Ask Dr. Drew - Special Forces TELL ALL: Kate Gosselin, Remi Adeleke & Montell Jordan Face World’s Toughest Test – Ask Dr. Drew – Episode 166

Episode Date: January 14, 2023

Remi Adeleke is a former Navy SEAL who fought human trafficking and organ harvesting rings – the underground industry of human slavery that generates nearly $30 billion in profits per year. Kate Gosselin is a TV personality, bestselling author, registered nurse & mother of eight kids (twins and sextuplets). Remi and Kate appear with Dr. Drew on the FOX series “Special Forces: World’s Toughest Test” airing Wednesdays 8/7c. ABOUT REMI ADELEKE Remi Adeleke spent his childhood as Nigerian royalty, until the death of his father and the stripping of his family’s wealth sent Remi and his mother to a life of poverty in the Bronx. But after a journey of personal transformation, Remi is now an author, filmmaker, and father. Remi is the author of the upcoming book “Chameleon” available in 2023. His movie “The Plane” premieres on 1/13: https://youtu.be/M25zXBIUVr0 Follow Remi at https://www.instagram.com/remiadeleke and https://twitter.com/RemiAdeleke ABOUT KATE GOSSELIN Kate Gosselin and her family were featured in two successful American reality television series on TLC “Jon and Kate Plus 8” and later “Kate Plus 8.” Both series focused on the challenges and joys of raising eight children, including twins Cara and Mady, and sextuplets, Alexis, Hannah, Aaden, Collin, Leah, and Joel. Gosselin is the author of two New York Times best selling books “Multiple Blessings” (2008), “Eight Little Faces” (2009) followed by “I Just Want You To Know” (2010). She is also a cookbook author. Gosselin has made a number of guest appearances including participation as contestant on ABC’s “Dancing with the Stars,” “Celebrity Apprentice” and she has also co-hosted several episodes of “The View.” Follow Kate at https://www.instagram.com/kateplusmy8/ 「 SPONSORED BY 」 • BIRCH GOLD - Don’t let your savings lose value. You can own physical gold and silver in a tax-sheltered retirement account, and Birch Gold will help you do it. Claim your free, no obligation info kit from Birch Gold at https://birchgold.com/drew • GENUCEL - Using a proprietary base formulated by a pharmacist, Genucel has created skincare that can dramatically improve the appearance of facial redness and under-eye puffiness. Genucel uses clinical levels of botanical extracts in their cruelty-free, natural, made-in-the-USA line of products. Get 10% off with promo code DREW at https://genucel.com/drew 「 ABOUT the SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. 「 GEAR PROVIDED BY 」 • BLUE MICS - Find your best sound at https://drdrew.com/blue • ELGATO - See how Elgato's lights transformed Dr. Drew's set: https://drdrew.com/sponsors/elgato/ 「 ABOUT DR. DREW 」 For over 30 years, Dr. Drew has answered questions and offered guidance to millions through popular shows like Celebrity Rehab (VH1), Dr. Drew On Call (HLN), Teen Mom OG (MTV), and the iconic radio show Loveline. Now, Dr. Drew is opening his phone lines to the world by streaming LIVE from his home studio. Watch all of Dr. Drew's latest shows at https://drdrew.tv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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please contact Connex Ontario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Hey, everybody. Welcome to this program. Very special show today. We're doing a little debriefing from the cast and staff of special forces if any of you saw that last night uh we'll be out on twitter spaces as well i'm looking at you all there rami adeleke is with us again uh he has an extraordinary story and he's one of our more uh

demanding staff members i guess i'll describe r smiling. You can't see it, but I can. Check out the unexpected short film. It's got picked up as a feature film and also the plane movie drops on January 13th. And we're going to talk about his new book. We've got Keijo Ware as well. You've got a lot of stuff to talk about with Remy. And of course, Kate Gosling joins us and she needs no introduction. You guys all know Kate. And we have a very special guest. Montel Jordan now enters the show as well. He's joining us. We're going to talk about those of us that left the program, what you didn't see and what happened after we left. And of course, Remy will offer us some thoughts on what the staff had on their mind. We'll be right here after this. I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals.

Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Loveline all the time. Educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat. If you have trouble, you can't stop and you want to help stop it. I can help. I got a lot to say. I got a lot more to say. And let's bring in my guests let's not waste any time here let's bring them all in how is everybody look at you guys oh it's kate and remy first okay all right now we got the two

of them at first uh so i i almost don't know how to approach the show there's so much i want to talk to you hey there's montel we only have Montel for a few minutes. So I want to start with Montel to begin with. But Montel, tell the audience what happened to you with your hand and what happened after you left the camp. Yeah, well, I end up fighting the red mist. I was told after we ran down the hill that if we came into something that seemed like we assessed as a threat to attack and make sure that we attacked, and then when we were told to

let up, to let up. I come out of this hill, I'm running behind Foxy or something like that. By the time we get to the bottom of the hill, I see this big dude in this big red suit or whatever. And I attack. And apparently, I don't know how to throw a good punch. So I'm throwing punches. But rather than punch with my fist balled or covered, I'm punching like this. And so literally, I'm hitting over and over and over again and literally tore ligaments on the outside and the inside of my hand. And so I tried to patch it up that day. You know, when we got back to the base, I'm trying to get a cast. I'm trying to do something to stop this little dangling motion of not having a thumb anymore. And after the different things that we had to do with the cables, I'm thinking I got to have the use of my hands and I didn't want to go see the

medic, but I did not have the use of my hand. And so I basically spent time in a Jordanian hospital later that night. But because I could not get proper MRIs and everything I was medically taken from the show released from the show and I'm sure you were as pissed as Kate and I were that it's really it really pisses you off I I'm sure you felt the same way yeah I was even in watching for the first time with my family and friends last night. It's tough to go back and to see and to watch. And, you know, people are getting glimpsed these seconds of moments. But I was there for 48 hours of nonstop seeing it in first person.

And so when you cannot determine your time to go, it wasn't I turned my number in or I cried uncle. It was literally, I could not go on. And that was very, very frustrating, not just leave, but it was frustrating even being back home trying to determine, man, I feel like I should still be there. Yeah, yeah. I think Kate and I experienced the exact same thing. And we certainly also are very familiar with the hospital you're talking about.

But we'll tell you those stories in a few minutes. But, Kate, your reaction to this? I feel exactly the way Montel felt. I mean, I still feel pissed that I got on day one. I mean, physically, I am amazed that anyone made it through at this point. I certainly wasn't physically where I wish I would have been. But at the same time, just watching the rest of that episode and what I missed just there. I'm so pissed.

Still. I still am. Yeah. And I texted you. Again, we were all together texting and on WhatsApp and stuff last night. And two things jumped out at me. One was we didn't get to see you getting so upset that you had to leave. We just saw the ambulance and you were just sort of taken away. And I really admired how you felt. And I'm fighting to stay. And and i i really admired how you how you felt i and i i fighting to stay and then i i get it i get how that felt i felt the same way and and they didn't show my scene where i started crying i started crying when then when i heard the the suffering that the pain the man i'll get you rami it's soon enough talk about that but i heard them out there suffering and i started crying because I thought that I should be there. I should be with everybody, you know, and it just, it just, yeah,

you know what that means, what that felt like. Uh, and we'll, we'll tell the hospital story later, but Kate, you, a couple of things last night, we also, I don't know if Montel, if you had this experience, but the fact that we didn't have the other guys with us watching the show made watching it almost more traumatic than being there. I know. Yeah, I would agree. I had a house full of family and friends that were tuned in, and it was crazy because I'm watching it for the first time, and I don't know if you guys had this, but I'm literally having an out-of-body experience because everything that I watched and experienced was in first person. And now I'm outside of me watching me do things. And from that standpoint, it was

the people in my house, like when Nastia made it across, the house exploded with, you know, or when somebody fell and hit the water, you know, Kate, when you hit the water a certain way the whole house went oh like it was like yeah yeah it really it wasn't it was not passive television it wasn't it wasn't passive it was very very uh uh interactive interactive yeah we we our house was full of people too we had the exact same reaction when kate fell in and and i i remember us sitting on the deck going oh my god she got hurt remember that on mond in and and i i remember us sitting on the deck oh my god she got hurt remember that on my and and by the way oh really but good oh yeah we were all like oh no oh no oh no but we but remy and his team you know what you don't know is remy and his team had already screamed at us for having any reaction to the diving telling us that it wasn't a circus it wasn't a circus

and we needed to come and we needed and we needed we needed military what's the word that you said bearing but uh there was another word that kate and i were trying to think of the next day uh when it was like decorum it was yeah i can't think of it it was such an obscure word yes i'll think of it when we remembered it oh i'll think of it again but but montel i want to put shine a little light on this before i have to let you go uh in a did they made a they properly told kate's story and her fear of heights and water but i I felt like they didn't give you, Montel, your due. I was so impressed when you dove out of the helicopter because I know you're very afraid of heights

and you really are not a swimmer. And you came back and you whispered to somebody next to you, Montel, you said, I did that for my kids and my grandkids. And I was just so moved by that. And they missed that moment. There's things like that that got missed. But, Montel, just hats off to you, man. That was a moment.

Yes. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. You know what? I have to be at peace with me being there and recognizing that I think the way a friend shared it with me earlier today was that I can't let other people define what my experience was there. Other people can't understand what 120 degree heat feels like running through the desert. You couldn't get that from TV.

Yeah, you couldn't pick that up. And so literally it was how the story is told from 16 people being eliminated. I mean, in a perfect world, I would have liked to see myself leave differently or allow the story to be told differently. But I understand that they have to be able to make one make good tv and i think they're doing that yeah uh and then at the same breath just know that what my story was for me it'll have to be opportunities like this for people to be able to get the behind the scenes of what the cameras may not have caught but even you drew saying, saying that, you know, that you remember me saying that, that is the type of things that I want the world to be able to know what's happening there, whether the cameras caught it or not. No, I have made a condition.

I want to jump in real quick because I want to jump in before Montel has to go. Because I was listening in on Montel's mirror room and I heard it and I was like, man, this story is going to blow. It's going to bless so many people. And it didn't make it in. So Montel, if you can, you know, you know what you said, the story of why you came. Share it so the world can hear what you said or at least get a piece of what she said before you jump off. And I want to add to that too. Sorry, Montel, I would like to also add that I didn't necessarily, Drew told me that you said that, but you were sitting next to me. And when you came out, you were so in your head. I recognized, whoa, something's going on there. I didn't realize you were not a

swimmer and you were also afraid of heights, but I looked over at you and you were, you like crawled into your shell. And I knew then he did not do this for himself. Like something's going on there. And because for like, you just look down and we're like completely withdrawn into yourself, trying to rejuvenate yourself. Do you remember that? And I remember looking at him like, is he okay? Is the interviewer, is something else going on there? Like you were like trying to like pull yourself back out.

I saw that it was a huge deal for you. Huge. So yes. Thank you for telling us what you said in the interrogation. I want to hear this. What'd you say? So what I said in the interrogation is actually the same thing that I said when I was running on my way to get on the helicopter. Before you got on the helicopter, you had to run through the desert, probably eighth or quarter of about whatever to get to that place. And me being afraid of heights, me not being a

swimmer, all those things, I'm having conversation with myself, the same thing that I said before the DS. And I said that I am here because I am a pastor that has been, uh, called to lead people in the face of their biggest fears, uh, people that are facing cancer, people that are facing divorce, people that are facing their worst fears. Uh, and when those things come, they can't turn and run. They have to face those things head on. And so in order for me to be able to not just empathize with them or not just be sympathy, feel sympathetic for them or apathetic, I need to be able to feel the empathy of feeling what they feel. And so in order for me to lead people through their most difficult times, I need to face

my most difficult time. So I'm doing this for my grandson. I'm doing this for them to be able to look and say, in the face of fear, Big Papa said, I'm going to do it anyway. I'll do it scared. I'll do it afraid because that's what a leader is supposed to do. And so that's what I said in my interrogation. And that's what I said on my way to the helicopter. That's what I said before climbing up the mountain or before scaling across the cables. Let me say this really quickly, Remy, because how they did, you guys were students. Not only were you our teachers and our DS, but you were students because you studied us to be able to know what those fears were to be able to push us because before i went up on that

mountain you called me up and and i stood before you before i went up on that on that whatever 300 foot table and you you started uh speaking to me in a language that that i understand you you understand you started saying some scripture things to me and i was like yo this dude knows who i am like you knew the right things to say and so i figured if you guys did that for everybody um then they all probably had some pretty good moments before doing what you do do you two know that remy was an intelligence officer in addition to everything else no he knew what he was doing He knew what he was doing. He knew what he was doing.

We'll get into that in a minute. I'll have him review his story. That's impressive. You guys don't know his story. I know his story. I'm going to make him review it a little bit because it's so impressive, but part of it is becoming an intelligence officer. And when I heard that, I was like, oh, okay.

Wow. Okay. Now I get it. That's why. But Mattel, I promised you out by quarter after so i will get i will say goodbye to you it's great to see you my friend and hopefully you'll gather with us soon here in southern california we'll have a chance to meet up with you my friend i appreciate that and hey thank you where do you want people to go? Give all your plugs right now. Oh, basically, anybody wants to find me can find me at Masterpiece Church.

We have our, my wife and I, we do a house church, which is a phenomenal thing for people who can't go to a local church for whatever reasons. And it's Sunday nights at 6 p.m. Eastern Standard Time or anything else is at Montel and Kristen. M-O-N-T-E-L-L-A-N-D-K-R-I-S-T-I-N. That's for IG. That's for subscribing to our YouTube channel. Twitter, everything is Montel and Kristen. Website also, also Masterpiece Church.

Go ahead. That is correct. Masterpiecechurch.com. Mont is correct. MasterpieceChurch.com. Montel, I have one last question. Did you get Popeye's one good time? I can't believe you remembered that. Oh, yeah. I just got to do it one more time.

Just got to hit Popeye's one good time. Just got to hit Popeye's one good time. Just got to hit Popeye's one good time. That's it. That's it. Yeah. Thank you, guys. Kate, you are. Thank you, brother.

Thank you, guys. Thank you so much. Thank you, Drew. I'll see you soon. Thank you, Montel. All right. Bye-bye. Take care.

Bye, man. See you. All right, brother. Love you. And Remy, it's interesting to me that you guys sort of picked montel out uh as an extraordinary person the way we the behind the scenes stuff we see you the staff talking it's i i bet you guys were not happy when he had to go yeah we were all really upset because uh you know just same with kate same with you know, we hate to see same with you. We hate to see people have to go for medical reasons, you know, because,

yeah, it's just it just stops the process. But at the same time, yeah, you know, like I've tried to tell everybody, you know, why do you ask everybody first, why do you come to the course? And once they say why they came to the course, it's like, you know, that's your when your when is coming here, you know that's your win your win is coming here you know realizing what you need to work on beginning the steps towards working on that whatever that may be and that's the win it's not getting to the end but it's still for us it's still sad to see people go prematurely um we had we had sort of an unexpected win well i had

two wins personally. One was I was just thrilled all day long. I thought, this is just awesome. This is amazing to go through this. And then all of a sudden, I was out of my head. I didn't know what was going on. But the other thing was the friends we walked away with, the relationships and stuff.

That was a big unexpected. And it didn't matter how long we were in there. This is the odd thing. We all got bonded up. Even if we were there for a few hours, it's very odd. Yeah. And you know what?

And Kate kind of pointed it out. It didn't get on TV. There's a lot of stuff didn't get on TV that were sort of poignant. Yeah. She knows what I'm talking about. We were at lunch after you guys blew us up and ran us through the desert and everything. And we were sort of all stunned walking through lunch,

walking through lunch quietly. And Kate, Kate's voice, she looks up and she goes guys look at us they have changed us already and we all were like oh my gosh she's so right yeah that was like four hours so it was it was it was four hours in but i just had this feeling pressing down on me all of a sudden, like we already felt like this integrated group that knew each other forever weirdly. And I just had to say it out loud and nobody disagreed. It was, and it was really kind of strange to like, I was like, really like four hours in? Yes. Four hours in, I completely felt different. The sand no longer bothered me, which I thought was going to be this huge issue. The heat, okay, it wasn't great, but it was like, we deal with it. Like

all these different factors already, like made me feel different. And I thought if we did this in four hours, what is, you know, four days, eight days going to look like? Yeah. And that's the thing about suffering, you know, with suffering and when you suffer as a community, it just, it just strengthens the bond, you know, and that an unbreakable bond when you have a shared suffering, something that, you know, it's hard to explain until you've experienced it like you all have experienced it. You know, even if it was suffering for a few hours together, you were able to bare your soul to each other and confide in each other and just be authentic. And I think that that's why it creates such a strong bond is because there's a there's a level of authenticity that comes out of each person in the midst of adversity and and in that vulnerability that that kind of brings everyone together in a permanent way in my opinion so okay I was able to walk you into your mirror room as well. So I heard your story and the hard thing about, you know, the show, because again,

everyone has to remember that cameras are rolling 24 hours a day, seven days. You know, there's only going to be, you know, 10 hours of episode on TV. So that's not, that's just a fraction of a, of a day of filming, but you know, you're, you know, you're a mirror and wasn't able to make it in either. Um, but I'd like for you to share a bit of what you share to your mirror, because again, one of the reasons why I decided to sign on to the show and do the show was because I love that it was a show that can watch, see themselves in you all, the recruits, and then receive some form of healing or, you know, some ideas on how to get through what they're going through. And you shared a lot of amazing stuff as it relates to

your past and why you came. So if you don't mind you know just for the world you know didn't get a chance to see that mirror room you know you could should have been if you open to that um yeah if i i mean i remember i kind of i think since then even i've had even more feelings but i think the main gist of it was um you know i've done a lot of tv um I, I used to be really physically fit and a go getter and really motivated and whatever. And I think one of the main things that I discovered was that I've become complacent and I'm sort of letting myself go where you're getting older, whatever.

And even since then, since coming back from the show, I'm back at the gym, I'm running not a ton of miles, not marathons again, but I have prioritized my, you know, so many parents, moms just focus on their kids and what your kids need. And, um, I forgot, like I'm a person too, and I need to get back in the gym, you know, physical fitness to me equals mental fitness. And all of those go so hand in hand. And, um, I felt like when I went in, my brain

would be able to carry me through the physical parts. And I was horribly horrified, even just watching last night. Like I was so out of shape. It's horrifying. And I mean, I used to be more fit than any, um, I mean, my kids would say, you know, mom, like you're the most fit mom. My kids are sitting here nodding. They're listening. You're the most fit mom, you know, mom, like you're the most fit mom. My kids are sitting here nodding. They're listening. You're the most fit mom, you know, in our class. Like I was really proud of that. Like I could do anything.

I ran 10 miles every day. It wasn't a big deal. I could keep up with my kids and I let myself go. So I have held myself accountable since coming back. I've lost 15 pounds. I'm, you know, better for it. And I'm continuing because I was horrified. I once thought that, you know, my physical it. And I'm continuing because I was horrified. I once thought that,

you know, my physical strength was up there. Now I wish I could have stayed longer to test because I, I am mentally strong. I mean, I had sex tuplets where, you know, a lot of that laying on bedrest for 24 weeks. If you tell your brain, look, I'm done. You'll go into labor. I mean, it's just done. I had to talk out loud to myself every day, not today. Every morning I would wake up and I would out loud say, nope, today is not the day. Knowing that I would never get them to a safe place to be born where they weren't premature. I know that's where I learned that your brain will respond to what you tell it. You tell it, you know, I'm tired. I can't work out today.

You're going to be tired. You can't work out. It's saying, no, go. I've adopted a saying. Something's better than nothing. Show up at the gym. Something is better than nothing. And I'm getting back to that because I used to be a really crazy, psychotic runner where I'd say, I can't feel, you know, my legs are burning. I don't care. Run to that tree. I don't want to do it. And that's how I

used to operate. Sounds a lot like you, right? Remy. And, um, you know, I, I used to be that way for myself and I let that go. And so I'm thankful for this wake up call for me to say, no, it's time get moving. Get moving. And so that was really... It reminds me also of the headlines of the show, which is that women are freaking tough. They're so tough. You guys are so tough. I have a feeling Susan's over there crying because she had triplets. Yeah, I didn't have six, though. But women are freaking tough. And people that I kept going in,

there were a couple of people I was like, I wonder how she's going to do it. Like, no problem. She is just tough. I know. And that's one of the headlines from the show for me. But just to put a little highlight on your self-care and stuff,

I found myself doing sort of the same thing. And, and, and also in my head is, you know, just one more, just one more. You can always do one more, which is you guys you're in my head. You're in my head. But, but a friend of mine, Peter Atiyah, who's a, those of you that know him, he's a, he's a longevity specialist. And I was, had dinner with him a couple of weeks ago and I was sort of quizzing him about longevity. I was like, what about metformin? What about this? What about this dietary thing?

And he finally looked at me and he goes, vigorous exercise. Vigorous exercise is what contributes to longevity. That's it. Vigorous exercise. And I thought, God, he's just right. He is right. And that's an important message of this whole thing. Yep.

And it's crazy how much it makes you, it makes you feel better. Like it's amazing how, you know, the studies that say that, you know, so many times a week working out is equal to an antidepressant. Like it literally wakes me up. And I forgot that I forgot.

Cause I had done it consistently for so many years. And then you kind of stop COVID and all that. You slow down and you, you, you start realizing like, I feel like crap. I look like crap. You slow down and you, you, you start realizing like, I feel like crap. I look like crap. Like, and once you, you, you know, kind of click into that again, I'm like, oh yes. Okay.

This is it. And so I've just committed to, and I'm thankful for the show for a million reasons, but that is one of them. It was a wake up call of, you know, um, you can't fake it till you make it when you're out of physical shape. Like you've just got it till you make it when you're out of physical shape. Like you've just got to do the work and get in there and do it. And I've loved that, that voice that sounds a lot like Remy and the other staff saying

one more lap. One, two. I did it today. I was like, one more lap just because this is what I do to myself in my head. And I'm like, well, I've done all I want to run because you can. Well, I can't. Yes, you can do it. And that head is back.

Always do one more. That's back. And I love that. Hey, Kate. Hey, Kate, you know what can motivate you too? You can imagine that shark is biting your leg off. Yeah, Remy. I saw that in the one preview, and I was like, I didn't hear you say that in real life.

But when I saw that, I was like, I was probably, I was like, oh my gosh, that is the best line. I didn't even think of that. Remy, I've just realized, I owe you a little bit of an explanation too. I did not come back to do the mirror room interview. I was offered it. And to me, it felt like I was offered it and to me it felt like i was it was so unfortunate that i was just out it felt like television to come back you know what i mean it didn't feel authentic to me it's like god it happened to me it sucked yeah that's it

it just sucked and i i really had nothing to say about it you would have shared that share what you would have shared if that situation didn't happen. What would you have asked me? What would you have asked me? How do you think you're doing so far? That would have probably been the first question. And then the second question would have been, why are you here?

Now, granted, you have to put yourself in the mindset of, I'm tired, I'm beating down. No no no i know i know yeah that's just there is that that's true you get kind of that way but but uh you know i would have said what i said before is i i when i'm pushing back the clock and uh and i ran right into it because i blinked and i'm pissed i i should have known better i should have watched my fluids i should have been on top of that and it's nobody to blame but me. You know what I mean?

And I was preoccupied with a lot of other stuff, granted, but I should have known better. And I just, I blinked and I'm just furious about that. And how do I think I was doing? When I got out of the tank, the Red Sea and and climbed up, and you asked me, do you remember telling me, you always ask, how do you think you did on that jump? And I was like, well, you know, I kind of backflip. And you looked at me and essentially said, shut up. It was a perfect dive. And then sit down.

And I was like, whoa, this is the greatest day of my life. And those moments, although it was was hard i was completely into it i was ready to go i i was just completely into it all day long it's just the greatest thing and and as i said in one of these interviews i felt more more alive you know why like why did you come to i i don't i don't i don't know that there was something I wanted to get out of it. I wanted to shine a light on what you guys did and put myself in that position to show how extraordinary it is, what you guys do. But I ended up wanting just to be with my peers. I just wanted to suffer with my peers.

That's all I wanted to do. That's what I wanted to get out of it. I mean, especially when I was sitting in that damn medical office, hearing everybody paying the man, I just started crying. I couldn't stand it. I couldn't stand it. And so that experience, I guess, maybe put more of a light on it for me is I wanted to be there suffering with my peers and support them and get as far as I could, whatever that meant. And I just ran right into, you know, misery. And Kate and I had a whole experience in the hospital. We'll tell you if you want to hear about it.

You have to talk about how you ended up in the hospital. Okay. In a second. There's one other thing I want to say. And that the next day, you know, Kate and I left the hospital together. We were in ICU beds next to each other. And we left the hospital the next day together mostly because we demanded to get out,

both of us. She's an RN. I'm a physician. Things got very scary in that hospital for us. We were like, we are out. We are getting out of here. She told me a story about something you did that really stuck

with me. Do you know what that story was where Remy took his glasses off and spoke to you about something you did that really stuck with me do you know do you know what that story was where remy took his glasses off and spoke to you do you remember that story you want to i'll let yeah let you tell it like well remy you were the one that said look um we're withdrawing you and remember um you know i cried and i said no please i'm not done and um i think the thing that i really hung on to and I really appreciate you for is the fact that you said you actually like took your glasses off and you were like, Kate, are you going to be a Navy SEAL? Like, is that what you want to do with your life? I was like, yeah. And I was like, the best.

Well, no. And he goes, right. You're never going to do this. You've got to be healthy for them. Like, we really can't take a chance on this. And I was like, I know, but I really wanted to finish. I really, and you were like, okay, finishing is great. But the truth is you've already won exactly what you said earlier. You, you did the scariest. And when I realized that you did research on us, because you knew

that this was like the thing that I said I was most afraid of. And I was like, Oh, you're actually right. And in all the future days, like even just laying in the hospital where I said I was most afraid of and I was like oh you're actually right and in all the future days like even just laying in the hospital where I was thinking about how it really sucks that I'm here after day one like how horrifying and embarrassing I went back to your words of saying but like you conquered like your biggest thing you came here and said a jump from a helicopter into water was the top of the line because I had watched a few seasons of the British version. So that's the thing that kept taunting me the worst, thinking, crap, if we've got to do that, I just don't know. And I did it.

I did it because I knew I was not going to show up on day one and be like, I'm not doing that. I remember coming around the corner in the helicopter circle that we made. And I remember freaking out. And this gives me chills to this day because I at some point shut my brain down and said, I have news you're doing this so you can turn everything else off because we'll be doing this. Do you know that is the first time it gives me chills first time in my life that I actually was able to get a hold of myself in my greatest fears and say, bar none, this is happening. And after that,

I did not question myself because I, my brain had given me orders and I did it. And that's what actually makes me upset to think, what else could I have tried? Cause I'll look at that wire crossing and think never in a million years. But I also said never in a million years to the helicopter originally. Yeah. So anyway, I appreciate you saying.

Yeah. I just thought it was such a great moment. When you and I were eating crust, we were eating coffee and we were in that coffee shop together. Remember that? Yeah. The horrible bakery thing. And you told me that story and I was like, Jesus, I don't think it's ever going to leave me, this story. Because it was just such the right thing to say to somebody.

Yes. It was just exactly right. And I thought, wow, what a crazy experience we've had and how, how, you know, how you guys know so clearly what to do in these moments.

And also how human he was suddenly. Well, Remy, you became human in that moment to me. Yeah. Yeah. Remy became human to me in that moment. me yeah yeah remy became human to me that moment like you know your staff and scary as you and you are um but like when you took your glasses off and

you were talking to me like a real person that meant like that meant a lot to me but he knew when to do that that's the extraordinary thing yeah because this to us I don't see this as a TV show. I would not have done it if it was TV, if it was entertainment. Like, you know, the reason why I signed up for it in the UK, because I worked on the UK version before this and then the UK version got picked up to be what it is now, is because when I watched it, I was like, this is real. And my whole life after I turned, what, 28 was, that's when I decided life is no longer about me anymore. It's about how can I use everything I have to be a blessing to other people. And when I saw that that's what this show was about, it was about using my, not exploiting being an ABC,

not showing, hey, look at me, I'm a CEO, about was about using my not exporting being an ABC you know not you know so hey look at me I'm a CEO but being able to ground my life experiences to give some of the people that's what I was like okay you guys are gonna let me do that on this show you know and and you know you're you're human being dr. jude's even being how many they put the seal stuff aside, the TV stuff, camera, we're all human beings, you know?

And, um, that's, that's why, how we try to deal with everyone in the realest, rawest form, um, because it isn't about the cameras for us.

It's not, you know, it's, it's about the people. So I, I want to take a quick break. That was the easiest part for me. What was that, Kate? The easiest part. I just said that was the easiest part for me because everyone was like this is a tv show my show a reality show

i never noticed the cameras from day one and they always said that is so rare like i'd be raving like a lunatic and whirl around and the kid i was right and i go oh like shocked that he was there so for me i wanted it to be real as well and i knew i'd be able to like some people aren't able to forget cameras are there you got me as real as could be and i was appreciative that the show when i showed up actually like you said was real it was real it was like the cameras were like a hundredth of the list of our concerns. Yeah. And let me remind you that you can follow Kate, Kate on Twitter at Kate plus my eight with the number eight at the end. And the website is case plus my eight.com.

I'm going to take a little break. When we get back, here's what I want to do. I want Rami, you to tell us about your current projects. Then I want you to sketch your, your story. Cause I don't think Kate knows your story.

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I'm not surprised. So, Remy, what are you working on now? Where can people find you? Tell us about the project. Susan, you had some questions about the organ transplant, about trafficking and stuff too, right? No? Well, I made a joke about going into the hospital

and maybe having an organ removed. We'll get to that. But I want you to talk about Jamie Lynn, okay, how she came into play here. All right. First, let's have Remy talk about what he's doing now, where we could find you, what your projects are. Yeah, so I – yeah, Kate, we got a – I got a mission for you. You have what? A mission. yeah yeah kate we got it i got a mission for you mission i got a mission for you we're going to mission again okay um i uh um i got a film coming out next week uh playing uh so that's that hits theaters next week with uh gerard butler mikeoulter, and a few other great actors.

Wow. Congratulations. That's going to be a thing. They actually played the trailer during the show last night. They played the trailer. Yeah, yeah. We must have been texting them. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The group was all together texting. Okay, probably texting during the commercial yeah i mean is that the one that's the one from lion's gate that's coming out on january 13th is that the one you're talking about yeah if you want i actually your team sent me a 30 second clip if you want me to play it real quick yeah check it out is that the one with me in it or is that the one i'm actually not sure it the 30-second clip that your team sent. You can tell us about it after we watch it. Like a real talk show. Here we go.

My screen is frozen up. Make sure I can see it. We're cutting right through the top of the storm. Mayday, mayday, mayday. We've gone down on an island. This is an emergency. My passengers. My responsibility. I've got to on an island. This is an emergency. My passengers. My responsibility.

I better go after them. You're going to need this. The clock is ticking. Let's go! Gerard Butler in Plane. Only in theaters January 13th. Rated R. That is

incredible, dude. Was that you with the gun? I couldn't see it, guys. Oh, so sorry. Her screen froze. We'll send it to you. Yeah, that actually happened to me a few seconds ago. My screen froze, too.

But yeah, that's actually the trailer that they played last night during the thing. But Brad should have sent you a clip of one of my scenes from the film. If he didn't, I'll get you that for next time. But that film drops out next week with Lionsgate. And then the film that I came on last

time to talk about, The Unexpected, that got picked up to be a feature film. We just closed on financing for that. we're going into casting in the next two weeks i'm directing that film we got it we're gonna have some major stars in that and that's gonna be a cool uh thriller but it's really going to build upon what what you all saw on a short film as a sequel um and uh yeah yeah Thank you. Thank you. You know what the plane reminds me of? That whatever happened to MH370.

Yeah. I always had like fantasies that that's what happened. Yep. That's, that's why people will be interested. I can't wait to see it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And are you going to do any more? Yeah. What's the mission? What's that? What's that? He's kidding. I hope she wants to know what our mission is. He's to think about he was just kidding is there are you going to be on any further for future episodes of special forces do you think

uh you know if it gets picked up for season two then uh then yeah we'll have some talks and see how it works out yeah yeah we'll see we'll see if it is all it's all as you know it's all about ratings it's all about ratings if ratings hold absolutely you know i'm open and and you know there's so much for us to talk about with the staff since what i keep saying we need to do a reunion show with all of us we can talk about all the stuff that didn't get on camera what you guys were thinking what we were thinking like like for for me for remy it's interesting um if you remember kate when we were first in the parade courtyard uh we had a lot from rudy that day right a lot rudy was telling us what was going to happen who he is who introduced everybody and then if you remember i'm laughing because I had such a reaction to it.

For some reason, you saw something, Remy saw something, and he kind of pushed, he kind of went, you know, he sort of, if you see me pushing a little aside to Rudy, like, hey, hey, let me step up. And he stepped up, and I just had this huge reaction. I just went, that guy. I want to listen to that guy. Whatever that guy's got to say. And you started, and and he goes now hold still you know hold still you know stand straight and i forget what you said next but all of a sudden you go hey i see a lot of squirming around out there stand still and it just cut so what happened was with that they cut so much as you know because you all know that parade split was a lot longer than

what it was that it made out to be. And people kept moving for like 10 minutes, whether it was a fly, whether it was like, you know, somebody scratching themselves or their hair. Rookie mistakes is all I'm going

to say. I finally said to myself, okay, I got to get involved here. Cause they, I need to bring them all down to reality, realize where they are. They're not in,

you know, their world anymore. So, yeah. I was mad about that. Cause I was like, have you not seen one episode of any other of the British version? You don't move.

I was so. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I was thinking too. Yeah, yeah. Right, right. That's what I was thinking too. I knew what military decorum was. I thought you got, and maybe I wasn't still enough, I thought. But the interesting thing, did you have planned for the water dunk at that point?

Because we hadn't seen it. We didn't know what that was. You were all of a sudden in the water like, water, where's that? But did you have that? Was that pre-planned that that was going to happen right then, R no no you the reality is we don't really plan anything like like we don't script out plan out anything it was all interesting you guys drive the script like we are just reacting off of what you do we know we know that the dip tank there. We know that they're staying everywhere. We know we got logs in the corner. We know we got monkey bars. We got all the tools that we need to make you all feel pain. We have them at our disposal. It's how you respond and what you do. If you do

what you're supposed to do, then we'll have the brief. You go into your tent, change. We already got the shock and off from the, which was another thing that was cut out because you all know that after you got off the train, there was a lot that happened between the train and between that parade square. But that was all cut out as well. So for us, it's not about we have this plan,

we're going to do this. We don't really know what we're going to do. We're going to do this. We don't really know what we're going to do. We have our standards. And if you operate within those standards, then we move on to the next thing. If you don't operate within those standards, then you got to pay the man. And that was pretty much an introduction to paying the man that wasn't planned. Interesting. Then if you don't pre-plan it, we didn't see a whole lot of talking amongst you.

So how, like, whoever has the floor amongst you at that time kind of runs that next thing? Or like, do you know what I'm saying? We didn't see a whole lot of... Yeah, for us, it's a special operation. The cool thing about special operations, whether you're a British, American, American SEALs, American Delta, American whatever, we have gotten from our special operations community, a lot of it comes from the SAS. But then there's a lot of things that the SAS takes from us. So we have like this,

it's weird, we gain this ability to read and react off of each other. Yeah. We learn that in training. Yeah. And then when we go overseas, you know,

it's just automatic. Like I can embed with a British SAS unit because our tactics are pretty much similar. We'll be able to read and react. We know when, okay, I'm laying down a British SAS unit because our tactics are pretty much similar. We'll be able to read and react. We know when, okay, I'm laying down a cover fire. I don't have to tell you to move.

You know, you already hear me laying down a cover fire. You're going to move. It's all of these standards that are beaten to us over the course of years to the point where I can, you know, even when I did the first season with the UK guys and Britain, afterwards the recruits were like, I would have thought that you guys knew each other from somewhere because you guys worked so well together. It's just like, no, it's just this suffering. It's like an orchestra. So it's like innate. Like you talk because you didn't need to talk.

Like they knew, like we were moving. What was coming next? What was like, that's interesting wow yeah if you remember kate after ramey threw us in the tank the british guys kind of the ones that stepped forward and said all right into the sand right remember right it was sort of a it's an improvisation it was an abc yeah isn't that impressive because we would have thought i mean we would have thought that was all pre-planned like honestly that's how it looked like drew was saying wow none of this play even the stuff that happened at at the uh at the wire crossing was was it the wire the uh the rope crossing like the stuff with dwight you know laying on the ground

and uh and uh you know having that wasn't planned you know even the stuff with Dwight, you know, laying on the ground. And, you know, that wasn't planned. You know, even the stuff with Danny Amendola that was cut out. Danny Amendola had to do the bear crawls with Dwight. And the other stuff that happened there at the canyon, none of that was planned. You know, it was just you give us the material and we just make make a cake with it you know and Susan and Susan wanted wanted us to review uh Jamie Lynn Spears experience on that day one when you guys gave her there's a there's a stat there's a recruit that's responsible for communicating with the staff every day and also running the food and running the toilets and everything and she was number one and was given

no instruction just figure out what it was and I just thought she was number one and was given no instruction she'd just figure out what it was and i i just thought she was really impressive look on her face when she found out she was in church she's like yes staff and then she kind of went yeah yeah i guess i'll go well because remember she was hoarse had no voice and i remember her saying of all people they gave me this on day one and i can't talk i mean she the poor thing she was like they did not put that i i feel it's another thing they missed on tv because it was actually super comical with was her standing at the rock going yes yes and i think it was you remy i think that came out and said um you know if if you can talk, you have to put your big girl pants on and find somebody who can talk for you.

And I was like, we will. I was there with you. We were weighing our packs or something. We were doing our seance. We were weighing our packs, something like that. We were doing our seance. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, oh, I didn't know.

Which is another thing, then. No issue was made of that. For us, that was a really big deal on that day, trying to get our packs the right weight and the water situated and all that stuff that we couldn't get a figure out. It was in kilograms and not pounds. Right. We had all this problem. And everyone was like, what's the conversion? I was like, it's 2.2.

Someone looked at me and said, are you positive? I said, 100% positive. But all that, there was just so much but so and and jamie lynn is the one so when i was just i'm gonna say it just so i've said it because i'm so appreciative to her she when i was i was really out of it neurologically and she's the one that dragged me and i i wanted to hide that i was trying to hide it from everybody and people kept going are you okay are you okay and i yeah kate and whatever and um same same with me same yeah and jamie lynn is the one that then grabbed me when you're going in we're going to the medic and and i and i don't really remember it because i was so out of it no she said she said she saw you sitting outside and she goes he didn't look very yeah they didn't

show it on tv so she took him in and made him go in and then that was it but basically jamie lynn spears saved drew's life yeah i want a t-shirt and not pay the man t-shirt but jamie lynn saved my life i want that one well not for me nastia did that oh yeah you drew you kept saying something to me and remember i was dry heaving over the side of that little shade thing and nastia finally said what so are you gonna go going to go or am I going to go for you? And I was like, my choices, I guess I'll go.

Will you go with me? And that's when she, she made me turn myself in. Cause I kept thinking, oh, it's fine. Remember I had a headache and then I, my neck hurt.

And then I was started dry heaving and you guys were like, this is not good. This is not good. Yeah. No, the fear is that you were having a, that you could have a that you could have either a posterior bleed right from hitting your head or there's this syndrome there's a

syndrome of essentially what used to be called foie a la joine which is a problem with the the venous circulature on the spine it can tear and it all sounded bad to me and as you were getting worse i was like oh no no this is not this is not okay i mean and it's such a picture it painted such a picture of a head or neck injury because i started dry heaving and never stupid in 110 degree weather never did i realize that was dehydration setting in because they just kept saying oh my gosh so dehydrated but we're starting to throw up with a suspected head injury as a nurse i remember secretly thinking this is not good you need to go do something and i was like but i'm not done but i was like

but this is not good i knew like the things that could mean but even so i was trying to hide it like you did crazy and i gotta say just to add to kind of touch on what you all said like that's the stuff that for us is ds that we really like i didn't because we don't know what's going on in the tent we don't have eyes on what's going on in the tent the bathrooms the galley where you were you all eating all that when you're in the vehicles we don't see any of that we don't hear any we don't know any of that stuff so watching the show it's it's it's an experience for us because when they were able to say oh that's what happened that's how dr drew ended up going to the medical and

that's what happened with kate and absinthe you know so we're able to see all of that you know and it's really eye-opening for us and uh and in some ways also confirms some things that we were thinking we're like oh you know so Thank you for not crossing off Drew's face like you did to Kate, though. We're all sitting there watching. We go, we're going to cross off your face now. I was really traumatized by that. I have to say, I was really traumatized by that.

And my kids gasped when that happened. I was like, oh, mental picture. I'll never be able to erase it. Yeah, that was pretty hard. You're going to see that happen to a lot more. There's a lot more recruits that are going to get X. Yeah, I'm sure. A lot more X is coming. So I want Drew to paint the picture and maybe Kate can embellish the ride to the hospital. Oh, I had a different ride. I had a different ride than kate well i i won

i promise i will get to that first remy sketch your story because i don't know think kate knows it i think the audience needs to hear it too just you can do abbreviated version but your story is so incredible you got like 15 minutes i know and i'll be super short so short i was born in africa my dad was super rich, wealthy Nigerian engineer, philanthropist, royalty. He's a Eurobus. My last name, Adeleke, actually means the crown and supreme. Adeleke actually means the crown has appeased me. So I was born into a lot of rich and wealth.

Long story short, Nigerian government pretty much took all my dad's assets. He died days later. We went from rich to poor. Mom moved my brother and I to the Bronx, New York. Grew up in a not so nice area. Got involved in the selling drugs in my teen years and doing all this crazy stuff. Ended up having to join the military

because I had no other choice. Had one time for my arrest. My recruiter got my record expunged, snuck me into the navy and that's when i decided i got to tell a little more hang on hang on hang on yeah you really abbreviated it too much he he saw a movie about the navy seals and said i want to do that went to a recruiting office and the recruiter essentially said, A, you don't swim. B, you have two outstanding felonies in two different states. How are we supposed to?

And she walked him into the courtrooms in New Jersey and New York. I want to pay this woman proper respect because I know you've got deep love for her, Remy, and got the judge to say, we'll give you a chance on this one. He taught himself to swim. He went through the Navy SEAL training, failed the first time, passed the second time, and then became an intelligence officer. Did I get it? Yeah, you got it. That's good.

That's good. Yep. Please tell me you've written about this. Yeah, my book is actually right here. Chameleon, right? Transform. I still can't see you.

Tell me the name of it. Drop it down a little bit. There you go. Oh, sorry. It's called Transform. And it just got picked up to be a movie. We're going to do a big announcement in the next few weeks or so. We got a lot of big people attached to it. It's going to be a big announcement in the next few weeks or so. We got a lot of big people attached to it.

Holy cow, Remy. That is a crazy story. I'm blown away. Okay. Wow. I'm definitely following and getting. Wow. That's amazing.

I'm just so pleased to be a part. Yeah. Just to have been a little piece of a fly on the wall of your story is an honor. True. Thank you. Thank you. So you really live, I mean, funny where your mouth is. Like, you're not just saying this stuff.

Like, you've lived it. No, no, no. That's awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's been a crazy journey. It's been a crazy journey. Yeah. Wow.

So speaking of crazy journeys, I promised Susan that we would talk about our hospital adventure, and, uh, Remy, we're going to subject you to this. So she wants me journeys, I promised Susan that we would talk about our, our hospital adventure and, uh, Randy, we're going to subject you to this. So she wants me first time at the ambulance. So do you, what was the pair?

There's the books. You've got a good picture of it here. What was the paramedics name? Anybody remember? Not the woman, but the young man, uh, do you remember Randy,

who the paramedic was? Um, yes. Um, I just thought of it earlier today. Now it's. Well, blurt, blurt it out when you think about it, but he traveled in the ambulance. Was it Dr. Jamie?

Dr. Jamie? No, it wasn't Jamie. It was the paramedic. It was not the physician. It was the paramedic. What is it? Yeah, Jamie was the other paramedic. Jamie.

No, Jamie was the physician. Jamie was the doctor. Oh, right. And then there was an actual male paramedic. And he had to... Because I had to go through the sand dunes to get to a road in that little ambulance, he had to lie on top of me to keep me from flying off the gurney. That's how crazy the ride was through the desert. Wait, Drew, I have a question for you.

Was your ambulance the same as mine? You saw my ambulance on the show. Was it like that? I think so. Because we tried to describe our ambulances, and I didn't know what mine looked like on the outside. I wasn't paying attention. Okay, keep going. Sorry, I had to know that.

I think that's why I couldn't tell. I was so out of it. I really couldn't tell. I just know it was tiny on the inside, and that this young man was lying on top of me to keep me from flying off the thing. And there were military stops along the way. We kept getting these military officers throwing the whole thing open and shining lights. And the staff would run out of the ambulance and say, don't look him in the eyes. I go, what's happening?

I have no idea what's going on. Finally, we get to the hospital, and the paramedic was still with me. And I begged him not to leave because it was kind of, I just couldn't figure out. My head was not working and, um, got into my room next to Kate in the ICU at the military hospital and the King's wing, right. We were in sort of the King's wing thing. And I immediately threw my clothes off and that was it for me saying nurses. Once I had my clothes off, the nurses wouldn't come back in my room, which was fascinating, or at least rarely would come back in my room. They didn't have IV pumps. They just had the little rollers from back in the day. So I managed my own fluids and I knew I needed a lot of fluid. And I was sort of watching what they were doing with the sodium content of the bags. And it took me five liters before I could stand up again. So five liters of IV fluid before I could really stand up.

Isn't that wild? And I was kind of going in and out neurologically. And I'd wake up and my blood, but the bag would be empty and blood would be all the way back into the IV bag. And I'd be like, can you guys at least change my IV bag? You had the same thing, Katie? That was crazy to me. That was super crazy. Yep, same.

That they weren't even watching the IV bags. Because you and I both know that that, yeah, well, it could, I mean, you could lose your sight. Clots, infection, who knows? Infection, everything. And I, yep, same with me. Yeah. So I was watching that. yeah it was uh it it

it was hard to sleep even though we were so tired i was also very dehydrated obviously not as dehydrated as you but it was hard to sleep because they would come in and i'd have to know what they were doing because just even being a nurse i was like what are you doing to me what are you giving me they come in and just push stuff and i had no idea what they're doing like yeah they would just they gave me a crazy they gave me a crazy concoction of ticarcillin with this this crazy anti-pseudomotor antibiotic i'm like why are you giving this to me it's protocol in the icu i'm thinking really that's how you get resistant bacteria in your icu yeah i want to be a carrier and and i was like i i by that point I'd been fighting all night with the surgical residents. We were on a surgical ward, and the residents kept coming in and wanted to take me to the operating room.

They wanted to take out part of my colon because they were convinced my problem was diverticulitis. Yes. And I was like, I'm not going. No. I think they wanted a kidney. And then Susan, after your movie, Susan became convinced that it was organ harvesting. But the truth is, they kept adding on treatments for me too,

and they wanted to do all this crazy stuff. And what was the girl paramedic who I love? What was her name? Blonde hair. I saw her. I don't remember her name. Yeah. Oh, I didn't say her name.

I love her to death. And she's... I don't know. I'm trying don't remember her name. Yeah. I loved her to death and she's, I don't know. I'm trying to look up her name. Hold on. I'm looking at right now. Charlotte. And it's all like Charlotte, Dr. Charlotte. She was so awesome and she literally stayed with me and was arguing with them because they wanted to do, I can't remember cause I was in and out of it, but they wanted to do all this crazy stuff to me too. And she literally went to bat for me. I could hear her in the room. No, no. And very politely,

we are not going to do that. Nope. I'm sorry. We are not going to do that. And they were convinced that someone literally convinced all night till the next morning that someone pushed me out of a helicopter. They could not understand that I willingly jumped out and became injured. She was like, they were like going crazy thinking someone had done this to me on purpose. And she was like, no, no. I heard that by the time Montel got there, they were going, what are you doing? Is this a military operation? What are you doing to these people? Yeah.

I'm starting to think. And by the time I think, by the time it got to Montel, they were starting to catch on. Like they were starting to say, okay, how many more people are coming? Yeah, right. That's true.

Because they didn't know, but I was the first one. And they definitely got more people. Yeah, they definitely did. They got more eventually. We can't talk about that yet but but uh yeah more coming so and and then kate and i they eventually convinced me to go down to get a chest x-ray and an abdominal ultrasound neither of which i need and i went down there and it looked like a tb ward and i thought well this, this is how I get tuberculosis or COVID. And then lo and behold, Kate was down there getting scanned and she got COVID.

Yep. I was, I think we got out on Tuesday, Drew. And then we flew home. I think we both flew home Thursday. Or did you go Wednesday night? No, I think it was Thursday. Anyway, Thursday on the way, I tested negative, obviously, because we had a test coming back. I tested negative for COVID that morning and my stomach was upset and whatever.

I was like, well, I haven't eaten in two days because that's another thing. They don't feed you in hospitals over there. And so, yeah, my pants were falling down until I came back. But anyway, so I was going heading home and on the the flight on the way home, the first flight, I was sicker than I have ever been in my whole life. And I ended up having three flights. The third one was delayed and it was a nightmare coming home. But definitely COVID. I mean, that is exactly where I got it without a doubt.

Yeah. It was adding insult to injury. I mean, nobody was masked. Drew, do you remember? Do you remember there was this? I don't know why this sticks with me, I because i'm a nurse in this country but there was like they pushed me down there for three different scans or three different treatments and there was like just vomit in the middle of a hallway it was orange i'm sorry i can still see it it was my trash can

tons of vomit and people just walked around it and it was just there. Like no one was coming to clean it up. And that's when I was like. I trained. Yeah. I, I trained in a County hospital and it was, it was very familiar to me. It felt like the old County days when I was a medical student. But I also knew how much infectious disease flew around there.

So Drew gets to finish with the, with the part where the, the head surgeon comes in or the head yeah so that so both case and i had every we had all these residents and we had attendings the attendings ray me in the middle of the night we're wearing full military garb big brass it's scary guys and in the morning the the in medicine people finally saw me and he starts lecturing me this guy with the uniform. There are these things called electrolytes, and you needed more electrolytes. And I'm like,

Jesus, let me get out of here. And then they started talking in Arabic, and I heard the word CPK. And I was all night trying to figure out why I got so sick so fast. And you don't know this, but I had a calf injury going into the the camp and I thought god maybe I had rhabdomyolysis or something in that calf and really didn't know it and so when they said CPK I went hey did you measure my CPK and he looked at me stunned and he goes no and I go I was trying to figure out why I got so sick maybe I had rhabdomyolysis or something he goes there were a bunch of residents in the room and he goes, my patient knows my job. He knows what rhabdomyolysis is. The patient's going to ask me about CPK. And I thought, oh my God, I have to get out of here. I have to get out of here

right now. And that's when you and I got out. And the other thing was the fact that, so I literally, not to like detract from that, but I have a genuine question because I was there for two days and they did not feed us. Do they, like, do your family in other countries, does your family bring you food? Like, I'm being serious. Like, is that like a thing? I don't know. Drew, you weren't fed either, were you?

I don't know. I couldn't get a blanket. I got cold at one point or I got chilled or something and I asked for a blanket. I got it for a blanket and They go, you need to adapt. And no blanket. And I was like, I need to adapt? But you would have been proud of me. They continued the suffering.

You never said he was a doctor. Hey, that was a prank. That was part of the program. Those were undercover BS, and we were just continuing the course for you to see how far you can go. You were going to starve us and subject us to unnecessary surgeries and procedures. Just so you know, my wife, Susan, insisted that that was the case. She also believes to this moment that there must have been cameras in those rooms. So there we go.

Susan had it right. There's an episode in and of itself then. I know. I know. I know. Oh, yeah, I know. But listen, guys, we got to wrap this up. I really appreciate you coming in and chatting it up after the show.

I want to thank you, Remy, for not just everything you do for everyone else, but what you did for us out there. Yes. None of us regret a minute of it. Every single one of it feels like we were, we were enhanced by this experience and we left with these great relationships and hopefully we can share it with the world and make a difference. So Kate, thanks for coming in today. Again, Kate and I got, Kate and I got, got bonded through our, our bonds and suffering was in the hospital.

And then the next day we spent the whole day kind of debriefing each other, talking through the medical part. So thank you, Drew. Hopefully, Remy will come back soon for another special episode. Thank you, man. We want to have another special

episode with you, Remy, about trafficking as well as maybe pop in for some future tell-alls. And Kate, if you're outemy, about trafficking as well as maybe pop in for some future tell-alls. And Kate, if you're out here, you can come see us. Go ahead, Remy. I would love to. I was going to say, Kate, thank you so

much. It was such a blessing working with you and meeting you. It's been a pleasure kicking it with you today on this live stream with good old Dr. Drew. Right back at you, Remy. I really appreciate you. It's been a pleasure kicking it with you today on this live stream with good old Dr. Drew. Same. Right back at you, Remy. I really appreciate you. Yeah, I know what Kate got out of this because I got the same thing. What's it like for you hearing us talk was able to see you both at the beginning stages of the process.

And just to see you happier and having gotten something out of the course. And, you know, especially even after watching the show, you know, that's so cool to see. So it's a blessing. And I feel like I bonded. And even with the last series that I did in the UK, I got a message from one of the civilian recruits from the UK show this morning. And it's a bond. Just as you all create a bond within your group, like we as DS, we create bonds with you all and want to stay in touch with you all

and see how your lives progress and so on and so forth. All right. It's been a blessing. Well, then that's what we'll do. That's what we're going to do. That's what we'll do do the gauntlet is down that's guys thank you so much and we'll talk we'll talk soon thank you guys much love thank you for your service thank you for your service that's for sure we will see you on tuesday i'll be speaking with uh a chinese scientist who had some interesting observations this is a show show dedicated to Susan who has some concerns about that.

Oh, stop telling. You booked the guest. This was your idea. She's a real serious scientist. I know. I'm just going to listen. I'm not going to make any judgment. There we are. We also have Dr. Paul Alexander on January 11th and Ryan Cole coming back on February 1st. We had somebody on Twitch today that has watched for years

and sort of had to tone out a little bit, Ma Zhang, because they said that they're a little tired of COVID talk, but thanks for coming back and watching and we'll always try to, you know, open up new conversations as well on Thursdays. Maybe we should do more Special Forces stuff on Thursdays.

Well, yeah, I'm hoping that we'll be able to connect with all your castmates once they're taken off. We're not allowed to really no spoiler alerts but um i think the series is going to be very popular and i think that you need to show the bond that you have with all these people we'll do it excellent all right everybody we will see you on tuesday ask dr drew is produced by Caleb Nation and Susan Pinsky. As a reminder, the discussions here are not a substitute for medical care, diagnosis, or treatment.

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