Ask Dr. Drew - Salty Cracker (Clown World Commentator & Self-Described “Rambling Lunatic”) LIVE – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 298

Episode Date: December 16, 2023

Salty Cracker is one of the most popular creators on Rumble, where he live streams breaking news commentary to millions of viewers every week. The producers of this show could not locate a legitimate biography for Salty, so instead we will describe him by using his own disclaimer, which reads: “Warning: These are the opinions and ramblings of a lunatic. They are for entertainment purposes only and are probably wrong. You listen at your own risk.” Follow Salty Cracker at https://rumble.com/TheSaltyCracker + https://youtube.com/@SaltyCracker + https://x.com/SaltyCracker9 + https://SaltMustFlow.com 「 SPONSORED BY 」 Find out more about the companies that make this show possible and get special discounts on amazing products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors • GENUCEL - Using a proprietary base formulated by a pharmacist, Genucel has created skincare that can dramatically improve the appearance of facial redness and under-eye puffiness. Genucel uses clinical levels of botanical extracts in their cruelty-free, natural, made-in-the-USA line of products. Get an extra discount with promo code DREW at https://genucel.com/drew • COZY EARTH - Trying to think of the right present for someone special? Susan and Drew love Cozy Earth's sheets & clothing made with super-soft viscose from bamboo! Use code DREW to save up to 40% at https://drdrew.com/cozy • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 The CDC states that COVID-19 vaccines are safe, effective, and reduce your risk of severe illness. You should always consult your personal physician before making any decisions about your health.  「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. 「 ABOUT DR. DREW 」 Dr. Drew is a board-certified physician with over 35 years of national radio, NYT bestselling books, and countless TV shows bearing his name. He's known for Celebrity Rehab (VH1), Teen Mom OG (MTV), Dr. Drew After Dark (YMH), The Masked Singer (FOX), multiple hit podcasts, and the iconic Loveline radio show. Dr. Drew Pinsky received his undergraduate degree from Amherst College and his M.D. from the University of Southern California, School of Medicine. Read more at https://drdrew.com/about Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we are pleased to have one of the most popular creators, particularly over on Rumble. We tried to get a little biography on Salty Cracker, but it's a bit obscured. You can't seem to find anything out. So we'll see what I can learn today. You can follow him, of course, on Rumble, the Salty Cracker, and at Salty Cracker on YouTube. Salty Cracker 9 on Twitter and saltmustflow.com. I at least want to know what the issue of the salt is. I mean, I understand through human history the importance of salt,

but I'm assuming for Mr. Cracker it has very special meaning. So we will find Susan's already laughing at Sir Cracker. Sir Cracker, indeed. In any event, we were watching you over on the Rumble Rants. We were on Twitter Spaces. I'm not sure if we're going to have time for calls or not, but we will see. As well, I'm over on the Restream where I'm watching your guys' comments. So after this bit of word from the people that support us, we'll be right with you with Salty Cracker. Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre. The psychopath started this.

He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction, fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous. I'm a doctor for f*** sake. Where the hell do you think I learned that? I'm just saying. You go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician i observe things about these chemicals let's just deal with what's real and we used to get these

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Dr. Drew is one of my favorite people of all time. I used to listen to Loveline with this dude and Adam Carolla when I was in high school. When this dude came out and originally said, COVID's the cold, COVID is the flu. COVID is like a moderate flu. I was like, yeah, Dr. Drew. Yeah, boy, get it. And then he immediately came out and goes, oh my God, no shit. I'm sorry.

No. Oh my God. COVID super duper for cereals bad. Oh my God. You're going to die. You're going to die. Holy shit. And now over the last two years, he's been like, okay, well, fuck man.

All right. All right. All right. Listen. All right. Listen, you probably don't need that shot. And now he's sitting there going, holy fuck. He's done a three, right back at the beginning, boys.

An excellent study, and it showed, it took my breath away. I didn't know why it wasn't headline news. It's a large study, and it showed that about approximately half of the young males that got myocarditis had permanent heart damage. Permanent. That means that we don't know what percentage are going to be disabled by this.

Wow. Wow. Wow. Why don't we welcome Salty Cracker? And we can review my history. Let's do that because it's kind of interesting. And I understand you're prone to a little hyperbole. And we can review my history. Let's do that because it's kind of interesting. And I understand you're prone to a little hyperbole, and I certainly appreciate that.

But welcome, first of all. Welcome to the program. Thank you for being here. Again, a huge fan. Thank you for having me. Well, it's fun. So, yeah. So, you know, it's never one of the things that drives me crazy about social media and YouTube? It's, it's never what you say. It's always what somebody says

you said that goes around. Right. So let me kind of review my actual history. If you don't mind, would you be willing to do it? And you can criticize me all the way along. No problem. Okay. Can you hear me? Okay. Okay. I see you looking with a little bit of confusion. Did I say something wrong? There's a little bit of a delay. Ah, yeah. There is a little delay. It shouldn't be disturbing though. Caleb, maybe you can talk to Susan about speeding up internet speeds or whatever. I'm not sure. Okay. But in any event, so indeed early on, I was throwing the bullshit flag early. I could see that the panic was going to be worse than the virus. That's what I was concerned about. And my initial instinct was, this is the press

doing this just to attract attention. I did not have any idea the government was involved with it. In fact, can you still hear me okay? You're still with me? All right. Good. Is it visually screwing up? Is that why you're looking with incredulity at your screen? Is that what the problem is?

Yeah, there's just a delay. A visual delay. Yeah, it sounds like. Don't look at his lips. Yeah, don't look. Just look at the camera and just listen to the sounds.

That's all. Because it's all going well at this end. All right, cool. All right. So one of the things I was saying, like, stop it, stop it, stop it. Do not listen to these people. They are just trying to get you upset. They're trying to capture your eyes. And you're going to love this. What I said at the end of every comment I made for the first four months was, please just listen to the CDC. Listen to Dr. Fauci. Those guys will get you through this. So have fun. That's where you're

going to have at me a little bit because that's really initially what I got wrong. No, Dr. Drew, I think you, listen, nobody should be getting medical advice from me. I'm a crazy person. And what I don't think a lot of people, I don't know where you're at on this. I was listening to you and Dr. Michael Yead on. This transcends just real basic, normal medical stuff like cold and flu season. And we went through what I seem to believe is a massive psychological operation rolled into a medical operation. There are multiple layers to this thing. And other than Adam Carolla, I think everybody was wrong something that I'm starting to understand. As a dude who was yelling in his garage to four people a few years ago,

when you're talking to four people, it doesn't matter what you say. But when you're Dr. Drew and you're saying stuff and you're reaching millions of people a day, yeah, I understand what you went through. I understand all of this from your perspective. And so tell me more. So about the ops that you think were underway here. I saw so many different crazy levels to this thing. I'm curious what your interpretation is. Well, I was very hesitant the minute they tried to bribe me with an experimental injection for a donut. And so when you see, when something works, you don't need to bribe me to do it.

And all the same people that were demanding that I do this a few months before this, we're all saying that they weren't going to do it. Everybody's on record, Kamala Harris, all of the big mouth Democrat players in this situation, Joe Biden himself, were all screaming that they weren't going to take an experimental injection from Donald Trump. But Donald Trump isn't in a logo baking a vaccine in the basement next to a toilet. The entire apparatus that was put together to develop this injection is the same process,

the same people, the same manufacturing, the same distribution. It's the same chemical. It's the same concoction under Donald Trump. And now they're saying, well, now you better take it

or we're not going to give you steak and shake. Right. Odd, right? It was very weird. And all of a sudden you have to wear, yeah. And then the mask wearing theater was extraordinary where you're protecting somebody when you wear a mask, when you sit down, but you sit down, you take the mask off, suddenly that's

okay. Or you bring the mask down to eat. And by the way, no one was paying attention to how the masks were fit. This is an aerosolized virus that goes 60 feet. They were talking about six feet the whole time, a number they pulled out of the air. This was like wild if you knew anything. And I guess, is it the case, answer me this, is it the case that the government, that we live in this new era of social media and that the government is sort of not used to being questioned or something?

And the fact that people were questioning them or having differing opinions and were having them on platforms where they could reach other people, suddenly this was anathema to how they'd always done business. It was something like that going on. Yeah.

Well, we're in the, we're, we're in the middle of multiple technological revolutions. The, I mean, the, we're still in the infancy of the,

of the internet where microprocessors are still relatively new. The social media platforms are all brand new. Those things are only like 20 years old. And so all these people who thought that they can come out and say, well, listen, we can scare everybody. We can scare everybody into the direction of this big pharma product.

And no one's going to question us or we'll just yell real loud and silence them or we'll threaten them. And yeah, that will play well on YouTube, Twitter 1.0 and Facebook and maybe Apple and Spotify and these other platforms. But there is a whole nother layer that is coming out of this technological revolution that they weren't counting on. Like you banned people. You were getting strikes off of YouTube for giving your medical profession. Still get them.

Still get them. Still get them all the time. Yeah. Yeah. And so that only works if there isn't a rumble. That only works if Elon Musk doesn't buy Twitter. That only works if you can silence all these people. They can't silence all these people anymore.

And you got a bunch of people out there who have circumvented these these barricades in the information sector that we've been so used to getting so they own all the legacy media they own all the legacy print they own the legacy big tech but there is a bunch of people out there who understood that i i was blown away i have a very limited understanding of biology. I took two biology classes in college, and they were prerequisites to get my bachelor's. And I was high through those, Dr. Drew. Me too.

Susan, you were high also, or you took two classes? Probably. Good chance. To be fair, you were drunk. It's a little different. Actually, it was chemistry. I took biology in college. So that being the case, I'm really fascinated by your thoughts on all this because I try to understand this all the time.

I just read Elon Musk's biography. I'm trying to understand what he's doing. I'm preoccupied with Lenin biographies and pre-revolutionary France. And this all seems like the same kind of stuff going on, at least what's going on in the craniums and the mobs. So if you don't mind, and you may not be okay with this, but how did you get involved? What is your background? How did this happen to you? And what are your thoughts as this is moving along and you're becoming more popular um well no i i agree 100 this none of what we're going through is no this is this is saying this is this this is the same exploitation

of basic human nature that these people are utilizing but it's different because the way because technology always increases and the way that these people these monstrous people are doing this is it's it's just playing out in a different form and so with with the internet with the social media platforms with cell phones with the way that information is distributed across the planet and the speeds at which it's distributed right now, these people are still just hijacking people based off of this really basic principle of humans that you could just move them with fear. And so it's all the same thing. And the COVID thing is so in your face. If you just stand back for a second and you don't eat up all of the fear, you could see that we're being herded. At the most basic premise level of this, it is a gigantic money transfer.

You could throw all of the medical nefarious stuff. You could throw everything else out the window the bottom line is they scared billions of people and then they got them to go in to take experimental injections and those were delivered by big pharma corporations who made a ton of money and then you got a bunch of human leech remora swimming around this these political tyrants who are getting not only money but political power and influence and control over people's lives and this is a chemical reaction of chaos and it's not i mean when you get when you read sort of lenin's biography these are the things that he advocated on behalf of you know the

what do you call them the uh the convenient uh the the i forget the name he had for people that were sort of convenient uh dupes for him but he he you know what is it the useless eaters is that useless the useless uh oh god he had a more poetic way of describing anyway but it'll come to me at some point but but so but you you sort of didn't answer my question and maybe that was on purpose but i'm going to ask it again. So you're moving along as somebody seeing this. A, you're getting more popular. You're getting more outspoken.

What is that experience like for you? Where did you come from? How did this happen to you? And then when do you come to this realization that would that you just described to us um so i the i've just been watching what's been going down the last what's been happening the last few years is is so out in front for everybody to see that if you were listening to i would i mean if you're listening to any of these people who were banned before this, then you've kind of been inoculated to kind of the mainstream media message. And there is a voracious appetite for people who are not towing that mainstream media line.

It's very easy to stay on these platforms and stay monetized if you just regurgitate what they want you what the seemingly establishment want you to say and not saying that it will cost you money but it will grow you an audience because people are just looking around and they're sitting there going well none of this makes any sense and so um i was just in the garage you know yelling about you know um one of the things that started all of this for me was 9-11. I was 20 when 9-11 happened and nothing with 9-11. I bought the

Talking Points hook, line, and sinker when I was 20. As I was getting older, I was sitting there going, none of this makes any sense to me. Then you go down some of these rabbit holes and a lot of what those people were saying 20 years ago, they're now acknowledging today.

And I'm sitting there going, okay, well, we're going through the same thing with COVID. This time, I'm not buying any of this. I'm just speaking out against it. And then people gravitate towards that message. And Rumble's been very, very helpful in that because they're, they don't. What was your job before a commentator?

I was an educator. Okay. Uh, and you know, as you, as you sort of, um, this is very different than what you're into now, right?

This is very different than being an educator. And have you found it difficult to absorb criticism? Do you ignore it? How do you maintain your, you know, your ability just to keep marching forward? forward and i'm asking that because i've noticed that people that are doing things like you're doing uh often are realizing that this is now an important thing and that this is now their lack of a better word job or calling and that this sort of freedom fighter is sort of what people are starting to think of themselves as something that they never ever at least in my lifetime people never worried about is is that what happened to you the the public education system was a was a gigantic awakening to me because it's a it's a

complete it's a complete lie it's it when you're inside of it you know they it's very much got a lot of these aspects that you see in these psychological things that play out like the the teachers are venerated and the teachers they're always shown to be they make movies or they used to at least in the 80s make movies about teachers and it was like oh look how great and benevolent these people are and to be honest with you in public education most teachers hate you so i mean they um they hate you um they're it's just there to show up for a job they don't even have to be good at their job it's you're it's all playing out for everybody see now the the reading writing and math levels for kids that were

graduating in high school or at like fifth or sixth grade and they go well we just need more money so i was sitting there in that system going boy this, this is a big mess in here. And all of these people inside this apparatus are absolutely convinced that they're the good guys. The parents are the bad guys. And the entire system is completely busted, corrupt, and broken. And it's just a big money sieve. And I'm sitting there going, I got to get out of here. So I left that, started my own tutoring business. And in between that, I was yelling about

this type of stuff just on a YouTube channel. And over time, it just kept ratcheting up more and more and more, and it was, it's turned into this. And what is the significance of salt and salty?

You know, it's real stupid, but I was reading Dune when I was working in between clients and starting the channel up. There's just that phrase, the spice must flow. My wife, she was like,

you're really bitter or angry about all of this. She's Mexican, so she's like, you're a salty cracker. And I was like, I'm still a cracker. See, I told you he's a cracker. I told him we could just call him Cracker. It came from his wife. It's cool if we do that. My wife is white. It came from his wife. It's cool if we do that. My racist wife.

And so maybe this is, I'm trying to, I'm an eternal, I have an optimistic bias, right? And so there's sort of two thoughts I have simultaneously. One is, and it's unfair of me to ask these both at the same time but one is is this a similar challenge to the gutenberg bible at uh at an accelerated pace you know because it is technology it's electronic it's it's like it's it's the speed at which this is being is challenging civilization is is heightened number one but my other comment is, isn't this sort of how markets work, even when it comes to governments, which is that they become bloated, they become inefficient, and people come in underneath that are scrappy and better. And I would even say now we have in

these parallel economies and parallel educational systems, there's even a new sort of a wrinkle to it that I never imagined, which is that the people coming in like the people they serve. They like their students, like their patients, like their customers. They don't disdain them and hate them the way all the other businesses and all the other educational systems in the world, in the country, seem to be. Am I on to anything with either of those? You're 100% spot on. Of course you are. You know this, Drew, even before you asked that question. Well, no, but I want your thoughts on it because I sit around and I think these things and

I'm my own echo chamber, right? And I read broadly and I try to understand it and I try to interact with people. I'm trying to get to the truth. And then I look at people commenting about things I say on Twitter and I feel like, oh, I'm an asshole. I don't know what I'm talking about.

So I'm always sort of probing. I'm trying to figure out what other people know that I don't know. No, you're 100% spot on. The world will always continue to move forward it will always continue to change and you will always have a subset of sociopaths trying to game the system and the the market will always cave those in over time because you're never going to stop uh there's a difference between the type of people who gravitate towards how the how

the the current world schisms so the the sociopaths drag us into one direction and they make it real easy for the for for weak people to succeed in those old rotten out husks of whatever sector they have co-opted they oh they do this with everything they'll destroy everything yeah and but let me let me but you're but you're you're suggesting you're you're painting the picture of an evolution uh my daughter her boyfriend gave us a book called end times that was called end times and it's about how elites you're describing elites really as you're describing at least the elites become these hollowed out husks eventually, self-serving husks, and how elites become ossified and stuck. And that things really do fall apart if those elites aren't sort of

moved along or taken down, however you want to see it. Is that what you're advocating? No, I'm not advocating. I'm advocating essentially kind of letting them fall in on themselves these people rot out whatever they take over they rot out and those will those will all collapse and the reason why they will collapse because people who are pioneers people who are industrious people who've got grit and people who like building stuff will always build better everything and so as these people take over these these the old legacy everything

they've taken over legacy print they've taken over legacy television they take over they'll take over legacy big tech they take over legacy stuff it gets universities. Perfect example. Perfect example. They, they, they take the names of old institutions with actual worth in them, destroy them by, by flooding them with the other cronies who will let them continue being criminals inside of them. And these things will all collapse. You're, you're watching this in real time with,

with whatever they, they do it with Disney. They do it with Marvel movie. They'll do it with Disney. They do it with Marvel movies. They'll do it with everything. And describe, you know, the questions I keep asking, like you said, Corolla got things right. And I got some notes. I mean, he got things mostly right.

But I'm always telling him that, okay, then, well, how long and how's this going to work and how's it going to go? So I'll ask you the same thing. How does it play out? Is there a timeframe for this? How do you see it going? It's fascinating. It's fascinating watching this play out because things are moving so rapidly and so quick, especially in this COVID realm, even though it seems like forever, especially for people who've been fighting against it or dealing with it for going on to four years now.

If you take a look at what they said they wanted to do at the beginning of this, they all were very happy and proud of what they wanted to do. You can listen to all of these people. They all backtrack now. But they wanted to put you on a subscription of these injections. They wanted you to wear a mask forever, and they wanted a digital passport. They wanted all of these things. All of those things have been destroyed.

We ain't doing any of this nonsense over here. We're not playing any of these games. So we've already won in that. By denying them what they wanted, we've already won. Those people will never denying them what they wanted, we've already won. Those people will never go away because, again, these people are monstrous individuals. They don't care about our health. They don't care about our prosperity.

They care about entangling us. They care about these are soul vampires, Dr. Drew. These people, they want control. They're megalomaniacs. They like when people areacs they they like when people are upset they like when people are frustrated and the the monetary aspects of this are paltry to these people these people are billionaires they don't care about money they want to they want to rule our lives they want to put the boot on our throats as long as we continue to resist

we will always win in that fashion but then you're starting to see on top of all of this especially with people like you who are talking to these individuals who've been silenced by these big tech platforms like dr michael yeadon yeah explaining yeah these how do you get all of these corporations to to utilize the spike aspect of this protein that's the most dangerous part of it to put into their vaccine that they're giving to these people and you know you're finding out everything that they they wanted to shut down before with the myocarditis, the pericarditis, the blood clots, the Guillain-Barre, the stroke,

everything. They're like, okay, well, it's just a little bit. It's just a little bit. They're talking about the fragmentation. There's parts of DNA, like simian virus or whatever. You explain it to me, Drew. There's stuff floating around. The plasmids. There's a lot going on. I agree. It keeps getting dismissed as so much nonsense.

But it's just slowly coming out that there's quite a bit to some of these things. And when I ask the questions, why the spike protein, the one part of the virus we know that is pathogenic, the one that's causing the problem, that's the protein we want to flood your body with. That to me is such an odd thing because they could have gone for the nucleocapsid protein. By the way, it's also the part of the virus that's shifting rapidly. Why would you choose that region of the virus unless you already knew that there could be something with a coronavirus. You had a vaccine underway and you just had to pull the trigger on the manufacturing and the final sort of gloss on it.

And to me, that's pretty clearly what happened. Why in the meantime, we haven't gone, hmm, maybe we could come up with something better in the meantime. Let's see about nucleocapsid or other ways of doing this. The fact that they haven't is so, so, so disturbing to me. But okay, so there's that. Number one. I have to take a little break here.

By the way, I didn't expect you to say that Colin Robinson was in charge of the country. That we have certain, do you know what we do in the shadows? Do you watch that show? He's an energy vampire. He's a soul vampire energy vampires but but i want i want to come back from this little break and i want to talk about i want

you to go at me about me vaccinating my elderly patients i think people want to see us get into that one um so feel free number one uh and then number two i want to talk a little bit about social media platforms and freedom. There's Colin Robinson. And freedoms, yes, he lived to 100, then he died, then he was reborn. But a little bit about social media, the protections they have and what we should be doing with those protections, or should we let it fly? I'm very, very curious on your position on how we have set up social media in the law and should we just leave it like that

and how we should protect it, whatever your thoughts are. Okay, so salty cracker. Again, let me give all the particulars where you can find them. It's the salty cracker on Rumble. It is at salty cracker on YouTube.

It is saltycracker9 on Twitter and saltmustflow.com. Don't confuse it with spice must flow. This is spice, salt must flow. And I will just remind you that in the eyes of his Mexican-American wife, he's a salty cracker. And that's how you shall remember him. All right, we'll take a break. Be right back after this.

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is with us, Salty Cracker. And people are sort of screaming on Rumble about re, what's re? What is that? That's just the sound of these lefties being upset about everything. Really, re! Oh, it's sort of like the,

it's sort of like the, what is the three blind mice or sorry? We, three little pigs. We, we, we, we all the way home.

This is your version of that. I'd say, okay, got it. Got it. Got it. So going over, let's start with the vaccine.

So they're definitely going to clip that too, Drew. Now that you've said re, they're going to clip it. It's going to be in the works. Re, re. I'm willing to see it. Re, re, re, re. I'm happy to be a part of the clan. This clan.

Not the clan. Another one. That's what somebody will clip. That's what somebody will clip. Oh, my God. That's the craziness of the present moment. You can't say anything without somebody saying you said something else, which is just absurd. But anyway, dog whistle, exactly. So I've had concerns about the vaccines, obviously,

and I'm trying to get to the truth about it. I have grave concerns about it for young males right now where this is now a cold and the benefits of the vaccines are essentially zero for them. And yet there is real risk. Not big. It's relatively uncommon, it seems. But these are really serious side effects. If you're a 28-year-old male and somebody, or let's say a 20-year-old male, and somebody says you have to take this to come to college, there are going to be some catastrophes.

And I say they should sue the hell out of those colleges that mandated them to take something that had no benefit to them or their community. But okay, separate issue. But I have elderly patients. And my patients died from COVID. It happened. And when they got COVID, they were really sick, and they were interested in vaccine therapy, wanted vaccine therapy, motivated to take vaccines, understood that these were relatively new,

but that the risk reward for somebody who's 85 with a problem missed as long as my arm, even though there are real risks, the risk reward falls very favorably on the side of taking the vaccine. What do you say to that? I don't know enough to comment on that. I was of the opinion in the middle of all of this that if i was if i was 70 something years old then yeah i would probably be more inclined to taking experimental injections but um yeah i i totally understand there's a there's a difference when you give out medical advice and when i give out medical advice and well, I mean,

you're not, you're not saying follow me. You're saying I'm, I'm questioning things, you know, and that's perfectly reasonable to question everything. That's your, you should do that.

I suggest everybody do that, but you're not saying follow me or take my advice. In fact, I suspect you're saying quite the opposite. Talk to your doctor. Oh yeah. Yeah. No,

I, I, whenever I talk about this vaccine, I don't want to get sued. So I've done everybody very clearly, very loudly. I don't know what I'm talking about. I, the way that I operate is I look at who's telling me to do something and what are they doing? This is all stuff that we used to learn during Saturday morning cartoons, just real basic, simple stuff. What is the person telling me to do? What are they actually doing? Are they living up to what they're talking about? Do they got a track record of success?

Do they got a track record of matching their actions to their words? All of these people, no, definitely not. And everything that they're saying turns out to be just the complete opposite of what they're actually doing. You've seen the Gavin Newsom.

It was forcing children to wear masks at daycare, but he's at the French laundry with a bunch of other idiots. Why would anybody listen to these people? And then I go, oh, it's because they're deathly afraid. I love my mom. I know she's going to listen to this later on. I'm sorry, mom. I'm going to say this, but you got a bunch of people who are watching CNN all day long and they are just eating up a death ticker on one side. You got a cough

ticker on the other side. You got a child on the bottom. Everybody's dead. And then in between these segments of these talking heads who are not living up to what they're talking about, they're selling these products to people. And I'm sitting there going, you are clearly, it's a money printing machine. These corporations, they don't have to test this stuff out. They don't have to go through the rigorous trials. They don't have to pay for any of this.

The government has already bought all of these shots up to like 2030. So this is a big scam as money concerned, quite obviously. Everything else, when it comes to the medical stuff i have no idea i'm not a doctor i have no idea what's going on i don't have a microscope or one of those things with the hearing things true i don't know one of those things uh so i'm certainly you do have an opinion, though, about platforms and whether they are publishers and how they should be perceived by the legal system. Tell me your thoughts.

Again, it's one of these situations that you run into. We already have a very clear, clear written out. There's a lot of lawyers who rubber stamped all this stuff. There is a clear legal process to all of this. The people who are doing all of this are not following the laws to begin with. So it doesn't matter if you have Section 230. It doesn't matter if you don't have Section 230. The federal government is not allowed to call up Facebook.

The federal government is not allowed to have a hotline to Twitter and say, ban Dr. Drew for questioning whether or not a piece of paper stops an airborne virus. They're not allowed to do it. This is precedent that has been set. The Supreme Court has already gone over it. They went over this in the 1800s. It's very, very clear. But these people that we're up against don't follow any rules. I mean, they bribe people with experimental injections for hot dogs. They don't follow any. They've got no morals. They don't follow any rules. It's up to, it's up to industrious individuals

to outperform these people in every aspect of our society. I love that idea. I think that is a great call to action for content creators and for people who are creating products for parallel economies who care about and love their customers. I think you're absolutely 100% correct. But back to Section 230. So they have violated it. What do we do?

Is it just let these things work through the courts now? Or is there action to be taken? Or is it just all on elon musk and by the way have you read the biography um no not read the biography um this is this is a uh it's a very complex situation that we're in um you're just going to i hate to say it because it's going to take time and it's going to take a lot of patience, but I think you're just going to have to

wait for other people. You're already seeing it. YouTube's got a 20-year head start on Rumble, but Rumble is getting bigger and bigger and bigger. We are streaming to far greater numbers on Rumble than I'm streaming on YouTube.

For whatever reason, there are competition. Competition is at play. And I'm not going to wait for billionaires to... I'm not going to wait for... I don't know what is going on with Elon Musk. I cannot read that dude. But I'm not going to... Read the biography read read the biography it's fantastic once i it oh my god it's

so fantastic i i i uh i i'm i'm fascinated with him now i i always had you know respect and admiration for him but now i'm i'm really preoccupied with him. And when you learn about how he functions, the go fuck yourself from the stage comments the other day, that's just business as usual for him. That's just a Tuesday. He really, he calls it like he sees it. He is intense at a level that I've never seen anybody function. And I always thought he was just a super genius that could master anything.

That's not it. That's not it. He is a certain kind of personality, and he suffers for it, and so do his relationships. And he has a relentlessness and a focus and a willingness to take risk and understands how to hire good people and fires relentlessly. I mean, when he got into, he talked about how when he got into Twitter and he just did what he always does. And I'm amazed that there weren't a thousand lawsuits because he just, he is a brutal employer and how he avoids suits, I don't know, but most people are bought into his thing. And even his dearest friends eventually get fired.

Almost nobody survives. And it's all in the name of doing something good for humanity. It's dealing with our oil problem. It's getting humanity access to interplanetary transportation, should we ever need it. It's mining stuff for maybe, I suspect he's next going to want to mine off an asteroid or something i just kind of see that coming and he just goes from business to business to business solving problems and doing it better than anybody ever uh and

certainly better than the government it's interesting bill bill gates comes to him at a certain point and goes hey man you should be doing philanthropy and musk goes right show me what you're doing he goes that's ridiculous i I could do 100 times more benefit for people creating businesses that not only create jobs and financially improves the situation for the country, but will do more for humanity running a business than these sleepy things you're doing. It's really interesting. I suggest you read it. I think you'd like it.

Yeah, that sounds good i'd love to have some insight into what's going on there because the the guy seems he seems too good to be true and so i just kind of i'm hesitant i'm hesitant to trust people he he has a he has a compass that is very literal a moral compass and a compass for helping humanity. That it doesn't include much empathy, right? Which is sort of a, some things, some personality get this. They have a very, very mathematical,

literal measured response to good and bad, morality, those sorts of things. And he's definitely one of those. I don't know, the biography didn't talk about much about his moral compass, but in terms of what he sees as good for people, he knows how to do it. And he does it his way.

He is right. He's just right. And for that, he should be applauded. And anyone who thinks this is someone to be disdained, now I question you. Sometimes there's certain things, people, that if you're not on board with at least what they're doing or what they're trying to do, then you're the problem, not him. And I don't understand, maybe you could talk to me about

this a little bit. I guess I'm a free speech literalist, and I don't understand how anyone who understands anything about the founding principles don't understand how anyone who understands anything about the founding principles of this country, anyone who has studied the French revolution or pre-revolutionary, early 20th century Russia, or any other revolutionary time, talk about Germany if you want, I don't understand how anyone who studies these things can want there to be real significant limitation on speech. How do you understand that? I think the people that are going in a direction where they want more and more freedom restricted are people who don't utilize those freedoms to begin with. So it's no loss to them.

And so we've got a crisis of weakness in our society. And the way that our society is set up, not only does it give you attention for your perceived crisis that you're going through, but it punishes you if you try to utilize any of these real basic principles that create all this prosperity, like freedom of speech. And so these people who are fine with getting rid of freedom of speech, they're not using freedom of speech to begin with. So there's no big loss to these people. They're just going to regurgitate whatever they're told they're allowed to say. And you're watching these. This is why that NPC meme, the NPC meme was perfect because it perfectly explains these people's behavior in a real simple way.

They are programmed, and they are programmed to say, you're allowed to talk about this, this, this. All these people loved Elon Musk last year, right? Before Elon Musk was buying Twitter, all of these people, they wanted Teslas. They had Tesla stickers. These people loved Elon Musk was buying Twitter. All of these people, they wanted Teslas, they had Tesla stickers. These people loved Elon Musk. Now, a switch gets turned, the machine says, no, not only are you not allowed to fight that dude, if you

don't come out and tell everybody how much you hate him, then you'll be attacked. So then you watch these people, and it's predominantly done in these Democrat-run hellholes or these college institutions where a virus, a mind virus goes through the system that says okay this guy's the meme it's not bad yeah somebody flashed up the meme yeah there's the meme being flashed up and they're programmed these people are programmed by music they're programmed by streaming services they're programmed by big tech they're programmed by their professors do they say re they do oh yeah you if you just the npcs do okay good yeah so the first time i heard the npc

uh what should we call it analogy or meme as you call it was uh Scott Adams brought that up. Do you know Scott? I love Scott Adams, but he has banned me on Twitter, Drew. I was mean to him. Oh, you were mean to him? What did you say? I don't even remember. What did you say, dude?

Drew was not nice. I think I had something to do. Probably when he said that about the African-American thing, I probably got in. It was the vaccine because he was all over. He was still telling people that you're an idiot. Oh, I know what it was.

He was saying you're an idiot. If you didn't get the vaccine or if you were concerned about it, you just guessed, you accidentally guessed correctly or something like this. And I was like like this wasn't hard to do i'm an idiot and i figured this out and i'll see if i can get him to to bring you back around perhaps uh but but the npc idea is just sort of it's kind of a great analogy for me the idea that you're saying that people are idea they that people are either pre-programmed in terms of what their beliefs and ideas are, or they're so much attuned to the mob that they automatically, without even understanding it,

go with the certain aspects of the mob action, at least the most risky way to deal with the mob. Because the mob will embrace you immediately. And that's how mobs work. It feels good to be a part of a mob. Think about what it feels like to sit in a football stadium and to be part of the audience and the cheering. Humans need that. They like it.

It feels reassuring. And when it's a mob that can turn on you very easily, I understand why people are very reluctant to go against it. But boy, there has maybe never been a more important time in history when we need to do so and when we can do so. There were times when you really couldn't do so because the mob had captured essentially a police and or military authority and were actually violent. Now they just carry out violence as best they can, but they don't actually carry out violence, though they could get there very, very easily. Well, they did it with the riots. I mean,

they burned down $2 billion worth of businesses in one summer they killed dozens of black people during black life matter rallies i mean these people are very dangerous and and they're only dangerous in the sense that the machine utilizes them and lets them be dangerous yeah the machine utilizes them that's a really interesting thing i've always felt that's what the machine uh was doing with homelessness homelessness. They're letting people with mental illness deteriorate on the streets. Only country I'm aware of in the world that does not take care of sick people. Running open-air hospitals without doctors and nurses

run by social workers. You aren't trained to even evaluate the medical aspect of what's going on, let alone treat it. So we have hospitals, open-air hospitals run by social workers, no doctors, no nurses allowed. And you're starting to see it again. The rhetoric is, oh, it's because of capitalism. It's because of income inequality, which has very little to do with what's on the streets, particularly of Los Angeles and California. They have turned it into a money-making racket.

We have never dumped more money into homelessness in California, and we've never had more homelessness in California. I doubt that that is an accident. It just seems that they're intertwined. And I'm empathetic to this. My, my brother is a drug addict. And so he's never going to get any help. He's never going to go see anybody because he doesn't need to see anybody.

He can do his entire life. He can be a drug addict, um, because California makes it so easy for him to be a drug addict. It enables him. Mm. Mm. Mm.

Mm. It absolutely does. Uh, and as such, it people the part that they all miss that defend that that he's leading his best life doing whatever he wants to do who are you to say is that this is first of all it causes anosognosia so it prevents prevents insight into what's happening number one uh and And number two, these are progressive illnesses that end in death. And that's the part that people miss. It ends in death. And people cannot get that through their head, that you're allowing people to die of a treatable condition, a brain disorder that blocks their ability to see what is happening. We call that anosognosia. You more commonly perhaps call it denial.

Hey, I want to ask another question about freedom, which is, I guess it was yesterday, a day before we had Alex Jones back on Twitter, being part of a Twitter spaces. To me, Alex Jones is a kind of a great challenge to the idea of free speech absolutism. What are your thoughts on him coming back to Twitter? I see it as a gigantic signal that things have changed. Things have shifted and there seems to be a turning point in the ratcheting down of information. You're starting to see the fact that these people who were once banned or people who are constantly getting... I mean, a strike is essentially a limiting of your ability to reach people.

They're muzzling people and people that that pushed pushed the envelope got muzzled and banned real hard years ago they've been banned for years he's been unpersoned walking the digital wastelands for years he's banned from everything and now he's back uh andrew tate is back you're watching a number of people being reinstated on this platform and again under the moral compass of well just don't break a law like don't like that's very simple that's that's unambiguous it's it's not that can't be uh messed with in the way that it's messed with on youtube youtube doesn't have a terms of service they've got a they've got an entire dictionary of guidelines and they'll enforce them however they want to enforce them however they perceive that they want to that's right that's right there's no there's no rhyme or reason to any of those it's we they have an agenda

and they will utilize their spaghetti definitions of terms of service in order to restrict whoever they don't want to have a platform well they're losing that ability you're even seeing it on places like youtube where now they'll they'll give you a um a crash if you get a strike or something you can get a crash course in the strike and then you can get the strike removed over time, which you weren't able to do. And so they're not doing

that because they're a benevolent company. They hate us. They're restricting all the people who've been correct over the last three years. Yeah, that's the craziness. To me, that's the crazy part it couldn't be it couldn't possibly be on accident and so they're losing their ability alex jones being back on twitter is a gigantic victory for for free speech and and access to information listen the guy the guy

as a person who is bombastic and hyperbolic i I get it. But the dude's right a lot. And even if he's not right a lot, you need to let people speak so people understand. Yeah, I agree with you. I am not a fan of Andrew Tate. I'm not a fan of Alex Jones. And I would defend their right categorically to go out there and do their thing. And if they say horrible shit that causes consequences, that's on them. So the Sandy Hook people took action. And for some of the things he said, fine, I agree or disagree. It's the fact that he was able to have free speech that resulted

in him being called out for what he was talking about. I do, there's a part of Alex Jones that got my attention yesterday. Joe Rogan was talking about him. And he said, you know, when the guy has said crazy things, he is an alcoholic addict with bipolar disorder. And he was in altered states, according to Joe, when he made some of his more outlandish sort of pronouncements. As somebody that's worked in mental

health i don't want people to be held accountable for the rest of their lives for saying crazy shit when their brain isn't working right that's exactly where i thought as a liberal that we were empathic and understanding about uh you know people get sick and say things that want to want to apologize or say something different. And yet, no, no, no. Condemned forever. Must be condemned forever. Interesting.

Yeah. For all these people that are upset about these individuals that they don't like having an ability to speak and reach people, you should be more concerned about other people's ability to restrict people, especially after what we've just where you have, you have a whole, there were two doctors, I think in Santa Monica. I mean, they were treating people with COVID early. I mean, they had empirical data. I mean, they were seeing people and they were, they, they did a press conference and they were immediately silenced. And I was sitting there going, yeah, but the people silencing them aren't doctors. The people silencing them aren't treating anybody. The people that silenced them have no idea. They're working with paper and data and spreadsheets. These doctors are doing-

Well, not only that, not only that, there's a deeper problem here, which is that I would go to the mat to defend doctors' right to do what they think is on the best interest of their patient, particularly when they are doing no harm. A good doctor will do no harm at the head of their priorities. And drugs like ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, I knew they were inert, benign. I'd used them a million times. Hydroxychloroquine is one of the only drugs I'm aware of

that is, by the American College of Physicians, advocated as a medication to be continued during pregnancy. It's so benign, it's so inert. And so these people who just learned how to pronounce the medication the next day have a profound opinion about it. That is disgusting. And they're interfering with doctors doing what

they think is best on behalf of their patient. I, by the way, I don't really think they're very useful. I don't think that they did very much. I'm not super impressed, but I would go to the mat to defend doctors' ability to do that if that's what they want to do on behalf of their patients. And maybe they are doing something or maybe they're not, or maybe they're just following somebody and caring carefully and watching them carefully. And that's sufficient to have an impact on the course of illness.

That's nobody's business. Oh, look what Caleb has to put up. You see what Caleb has to put up here because I said these words. He has to put up this. He said these words. You said the word. He has to put up this. You said the word. The I word. Yeah.

So, again, I thought we were done with that now. And I am saying I don't use them. I don't use them as treatment. I don't see any good evidence that they're useful. I know people that do use it. I would defend their right to use it categorically to the mat. But anyway, this interfering with the go ahead go ahead um so please shine some light on this i'm afraid to even ask there was a line of thinking that was saying one possible reason why you could have seen a benefit from people taking ivermectin was because we have a

we have so many people with with worms in in our society no no no no way no no way i don't know that the worm internationally we have worms everywhere but it's very unusual here we used to see it a lot at our county hospital people forget there have been been big waves of immigration up from Central America over the last 40 years. I was working in a county system during the El Salvadorian Civil War and a lot of worms came up from there, but they were not Americans. They were not on this soil. They were quickly taken care of. But I want to send you an article on ivermectin. I'll get a contact later that was written in 2017 that goes for 17 pages on extolling the virtues and the potential uses and how important this has been for the history of medicine, that molecule. And well before COVID was something

anyone had ever heard of. So again, the fact that anybody outside of medicine had an opinion about what should or shouldn't be done with those molecules is absurd, disgusting. They should apologize for having an opinion. It's just unconscionable to me. Now, we're kind of coming up against the clock here. You have two figures behind you. I don't know if it's a green screen or what, but you have Abraham Lincoln and George Washington

that we see behind you. And I'm guessing that, well, I'm just curious. I've been fascinated with Abraham Lincoln forever. And his thinking has helped me through a lot of times like this. He had a clarity of thought that was sort of extraordinary. By the way,

a terribly unpopular president. Again, it's so strange how history remembers these things. He was more hated than almost any president ever, so much so that they killed him. He was that hated. And when he managed to win a few battles,

thanks to his successor, the popularity increased. And he was ultimately, when he was martyred, seen as somebody who saved the country and whatnot. but not during his life was he seen that way particularly uh what are your thoughts on abraham lincoln and his pertinence to our present time you know um when you're trying to get through everyday life today and you're trying to not get jabbed or trying to not get run over by antifa lunatics and stuff like this it think things look really bad right now things look

awful this country looks like it's never been in worse shape and then you look at the dude behind me and you go what the hell did he go through i mean holy balls i mean i couldn't imagine a a more destructive time for this country. Obviously, I mean, it's the Civil War. And so there's a little bit of an anchor with him behind me in the sense that it helps me get through all the stupid shit that we're going through today, knowing that it's been bad in this country. It's been worse in this country in the past, and we've overcome it. And with the grace of God god we can do it again i i would suggest that people do visit the words of these visit some of the the you know go read the cooper union address for instance uh and the clarity of thought and lincoln's mind and then some of the aphorisms that uh george washington put out about things like free speech.

These things have eternal pertinence. These are not historically relevant documents from the time. These are universal ideas that have continued to be extremely important to human beings. And I would say never more so than the present moment. Have you ever read the Cooper reunion speech? It's such a clear, such a great, oh, it's such a great document. And he essentially takes the rhetoric of Stephen A. Douglas in a Harper's Weekly interview and goes,

I'm gonna take that as the context for my conversation. He is absolutely correct that the founding fathers knew better than we what to do with territories and what to do with slavery. And he just evolved it from there. And he had a clarity of thought on what is right and what is wrong. He had two things that I think that I look to now as sort of beacons for the present moment. He understood the union and the importance of the union and what the contract was amongst the equals of states to form a more

perfect union. People forget. They think somehow the federal government is our government. Your state is your government, your city, your county are your governments. The federal government was there for some defense, for some interstate commerce, a little more than that, you know, and ultimately to form a union amongst the equals of the state. And when you're in this kind of a union, you can't unilaterally step out of a contract. That's why he never acknowledged the Confederate states. He called them the Confederate states so-called, because you can't have Confederate states. They were just insurrection out of alignment with the union as specified in the contract of the constitution. So he had clarity about the union and he had clarity about what is right and what is wrong, but it took him a while to get to some of his conclusions. It took him a while to get to understand that slavery was

a wrong. He was not there to begin with. And I'm guessing there are things in our current culture and our current system that causes us to not see with great clarity things that are wrong, or we have to get to them. We can be incorrect as we move towards our conclusion about what is right and what is wrong. It was one of the appealing things about Ronald Reagan. He talked about principles and right and wrong. He talked about that. That's why he was able to go toe-to-toe with Russia.

They were wrong and he saw the wrong in that system. And I think we need to get back to some of that thinking again do you agree with me and how would you how would you suggest people do so well i i suggest we do so by removing your kids from these college institutions because they are doing the opposite of everything that you just talked about i mean they're teaching they're teaching i was gonna say kids but these are these are grown adults in these institutions they uh they're dumbing them down and all of these people think that all of your rights uh they they come from washington dc and dc is supposed to be in charge of everything and

bureaucrats at desks are supposed to be the ones telling you what you're allowed they're the enemy they're the enemy they're the in bureaucracy bureaucracy is the enemy yeah and and i just saw go ahead i was just gonna say there's a reason why all of these these institutions are And bureaucracy is the enemy. Yeah. And I just saw... Go ahead. I was just going to say, there's a reason why all of these institutions are pumping out all of these grown adults who they don't know anything.

These kids, they're using plagiarism and AI to write their thesis or their master's. These people who are exiting these systems, they only know about their genitalia. They don't know anything about the foundational principles of this place or how it works. Right, right. And yes, it was all a bunch of old white men a long time ago, but the things they got to, it's really like saying the Bible is just an old document that has no relevance. It's accumulated wisdom.

It's accumulated wisdom. And whether you believe it's inspired divinely or whatever, there's a reason these things stick around. There is wisdom in history. There is wisdom in great ideas and they have been brought forward for us and we ignore them at our peril. I do think we have to, I don't know, get back to basics.

I'm not sure, but I'm reading the Rumble rants right now. What does Dr. Drews take on the Second Amendment? I'm sort of a Bill of Rights literalist, I suppose. So I'm guessing I have, you know, just as it's written. I don't think there's not much, you know, there for me to talk about. Let's see what else people are saying. A lot of people are put, yeah, yeah. Let me see if there's anything for you in this. There are a lot of re's being,

screaming by. I'm an old white guy. I'll be killed too. Okay, there we go. So they're going, they're going to go after and kill. You're a cuck too. Did you know that?

A C word? Is that what you said? No, a cuck. A cuck. Or I'm cocked by, a cuck holded by you. Is that what that is? It's going by very quickly.

They're calling us names. That's fine. Good job, Salty. I'm just seeing if there's any questions coming up. That's how they show their love, by calling you names. Drew has no clue. Oh man, there's some really weird trolls there. What is

Mohap? M-O-H-A-P. What does that mean? Anybody? There's a lot of that going by. Oh, yeah. You shouldn't have said that. It has to do with Michelle Obama. Oh, why? What is that? It has to do with a Joan Rivers statement about Michelle Obama. All right.

I have no opinion. I'm going to look back through the restreams. Give me a second here guys he's taking it out I guess right now judging

we're getting more money than usual thank you for coming on the show judging someone from the 1800s I can't read that We're getting more money than usual. Thank you for coming on the show. Judging someone from the 1800s by 20, I know, I can't read that. Not a lot of, no questions on the streams and on the, there's a lot of just ranting going on, but a lot of love for the salty cracker, which is great.

So what is ahead for you, sir? You've been very kind with your time. You've been very kind to me. I, you know I again my job is to try to ascend to the truth that's all I'm trying to do is try to get at it by talking to as many people as possible

getting as many ideas as possible all are welcome and I'm sure you know I end up thinking about things people say on this show for a long time after the show's concluded. That's when I start disagreeing, rethinking, wondering if things were, you know, people always accusing me of not being tough enough on this or that person. But I'm just interested in hearing what their opinions are and then thinking about it for a while.

What's ahead for you? Another, I'm just going to keep plugging away. Plugging away and fighting the good fight. Back to his garage. Back to the garage. Back to the garage. Are you in the garage right

now or have you moved out of the garage? My wife finally let me move out of the garage? My wife finally let me move out of the garage. Good. Since she's the one that called you the salty cracker, what does she think of your present employee?

She just loves that I'm not yelling like this at the dinner table anymore. I'm usually tapped out by the dinners served. This is a great outlet and she doesn't have to put up. She used to just put her head down and go, oh my God, he's going to rant in between chicken. All right, well, continue your rants.

People do love them. And we appreciate you being here. Let me give the particulars one more time. It's at saltmustflow.com, saltedcracker9 on Twitter, at saltedcracker on YouTube,, at saltedcracker on YouTube, and the saltedcracker on Rumble. And I told Scott Adams to follow,

to unblock you. So I texted him while you were, he goes, who is this guy? And I go, I don't know. He was mean to you, but he wants you to unblock him. So I put in a good word for you. He said he loves Scott Adams.

That's what's got a lot. I said that. I told him that too. Let me see if Scott came onto the Twitter spaces. Maybe he did to hear it. You can give him a message personally. No, he's not here. Okay.

Well, we appreciate you being here. And have you, do you do, I mean, do you just, in other words, do you, how do you get your topics? Let's put it that way. I just read the news constantly throughout the day. Just what's coming in the news. Okay. So we'll look forward to whatever's in the news.

Thank you, Rumble. Thank you, Salty Cracker. Thank you, Salty Followers, Salty Army. Salty Army. And tomorrow we have- They're good tippers uh senator uh rand paul coming in here which should be interesting because he's a physician and i sort of want to talk to him as a peer get his thoughts on on so much we've been through uh mary bowden also up

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