Ask Dr. Drew - Steve-O RETURNS… With A Bucket List & Torn Meniscus – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 294

Episode Date: December 9, 2023

Steve-O had knee surgery on Wednesday… but he’s coming in to the studio anyway, because it’ll take more than a torn meniscus to stop Steve-O. Steve-O is a world renowned stunt performer, stand...-up comedian, and star from MTV’s Jackass series. Watch his new “unbelievably filthy” comedy special “Steve-O’s Bucket List” at https://steveo.com 「 SPONSORED BY 」 Find out more about the companies that make this show possible and get special discounts on amazing products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors • GENUCEL - Using a proprietary base formulated by a pharmacist, Genucel has created skincare that can dramatically improve the appearance of facial redness and under-eye puffiness. Genucel uses clinical levels of botanical extracts in their cruelty-free, natural, made-in-the-USA line of products. Get an extra discount with promo code DREW at https://genucel.com/drew • COZY EARTH - Trying to think of the right present for someone special? Susan and Drew love Cozy Earth's sheets & clothing made with super-soft viscose from bamboo! Use code DREW to save up to 40% at https://drdrew.com/cozy • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 The CDC states that COVID-19 vaccines are safe, effective, and reduce your risk of severe illness. You should always consult your personal physician before making any decisions about your health.  「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. 「 ABOUT DR. DREW 」 Dr. Drew is a board-certified physician with over 35 years of national radio, NYT bestselling books, and countless TV shows bearing his name. He's known for Celebrity Rehab (VH1), Teen Mom OG (MTV), Dr. Drew After Dark (YMH), The Masked Singer (FOX), multiple hit podcasts, and the iconic Loveline radio show. Dr. Drew Pinsky received his undergraduate degree from Amherst College and his M.D. from the University of Southern California, School of Medicine. Read more at https://drdrew.com/about Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 today the one and only steve-o susan dragged him into the studio so we're going to talk to steve-o in a few minutes you can't see him yet he's already posing down for you guys but but he'll be in here just moments we're also out on the twitter spaces we may have a chance to take a few calls today he has a new special that you must go out and see now at steve-o.com steve-o.com uh whoops there's somebody else's book there it it is, the bucket list, which I have seen some of so far. And I have, well, I'm going to talk to him in a few minutes about how difficult it is for me to watch his stuff. But let's get to it. Our laws as it pertains to substances are draconian and bizarre.
Starting point is 00:00:43 A psychopath started this. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction, fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous. I'm a doctor for f*** sake. Where the hell do you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician.
Starting point is 00:00:59 I observe things about these chemicals. Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Loveline all the time. Educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat. If you have trouble, you can't stop and you want to help stop it, I can help.
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Starting point is 00:02:34 on that link. There you go. Speaking of cattle, it's Steve-O in the house. Welcome, my friend. Of course, Jackass. Everyone knows. Several of you guys have sort of ascended beyond the Jackass world to your own brand. You, Wee Man, Knoxville, maybe Bam. For sure. Bam's definitely got a brand. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:01 I worry like crazy about that. I worry about him differently than I worry about you. Bam's in the news today for having received a congratulatory video from Mark Wahlberg on achieving more than 100 days of sobriety. Oh, good. That's great. Yeah. That's a long, man.
Starting point is 00:03:22 We don't need to know,'m i'm guessing he has to kind of be in a structured environment i i've lost touch with them he'll come back he will come back around i'm going to predict that all right yeah he'll come back around i mean where everybody's rooting for him all the time so he was so dangerous but then so were you i i saw as were you on corolla's show recently or something i I was. You revisited the famous night with the glass table. Yeah, the talk show appearance that keeps on giving. Yes. So let me give the short strokes.
Starting point is 00:03:55 They called me to come essentially babysit Steve. Well, you were there for the return. You weren't there when I actually did the foot to the table. I think I was there. You may have been too blocked out. Oh, okay, yeah, maybe. They sort of like, we were worried you'd get here. I think they had me do something else too, but they really wanted me when you came back. That's when they were like, you got to watch this. And so Steve went and he was mostly drunk, I think, weren't you? Yeah. And it wasn't even like an upsetting thing like i actually very deliberately planned to bring a breathalyzer
Starting point is 00:04:27 and attempt to see how high of a score i could blow so it was very deliberate i lined up all my shots i drank on very much on purpose how'd you do i think that i effectively broke the breathalyzer by blowing into it because you can't remember what the result was i think but like while i could still remember yeah it uh wouldn't function oh that's interesting and so you got in there and adam was sort of i forget what the topic was even was i was just in a complete blackout just screaming and yelling and there was a glass coffee table that i kicked my legs he just all of a sudden started had you had you tackled adam before that because there's a point in which you tackled him and knocked his chair over his host chair and then i think you came back and just started banging on the table with the back of your heel until it broke yeah and uh and adam
Starting point is 00:05:20 was laughing kind of and like trying to control things. But here's the comedy. The comedy is the producers started swirling around Adam like, oh, my God, what are we going to do? We can't air this. What are you going to do? And Adam goes, what the F are you talking about? This is the only thing people are going to remember about this show. And it's the only thing we remember about.
Starting point is 00:05:43 And we don't mean that night. We mean the entire run of the adam carolla show the only thing that gets ever brought up is steve o's night on that show so there you go yeah and also that night though um i talked to you backstage and i had a really well maybe it's the next time i think about it i think i was the next time i remember coming back you came back but i thought i felt like when you came back they had you held in a room yeah okay so this wasn't that time this was this was backstage we were talking uh-huh and uh i was like dude come on man i'm worried you
Starting point is 00:06:17 know we gotta think about you know whatever and it steve-o turned to me and he goes and he'd said something like this to me before but for some reason that particular evening stays with me. He goes, stop it. Stop it. I will. I understand. I'll have to do something one day. And when I'm ready and I do so, I will do it 100%.
Starting point is 00:06:39 There will be no half measures. I will go all the way. But in the meantime, shut f up and uh and i was like yeah yeah sure i've heard you know heard these things before right okay all right okay can't you can't force people into recovery so and maybe you want to tell your story from there yeah i mean i remember it well i i remember you reaching out about the first season of celebrity rehab but understand that was that was one of my everyone has bottoms that was one of those I remember you reaching out about the first season of celebrity rehab, but I understand that was,
Starting point is 00:07:07 that was one of my, everyone has bottoms. That was one of, that was one of my bottoms. I'm not mad at you about it, but I'm, but I'm, I, they held a gun to my head to do that.
Starting point is 00:07:16 And I was like, I don't know if you could tell. I was like, and I was like, oh, that's fine. You gotta be kidding. Thank God.
Starting point is 00:07:22 You said, no, that's sort of how I felt at the time when you reached out oh, that's fine. You got to be kidding. Thank God you said no. That's how I felt. At the time when you reached out about celebrity rehab, I remember being quite proud of myself for saying, Dr. Drew, I have too much respect for the recovery process to make a mockery of it on television. And I stand by that position. i think the show was highly exploitative oh i didn't know that you felt that way so let's talk about it i it was i mean like how do you even
Starting point is 00:07:53 have a uh like a legal contract with people who are in the condition that they're in so so that's a really important point right how does anybody consent to condition that they're in when they sign up. So that's a really important point, right? How does anybody consent to treatment when they're using drugs? Right. Anybody. So there's a lot of case law around that. And the way we dealt with that was, A, people couldn't be really loaded when it was discussed.
Starting point is 00:08:18 They had to have their attorneys, their family, their representation, everybody sign off and agree to this and the other thing about it nobody my feeling has always been if if if something is exploitative don't you think the person has been exploited would have felt exploited or would say something about it um i mean i'm not necessarily even um speaking for the the people i'm just saying that the in a big picture sense meaningful recovery and entertaining television are very much mutually exclusive concepts i understand what you're saying for you to make an entertaining tv show like you have to have people who are not in the program it cannot be about meaningful recovery otherwise you've got the
Starting point is 00:09:10 most boring program that you could possibly put on except i the only pushback i would i know what you're saying the pushback i would give you is nothing unusual happened in tree i mean in treatment do you spend enough time around treatment programs that shit goes down all the time uh and they did none of that felt unusual to me and we had you know i mean i think people understand now the opiate situation was so fucked up that people that died either died of something not related to addiction or doctors gave them opiates again and they killed them and it breaks my heart i choke on that when i say that because that happened all the time at that point so jeff mike killed by my peers straight out wow um i uh feel you know how i feel about her no big deal there was a lot of meltdowns and particularly the the sober house show was oh yeah
Starting point is 00:10:04 that was yeah that was yeah that was yeah that was way worse but you notice i was distancing myself from that sure and and to be fair these shows were going to happen anyway your involvement they didn't happen because of you no that's true they they came to me with the ideas they They were going to happen anyway. And you were there to make like a patently bad situation as, as least bad as it can be. So let me, I don't know if you know this part of the story. So,
Starting point is 00:10:36 so, so they came to me with this and I was like, well, that's an interesting idea. I sure would like to show people how this works. It's not going to happen. There's no way, but they were like, pitch, let's go, let's go, let's this works. It's not going to happen. There's no way.
Starting point is 00:10:45 But they were like, pitch, let's go, let's go, let's come on. Let's go. All right, we'll walk around.
Starting point is 00:10:49 We'll talk to people about it. And no, no, no, no. And they were like, we'll, we'll take it to your hospital. We'll do it in Las Encinas.
Starting point is 00:10:55 I was like, no, you will not. There's no way. Let us talk to the hospital. Laughed out of the room. Like, you gotta be kidding.
Starting point is 00:11:01 but they were pitching the whole time. And then VH1 shows interest. I went into hiding. I was like, oh, shit. I did not expect anybody to actually want to do this, although I liked the idea of pulling the curtain back and really showing people what treatment is. And after about two months of hiding, Bob came into my office,
Starting point is 00:11:22 and no one put him up to this. He came in, and he said, you know, I am so sick of us treating. We treated a lot of celebrities then. Nobody knew about it. But they would always, TMZ and these outlets would always be making fun of them and saying they were on some kind of spa vacation, and they were just making excuses for their behavior and all that shit that goes on. And he goes, I am so tired of these people being treated like this.
Starting point is 00:11:49 When we have them here, they're working hard. They're sick. They're getting better. We should do a TV show where we show this. And I was like, wow. I was like, wow. And I said, you really think that's what we should do? And he goes, oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:12:03 I said, well, funny thing. Somebody's going to. So I said, Bob, I will go forward. But I have lots of concerns. And we did. That's what we did. I mean, you upheld your Hippocratic oath. That is my position.
Starting point is 00:12:17 You were there to do no harm. But you were in a harmful situation. Potentially. Potentially, that's for sure. Yeah, and I think that all of the making fun of celebrities for checking into rehab as a PR move, I mean, that's a real thing. Celebrities check into rehab as a PR move all the time. I don't know that it's – do you see that? Do you actually – because I see them –
Starting point is 00:12:40 100%. 100%. Because our guys, the guys we were treating, we're not, we're just sick and we're being treated like the rest. And I think that's what Bob was talking to. And I do think,
Starting point is 00:12:55 I think people go to treatment. It's weird. I mean, you never even know what they're talking about when they say rehab now, right? Rehab just go is this general category for seeing a therapist well i mean i think that that um you hear about people going into rehab for mental health correct correct and that's just to me i always read that as they don't want to admit that uh that they're on drugs well they're this one of two things. They're either
Starting point is 00:13:25 sufficiently drug addict to meet criteria for admission. You have to meet criteria to rehab. So they are saying, if you went to a drug rehabilitation program, you are saying you're a drug addict. You have to meet those criteria. Or you were admitted to a psychiatric hospital. Right. And people will never use that term which drives me insane why do we treat psychiatric hospitals different than any other kind of hospital didn't the um the the lady from the vanderpump show no no rachel levis okay she went to like purely psychiatric thing after that whole, uh, Tom Sandoval thing. This, the scandal of all. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:07 It was called scandal. Yeah. But there's so much to talk about. We don't need to dredge up the past. But I thought that was an interesting conversation. Yeah. And, I,
Starting point is 00:14:16 to the extent that I can throw in my two cents, uh, to clear your name, you know, because I know that like, even like Robin Quivers. Oh yeah. Well, that's a different thing. It's a a different problem she's mad at you for celebrity rehab no no she really wasn't she was mad at me because my my research partner and writing partner howard called him in
Starting point is 00:14:39 to give the narcissism inventory to him and the staff. And Robin's score was the highest we'd ever seen. Oh, wow. And we presented it to her on the air. And Howard thought it was the funniest thing he'd ever heard. He thought it was the greatest thing ever. That didn't make her mad. She just was kind of pushing back on it, and they made fun of it and the usual thing.
Starting point is 00:15:00 What she got mad about, and this is my this is my fault she got mad about we then wrote about it in our book we wrote a book about narcissism and celebrity and we just reported who got the highest score who got the lowest score objectively just who got the highest score and and because it happened publicly we didn't think we needed to get consent from her but if we'd thought about it i think we would have done it we just didn't think about it because it happened publicly, we didn't think we needed to get consent from her. But if we'd thought about it, I think we would have done it. We just didn't even think about it because it was like, oh, this happened on the air. And she became furious that we printed that. That's where she took it. Wow, okay.
Starting point is 00:15:35 And so I don't blame her. I get it. She'd like people to think of her before you publish something like that. So I get it. So anyway, you're well you were going down some road here with howard robin no i mean not necessarily have you been in there lately to talk um you know i haven't and it breaks my heart it breaks my heart that um that my my relationship with the howard stern show i mean sure i've been been on the the wrap-up show yes
Starting point is 00:16:03 long but it's been just so long since i spoke to howard and that's just the nature of the of the show these days they only do it three days a week you've got to be mark walberg to to go in there i mean i'm not even sure mark walberg gets in it you got to be like a rock star of his of the 70 you have to be paul paul uh mccartney and so like you know i i i'm not mad at anybody about it but but it just breaks my heart because i had so many uh just crazy experiences there's so much history yeah and um you know like you want to um you want to matter and i just feel like i don't matter enough to go on there anymore. And so that makes me sad.
Starting point is 00:16:48 You do matter enough to go on there. Yeah. Something happened to him. I mean, it's just very selective. I think that my take on it is that once Howard went on America's got talent, he became sort of, uh,
Starting point is 00:17:11 I don't want to say this disparagingly but sanitized mainstream figure and uh and and and in that uh becoming mainstream he uh kind of changed his deal he he he still did lots of crazy shit sure but he stopped he wanted to interview like a bigger stars and so he stopped asking everybody about who they're sleeping with and how much money they make that's true and you remember that you're right that's what got him the bigger people but you remember that that he um remember that that that tape that linked that leaked where he was yeah yeah the conference with his own staff. Yeah, yeah, but really what he was saying was, I want bigger guests.
Starting point is 00:17:48 That's what he was saying. That's the bottom line. He was just asking guys to give it. I didn't see any problem with it, by the way. That's what he wants. He's an ambitious guy. Yeah, and lo and behold, he can get it, right? I mean, he has done so.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Yeah, I mean, I worship Howard. I revere him. That's just why I'm sad. So I have similar kinds of feelings. And yet, I sort of feel like it would be odd if I went in there now. I don't belong in there. I mean, I've got to believe that the feeling that the ship has sailed is with me too. But it's not about your career. And it's just about who they're interviewing now and sort of the change of vibe there. Well, no.
Starting point is 00:18:35 He wants bigger guests. I guess. Who did he have the other day and I was listening to him and I thought, well, this is kind of interesting. But I'm most interested now when he's talking to the whack pack. Right. That's still what I'm most interested. Yeah, absolutely. And I don't think they should lean into that.
Starting point is 00:18:51 I don't care about rock ballad writers from the 70s. In fact, if you really look at the lyrics of that era, oh, my God. Sexual abuse of children children misogyny yeah glorifying substance addiction of all types and nobody pushes back on led zeppelin or the eagles or people that were just doing i mean it was all about driving into town in a van and meeting a 14 year old who's barefoot and kicking her out in the morning because I'm a rambling man. What are you going to do? It's like, are you kidding me? Right.
Starting point is 00:19:33 So. Okay. So looking back on the pandemic, I noticed that the clip, which. Everybody didn't get to see that, but we were talking to Harvey Reich. But it's all right. It's all right. Harvey Reich is a famous Yale epidemiologist, brilliant dude. And he was talking about mask wearing.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Yeah, he was talking about mask wearing. wearing he said that um that scientifically the trying to prevent the spread of the coronavirus by wearing a mask is like putting up a chain link fence to keep mosquitoes out right that's right and that uh is very powerful um a very powerful visual but what killed it for me on the mask thing was a single tweet that i saw which said farts go through boxer shorts and jeans you need to publish a book of philosophy i think that's what your next move is i mean that just ended it for me as soon as i read that that farts go through boxer shorts and jeans yeah well you know what's absolutely fascinating so so listen to this this is something we've not gotten into yet on any of these streams but i'm going to be interviewing a woman who is a british not even british i think she might oh yeah she's british pathologist and she on, threw the flag, the BS flag, on what was going on
Starting point is 00:21:06 and started studying things. What's going on here? Why are we so crazy? You can't prevent transmission. You can prevent droplet transmission, but these respiratory viruses are spread by aerosols, which go 30 feet, 60 feet, and hang in the air. The masks do nothing for that or almost nothing and
Starting point is 00:21:25 she discovered that in the early days of the germ theory there was a politicization they politicized that and the the politics erred on the side of this old notion that smells carried infections they call it the miasma or something it would make sense that they do right it's intuitively makes sense and so when they finally got the germ theory in place fluids droplets contact transmission they completely vilified anyone who came up with any notion of aerosol transmission because it was the old smell transmission theory and that stayed around for a hundred years and that bias was in the system when we created these crazy ideas i mean yeah it's just such it's just such a tragedy how devastating it was to i mean like the the the effects of the pandemic are are gonna
Starting point is 00:22:29 and it's just it's never gonna go away like the way i i'm very very bearish on on the world oh tell me more dude this is an interesting talk you guys don't even have um that's not like you at all well i'm just saying like that um the like we live in an era an age of mega threats you know this guy wrote this book about mega threats that's true with the the climate change is a mega threat that debt is is probably the biggest thing you know the the disparity of wealth yeah um that that the fundamental argument um you know with with respect to debt that peter schiff makes you know that like the good sovereign debt national debt yeah yeah i mean all kinds of debt really yeah yeah but uh it's not sustainable it's uh it's it's a house of cards it's uh you
Starting point is 00:23:26 know effectively a ponzi scheme and and it's all just going to collapse and and and what drives that that kind of fundamental reality that it's all going to collapse is the printing of money and it was the pandemic that inspired more printing of money than anything in history oh my god like like there's crazy statistics like of of money in circulation right now like i don't know if uh if if the majority of it was printed in the pandemic or since the pandemic. But a significant portion. Yeah. You know what?
Starting point is 00:24:08 Do you guys have somebody who Googles in real time? Caleb, can we get some percentage of money in circulation was printed during the pandemic? Yeah. It's staggering. It's utterly staggering. And yet there are people that feel like well the problem is just money so just give people money and they just don't there's there's a do you know the story of oh shit i'm not gonna remember his name most masa muso i think
Starting point is 00:24:36 his name is i don't know about masa muso was the richest man in history he was a malian king in central africa he's a king of mali and he had so much gold and precious everything that he went on an international tour of mostly europe he wanted to see was going europe and wherever he went he just spread gold he just just handed out gold to everybody and he had crashed the economy of every town and country he visited wow he had to go back retrace his steps and buy back the gold to stabilize the economies isn't that crazy that that's amazing yeah it's a perfect for your example of how dangerous that is i mean when when you increase the the money supply yeah you devalue the money when you when you take on debt you there's only two ways to address the debt you either default or you inflate and inflate yeah
Starting point is 00:25:35 so either way like we're going the way of argentina right i hope not and you're saying with a big smile on your face, like, here we go. I'm just saying, like, how do we not, you know? And that,
Starting point is 00:25:49 like, it all factors in to my decision to get a vasectomy. Okay. It does. It does. Have you had one yet? Yeah. It's part of the bucket list. It's in the bucket list.
Starting point is 00:26:01 So, we got to talk about the bucket list. We got to take a break in a second. We'll talk all about that. but, because this, this, there's a lot of stuff I still So we got to talk about the bucket list. We got to take a break in a second. We'll talk all about that. But because this, there's a lot of stuff I still want to talk to you about. And I'm glad we're having such an interesting. Yeah, it's been too long. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:26:13 We have a lot to talk about. I love you dearly. Yeah, I love you too. And I freak the hell out when you do these things. It really like, he brings it up in the bucket list. One of his stunts is he had a guy, I said, where does this doctor, this anesthesiologist do this? In Argentina, in Mexico or something? Did you go down there?
Starting point is 00:26:33 But he did a spinal tap on Steve while he was standing up and injected a spinal anesthesia, at which point he pulled out all the material and Steve-O went on a run. Yeah, to see how far i could make it make it too far i he he brings me up as somebody he contacted to review the wisdom of this stunt you can imagine i was like i remember you saying wow do i hate that idea i hate it i hate it. I hate it. It's going to make me, it give me agita until you get to survive it. But I, I, if I did bring up,
Starting point is 00:27:10 I'm glad I did was that you can get a sending paralysis and stop breathing from these spinal tabs. Yeah. And that's why you have to be in a hospital when we do this stuff. But no, no, Steve does it out in the field and gets an ascending paralysis. Like actually in a field, literally in a field and gets an ascending paralysis like actually in a field literally in a field
Starting point is 00:27:27 where he went running were you barefoot even uh yeah i was wearing nothing but a thong and so just to add to the uh hilarity they start hitting him with tasers and and uh paintball guns yeah but i mean if you're gonna uh be paralyzed why not wake up with pain? Well, you got to figure out if it worked. Don't laugh at him. She's like, this is the problem. Women laugh at this shit. You're like, ah. It's a nervous laugh.
Starting point is 00:27:55 What's the next thing I'm going to do? It's all good. Turn to your camera. Oh, there you are. There's Susan. All right. So we'll take a little break here. We got still lots and lots to talk about.
Starting point is 00:28:06 I'm just getting on to the Rumble Rants and the Restream. I'm having trouble with my computer here. We are watching you over on Twitter Spaces. We might take a couple calls there perhaps. There's somebody named Steve there. He's not Steve O though. Oh, that's not Steve at all. All right.
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Starting point is 00:30:38 Yeah, it was over on Twitch. You said when was the last time? Oh, you can't hear you. Oh, I'm not. Damn it. Great sound person here. When was the last time Steve-O watched PCP Saved My Life? I should color this in.
Starting point is 00:30:53 PCP Saved My Life was a bonus video, which came along with my Too Hot for TV DVD. Oh, yeah. Steve-O out on bail. Don't try this at home video, volume three. And I just, I got really, really messed up on PCP at one point and made this horrific video and vowed to never watch it, but ended up watching it anyway.
Starting point is 00:31:21 I think I watched it only one time. Had you been sober for a while no no no no this was um uh it came out in 2003 i'm guessing the one time i broke down and watched it was in 2004 and never since so tell them briefly if you don't mind your story your road to sobriety okay so after so you left corolla's show we had that conversation that was 2005 and um i'm not gonna say things were still working but uh you thought they were yeah i mean uh 2005 um i i i certainly wasn't ready it did um 2006 was when the second Jackass movie came out I rolled up to the premiere with you Ron Jeremy
Starting point is 00:32:08 My dad, my four year old niece And my sister in the car Was Mike Hathaway with us there too? I don't think so I went to that one, I remember Yeah, she was there I think that's when I met you the first time I believe it
Starting point is 00:32:23 I got out of the limo, pulled out my wiener And peed all over the red carpet I think that's when I met you the first time. I believe it. I got out of the limo, pulled out my wiener, and peed all over the red carpet. I remember that. I was, yeah, that was kind of the beginning of the end. 2007 was an absolute disaster. 2008, I was actively broadcasting my downward spiral in real time yeah uh with with the the use of myspace youtube and an email list of roughly 200 people which you were on rad email the rad email list it had baba buoy it had dr drew lars orrick from i mean like every like
Starting point is 00:33:07 powerful influential person who had the misfortune of uh me getting their contact info was on it and uh yeah it just got to a point where and we all started talking we're all like oh shit what are we going to do here how do we deal deal with this? What's going on? And it was when you mentioned the motorcycle, I think. Right. I said that. I mean, in one spectacular week, I was arrested for both vandalism and felony cocaine possession. I was evicted.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Hey, good times. I had an eviction notice on my door of the get the hell out of here within three days variety and i burned up um i burned up one of those days in jail the other day on a 24-hour bender and and and the final day i uh i i swore to get footage. I said, Knoxville, bring a hot tub for me to jump out the window. Or at least bring cardboard boxes. But if you don't come, I'm jumping anyway. And I'll find out how many bones break when I splat on the concrete.
Starting point is 00:34:18 And he was not talking about jumping out a second story window. It was a second story. It would have been a 25-foot fall. And there was a point you were going to drive the motorcycle yeah that that was my idea for the living room okay yeah there's a limit so i said uh you know show up or i'm gonna jump anyway i'm ready to die and that qualified me for california's 5150 law. That was when Knoxville called me right there. And you said he qualifies for 5150, which means that he can be locked up involuntarily in the psychiatric ward for 72 hours. I don't care if you have to tie him up, beat him up, lock him in the trunk of a car, but get him to the hospital. I said, I said, you're, you're almost a hundred percent. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:05 I said, you have tied him up and beat him up many times. And I want you to do that again and get him to the hospital. This is not something you've never done with Steve. So let's do it now and save his life. And Knoxville is like done and done. So Knoxville responded to my email to the 200 people. I think he responded to the 200 people i think he responded all 200 people too where i demanded that he come with the hot tub and or the cardboard boxes and he wrote uh
Starting point is 00:35:33 what's with the early call times sheesh can we make it noon because i think i had said 10 a.m and uh he said can we make it noon and uh the reason why he wanted to push the time to noon uh was to get organized with eight people to to show up for the intervention but yeah i scheduled my own intervention without knowing it yeah and i've been clean and sober ever since that's great yeah yeah yeah and he's years and and to to highlight what he said at adam's show he went oh i've never i read you know the only other person i've seen do that really was uh believe it or not jack osborne okay and he was 17 at the time and i was like oh you know he goes he he kept saying just tell me what to do and i'll do it. I was like, well, okay, but I'm not sure you'll do it.
Starting point is 00:36:26 And he did it. He did everything I told him to do. You know, only recently have I been more liberal about naming you in my story. And to color this in, my first time in rehab was 1995. I didn't know that. I was only 20 years old. My mom. You were in clown school then or something.
Starting point is 00:36:50 No, that was years before clown school. Oh, I didn't know. It was 1995, 20 years old. And I got locked up for drunk driving. My mom said that she wouldn't bail me out of jail unless I went directly to rehab. So while I was in this rehab in 1995, one of the counselors said something to the effect of, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:11 95% of alcoholics never achieve long-term sobriety. He said these dismal statistics. And I remember thinking like, wow, even if I was really into the idea, I would have like a 5% chance. And I made a conscious, deliberate decision.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Screw it. Screw it. I've seen that that i've seen it happen a lot yeah those statistics yeah they're getting me loaded for another 13 years i have no doubt and then when i was in that psychiatric ward and they changed my status to 52 50 so i was in the psychiatric ward long enough to kind of come to realize that it was time. Two weeks. Once I made that decision, it was the very same statistics that now were going to keep me sober. Oh, interesting. Because I knew that the odds were very badly against me. I knew only 5% of alcoholics and addicts achieve long,
Starting point is 00:38:06 long-term sobriety or some somewhere in that, you know, vicinity. And so I knew that if I had, if, that if I was going to do this, that I had to give myself every advantage. And I went from the psychiatric ward at Cedars-Sinai hospital,
Starting point is 00:38:22 which doesn't even exist anymore, straight to your hospital las encinas and when i got to your hospital um you were the the the director of the chemical dependency unit meaning that you ran the rehab i said to you i said i i don't want to waste my time. I said, I know the odds are not in my favor. And if I'm going to do this, I do not want to waste my time. So I want to give myself every advantage I possibly can. And that's why, Drew, I said, however long you recommend that I stay in Las Encinas, this rehab, I want to stay significantly longer to give myself a better chance at getting this right. I want to be in that 5%.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Where you really gave yourself that chance was when you went to the Sober Living. Exactly what you said. You said, I'd love to hear that. I'd love to hear that you're so committed. But you said that you did not recommend that I stay in Las Encinas Hospital for more than 30 days. You said, however, after that 30 days, I strongly recommend that you go into a sober living, into a safe, structured environment. And usually I won't tell people how long I'm thinking at that point because it overwhelms them. But I was thinking in my head, minimum one year. I never imagined you'd stay two, which was like, oh, you're going to do fine. Because the longer, the more, the better.
Starting point is 00:39:50 It's very simple. I've never, ever heard of somebody staying in sober living for too long. No, it's never happened. It's never happened. There's no such thing. And I've also never heard of anybody who stayed in sober living until they had two years of sobriety not still being sober to this very day. Especially after their initial treatment. That was like, that's exceptional.
Starting point is 00:40:14 So congratulations. Yeah. And I think even in my book, I don't even know if in my book I identified you as the chemical dependency. It's whatever you feel. It's whatever you're feeling. Yeah. I've certainly never like in, like in,
Starting point is 00:40:33 in the recovery sort of community. I don't like it doesn't name you. Yeah. But yeah, like you were, you were part of my, my journey and I remember way back then, like you wouldn't, even though you ran the, the unit ran the unit, you wouldn't be my doctor.
Starting point is 00:40:51 You said, because I'm your friend, I can't be your doctor. So it was the guy Bloom. Blum. Blum. And Dr. Blum was my doctor. And we had this thing, like we're friends. It's not a doctor-patient thing. But then at some point, and specifically in 2019, I came to you to get an HIV test. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Because my fiancé was just furious with me that I had given somebody a tattoo without wearing gloves. Yes. And it made no sense to me. furious with me that I had given somebody a tattoo without wearing gloves. Yes. And I was, it made no sense to me. I was like all choked up on the tattoo machine. Like I didn't even get any ink on myself. Like I, it was the tiniest quickest I wrote. I tattooed yo mama's name on a guy's butt cheek. Like, and, uh, she's like, oh, we can't have, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:43 we can't have sex without a condom for six months. And you got to go get tested. And so I came in, went to your doctor's office. Yeah, yeah. And took my blood, ran the panel. I asked for two test tubes. Was that that time? Yeah, I remember giving you the extra blood.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Yeah, I was like, can I just get a couple extra test tubes just in case I come up with an idea? Lo and behold, he did. And ever since then, I've identified you as my primary care physician. Well, you remember we had another chapter that way. Oh, yeah. But that was a long, long time ago. It was. But I do get your colonoscopy.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Cardiomyopathy. I get your colonoscopies and all that stuff, which I love because I'm thinking, oh good, he's taking care of himself. That's all I really care about is you're getting, maybe it's time to get your PSAs done too. We haven't, I don't think you've done that. Yeah, you know, I've got so many questions.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Are you familiar with this story about Dana White going to a guy who with like notorious accuracy, like predicts how long you're going to live. With blood work, with whatever. I'm not even sure. You're talking about Gary Brekker? Not even sure what they do. There are people that have sort of actuarial sorts of data like that who worked for insurance companies where that was their job wow and they're pretty good at it you know it was told that he had 10 years or less to live wow and just about
Starting point is 00:43:15 face i've done like complete 180 like the like visually to look at him he's leaned out quite a bit oh my god if you can bring up an image of dana white's before and after yeah like he and and i was at the fight um in madison square garden i met this lady she identified herself as the wife of the the guy who did this and i'm dying to get in there i'm dying to get in there and and'm dying to get in there and figure out what I can do to increase, to pull the Dana White. Longevity is an interesting area. I, I will give you a book.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Is Outlive here? The book Outlive. Peter Atiyah is your best scientist. And he, he, and he, he does increase people's library. Okay okay you have to pay a ton to go get evaluated by them but was it peter that did it was it peter maybe sage well sage is sage is
Starting point is 00:44:14 the wife that's that's gary brekka's wife okay yeah so so but peter attia is a cancer surgeon who now dedicates his life to longevity is sage working yeah we know sage very well and and it and we and he wrote a book called outlive and if you're really interested in this stuff it's the best scientific breakdown of this stuff is this so i'm going to give you that book my version i love it this is dana yeah yeah like yeah that that's on the right and then that's him on the left now yeah it's insane wow you know what else i've been been uh really interested in you said that i should go to an endocrinologist to get my testosterone checked and see if i if i'm a candidate for trt i don't know why i told you that but i but i i maybe you said that that's what mike catherwood
Starting point is 00:45:03 did went to yes he has he has a very good person for that, yes. You don't recommend that I go to an endocrinologist? No, you've got to go to somebody who specializes in this area, who really kind of knows what they're doing with it. But I do know, yes, we can get you that referral if you want. If I didn't have prostate cancer, I'd go on testosterone. Okay. I would.
Starting point is 00:45:21 If I go on testosterone, does that mean that I have to be on it for the rest of my life? No. But you'll lose the benefits when you come off. And you don't want to get more than just going to normal. Pellet therapy. You may be. This is a little different than pellet necessarily.
Starting point is 00:45:37 But in any event, it's a complicated area. Steve, did you get stem cell? I did. Okay. What did you get? That's what Gary Brekka does. Okay. Yeah, Gary does.
Starting point is 00:45:47 I'm getting stem cells on my shoulder next week. I went down to Medellin, Colombia. To get the fancy ones, yeah. To go to BioAccelerator. Now, was that through Jason Ellis? I had it in Costa Rica. It was amazing. Was that Jason Ellis?
Starting point is 00:46:02 Did they use the placenta? No, not placenta, umbilical cord. Umbilical cord, yeah. Yeah. That's what they use for me. Yeah, nothing controversial about that. They don't do it in the United States. They only use the umbilical cord of perfectly healthy babies.
Starting point is 00:46:20 And then the alternative is to throw away the umbilical cord. Right, right. So it's not like people think, oh, it umbilical cord right right so it's not like uh you know people think oh it's like dead babies abortion like it's not like did it work did you like it i i don't know i i don't know if it worked you're just in pain all the time it's not that i'm in pain all the time and it wasn't jason ellis who's who got me there it was uh my my buddy danny way is the skateboard legend so that's all the same guys go down to the same group. It's all the UFC writers, skateboarders.
Starting point is 00:46:49 So the thing about stem cells I've learned is that the guys that are doing the local injections, harvesting your own stem cells, your own bone marrow, your own fat and stuff, that's what I'm having done. And they have pretty good results, but there's no money to fund randomized controlled trials because there's no pharmaceutical company fund randomized controlled trials because there's no pharmaceutical company is interested in it right well that's the thing is is crazy as i understand it um people think that the stem cell uh issue is is is one of uh about abortion yeah but it's not that nonsense and and the reason that i had to go to
Starting point is 00:47:25 columbia to get the stem cell treatment is because it's not legal right america and again it's not legal in america because there anything there's anything controversial about where the stem cells come from correct what's controversial is that the pharmaceutical the orthopedic like the whole medical complex has no interest in... Well, I would argue it was the Bush administration that did that. No money to be made? No, it's worse. It's worse. I listen to RFK Jr. now,
Starting point is 00:47:56 and I am persuaded that there's too cozy a relationship between all these, the government and these regulators and the pharmaceutical industry. And so the fact that they put a kibosh on that has something to do with that cozy thing there's more money in cutting people up and selling them drugs well there certainly isn't money in being available to do randomized control trial and something that they're not gonna make money off of it just won't do it so okay so we've got way way way um but we've gone all over the place here don't we have ads or something oh we i did it oh we did we've been talking a lot longer than you realize
Starting point is 00:48:33 oh yeah i don't remember oh it just it just goes oh my god i'm i'm kind of jet lagged okay i just we flew in late last night a little off so you off. So you stayed sober. You're sober. I've been clean and sober for more than 15 years and sexually sober for almost seven years. So you did that. That was a while ago, though. You were way into that, right? That was right at the beginning of your sobriety. I got sober in 2008.
Starting point is 00:49:03 And I went to my IOP for sexual addiction in 2013. Okay. And evidently that was longer than seven years ago. Yeah. So it's a little bit more el uh elusive the sexual yeah it's it's much like eating disorders and things like that right it's you have it's you have to manage slippery behaviors right really what it is and it's hard sorry and it's so so worth it man like honestly i'd like with chemical sobriety you know putting down the drugs and alcohol i i
Starting point is 00:49:48 i really view that as like a bachelor degree type thing and then you move on to you know it becomes a like addiction whack-a-mole you know like it pops up in some other area well what i what i call that is recovery versus full recovery okay Like a full recovery is somebody that creates the trauma, does the therapy, looks at the sexual stuff, does the interpersonal work. And that takes time. It takes forever to do all that stuff. And your sobriety has got to be kicking in alongside of it.
Starting point is 00:50:18 And that has its own arc and changes, right? 15 or 10 and 15, those are big years, I know. Well, let's be honest. It drives me nuts when people say like what what can be expected from a certain amount of time yeah and sobriety because like recovery is like uh it's like fitness you know let's say you become a member of a gym you've been a member of a gym for five years there's no uh expectation for like where you're going to be at in your fitness five years later it's all about how much work you
Starting point is 00:50:50 put in yeah over the course of those five years agreed uh i bring up those milestones though just because i have noticed people have certain kinds of issues at different stages of the thing um but back to peter attia and outlive okay Don't let me forget to give you that book. He, I was, I was, you talked about longevity and there's a lot of stuff about longevity out there. People taking metformin, people taking testosterone. And, and I, and I was sort of bugging him about this stuff. And finally he snapped at me and he goes, vigorous exercise, vigorous exercise.
Starting point is 00:51:24 That's the only thing reliably will increase longevity. Sorry, buddy. And dogs. And dogs will help. But we have to maintain our muscle mass. We have to also manage our diet a little bit because you'll usually do that when you're working
Starting point is 00:51:42 out the way Dana White did. But you will lose muscle mass as you age and it's a really critical piece of living a long time okay so that's the thing and you i want you to read the book he gets into all the details and stuff and then of course medical screening colonoscopies regular psa regularly managing your cholesterol blood pressure all that kind of stuff so it's all very very very important in terms of optimizing longevity and then you know charlie munger who just died kept saying and he kept saying you know my biggest risk is fall and he's right that was the most highest probability of somebody his age dying is from a fall wow and so and his partner warren buffett said break a sweat every day
Starting point is 00:52:21 oh is that right yeah that's he's right. He's absolutely correct about that. That's vigorous exercise. Yeah, there it is. Do something that causes you to sweat every single day. Now, whether we will come up with, there's something called rapamycin that's been advocated. There's a lot of things that have been advocated. I take something called nicotinamide riboside, NR. I think that's a real thing. I've talked to the chemists that develop it.
Starting point is 00:52:45 It goes at the oxidative state of our mitochondria, which is sort of tied into aging. I don't know. If there's one thing, if you had to point out one thing, other than maintaining my blood pressure and watching my lipids and all that stuff and making sure my prostate cancer is properly treated, that's the one thing I think I'm doing. Working out with V-Shred.
Starting point is 00:53:04 I work out every day with V-Shred. I do that. But I've been in our stuff for a long time. And whenever somebody says, hey, you look younger than your age, I always think, I wonder. I wonder if that's it. So anyway, yeah, V-Shred, I've lost 16 pounds. I'm due to lose some weight.
Starting point is 00:53:23 I'm due to lose some weight. I mean, that's the thing lose some, some weight. I'm due to lose some weight. I mean, that's the thing is that with, you know, chemical sobriety and then the, the, the sexual acting out, you know, the amount of time and energy that goes into staying loaded is a lot, but you know, like the amount of time and energy that goes into to acting out sexually it's an incredible time suck and then on top of that the amount of of stress and shame and guilt that just piles up it uh i mean it's and i really recognized that that was it was it was it expensive financially too yeah
Starting point is 00:54:07 it can be it sure can be when people get into the sexual addictions yeah i wasn't like of the you know the paying for sex varieties oh i thought which is i thought you're talking about substance addiction i didn't really yeah i thought you're talking about substance addiction i was thinking about the cost of that being expensive. Oh, you can't hear him. He's asking, was drug addiction expensive? Oh, sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:34 You had lots of nitrous, man. You had lots of nitrous. And I wasn't aware that's what you were doing. I thought it was all alcohol and stimulants. And nitrous will make you crazy. I was a real trash can. The, so as I approached 40 years old, I thought,
Starting point is 00:54:50 you know, man, it's scary. The idea of becoming an aging attention whore, you know, and, and, and the,
Starting point is 00:54:59 like just the, to be happy lady, it just, I felt like I was really not, this is not it. You know, this is not a good look. It's not the way I'm going to be happy. I felt like I was really not, this is not it. This is not a good look. It's not the way I'm going to be happy. I subscribed to the idea, and this probably plays into longevity in a big way,
Starting point is 00:55:13 that learning how to be in a healthy relationship, finding a life partner, a solid, healthy relationship. Absolutely. Are you guys married yet? Not yet. I wear an engagement ring. Is that happening soon? Yeah, we bought our property
Starting point is 00:55:25 and uh that's been our thing we want to open up an animal sanctuary you've been talking about that for a long time been waiting to get get married on that we bought it we got a big big ranch in tennessee now tennessee is it near nashville or anything somewhat near nashville so if we travel if we come is it going to be a public wedding can we we go? It's not a public wedding, but you're invited. I mean, friends, friends. We love Tennessee. Our son went to Vanderbilt, and so we've been there a lot. Epic.
Starting point is 00:55:52 So yeah, I mean, I am subscribed to the idea that I needed to be able to have a healthy relationship. I think that most people's problem, they think that they're looking for the right person when in reality, it's about becoming the right person. That was my mantra, is that I was going to do the work to become the man that the love of my life deserves. And it took a long time to do that. But it's also picking the right person, and you did.
Starting point is 00:56:24 I know you were very in love from the beginning. But then become the person that time to do that. But it's also picking the right person, and you did. I know you were very in-depth in the beginning. Yeah. But then become the person that's worthy of that. For sure. That's a really good way to look at these things. Yeah, well, I had to become the person preemptively. Otherwise, meeting the right person would have been useless. So had you made a lot of progress before?
Starting point is 00:56:41 Okay. That's why when I got out of the IOP, and they said that it was recommended to do a period of celibacy. that's why when i got out of the iop and they said that it was recommended to do a period of celibacy which you did for a while yeah dude they said like 30 to 90 days yeah i did 431 days wow good for you i did not blow a load for the entire year of 2014 did god take care of it for you at any point you know like in my in my dreams yeah i would be like about to have a wet dream and i'd be like oh i can't lose my time i'm too guilty i'm too guilty yeah and and
Starting point is 00:57:12 so like i think that that's the most freeing thing for me that like i that it frees up my time i'm free from from the the stress of like, what health concerns do I have now? Like what jeopardy have I put somebody in? So I better go hang off a helicopter and do all that shit now. Right. Since I've got my other health together, I need a bucket list tour.
Starting point is 00:57:38 It's incredible how, like when you don't waste your time and and when you channel your energy deliberately into accomplishing your goals so somebody's asking did you get aggressive to get in fights of during my oh my god not not in fights but i'm irritable unbelievably irritable i would throw the craziest temper tantrums on people for talking in comedy clubs while I was performing, or people for videoing the show with their cell phone. God, I would snap. And that hasn't even improved that much. If I'm honest, man, I'm too much of an attention whore for people to disrupt my show and just be cool about it all right so let's talk
Starting point is 00:58:25 about where you're at where people can find you and what they'll what they'll see in the bucket list the bucket list is actually a a love story about my relationship with my girl the items on my bucket list i mean by the way you open with that yeah well you almost kill yourself getting roses to her right when i say almost kill yourself almost kills himself like multiple times to get her these roses and i watch that shit i just can't i have to oh my god i can't watch you do it it's it's it works there's your Lux for your surgery, which was two days ago. Two days ago, yeah. So the bucket list is a multimedia comedy special. It's very high quality. Super high quality.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Lux, my girl, is the production designer. She came up with ideas for all the TV sets in the background. So let me gush a little bit. The stunts that are not on stage are cinematic i mean like tom cruise cinematic uh and then when you go into the audience and proscenium that's fun as hell that's a very cool environment it's a lot of tv sets a lot of TV sets. A lot of, it just feels like you, frankly. It's, it's, it's, it's the culmination of all of, of my, my work in every area. And, and I'm, I'm just so thrilled with it. The stunts on my bucket list were things that for the most part, I would never have been allowed to do for jackass, like epidural sprints, you know, like stolen general anesthesia being administered while
Starting point is 01:00:05 i'm riding a bicycle oh that was the other one you called me about yeah um ejaculating simultaneously while falling out of an airplane as is the custom as people often do right um so the the the there are vignettes like this like stunt videos which pay off each bit and as the show unfolds the bucket list items uh happen in descending order of my fiance's approval so in in the beginning she's front and center making it happen it happen. She's in the bus when you fall out of the helicopter. Involved, participating. Then she shows up begrudgingly. Then she stops showing up entirely.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Then she's nowhere near and has serious problems with what's happening. And then we're navigating dire conflict. Oh, did you guys start fighting about it? Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah, and we emerged navigating dire conflict. Oh, did you guys start fighting about it? Well, yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah, and we emerged stronger than ever. Sounds like Drew and me after 30 years. Am I doing stuff that you have to?
Starting point is 01:01:15 We fight about different things. Caleb's laughing at us. I don't want to ejaculate flying out of an airplane. That was the toughest one for my lady because uh because i had another i was i was jacking off with another man strapped to my back in an airplane full of dudes oh yeah which which required uh some some help now i swore right a couple of dudes had to give you oral sex but uh as part of my um my recovery like like i stopped watching pornography no i remember that i think that is just super destructive like i recognize for me i mean i
Starting point is 01:01:51 know like each addict will define their sobriety as it relates to sex addiction but uh for me like for me pornography is yellow light behavior but i just don't go there yeah and it god knows what it's doing to young people and things oh my god no idea and like just philosophically it's a to i just can't be channeling my energy away from my relationship it's destructive well that's it's i'm i i suspect you learned that in the treatment which the the sort of construct is if you any anything that diverts you from the primary relationship diminishes the intimacy of the primary relationship for sure and i mean like like one partner like every time you turn on to some porn site it's like a different person it's like a different experience like like uh it's tough for for one partner to compete with that and and uh you know not only
Starting point is 01:02:47 are you diverting the energy from your relationship and diminishing the the connection in your relationship but you find like that it's almost you lose interest did you um have an intimacy disorder in some sense i'm'm sure. Yeah, yeah. Because a sex addiction often causes that. Yeah. Addictive stuff. What's always amazed me, though, is in the first step, there's a whole big sexual inventory, right?
Starting point is 01:03:15 Right. I'm always amazed nobody does that properly. In the first step of SAA? No, of drug recovery. You're talking about the fourth step. No, they'll usually give you an inventory in the first step but we at least in our workbooks and the fourth step is where you come to you know you really come to terms with it but i'm always amazed how people just like and then to see here
Starting point is 01:03:36 you know it's it's hard for them wow that's interesting i've never heard about a sex inventory in step one of uh usually just to sort of get people thinking about it you know get kind of kind of oh look there's something going on here too maybe i mean for for me like when taking somebody through a step one like a writing assignment it's uh you know a powerlessness list and then an unmanageability list and so for the powerlessness list like like i ask for the the most comprehensive list of promises that that the person made to themselves with respect to their drinking and using that they went on to break and that these should not be just purely directly related, but indirectly related as well. So like how I promised myself I would never snort cocaine.
Starting point is 01:04:32 I promised myself I'd never shoot up. Yeah, that's direct. But then I promised myself I would never steal from my mom, like cheat on my girl. So I see where that could get into sex yes yes exactly it's it's and people just aren't really even aware of it they just don't they don't think about it because that they kind of i think sometimes early recovery people save certain outlets they save things for you know they don't realize that's what they're doing yeah bob forrest
Starting point is 01:05:03 developed a gambling problem early not even early in his recovery, like later in his recovery. How's Bob doing? I've been trying to reach him for like six months or four months. He hasn't called me back. So I think he's okay. No news is good news with Bob. Yeah, I've heard secondarily he's doing okay. But we should both reach out to him.
Starting point is 01:05:19 It's been too long. Well, listen, we could talk all day. Susan, anything you want to ask Steve about? It's been a while since we've had a chance to chat and so we have lots of talk how's wendy she's so great i mean like it just breaks my heart this is the dog that i found in the streets of peru that's crazy more than six years ago well rex is under there he's enjoying the show under your feet yeah um let me ask you quickly with uh my knee i had a meniscus repair partially torn meniscus i was told that um that this the surgery was elective that i could they said some people will just go to physical therapy other people will
Starting point is 01:06:02 will do the surgery to clean up yes to clean were you getting a lot of clicking a lot of sticking not a lot of clicking but um he said that we'll go in and clean it up yeah it's uh it's it's effectively a minimally invasive surgery arthroscopic yeah yeah but it's but it's not a big one it's just it's just going in it's great yeah they said i'll only be on crutches for two days. Yeah. And then. I can see it's not very swollen either. It's looking pretty good. Six weeks of physical therapy and then I'm back full force. Yep.
Starting point is 01:06:30 My question for you is, am I actually going to be back full force? Will I be able to like skateboard aggressively? Yes. That's a qualified yes. Don't quote me on this. It depends how your physical therapy goes. Okay. So if you.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Wear an e-brace brace maybe or a pad so i guess that the operative question is does the meniscus get rebuilt through physical therapy i'm guessing it wasn't a through and through tear it wasn't but but the dog what i remember in my probe of probe of all days uh after the After the surgery, the doctor said that the torn piece of the meniscus had been folded under. Yeah, there's usually little pieces that flip up and things that cause irritation. So getting that off will make things a lot better. Right, so I did well to get the surgery. Yes, for sure. It would have been bothering you forever otherwise.
Starting point is 01:07:20 Yeah. Did it swell up sometimes too it does not swell up but but what what distinctly happened was uh some some days i was like just debilitated by it you know like limping hobbling and other days i felt like oh wow it's better yeah yeah yeah so uh you shouldn't have days like that anymore the bad ones good you may not be perfect but you won't have that you know the thing is that there was no stunt or like like the moment this is just old man shit it's old man shit but there probably was something you just didn't know you know what you know i i didn't on the ranch in tennessee you have the ranch you got it oh my god yeah there's a there's a dirt trail that goes around the ranch, and it's got inclines and up the
Starting point is 01:08:05 cliff. And I bought a mountain bike to go ride around it. And I was on an uphill piece and just determined, I'm not going to get off the bike and walk it. Come hell or high water, I'm going to dig and fight and ride up the... And I was just pushing way too hard to get up that hill. That might have been it. I think that's when it was.
Starting point is 01:08:26 You know, Catherinewood lives in a ranch now in Austin. Yeah, you should talk to him about the experience. Yeah. That'd be great. Yeah, I love it, man. Like, I'm not ready to live there. Like, it's not like a tax move at this point. There's no way that I want to do six months in one day in Tennessee.
Starting point is 01:08:40 Like, I got to live in LA, but I want to set it up gradually and and to be there to pull the rip cord will somebody else run it um we already we already have uh somebody taking care of uh our pig it's just a pig you talked about it originally you were going to raise dogs or something we inherited a pig and a cat and and the whole idea is we want to have like a full animal sanctuary just all kinds of animals. Yeah, all kinds of farm animals. Why did I get the impression there's a lot of dogs in here? Our home in the Hollywood Hills is an animal sanctuary starter kit.
Starting point is 01:09:16 We went from four dogs down to two. We lost two dogs to old age. We still have three cats, three goats. We have a little barn. Does the city know you have goats? I don't know what you're talking about. Rex thinks it's funny. We've had goats since 2019.
Starting point is 01:09:36 Fantastic. Our little three goats. We love animals. It's our whole deal. Good. Well, listen, great to see you. Thank you for coming in. I appreciate you being here. Please, everybody, go see the bucket list. Go get a steveo.com right now.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Get that bucket list. There it is. It's worth your time, and it's worth supporting Steve-O and his bucket list experience. Well, thank you. It's genuinely the greatest, craziest shit I've ever made in my life. I really wanted to show the opening sequence because if you watch just the opening sequence,
Starting point is 01:10:11 you'll be all the way in. You can't not keep going. And then it transitions so beautifully into the theater thing, so it's just like, oh, yeah. Thank you. We're long overdue to have you on the hit Wild Ride with Steve-O podcast. All right, I'm in. I would love that. We're long overdue to have you on the hit Wild Ride with Steve-O podcast. Yes. All right.
Starting point is 01:10:25 I'm in. I would love that. And as you know, we can bring the studio straight to you. All right. We'll do that again. It's been a bit. All right. Hey, I love you guys.
Starting point is 01:10:32 And Scott's still with you? Yes. Yep. Fantastic. All right. We love Steve-O. Susan, anything? No.
Starting point is 01:10:38 That's it. All right. Caleb, on your standpoint, let's go look up the, throw up the schedule there for what's coming. We have Tom Renz, I believe, on Monday standpoint, let's go look up the, let's throw up the schedule there for what's coming. We have Tom Renz, I believe on Monday. Is that right? Or the fourth, which is Monday. Nicole and Jemmy, who you're going to love.
Starting point is 01:10:53 And Dr. Victory comes back with Ed Dowd. We're not going to do anything from Las Vegas this week. Is that? Oh yeah, we are. Yeah. So we have some. That's Monday and Tuesday.
Starting point is 01:11:03 Oh, careful, Steve-O, don't fall. Oh, those two shows are from Las Vegas. Steve's leaving us. He's going to trip down the stairs. Are you running out? Yeah, Monday and Tuesday. We do it from V-Shred headquarters in Las Vegas. I see.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Okay, we're doing that. And then are we back on Wednesday? It looks like we are. He's trying to get Georgina to wake up. She's just laying like a dead potato. Georgina. Can we put her in yours? She has Cushing's in yours she has Cushing's can she go in your sanctuary but yeah we we inherited her from my mom and she was terribly obese when my mom died and we got her
Starting point is 01:11:39 sort of leaned up to this and we were like what's going going on? We think she's got Cushing's. What's the excuse for Rex? So Drew, I want you to help make sure Steve doesn't fall down the stairs. Alright, let me go. I'm going to sign out. See everyone. Where are we? What day is today? I have no idea where we are. Today's Friday. We'll see you Monday. Monday at 3 o'clock from Las Vegas.
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