Ask Dr. Drew - Salty Cracker: mRNA Cancer Vaccine, Fauci Advisor Pleads Guilty & Lindsay Clancy’s $1,000,000 GoFundMe – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 658

Episode Date: August 21, 2026

Moderna stock surged over 160% after their personalized mRNA cancer vaccine intismeran, combined with Merck’s Keytruda, reported a successful trial for melanoma. But after the COVID-19 vaccine debacle, can mRNA technology be trusted? Salty Cracker joins Dr. Drew LIVE to discuss the new mRNA cancer treatment, ex Dr. Fauci adviser David Morens pleading guilty to conspiracy, the now-over-$900k GoFundMe for accused murderer Lindsay Clancy (allegedly benefiting her parents), and Roysha / Royce White’s WNBA draft bid. Salty Cracker is an uncensored clown world commentator known for breaking the Left with satire, shame, and ridicule. He is active on Rumble as TheSaltyCracker. Follow at https://x.com/saltycracker9 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 • BIOPRO - BioPro+® is a natural formula of growth factors and peptides that support how you look, feel & perform. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/biopro⁠⁠⁠ • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/fatty15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/paleovalley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twc.health/drew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • CHAPTER - For free and unbiased Medicare help, dial [phone] to speak with my trusted partner, Chapter, or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://askchapter.org/drdrew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Chapter and its affiliates are not connected with or endorsed by any government entity or the federal Medicare program. Chapter Advisory, LLC represents Medicare Advantage HMO, PPO, and PFFS organizations and stand alone prescription drug plans that have a Medicare contract. Enrollment depends on the plan’s contract renewal. While we have a database of every Medicare plan nationwide and can help you to search among all plans, we have contracts with many but not all plans. As a result, we do not offer every plan available in your area. Currently we represent 50 organizations which offer 18,160 products nationwide. We search and recommend all plans, even those we don’t directly offer. You can contact a licensed Chapter agent to find out the number of products available in your specific area. Please contact Medicare.gov, 1-800-Medicare, or your local State Health Insurance Program (SHIP) to get information on all of your options. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Executive Producers • Kaleb Nation - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • Susan Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/firstladyoflove⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Content Producer • Emily Barsh - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/emilytvproducer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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He'll be hearing, well, we'll be hearing his uncensored opinions on some of the biggest stories of the week. One of which was Royusha. We will, Roycia. I don't want a dead name, nor do I want to get the new name incorrect for Paymey. But I do want to share the video in the interview that we had. I always have to check myself to make sure I'm not using inappropriate pronouns with Roycia. We would also discuss the upsurge in Moderna stock after announcing a good trial for MRA vaccine for cancer treatments. And also David Morens on one of Fauci's senior advisors at NIAID, pled guilty of conspiracy for hiding COVID records.

And it's all there for everyone to see. It's not something that you can deny. This guy wrote an email that he had learned how to quote, make emails disappear and how to do things that don't detect aren't detected by FOIA. All right. And I will also talk about Lindsay Clancy, this terrible case and they go fund me around that, which I'm hearing is up towards $2 million possibly. And there's disturbing comments going on on both sides.

But I kind of feel like I want to open with Roy, Roycia. Keep saying Royisha. It's actually Roycia, if I get it right. And I would love to hear the clown world salty crackers. take on my friend Roycia after this. Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre. The psychopaths start this, he was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction. Fentanyl and heroin, ridiculous.

I'm a doctor for a second. Where the hell you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals. Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Love Line all the time. educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat.

You have trouble, you can't stop and you want to help stop it. I can help. I got a lot to say. I got a lot more to say. Salted Cracker, the uncensored clown world commentator. It's sort of never been more kind of descriptive of the world we live in. He breaks down so many of the clown world views with satire, little mockery, which has become the order of the day, active on Rumble as the Salt.

Salty Cracker and on YouTube is, you can follow him also the Salty Cracker on YouTube, Rumble, the Salty Cracker, and on X Salty Cracker 9. Salty, welcome back. Yeah, thank you for having me back, that intro piece with Royeisha. I got to be careful. I don't want to upset a black France woman of color. Royisha. That's fantastic. Black will suffice. Black will suffice.

So, so, but you can add the Bipak in there because there's something else going on. I guess, I guess Payme is sort of a day. But not everyone got to see that video. So I kind of want to air parts of it for you here and get your comments on it, okay? Do you mind if we start with that? Please. Yeah, no, I'm excited. I mean, if there was ever a sort of response to the clown world,

I think Roysha is an ambassador for addressing the clown world. So let's do the first minute, Caleb, if you don't mind. Here we go. You NBA, how shall I address you? Well, I'm sometimes identifying as a black trans lesbian. You can call me Royce. That's my new name. You've dead named me.

But it's okay. We go way back. I'm sorry. So, you know, the people who I know have a good relationship with, I give them some grace on my new name. And my pronouns are paid. Yeah. Yeah.

No, my pronouns are pay me. I'm wondering if you were being received kindly by the WNBA hierarchy. Well, not so far. I mean, they've almost completely denied my trans existence. And I think that's tantamount to genocide. It's hateful. It's harmful to my fellow trans. That's a good taste.

I've got some things to say about that. I'll tell you where my head was at as we were doing it, but give me your take. Every aspect of that is perfect, especially the appropriation of a white chick's hair by a black WNBA superstar to be. That's just absolutely perfect and clownery. All jokes aside, he is using all of the key fundamental Marxist terminology. Like this isn't some sort of drive-by thing that he's doing. that's going to come off really bad. It's...

I know what you mean. It's well-thought-out. The guy is a... The guy's a freaking genius. The Payme is a freaking genius. And it's carefully, carefully... And he...

Payme does not let up. No, no. He's got... He's got the pronoun terminology, the any type of dissent against what I'm doing is tantamount to genocide. He's got them dead to rights with their own rhetoric

and their own terminology that shows that he's highly intelligent in this area that's going on. And if I was the WNBA, I'd be highly concerned. Like, this isn't some guy just who saw a funny thing on X and was like, well, I'm just going to go out there and do this. He understands what you idiots are doing and how you're going to have to live up to all this virtue signaling that you're doing with all of these gangly lesbians in the WNBA. and this is going to be fantastic. I can't wait to buy my first they-them jersey, Dr. Drew. I'm stoked. Pay me.

Pay me. Yeah, pay me of Jersey. So, Royce, just as you know, before Royce transitioned, before Royce, it's really challenging to stay in the zone here. Royce ran for U.S. Senate. And I spoke to him back when he was running.

And he ran a great campaign. This is not a, you're not just a monster out on the floor. And if you've seen footage of him, the guy is a, the guy is a, I mean, he's an NBA star. You know, let's look. And the WNBA has got a really interesting challenge here. And he applied this morning. His application went in this morning. Was co-signed by his attorney.

And this is why I wonder if you think this was a good idea. his attorney, Matt Gates. His attorney, Matt Gates. No, I didn't catch that. I saw that he put in for the WNBA draft, and they had to hold an emergency meeting with their commissioner. Look it up.

Look it up for me. Yeah, Caleb's got to look it up for me. But keep going, the commissioner. Yeah. And so he was like, listen, your WNBA bylaws state that you just have to be a woman and what is concerned to you guys to be a woman is anybody that just feels like they're a woman. And so he's got them by their own bylaws in their documentation. And so if they don't let him in, they'll be in a really weird place,

all the virtue of singling. And I think we're at day seven now where they haven't quite figured out what to do. They keep holding meetings at the WNBA lesbian headquarters. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Put that back up again. First of all, they dead named Roycia. But there is the announcement. That's a hate crime. Yeah, with that, that's fantastic. This is well put together. This is the type of...

This is what you have to do. And people are like, oh, it's fine. No, this isn't something to just turn a blind eye to. This is highly effective in the world of clownery. These Marxist lefty lunatics from these PhD universities where they're manufacturing these people, they're all horribly afraid of shame, which is why they're easily manipulated and move. You can mess them around with their malleable idiot brains because they're so afraid of being called these terms that they use to denigrate other people.

And so when you use mockery and shame in that direction, It's incredibly effective. Well, it seems like mockery is the, it's the persuasion of last resort because you can't have logical discourse. You can't have direct discourse because you get silenced, right? If you try to have a conversation, you're hateful, your genocide, that's you, you have, they shut you down. Mockery, they've got it. And mockery, particularly that lands, that lands in truth. that is that is why this is working and he's he's taking it to them excuse me i don't know whether i should

have to use pay me all the time or it's pay and me i i don't know me has to take it to the mat and pay me is doing exactly that yeah that's why i think that this this guy is a good person to be Pay is a fantastic they, they, them to be leading the charge because that, the way that he was speaking, using their own term shows that he's got an ability to fight them. Oh, I'm going to get. You don't commit genocide here. Yeah, you're going to get in trouble. So, so I want to tell you how I, I didn't know Roycia was coming on the show. and I was in the middle of a very heated conversation about some medical stuff, and Roysha dropped in, and I felt like I was in the middle of an SNL skid from 2005.

And you know what I actually felt like? I felt like Carl Reiner talking to Mel Brooks as the 2000-year-old man in 1957. You know what I mean? Have you ever seen that? No, no. It's a very timely reference, of course. But if you see the Mel Brooks documentary that's out, you can see that whole story. That's what pulled Mel Brooks out of real trouble financially.

It became this famous record, this album. And Mel Brooks was just the 2,000-year-old man. He stayed in character. And so Carl Reiner was just the interviewer, right? And he just stayed straight. And I remember Lauren Michaels always saying, don't break, don't break. and in fact, Royce says some pretty incredible things.

Caleb, I feel like you cut the really crazy, not crazy, the really challenging material out. Is that, am I watching that, correct me in the video? Some of it. So the whole interview is about 15 minutes.

So this is only like a three minute clip for the intro of the show. So if they want to watch the whole thing, it's Dr. Drew.com slash Royish or Roysha. Either one works. You can watch the whole interview. Royce. Royce.

R-O-Y-S-H-A. Well, you do, he, he started talking. Made the link pay me. He started talking about his genitalia. And I barely kept it together during that. When at birth, how he came out at birth. So you have to listen to it.

It's pretty funny. Do you have that part, Caleb? I don't know. That part stuck with me because I laughed at my house on. I know. Susan would bring it up publicly. It made me very uncomfortable. I know he didn't like it.

I loved it. That's one of the parts that I can. cut out for this three minute clip because we probably would have gotten kicked off of YouTube if that part was in the first minute of the show. Okay, okay, okay, all right, okay. Essentially, he's saying that he was, I can't do it.

So, but let me just say that... Can I do it? No, because we'll get kicked off. Send people to watch it. So the other thing, yeah, go watch it on your own time. Not right now when I'm talking to Salty Cracker. Also, also Salty needs to end. understand. We had 1.6 million views on meta and that's never happened before. So,

so. Wow. So, yeah. So, um, so, um, but, but I want to tell you something else about a question I asked him in that one minute clip we watched, we looked at, which was just that morning I had seen, um, Cunningham. What's her first name? Lindsay Cunningham? No, is that her name? Sophie Cunningham. I've said Lindsay Cunningham today because we got to talk about Lindsay Clancy. Lindsay Cunningham. Yeah. Lindsay Cunningham.

I saw her coach screaming at the press. I stand behind my players because she'd gone back into the room and essentially trashed Sophie Cunningham after she got clotheslined. If you could find that video of her getting clotheslined, Caleb, it's pretty dramatic.

And she goes back to the president, screaming at them, how dare you? I am stand up for my, I stand up for all my players. I go to the map for them. And you know what? kindness and love and kindness is going to win. This is we are a kind organization. We are kindness. So fuck all you all.

And she storms out. And I'm like, kindness. There it is. Kindness. So, and I thought, and that's what I was thinking when I asked him about the kindness

with which they had received him. And they're not being so kind to him, turns out. Yeah, only horrible monsters who are the world's biggest pieces of shit need to hide under so many layers of love. Love Dr. Drew. What'd you call it of what?

Of re. Re. Yeah, it's all, it's all the rainbow nonsense, all of the hand emoji, stupid shit. All the nice people I know are, they don't need to go out there. Self-flagellate how nice they are.

There's nice people. Well, you know, there's a, yeah, there's a bunch of, you'll start to see some of this commentary out there in the sort of political philosophy zone about, you know, intolerance in the name of tolerance and how these, these, these structures were put in place. And it really all started back with the Frankfurt School in like the 1920s.

Are you familiar with this? Yeah, very familiar. Tell, did you teach your students about this? Getting hurt now, trying to. No, no, this is all stuff that is going to show us the. Okay, hold on. He's going to show us the close line right now. Let's do it as B-roll.

Okay, just do it as B-roll alongside of us. We don't need to hear it. But tell us about the Frankfurt School. And then cutting him. We're getting a lot of audio in here. Yeah. I don't know if that's going out. Yeah, the, just, you've got an infiltration of German Marxists

into the university systems of this country to subvert and sabotage. our politics, our culture, with this Marxist, Leninist, Gobly Gook, which has the results now where you've got these women, you got a women's league, sports league, who can't acknowledge the fact that clearly a woman is a biological female,

and now you've got dudes taking advantage of that, and you got Rieisha, pay me exploiting how dumb all the fundamental talking points of the entire WA institution isn't it all stems from that Frankfurt school of ideology

yeah the Frankfurt was critical theory it's where that came from it also was there is no truth which is what we are suffering under right now and guys like Derrida and Shoseur and just really just shitty philosophers that shown to have no utility

at the French laugh at us for paying any attention to them. They're from a hundred years ago. We're worrying about these people or some of them 75 years ago. The French dismissed them nearly a century ago. Or whatever, 75 years ago, maybe I get my time frames off. But the point is we're spending time with these people. They're just a waste, waste, waste of intellectual time and energy.

And it has had the net effect of not making things better. Look at that clothesline. Do you see that? You see that salty? Oh yeah. Here it is. To be fair, Dr. Drew, the, it's, it's, it's, it's worthless ideology and its soulless philosophy to sane people. It's a highly effective weapon for ripping up a society from within and most people not noticing or too afraid to say anything, lest they be shamed. by the communists. All right. Hold, hold right there. I'm going to take a little break.

And then I want you to dig in deeper with that. And just a quick question. When you say re, I think of like cartoon pigs. Is that where it came from? Yeah, yeah. It's the, it's, well, no, it comes from these fat liberal chicks with Kool-Aid in their hair screaming who sound like cartoon pigs. No, no. But it's, but I specifically envisioned a cartoon pig. I thought, oh, that's where he got that. I understand you're applying it to certain people. But the cartoon pig came to mind immediately. All right.

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Salty Cracker is here. Salty, do you want people to go to the Salty Cracker on YouTube and Rumble and Salty Cracker 9 on X? Anywhere else? No, that'll do. That sounds good. All right. And somebody said for you to show me, hold on, I'm going to find this on the re-stream. It had something to do with the re-business.

Something about the woods, crying in the woods or something? You know what that means? Oh, so it just ties into the Lindsay Clancy stuff. I mean, it ties into the intersectional Marxism of liberal arts degrees. But it's these, this screen therapy? Oh, I know what it is. You've had to have heard of it. I saw it.

I saw it. No sign. Yeah. I saw it. I don't need to see that again. I'm going to apologize for my gender right now. Well, not only that. Here's the thing that really bothers me by some of this stuff.

I saw some stuff today. Instagram dumped a bunch of this stuff on me today, strangely. And I was thinking to myself, do you know, evocative therapies are not thought to be helped for those, Lindsay Clancy. We're going to get that in a second. But doing these therapies where you express yourself tends to make problems worse. Our current situation is we need to learn to regulate our emotions, not unleash them on people. That's the opposite of mental health.

But let's talk about Lindsay Clancy. Horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible. Your thoughts. Yeah, I think obviously, I'll throw the alleged out there because I don't know. allegedly her murdering her three kids, yes, that is a very, there's no more horrible crime than somebody murdering kids. And what we're watching right now play out is you're seeing a mass hysteria amongst women celebrating this woman. It's a double whammy over here where we're watching insight into a very fine.

fundamental problem that we have with a significant portion of our population with how they relate to a woman who's been incredibly accused of murdering her three kids. So this is just a real shit sandwich for our society. So you sort of put it in the same thing as I'm blank on the kid's name that murdered the health care executive. Did you do, the Luigi Mangione. Do you see it as sort of in that same category? It is in an aspect of you've got a bunch of terrorist communists who sympathize with what they perceive to be a fellow comrades sticking it to one of the owners of production. And so they see a unified coalition amongst a fiscal ideology in that situation. But what you have with the Lindsay Clancy situation, I believe, is a similar.

thing, but what they see is, well, women are being wired through social media right now to see massive value in, I'm oppressed, I have it so hard. I am at the, I'm exhausted as one of the favorite terms that is being promoted by the algorithm. And so these women are all coalescing around this idea that they're fighting some sort of external struggle against capitalism and men and the patriarchy, and they're so tired, and they see that as the unifying force or why they're relating to this woman who was facing all those same issues, and then got to the point where they allegedly, she killed her kids. And so you see all these women out there. They're promoting her. They're outside the courthouse today. Did you see that? It's crazy. Lines and lines and lines of these.

I did. Yeah, there it is. They can do shit like that. You can't do shit like that. There's a woman sitting here. Easy boy. Yeah. You guys.

It actually makes me sad. It makes me sad because the reality is there is an opportunity for something to be communed around that is non-political and is just sort of a, you know, a shared experience that they should talk about honestly. as opposed to making it political. That's awful if it becomes colored with all that. But everything seems to get color with it now. Yeah, well, if you look at the social media

that is fueling this, that's amplifying this shared experience amongst these crazy checks, you will see that it is layered in politics. It's all layered in radicalized feminism, communism, anti-capitalism, and woe is me, woe is me, I'm the biggest victim. These people have,

these are now 25-year-olds who've known nothing other than the internet. And they've been watching people get prevalence for being victims. And so this is something new to our species where you used to be ashamed of how you were. Now you go out there and you promote it And you over exaggerate it and promote it.

And it's creating a mass hysteria amongst women. And they're all celebrating the world's worst people. This is a huge problem. I want to ask you when you stop communing, teaching with high school students. So I get a sense of what you witnessed in terms of this very issue evolving. But before I get you to answer that question, I saw a social media post that I thought was funny today. It was like a 10-year-old firing an automatic weapon. And people are like, oh, my God, what, what, why would she need to, do you see that post?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. And what did it say? So you've got, you've got this, this mentality from a group of people who, number one, want to kill babies up to nine months. They just signed legislation in Massachusetts. They all celebrating clapped while they legislated away the lives of babies that are completely viable. They, they promote this idea that you can be a pedophile. not a problem as long as you haven't acted on your pedophilia. And they like, they use the term

minor attracted people like this is all totally normal stuff and celebrate a woman who allegedly murdered her three children. Yeah, I could see why a 12 year old needs to be able to be familiar with an AR 15. Yeah. It said maybe a mom with psychosis would be useful to know how to use this guy. But what about, so you and high school students, when did you last in count, when were you last in a room with them? Oh, it's probably been maybe eight years. Okay. So, so you're literally, these were your students that were talking about. You said 25-year-old women. That's about right. You had 16, 17-year-olds? Yeah. What did you see? What, what were they doing? What was the deal? I think it's, it's kind of what we've been talking about for a while and I'm completely addicted to,

I don't mean this in a negative way, by the way. I'm not shitting on kids. This is just kind of the developmental cycle that we're seeing. Children that are coming from households where it's mostly one parent, children come from a household where they're not familiar with a male figure, where femininity is kind of a shoot. It's a mom who's distant by herself, by the way, raising kids, The kids are constantly on a phone.

Kids are constantly glued to a screen. Zero attention span. And no accountability. And this is a cocktail for a human bomb. Were you confronting that in the classroom? If so, how did they respond? No, usually schools have policies. They've got policies in place to,

Like you're just trying to enforce policies. Like you're not supposed to have like your phone out. And so when you're a teacher, you kind of understand that there's no sense in trying to fight. If what's going on in your household is going on in your household, there's a room of 32 of you in here. I have maybe a minute and a half with you. one on one for any one thing. I'm not fixing any of these problems that are fomenting in an environmental zero control on.

And so I'm like, look, can you find China on this map? We got to go. Like, it's a completely impossible job, by the way. It's completely impossible. There's no way to do that job good. There's no way to do that job well. Under Drew. It's funny.

Our son-in-law is, our son-in-law is mom. mom was a many, many year teacher. And I said that she corrected me well and then kept on talking. I was like, okay, okay, yep, you don't step in a teacher. And I actually appreciated it. I like teachers correcting me. But are you an advocate for homeschooling? So, yes, I'm a huge advocate of homeschooling.

A lot of what's being done in your public school system is classroom management. they're not educating your kids as much as they are just trying to manage the environment of typically what's what's a very chaotic environment. The problem with homeschool is that you still get taxed and you still got to pay for the public school, whether you send your kid there or not. So it's a double dip in your pocket to pay for these educational services. As long as, look, it's desperation time as long as your kids get educated. You know what I mean? I think so. I think more so than I am a advocate for homeschool.

I'm an advocate for reconfiguring our society. So we can have families raising their children in whatever way that they feel appropriate without finding themselves in these financial situations where they have to send their kid to a public school because both parents have to work. And that's become the norm for too long. So you're sort of zeroing in as that the issue. How about keeping families together? Well, I mean, you know, we have to keep families together. And one way to keep families together is to limit some of these financial stressors that we have. And if we've got an economy that can facilitate a household environment where only one person is necessitated to go to work

and you can still raise a family of five and alleviate those financial stresses, whether that mom wants to send her kid to school, she has the time to find a good school, she has a time to monitor whether or not what's being done at that school, or if she has the time to do the homeschooling. It's all about options because if you have, if you, if you're homeschooled your kid, but you're not doing it well because you're going to work and you've got all these other stressors,

that's not going to be beneficial to us either. The entire system that we have for families right now is fucking stupid. So are you of the sort of Andrew Yang sort of school that we should have universal basic income, or are you more close to Elon Musk? Okay, Elon Musk saying that money will be worthless soon. No, no, I don't agree with either one of those. Do you have to kick 50 million people who broke into this country out of this country?

You have to stop printing money in this country. We have a double issue with our currency. system where on one hand we overprint it. We've got a system that's completely criminal that prints the money, which inflates it, and makes it worthless. And then we've also devalued the currency and the purchasing power within. And so there's a lot of things that we can do in this country. If we just go back to shit, that's not crazy and suicidal. You enforce your borders. You stop importing H-1Bs. Don't tell me that we need workers from China. Don't tell me we need workers from India. what we need is we need more Americans.

We need Americans who love America to have American babies. And those people can do that if we don't have a fucking stupid economy built off of fiat dollars and inflation and nonsense. And so we need people to be able to- Federal Reserve. Federal Reserve Fiat notes. Yeah, these guys, they create money out of nothing. And it's completely worthless.

So should we have a federal reserve? No. No. There's absolutely no need for- That's what I thought you were saying. That's what I thought you were saying. Okay, I want to switch topics. Go ahead, finish your thought, and then we'll switch topics.

Finish that thought. You've got. Anybody who tries to fix these issues gets blasted in their head in the middle of downtown Dallas. So this is a very key issue that people have tried to solve it. It ended up badly, but we should keep focusing on it. Was JFK trying to do that? Yeah. I believe so.

I think that's one of the reasons they blew us out of part. Yeah. Nice. So let's talk about this Fauci. Nice. Fauci advisor. David, this is all such such uplifting topics.

I'm like, I'm going to walk away depressed today, salty. So Dave Moran's, Fauci advisor, avoiding FOIA. What were these guys thinking? They put it on their phones and on their emails, these incredibly incriminating communications of how to break the law. And then they were arrogant and shitwads during a lot of their inquiries.

And there were the smoking bronze, guns. What do we make of this? This is, this is, so out of all the bad stuff we've been talking about, Dr. Drell, I fundamentally think that we're criminal top-heavy. And this is a life cycle of a civilization. And it's going to collapse. Huberous always brings these people down. and we just got to have the resiliency to build out of it.

And I think that we will. So this is a key aspect. Here you've got these individuals who told you that they were the most important people ever. Don't question them, questioning them, questioning science. And they're the point meant for the most dadliest pandemic knowns to man. And they're forging documents. They're not only forging documents and deleting documents and hiding emails and potentially nukeing stuff off of email servers,

they then don't necessarily hide it. There's so many criminals at that level that they were so comfortable with this criminality that the brazenness of this should collapse this. We've got one dude going to jail, and there's two co-conspirators at least

tied to this that need some more investigations, and this will continue to bring more and more heat upon Fauci as they try to call him back, in. He's refused to come in. And heat is good for us in the situation. Again, I am interested in the truth and heat hopefully will bring out the, I don't know, bring out the, cause the rats to jump away. And in doing so, perhaps they'll unload some of what they know. Do you think this guy is going to become an informant? I hope that there is, so it's going to take a number of people.

I might be wildly wrong here. I'm a conspiracy theorist, Dr. Drill. I think that this, this, this, this, this COVID-19, the virus, the everything involved with it, including the statistics that was used in media. I think that's an aspect of this too. I think that this is all a weapon. And I think that this weapon has come. It's not just a handful of these Chinese scientists.

that whipped this up, I think that this is something that's got U.S. ties to it as well. So there's a reason why. Oh, for sure. There's, yeah, there's so many people in our own institutions that don't want this figured out. I think that, I think what you have here is a runaway criminal syndicate that doesn't know national boundaries. And they were making a lot of money with this technology and able to sell political power with the ramifications of this pandemic. And I think that we've got people from multiple

countries who are guilty from attacking us. Yeah, I fear what is under the hood. Not just from the standpoint of our fingerprints being on everything, not to mention the 100 labs in Ukraine. We don't know what the hell is going on there. Yep. But that if we start to look at how profound this arms race is and who's involved and what they've been up to and why people thought this was a good idea. It's going to get gruesome, I suspect. It's not just going to be simple. Like, oh, this guy was wanting to make a lot of money. That is conspiracy theory. That's, it's never as simple as that. It's always much more complicated. But still, it does not forgive the lying, obfuscating FOIA avoidance, you know, stonewalling, ruining lives.

for no reason, knowing you were doing it without any benefit. All this stuff just doesn't reach the level of any measure of bioethics. And that's what Vinay Prasad did an interesting stub stack today where he put like eight or 10 concerns he's had based on what's coming out so far. And he's like spot on with everything. So I'm going to let you go after this one topic. Cambridge University and Jason Ardei, I think is how he pronounced his name. Your thoughts.

Well, I just saw right before we went live here that the individual that outed him, if you would, has now been suspended. Yeah. Fired. Yeah, fired. Oh. Well, effectively, it'll be fired. It'll be fired. It'll be fired. I mean, it's on his way. Yeah. Well, listen, he better hope that he doesn't get arrested over there. That place has gone crazy lately. So what a signal to send to everybody? You've got an individual who just happens to be the pay me of Cambridge University, I guess, a bi-pac lesbian, trans professor of color. And you've got to allow that individual to plagiarize. You've got to allow them to park in the handicapped spots. You've got to allow them to do whatever the hell they want because they're effeminate and black. and if you if you dare call out any it's plagiarism that that's one of the that's got to be one of the

top deadliest sins of a university at plagiarism for folks like you know it's interesting oh my god plagiarism and kind of for the student you'd be expelled immediately but but he one of the thing of an eye presad said he said he read his material which very few people have done and it's so obviously plagiarized and he said it's all gibberish and he said he said you know then I went to the sociology department at the eight major universities and just randomly selected sociology articles and PhD defenses and things. And he said, it's equally as gibberish. It's all gibberish. It's all just declaration without any evidence, without any data, just opinions, just top to bottom. And it's, of course, the same opinions. And that was an interesting observation at his part. One last thing. moderna came up with an mrna vaccine for cancer which i am all about it that's what mrna was designed for

that's what we always heard we were going to use it for it's been thought of for melanoma for many decades now they they can't get it to work properly but good for cancer uh moderna stock went crazy any thoughts on that yeah so this is this was one of the things that i was concerned about so and i don't know anything about mrna technology other than what happened with the COVID situation. And it's all negative for me and tens of millions of other people like me. And so I've heard and read that this is the Holy Grail and it will fix a whole bunch of issues. But you've got a hundred million of us right now that aren't going to take MRNA, right?

Even if the thing shits gold, I'm not taking it. But salty, we could make you shit cold. Your wife may really want you to take the vaccine. not with what they did. And so that's why he has, not only him, but all these people have to be held responsible. They have impacted science in a negative way for generations at this point that is going to negatively impact what we could get out of it as a human species.

And you have to hold them accountable for this. So I will just say that people have got to understand. understand the difference between a fatal situation when you take risk that might have long-term consequences and an otherwise healthy individual with zero risk and that you mandate to take a treatment. That is a infinity distance, literally infinity. One is a situation where people can choose to take those kinds of risks. The others, you have no bioethical standing to do what they did. And we got to get that clear in our head because we cannot allow that to happen again. We cannot. You can take the vaccine if you want. Fine. Yeah. And I still, by the way, at the same time, believed I believe now I help my 85-year-old patients with it. I do believe we helped. But the 19-year-olds that got myocarditis, holy Christ, that is just mind-boggling stuff. Wrap me up here. Take me to the screaming in the woods. Take me to the cartoon pigs. Where do we find you? What are you talking about? Screaming. Yeah, if you want to see me mocking a bunch of lesbians yelling in a forest through their vaginas, punch salty cracker into a YouTube or Rumble. Find me over there or Salty Cracker 9 at X.

I'd be more than happy to lull with you guys. Always a privilege to speak with you. Let me quickly look at the comments. See if there's anything for you there. They want to talk about Albert Borla. That's a big, another big giant topic. Oh, there's so much you and I could talk about. We didn't get into climate.

That's kind of an interesting topic. guy was discussing with somebody yesterday. All right, listen. When is the show? Where can they watch it? Sunday through Wednesday, 430 Pacific, over on Rumble. All right. Thank you for being here, my friend.

Thank you, your wife, for setting it up. Thank you. Thanks, Caleb. Thank you, everybody so much. And I'll see you later, chat. Salt must flow, salty queen. Thank you. All right, we are going to switch gears entirely.

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I take it to a certain extent. I take the PM product, and he's going to tell you all about how this came to be. But first, you were alluding to there being a funny story here. Lean into that mic a little bit. There you go. I wasn't prepared for that. One of my best friends when I was a younger man, we were big fans of their shows. I mean, you were huge when we were teenagers and stuff like that.

Being Corolla. You liked that show. Sure. Okay. Well, there was a bunch of other ones. And so I was just, you know, messaging him or whatever that I was going to be out here and being on your show. And I said, did you ever really think that one day I would be sitting across from Dr. Drew? Because we were big friends.

He goes, he goes, actually, maybe, but not in this capacity. Considering a lot of the other shows. You'd have questions. Or you'd come to rehab shows. That's really funny. I couldn't stop laughing. That was one of the funnier things I've heard. You know who said that to me a little bit different, but the same idea was Joel

Michael. Joel McHale was on the show with me and Adam and he goes, you know, when I was up there in Seattle of going to University of Wynage, I always listen to you guys. I think, God, if I got on your show, I really had made it at that point. It's like, then he's zoomed on past us. So talk to us about where this came from. Because when you first told him a story, I looked at the research. I'm like, why does everybody know about this? Well, that's what I do for a living is trying to get everybody to know about this because I believe in it. I'm a user of the products. I don't even take any other supplements. Literally. This is the only thing that I take. I'm a 40-year-old man. I believe in what it is. I was a, so the product was originally created by two brothers.

One of them was a biochem guy. He worked in lab diagnostics and testing at a hospital. And the other brother was one of the kind of the mouthpiece guys. And they, they, he created this formula, and this was years ago. He created this formula and it started to gain. It was a small regional company in Florida. And it was gaining a lot of traction in sports and physicians. And so they were doing their thing and they were selling regionally and nationally to clinics, the original formula. And so they were selling only the physicians.

To physicians. The physicians, correct. There was no direct consumer. This is before the days of the internet. Or it was a fledgling thing. And I started my career in health and fitness. That was my big passion. That's what I wanted to do for the rest of my life.

And I got a hold of the original formulas of this product in a gym because I was working out with athletes and trying to be a pseudo-competitive. athlete myself. That didn't work out. But I got a hold of the product. I was in my late 20s at the time, loved it. And then my career progressed where I was ended up working with professional athletes. And so I was in sports performance and training, specifically with professional football, CFL, NFL, NFL offseason, collegiate prep, stuff like that. I brought the product into there. They used it, loved it. And so you had a lot of the older athletes, a lot of NFL

vets who loved this stuff. And we're using it. I'm like, oh, man, this is pretty cool. And then I started my own fitness facility, my own concept, my first, you know, big play at business. And I private label the products and he's had developed a good relationship with the original owners and formulators at the time and put them into my different, different audience. 40 plus crowd, business professionals, group classes, stuff like that. Success.

Okay. There's more here. When now I was done with that venture, I was looking on my next venture, and I went and I actually purchased the original company with my business partner and co-founder. That was still a direct-to-physician-only product. So we were selling to physicians all over the country. What was the feedback you're getting from doctors? I mean, exceptional because the doctors that used it and knew how to apply it appropriately. Was it naturopathic guys or was just everybody?

This is an interesting story because especially considering your show and what you guys talk about. So this is pre-COVID. So I got handle of the company in 2019. The company was originally started in, let's just say, 2012. And back then, before COVID, the functional physician, functional medicine, it was functional back then. Or some of the things would be considered holistic or. They were marginalized back then. Correct.

They've come forward a bit since those days. This is very interesting because this has to do a lot with how the products got so huge was I look at it as a level. to right spectrum of normal, you know, medicine back then, functional medicine, holistic approaches, not right to the prescription was left of center. And then, you know, your right of center was, I look at right of center as like surgeons, brain surgery all the way to the right. Yeah. So COVID happens. And people now, I mean, look at the show. People are now kind of rethinking or questioning how their physicians are providing products. For sure, questioning. And so when that happens, there was this huge shift.

in medicine of now functional medicine was now becoming mainstream, where before it was looked down upon. Very mainstream, formerly, very, very mainstream physicians started getting into it. People in the depths of, you know, what kind of medicine I practiced, and the surgeons in particular, what I found interesting, started jumping on in because they were, they were tired. They were tired of not being helpful. Well, now these practices, a lot of them that have, because we know these physicians who have made the transition to private practice, cash pay, like alternative treatments and therapies because they're way ahead of the curve of what they're allowed to do. And I live in Florida,

so it's a very different regulatory experience. Everybody goes to these clinics now, right? We have a, for my family, we have insurance and do all those things, but we have concierge medicine. They come to the house. We go to a special places because we want a different approach. So through COVID, a lot of people started experiencing these, an alternative way of looking at their own health and wellness. And with that, products like ours started to get much larger and gain a lot of traction. So this is actually the most evolved as BioPro Plus, which is what you're familiar with, is the most evolved of all of those formulas that we acquired, because we acquired 25 plus

different formulas. And the reason why this was the one that we really leaned into was because when I was doing market research on the formulas that we had of how to grow this company and this brand, I started reaching out to the physicians that were already purchasing our products. And there was one product that stood out far and away from the,

with the most esteemed and most well-known. And we were talking nationally known physicians that were in age management. Orthopedic surgeons were buying this stuff for themselves. And so I was calling these physicians. I'm like, why? Because orthopedics, they don't sell products to their patients. They do shoulders.

They sell hips and shoulders. Yeah. So I called one of these gentlemen up and I'm like, why are you, what are you buying it for in the clinic? He's like, buying it for myself. What are you talking about? He's like, I had a shoulder surgery. I'm like, so you believe in this this much? She's like, absolutely.

And so a lot of these really large physicians in Boca Raton out of Nevada, which is a huge space for anti-aging medicine, we're huge in the Northeast Atlantic. They were all buying the specific formula, which was the most important form and specifically delivered formula that we had. When I found that out during COVID, I was like, okay, I kind of push. a lot of our chips in there and redeveloping it, and that's where BioproPlus came from. And so talk about what's in there and what the mechanisms are. So what we do is, is we extract a natural, we extract natural growth factors and peptides, amino acid profiles. Maybe we should stop right there.

Because peptides, people's head kind of swims these days. And they think of these injectable products. They think of all kinds of things. And let me just say, I'm biased because we don't know the risks of those drugs. They're drugs. I mean, let's face it. But are we talking about things like BPC 157? Are those the sorts of phenomena?

Similar effects. Similar effects. The main driver in this product are the natural growth factors, which are just cell signals. They're protein cytokines. They trigger cellular growth. Growth and change. Androgenesis, right? Blood vessel growth, too.

Yes, depending upon the growth factor. So what we're doing is we've identified, and this is just the science, that they're identified 13 different unique growth factors in the raw material. real that we extract from, which is from the American elk. So you have a living, you have the only regenerating organ, the only regenerating appendage in the entire mammalian animal kingdom, which is cervidane species antler bearing, you know? So we use, and we do this in the United States, we use American elk. Now, if you harvest this material at the right time, you have a specific way of doing it, and this has been going on since the late 60s when, when growth hormone

science was started, the Russians were doing this, the Chinese were doing this for their Olympic athletes. Because that's when synthetic growth hormone was starting to take its place. And that was a different story. So this was an alternative. See, I think that I just sort of feel like we live in the golden age of supplements. We can really do things now with people's biology in a very positive direction. And one of them, I think, is in the whole zone of growth factors. We are really improving growth factor. And therefore, joint recovery, muscle building, all these things. And I was a little skeptical for years.

You know, I'd see patients doing steroids and that all these growth hormones. I wanted to do the growth hormones. And they had trouble stopping the growth hormones, interestingly. They would stop the steroids, wouldn't stop the growth hormone, and then go back to the steroids, of course. But I think now we really live in a time where you can enhance this biology. I'm convinced of that. Well, I'm like everybody else, like, I want to live the best way that I can. I want to look the best way they can.

I want to feel the best way I can. And I look to exactly what we're doing here, which is a natural approach before because I don't take synthetic hormones. I don't take synthetic drugs. I'm not equating the two, by the way. I'm just saying that that used to be the only conversation about growth hormone. You take it exiginally. That just didn't look right to me at all. What is really interesting is that if you look at when growth hormone kind of even its heyday in the 90s, because we deal a lot with men, especially men's hormone health to social replacement.

I mean, these are the clinics and the physicians we work with. And there's a reason for that is because testosterone to be absorbed optimally needs specific growth factors that decline with age as well. And so when testosterone replacement treatments were started in the 90s, you typically always got a growth hormone treatment with it. And that's because the end result of growth hormone is IGF1, which is necessary for the absorption of optimal testosterone. And the, and I'm getting a little, my head's starting to swim a little bit. I'm imagining the consumers is using this. Who should be using? Let's sort of stay there.

One of the opportunities for me is the GLP1 user. Yes. Right? I mean, these guys are wasting. And that this would fight that back, provided you're doing some resistance training. Yes, because GLP1s, as you've said so eloquently before, work by putting yourself into a gigantic caloric deficit.

while you're the, as soon as you end a caloric deficit beyond a certain measure, your body is immediately going to start eating your muscles and energy source because it's the most potent nutrient dense energy source in your body. It's going to go into survival mode. And yes, you might be losing weight. Yeah. It's not like necessarily the good way. It's not what you want to be. Yeah. And it becomes another body dysmorphia. That's the other problem that's getting into it. Sometimes you do things and you end up without the expected result. And it's, it's. Well, they don't know what's happening to them oftentimes. They don't see it. And they don't see it. And they. And they don't see it. And they. And they. And they don't. And they. And they don't see it. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And they. And. And they. And. And they. And. And they. And That's the dysmorphia part. And then there's mood disturbances and gastric problems. I'm worried about the GLP ones. But even on a low dose, which I'm sort of in favor of, I would urge people to be thinking about products like this. To protect their lean mass, yes, absolutely. And so there isn't some end-old-s silver bullet.

So products like this are absolutely effective in helping to at least main. In fact, that's what some of the science is specifically about is maintaining lead muscle mass while you're in a state of caloric restriction. We didn't know that. We didn't know GLP ones was going to be this huge thing way before. We were talking about this 10 years ago. Also, I've noticed, this is why I like it, at my age, when I can lose weight, I'm good at it. And sometimes I'll just let it run in the wrong direction. But when I lose now, I'm losing muscle more than I used to by a large margin, even though when I maintain resistance training, high level resistance training.

And I started having two conversations with myself, well, should a guy my age weigh? You know, how much should I try to lose? I'm not sure. But it wasn't where I was about maybe 14 pounds below here, a couple of that a year ago, maybe a year and a half ago. I was like, well, this isn't right. But that's when I started thinking about growth factors to try to help me sustain things when I lose weight or if I want to keep my lean muscle mass up, my weight down.

This is a perfect way to do it. I would agree with you. So who else? Is it only people like boneheads like us or should? Well, thank you for the compliment. Um, the, so physicians are actually, so men, we, who use synthetic treatments, specifically TRT, love the product because of the absorption mechanism. Yeah.

But also some of the guys, okay, cool, so I can bring the testosterone down. Do you with that with your physician, but that is, that is an opportunity there. Some of the guys like myself who, I don't, I'm against a lot of that for me personally, for you use of TRT or any other type of formal treatments. Well, I've got prostate cancer. I don't want to be dependent on any type of drug and you see how these things go. One day they might shut it off and you're like, uh-oh. Well, not only that, I feel like, obviously guys like me with a prostate cancer, no.

But it's not for everybody. It just isn't for everybody. It doesn't really cause their ability, cause it. It doesn't actually work for everybody too. And it doesn't work for everybody. And you're getting, I worry, what I worry about is, this is my concern medically. normal testosterone in most laboratories is 200 to 1,200. We don't know what normal is for a given individual.

I've seen plenty of guys that are checked up with a testosterone of 400. Mine hangs out around 1,000 to 1,200, and I feel like I need a little more. I do. I feel like I'm, because something about the aging process, I'm not responding to it the same way. I know it. But taking testosterone would be insane. It'd be nuts. Forget the prostate cancer.

aside. And that's just how dicey this becomes. And it's really, I think, more important to feed your body what it needs, give it some enhancement, give it some supplementation that makes sense in the biological pathways. And many of these things that I advocate for will, in my opinion, ultimately add to longevity. And even if it just maintains our muscle mass that we don't fall later, that contributes to longevity just by itself. muscle mass is the key component for longevity, as you would say. Yes, it is. It's a key ingredient.

It's not the only one, but it's a key ingredient. All right, anything else to be said before I let you go? No, I think some of the things you were alluding to was, you know, it does help with women. And women and menopause specifically. And one of your big things is making sure that women, correct, testosterone, absorption, and women is entirely overlooked. Do they respond to the tribulus, the way men do? Tribulus actually has a lot of science specifically for women with the urinary tract,

health, hormone health, libido, et cetera. So yes. Drubis is actually well studied in female patients. A lot of clinics. You might get some hormone balance out of this. You might give a shot. She doesn't like the taste. Well, you know, we're here, but we don't make milkshakes. We make, you know, products that work.

So. And there's some. I tried it. It gave me energy. I woke up the morning and I took it and I felt this abundance of energy and my son says the same thing. It just, it's like. He's. He's texting.

I mean, it does work. I have a problem of not doing it every day and having to remember it. So that's why I have bioidentical testosterone implants because it's in there. And all I have to do is take my... You can't remember to take stuff. The beauty beyond that is it is a singular daily dose. They're all numbered. So you know you take one every morning and night.

And you hold up the product because they can't see it. It's not in that. There it is. And the fun thing is we're, we just started working on stuff and putting it out there for animals for canine longevity as well, which has been really exciting, actually. How do they take it? They take it in a. So what we do is we use the exact same science.

We harvest the material similarly, and then we put it into an edible chew that they can use. We need an edible chew for this. I know. It works out of the way it is. The science is insane. So, I mean, it completely double, double wine placebo control trial shows the improvement in aging dogs with zero side effects. So zero toxicity level and side effects.

So it's been really exciting. That was something new that we're working on and just launched. But, you know, I didn't. So they should go to biopro-tech, is it?

Or bioprotechetech.com. No, we go to Dr.jure.com slash biopro. Okay. Yeah, that's ours. We make it easy for you guys because they're...

But to find out more about your science, your products. Yeah, you can go right to the website. I think that's where the link goes. It goes right to his website. Yeah, the link goes right there. No. Dr. Drew.com slash bioproro.

It'll take the mold of the information. It goes to the bioprotein website? Yeah. It goes. Yeah, I made a short link. Yeah, that's where it goes. That's our call to action, and we want everybody to go check it out. And so I successfully hold it under my tongue for about 45 seconds.

Is that adequate? Yeah. Especially for the sleep product. Yeah. And women dogs. The sleep products is insane. We did a money back. We do money back guarantees on all our products.

the sleep product we did a 72-hour money-back guarantee because I know how it works because it works so fast and it and it's measurable and all those things and the money-back guarantee was too good that people didn't believe it. Yeah. And so we had to back it down. But the sleep product works immediately. And you're also getting the growth factors. A much, much, much smaller dose. It is it is a companion product. It is helping to put you in a deeper. The suing is it's increasing the time you spend in your two most deep regenerative states during sleep, SWS and REM sleep, which is where your natural hormones are secreted. And what we're trying to do is we're trying to hit you from both angles, which is help

your body get into, for the daytime. We're going to give you the growth factors directly. For the nighttime, we want you to help your body to naturally produce these hormones. Perfect. Natural. All right. So if you guys are interested, it's a doctor. com slash biopro.

Dustin, thank you for being here. We appreciate it. It's very interesting. Like I said, why didn't I know about this? I'm here now. I know about it now. I know about it now. Better than ever.

That's right. Yeah, good job. So let's put up upcoming guests here. We'll be in New York next week. So we'll be coming to you from there. John Lake, Palmer Fortune, Eric Bowlingback, Steve Lance. Let's see. Dave Rubin.

We'll be from Florida for that show. Dr. Dana Eamon coming here. Same show with Pai Ling. That's quite an interesting combination. Did she, did Byling, Susan? Did I think see Dr. Amen or something? Do we know? No, no.

That's weird. It was just my idea. Data Republican. We're trying to talk about addiction more lately because you're the addiction guy. Got it. Naomi Wolf coming in. A lot of, again, great guests up here. Oh, Robert Redfield coming back, the former head of the CDC.

Joseph Freeman. And with Alan Dershowitz, all three on the same day. That's crazy. That's for my birthday. That's for my birthday. These are booked a long time ago. Please, God, let it happen. Oh, my God.

That's an amazing. for your birthday. Well, you better tell Emily to tell them it's your birthday, so they better show up. Two of the three show up, I'll be happy. Any two. Keep me very happy. All right, everybody, thank you for being here. Thank you to Salty and Mrs. Salty. What do we call Mrs. Salty now? Queen Salty? Salt Queen, Salt Queen, Salt Queen, and for bringing a little salt flow our way. We'll see you guys on Tuesday. Wait a minute. Monday. Yes, Monday. We don't have a show on Tuesday. Put that calendar back up again. Let's make sure we're all on the same page with this. As usual, we have to go through this. Susan, what day is the 24th?

Monday. Got to figure out. We don't get up brand. That's Monday. What time are we filming on Monday, Kayla? Monday. Well, we're just two o'clock there. Monday's show on the 24th of August is at 2 p.m. Pacific time. Correct. Right. Okay. Same usual time. And then Thursday. We're dark. We're not back till Thursday. Wednesday were dark and Thursday we're back. So they were back. They have two shows next week, but not on Tuesday. And then the Dave Rubin show is on the first, which is a Tuesday.

And we'll be back in studio for the third for that extraordinary show. So we're eliminating Wednesdays moving forward unless we really have to do a late show because Casey Gates said, please do all your shows at 2 o'clock. So Casey Ask and The Show receive. And I agree with them because the late show is, it's a little tough. It's like 8 o'clock central. It's our Eastern and everybody's, you know, going to bed and stuff. It's not the greatest time.

So we're going to try these Monday, Tuesday, Thursdays. I'm going to write Casey on the ramps. Oh, there it is. You know, it'll be mostly Tuesday, Thursday, but occasional Monday. So stay tuned. Look for the links. Go to Dr. Do Doc TV. We can never make Casey Gates happy.

I said 3 o'clock. Oh, he wants us to move. time to three, yeah, that's not going to happen. Okay, Dickhead. Well, it's going to be, it's going to be Tuesday, Thursday, and probably Monday, correct, going forward, generally speaking? It'll be Tuesdays and Thursdays and then. Monday or Friday.

A Monday. Occasional Monday. Like every other week. Ten shows a month, come and get them, and we'll be here for you. Right. And they've been, Emily's been doing an extraordinary job with the guests, and they've been all fun. I feel a little bad about. Salty's take on Lindsay, it's her last time?

Well, that was a, that was a, I get it. I get his point of view. That's why I didn't discuss it. But when I said, hey, there's a woman sitting here. I have empathy for the women who all showed up for this woman. Because what they're trying to convey is this woman had horrible mental health problems. Women need to come together and really discuss this on a public forum. And they're not saying, oh, let her go free.

She just killed her kids. That's not what they're saying. They're saying that this was, she was out of her mind. And having a lot of children at the same time, like I did, like she did, you know, it does cause this high anxiety and some mental health issues. So, you know, of course everybody isn't going to kill their child because they feel like it. And this was wrong. And the jury needs to decide.

But I don't feel bad for women's coming out to promote. a need for to be heard. And they're not all necessarily woke, reoriented women, I think, personally. I think they just have empathy for what she's going through. Well, it's why I didn't discuss it. Because his point of view was so specifically about a portion of the group that I didn't want to talk about that I normally, if you want to hear the whole conversation, go listen to actual friends and family.

We do an actual friends this week. It'll be up on Friday, probably, where we didn't have Dave Rubin or Jillian Michaels with us. So it was just me and Sage, and we invited our spouses, and we got in deep on the Clancy case. And it takes 15, 20 minutes to get into it. I also did Tudor Dixon this week, and I went in with her for half an hour on this thing.

It takes a while to, I just thought to myself, you know, my thing is so biological and so clinical and Susan's is so concerned about women's issues and treatment by the medical system. But these are all big topics. Being a mother is not for the fan of heart. I switch it to Roycia. Yeah, I know, I know. But I just wanted to throw that in because it was a little, it was a little skewed.

No, I'm glad you said something. I do. And I'm, I don't look at news like this. Like, I'm not a person that goes on Instagram and looks out. I had to look at it and I just, I don't want to see this. Like, it's not. And Susan does a great job on actual friends and family. So check it out there.

I know. I love you too. And we'll have the, we'll have the clips up on Instagram and Caleb will be, what do you call it, collaborating with them? Which I don't really understand, Caleb. Yeah, you're going to have to explain to me how that what that all is. Somebody has mentioned that. It's a neat YouTube feature. I wish they had it back in my day.

It collabs so people can go and see all. of everyone's channels like you, Sage Steel, Jillian, or Dave, everybody gets linked under the video on YouTube. So you can follow everybody's channels at once. And it posts to everyone's channels too. So if you just go to YouTube.com slash Dr. Drew, you'll see all the actual friends episodes right there on the homepage. Thank you for that. And Susan, you said you wish somebody. There's something.

There's never married dating.com said that apparently made a Facebook is being sued for $1.4 trillion dollars for all the stuff about. you know, targeting children. Yeah. And do you think that's going to happen? Not $1.4 trillion. I feel that it's so complicated. There will be something, I suspect, and they'll have to do something to correct it,

but they're not going to destroy the company. That's ridiculous. Well, I'm glad we got our 1.6 million views with Roycia before that happened. So at least we can, I'm so proud of that. I've been running all the Instagram Facebook, and I'm very proud of myself. I don't think so. All right. We're going to go. See you guys on Monday, 2 o'clock.

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