Ask Dr. Drew - Salty Cracker: CIA Finally Admits COVID “Likely Originated From A Lab Leak” After Bombshell Rand Paul Whistleblower Testimony – Ep 623

Episode Date: May 15, 2026

“As the CIA has already assessed, COVID-19 most likely originated from a lab leak, and efforts to undermine that conclusion are disingenuous,” says a CIA spokesperson – words that would have g...otten them banned from social media just a few years ago. The CIA’s admission was published after a 20-year CIA veteran dropped a bombshell under oath: Dr. Anthony Fauci intentionally influenced intelligence agencies to cover up the COVID-19 lab leak. Even worse, whistleblower James Erdman testified that the CIA illegally spied on the very investigators trying to uncover the truth. Salty Cracker returns to the show to rip into the deep state, the massive propaganda machine, and the long-awaited vindication for the medical freedom movement. Dr. Drew and Salty also react to the latest cultural insanity, from Gavin Newsom’s multimillion-dollar “free diaper” scandal tied to his wife’s nonprofit to TMZ’s attempted hit piece about Spencer Pratt living at a hotel (because Karen Bass let his house burn down). Salty Cracker is an uncensored clown world commentator known for breaking the left with satire, shame, and ridicule. He is active on Rumble as TheSaltyCracker and on YouTube. Follow at https://x.com/saltycracker9 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/fatty15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/paleovalley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twc.health/drew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Executive Producers • Kaleb Nation - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • Susan Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/firstladyoflove⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Content Producer • Emily Barsh - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/emilytvproducer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Hosted By • Dr. Drew Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/drdrew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:03 Salty Cracker returns. It requires very little introduction. He comments on clown world. It's essentially how I can summarize his life. We've got so much to get into between the COVID hearings and the Hanta virus and Spencer Pratt. And I was just thinking, as we were warming up here, about Gavin Newsom's wife and some of her commentary. I don't think I'm going to be able to get that video. But if he has seen that, it's extraordinary.
Starting point is 00:00:30 And then, of course, we've got all that stuff going on. in China and good news everybody in California. Gavin Newsom is going to give way free disposable diapers. We got something to talk about there as well after this. Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre. The psychopaths start this. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction. Fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous. I'm a doctor for I say, where the hell you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals. Let's just deal with what's real.
Starting point is 00:01:07 We used to get these calls on Loveland all the time. Educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat. You have trouble. You can't stop and you want to help stop it. I can help. I got a lot to say. I got a lot more to say. Behind every F-35 jet is a Canadian company. Horizontal tails built in Winnipeg, engine sensors from Ottawa, and stealth composite panels crafted in Loonenberg to name just a few.
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Starting point is 00:02:10 Thank you for having me back. What's happening? Freshful of a hantavirus, scare. Are you okay? You stay at home for that? Did you see that was a story that came out of, I just saw a story where a Spanish couple, I believe was in Spain, was arrested and imprisoned for child abuse for having held their children in their house, not able to go outside, not able to do anything for like five years because of their fear of COVID? That's frightening. I'm not shocked that's not the only set of parents that's doing that by the way
Starting point is 00:02:48 you got goofballs with the haunt of stuff and all the masks stuff coming out lately with the re-emergence of wear your mask for health or will kill you rhetoric going on I'm sure there's sadly a bunch of four children that haven't seen the actual sunlight in four years
Starting point is 00:03:06 yeah what do people think they're doing with masks I just don't get it what is other than wearing a talisman What is the logic there? What are you going to kill people for not having done? Yeah, well, you know, their entire identity for the last six years has been wrapped up in, I'm medically fragile.
Starting point is 00:03:27 And so if you're a white goofball from Portland and you're used to watching all of these other people who get all of the social media currency through the oppression of I'm black or I'm gay or I'm Muslim or all those other stuff out there, well, for white people, they kind of hand them stuff in their corner. Yeah. So it's, oh, I'm medically fragile. I need to wear a mask. Or you're going to kill me.
Starting point is 00:03:50 So I'll kill you. Oh, clever. It's very clever. Did you see that kid on the ship that had the Hanta virus infection who was crying and carrying on? I look at these people and I just go, I feel so bad that the government and the sort of bottom-up hysteria did this to people. It is a tragedy. Yeah. I'm not a nice person,
Starting point is 00:04:16 and so we made fun of that dude on my show. You made fun of him? Well, you know, it's interesting that these cruise ships, they seem to have, I imagine, more than one customer on it, but that was the only video that seemed to make it out,
Starting point is 00:04:36 and it was a video that was just clearly primed for getting people all revved up emotionally, getting people scared. There are a bunch of CNN-wise, out there who are dying for a fear-borne hit. Yes. Yes. Yeah, I don't know if you saw this.
Starting point is 00:04:58 I think it was yesterday on the view that as soon as Trump issued that, I think it was an executive order or some sort of policy around helping support funding fertility treatment for people, which from my perspective is a, extremely empowering nod towards women so they can gain control of their fertility and work for a while if they want and have kids when they want to if their fertility is funded and it's very expensive and they have control over that technology. It's very empowering to women. On the view, they decided that this was Trump mandating white children and it was specifically designed so that no other races would have kids. That's what their interpretation of this policy was.
Starting point is 00:05:49 And what's very interesting about that is, so there's a clear, stupid agenda that those idiots have on that show. Donald Trump is raising an army of white supremacist babies with this fertility aid. The audience for the view
Starting point is 00:06:06 is 99.9% white people. So the the rhetoric that the view is spewing is anti-white nonsense propaganda to a bunch of white goofball libtards who want to hear that type of stuff. It's very interesting. Yeah, what's interesting? The fact that we've got a bunch of wine moms who at 11 in the morning can watch this ridiculous television show to get hopped up on the stupid propaganda and the people that they hate the most are white people, but they're white people. Well, I saw this articulated by a woman, and I thought she was pretty astute, where she said
Starting point is 00:06:53 the reason it's white women, white people, is because they go to school for all these years, and they are told that they hearken from colonializers, and colonializers have generational guilt, and anybody that is white, European, and has colonialized is only and always bad. and anyone whom they have colonialized is always an only good. So they can't do anything bad, the colonialized, if they engage in some sort of aberrant behavior, it's because they're the white people. So the white women who have a character, they care more,
Starting point is 00:07:33 and they tell themselves they're good people. So what do I need to do to be good? I need to hate on white people. I need to save the world with the climate. And all these crazy hysterical. things that we're seeing, literally an attempt for people who feel like they're not a bad person. Yeah, it's also, it's a way to distance themselves from the other white people. So white people suck. I agree, but I'm one of the good white people because I acknowledge the land acknowledgments
Starting point is 00:08:04 and all that those stupid, ridiculous political pantomiming that these idiots deal in order to, you know, show everybody else what a good white person they are. They're insane people, Dr. Drew. They've got brain aids. Well, there is a delusional quality to all this for sure. So what's your prediction? What I'm trying to figure out? What was so delusional, right?
Starting point is 00:08:32 The Trump derangement is so profound that you can't even talk about fertility without flipping into Trump's an idiot or an asshole, whatever. They just figure out where this goes, and I can't see it. you know it's going to be it's going to be real interesting where this goes because right now you're witnessing with the fertility treatment and essentially anything that trump does right anything that he does like he got artificial coloring out of food and these idiots are like oh my god put my artificial coloring back artificial coloring is good for you just so they're they're doing the meme in real time that whatever trump does they're going to kick back against so what happens in two years because, you know, despite Trump trolling them saying he's going to run again and win, it's probably not going to be Trump in two years. And they don't seem to have the same mental illness fervor that they do for Trump, for J.D. Vance or Ruby or any of the other who I would imagine be front runners were taking the job.
Starting point is 00:09:41 And so I don't know. I wonder if they're like, well, when you yell about Trump for 10 years, what are you doing? Trump's not around. are they going to resort to more meds, more pills, maybe violence, I'm not sure. More medication? Well, I mean, we have an example
Starting point is 00:09:59 in the Biden years of what they're going to do, and it looked like a whole era of lawfare and trying to grab power in such a way that it could never be relinquished or that the system can't operate. That's what it looked like.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Now, I don't know if that was an aberration or some sort of, weird backlash to Trump so he wouldn't come in again. I don't know what that was, but that certainly was not an example of great governance. Well, I mean, that's kind of what they're left with now. Still, I mean, they're still doing lawfare. I mean, the guy, they were able to get a court hearing over the ballroom,
Starting point is 00:10:37 so they paused the ballroom for a period of time. And now they've just launched another lawsuit to stop him from fixing the reflecting pool. and it's like things like you don't want the duck poop cleaned out of the reflecting but the thing's broken and it's leaking water it needs to be fixed and they're like no you're not allowed to fix like he's not allowed to do anything like this and then the the way that we're resorted to is lawfare continual continual continual continual continual continual lawfare even over a ridiculous mundane shed yeah it's tiresome I would like to see government govern I would like to say rather than just represent and rather than engaging in obstructive policies and procedural policies.
Starting point is 00:11:22 It's so tiresome. But good news in California, Governor Newsom is going to invest $20 million in disposable diapers. It happens to be an NGO that his wife is sort of managing or something. I didn't get the exact, let me see if I get the specifics of that. But the real comedy in this is that this guy back about the time, that he would have been tied to wife linked nonprofit network.
Starting point is 00:11:51 There you go. So it's one of her chosen Piccadillos. That is it may. Back when he was, say, around the time he was mayor of San Francisco in California, just before we got apoplectic about plastic straws,
Starting point is 00:12:07 we were apoplectic about diapers. There was this whole movement for cloth diapers because the throwaway diapers, the disposable diapers account for 30% of the landfill and take 500 years to decay to break down. So this is a great example of him not having anything that he actually believes in. But good news, everybody's going to fill up those landfills with his diapers and his wife's funding. Well, yeah, the other thing is going to fill up is her bank account because they're going to do,
Starting point is 00:12:39 what, $20 million, $20 million dollar diaper deal. but they're going to pull $120 million out of the workers' pockets through taxes to pay for it and then I imagine allegedly of course a lot of that money is going to end up some sort of Somali
Starting point is 00:12:57 diaper scam in California we don't need the Somalis for our scams we first a lot of it was aimed at the Armenians in this town but appears it's much much broader than that literally according to
Starting point is 00:13:15 Oz today, half of the hospices and the states are fraudulent. And they have pulled out something like, what did I read, $400 million of hospice or something? 800 hospices and not one called up and said, oh, you got this wrong or, you know, it was just some paperwork problem. They all were literally indefensible and didn't attempt to defend themselves. Yeah. Again, they are playing it smart. I imagine they they don't want the heat because the scams that this state is doing is going to put Minnesota to shame. Like you guys got your leering daycare centers, but I mean, we're out here handing out fentanyl needles to imported homeless drug addicts and monetizing it in a fashion.
Starting point is 00:14:01 That is going to put all other other scams and tax pain set on fire scams to shame. This place is crazy with fraud. Yeah. And there's a weird thing, too. I heard, we'll talk about Spencer Pratt up to the break, but he was talking about how the homeless advocates are these radicals that are really responsible for the homeless thing. Because I know they go into the city council meetings
Starting point is 00:14:34 and the county board of supervisor meetings and they just raise hell in these meetings until the representative just sort of capitulate. and Spencer was saying that just by saying, you can't stab people the neck, you can't walk around naked, you can't walk around with a machete, you can't just lie down on the sidewalk and stay there.
Starting point is 00:14:53 He's getting massive death threats, which I find fascinating. Well, his opponents are going on television. They're going on CNN, and they're doing these interviews. And they're saying, this guy's, it's the same card that they're pulling with Trump.
Starting point is 00:15:12 or any of the political opposition these days. Spencer Pratt's a racist. Spencer Pratt's a fascist. He's a little Trump. I'm like, why? Because he doesn't want homeless people to stab his wife on the street. And they've only got that one tune
Starting point is 00:15:29 that they sing for all of these people who are resonating with the average everyday person who is seeing that these streets are, they're full of homeless people. And the homeless people are incentivized to be here. They've changed the statutes. They've changed the ordinances. They let these people do drugs on the sidewalk.
Starting point is 00:15:48 They let them build tenements on the sidewalk. These places are decrepit. And when you don't hold those people accountable, you're encouraging more of it. And then they say, well, look at this. We just need more raise your taxes. And we'll fix this. And then we get taxes raised and more homeless people, surprise. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:11 They die and then they die. And that's the thing that's just atrocious. And I keep saying a couple of things. You know, one is that they don't take progressiveness of the addictions into account. They progress to death. That is, if you're so sick with addiction that you're living on the street, you're going to die eventually of that disease. Number one.
Starting point is 00:16:27 And if you don't ask addicts to do something, they will not do anything. They will only focus on using and they will die. That's just what happens with this thing. It progresses. So it really is a kind of negligent manslaughter. Yeah. And they're not incentivized to actually fix any of this if the bigger the problem gets, the more money they're able to pull from us. And so it's this incredibly horrible death spiral that is going to get worse until these people get thrown out.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Well, hopefully the Overton window is open enough a little more because of Pratt, because this idea that you can treat complex psychiatric problems and addiction with four walls. All you need is four walls and we're done here. Wow, did I waste my time for 30 years running a hospital-based treatment program? Was that a swastika on a baby stroll? Dave Rubin took this photo. Yes. Oh, well, maybe the chicks on the view had something right.
Starting point is 00:17:28 The dog show is wasting. As is the custom. As is the custom. So paint tight here. We're going to take a little, what, say it again. just look how happy that guy is. I'm over here, sleep deprived, go to work every day. This asshole over here is celebrating Hitler and sleeping.
Starting point is 00:17:52 It looks way more comfortable than us, Drew. Well, as they say, he's so happy. He doesn't know how miserable he is. So we'll take a little break. And when we come back, I want to hear more about what's got you mobilized these days. What would you seem in a darker mood that I'm used to having you or worn down by all this? Something's on your mind. I'm going to get to it right after this.
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Starting point is 00:19:24 Christine, you're an ER nurse. Dr. Drew, what happens if you inject something oil based directly into a vein? Did the drug company lie to the government or did the government just choose to lie to the public? Doing here is very good. We're able to express ourselves. I don't see the profession doing anything to really build trust beside you. Happy to be on here. Thank you for having me.
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Starting point is 00:21:02 So, Salty, what has you worn down these days? What is it making you angry and what's fatiguing you? That's constantly that we can't. seem to overcome? Well, you know, I'm kind of, I'm trying to get geared up. I'm trying to get ready for the COVID 2.0 pandemic that they seem interested in sparking off and enlighten under our balls with this hauntavirus. I'm super-duber scared of it because I saw this guy cry like a bitch on a cruise line about it.
Starting point is 00:21:41 So they're going to light your testicle hair on fire. They're so upset. They're so ready to go with this. They're going to singe the d'artos tunic hairs. So, but, you know, if you saw that, that was an ad for about a year ago. He just played with the TWC. I recorded about a year ago when they were trying the last one, which was bird flu. And they are sort of, our sort of.
Starting point is 00:22:11 response back then was, hey, keep your tablet flu around and stop worrying about the bird flu. And before the bird flu, it was monkeypox. And by the way, I don't know if you noticed, but there was a God forbid, this has never happened before, a gastroenteritis outbreak on a cruise ship yesterday, and they investigated the cruise ship. This was international news. What the fuck is wrong with the press? Oh, they love it. Oh, man, they harken back for a time. where they can put a death toll ticker on the side of CNN and get everybody all scared. Because this time for cereal, Dr. Joe,
Starting point is 00:22:49 you're not going to make it through the fifth annual winter of severe illness and death. Unless you take this brand new Fauci approved MRI vaccine for whatever, who cares, just take it or will kill you. You imagine how much money they've lost by, by not scaring. It was like a billion dollars. Every time they got a booster shot
Starting point is 00:23:16 and they told everybody to go take their 15th booster shot, especially the babies. I think the profit margins on that were huge. Yeah. Yes, they were. Although they've sort of, everything has gone. People are not taking these things now. And we have the Rand Paul hearing just recently.
Starting point is 00:23:38 and I think it's even again today, if I'm reading this correctly. And this former, I think former CIA official, I don't know, maybe still a CIA official. He's a whistleblower. And he is saying that, in fact, Fauci inserted proxies into the National Intelligence Council to push proximal origin propaganda. Now, here's, I have a serious question about this. let's say Fauci, let's say he's called on the carpet. And let's say he says, I don't know what you're talking about. I put representatives in there because I believed it was proximal origin.
Starting point is 00:24:18 We did a paper on it. I gathered a bunch of phyrologists. We looked at the biology and it's proximal origin. What's wrong with trying to influence the national policy on this proximal origin if that's my professional opinion? Well, the plausible deniability should only be able to go so far considering you could see he could obviously i imagine he would say something around those terms the problem is there was a unified vanguard to stop anybody from asking any questions from anybody positioning any other origin story and so you could say well yeah you know i thought it was from this because
Starting point is 00:24:59 you know we got a genetic sequence or something out of it but that doesn't explain how you got legacy media, print media, academics, you got the universities, you got the big tech organization. How in the fuck did you get all of these different parts of our civilization in a unified front to try and shut that down immediately? They put the full weight of all of those institutions. You're talking about trillions of dollars worth of entities. Hyper-focused on, no, of course it was a bat pangolin from a cave
Starting point is 00:25:35 near the Wuhan wet market. And if you ask any questions about this, we'll ruin your fucking life. And so how, I can't square that. Well, so, and not only just here, but internationally. So what, I guess we have to ask ourselves, you know, what set up the circumstance or something like that is even possible?
Starting point is 00:25:58 Is it just the new world of communication we live in that we didn't realize we're so interconnected and that governments have so much power that they could just do with us what they will. I don't know what, I don't understand it. I really don't. Chinese propaganda. You know, it's going to obviously sound like a wild conspiracy theory, Dr. Dr. Drell.
Starting point is 00:26:22 But I think like-minded individuals, like-minded individuals, and humans respond to incentive. And it doesn't matter if you're the Chinese government or the Canadian government or the Austrian government. or the Austrian government or Washington, D.C., if a bunch of these scumbags in these positions of power are offered more money and more power by poisoning us, allegedly, of course, I won't get anybody in trouble. They will all move in a unified fashion.
Starting point is 00:26:51 It doesn't matter that they're, again, we're seemingly enemies with China, but listen, the people who run China have the same interest that the people who run Washington, D.C. and this COVID thing seems to satisfy the urges and the loss of the most evil, tyrannical type of people that you would ever imagine want those jobs in the first place. So I want to, you said that in a way that I want to make sure I heard it. So what you're saying is we have a elite now that is interested only in power and holding power,
Starting point is 00:27:29 that they do it differently in China than here, but they're the same people with the same desires. I'm not entirely sure that they necessarily did it different in China. I think they were ahead of the curve, the COVID lockdown curve than we were, just because of the position that their population is already in with that tyrannical government. And if our government was in the same unique position,
Starting point is 00:27:57 we would have been welded shut in apartments. But they, we got this pesky two-way, Dr. Drew, and, you know, that kind of keeps things at bay, thank God. But no, I think, yeah, no, you, there's a type of mentality in an individual that wants to be in these positions of power. And COVID is, that is the weapon that these people would all lust for. It restricts the will of the people that you govern. It restricts them. It takes way power from them. It gets power to you.
Starting point is 00:28:32 And then it was also the largest transfer of wealth. It was the largest, I mean, we were confetti paper money printing all over the place. These are all saying that it doesn't matter if it's a communist government or a D.C. government or capitalist government or Western government. The ruling class is always the same. The mentality is always the same. And I think what we witnessed was a worldwide rollout of something. And biological weapons seems to be what I would call it if I had to name it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:10 I think that's, I think there's growing evidence that that's what that was. And certainly, Rand Paul has been at this. And so Ron Johnson, too. Now, Ron Johnson going out of it from a different perspective, he's going at more of the vaccine. and the fact that there was safety signals with the vaccine and the population was prevented from seeing that. It really is, I think if we, you know, if you and I, back when you were school teaching, you're not teaching any word, are you? Or are you?
Starting point is 00:29:42 No. Oh, God. There's no way. Suddenly woke up, woke up and you were, well, it might be interesting to have you do so. but if you suddenly woke up and you were here in the present moment from you moved through time since then. Can you imagine trying to make sense of all this? You wouldn't be able to process it. We are moving through the science fiction dystopia that people wrote about in the 70s.
Starting point is 00:30:15 It's so weird that the boiling of the frog situation. of the other day. I was putting one of my shows together, and so I was like, I got to go find that video of mayor, I think de Blasio. The New York City, he's eating a hamburger in French fries, right?
Starting point is 00:30:38 He's sitting there go, oh, I'm not the same. Oh, you're telling me there's a hamburger element to these French fries? You could get this too if you go get vaccinated. And I was sitting there going, holy shit. The hindsight.
Starting point is 00:30:51 It was insane to me six years ago. But looking at it today, it's really creepy. And if it was in a movie, you'd be like, that's so stupid. That's so far-fetched and fucking stupid. Nobody would ever believe that. But no, it happened. We lived through it. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:31:08 And we got everybody on board with it. That's the extraordinary thing. That everybody, I mean, I went along with it too because you had no option, right? If you wanted to move around, you had to have your vaccine card. You have to wear a mask. I had to go to the Middle East. I'd go to Jordan in the middle of all this, like in 2020. One.
Starting point is 00:31:28 And I had to wear a freaking paper mask over my mouth for 22 hours in an airplane. And, you know, I felt so bad. I felt bad for the flight attendants. They were all that strapped in across their face. I still don't understand. I don't, I can't get my head around people that want to defend masking. It's just, it's so obvious now. And that people would use the mask.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Now, it's just, what do they imagine they're doing? They still haven't caught the difference between a virus that is hand-transmitted, fluid-transmitted, droplet transmitted bacteria, and maybe some viruses, and aerosolized viruses, they go 60 feet. Yeah, the droplet, if somebody has a droplet illness, I mean, if you have a strep throat throat throat, maybe wearing a mask over your mouth might do a little something, something. But I can't think of really anything else where a mask would be, I guess, tuberculosis for a while. Like it's helpful if you have TB and you're a aerosar, a droplet former.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Because it does, TB does go by droplets. But I, to me, I guess the reason it bothers me so much is it's a sign of the lack of rational discourse. There's no, there's no conversation. about, hey, let's look at the risk benefit of this and what the probability of it being useful. You just, the world has left that station for some reason, and we're just in the world of flat out hysteria.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Yeah, I remember being a kid, and my dad would have those masks for, he did a lot of woodworking in the garage. And on the box, it would say, you know, don't wear this for long periods of time. Like, this would be harmful to actually wear this long periods of time. And my cousin gave birth, she had to wear a mask while giving birth. And I was sitting there going, that doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:33:29 That's a wild thing. And then you look at these mask holes and you'll see them on especially TikTok. And they've got all the piercings in their face. And they sit there and they go, you need this kind of mask here that has this pressure point. And I got a little ventilator. They're touching all over the mask. They're touching all over their face. They're in their car that's got shit on the steering wheel.
Starting point is 00:33:58 And this mask is what's going to save me from everything. Now, mask up everybody. I'm sitting there going, you've probably just given yourself hip, weirdo. Yeah, yeah. The magical thinking. Caleb, do you have a video of a woman threatening Trump that Emily Barsh is calling the devil-eyed lady? Oh, yes, I know exactly the one she's talking about.
Starting point is 00:34:26 This one is quite interesting. I'm going to pull it up right now. Okay. All right. I have ordered you to speak the truth. It is time for the whistleblowers to start whistling and screaming the truth. Mr. Trump, I will assassinate you. We're at peace.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Get ready, Mr. Trump. Every day you play this game, I will eliminate one of your family members. That will be a proven fact. Last warning, Trump. Baron will be executed for every day you play this scam. I will eliminate one of your family. And that is the fucking truth. Yikes.
Starting point is 00:35:25 We need to put her in charge, clearly. I'm I'm I'm I'm I didn't watch that before the show I'm kind of afraid of airing that at all geez yeah yeah they it to the to the secret service and the FBI this we didn't I didn't know the content nor do we endorse what that woman is up to but but that's so that that's the extraordinary thing that there are people that are sort of mid that's sort of an extreme example obviously but who are I think it's okay to be violent right now for as people that they disagree with. You know, I love her commitment to beauty, to be honest with you, because if I lost an eyeball, I'm not putting makeup on it, I'm not doing the eyebrow, drawn attention to it. I would just roll with it. But God bless her. This is what happens when you're not held accountable for your rhetoric and your actions, when you're yelling death threats for 10 years as long as it's in the direction of one person.
Starting point is 00:36:22 If you did that to Joe Biden, they'd kick your door down. Yeah. That's right. or if you happen to walk by the Capitol on June 6th. You know, you're just, you're happy walking around. Then you're going to prison. Yeah. Well, you had hot conservative moms, Dr. Drew, all across this country.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Yeah. And they were at PTA meetings and they would say, listen, can you perverts keep the child porn out of the public school libraries? And they ended up on FBI lists. Those moms were hunted down. They were looking for those. mom's Joe Biden's FBI was on a mission wasting our taxpayer dollar harassing hot conservative mothers. Now, they don't have any energy for any of these people who go on platforms and record their literal death threats, which is a felony, as long as, you know, and these platforms don't even
Starting point is 00:37:19 seem to care, by the way, demonetized on YouTube for saying, keep dudes out of chicks' bathrooms, but these other platforms, you can threaten to kill the president and the sons. totally fine. Don't do that. Whatever you do, don't mention the word Ivermectin while you're talking about gender and bathrooms.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Then you're done. Permanently off. Yeah. Yeah, I just think about that woman's the remaining eye was kind of pretty. It seemed like it was blue. Maybe she had a lens in there. And she did her hair nicely
Starting point is 00:38:01 and we could get her to a dentist, I would say. That might improve the overall situation. But I am... She is not suspended. I'm getting tired of all this. What's that? She is not suspended. I was like, for sure, this account won't load,
Starting point is 00:38:21 but I went to the account and she is still up there posting videos. That's insane that Instagram has not taken that down. Let's get her on the show. Is anything better than we just saw? saw? It's pretty scary to look at. I can't even show it on screen. It's kind of a scary profile overall.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Oh, come on. Now you've absolutely just you've tantalized us. Don't be ridiculous. Now you have to show something. And I'm finding it. We've got to let the salt flow here, Caleb. There's salt flowing. Do you understand?
Starting point is 00:38:56 Let's see. Let me pull this up here. This is what it looks like. This is a, it's kind of of this. I should have put a warning before, but it is literally, it seems like it's just a constant stream of videos that are similar to exactly that other one there. So violent, violent
Starting point is 00:39:13 threats. Are they all violent threats? I would have to look at the content of each of them, but honestly, I don't want to. I think that's as much as I can take. That was scary. It's just wild that people feel like they can just make direct threats against
Starting point is 00:39:29 the sitting president. That's something that I have, That's new. You wouldn't even mumble those things. I remember whenever I was a child and my dad, my parents were conspiracy theorists. And they taught me back in the 90s, they were saying, don't say the words bomb and the word president when you're talking on the phone in the same sentence. Because some government agency is recording you if you say those keywords. This was like a decade before anything about the NSA or anything with Edward Snowden came out. And so I would never say those two things together on the phone at all.
Starting point is 00:40:00 looking at a report about a Sarasota woman found guilty for calling on Trump supporters to be shot on site on TikTok. Did you see that story? Yeah. She went to, I think she went to prison for a little time. Yeah. So they are finally starting to turn on this and the Department of Justice is finally starting to say, we should probably arrest people who threatened to kill the president, especially he's at his, like third assassination attempt.
Starting point is 00:40:33 She got 13 months, 13 or 14 months, I've seen varying reports, but, and she made a TikTok and she said, I'm starting a new trend. And the new trend is C-Maga hats, Q-Pew-Maga.
Starting point is 00:40:47 And this is a decade going on of the normalization that Donald Trump and Donald Trump supporters are, they're Nazis, they're fascists, that because not calling you a Nazi, because you're an actual Nazi, they're calling you a Nazi,
Starting point is 00:41:05 so somebody will kill you. That's what they're trying to do. And they haven't been held accountable on purpose. There's no way that you can, much like the Fauci and not being able to question the origin of COVID scenario, there is some sort of unifying front that was allowing these people for 10 years to say the world's most wildest stuff on these platforms, not getting in trouble. but if you go back to Obama's terms, they were arresting. There was a dude who mentioned killing Obama in a bar. He's drunk.
Starting point is 00:41:39 He's in a bar talking. Somebody overheard it. He gets arrested. And that happened at least three or four different times where somebody overheard somebody bad-mouthing or threatening Obama, and they got arrested. These people are publicly doing it and posting it and being seen by millions of people.
Starting point is 00:41:55 And finally now getting arrested. well and by the way so who knows what the sort of effect is on the vulnerable but friend of my as a radio broadcaster and he made a joke Obama was coming to town here he made some sort of joke about it wasn't even an assassination joke it was I don't know it was something inappropriate the secret service showed up three days later and interviewed him for two hours because he made a joke on the radio but but first of all I don't want to question your judgment by suggesting that there have been three assassination attempts, my friend. Those were set up.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Those were hoaxes. Those were not real attempts. Trump himself set those up. Don't you know that? I guess I missed the logic train on that because clearly Donald Trump, who's suffering from late stage dementia, was able to whip up multiple assassination attempts where he got people killed but was still able to keep this under wraps
Starting point is 00:42:55 and hide it from. this insatiable, and by the way, I'm glad that there's an insatiable investigative journalist hunt against Donald Trump. I want people constantly under the eye of journalists. I want things investigated. I want them looked into. They're curious about the size of a salt shaker, which is a little bit odd. But I like the gumption, Dr. Drew. It's just weird when that gumption doesn't hold up with other presidential individuals like Joe Biden, his clear dementia.
Starting point is 00:43:24 But yeah, no, he's got dementia, but. He's getting away with these planning attempts to kill himself. Yeah, I fascinated. And his frontotemporal dementia, which is, by the way, according to Rosie, as frontal temporal dementia, has a very powerful kind of speech quality to it. And people kind of blur things out. And yet even with that frontal temporal dementia, he's not blurting out anything about his assassination plots and the conspiracy behind them,
Starting point is 00:43:54 which he seems to be able to keep secret from everybody. Incredible. Quite a master. Yeah, I'd be offended if I was being outsmarted by a dude with dementia. The logic doesn't make any sense. Is that Dr. Rosie O'Donnell, by the way, diagnosing Trump? Yes. Neurologist.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Neurologist. Neurologist. Brain surgeon, neurologist. Yeah, no, the. All right. Go ahead. Go ahead. It's just if you, if you can get this notion,
Starting point is 00:44:27 that all of these assassination attempts are fake, or that Donald Trump is faking them or Donald Trump has staged them, but it's all stage. Essentially, what you're doing is you're giving aid and cover to people who are legitimately trying to kill this, dude. It's a real soft,
Starting point is 00:44:44 acknowledgement and nod to, come on, somebody do it when you say something as stupid as the guy with dementia is, again, you got a man shot and a man killed in Pennsylvania. There was a Secret Service member. shot in the hallway with the last one.
Starting point is 00:44:59 If he is staging these, he's getting people shot and killed while he's staging this, but yet he's able to get away with it. Like he's hiding that, but everything on this administration leaks, right? They keep telling him Donald Trump's an idiot, and he can't get anything right, but he's murdering people and getting away with it.
Starting point is 00:45:17 You need to pick a lane. Oh, yeah, that's right. I forgot about that. But I thought by now people would have tired of all this. You know? I mean, it was going hot and heavy during Trump's first administration, similar stuff. And it's still going. The same kind of, again, it's histrionic. It's hysteria. I used to say a lot that I thought the whole population had become histrionic. I don't say that so much anymore. I think they're delusional. But I think it's a narcissistic underpinning that is a fixed way of thinking about the world where it's all about me.
Starting point is 00:45:57 And everything that Trump does activates me. And I'm on a Hontovirus ship and you need to know about it. It's an extraordinary time. Yeah. And, you know, after doing this for 10 plus years, if you're still doing it right now, I imagine you're not going to back out of it. Like, how do you deprogram somebody that is that deep in the TDS hole at this point? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:25 That's right. All right. We've got to take a quick break. We're going to back with our last segment with Salty Cracker. I'll be watching the Rumble Rance on the Restream for any questions. And we'll be right back after this. Hey, Dr. Drew here. And we are interested in health and longevity.
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Starting point is 00:47:57 Now, we talked about quite a while ago about the CIA hearing and the whistleblower admitting that they're I don't know about admitting there's a lab leak, but admitting that Fauci adulterated the opinion of everybody. The other thing we have now locally here in Southern California is our Acadia mayor is, guess what, a Chinese spy. Guess what, everybody? Good times. Yeah?
Starting point is 00:48:23 You didn't know about this? No, I didn't know about that, but I remember there was a warehouse in Los Angeles. It might have been two warehouses now that I think about it, but they were doing, they had like little rat cages with biohazard facility equipment. They were doing weird stuff. And boy, when you got a mayor working for the Gidees,
Starting point is 00:48:48 boy, that seems like you combine those two things. That's a hell of a problem. Well, I mean, why would you bother having a mayor if you don't want to do a gain of function lab or some sort of bioweapon in the backyard? Yeah, well, you know, in New York, and I imagine you probably got this somewhere in Los Angeles too, somewhere. They got like Chinese police departments. Like there's Chinese-run police department.
Starting point is 00:49:18 So if you got a Chinese-run police department and a Chinese Wuhan lab down there, and it's all being facilitated by your Chinese mayor, you're asking for more hard-eague. Fire is one thing, but fire with. monkey pox, you're in a lot of trouble. Do you have any feelings about the current meetings in China with Xi Jinping? I know the press made a meal this morning out
Starting point is 00:49:46 of warning about Taiwan. Yeah, no kidding, warnings about Taiwan. Why was that even a headline? I don't get it. Unless there was something new said. Would you have any thoughts about this? Trump's being very patronizing to Xi Jinping.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Yeah, I'm hoping he's going down there and I'm hoping that he's saying listen put some pressure on these Iranians you know get them on the page over here we're not letting them have a nuke they can't get their enriched uranium open up the international waterway it's mostly impacting the Chinese at this point that's where they get all their oil so I'm hoping he's saying listen let's get together fix us over here I don't know how inclined the Chinese are to doing that but it being shut down is a big problem for them so I don't I I'm such an asshole. Dr. John, give a shit about Taiwan. I care about
Starting point is 00:50:36 getting my people the hell out of that armpit of the world. And then us focusing back on some of these problems that we got, like, Tommy mayors and governors. Yeah. Yeah. So, well, you're such an asshole. That's what I, that's what I thought. But, but I'm wondering, I always, yeah, you're honest. I'm, I'm wondering, again, I, I, I struggle, much to understand the present, but really what I worry about is the future. And I wonder,
Starting point is 00:51:12 as you look forward, how is it, I ask Krola this question all the time. And he goes, it's going to be safe spaces and octagons. There's going to be red states and there, you're just, people are just going to move. And the blue states are eventually going to have to get bailed out by the red states and they're not going to do that. So I don't know, I don't, that doesn't look like a great future to me. How do you think we find our way out of this? I, I feel like if the other party comes into power, there's going to be insane amounts of lawfare and weird retribution and the sort of banana republic behavior that I just, I just worry. That's why I don't want Fauci to go to prison. I just want to get to the truth.
Starting point is 00:51:50 I want to stop this tit for tat lawfare stuff, but I don't know that it's going to stop. You know, my hope, because I, while being an asshole, am an eternal optimist, I'm hoping. that you're already seeing complex systems in our society shut down with this way that we're carrying out business in such a dumb, stupid fashion. I'm hoping that a continued collapse in some of these areas will spawn new ideas, and the new ideas will get a backing from everybody. You're watching people.
Starting point is 00:52:37 pulling their kids out of school. You're seeing people, the education system is a complete mass, right? And so, you're pulling their kids out, they're homeschooling them, and they're putting them on school on computers these days, but in the house. And then other people around that are noticing that that's a good idea, and good ideas gain traction and pull people in that direction. And so I'm hoping as these idiots who are running these Democrat places off cliffs do that, and people start leaving and building stuff that people see that that's the direction to go and we can get out of this without the entirety of the place falling in on itself. That would be beneficial. But should it fall in on itself, I would suggest get a whole bunch of paleo jerky and guns.
Starting point is 00:53:28 So it's words to live by. But when you say complex systems that are going down, other than education, what are you seeing? Every place that is run by a super majority of Democrats. And you can find these places because they raised their rainbow flags over their city halls. You will notice that these places, they have an inability to move snow when it snows. They have an inability to deal with garbage. Should a truck break down? They have defunded their police.
Starting point is 00:54:06 They have spray painting of that in the middle of the street. And these places are falling in on themselves. Fecal matter on the sidewalks still. There's drug needles in the curbs. There's homeless dead people in the alleyways. And there is no opposition to that. These are fully-fledged, full-tilt Democrat-run places, Democrat City Council, Democrat mayor, Democrat up the butt, everywhere.
Starting point is 00:54:35 and they've fallen in on themselves. People are leaving those. They're leaving them. They will get defunded themselves just by virtue of their tax base leaving. But I don't understand why people keep, it's like they have no ability to see what's happening or they don't care or they have some idea in mind
Starting point is 00:54:58 about where they're going or they're so power hungry, that's all that matter. It's just so odd that they can't adjust course, they can't learn from these catastrophic policies. Well, those people, Dr. Drew, they think that all of the problems, should they even recognize them? Because homelessness isn't a problem, right? It's a problem of capitalism. It's a problem of the Republican. If the conservatives would get out of our way, if these racists would get out of our way, then we would be able to give rainbows to all of these homeless people and fix them.
Starting point is 00:55:33 And so it's always somebody else's problem. They don't sit from a position of logic and look at all of their own policies that were done by a Democrat legislature and a Democrat majority, super majority in all of these places. No, it's always somebody else's fault. You know, I like that description of the future you painted because that does tend to be the way things happen. People move into away from things that are collapsing, as you say, and into things that work. And it's very much like what Hemingway's character said, I think it was the, for whom the bell told, he went bankrupt and one of the other characters said, you know, what's it like? How was it? And he said, well, first it was slow, then it was fast. And I think that might just be the way this all kind of goes down. It's this slow, unending, people like me going, this is ever going to end? And then one day it kind of, it does change all of a sudden. These things don't tend to destroy themselves in a linear fashion. And as this starts to ramp up, you're going to see it.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Look at Detroit. My dad used to be way into cars, and Detroit was always such a huge thing. And it was like a magical. Sounds really gay. It's like a magical place of cars and oil, Dr. Drell. and it had a gigantic GDP, and that place was, it's obliterated. It looks worse than Hiroshima. Democrat policies have more thoroughly destroyed Detroit than thermonuclear bombs have destroyed
Starting point is 00:57:21 Hiroshima. And so these things, I'm hoping, shake people out of their slumber and get them motivated, to get out of the way. Well, thank you for all the salt. Thank you for all the commentary. people find you today or for your next show? Just punch Salty Cracker into Rumble. And you should be able to find us over there.
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Starting point is 00:58:03 And I think you, I leave feeling a little better this show than I have in the past. I think your assessment of how things evolve, I think it's accurate. But it's only going to be if people like you are there speaking up and bringing awareness. So thank you for doing so. I appreciate that. Thank you so much for having me. Always a pleasure to be here.
Starting point is 00:58:26 And thank you so much, chat, for showing up. You got to talk to you soon. We have a call I want to get to here, Janice. So any other callers at 8333. I'm happy to take those calls as well. Hi, Janice. Hey, doctor. It's me again.
Starting point is 00:58:43 I think I had the answer, finally, to whether or not the drug companies lied to the government or the government lied to the public. Oh, she's from the promo. The president of Moderna. Yes, yes, it's me. Okay, go ahead. The president of Moderna was on a podcast on April 16th. It's called Why? should I trust you?
Starting point is 00:59:06 And the President Mnurda not only called the spike protein in their product, garbage and unnecessary, he was quick to point out the fact that they were only paid to develop and manufacture the drug. And the government was in charge of administering it. Oh, for sure. For sure. Yeah, that doesn't that surprise me. I did read that I were somewhere that he said about the spike protein being junk.
Starting point is 00:59:34 Again, I still don't understand. I guess it's the government that's wedded to continuing to use spike-focused vaccines and not ask for something else to be developed, like a nuclear capsid vaccine or something else other than the pathogenic mechanism. Terrible. Yeah, you can hear his whole interview on the podcast, Why Should I Trust You from April 16th. All right. Thank you, Janice.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Good to talk to you. Thank you. Bye. Good. We talked around the Hanta virus a little bit today, and I want to be super clear about that. That is transmitted essentially by powdered aerosolide rat urine. That's essentially its main means of being transferred. There is still doubt, still doubt whether there is ever human-to-human transmission.
Starting point is 01:00:27 There's also doubt about its lethality. Dr. Claire, what was Claire's last name? I've had her on the show before. Very, very fine clinician. She worked with this product, this virus. And she said, you know, the original research on fatality associated with Hata virus was in a group that didn't have access to health care. So if you don't have access to good care, it can be quite serious.
Starting point is 01:00:53 And if you're old, younger, there is a syndrome in children that's quite serious as well. But all of this suggests that we should be doing vector control. We have to control the population of rodents. Or, much like the bubonic plague, we get sick. And in Los Angeles, we do very little to control the rat population. And in California, we have outlawed a lot of the traps and whatnot that we could be using to control the population. and we are in the middle of a rickettsia outbreak, which is rat-born, ratflee. And we are going to see much more of this kind of thing just because of the way we don't control the actual vectors, which are not human beings.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Human beings are not the vector, particularly of this virus. And even on that ship, the going thought is that it's probably the common exposure on the ship that they locked people in. for weeks. If they really wanted to do quarantining, as we have always done throughout medical history, take those people and quarantine them somewhere in their homes, in Nebraska, if you want. But on the ship, made no sense whatsoever. So I do predict we will see a few more people get sick because they were locked in there with common exposure. There's also doubt about whether eight weeks is accurate in terms of the duration of the illness to come to come to symptomatology.
Starting point is 01:02:27 The thought is amongst experts that it's more like two or three weeks. So we should be pretty much through this thing by now. And anywhere you are seeing anybody, oh, there's a typhus outbreak. When did I make that prediction like five years ago? 2018, Drew. You've been talking about this and warning about this stuff coming up. Yeah, well, we're in it. and although they're not making,
Starting point is 01:02:51 they're not really reporting it quite the way they should because it's an embarrassment, but there we go. Let me look at you rumble rants. Yep, yep, the ticks are a problem. There's a whole theory that a Lyme disease may have been a bioweapon too. And you got the guy that worked in the Montana lab where they actually were doing, admittedly were doing a sort of a gain of function on
Starting point is 01:03:14 rickettsial illnesses, they actually, the name of the rickettsia, the bacteria sort of, that we named, was named for the guy that was doing the work on the bioweapon. So it's called Bergdorfi or Bergdorfi. The guy's name was Bergdorf that was developing these bio-weapons. Interesting, very interesting. Okay, I'm looking at the rants, which you guys are up to. Appreciate you all being here with the salty army.
Starting point is 01:03:45 Yep, Legionnaires went through ventilation. Legionnaires, you got to remember, there have been problems on cruise ships forever. They are a classic environment for infectious disease spread. And Legionnaires was one of them. Again, it went through the, as you say, through the ventilation system. But even then, that is another hard illness to catch. It's not highly contagious. And the people that get in trouble with it are again old.
Starting point is 01:04:12 If you're older, you're much more likely to be in difficulty with these infectious. infectious diseases. Drew, one more thing. So I just, when I prepared the show notes, I'm not sure if this has been officially said by the CIA yet until it happened yesterday. So I didn't know if this was big news or not. This was a post by the CIA spokesperson that was basically responding to the stuff that Rand Paul's whistleblower was saying.
Starting point is 01:04:37 And one of the lines in there specifically says, as the CIA has already assessed, COVID-19 most likely originated from a lab leak. when did that narrative change? CIA did say that. They've been saying that right along. It's just that, A, the media doesn't report on that and it's been called a conspiracy theory
Starting point is 01:04:59 or the, it was actually, I think, during the Biden administration that they came up with that and the press reported it as, oh, they're reporting that, but the administration disagrees. That's not possible. And so now the new information is that,
Starting point is 01:05:14 was the one pushing the wet market source and that he was adulterating some of the opinions by forcing his point of view. Now, was he doing it to hide the gain of function that he was involved in developing? Or was he doing it because he really believed this was a zoonotic source at the wet market? We'll never know. I think we're wasting time. We've got to get a consensus going. And there's still been no major sort of scientific consensus about this
Starting point is 01:05:47 where people gather and have a conference about it and, you know, argue it out. Because you can't argue. If you argue, you're a fascist. Isn't that what, like, Naomi Wolf got banned on Twitter for saying? It was either Naomi Wolf or that journalist that we've had on a bunch of times. Like, a lot of people were banned and we got demonetized on YouTube for a while for saying anything along those lines about, oh, it could possibly be a lab leak. and yet the CIA is now saying,
Starting point is 01:06:13 oh, that's what we've been saying the whole time. What are they talking about? Not the whole time. They came out with that probably three or four years ago. But let's remember this was the government muscling the social media and YouTube whatnot to silence these things. That's the most incredible part of this story. I mean, it, and the people that did that remain anonymous and were not in any way
Starting point is 01:06:40 punished for it. And I guess, you know, you have the Missouri versus Biden and you have the Barrensen's sort of judgment now. But there's sort of consensus. Yeah, that's what we did. Anyway, let's move along. It is outrageous. Again, if anyone wants to call, I am taking calls 83337-3739. 8333-D-R-D-R-E-W. I'm going to keep the lines open for a few more minutes. Everybody's quiet. Yeah, people are quiet. today. And I didn't want to... But you know what? I think it's asymmetrical warfare, biological warfare by China, but we were involved, so we never could call them out on it because it would really be us.
Starting point is 01:07:25 What does that mean? Creating the biological warfare. Well, that's the whole point. I could never understand why we weren't going after China for what they did, but it was because we were involved. That is the point, is that, is that, yes, that these originated here in North Carolina that, that Fauci was involved in funding it, and that it went during the, during the Obama administration, there was a time when they put a moratorium on them doing this, and that's when they sent stuff over to Ukraine and China.
Starting point is 01:07:57 And they were still involved with it, and that's why there was not much outrage about it. Even once the CIA consensus was, that's where it came from. So, I don't know, it's all hard to make sense of. in retrospect, mostly it's hard because people aren't allowed to have just good faith discourse about these things. You're somehow a fascist or your conspiracy theorist, if you hold one opinion. It reminds you about the argument around masking. If you in any way question masking, something is wrong with you.
Starting point is 01:08:32 Why would you do that? Why wouldn't you just wear a mask? You must want grandma to die. There you go. All right, no calls. Appreciate it. I'm looking at the rants and the restreams. See what there's anything else there.
Starting point is 01:08:45 People are talking about EZT a little bit. You know, I was there when the boxes of AZT were opened. I will tell you, you know, I don't know what kind of nefarious activity went into getting that to the point where the AZT was approved and distributed. But I can tell you for sure, it was a godsend when we had it because we had nothing to offer these young man. And finally, we had something that might have. extend their life another three to six months. And in that three to six months, perhaps we'd come up with another antivirus or antiviral medication or another antiviral we could combine with the AZT and keep these guys alive a little bit longer. And that's exactly what happened. It's precisely
Starting point is 01:09:27 how it played out so that now we have these combination of more effective antivirals that has turned AIDS into a chronic illness. So to me, that was just one chapter in an evolutionary story I think Fauci, you know, we're sort of learning that he has some behaviors that are not exactly savory, and maybe he did back then as well. But don't blame the AZT. The story, the Dallas Bias Cubs story, that is an adulteration of how it actually went down. And in fact, once we had more effective treatments, the Dallas Biers Club were a serious problem because people kept going to them and they would refuse the antiviral therapy.
Starting point is 01:10:10 they were actually beginning to be useful. So the way it actually went down, for those of us that were there, it was a bleak, sad chapter. And very few people are still around to tell the story. All the patients are gone. And because of the recent history with Fauci, that whole period has been painted with a brush that I think is a little bit inaccurate. So, and I could be wrong.
Starting point is 01:10:35 It's certainly possible. So, all right, quickly, I want to go to the rants again. Military bioweapon, magna, maga, dragon. Yeah, probably. It probably was. But whose? Was it ours? Was it the Chinese?
Starting point is 01:10:48 Hard to tell. Let's see. Yep, they wanted to hide angry hot dog. They wanted to hide the problems, the Pfizer documents for 60, 70 years. This guy says, Dr. Fauci saved many lives during COVID-19 by following the scientific method. No, I wouldn't say that's what he did at all. He may have saved some lives. The vaccines may have been useful for elderly patients.
Starting point is 01:11:18 It also hurts some younger patient. It also caused some disability. I know many doctors right now are spending most of their time dealing with vaccine injuries. Did it also help people? Yeah, I think it helped some of my elderly patients. It did. If you were a college-age student, you should not have taken that vaccine. It was too dangerous.
Starting point is 01:11:37 Yes, Magda, we see how easily we could be. controlled. That is exactly what I hope COVID taught us. Okay, thank you all for being here. Let's bring up the upcoming guest, if you don't mind, Caleb, see what's coming up here. Eric Wall, bowling. We've got, I can't quite read it here. Brad Williams, what happened to who was originally on with Brad Williams? There was somebody I was interested in talking to. Andrew Yang, but he might be, he might still be on that date, but he might be rescheduling to a different day. That's why I took him off the screen. How dare he? I don't have to call it one day. I'll see what's going on here.
Starting point is 01:12:11 It's now been released that here and I were in a reality show together. You put up the cast yesterday, right? I showed it on yesterday's show. I don't have the graphic here, but yeah, I can probably find it online. It's called Nations Dumbest. Called Nations Dumbest. And Caleb likes it because it's his after his last name, Nations. My last name is Nation.
Starting point is 01:12:34 So when you told me that, I was like, yet again. It was a rag tag group. that you never would have imagined would get on together and be interesting together. It was a great experience and a great group. And I think people have a lot of fun with this. All right. So we will see you next on Tuesday. Oh, Yang is coming in June apparently.
Starting point is 01:12:55 Ars just texted me. So he has rebooked. And June, I think, is the shows coming out in July. So that'll be closer to the release of that show. All right. We'll see you all on Tuesday at 2 o'clock. Ask Dr. Drew's produce. by Caleb Nation and Susan Pinsky, Emily Barsh, is our content producer.
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