Ask Dr. Drew - Sen. Johnson's Bombshell Report: There's No "Bigger Government Scandal" Than Biden mRNA Safety Coverup w/ Brianne Dressen, Batya Ungar-Sargon & Jonathan Alpert – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 635

Episode Date: June 24, 2026

“There has not been a bigger government scandal during my lifetime,” says Senator Ron Johnson, “and yet even now that we have documented proof of corruption, most of the legacy media refuses to report on it.” In the release of his new Senate report, Sen. Johnson says he found evidence that federal health officials knew about COVID-19 vaccine safety signals in 2021 but “purposely” hid them. Sen. Johnson, Chairman of the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, alleges that in March 2021, FDA officials were briefed that their VAERS analysis algorithm would mask vaccine adverse event signals. Twenty-six days later, an updated algorithm showed 25 safety signals, including sudden cardiac death, pulmonary infarction, and Bell’s palsy. Johnson says officials ordered the analyst to “cease and desist” and told the public adverse events were “rare and mild.” Brianne Dressen, who recently met with Senator Johnson in DC, joins to discuss the severe symptoms she developed after being in one of the first US AstraZeneca trials in 2020. She is calling for a new investigation into the abandonment of the COVID-19 vaccine injured. Batya Ungar-Sargon, Newsweek opinion editor and host of “Batya!” on NewsNation, asks if going to war with Iran was worth it. Psychotherapist Jonathan Alpert, author of “Therapy Nation”, argues America has grown over-reliant on therapy culture as mental health ratings hit record lows. Brianne Dressen is Co-founder of React19. In 2020, Utah mom and former teacher Brianne joined a clinical trial of AstraZeneca’s COVID-19 vaccine — one of the first in the USA — and says she developed severe side effects. She is now a vaccine injury advocate. Follow at https://x.com/briannedressen Batya Ungar-Sargon hosts “Batya!” on NewsNation, Saturday at 4PM and 11PM Eastern. She is Opinion Editor at Newsweek and author of “The Jews & The Left” “Bad News,” and “Second Class.” Follow at https://x.com/bungarsargon Jonathan Alpert, PhD, is a psychotherapist with two decades of clinical experience. His commentary appears in The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, Newsweek, the Los Angeles Times, and the New York Post. His new book is Therapy Nation. Follow at https://x.com/JonathanAlpert 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/fatty15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/paleovalley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twc.health/drew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Executive Producers • Kaleb Nation - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • Susan Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/firstladyoflove⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Content Producer • Emily Barsh - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/emilytvproducer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Now, Senator Ron Johnson released a new report calling this the biggest government scandal of his lifetime, alleging the FDA officials were warned early in 2022, 2022 about their own VAIR system hiding COVID vaccine safety signals. And this has been suggested and confirmed and reconfirmed. The question is why and who and it's uncanny. First guest today is Brian Dresson. She joins us again. one of the first AstraZeneca trials. She was in that first trial in 2020.

And she developed a severe vaccine injury. She just got back from the District of Columbia, where she will tell us about the conversation she had with Senator Johnson. You can find her at Briann, B-R-I-A-N-E, Dreson, Dreson, D-E-S-N, just like it's spelled up on the screen here. Also, we'll be taking your calls. If you've had any issues with these vaccines, 833-3-D-R-A-W, we're happy to take those calls we go along here. Then, Achia Ungar Sargon,

who is now everywhere, thanks to News Nation, amongst other things. And she is willing to ask the tough questions, including whether or not going to war with Iran was worth it. Is it going to save the midterms? Is the MAU anything that is concerning? And she

calls herself now a quote, MAGA lefty, unquote. I want to hear about that. Then Jonathan Alpert, psychotherapist, comes back again. He is author of therapy, nation. America is hooked on therapy and a new Gallup poll shows it's made everyone more anxious and less mentally fit. We get into that after this. Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre. The psychopaths start this fact. He was an alcoholic because of social media and

pornography, PTSD, love addiction. Fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous. I'm a doctor for I say, where the hell you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals. But just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Loveland all the time. Educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat. Do you have trouble? You can't stop and you want to help stop it. I can help. I got a lot to say. I got a lot more to say. Got so many great guests today. I want to get right to Brian. Brian, welcome back. Would you mind for the audience just sketching what happened to you? I know we've been through this together. and then come back around to tell us what happened with Ron Johnson and what the senator had to say to you. Yeah, so before the pandemic, I was a healthy mother of two young kids.

It was a preschool teacher, just living my best life. And when the pandemic hit, I did everything that the mainstream told me to do. I did the social distancing. I did the masking. I even signed up for the clinical trials for the COVID vaccines to help get us all out of the pandemic sooner. Unfortunately, my trial vaccine ended in a severe injury that still leaves me with post-vaccine neuropathy. It started with pots, which is a autonomic condition where your heart can't keep up with pumping the blood up to your brain. And so it's a new phenomenon that's something, well, it's been around for a long time, but COVID actually has made this into a condition that.

is more widely understood and recognized. But unfortunately, when it's tied to the COVID vaccine, there really isn't a lot of medical recognition. Well, I mean, I don't know how people could deny it. We've seen so many cardiac arrhythmias, particularly young men, paracarditis, and pots, which is essentially a blood pressure maintenance problem. Your autonomic system is not maintaining your blood pressure normally. Caleb, I wonder, I think we played this last time.

If you play in the background, Heather McDonald on stage, bragging about having gotten the vaccines and interestingly, and then just going down and fracturing her skull, I'm of the opinion that that is exactly what happened to Bob Sagitt, but it is incredibly common after the vaccine. So here you are injured and then what were you told by the researchers? Oh, the researchers at the National Institutes of Health diagnosed me of post-vaccine neuropathy and pots.

They actually requested that we stay quiet while they research these vaccine injuries. Now, what's interesting is what the research was doing. Stay quiet. What are researchers? Oh, here's Heather. Boom. You see what happened to her. But what I want to know.

Give me one example of someone who is involved in medical research when they have an adverse event pulled by the researchers. Don't tell anybody. Don't tell anybody. That seems miscarriage of their job. I mean, that's not what I signed up for, right? Right. Right.

Worth a shot, by the way, I did not mention the book that's about you and your experience. So you, okay, so be quiet. Maybe there's something here. It's no big deal probably is what they said also. I can imagine what you were up against. And did you, I could just imagine what happened. Yeah, they really just compared us to COVID, right? And they said, oh, the long COVID patients are so much worse off than you.

We're going to give you one dose of IVIG. and it's all going to be better. And here I am right now, getting IVIG right now, because five years later, because I still need it to be able to function on a daily level. So I don't pass out anymore. It's something that is not some small transient issues that people are dealing with.

These are very serious life-altering conditions. So the only reason that you and I are having this conversation today is honestly because the government didn't do their job. had the NIH disclosed their findings to the public, I would have been able to just stay quiet and focus on my own healing, right? But because they didn't do their job, they kept us quiet. And then the FDA on the same side that with Peter Marks that Senator Ron Johnson just revealed, they were doing the exact same thing. And believe it or not, we too were having these same conversations with Peter Marks, who was head of biologics at the time at the FDA.

And he too was telling us, oh, we can't find any signals. There's nothing to see here. We're sorry, this is happening to you, but there's nothing we can do. We can't disclose this to the public. Well, Senator Ron Johnson just identified and unearthed a treasure trove of documents that show that the FDA did know about these safety signals. In fact, they knew about almost 49 severe safety signals that were not disclosed to the public in March of 2021. So if you rewind back to where we all were in March of 2021, the vast majority of the American public had yet to get their full dosing.

And at that time, the FDA was obligated to disclose these side effects to the public and the medical community. So the medical community could then provide proper intervention promptly. Now, it's crazy because you're censored. Brian, let's let's even give them the. benefit, let's even back away from that and say, the medical community could have then at least provided informed consent for patients. Forget treatment, forget protecting people, just be able to consent people with the facts. They were withheld a basic principle of the practice of

medicine, both the doctors were and the patients were, but it's on us, on the doctors for not having been able to provide that. So what did Peter Marks, so what did Dr. Senator Ron Johnson not covered. Did he uncover what Peter Marks was thinking or what the FDA discussed amongst themselves to led to these shitty decisions? Well, Senator Ron Johnson found emails. So this is documented, written format, right? Between the top scientists at the FDA that had identified these signals and they brought this whole trench of side effects to Peter Marks and said, hey, we've got some very concerning issues, right? There was pulmonary ambulatory and in their sudden death, facial paristhesia, several other conditions that would amount to

essentially pots later on. They identified all of them, and the scientist didn't just come to Peter Marks with the results once, not twice. They came with at least four or five times, saying, we need to disclose this to the public. We need to look at these signals further. And Peter Marks literally told her to cease and desist because he could not fathom that the FDA could then persist vaccine hesitancy. So this wasn't a science-based decision at all. This was all about ideology and trying to ensure that the vaccine's gotten as many people as possible. And so Peter Marks has caught flat outlying in these emails that Senator Ron Johnson found. they're complicit in censoring the doctors.

They're complicit in so much more. If you think about all the doctors that came out and they were, you know, they were pushing on this and saying, hey, I'm seeing these side effects in my office. All those doctors were censored and silenced, right?

And they still are paying the price, a very heavy price for speaking up about the conditions they were identifying in their patients. And the whole time the FDA knew. the fact that they knew, but I still don't understand their reasoning for keeping it quiet, except that they convinced themselves that the boogeyman COVID was worse and long COVID was worse. And by the way, when did you first start talking to, like, say, Peter Marks? Well, we first started talking with the NIH first, and that was in January of 2021.

And then we started talking with Peter Marks in April of 21. And that extended clear through the end of 2022. Okay. So now we're well into the Omicron where they shouldn't have been talking about long COVID the same way or even COVID the same way. It was a different illness by the time we moved into Omicron. And yet they, to this day, they maintain the same kind of weird paranoia about Omocrine, excuse me, about COVID, where there's almost a denial that the virulence of the organism dropped markedly right around then. Again, this thing that killed me is that I had some utility during Alpha and Delta might have been worth the risk.

Certainly for old people, probably worth it. For somebody your age, my God. And why did it get published in the literature about, you know, did they hide this from the original research on the vaccine? Yeah, so this study, it was bizarre, what went down at the NIH. They reassured us that they were going to publish, which is why we all stayed quiet. And when we realized that they weren't going to publish, then we started speaking out publicly, which then we were met by the White House censorship, which was directed by the Biden administration themselves. But so they finally threw the study results onto a pre-print server in 2023.

This is after we spent all of 2022 reaching out to all of the mainstream media, trying to call the NIH to account and get them to publish their findings. There was no press release issued. There was no directive provided to any medical professionals. It was just this. We're going to sneak this out onto a server, and hopefully people can find it on their own. But the results of the study were very telling. They showed that there is a significant uptick of neuropathic conditions that are emerging after vaccination at a higher rate

than COVID itself or long COVID. But it also was showing that people that receive medical recognition and medical treatment after these adverse infants begin have a dramatically higher likelihood of recovery. Only 9% of the patients that have these severe neuropathic conditions after a COVID vaccine will have their condition resolve on their own, which means that over 90% percent of these patients need prompt medical attention and the right kind of medical attention if they're going to have a chance at all at being able to return to their life that they had before they got vaccinated. I'm surprised they knew to try IVIG on you. Was there discussions

of other treatments before that? Yeah, they tried steroids with people. They also tried monocloni antibodies. against COVID or against what? Nope. Just vaccine injury. No, no, I mean, what were the monoclonal antibodies directed at? We know? It was directed at the, that's what's interesting because like you think about mechanistically

that it wouldn't work. Yeah. But they told me to go get it and I got it. And it was the best I have felt since this started was the three weeks that those monoclonia antibodies were in my system. But I do need to preface that with, I had never had COVID at that point. So it was very clear that it was exposure to the vaccine spike that was causing my problems. So you were probably one of those continued, you know, continuing to produce COVID patients and the monocon antibodies would then work against the COVID. So how do you feel now,

having talked to Ron Johnson, where do things stands? I mean, the media continues to ignore this thing. it's a it's scandalous we can't let this happen again if we ignore it you know it will happen again how do you feel about the current state well the current situation for people that have harmed i mean it's been five years for people and they are exhausted they're tired of fighting the the situation for the people that are hurt is more dire than it ever has been um there was a lot of hope infused in in these people when when bobby kennedy was elected, but there really hasn't been any movement whatsoever for people that have been harmed by the COVID vaccines. And that's why what Senator Johnson is doing is so important because he is

the guy stepping up and stepping out against all of the pressure to just move on from COVID. And he's decided, nope, I'm not going to do that. I'm going to keep pushing on this issue. And he's just like that dog on a bone. He is not letting it go. And it's. It's incredible to see him fighting the way that he is. Tell me more about your meeting with him. What would you learn? What did he learn from you? He is pulling in people from all of the health agencies questioning them and pushing them on this.

And so he's got this little bit of a truth bomb with Peter Mark's lying and his entire department covering it up. And now he's moving to push that to the CDC. to figure out who at the CDC was also involved, who at the NIH was involved. And he's just not letting it go. I bet Dr. Redfield knows where the bodies are buried. And now we have the, and he's been willing to talk about it. He says I was wrong. I did the wrong thing.

I should have spoke up. And he's been very much admire the approach he's taking. But we now have it in a subpoena to Dr. Fauci. Do you have hope that that's going to? help us understand how he, how adulterated he was and what was actually going on here? I mean, I have hope that we'll be able to expose some more, some more, you know, underhanded things that happened. I think there's been so much focus on Fauci that there's a lot of these characters that are just flying right under the radar that we really need to be looking for

because it's just like in any battle, if you take out the king, there's, you know, five, six, seven other people that are in line to replace them. You're absolutely right. I think Francis Collins has played a big, sinister role in this because he has said things that are so inexplicably, you know, I guess narcissistic would be the word. We just no sense of the right and wrong of what he's saying. And I thought, oh, this guy is capable of doing some real harm. Totally agree.

Interesting. So we came to the same conclusion. And then finally, Diverr, man. five years ago, this is where you'd be and how different, you know, and you're a preschool teacher. Now you're an expert in neuropathy. How have things changed, I guess, is the way to ask. And could you have imagined it five years ago? No. I mean, five years ago, look, I walked in and I voted for Biden on November 3rd. And then the next day, I walked into a clinic and got my shot that changed my life. So I was, it's been a wild paradigm change, not just for what

I understand about health, public health, but also politically, ideologically. I'm very grateful. Well, give me, you have two minutes. We have two minutes. Give me your new frame. I, too, have sort of awakened from my slumber in a lot of ways, and COVID taught us a lot, but it feels like you had a complete paradigm shift. So tell me how you understand things now.

It's, you know, the flow of information of the media, it don't trust it at all. I can't trust it. It's proven itself to be a massive failure and just a propaganda machine. Obviously, there's a lot of doctors out there that really, really do want to do the right thing, but they just got to get plucked out of the Matrix and start thinking for themselves again. That's a big battle that we all need to figure out how to help them along the way. But I also know that through this experience, there's incredible people out there that are really seeing the truth for what it is. they want to see this country return to what it needs to be.

And those are the connections that I'm so grateful that I have now. And I'm sure you've crossed paths with a lot of really phenomenal people through this process as well. And now we're wide awake to the truth. But in honesty, there's nowhere else I would rather be. We have to be fighting for of all things freedom. So I took for granted my entire life. and I will remember the phrase plucked from the Matrix. So you have been plucked from the Matrix.

If I had spoken to you five years ago, who would I have been speaking to? You would have been talking to someone that would have been, look, we all just need to get out of the pandemic together. We can do this, you know, like, golly je. Warm embrace of collectivism. The warm embrace. Oh, yes. Yeah.

Oh, my. goodness. Well, listen, I appreciate that you're in there still fighting. Is this something that's a daily sort of endeavor for you? You have to be part, you know, like you're an activist in a sense? All day, every day. So we started a nonprofit. It's called React 19. And we have 40,000 COVID vaccine injured Americans that are registered that are suffering every day. We're doing the job that the government is not doing, which is, you know, sitting on those calls with the, those families with their family members that are dying in the ERs and in the hospitals. We're trying to provide adequate education for the doctors to be able to even know how to

begin to treat COVID vaccine injuries. We're providing compensation. Yeah. It's been it's been a crazy endeavor, but, you know, we got to do it. Government's not doing it. Well, I'm so appreciative of your efforts. I look forward to reading the book. Again, Caleb, throw the book up the cover so people can see and really get the facts on what happened here.

Everyone is long on opinions and short on facts. And I suspect reading that book would help people really get the details about the shot, so to speak. Worth a shot is the book. Carolyn Pover, is that right? The author, P-O-B-E-R. And Brian, other than X, other places, I guess does React 19 have social media? media? Yeah, React 19 on X, on Instagram, on Facebook. Great. That's the best place that people can reach out.

I want to check with you again soon. Thanks for coming. Thank you so much. You bet. All right. We are going to switch gears. We've got a lot of show here today. Emily Barsh has been delivering extraordinary guests. Brianda's one. Our next is Bacha Ungar Sargon. You've had her before. She actually usually inspires me. She is now on News Nation. And she, it calls herself a MAGA Lefty. I want to hear about that after this. If there was ever time to be rationally ready, it is now. I urge you to consider getting one of the emergency kits from the wellness company. Because TWC has seven different kits that are

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Thank you so much for having me, Dr. Drew. It's so great to be here with you. How's the show going? I think I was on one of your first couple of weeks on the air. Everything settling in or joined doing it. The first show that I had on News Nation, and much appreciated. We've been trying to get you back ever since. And yeah, it's going great.

we're having a really good time. It's Saturday or Sunday? Which is it? So we tape it on Friday at 1230 and then it airs Saturday night and Sunday morning. I can't tape on Shabbat because I'm Orthodox. So we pre-taped it on Friday. Right. Well, I'm usually here on Fridays.

I thought it was on weekends. I'm usually not here in New York. So we should figure something out where I can come by there. Definitely. For sure. But tell you about the Magalefti. How does that work? Well, you know, to me, the left is kind of like, it's not what it is today. I think a lot of what happens on the left today is really an abandonment of the left. To me, being on the left means being for labor. And it doesn't mean being, you know, on the radical far left on social issues. It doesn't mean being anti-Zionists. And it doesn't mean leaving labor in the dust to pursue a bunch of vanity morals that make the over-credit.

old college elites feel like the heroes of some sort of, you know, morality play, which is what it's become today. And to me, left is, do you stand for labor? Do you believe that a person who puts in eight hours of hard work a day should be able to achieve the American dream? And to me, like, that's the Trump agenda, certainly on the economic front in a sentence. The left wants us to lean into American decline and this idea that people need a minimum wage because they're going to be making $15 an hour for the rest of their life. Like this is there being pro-labor, which is like a horrifying thing to pitch as a platform, right?

It's to say basically we cannot have a thriving working class. We need an indentured servant cast of illegal labor because nobody would want to do these jobs for these wages. I find that deplorable, whereas Trump says no. We can create an economy through tariffs, through policing the border and mass deportations, in which labor is rewarded more for hard work. And so working class people can achieve the American dream. I like to think of it more as middle or working class when I think about these things.

And I don't know if you saw Elon Musk today predicting a 10x growth in the economy as his optimist three robots come online. It's not going to be great for labor. You know what I mean? But it may be great for people if they find ways to engage in the economy, which is not sort of traditional. Do you have any thoughts on that? Do you think he's right? Do you think he's threatening things? Should we be scared or should be optimistic? I think one of the things Trump really understands well is the difference between wages and GDP. The GDP growth on its own is not enough because it gets concentrated at the top. That's what happened under Obrose. Obama and Clinton is they kind of leaned into this idea that it didn't matter if, you know, 20%, the top 20%, with all of their fancy degrees, were hogging the American dream and, you know, 60% of the GDP as long as that number was going up. And I don't see things that way. I think that working class people, the people who work with their hands for a living who work the hardest, should be able to afford a home. And, you know, my dream is to get back to an economy in

which the mom can stay home and raise the kids if she wants. You know, you can make it on a single income, which is pretty much impossible right now. And to me, that is the whole point of the Trump economic agenda. Interesting. And I guess we should circle around to the topic that gets you all the heat, which is the memorandum of understanding. Is that what they call it? MOU. And I guess the bigger question from your perspective, not only does that have some weaknesses, in it. But should we have gone to war in the first place and is it going to potentially destroy the Trump presidency through the midterm? It's a great question. I think it's a very flawed MOU. I think that we won the war,

but Iran has clearly won the negotiations. I think Iran came out of this stronger than they were when we went in. And it gives me no pleasure to say that. It is so painful to me to admit that. But I think it's true. And so I have to say it, that's my job. I'm a journalist. I think before this whole operation in February, I don't think it ever would have occurred to the Iranians. They get away with charging tolls on the Strait of Formuz. And now I think there is no universe in which they don't start doing that in, what is it, 57 days now, because they know no one will stop them because they were able to bring the great United States. to its knees with a few minds.

And I find that really hard to stomach, but to me, that's really what the MOU represents. Is the rush to a suboptimal MAU, MOU, just sort of frame it that way, a desire to get on with politics, so he doesn't have to suffer defeat in the midterm? Yeah, I mean, I think his desire to get out when it became clear, it was not going the way we wanted, stems from no way. sentiments, you know, he wants a great economy. You know, he wants to be loved for having a great economy. That's a good thing, you know? It's just if we were going to get out this way, we should never have gone in. And I think that there were some, you know, mistakes made along the way. It's very clear now that they did not prepare for the closing of the Strait of Form moves, which is just an utter strategic failure. And our great military crushed it. They crushed the

assignment. They crushed Iran's military in two weeks, which is incredible, which makes this all the more bitter a pill to swallow. But it feels like Trump's trying to stay focused on his objective, which is no nukes for Iran. Did he not achieve that? Or are we going to have no way of knowing? You know, Vice President J.D. Vance keeps holding up these promises from the Iranians, like he thinks he deserves some sort of metal for getting the exact same garbage promises that Obama did. You know, he came out of there and said, very proudly, like, this has been such a success. They have allowed nuclear inspectors to come back into the country. And it's sort of like, congratulations.

You're 50% of the way back to the JCPOA that you so ostentatiously tore up. Right. What is the answer? Do you have any sense? I mean, I feel a little, let me just qualify by saying it's, of course, a terribly unfair question. But I just feel like I can't know, first of all, I can't rely on anything in the media except maybe yourself. And I don't know anything about what's factually true. It becomes hard for me to make a decision or even an assessment of what's going on there.

Do you have some way of making an assessment? And what is it? I think the Iranians are the biggest liars in the international community. They know that. But they know that everyone knows that. Not only that, that it's a well-established, my understanding, is military tactic that that group has used for 2,000 years, right? And so it's considered valorous to lie and to, you know, dupe your enemy. But does that, is that the end of it then?

They have to be just totally wiped out. We can't do any business. You can't have them existing. If they lie, just know they're liars and then act accordingly. I think that the move is to slowly build up resistance to the straight-of-horm moves by investing in other routes and other pipelines. Right. So that when we do, God forbid, have to do this again, the shock to the system is not so great.

I mean, the thing is, Dr. Drew, I mean, we were paying $1 more a gallon of gas and we couldn't handle it. Right? And, you know, in some ways, that's good. You know, America is at such a place. Our people are so secure that that $1 of gas, you know, a gallon, you know, a gallon was, you know, worth saying, you know, what, forget it. Just let them do whatever they need to do.

But on the other hand, I worry very much about the signal that that sends to China, our real adversary. I don't think it's a good one. And especially because to me, when they were selling this Iran operation, it seemed to me like it really was about China. It was about showing our dominance, our energy dominance.

It was about restoring the petro dollar. And now that seems to me to have been utterly undermined. But I really hope I'm wrong. And people are very mad at me on the right for saying this. I don't want this to be the case, but it is my job to 100% speak the truth as I see it just as I did when I was praising Trump's economic decisions and his tariffs. Like that is, it's both my constitutional right as an American and it's my constitution

as an American. I cannot stand. I find it humiliating to be asked to accept a lie as truth, which is why I left the left, because the entire edifice of the left is built on forcing people to pretend that things that are lies are true. And I just, I will not do it for the right, just like I refuse to do it for the left. Usually you, when I talk to you, I get inspired in a positive direction. But I'm inspired differently today. I'm inspired by your pursuit of the truth and the freedom to speak the truth, which is really one of the fundamental tasks of this time, which is so odd to me, but here we are. I hope you don't ever have to live in California or anybody who is distressed by the $1 increase in gas prices because we have a $2 tax on our gas. And so

the $1, we barely noticed it because we were already at $7 or $8. I can't even keep track. You can't keep track of it in California. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. And yet we suck it up there constantly. So the NGOs can be supported by our tax dollars on those On our gas pumps, it does nothing for anybody except kill more homeless people. So let's go talk about the midterm for a second. How do you imagine this is going to, presumably he's going to start focusing his attention on the midterm now. How's it going to play out?

I think the Republicans have a great shot. I don't know why everybody's so doom and gloom. I really do. You know, the redistricting went massively in their favor. the economy is going to be roaring again come November. And that's what people are going to notice. Nobody's going to remember this. Nobody is going to remember this.

People are going to have money in their pockets again. Before the operation in Iran, wages were outpacing inflation for the first time in years. People had money in their pockets. And I think part of why Trump had to sort of cut and run, in my view, is because people did feel betrayed. They felt like he promised them that they were going to have more money. That's why they voted for him. And because of Iran, they didn't have more money. Food is much more expensive because of the gas prices.

So I think people felt betrayed. And I think he is going to be able to reverse that pretty quickly. You know, I think what's probably going to happen is there's going to be something of a stalemate with the Iranians. You remember, the JCPOA negotiations went on for about two years. So I could envision something like that happening. It will be interesting to see how the Trump administration responds when, you know, in 57 days, they start charging tolls on her moves. But hopefully we've gotten a head start on redirecting oil.

Remember, we're a net exporter of oil and gas. And something I don't understand why the president didn't do is put a cap on gas and oil exports. I mean, just flood the domestic market with gas. And the cost would drop because of the ironclad law of supply and demand. I just don't understand why he didn't do that. I mean, Chevron, these oil companies, they're raking in billions off this war. And I think that would have helped a lot. I want to go back around to something.

I don't think I heard you comment on, but I brought up, which was Elon Musk's not just rosy predictions, but sort of extraordinary predictions about an economic future within the next five years. First of all, did you hear him talking about that? And B, do you adhere in any way to what he's predicting? I didn't, but I don't. I'm very bullish on human labor because I'm very bullish on humanity. you know, I went to get physical therapy for a tricky knee.

And my physical therapist said to me, you know, pretty soon I'm going to be replaced by a robot. And I was like, people don't come to you, you know, for the back and forth of the knee. They come to you to have a human touching them. You know what I mean? And I feel that way about a lot of things. I think that AI will enhance productivity. I don't think it's going to be replacing as much labor. A hilarious thing happened, which is that a company recently forgot to put a limit.

on client use of Claude and ended up with a half a billion dollar bill, which is so funny because they fired all these people in order to use AI. Turns out AI is more expensive than humans. Wow. Wow. Am I getting charged every time I use Claude? Is that happening? I think for the higher levels, you get, you know, you got to pay for it.

Yeah, Drew, that's why we turned off the feature that automatically adds credits. Because I can literally ask Claude like four complicated questions a day and it maxes out my limits. And I have to wait until like five o'clock in the evening. Is that going to happen? Is that what the thing I'm on? Am I getting charged? I don't even know it. No, you're just going to play the monthly.

We had it turned off. So it won't automatically just add credits if you start going over your limits. It'll limit you. Wow. That is interesting how they could on the DL just catch us because we get you so used to using this stuff. Well, I don't understand the, I mean, I am. understand, but I don't, would the word be? I don't think it's appropriate to have a panic. The AI has become the latest climate panic, it seems to me. Like they, like they, for some reason,

we have shifted our personality constructs in such a way in this country in particular. We have to have a panic. We have to be hysterical all the time. So they, we've gotten, you know, we've, forgotten about what, you know, the, was being predicted for climate change. Now we're going over to AI where it's going to destroy everything. And anything that even looks like AI upsets people. I don't understand that.

I understand it, but I don't think that's appropriate at all anymore than the, I thought the climate thing to be so panicking about it was appropriate. I will say something that I feel, I wish more people could take advantage of is Shabbis. So Orthodox Jews log off. starting a sundown Friday for 26 hours. There's no AI.

There's no phones. It's always the 90s on Shabbas. If you want to see your friends, you've got to walk over and knock on their door. And we spend 26 hours eating and drinking too much with friends and praying and reading. I read like six novels, you know, in the span of, you know, a month. Because like, Shabbas is really long in the summer. And it's just incredible. And I just wish more people would.

It's such a superpower for the, younger generation because they get used to looking things up in books to resolve their disputes instead of asking chat GPT. Like there's always one day a week where they have to do that. And I just feel like Shabbas is the answer to everything. You know, Charlie Kirk wrote a book about it. And it's, it really is the answer to everything. Or just put your phone down for 24 hours.

You can still use elevators. But if you just put the phone down, it make it a huge difference. I mean, just start with two hours. you know. Yeah, yeah, that's God's God's truth. All right, Baja, what's coming up on your show? Where do you have people to find you? Tell me a little more.

So I have a substack, Bataata dashus.com. Today I had a debate with Andrew Colvitt from Turning Point USA, who I adore. We debated the war in Iran, and it's ending in this memorandum of understanding. It was pretty spirited, and I am so grateful to him for that. So check out my substack. And yes, my News Nation show, 7 p.m. Saturday night, Sunday. morning 11 a.m. I'd be jazzed if you tune in. Keep up your spirited debates, my dear. Thank you so much for joining me.

I'm inspired by you by so many different ways. And this, I'm not so, yeah, no, no, no, I'm not. It's, you're just, you're inspiring and continue to be so pleased. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Right back at you. God bless you and protect you. Bye. You got it. All right. We're going to switch years yet again now and talk to Jonathan He is a psychotherapist, an author of Therapy Nation. There's been some new data that suggest a shocking we are less well from a mental health standpoint. In spite of a lot more therapy talk, a lot more therapy deployment, a lot of psych-speak. And it is not making us better humans or happier humans or that after this.

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You can fire Dr. Alpert at Jonathan Alpert, the Jonathan is A-N-N-A-L-P-E-R-T, Jonathan Alpert, Jonathan, welcome back. Thanks, Dr. Drew. Thanks for having me. So here we are. There's growing awareness of sort of, you know, psychopathology and the terminology around it and people are kind of using psychotherapeutic services and yet we're less well. What are your thoughts? Yeah, imagine that. We have access to more therapy than ever before,

yet rates of anxiety and depression and other mental health issues are higher than ever. So you have to wonder, why is this the case? There are more therapists out there, more people are able to access therapy. But look around. Therapy speak is everywhere, and that's part of the problem. We have therapists that are labeling every ordinary life experience as pathologic. So if someone goes to a therapist and they're having a bad day, or even a bad week, therapists have a tendency to label them as depressed or, you know,

if someone has a, say, a bad fight with a boss or a colleague, suddenly they have PTSD. So I think my profession is largely responsible for what we're seeing play out and certainly consistent with those numbers. You're tilting at ordinary misery. That ordinary misery, the challenges of life are actually good. They create resiliency and grit and problem solving and all these things. So, you know, sort of trying to relieve every American of any experience of ordinary misery is a fool's errand in terms of being able to do so. And secondly, it's bad for people.

And I would argue that the self-esteem movement was similarly destructive. Would you agree? Yeah, I would agree. And if we pathologize ordinary life experiences, You know, what's the new normal? Are we, is the whole population sick and ill? And are we missing out on building strength and character and resilience? You know, sometimes we do need to fall in order to build that character and that strength.

Yes. Yes, the gift of failure, the gift of challenges. And, I mean, it's not fun. You know, we made the same mistake with the opioid crisis. There was a group of professionals that decided pain should not exist. in America and anyone who gets in the way of them is old-fashioned and dangerous and interested in human suffering. We're not interested in human suffering. We're interested in human growth. That necessarily requires a little bit of engagement, let's say, and sometimes misery. Yeah, yeah,

and I would argue that people aren't growing. They're staying stuck in their pathology. And for some people, a lot of people, it's become a badge of honor. And if you look online at so-called influencers, they're almost like bragging about their depression, their anxiety, their PTSD, you know, go online and you can find surveys to take to determine if you're significant other as a narcissist or borderline. So this isn't helping our society to be healthier and happier. It's actually making us sicker and it's it's really wreaking havoc on our society. So I'm reading some data that says 2025 was America's worst year for mental health in recent memory that's according to a Gallup research poll.

What is the what is the answer here? I mean, well, you give me yours and I'll share my ideas. Well, I think therapists need to change the way that they approach patients. they need to change the way that they treat patients. And the problem is that a lot of therapists embrace fragility. They're okay with labeling patients as depressed, even though they're not depressed. They're not challenging patients. I tell a story in my book, Therapy Nation, about someone who saw me, and he had lost a friend

to drug overdose. And I had suggested that he may want to, in honor of his friend, stop me to, using drugs and to work on that. And he was so offended by that suggestion. And I actually felt like it was my responsibility as a licensed therapist to make that suggestion. He was offended by that. And he told me he had never had a therapist so directly tell him he needs to stop using drugs. And Dr. Drew, you're an expert in addiction.

You know that it's not helping patients to just support the pathology and the use. but this this this is representative of what's going on a therapist will just validate and affirm to the point where they're doing a great disservice to patients well even we have this weirder thing which is there's this capture of training mental health training where the frame is if somebody's been colonialized and they're therefore a victim and therefore everything that their experiences through this lens of

colonialismization, which is just shocking. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it is shocking. And in my book, I talk about grad schools and how they're turning out social justice warriors first and maybe clinicians second or even further down the line. So people aren't learning the basic skills of how to diagnose and how to treat mental health disorders. I think that I think we, should be encouraging people to stay away from people like you and me unless they are having

unless they're dangerously ill or they're having trouble functioning i would say if you can't function a relationship you can't function at work you're you're you really are some things are breaking down because of your mental health well then by all means come visit us but otherwise i think people should be focused on how to live a good life uh and you know how do you go about that and not be expecting that necessarily to be something that is handed to you or happens overnight, but that is the process of engagement. It just seems to me that that would help a lot of our ills, but we just are so narcissistic, you refuse to do that.

Yeah, I agree with you. And therapy has become a lifestyle for some people, for a lot of people. And if you go back to 2012, I wrote an op-ed piece for the New York Times called In Therapy Forever Enough Already. And in that piece, I talked about how patients weren't getting better. What I was witnessing and seeing in my colleagues, they were keeping patients in therapy forever, whether it's a year, five years, 10 years, two decades. It was endless. And people were just going in every week, venting, getting things off their chest, which can be helpful. But that shouldn't be the end goal of therapy.

But that's what was going on. And I know people who have been in therapy for multiple decades, they've spent a fortune, and they're no better off now than they were when they started. They can recite every pathology in the DSM. They're probably better versed at it than I am, but they're no healthier. They're sicker. And you also have to look at how much. Go ahead, finish your thought.

Then you give me advice for patients to know if they're stuck in a situation. they should be. Yeah, yeah. I think in some ways you have to look at therapy, your relationship with a therapist, the way you may look at other relationships with service providers in your life. If you were going to a fitness trainer and you weren't getting in shape and gaining strength, would you continue to go back? If you were going to a hairstylist and you didn't like the cut, would you continue to go back? So, I think people need to ask themselves, you know, what is the goal of therapy? What is it that they hope to accomplish and evaluate that. You monitor success and progress throughout treatment, maybe do a check-in every month or two, and see if they're getting any closer to those goals.

And if you're not, you may have to change something about yourself, your motivation, or it could very well be the provider that you're seeing. Are there any sort of general rules that to pertains to those goals? In other words, obviously, if somebody that has control functioning, restore function. But are there sort of things that people should be thinking about in terms of generating their own goals for treatment? Yeah, and a question that I like to ask patients, usually in the first session,

imagine your life one year from today. If it's the way it is now, are you okay with that? And it's a good question to help to get patients to think about the future and what is that they actually want to accomplish and where do they see themselves a year from now. And I think people who are consumers of therapy can ask themselves that and maybe reevaluate their relationship with therapy. It doesn't need to be a lifelong, lifelong relationship that they have. Yeah.

I mean, you're actually suggesting something that doesn't often get brought up in therapy, at least in the initial phases, which is changing your life. Yeah, imagine that concept. Well, that's kind of what I'm saying, too. If you're leading a good life, you know, nourishing. But again, we've lost track of what that is in this country. So people are bewildered by even the notion of it. Yeah. And in my book, I talk about, you know, you can think of therapy,

almost like the way you would think about seeing a physician for an annual wellness check. If you're doing okay, you could probably do a check-in once a year or a few times a year and just to make sure you're staying on task and have a healthy lifestyle. But way too often therapists are encouraging misuse and overuse of therapy. Well, listen, I appreciate you being here and bringing up these issues. Let me ask my last question really is Trump derangement real and what is it? I've been asked that question a million times and I get the same answer. It's not in the DSM.

I'm not so sure we'll ever see it in the DSM, but from what I see as a therapist who practice is in New York and D.C. and throughout the East Coast, there's a real pathology. I've seen people who are hyper fixated on Trump. They're highly anxious. They're angry. It's affecting their life. So that is pretty consistent with other mental health disorders that do exist. You know, I talked to a couple of psychologists. One guy was a quant and she was more of a psychotherapist. And they had documented this one phenomenon. I don't know if you agree with this, that people with something we're calling Trump derangement have a difficulty with external locus of control. They can't locate their stuff inside themselves and it's all out there and he's the boogeyman that's creating everything for me.

And on top of that, you know, I always think in terms of people that really get triggered by him, there's nothing more triggering to a narcissist than another narcissist. So it makes me almost wondered diagnostically, people that really get upset about him. Are we saying something about you? Yeah, you may be on to something. And people have asked me, well, what about Biden derangement syndrome? And it's a great question to think about. And I've never had a patient who, yeah, I've never had a patient who wanted Biden or Harris dead. They didn't wish for it.

They didn't root for it. Yet I see it on the other side. And that's a real pathology. If you're actually wanting someone dead that you don't even know. You know, it's interesting. If I think about my own relationship with, say, Biden, Biden made me feel frightened because I could see, I know what that is, those neurodegenerative disorders are. I know what's going on there.

I can see it, you know. And my thing was, who's in charge? What's going on here? How do we? I mean, that is so scary to me to look at the captain of the ship and go, well, he's, I know that person not in shape to do this. Who's doing it? What are they?

Should I trust them or not trust them? that's more of a well of course I already have an anxiety disorder so maybe it's part of that already yeah but you're not staying up at night for that probably no I'm not saying up night I'm not wishing him demise I'm wishing truth I'm wishing their openness and truth but forgive me and but the last part about the trump derangement though I've noticed is there's so much projection out there these days I mean any disavowed emotions or feelings about the self get slapped onto other people and they have no idea they're doing it. Yeah, I mean, there's so much moral reasoning going on, so much judgment.

If someone votes for a Republican, they're evil, they're part of MAGA in these people's minds. And long gone are the days where a Republican and a Democrat could be friends, can be friends or enjoy dinner together. In my own life, I've had people look at me a little strange just because I appear on Fox. even though my message has always been, friends and family should come far before politics. So even despite me saying that, they still take issue with my appearances.

I think friends and family before politics is a great place to stop here. Jonathan will look for you on X. Jonathan Alpert, Jonathan Alpert. Is it dot com also? Yes. Yes, Jonathan Alpert.com and at Jonathan Alpert. And then pick up Therapy Nation and read more. about this. We'll talk to you soon, no doubt. Thank you.

Yeah, thanks a lot, Dr. Drew. Nice to chat with you. You bet. Take care. All right. Coming up, Caleb, what do you have for us there? Let's get them up on the screen and see what it is. Justin Hart, Dr. Van Watson's in tomorrow. The physician that first documented that the lot of vaccine had more to do with the adverse events and many other things, Damien Eccles, Eric Mattson. Paxis, John, Dr. Gantanis.

A lot coming up. I thought I saw, it's probably just too much on the screen right now, but I think we have Salty Cracker coming back and other favorites. And we will look forward to talk to you tomorrow at 4 o'clock Pacific time. I've got to run out and do Finnerdy, which is always fun. I really enjoy him and that show. And you can look for me on Thursday at on the Gutfeld show. And because of that, we're going to do a show at,

Noon Pacific on Thursday. Is that correct? I'm checking right now. Let's see. Yes, noon Pacific on this Thursday. Yeah, that's correct. But tomorrow is 4 o'clock Pacific time. We'll see you then.

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