Ask Dr. Drew - Sasha Latypova: Covid “Military-Intelligence Operation” Dossier Alleges DOD Links To Pandemic Outbreak – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 477

Episode Date: April 19, 2025

“Covid was not a public health event, although it was presented as such to the world’s population,” writes ex-pharma executive Sasha Latypova in The Covid Dossier coauthored by Debbie Lerman. ��It was a global operation, coordinated through public-private intelligence and military alliances and invoking laws designed for CBRN (chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear) weapons attacks.” Sasha Latypova is a retired pharmaceutical R&D executive with 25 years of experience, having managed contract research organizations for over 60 companies, including Pfizer and Novartis. She specialized in cardiovascular safety assessments, collaborating with the FDA. More at https://x.com/sasha_latypova and https://sashalatypova.substack.com Connie Shields advocates for ostrich farmers and resists government overreach in Canada. More at https://unlockalberta.substack.com Gwen Lynn is an environmental safety scientist and host of In A Green Minute. With a BS and MS in Environmental Science, she manages health and safety for construction and film industries, specializing in sustainability. She hosted Outdoor Wild Kids Adventures. More at https://inagreenminute.com 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 Find out more about the brands that make this show possible and get special discounts on Dr. Drew's favorite products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors  • HEART FACTORS PLUS - A powerful formula packed with L-arginine, a key amino acid that's been shown to enhance nitric oxide physiology and could play a key role in supporting healthy blood flow and circulation. Get a FREE bottle with your order at https://heartfactorsplus.com/drew • ACTIVE SKIN REPAIR - Repair skin faster with more of the molecule your body creates naturally! Hypochlorous (HOCl) is produced by white blood cells to support healing – and no sting. Get 20% off at https://drdrew.com/skinrepair • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at https://drdrew.com/fatty15 • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And Sasha, welcome to the show, welcome back. You have a new publication called the COVID dossier. I wanna hear all about it. I noticed by the way, on today's a sub stack, you were talking about the weaponization of essentially public health. And I'm wondering if those two things, that's another thought or if that's in the dossier?

It's not in the dossier. So the dossier, which I co-published with my colleague, Debbie Lerman. So the dossier is a collection of evidence that we pulled together with all referenced. It's basically a listing. Debbie Lerman. So the dossier is a collection of evidence that we pulled together with all reference. It's basically a listing for many countries of the world, including US, Canada, UK, Germany, Netherlands, France,

some Asian countries, Latin American countries. So we have evidence for entire world of military operation COVID. So we're tying COVID campaign to the military coordinated through NATO and military alliances of US and led by the US department. Hang on, I wanna, I'm gonna, we got a little delay so I have to interrupt. I wanna ask something about that.

And so, so I apologize, but I,. But one of the questions I had was, did it become a national security interest for people? Cause they were just freaking out so much about this virus. Or did it, I mean, I've talked to, for instance, what's our Chinese scientist friend, Me Lai. I'm sure you've talked to her too. And she has always, oh, you've never talked to her? She has always maintained that it was a people's liberation army operation from the beginning

and she was involved with it. She was working on the coronavirus backbone. And so on the China front, I could see where it starts as a military operation. Is it that that motivated the rest of the world to also contemplate that this was something of a military importance, or is it the fact that it was disrupting society so much

that it became a military operation? Well, Debbie and I, so it might as well have been People's Liberation Army Operation 2, but Debbie and I, we focused on, primarily on the Department of Defense, and we started our investigation from the Department of Defense,

and then we compiled information for other countries. And on the Department of Defense side, it's very clear, I received a tape from a whistleblower from inside AstraZeneca, yes, that one. a tape from a whistleblower from inside AstraZeneca, yes, that one. And on that tape, two speakers, the CEO of AstraZeneca, Pascal Sorop, I'm not sure I'm pronouncing his name correctly, and Mark Esser, VP of monoclonal antibodies, discuss that they had been approached by the Department of Defense, DARPA, in 2017 to start working on this program. At the time, DARPA called it Pan Influenza,

Pandemic Preparedness Plan, and they told AstraZeneca executives that Department of Defense will be identifying pandemic potential viruses, not clear how, and pharmaceutical companies will be making vaccines and therapeutics for those viruses within 60 days, to which Mark Ester said that his first reaction was that it's science fiction,

because it is science fiction. It's not possible to do. But yet we kind of did it, right? We sort of did it. Kind of, yeah, the keywords. Well, you've always enlightened me about the shortcomings of that process, of the procedures that we're using, continue to be used, I guess. But the thing that, oh, shoot, my next thought escapes me now, my aging brain, it'll come back.

Well, yeah, let me just... It was essentially, oh, go ahead, keep going. Yeah, let me just complete on that tape. So that on the tape also Mark Asler said that they had been working with DARPA since 2017 on this program. And on February 4th, 2020, they received phone call from DARPA from Colonel Matt Hepburn, telling them that COVID has been declared a national

security threat. And February 4 2020 is full months before there was an emergency declaration by President Trump and subsequent HHS Prep Act declarations, which were made retroactive to February 4, 2020. At the time, we didn't know why they were made retroactive a full month. And now we know because that's when the phone call was placed. And that's when the Department of Defense told the Pharmaceutical Consortium, ahead of the president, that it is a national security threat.

And also there was no justification for this national security threat declaration and classification of the entire campaign. Now we still don't know the truth about it. It's still classified. So there was no justification as to why it was a national security threat. There was no, no, there was maybe a handful of cases in the US, PCR cases. There were no deaths in North America at all. There were some rumored deaths in China. And so we still don't know why it was classified as national security threat, by whom and based on what. What is your theory? My theory is they simply declare that so in the US law also the PREP Act says that these declarations or let's say emergency declarations for COVID require no justification, require no data.

They're based solely on opinion of unelected bureaucrats such as HHS secretary at the time, Alex Azar, or, you know, these declarations can be made by the Department of Defense or DHS. So that's how they're made. They're just made because one person thinks that there is a pandemic or there is a potential for a pandemic. And so currently we have... Is it panic? Is it a panic they go into? Or is it Is it panic? Is it a panic they go into? Or is it just a panic?

It's just panic. It's just panic based on a computer model and based on some rumors from China. And usually they prefer to make these declarations based on something that's happening on the other side of the world that nobody can verify. That's the preferred method, okay? So currently we have nine of those outstanding, including COVID, we're still under pandemic.

We're still under this national security threat declaration, which was extended by Javier Becerra, outgoing assistant secretary in December, and it's extended to last until December of 2029. So we still have COVID pandemic until December 2029. And yet they abandoned the entirety of their pandemic planning and just went into full improvisation panic mode,

did they not? Yes, exactly. So what we also found, and this is very typical for all the countries that we profiled in the dossier. So it shows coordination and pre-planning because all of these procedures implemented in the same way. In all of the countries we looked at, there had been previously a normal public health

pandemic plan which said similar things. It said masking is not useful, lockdowns are not useful. We need to advise people to, you know, wash their hands, stay home if they're sick, and, you know, normal things. And it was no, like, mandated vaccines or vaccines that are made in hours, none of that. So all of these plans, including one in the U.S. and Canada and the U.K., all of them were trashed and replaced very quickly

with something completely incomprehensible. including one in the US and Canada and the UK, all of them were trashed and replaced very quickly with something completely incomprehensible. So in the US, it was so-called Pan Kappa or pandemic plan adapted, somehow materialized. We don't know how Debbie found it. It was on the New York Times website at some point, and she found this document and in this document, in the organizational chart of how the pandemic response policy is organized, it's very clear that the policy was driven by the National Security Council. And this is similar in all countries that we looked at.

National Security Council in the US is an advisory body to the president of the United States, and it consists only of military and intelligence heads. It does not have any representatives of public health. Also, the law that was invoked, the PREP Act, EUA countermeasures, that law is designed for responses to CBRN agents' attacks. CBRN are chemical, biological, radiological,

and nuclear agents, warfare agents. And they're only used in war or acts of terrorism. So these laws were designed for war and acts of terrorism. That's why National Security Council is in charge. The public was never told. Remember, we were propagandized that this is a naturally evolved virus. This law is not designed for naturally evolved viruses.

It's specifically designed for C-Borne attacks. So we were lied for two years. After two years, it became acceptable to talk about, maybe not, maybe it came from the lab in China. And it still is kind of a controversial topic because still on the NATO website, they're claiming it's a naturally evolved virus. And so, you know, so that's how the public was confused by the government

and all the laws that were involved. They were designed for very narrow, very time-limited events such as, you know, these bioterrorism attacks and only really for first responders or even just for the military, not for the civilian population and not for the worldwide civilian population and not for continuous boosters for 10 years afterwards. Right, right. So that's how it's being used.

All right, so now I have a bunch of questions here too, which is I do think the public health people got involved, just listening to Francis Collins talk about his, having lost his head completely, tells me that they were equally as out of their mind with what they were doing. Stop the virus no matter what, no matter what the consequence of our actions,

which is the most insane thing for a clinical person to say. It's just the wildest thing, number one. And then number two, anyone hearing you talk about this would certainly think, well, they must've thought it was a bio weapon. Is there any evidence that somebody thought we were under some sort of attack or some sort of bio weapon has gotten loose or, you know,

in other words, did it go better than they thought? And were we actually under attack in some weird way? Well, so I have a personal view on this. I mean, you can believe that there are these go for go for viruses, or gain of function viruses developed in secret biolabs, including in the U.S. and all over the place. You can believe that.

I believe they're overblown mythology and that's my article from today and I'm writing a series on it. But however, whichever way you believe, what we're saying is in this COVID dossier, we want to take our own opinion out and we want to just present the facts. So the facts that we're presenting is

the law that was in 2005 designed for these short-term limited, location limited events, such as attacks, bioterrorism, now is being misused to put a humongous category of products on the market. It's not just the vaccines, it's everything that's related to COVID as a covered countermeasure. So we have, you know, the vaccines, we have remdesivir, we have PCR tests, swabs, masks, procedures in the hospital ventilators, all of it is covered countermeasures. So all of these products are completely regulation free and liability free. This is how the PREP Act is designed. It was justified to say, well, you know, we're removing liability and we're removing all these regulations for these products because these are just desperate, these are desperate situations, very rarely happening. Maybe in

some war theater or maybe it's some attack or something, you know, those are just desperate, desperate places and we can't expect these people to be then liable. Okay, under those conditions is justified, maybe, you know. But now this law is being abused and misused to put a tremendous amount of products on the market and then mandate them on all civilians on the entire population, numerous times. So that's essentially what we're having. We're having all these, the vaccines are not regulated. There is no liability for them.

And there won't be until the end of 2029 at least. So my gravest concern about that is, I guess it's because there's no countervailing force, but that we now know the spike protein is the primary pathogenic component of the virus. It's what really does the damage. And yet all the mandated vaccines are the ones they continue to focus on,

are the ones that produce unrestrained amounts of a spike protein. Why what is your opinion about why they don't come up with another one that had maybe it's a whole virus or a nuclear capsid or what's wrong with Covaxin? What would be the pushback from a pharmacological standpoint other than other than money? Like is there a medical reason that they wouldn't come up with something that is not generating the actual damaging protein?

Well, there was no medical reason to select that as a design target. So it selects spike protein as a design target. We've talked about it forever. And Mike Eden wrote the entire letter, even in December December 2020 about this So that was a false target to design a vaccine for a variety of reasons we knew it was toxic we knew it was going to

produce this unstoppable replication or yeah Unstoppable expression of spike protein in some people because this was a known feature of all the previously failed gene therapies. That's what they would be doing. And so, absolutely no question from the very beginning, any honest professional looking at the design of the product would say it's harmful. It's on purpose harmful.

But even being, what would the word be, sort of as sympathetic as possible to the desperate circumstances that those guys thought they were in, why continue to push that one on babies? Why continue? And on babies, why not come up with something else? I mean, why would we do that?

I can't get it through my head. I can't get it through my head either. I mean, that's why I wrote an open letter to RFK Jr. asking him to at least terminate the declaration for COVID, which is entirely in his authority. This is what PrEP Act says on paper that it's only based on the opinion of the HHS secretary. That the declaration remains in place.

And the COVID shots remain on the childhood schedule. These EUA countermeasures, these hugely toxic things. It's crazy, right? So why? Was it an open letter or did you send it directly to him? I texted it to him and I published it on X and I published it on my sub stack. So you know he's seen it is my point, yes?

I'm sure he's seen it, yes. I have his phone number. Okay, because I was going to offer my, so whatever sources I have to try to get it in front of him, but okay, so he's seen it. Yeah, I'd love for you to also remind him through your sources. I will remind, yeah, I will.

And you sent it to Caleb you know, Caleb or whoever, Emily and she'll send it to me. And, cause it's just so bizarre. Yeah, as someone on our restream says, follow the money. I get the money part. And that, by the way, that is one of the things I'm going to be talking about the executive order that just came out, that's directed towards pharma.

And one of the reasons I really like the EO is that it's directed at pharma behavior. It's not telling them what to do, it's putting forces in place to get them to do the right thing. Which is how businesses have no conscience. They go the direction that the forces are put in place. And this puts some better stuff in place

for things like small molecules and certain negotiated anti-tariff kind of positions for the states and things. So I'm actually an enthusiast of this, but I don't know, God knows it'll get challenged some way. But when you've had a chance to look at it, please write a sub stack on it,

because I'd love to read it. And let me say again, people, please get her sub stack. It is not, you know, it's not comic strip reading. It is sort of the last word on certain topics. And if you want to be up on the last word, she takes it all the way there. Susan, I'm wondering if you have any questions for Sasha because this is all stuff, okay.

Because she, Susan immediately becomes very paranoid about China's involvement in all this. And she, she worries that there is somehow pulling the levers. I, I just think, I think it was just a series of unfortunate mistakes, a series of unfortunate mistakes. And that they're, the fact that they're not correcting it is just a, I can't get over it.

I just, I don't know why it's so easy to correct some of these things. Yeah, I saw there was some unfortunate mistakes throughout 2020 and early 2021. But eventually when you see the mountain of obvious data, harm and injury and death, and the authorities remain blind to it, it's not a mistake anymore.

It's considered, I wrote in around 2022, I wrote several presentations and articles called Intent to Harm, because this blind denial and continued propaganda of safe and effective in the face of deaths and injury at all that's mounted, you know, very, very rapidly, that indicates that what they're doing is intentional. And so since then I've maintained that this is intentional. Well, intentional in the sense that I feel like Fauci and his gang were trying to, they didn't want to have liability

for the choices they made. They wanted to obscure or at least obfuscate some of their gain of function stuff. And so they had a motivation not to undo the emergency action. And then you've got Trump and his sort of ego is involved in all this and he doesn't wanna undo it because it was his vaccine and his whatever. And so it just feels like, again,

human behavior doing its thing, where it has no purpose, it shouldn't be here. There should be clinicians, there should be scientists and that's that. Right, and so that's why we've compiled this dossier. And again, I would like, I want people to look at it. I want journalists asking journalists to take it because it really is just a listing with references and they can investigate from there themselves for their own countries.

It shows a huge amount of pre-planning, international coordination, international coordination through NATO, use of identical set of laws in all of these countries that were put on the books over decades. And shows that they've invoked, all of them invoked these CBRN responses without telling the public. And all of them put these regulation-free, liability-free, hugely harmful products, push them, coerce the public, mandate it. You know, all of these actions show that it's premeditated, preplanned, intentional, coordinated through the military. So prove it's wrong. Well, certainly you're helping me understand,

you're helping me understand. I could never get my head around how the whole world did this, it just didn't make sense to me. And to prove the theory, those that chose a different course, like say Sweden, do you see them opting out of the activation of the CBRN or do you see Africa having no relation with any of that or somebody tried to get them to do it and they didn't?

Well, so the Scandinavian countries, while Sweden didn't have really lockdowns, that was the only sort of more normal thing that they did more public health related response that they did. But as far as vaccines, they have the exact same draconian coercion mandates, not letting people participate in society,

vaccine passports, all that nonsense. And I have very good information about Sweden. I went there several times. I have connections with the politicians. I spoke in their parliament. And so it's very clear that the same framework was used in Sweden for these, for like pushing mRNA. They only kind of opted out, maybe let, maybe like, you know, there were a few places here

and there where, you know, they let them use more normal public health measures, but everything else was the same. And so what is your sort of speculation about where we're going here? What do you see going forward? Are we gonna come to terms with this? Are they gonna try to just pretend it didn't happen? Are they gonna be, are they gonna,

because it's gonna be in place for the next four years, and still they don't have to worry about it. They just kick it, they can down the road. And maybe then people have less intense feelings about it. I know that won't be me, but what do you think? I know it won't be you. And so what do you think is gonna happen? Well, right now, I mean, I can't predict the future.

I still hope that the current administration means to change something about this, means to address this issue. My personal goal is for the next 18 months or so with colleagues, we're going to be going very strongly advocating for repeal of PrEP Act because it's a license to kill. And I've written over 100 articles on it, on my sub stack, and I'm going to be publishing more concise briefs about it. But it is truly a license to kill. It's a brick wall into which everyone who tried

to get any compensation for their injuries inevitably runs into. All the lawsuits that have been going, they're all- I'll tell you, the one tiny little bright light is they're beginning to accept for publication good science that is showing the mechanism for the long COVID and the long vax. And I know Dr. Ogendo just got published a couple days ago.

And so slowly the science is moving towards, it will move towards consensus. It's just inevitable. The science, they are letting, you know, the science publications, yes, but people who are injured, and this is the fastest way to get somebody's attention when they're telling you,

oh, it's a safe and effective vaccine, is to ask them, what happens if you're injured with the safe and effective vaccine? Where are you going to get compensation? And then when they realize that you have to go to countermeasures injury compensation program, which is a black hole that doesn't compensate anything because it's unfunded, then they realize

that it's a countermeasure. It's not a vaccine. And so that's what everyone runs into when they try to get compensation for now they're disabled in the wheelchair or their child is in the wheelchair. Well, guess what? They get nowhere.

Or they try to sue Pfizer under false claims act or let's say the Texas attorney general and Kansas attorney general, they sued Pfizer in state courts for marketing violations and they get dismissed because PrEP Act preempts the constitution, preempts your constitutional rights, preempts state rights, preempts everything. There's only one court, DC District Court, and it's kind of like a tribunal where you can sue somebody, but you have to actually prove in a very high bar, you have to prove that vaccine was caused death or injury. You have to do it within pre-specified window of time and you still get dismissed. A CHD, Ray Flores, was trying to sue DOD

using this method for death of a student, 24 year old healthy student who was mandated to get vaccine for college and died. of a student, 24 year old healthy student who was mandated to get vaccine for college and died. And it's proven that he died because of the vaccine and the defendants are not denying that he died because of the vaccine, but the case is dismissed because of PrEP Act. They're covered persons covered countermeasure.

No liability. Can PrEP or is PrEP, two last questions. Is PrEP or can PrEP be modified or repealed or still have something in place where we can have something in dire circumstances without this? Number one, and then number two, have you spoken directly with RFK Jr. about all this? The last time I've spoken directly to RFK Jr.

about PrEP Act was a couple of years ago. I was on his podcast and we've discussed it's called Militarized Health Care. We've discussed it as license to kill. He agreed with me, he's even on video saying this. He now it's in his authority to at least terminate the declaration. He cannot repeal of this is the prep act

that requires Congress, but he can remove the declaration. And once he removes the declaration, farmers can no longer ship these products. In fact, in their contract, in their military, in their military contract- Is there anyone in Congress who's sympathetic to repealing it? Possibly, there may be one, well,

so there may be a handful of people in the house in Congress, in the Senate it's maybe only two, maybe Rand Paul and Ron Johnson, I don't know actually what their position is. I had spoken to Ron Johnson about it a while back. But we need congressional support. In fact, my colleague Catherine Watt Watt published quotes at the time when this prep act was passed in the middle of the night on Christmas Sunday of 2005 by Republicans, by the way, Democrats, senators Biden, Clinton, Ted Kennedy and Byrd objected very strongly

to this prepP Act provision, explicitly calling it unconstitutional, citing how it is unconstitutional, saying that this gives a ridiculous amount of liability protection to the pharma companies and serves no public interest whatsoever. And then all of them voted yes. So... But worse yet, as somebody in the Defense Department

got in their ear, but worse yet, I mean, yes, that's the party that used to worry about protecting our civil liberties. And they're the ones that also took this thing and ran with this. I just, I don't know what to do with anybody anymore. So listen, Sasha, I got to wrap this up. As always, enlightening, packed with information,

just like your Substack and your X feed, it's Sasha underscore Latipova. And where can they go to get the Substack? So my publication on Substack is due diligence and art, or you can search for my name, SashaLatypova.substack.com. And as I, when Sasha and I were talking off the air, I said, God is not fair. He gives certain people too much, too much horsepower, too much artistic ability.

And Sasha is one of those people that has, I've got another friend, or somebody I've interviewed several times, named Indris Viscontis, who's a, I don't know if you know Indris, she's a neuroscientist, and she's a musician and puts on operas. And I'm like, not fair.

It's not fair, too much. Too much. But yeah, you paint all the, and those are great paintings. So click through on her website. So, all right. We appreciate you being here and I hope you keep us updated on things as they come along. And if I can help you get through to Senator,

to Secretary Kennedy, I'll do my best to do so. It seems like something's gotta be done. And he must be thinking about it. He must be thinking about it, it has to be. I'm pretty sure he's thinking about it. Reminders help, yeah. Thank you. And if he's not, I would like him to,

if he's not sort of inclined to take action, I would like to know why. I would like his reasoning. So I'll see if I can get that if nothing's happening. All right, talk to you soon. Thank you for being here. Thank you so much. All right, what we're gonna do, you got it.

We're gonna take a little break and then we're gonna take, we have my second guest who has got an interesting story of government overreach as well, who got caught in the web of what was generated from what Sasha's talking about. It is Connie Shields. You can follow her on a Substack,

which is unlockalberta.substack.com. Maybe Alberta will be our next state, who knows? Anyway, I'm just kidding. We're going to hear from people that support us, and I want you to support them because they're all really, really good and we are fortunate to have them. We'll be right back to this.

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Connie, welcome to the program. I want to hear your story. Well, it's a, it's a bit of a nightmare rather than a story. So I got involved. Well, you got, you got all this stuff that Sasha was just talking about. I think you got ensnared in it. Absolutely. And she's 100% right about this is actually, this is the avian flu issue, which really is COVID 2.0 because it's the exact same that they're using, exact same.

And in fact, Joel Slotten, the lunatic farmer, that's what he's labeled it as, COVID 2.0. So yeah, I got caught up in that. Well, there's an ostrich farm in Edgewood, BC, which is just one province over from me. And they had birds that were getting sick in December. But they had seen this same illness in 2020 and the vet had diagnosed it as pseudomonas. So when they saw the symptoms again here in December, they assumed it was pseudomonas and started treating them for it. Called the vet, but the vet was on holidays.

Anyways, CFIA gets involved. That's the Canadian food inspection agency. Which needs to be pointed out. These birds have absolutely nothing to do with food chain. They are research birds that work with the University of Japan with a doctor there

and they are producing antibodies from the eggs. So they have secured antibodies for COVID-19, for H5N1, the oils are used antibodies from the eggs. So they have secured antibodies for COVID-19 for H5N1. The oils are used for skin skin diseases. They've been treating psoriasis. There's all kinds of things that these antibodies and whatnot from the eggs are producing. Anyway long story short a I call her

Mrs. Kravitz, a neighbor in the area contacted the CFIA saying that there was some dead birds. The CFIA contacted the farm and they explained the situation. They said, well, just go ahead, have your vet come out Monday. If it looks like avian flu, then give us a call back and we'll come out and test. They showed up on Monday morning without the vet being there and they tested two of the deceased birds. Came back positive for avian flu with a PCR test and at this point they still have not released what the cycle threshold was, or the chain of custody of the tests.

Long story short, same day that it came back, they ordered 400 perfectly healthy ostriches to be, they say culled, but it's really killed. Because if you're culling, you're taking an animal out of, out of misery and euthanizing it. That's not what this is. This is literally killing 400 healthy ostriches. Healthy ostriches that are producing antibodies that could be the answer to,

well, and this is the key part, be pathogens of pandemic potential. And that's why the government really wants them killed because you can't step on big farms toes. So during COVID there was the doctor in Japan, he was making masks that were embedded with these antibodies for COVID-19 and he was able to show that it it actually neutralized the COVID-19 virus whatever that was. And then there was some trucking stuff too you got you got involved with? Oh well that's how I first got into all the activism. I'm a retired dental hygienist.

When I left dental hygiene I got into all the activism. I'm a retired dental hygienist. When I left dental hygiene, I got involved in the trucking industry. And when Trudeau called us the small fringe minority with unacceptable views, that's when I put my foot down and said, yeah, well, you're going to hear more and more of those views. And now in this case, what's really funny about the attention that is the lawyer for the Canadian Food Inspection Agency used almost the identical terms. She said there is a small subset of people who hold beliefs, certain beliefs about herd immunity, as though natural immunity is not a real thing and that's

their so their whole policy is that the minute there's a positive H5N1 test done the order is immediate you kill them all but what's interesting I've been going through so I put a lawyer's hat on through all of this and been digging through all of their their information that they've put out. In fact, it's in court as we speak. It's the second day of the hearing right now. Going through all of their things and there's, everything happens for a reason. There's so many things in these documents that back up everything that Sasha was saying. We have, there's a health, and it's therefore health, the health field on pandemic preparedness,

what they are supposed to be doing. We also have a bill here called Bill C-293, which if this passes, it's currently in the second reading of the Senate, although Parliament's not in right now. But if it passes, it literally puts into law all of Agenda 2030. And it's all based on one health. And that's, so the Canadian food inspection agent, and you're having this happening in the US as well with all of your chickens being culled. It really has nothing to do with public health or the animal health for that matter.

It has to do with food. It's eliminating the food sources and- Well, I remember, where'd Connie go? There she is. So I remember the One Health thing. Now that One Health thing kind of got taken down, didn't it? This is the World Health Organization's

sort of long, long arm. I feel like the teeth got, well, no one agreed to the so-called treaty and a lot of countries opted out and most states opted out. Are they still pushing it? Oh, it's huge. And in fact, what, so the US, all of these countries follow the World Organization of Animal Health

and that organization, all of their policies are built on One Health, on the One Health agenda. In Bill C-293 here, everything that they say in this bill is coming off of the One Health agenda. And right in the bill, it says that they're going to move us from eating meat. They're going to have their eyes on our plates that we're going to be eating lab produced proteins or alternative proteins, which is the crickets. So it is all about. What do you want people to do?

Well, we have a, if you go, it says behind me there, theywantmedead.com, you can take action there. There's a one-click politics and it allows you to go and send emails to the different bureaucrats. But if you go to saveourostridges.com, there's other things that you can do. You can help support the farm with their legal fees, which are well over a hundred thousand at this point.

And it's only begun. So they did put in the lawyer filed for an injunction and they won that. So that's what's in court right now is a judicial review. It was yesterday and all day today. If they finished today, then we're waiting on the decision. But there's also the government has put in an appeal. Well, when you're in court against the Canadian government who has a printing machine, and all the

resources that they'll ever need, it's a challenge. And these people like they've been out of work now since December. Their whole farm is under quarantine and has been since December. And it is just COVID all over again. And when you read their policies, it's absolutely atrocious. They've issued them so far $20,000 in fines saying that they've breached some of these quarantine conditions. The quarantine condition that they had was to put fencing around a pond and netting.

Well, the pond is frozen and then they were supposed to put fencing around the entire property on frozen ground. Well, the pond is frozen and then they were supposed to put fencing around the entire property On frozen ground. Well, how do you do that? And what's the purpose of it? That is one of the other things that they want Yeah Is is the is the new government going to be any way more? Rational in their approach or no far worse Okay Because mark is the king of ESG and DEI

and this whole one health is Mark Carney's playbook that's your current possibly or is he your current prime minister or possibly your president is going to become the prime minister? He is currently, he took over for Trudeau and then the election is the end of this month. So hopefully he'll be out. Listen, I look forward to reading your sub stacks. It is unlock Alberta.

Is there any place else you'd like people to go? Is your ex-feed or anything? Go ahead. Absolutely. There's preventgenocide2030.org, which is a place as Americans especially. And that was one of the things I wanted to say. I'm not sure if you're aware of the bills

that are currently in your house and in your Senate, disengaging entirely from the United Nations debacle act of 2025. And it's, so it's with my plea because that's where all of this is. We did talk to, yeah, we did talk to, what was the former secretary, former Senator? No, no, we were talking to,

and I can see her as clear as day, but anyway, she sort of alerted us to all this and has gotten a little wind of change going and some awareness and there's things being sort of, at least the eyes are opening here and there. Well, and that's at preventgenocide2030.org. You can go there and it's one click again, you just put in your address and whatnot,

and it brings up all of your representatives, and it'll send an email off to them saying, support these bills. And that is the one- Is that her name? I think that's who she was running around raising awareness about this. The all new, all electric Can-Am Pulse motorcycle is your cheat code for the city.

Light, agile and stylish for all you smart commuters. Find your pulse today. Learn more at CanAmMotorcycles.com. All right, Connie, we appreciate you being here very much. Hopefully you'll give us an update and we will look for the sub stack and we will follow you on X and it's preventgenocide2030, correct? Yeah, preventgenocide2030.org.

All right. We will go there. Thank you so much for joining us. There it is. Leelight.ca. Thank you for being here. us. There it is. Leelai.ca. Thank you for being here. All right. Thank you ever so much for helping us get this through.

You got it Connie, appreciate it. Okay, we're gonna switch gears yet again. My next guest is here with me in studio. It is Gwen Lin. In a green minute is the operation. You can follow that on XM, actually Instagram is where you should go or Facebook. She is an environmental safety scientist,

cohost of In a Green Minute. And she hosted Outdoor Wild Kids Adventure, which you can tell me more about that. Welcome to the program, Gwen. Welcome. Thank you for having me. Oh wait, Susan's got to turn your mic on. There you go. Thank you. Thank you for tell me more about that. Welcome to the program, Gwen. Welcome. Thank you for having me. Oh wait, Susan's gotta turn your mic on. There you go.

Thank you. Thank you for having me. Yeah, I am a environmental safety scientist. So I'm an environmental scientist and also a occupational health and safety scientist. So it's sort of both how to be safe in your environment. That's the easiest way that I think of it. In Outdoor Wild Kids Adventures was a great program that I served as host was

Played a scientist my little bit of acting. It's not that much But we basically had kids going out running adventures and coming back and bringing us the information I think I saw this show it was a pilot. We were trying to make it bigger Okay, fortunately, it didn't get as big as we wanted to be. But we thought it was a really good show and I had a great time. Charlene, it's funny that you're talking about the vaccines, because Charlene Hume, our director and producer, she did get COVID and passed away. Oh, no. Many of those projects went with her. But if anybody there wants to do another program, I'm willing.

Yeah, I was doing a lot of interaction with our restream where they're, yeah, I would accuse me of killing people by letting my elderly patients get vaccines. No, they'd had no reactions. They seemed to benefit from it. I worry about babies and about college-age kids. I don't see what we're doing there, but you know, think about medicine.

It's a nuanced thing. It's not one size fits all for anything. Absolutely. Occupational health, one of the things, my only interaction with an occupational engineer, I think she was, was about masks and how they work. Is that your domain also? Absolutely, we learned a lot about respirators.

To environmental scientists is what most people know. Clean air, clean water, clean soil, and then occupational health and safety. For instance, if I came into the studio now, I would do an audit. I would look at extension cords. I would look to see if there's any asbestos, any lead, any radon.

I would look to see about your indoor air quality. It looks pretty good, by the way. Well, you know, it's funny that we were worried about our indoor air quality during the fires. And we put a bunch of HEPA filters around and it made a huge difference. I mean, it was, you know, it was not good. You know, you can use HEPA filters around and it made a huge difference. I mean, it was, you know, it was not good. You know, you can use HEPA filters even,

I say HEPA for nuisance dust, this end the pollen that comes out of the air. We do, we do. And I have been really impressed because this one has all kinds of allergies. And you, when we turn those, what's that one on we have by the TV, we have some big ones.

Shoot, I can't remember the name of it, but they've been, they're very effective. I first, I was a little skeptical, but I thought, oh, this is really working. Sure, HEPA filters are really good. Also, if you can't have HEPA filters or can't afford them, you can just open the windows and have indoor plants. Indoor plants are huge because they clean the air

and they put a little bit of oxygen back in. Nice. Too much work. That's too much work. In the plant, I'm bringing a plant in next time I think. And forget about it. And during all, again, all the, when I was thinking about environmental safety

was during COVID, and people were saying that planes were particularly safe because of the filtration. Was that mythology or was that partly true? No, well, I'll say yes and no. They do have their own indoor air filtering system and it is supposed to be quite good, but what happens when the guy next to you coughs?

Yeah. Okay. So we all think about that. So if you have your mask, preferably an N95 or better, maybe a K95, you put that on. Me, I flew yesterday and I felt fine, but you do worry about it. Yeah. And so my position, and you tell me put that on. Me, I flew yesterday and I felt fine, but you do worry about it. Yeah, and so my position,

and you tell me if this is just wrong, has been if somebody wants to protect themselves or others with a mask, they should be doing a properly fitting N95 mask. Period, end of story. Correct. Otherwise, aren't they wasting their time? Correct, and as an industrial hygienist,

we do do fit testing. So, especially during COVID, I saw a lot of people walking around. I was like, well, at least a cloth mask, if that's all you can get. I saw a lot below the nose. Right. I saw N95s with a jet going to the glasses,

their glasses steaming up. That's so good. Right, correct. Yeah. So, and people were, and they were, it was weird because they were like adamant about wearing these things and yet not wearing, never ever given any thought to wearing them properly.

I've seen the half face, which is a big, bigger, with no filters. I'm like, why do you have it on if there's no filters? You're talking about those big, those big filters. Yeah, yeah. But I typically didn't say anything because people were a little stressed out at that time. Indeed they were.

So what has got you occupied these days? We are thinking about Earth Day. Okay. People say to us all the time, what can we do to help the environment? We're concerned. We're not a scientist. What do we do? And the one thing I do tell them is, look, it's my little prop here.

There are 7 billion people on this beautiful planet. And if we did not litter, that would be a huge component to helping the planet. You've probably heard about the term fast fashion here. Can you hold that, Drew? Yeah, fast fashion? Yeah, when we buy someone's wear it once and next thing you know, it goes in the garbage.

And so I was thinking about, you're going to show me the picture. Is this in India or something? This is in Africa. It know it goes in the garbage. Yeah. And so I was thinking about, you're going to show me the picture. Is this in India or something? This is in Africa. I have my clothes, it doesn't go in the garbage. It's still in my closet. Good girl, good girl. And then she purges.

And there it goes. Yeah, I've seen and the kids run around and this thing it's crazy. And I was looking at some river in India last week or a couple of days ago was something I saw an ex was completely done with garbage and litter. Absolutely. So what typically happens,

we'll talk a little bit about fate and transport of litter. When you throw out something, whether it's a paper cup, plastic, clothing, or whatever, many times because of rain, it washes into our waterways. And this is how we end up many times with beaches that look like this. And this is how we end up in many times with beaches that look like this. Now this is Ghana, which is a country in... It's Western Africa.

Yes. Northwest Africa. And they are the third largest importer of clothing. So what they do is they take and use clothing and they're supposed to sort of repurpose it and resell it. But a lot of times that doesn't happen and it just goes right out into the garbage. And unfortunately, their beaches end up like this.

So I say, you know, to everyone, me and my friends, we were out picking up litter this morning. Keep America Beautiful. They have a great campaign for I'm sure you've seen some of their commercials for people to try to pick up 25 pieces of litter before Earth Day. When is Earth Day? April 22nd, which is next Tuesday. So if you can think of that, that would be a great thing.

Can I say something that's pet peeve for me? I hate junk mail and it just goes from my mailbox into the trash can or the recycling bin, which if it goes in the recycling bin, I can't imagine that they're actually recycling because it's all laminated and I put it in there with good faith that something happened. But I think that there should be a price to pay for mailing stuff. And when the money that they use, they should have a separate recycling bin for it. So if you want to send mail that is just going to go

in somebody's house for advertising, you should pay like triple and then pay for the recycling. There should be some type of sub charge. There's one theory, scientific theory, that we use a lot in has waste called cradle to grave. If you produce that has waste, you travel with it all the way till it goes to be properly disposed

and you pay for that disposal I think when it comes to things like junk mail even your mcdonald's wrapper things like that when you generate that package or that product or uh the Aluminum foil or whatever it is when you generate that package, especially with when it comes to uh junk mail You should have to travel with that and like you said pay for it a surcharge in it, and then maybe you'll get a lot less. If we take like McDonald's and you get your burger, if you bring that wrapper back in, maybe you get five cents off the next burger. Something like that, I would do it.

Yeah, the way we did it with bottles and cans and things like that. Well, and also like when they package stuff or you get it in the mail, you buy a box and they put it in a box and then you open the box and then there's a plastic container that you have to throw away that's what I feel like cardboard box and then I feel like cardboard recycling needs to really get a boost. I don't know that that's Amazon boxes like Amazon should pick up the boxes and reuse

them again. Exactly. You know, when one thing that we like to say is reduce, reuse, recycle. Those are our three mantras, reduce, reuse, recycle. Recycling has taken us decades to get people used to it. Some still for it. Even if you do it a little bit, something like 1% of all things get recycled, but I'll take that 1% as a jumping start.

We want to recycle, we want to try and reuse, but the most important factor out of all of those is reduce. Kind of like what we were talking with fast fashion. If you don't have to go out and buy. That's impossible for me, but I want to complain about the mail. If you can, if you can try to, we want to try and buy as less consumables as possible.

Cause reduce is the most important thing. Hey, let me, there's a weird thing going on in the restream. I want to address real quick. It's on a different topic. Can I have the camera straight up here? Okay. So I have a very small medical practice, all Medicare patients. Medicare pays about $35 for every 15 minutes of visitation.

That's my total practice. There are almost exclusively people over the age of 70, 80. I like taking care of elderly patients because that's who gets sick. I'm an internist, I take care of sick people. I do some of the addiction stuff on the side, I do that for free. The vaccines were given out by the county.

I did not give out the vaccine. You couldn't get the vaccine. I couldn't get it for myself or my family when I wanted it early on. It was being recommended, people had to take it in order to move around in this county and my patients took it, like everybody else. I took it because I was going to Europe that summer and I had to take it.

I took J&J, had a terrible reaction the next day. They pulled it off the market. But point is, now here's where I was interacting with my patients about boosters. They would ask me, should I take a booster? And I'd go, well, the first booster I was bought in. I was like, well, they're saying this was a three-part vaccine to begin with.

Of course, that was a lie, but okay. So I thought, well, I suppose boosting makes sense because people are still getting sick. You're not supposed to get sick. Must be needed, you need a booster. Then when the second booster came around, I was skeptical. I told patients I could not necessarily recommend it

because I'm not sure what we were doing. And then when the third booster came around, I was saying, no, I don't think you should do this because I don't know what we're doing. The booster is for a completely different variant that's out there and I don't know what we're doing. And I've had grave concerns about children getting it and college-age kids getting it from the doing. And I've had grave concerns about children getting it and college-aged kids getting it from the beginning.

And I've been gravely concerned about the mandates generally. So that is my position. Of all the hundreds of patients of mine that chose to get the vaccine, one had a reaction. She insisted on taking multiple boosters in spite of my recommendation. And she had atrial fibrillation within an hour of a booster.

She was a hundred years old. She almost died. She wouldn't go to the hospital. She had me manage her at home, which I successfully did. And she made it through because I was managed her very carefully. Do I think she should have had that booster? No, absolutely not.

So it's a complicated thing. So there you go. Sorry about that. Cause there's all this craziness going on on the restream and it takes a little bit of explaining to do Okay, so One of the reduce our trash. Yes, one of the one of the great scenes I thought in Mad Men was this scene where he's at a lakeside and he's having a picnic with his wife and and they have this all this garbage on the on the on the

Blanket he laid out and he stood up and takes the blanket just shakes it out and all this garbage on the blanket he laid out. And he stood up and takes the blanket, just shakes it out, and all this shit goes everywhere, all the crap goes everywhere. And I thought, oh yeah, I remember people being like that. I remember there was no concern for anything. And I remember the images of Lake Michigan filling up with garbage back in those days.

And that there was a big, we got a lot better after that era. Earth Day was part of it. I'm gonna guess it was 1968 when Earth Day started. Very close, 1970 by Gaylord Nelson. So I remember when it started. I remember the whole thing. I was in junior high school probably then,

and there was a lot of talk about it and kids were into it. And it really was a great thing. This is the first time I've heard people talk about it again sort of in a public way in a long time. So it's something that we should remind ourselves about. It seems to me, yeah. Well, that's good because almost every country that I know of celebrate Earth Day,

even if it's the one day us, we say every day is Earth Day. But if you can just go out, pick up a piece of litter. Like I said, that is the one thing we all can do. Yeah. Probably dispose of it. Styrofoam. Let's just go through some of the levels. Styrofoam.

Is this styrofoam? I brought it. No, I don't think so. I've been reusing it. I'm reusing it. That's what I do with paper cups. I try and reuse them as much as possible. Even plastic I try and reuse.

But they say never, but it takes about a couple hundred years for that to degrade in the landfill. A regular paper cup, even though this is reusable, a regular paper cup takes about two to six weeks in the landfill or if you compost it. So that's okay. Plastic, however, I have a couple of plastic bags. California, I don't think you guys are using plastic bags anymore. New York City, really? They give you a choice, yeah. A lot of the, well, for groceries, then a lot of the deliveries

come with plastic bags. Okay. Well, these typical plastic bags, New York City just, oops, sorry for the food. New York City just outlawed this also. These things take 10 to 20 years. You usually see them billowing out in the wind somewhere. Again, when this stuff gets littered, it goes through the waste stream, through the water stream and usually ends up in a waterways or filling up a sewer or something. I try to tell people, especially in your neighborhood, whether it's in your apartment building, your house,

New Year's stoop, which we call it in New York, wherever it is, try and keep that storm drain clean and free. Because if you don't and enough of them get clogged up, would you rather the water go to where it needs to go in the river, underground somewhere, wherever it's going, waste treatment plant, or do you want it in your living room? Nobody wants seven feet of water in their living room

to try and keep the litter away from your storm drains, because that's where it's going to end up. It's going to end up in the waterway. Tell me about this. I'm holding up, let me get a picture of this. Yes, it's an In-N-Green Minute Reusable Bag, just a little something or something. Just a reusable bag.

Just to remind ourselves to reuse something. Yes. And where, is there a website that you're working with or you want people to go to you? Well, I'm working on my website, but anybody can reach me on social media. Everything's at in a green minute. I'm on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter in a green minute, like in a New York minute

since I was reminded about my New York accent. I'm all the way from Atlanta to see you. From Atlanta, I came over to New York, New York to Atlanta, and she has a slight Brooklyn accent, or Bronx accent, and I picked it up, and I was like, oh, from New York. But no one would notice it, believe me. I'm sort of tuned into it.

And I was in a movie called New York Minute with the Olsen twins, so it's meaningful to me that they'll remember the name in a green minute. Hey, were they just kids? Were they nice? They were lovely. They were teenagers. This was their big cinematic breakout.

I played their father. Weirdly, it was just so weird. They took everybody off MTV and cast them in this movie is what happened. I was doing a show on MTV back then. And I had to go to Toronto for a few weeks and film with them. And I got to see the other sister

who was a child at the time. The dad was lovely. Particularly, I felt closest to Mary Kate. She was like really lovely. And she ended up, I mean, she's been forthcoming about her mental health struggles with this and that and the other thing. And she's always been just, I thought, an open person.

And so I got close to her. But it was a great experience. It was a really fun experience all the way around. I'm not sure that my acting performances was a cinematic triumph necessarily, but it was fun to go do it. All right, what have we left off? Have we missed anything?

Oh, there it is. There's a picture of it. Look at your screen. That's me with the Olsen twins. That's so funny. I have a change. Remember you talking about being a picture of it. Look at your screen. That's me with the Olsen twins. That's so funny. Do you remember you're talking about being a time traveler? Oh, whoa, yes, yes.

So let me do that. So I've decided that I'm going to present myself to the world more now as a time traveler. Because I just mentioned the Earth Day thing. I was there when Earth Day was invented. I remember when it all came around. But I was part of the ecology movement back in the day, which was the precursor to everything climate

and all that stuff. And I was a scientist. It was ecology science. And we had concluded that there were massive famine, that acid rain would ruin the Northeast, that our rivers and lakes would be completely choked off by algae blooms. We would have an ice age for sure.

And anyone questioning that was out of their mind because we had done the calculations and for sure that was coming. We'd lose our properties. Well, we might still all end up on a mountain top in Colorado somewhere, but we're going to survive. But my point as a time traveler is that a lot of ideas come and go.

This is one, litter has been quite consistent. It has never, it's become less top of mind, I would say, because I remember really people being very concerned about it back in the 60s and 70s. They had a lot to clean up. I would argue we have a problem here in Los Angeles in particular, maybe you can help with this. We have sort of the, you know,

the broken window situation, which is that if you allow things to deteriorate, it affects people's psyche, it affects people's community of things. And in this town, they allow, well, they don't allow it, but people dump stuff on the side of the freeway, like crazy, toilets and couches and all kinds.

And why? Because they charge them to drop stuff off at the dump in the landfill So is there something you have any ideas about that that what we can do to help people that can't afford To take stuff where it should go. It's a catch-22. I don't know if any of these things like refrigerators and toilets can be refurbished Or perhaps they can get some type of money for the actual material You know what I mean? refurbished or perhaps they can get some type of money for the actual material. You know what I mean? Kind of like cars when you salvage them, they just take the material and they,

and they give you what they can give you. I don't know if that might be it, but it might be a Johnny combo of that type of situation. I've seen the sides of these freeways and I've seen this stuff that drives me insane. It's not, it's not just, you know, uh, this, right? It's, it is this. It's also there. And I think that's the broken window problem that we don't have enough respect.

We look at the graffiti all over everything, we're like, ah, throw the cigarette butt out the window. You know what I mean? They're not motivated to keep the city clean. And that's the number one thing that's littered, tobacco products. I'm sure, I'm sure. And then number two is they don't,

they legitimately can't afford the cost of going in and dumping at the dump. They just dump on the freeway at nighttime in the weekends or on the mall hall under somewhere. You see stuff all over the place. It's wild. Yeah, yeah. I think it's going to be some type of combination.

Maybe there's some type of company out there that I guess it can help collect the stuff and refurbish and at least then get a little coin for it. Yeah, they picked it up. All right, well, listen, we do appreciate you being a part of the show today and doing your work and raising mothers and others. Well, now what is that? Tell me more about that. I am a I am the chairman

of the board along with Laura Turner and Stephanie blank for mothers and others for clean air a great little organization in Atlanta that helps schools convert to from diesel engines to electric engines. So you know, electric vehicles. So Laura Turner, you're supposed to say who's Laura Turner? Who's Laura Turner? Ted Turner's daughter. Oh, interesting.

Very nice. She's awesome to work with and a great chairperson to work with. So hopefully you guys can come out to our fundraiser. Everyone's invited. We'll talk to her about that. Tell us more about that. Yeah, I mean, because because you know, I always worry that the cities that are converting to electrical aren't doing enough to make sure the

Plants that generate the electricity are sufficiently clean. Well, we can only do but so much Yeah, right so when it happened was they noticed that there was some rising asthma rates in the city of Atlanta and the outlining suburbs. And some of the air monitoring data reinforces that also. So they said, well, let's try and get some EVA rates. Increasing particulate matter, something.

Correct. And was causing the kids to get more rates of asthma. So let's try and get these diesel engines when these kids are sitting there waiting for the school bus in the morning and the afternoon. Oh, the buses. Get them converted over to electric school buses. What about natural gas?

Is that something that would work too, or is that also? I would say so. Natural gas, I think, is burning a little bit cleaner, if you can understand, or if you can kind of look into that. We always say that nothing burns cleanly, but I think natural gas is a little bit cleaner. But that makes perfect sense. It's odd that we, well, our whole relationship with children and school buses seems odd to me.

We have the buses belching diesel exhaust into our kids as they're picked up to go into a vehicle that's wide open with no seat belts. Yeah. To fly around on these with hard surfaces everywhere. Talking about environmental safety. Well, how do we do that? Well, obviously we should have seat belts, but again, one thing at a time. Right now we're working, I think it's Bluebird buses

that are providing some of the electrical school buses there. So we're trying and that's going pretty well. Hopefully the EPA will stay on board, going through a rough patch right now, but hopefully the EPA, the Environmental Protection Agency, We'll stay on board and try and get some more branches for these school districts to be able to get more grants For these school districts to get more school buses and mothers and others for clean air. Yeah, is that a website? mothers and others for clean air.com

Mothers and others. So we need to have a shout out for hillsides again. Oh yeah. Yes, absolutely. So you came to us for cleanair.org, there it is. There it is, it looks like a great website. Check it out, environmental, there it is. Oh, that's hillsides. So hillsides, we brought it up yesterday.

They are an organization we've worked with for many, many years, supported them for many decades. They are, I just keep saying, if we could just come up with another thousand hillsides all over the country, we would do so much for the mental health of young people. They do therapeutic living environments for kids, highly skilled professionals.

And it started the turn of the 20th century. I think it was run by nuns or something like that, it's somehow a religious connection to begin with. And it just became more and more and more sophisticated in terms of what they were doing. Hill sites is a great organization. I'm, as you guys most well know, I'm a huge fan of Elton John and David Johnstone, his guitarist would talk about hill sites all the time online.

So I kind of started looking into it and saying, who are these guys? What are these guys? So I started to support them a little bit, giving a little bit to the charity. Then I wanted to get more involved. But then I said, well, what if it's a scam? Yeah, you gotta be careful. And by scam, it doesn't have to be just take your money.

It could be just not getting it where it's supposed to go. Right. And Hillside does what it's supposed to do. Trust me on that. They do. So I called Hillside and they were like, yeah, go ahead, we're a home campus. You're more than happy. We're more than happy to have you come out. So that's supposed to do. Trust me on that. They do. So I called Hillside and they were like, yeah, go in. We're a home, you know, campus. You're more than happy. We're more than happy to have you come out. So that's

what I did. I came out to Pasadena. I went to the campus. I took a tour, so are the facilities learn much more about them. They don't just help the kids, but they also help the families. And I was really into that to help the mom, the dad, whomever is the guardian of that child and help the entire family as a unit. I thought it was amazing. So I got even more in depth and thus here we are. The goal is to restore a healthy family. And some of the families are unhealthy

and some of them can't be restored. Some of the kids are from the foster system. It's complicated, but they go at all of it and they have layers and layered layers of therapeutics available and education and living environments. I just could not say enough about them. All right, it's in a green minute and it is mothers and others for clean air.

Those are the things I want you guys, everyone, to remember as we wrap up today. Gwen came all the way out here to be a part of this. She was presented to us through Hillsides and we appreciate their support to bring us, Gwen. And I appreciate Gwen for joining us and bringing her stuff. And I hope you'll all- Happy Earthy everybody.

And I hope everyone will support Gwen. Today or the day? April 22nd, Tuesday. Pick up one piece of litter. I'm pretty compulsive about stuff like that because I think it got into my head because I saw the, you know, if you're a kid in those days and you saw the transition from when we were really,

that's why that madman had seen stayed with me so much. I remember how I was grossed out from when we were really, that's why that Mad Men scene stayed with me so much. I remember how I was grossed out by what we were doing and how fast we turned it around. But we always have work to do. There's always more to do. So I'm going to hold my globe up properly. Everybody check it out. It is Mothers and Others for Clean Air

and it is in a green minute on Instagram and Facebook. And we appreciate you all being here. We appreciate Sasha and Connie for joining us today and we will see you. Let's get the upcoming guest up there. We're helping you breathe. We're helping the ostriches. And we're helping.

Well, if you caught what she was saying, the eggs are huge from ostriches and they have big white, big albumin sort of sacs and they can grow monoclonal antibodies on that. And that's what they were doing. And the fact that they took that away is just, again, I can't, I can't. Mark Ribery, dear Marl.

Chris Moritz, we have a comedian, Joe Dombrowski. Then we have Elijah Schaeffer, who will be from Florida. And Alesh, Jenny McCarthy coming in on, I've got an apology to make to her which I look forward to very much and Gary Brekka our buddy who does a lot of health hacking Gary will be here too I think I have TJ Miller next week oh for your show excellent Susan show this week is quite good if you didn't see it I suggest you you take a look at it internet by mentioning Charles Manson. So it was awesome. That show was derailed.

It took me two hours without a break. Today was good. You mentioned Charles Manson again. Alright everybody, we thank you for being here. Caleb, what's the matter? Caleb, would you say something? Ruining the stream again by mentioning Manson. I waited until the end of the show to

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