was giving out you'll find company after company that doesn't even have a website they got 250 million bucks and they you know were created less than two months before

uh there's no field in there that says what they do you know that they do you know they're that's part of their initiative. And so you just can kind of like, it's a way to move money in ways that the taxpayer would scream at you if they knew that you were picking their pocket to do this stuff with. It just seems to me like there should be a lot of millionaires propping up all over the place that I suppose they could always just say I won the lottery or something and people wouldn't ask that many questions. But, well, I mean, if you look, where are this?

Well, so probably back when I was listening to Loveline, all of the top most expensive cities in America were, you know, on the coast. And now the four richest cities in America surround D.C. So I think a lot of the money is just going into people's pockets. Unless Catherine Austin fits is right, and they're building underground military bases. But I don't want to think about that. deal yeah so so and and the other part you know is is your last name which you know do you see

the legacy of the kennedies in government differently a and b your kennedy and your wife's in the intelligence operation can't you get the questions answered about what happened to your grandfather and your your grand uncle well you know i's figure out how this stuff works, the second I heard that there were seven shots fired, and Sirhan only had five chambers in his gun. The problem is, you know, reconstructing who exactly was in charge of these things is tough. I think to some extent when the CIA was operating in its most dirty period. They moved a lot of their programs to private companies so that people wouldn't have the ability to look into them. And so I think there's never going to be a real paper trail

that says, you know, this is Alan Dulles. I order that Kennedy hit. But I think once again, if you are willing to do something kind of like what I did with this Fauci book, which is what's the most likely thing that happened here, you can see it for what it is, which is, you know, essentially possibly a cult of madmen running this country. And I wouldn't be surprised if they wear robes and light candles. Then the first part of my question,

how do you see your family's legacy within this infrastructure? I think it's a continuation. of you know what jfk and rfk we're trying to do what my dad is doing i can't speak for the rest of my family i think they've all gone nuts but um yeah i mean my my wife is a warrior for truth you know she's in there trying to reform the intelligence agencies it's a miracle that um yeah there's a moral person in there these days yeah and um you know she can't even tell me what she's working on half the time she's acute clearance but uh Explain to people what that means.

It's above the president, isn't it? Above top secret or, you know. Yeah, the, it's like why Q and on was called Q and on. Interesting. I would say though that you, you know, it's Washington is a turning, what do they say about turning a battleship, right? You know, it's a hard thing to do, I think, but we're now in an era where we've got, AI that can potentially

make connections that would take a human lifetime in seconds. So I think it's making it a lot easier to kind of see where the money's moving and follow it. And you know, if we could have a nice responsible press, I mean, my upcoming show but if only they would report on this stuff. I mean, I feel like... I think the time has come.

Yeah. We have taken things in our own hands. The wishing for responsible press seems to be a fool's errand these days, but you can find traction with interesting material. People will find you. So let's go forth and uncover the craziest stories from a historical standpoint or from an academic standpoint of no other reason

to get some of those idiots turned on their heels a little bit to start to teach the truth rather than the fantasies about how things ought to be. Yeah. Yeah. If I, I mean, I think what you're going with at the beginning is so important. Like, where does this group think come from? And, you know, how does it emerge? And I mean, you're, you know, I feel like you kind of wrote that great book about contagious narcissism and celebrity. You know, it's, but why normal people are able to be hoodwings so easily? I mean, do you have any thoughts? well um it's you know the the hypnotists tell us that people are really easily persuaded hypnotized more so than we like to admit um and what's that guy's name dan not dan brown is his name is darren brown i think he does what is it darren brown Darren brown you know he does all

these experiments where he shows you how easy it is and how susceptible some people are not everybody and when you look on the scale of mass psychosis where people get hysterical 20 30% of the people go all the way they are the true believers they are the evangelists and 10% maybe even as much as 20% sometimes is the group that goes uh excuse me something's wrong this doesn't feel no no no i'm not so sure of these things and then there's 70% in the middle that just want to be left alone And some of those are persuaded and some of those will kind of go along one way or the other. That's the group we've got to contend ourselves with, the kind of normies who just want to live their lives, take care of their family, and, you know, make a difference in their own small way, not save the world, which is an insane idea. That's narcissism at large.

On a weird side note, and that Darren Brown in that show did an episode where he recreated the RFKSS. vaccination. And it's crazy. Weird. Yeah, he got a guy to stand up, shoot a blank gun at Stephen Fry in the middle of an auditorium of people, and then sit right back down and not remember he had done it. Pretty crazy. Wow. Yeah. See, this is the thing. This is what we even these aspects of the human brain are ineffable. And they're not technically in psychology, technically, because psychology is a clinical science, really. You know, people get problems and conflicts and traumas and how do we heal that definitely not on the sort of cognitive dissonance

side because they're actually in an altered state when they're doing these things it's not the cognitive systems aren't even operating so there's this sort of middle zone go ahead i have a theory that a lot of dc actually runs on the kind of hypnosis that darren brown does i think occasionally politicians somebody will walk in that room and do the weird handshake put them down for 20 seconds and tell them you know you're going to do this or maybe get them in a situation where they do something really bad on videotape either way but you know if people can do that on stage in 10 seconds imagine what's happening in this town well not only that what at the at very minimum they are hiring people that are experts in this kind of I mean

using the word persuasion, that Scott Adams' word, that are experts in that kind of persuasion and getting people to do things on a mass scale. They're using these techniques, and these techniques are very powerful in their work and in bad, in the wrong hands. We need to stop, you've got to get your wife on this. We need to stop using propaganda techniques against the American people. This is not just immoral. It is, it's an emergency and it's disgusting. I mean, this is, this can only go bad. Or we have to educate it. Yeah, I mean, the thing is that they launder, they launder it in the same way that they laundered this virus, which is, you know, since they can't propagandize the American people, they, you know, basically threaten Facebook or Instagram or under the table in a way that, you know, this is a nice house.

It would be bad if you lost it, kind of mafia-esque threat. Yes. And then they do what they know they're supposed to. it's a it's a everything kind of works like that at this point you have three levels no you know you have a really interesting perspective on these things don't don't don't uh keep push push this do more documentaries push this stuff out um because i i think i think you have certainly a a perspective you have a special opportunity from the perspective that you have and you have some really interesting insights and interesting ways of describing them that people will be at least

listening. They may not all grab them with both hands and go, oh, this guy's speaking the truth. It makes you think, at least, like, yeah, this is some of what's going on here. My producer keeps sending me information about pharma ads on television. Is that something you're fighting against? I know your dad obviously is. I think that would be a big step toward curing our media environment with 75, 5% of the news networks. I don't think so, Robert. I think it's certainly back to your mafia models, there's that kind of control elements, but these are part, these are that 20% of true believers. I'm more interested, I'll tell you what a great documentary would be, what's going on

inside CBS when Barry Weiss gets in there. How are these people waking up? Are they seeing their bias? Are they, is she, are they fighting her? I, what, you know, and we have the BBC just admitting that they put together a false video and script of what Donald Trump had said was the fine people owned as a January 6th hoax, that they put that together. It was a complete hoax. They're admitting it now. And then their next word is, but we're not biased at the BBC. We give the truth and our news is never biased. Really? Really. How did you manage to do this? Yeah. I just wish people like you could wave a magic truth wand on some of these people and get them to say why they actually did certain things because uh you know they're professional liars but they're not even very good

ones and i think they're kind of true believers though i think they're true believers and they're hoodwink they're brainwashed they they they're in a community that believes itself and uh that that's why i'm interested in very wise whether there's any sort of aha you know to to to not not for the standpoint of getting, getting them, but to standpoint of do they wake up in some way. But in any event, get confessions of Anthony Fauci, R.F. Kennedy, the third. Keep an eye on him. He's got some interesting insights, and he's been around the swamp. So he's been swimming in the swamp, multiple generations of swimming in that swamp. Thank you, Drew. Have a great one.

All right, my friend. Good to talk to you. Love with the book. next up we are switching gears and we're going to hear from brazil it is the he's mark morano he's got climate depot dot com he is at the he's author of the great reset global elites on the permanent lockdown i'm trying to remember the name of the thing that he's at right now okay it's it's the u.n's cop 30 also known as the clear cut 30 because they clear cut there's the great reset they clear cut a bunch of amazon forest to let these idiots meet, they brought their jets in to tell people a population, 80% of which does not have sewage, that they should be net zero in the next 100 years or something to prevent

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There is a lot to get into here. Mark, thank you for joining us. Thank you, Dr. Drew. Happy to be here. I'm in Belim, Brazil. Phenomenal. Set the stage again. They cleared the Amazon so these guys could land their jets and bring their Lamborghinis in. It's exactly what they did.

And this information was an exclusive brought to us by the BBC just a few months ago. And I give the BBC full credit. they reported that Brazil clear-cut tens of thousands of acres, hundreds of thousands of tropical Amazon rainforest for a new four-lane highway in the city explicitly for this UN climate summit, which, by the way, is the 30th consecutive UN climate summit. Although actually, I don't have to think back. I don't know if they had one in 2020.

They may not have because of COVID, but they had one the year later with, of course, fully masks and all the non-vaccines and everything. I actually attended the cop in Scotland and I got an exemption because I refused to get the Fauci shot and I was able to get in because they had an inequity clause because the developing world didn't have full access. So I was able to travel to Europe and bypass their vaccine mandate. At any rate, this conference was in such a small city that Brazil decided they needed a clear cut for this stretch of highway, all this rainforest. And they've been very secretive about it.

The BBC used drone footage, and we tried. I have a video, if you go to my ex-account at Climate Depot, me where some of the construction is still going on, but it's hard to actually get to where they're still clear-cutting because it's all seemed to be closed off. None of the locals know anything about it. Brazil now, I'm calling it Giltrip 30. Well, we're calling it clear-cut 30 because they clear-cut this.

But now Brazil is calling for billions of dollars to be paid to developing world countries not to clear-cut their rainforest. And my solution is a lot less expensive. How about not clear-cutting it for a UN climate summit? Let's start with that. Exactly. But the Brazilian environmental minister actually went on record with the BBC as saying,

we had to clear-cut the forest. Well, first of all, they need the space, they need to have the traffic flowing for the limousines and the SUVs. They need for all the private jets and all the world leaders. They needed to be able to move. But secondly, he wants as many people as possible crammed into the city of Belim so they can showcase to the world how they've been saving the rainforest. And now, of course, they want to be paid billions of dollars not to chop down

the rainforest. So the whole thing is just the, it's sort of the UN climate circus in a nutshell. And you've been going to these things for a while. How have they changed? Well, great question. I've been going to 22 of the last 24. My first one was the UN Earth Summit in 2002 in Johannesburg, South Africa. The biggest change. change I've witnessed is the corporatization of the UN Climate Summit. In other words, if you went back in 2002, 2005, 2008, I've been to Kenya, to Bali, into South America, Buenos Aires, Lima, Peru, all over the world. I've been to Cairo.

Actually, Charmel Sheikh, Egypt, we've been to Dubai, we've been to Marrakesh, Morocco. the old UN summits would have a lot of the sort of left-wing old-school environmentalists lamenting about capitalism, pro-socialists. It was just what you would expect, a lot of aging hippies. In about late 2000s, certainly anything post-COVID, it's all been co-opted. And what's happened is it's called the financialization of nature. You now have, be courtesy of the world economic forum and everyone else, all these big corporations and collusion with government,

who basically want to own all the land rights, water rights, private property. You have the gobbling up. Some African nations, a fifth of all their land are now owned by these carbon offset companies. Many of them headquartered in Europe through corporations. So white, wealthy Westerners are being able to fly private jets, high carbon lifestyles. And they buy these carbon offsets, which then buy land in Africa at below market rates and basically tell the local population, you can't develop this land. And so what's happened is they're talking about, you know, they're basically going to be buying up. water rights, river, land, agriculture. This is why Bill Gates is number one farmland owner in the

U.S. This is why the Netherlands was trying to crush under net zero climate policies of the U.N. All the small independent farmers in Europe, about 10 to 12,000 Netherlands farmers were facing oblivion if the methane rules and all the net zero climate rules went in because, you know, for some reason agriculture was declared a threat to climate and cow emissions. Bill Gates was funding that. So that's the biggest. change. And so with that corporate shift and that corporate interest and the corporate subsidies, everything's been sanitized. Now you go into a UN summit instead of, you know, even you'll still see stuff like climate justice and the stupid buzzwords, but it's all like crafted, careful language,

corporate slick advertising, all the places you walk around. That's the biggest change. It's the corporate takeover of the environmental left and the climate movement. Well, there's tons of money there, right? And so they're just taking their cut. This is like what Robert was just talking about with the USAID. So how do people reconcile the predictions that were so dire that have not come true? The fact that Bill Gates just took the position that, well, really we've got to worry about things like, you know, the people that are surrounding this event in Brazil don't have sanitation. Yet we're going to ask them to be net zero.

give me a effing break. And then by the same token, I just heard, oh my God, there's a crack in the ice. It's actually going to happen. It's going to raise the water levels 10 feet. Where is the truth? And what are they saying about that? How is the change thing?

Well, oddly enough, the truth now is being spoken by none out of than Bill Gates. And Bill Gates isn't just a billionaire. I mean, he is the godfather of the climate movement. He is the number one funder. He's got his hand in everything. He's got his hand in obviously public health. Gabby and number one funder to the World Health Organization when you combine the Bill of Melinda Gates with his Gabby organization.

He's involved heavily with the merging, if you will, of COVID and climate, or public health and climate. World Health Organization is declared a sort of a climate emergency. Climate is an existential threat. You have hospitals now following net zero rules, restrictions on surgeons washing up. You have cancer, American Cancer Society, fretting over the carbon footprint of cancer treatment. Just last month, you had asthma, the carbon footprint of asthma treatment. You have people going after anesthesia. I mean, this is just nuts. So you have Bill Gates funding

all that. Bill Gates is also funding the research into Harvard University to block out the sun, injecting chemicals in the sky to essentially stop the sun from heating up the earth to geoengineer our climate. Bill Gates is also heavily invested in the lab grown meat, in the fake meat, vegetable oil processed. The lab grown being different to make that distinction. It's the stem cells from a cow, sheep pig, mixed with fetal blood into a petri dish, put into a steel vat, allowed to fester grow, put into a process that looks like the pink slime from chicken McNuggets, and then print it on a 3D printer. He's also pushing fake butter, basically laboratory-grown butter that's not real either. He's doing all this in the name of climate. Having said all of that, Bill Gates ran into an immovable force that he had to retreat from the climate agenda.

And what was that AI? AI power demands are demanding massive investments in fossil fuels, oil, coal, gas. And to the point he needs new- Bill Gates trying to get three-mile island nuclear plant, an exclusive deal to power Microsoft's AI events. So you can't have a climate agenda with restrictions on energy and do that. So what Bill Gates has done is he's came out right before this conference and said, it's not a doomsday. He's rethinking it.

New York Times was shocked. Michael Mann, the climate scientist, immediately started attacking him. a lot of environmentalists are upset. Bill Gates is looming large over this conference, but it's not like he said, oh, I apologize and I'm moving on. No, he's just on the next thing, which is pushing AI, and he realizes the climate agenda is inconvenient to his interests now. Is he at the conference?

Is he going to be there? Is he going to speak? There's no word of that. I don't know how welcome he would be. I think it would be bad optics. It's possible. He's been to many of these, as well as Jeff Bezos, as well as Richard Branson,

as well as George Soros in the past. I mean, we've had a lot of these, you know, left-wing billionaires come and promote this. But, of course, they're all pandering to Trump now, because a lot of it is they're sucking at the federal trough of trying to get AI. Pentagon grants for AI, which Trump administration has given out $100 million. Don't know how I feel about that. I don't know if that's such a great idea to be giving big tech money. And then, of course, utility prices are going up for people across the country.

So in so odd way, the average utility payer, I live in Virginia, we're the number one AI data center state in terms of how many we have. Our electric bills are skyrocketing, and we are, the people in the states with AI data centers, we're subsidizing Bill Gates, Zuckerberg, and Bezos AI ambitions. There's something not right about that, Dr. Drew. Yeah. But how do they explain that that's interesting so far, but how do they explain how absolutely how abjectly incorrect their predictions were for events that should have unfolded 20 years ago and still show no evidence of in any way showing up on the landscape how do they talk about that do they talk about how they got it so wrong are they

reconsidering their models is shouldn't this be something of a scientific conference where they look at their errors? No, in fact, the way, okay, first off, Bill Gates is admitting he got it wrong. And he's saying there's no doomsday, he's rethinking it all, and that's, you know, that it's not going to be that bad. We should focus on development. So he is as close as you get. But what they've typically done, and let's use King Charles as an example, when he was Prince Charles.

He explicitly came up with a hundred-month tipping point. And he literally counted down. There's 91 months left in which we have to act. There's 87 months. There's 65 months. When he got down to zero, without moments of introspection, he literally erased it and then said by 2047, we have to act or we're going to die. It's just like they run out of time.

The tipping point fails to happen, whatever it is, the Arctic Free Ice, at some temperature goal or whatever it is with sea level. And they just like ignore that they ever said it and they just make a new prediction. So when current reality fails to alarm, they make scarier and scarier predictions of the future. And you asked if they've adjusted, no, they have not adjusted the models. In fact, they tune the models as something called RCP 8.5, which is a modeling algorithm, which basically gets an extreme scenario. So when they do a study and the UN loves to hype it, they'll have it make multiple scenarios. They'll have a low range, low range scenario, midrange, and a high

extreme end. You can bet the UN is going to go with that extreme end. And you have the UN Secretary General just coming out with the same crap, every conference. about how the world must act. No one misses it because they know it's all important part of the campaign cause. This isn't about the science. The UN Climate Panel was formed in 1988. It became a self-interested lobbying organization. It was tasked to look at how CO2 influences the climate, carbon dioxide,

and the UN at the same time was tasked with being able to solve the problem. So if at any point the United Nations fails to find a climate emergency, then they lose the second part of their job, which is solving the climate emergency. And so that is why it's a self-interested lobbying organization. They're never going to walk away from it because if they fail to find, if the science, as we heard during COVID fails to find a climate catastrophe, then the UN is no longer in charge of this. They're no longer in charge of the hundreds of billions of climate slush fund.

They're no longer have the ability, as they almost did, just a month ago, imposing that global shipping carbon tax. They're coming after an airline global tax next. They have all of these agreements, treaties. It all goes back to 1992 with George H.W. Bush. They got us into this mess. But to answer your question directly, they have no shame. They never go back. The one thing they're trying a little bit different this time and the opening of this conference, the Associated Press is quoting these UN officials. They're basically saying we, because of these UN climate summits, we've staved off the worst effects to global warming.

We were on the path to two and a half degrees. Now we've limited to 1.5. So they're claiming success. Of course, the problem with that is 80% of our energy still comes from fossil fuels 33 years after we got into this mess from 1992. And every climate summit from Kyoto in the 90s to Copenhagen in 2010 to Paris 2015

to Egypt has CO2 continuing to go up. No climate summit has done anything about what they say is the greatest, existential threat facing our planet. Fantastic. Well, what's fascinating to me is how these sorts of hysterias always have a religious structure to them. This is like the millennials, the millinerians waiting for the rapture.

The rapture doesn't come. They go, oh, I guess we have to date and time wrong. Oh, that's right. It's three years from now. Okay. Well, wait then. This is such a nutty cuckoo human behavior. And the fact that we allow our government to waste money on this

listen, I have no problem with, you know, I was part of the ecology movement back in the 70s. I'm good with us being good of the climate, but the hysteria part and the amount of waste in terms of money and the human suffering that comes on the other side because the money isn't being spent on human flourishing. And like you said, they're requiring these people that live around this city in Brazil who don't have sewage, don't have plumbing, to worry about net zero. Give me a break. Absolutely. In fact, there was a couple things on that. First off, you make a very important point. We need to distinguish the climate issue, specifically from environmentalism. Now, if you go back to the first Earth Day, 1970, you had a real push from Middle America, from people in the cities, from people worried about the filthy rivers, the Cuyahoga River, the New York Harbor, all the disgusting, the smog and water quality. And since 1970, we've raised a consciousness. Now, a lot of people, you know, you've got people ambivalent. The first

Earth Day had a lot of overpopulation, scares and environmental doomsday, but it had, as its thrust, the reason it was successful was not because of the Paul Aerolades' warning about a doomsday overpopulation. It was successful and endured for many decades because Middle America and the average American could identify with it. They wanted a cleaner environment. So what happened was they put it on the sort of the national consciousness. And since 1970, we've had radical increases in economic growth, radical increases in population, all well radically improving our air and water quality. Now, Dr. Drew, the World Health Organization recognizes the U.S. as among the cleanest air

in the world and cleanest water, number one and two. There were still problems. We still have, you know, lead. We still have toxic waste sites. But what happened was climate change hijacked that agenda. So you had absurdity like, remember East Palestine, Ohio. where the Biden administration, all they were worried about is climate change, climate change, and woke and racist highways, and they were letting the people, you know, flounder in those places.

Well, one of the things, when you remove the climate obsession from regulatory agencies, as the Trump administration has done, you can actually start working on the environmental problems that aren't this tenuous grip about concentrations of carbon dioxide in the environment. So my point being is, we have largely solved the air and water quality, even like politico reporters and mainstream reporters, environmental reporters, all admit that. And so climate change had to be its own thing to scare people. And that's where we are with it.

But you mentioned, you know, the idea of spending this money. Well, a couple things here. 80% of the local people here in the city of Belim don't have access to modern sewage. So if you walk out, this is a rental house I have nearly, it's like $4,900 for the week here in Belim. And it's no way, it's near worth that. It's just that there was no housing here. By the way, there's not enough hotels, not enough rental housing. So they brought in cruise ships for the U.N. delegates to stay at.

They brought them in the local air. Cruise ships have a higher carbon footprint than flying here and getting a hotel room combined. It's almost a, they're clear-cutting their Amazon, they're bringing in cruise ships. Yeah, the UK Prime Minister, the royal family flying on private jets. It's just unbelievable. Meanwhile, you have a city here in dire poverty. You take a right outside of this house that I'm renting here. And it's massive building collapse and infrastructure.

There's piles of trash in the streets up to my waist. There's holes in potholes. It looks like after a Beirut bombing in the Middle East. It is unbelievable that the city is just screaming. It needs some kind of development, infrastructure, economic growth. Instead, they're hosting a conference that's going to centralize in corporate government collusion, this central planning to save the plan. as the overreaching goal through net zero, well, real people suffer.

And that's what is so immoral about this whole conference from the beginning. It's always been like this, and the idea being, we're going to worry about a trace essential gas in the atmosphere, carbon dioxide, and we're going to, and their solution isn't for economic growth and wealth for Brazilians. Their solution is climate aid. The other interesting angle is historically the largest attending delegation to these UN summits are African nations. Why is that?

Because the UN figured a long time ago, decades ago, that poor nations are not going to sign on to a UN agenda if it's going to harm their future development. So what they did is they promised them hundreds of billions of dollars a year in a UN climate slush fund. And now you have all these countries coming wanting handouts. It's not necessarily the countries, it's the leaders. And so this money, when the U.S. divvies up this money,

I talked to a South African development activist at a UN summit that was in South Africa a decade ago. And he explained that the UN climate slush fund goes to the developing world leaders who are most likely and able to lock their citizens in poverty and limit their development. The UN will pay you because if you are a poor nation,

your carbon footprint is lower, you're doing it right for the climate. So that means you're going to get money. You're going to be able to hand it out to your friends. You're going to be able to build stadiums in your name. You're going to be able to buy votes. You're going to be able to politically organize. And the UN, that's one of the things the UN is incredibly efficient at, incredibly talented at, I'll say that, is they know the inner workings of politics, they know how to grease the global political scene, and that's how you get the developing world leaders here against the interests of their own people.

When are we going to learn the dangers of these centralized, particularly globally centralized authorities? I don't get it. Hopefully, some awakening shall occur. Thank you, Mark, for the report. Where do you want people to find you? What else you're working on? Climate Depot.com. It's at Climate Depot. We're doing daily reports here. Check out my ex-veed at At Climate Depot.

Check out my website. And I'm fighting this battle. The biggest thing I want to leave you with is George H.W. Bush got us in this UN Sustainable Development, Rio Earth Summit Treaty. The Senate ratified it. I'm calling on Donald Trump's administration to give permanence to the end of this UN relationship. We need to vacate that treaty. He needs to, Mr. President, tear up that 1992 Rio Earth Summit Treaty.

That would give us permanence. It would make it harder for future President Gavin Newsom or AOC to get us back into this mess. So that's what I'm working on and we're reaching out to the Trump administration. So thank you. Thank you. Love an update on that. Thank you for your work. Thank you, Dr. Drew.

All right, Mark. All right, excellent. Really interesting guests today. Coming up tomorrow, I think we have three guests coming. I think if you have a fries coming in amongst other things. Let me throw up our guests in her. Yes, Andrew Wilco and Ms. Pat's going to give us support. She, of course, herself has a wild story.

Thursday, great guest. Charlie Sheen coming in, Dr. Aaron Carriotti. Remember him from the COVID mess? Jiao Ying Summers coming around to Len Kuladi. We've got Bob Henderson coming in with Chloe Carmichael that same day, a big psychological and anthropology day. A lot of guests coming up. We appreciate you being here.

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