Ask Dr. Drew - The Day My Brother Was Murdered: Inconvenient Truths of Violent Crime In Liberal Cities w/ Gianno Caldwell, Rep. Wesley Hunt, Emilie Hagen – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 503
Episode Date: July 6, 2025“Zohran Mamdani calls violence a social construct. Nobody understands better than Gianno Caldwell how real and deadly violence can be,” writes Meghan McCain. “Gianno puts it best: if this is Mam...dani’s platform, he’s not ready for the big time.” Texas Rep. Wesley Hunt discusses his shutdown of Bill Maher with unapologetic patriotism and a stirring contrast between Trump and Biden. Gianno Caldwell talks about violent crime and his book “The Day My Brother Was Murdered”. Emilie Hagen gives the latest update on the P Diddy trial and verdict from outside the NY courtroom. Rep. Wesley Hunt is a U.S. Congressman representing Texas’ 38th District and a U.S. Army veteran. More at https://x.com/RepWPH Gianno Caldwell is a Fox News political analyst and founder of Caldwell Institute. His book The Day My Brother Was Murdered is available now. More at https://caldwellinstitute.org Emilie Hagen is a journalist reporting on the Diddy trial. She shares insights on her platform, Emily Knows Everything on Instagram. More at https://instagram.com/emilieknowseverything 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 Find out more about the brands that make this show possible and get special discounts on Dr. Drew's favorite products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors • ACTIVE SKIN REPAIR - Repair skin faster with more of the molecule your body creates naturally! Hypochlorous (HOCl) is produced by white blood cells to support healing – and no sting. Get 20% off at https://drdrew.com/skinrepair • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at https://drdrew.com/fatty15 • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley • VSHREDMD – Formulated by Dr. Drew: The Science of Cellular Health + World-Class Training Programs, Premium Content, and 1-1 Training with Certified V Shred Coaches! More at https://vshredmd.com/ • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Welcome everybody. I'm very excited to welcome to the program Congressman Wesley Hunt, Texas
38th district. He is breaking away from the vote in the House sufficiently to spend a
little time with us here. So we are very pleased that he chose to join us. You can follow him W-E-S-L-E-Y Hunt TX and also Rep WPH.
He is a walking example of patriotism.
We're also gonna have a report from,
Emily knows everything, from the courtroom when the-
when the-
Verdict.
Not the verdict, the punishment is meted out.
And then we have John-
The punishment.
John O'Caldwell, he's a friend of mine,
he's also a political analyst,
he's a Fox host contributor, and he wrote a book the day my brother was murdered
We will get into that and the foundation he set up that he was motivated to spend because of that day
We'll be with him and
congressman Wesley Hunt right after this
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United States versus Sean Combs.
Not guilty, racketeering.
Not guilty, sex trafficking by force, fraud, or coercion.
Not guilty by, this is number four,
this must be on each of the different victims.
Not guilty by sex trafficking by force, fraud, or coercion.
And three and five, transportation,
or engaging in prostitution.
He was guilty on both counts.
So that's interesting.
I kind of predicted this.
I didn't think in terms of there being a separate,
I thought they would get sort of all the way down the line,
not guilty.
I didn't realize they could,
I didn't think in terms of them finding each one different.
But it's pretty hard to find him not guilty
of transportation
to engage in prostitution
because the facts were just there.
All right, let's get to the Congressman.
The victim admitted it.
Congressman Wesley Hunt, I heard him.
Welcome, sir.
Thank you for joining us.
I'll thank you all for having me.
I really appreciate you.
Thank you so much.
So listen, I saw you talking to Bill Maher
and I just thought, I must know this man.
I've got to talk to him.
Bill is an old friend of mine and I texted him,
I said, I think I really like Wesley Hunt.
And he goes, I understand.
And you've just, to me, you're like a walking embodiment
of the positive attitude I think most Americans should have.
And so I wanted you to help me by describing how you became that way and then what you
think we ought to do to go at some of the crazy negativity and division that is eating
us up these days.
Oh my gosh.
Well, first of all, thank you so much.
And then I have to give a shout out to Bill Maher just to thank him for even
having guys like me even on his show.
Now, obviously we kind of come from different views.
We wouldn't necessarily see the world the same way.
But the fact that he would give me an opportunity on his platform to at least
hear me out and to be able to express my opinion really kind of means a lot to me.
And so I kind of owe him a lot for that.
Um, a lot of the reason why I mean, Congressman, I would interrupt you real
quick, I know Bill,
well, that's not a surprise. He is a thinking man. He's an open-minded man. He wants to
understand the truth. And he has things. He's got Trumped arrangement and other things, but
and he's got his point of view. But he wants to get at the truth. And I'm not surprised he had
you in there. So yes, I'm glad at all. and then one thing for Bill too that I watched the show for years
actually and he's a fellow Cornellian like myself I saw him actually give a do
one of the shows at Cornell while I was in grad school there when he came back
back I think 2012 or 11 the one thing he's always adamant about is taking
people for their service he thanks people for the military service
countlessly and you could tell he means it from the heart.
So again, I owe him a lot, even for him having me on to even hear our views.
You're absolutely right about him.
He's been doing he's been very consistent for decades.
Part of the reason why I am who I am and why I'm here is just basically because of my parents.
One thing I always talk about, you know, in this country and then all the stuff that we're
dealing with and all the all the ideas and, and opinions is people talk about privilege this country and all the stuff that we're dealing with and all the ideas
and opinions is people talk about privilege a lot.
Well, to me, there's really two privilege points.
There's American privilege.
Thank God that you're born in this country to even be given an opportunity because you
could be like billions and billions of other people that do not have the opportunity to
actually be born in a free country, in a free nation, in the land
of opportunity, where only in a handful of generations you can go from nothing to something,
hell, in one generation.
You can go from nothing to something, and that really only happens in America.
And then I'll talk about parent privilege.
I had a two-parent conservative home that taught us about hard work, grit, determination,
education, raised us in a church.
And that's why I always bring up my siblings. You know, my brother, sister, and I, all three of us
went to West Point. All three of us graduated from West Point. All three of us served this country.
And so when you have parents that raise you and they discipline you and they don't teach you how
to be a victim in this country but that you can be
whatever you want to be should you put your mind to it well then by God the sky is the limit and
the one thing I always talk about is my great great grandfather being born on a rose down plantation
rose down plantation is a plantation that still exists today it's about 30 miles north of Baton
Rouge Louisiana that's where my great-great-grandfather was born.
Three of his great-great-grandchildren
went to West Point.
Three of his great-great-grandchildren
served this country to the tune of over 60 years worth
of military service just in my immediate family.
One of his great-great-grandchildren, me,
became a United States congressman as a Republican
in a white majority district in a suburb of
Houston, Texas.
Now, ain't that America?
And I don't want anybody to talk about the ills of our past when we have come such a
long way.
And I want to continue to build on this progress.
And I think that's the message that not just black Americans or Hispanic Americans or Asian
Americans or white Americans want to hear all Americans want to hear the idea of progress
in this country and continuing to build upon that.
Other than your inspiring story and positivity,
what do we do to, I mean, you've got a lot of people
in those chambers with you that are sort of quite negative
and quite seem to hate this country
and yet they're representing it. How do we take those people and gaff them on board with you that are sort of quite negative and quite seem to hate this country and yet they're representing it.
How do we take those people and gaff them on board with you?
Well, again, you have to call them out for what it is. I mean, they hate this country so much yet they are
representing their district and there's only
435 people of us that are in this position. This country is so heinous,
it is so bad to you that you have the honor of being a United States congressman in this position. This country is so heinous, it is so bad to you
that you have the honor of being a United States
congressman in this great nation.
So again, I really wish that most of them would just say,
thank you and be on their merry way.
Also, when people understand that we have this free country
because people died for it, you should be very grateful
that there are people that are willing to raise their hands
to defend this country against all enemies both foreign and domestic and they
Volunteers give me they we
Volunteered our lives for us to live in a free country
So there's a lack of appreciation and then lastly I'll say this if you can carry on and continue a victimhood
Mentality well, then that's how you can continue to get people to vote for you
If the other side is racist if the other side is xenophobic if they can say well the other the other side loves Trump
But we have a real bad case of TDS because he's the worst person that's ever existed
And if you can't convince that that half the country that that's even relatively true
And they'll continue to vote for you, even if it's a lie
So that's where people like me come in to actually tell the truth and to
elucidate people that don't think that people like me even exist.
And I'm here to tell you, there's a lot of me that exists.
There are a lot of people that love this country that are willing to
fight for this country.
And this is why 77 million people voted for president Trump.
What I get to do is be a voice for many when they feel like their voices
and their opinions are suppressed.
I clearly represent a large percent of this country
because that's why President Trump is back in office.
And so once they start seeing people like me,
people then realize, well, you know what?
Maybe this country isn't so bad after all.
Well, you certainly inspire.
I am sort of naturally kind of,
I'm fascinated by the history of this country.
I'm naturally sort of positively biased towards it.
But when I heard you talk, I was like, wow,
that guy can infect people, I think.
I felt myself getting infected.
But let's talk a little bit about the other side
for a second, because you mentioned your grandfather
fighting in the Civil War, your great grandfather.
Yeah, my great great grandfather.
Yeah, the people that want to talk about victimhood,
they seem to go two directions.
They tend to talk about colonialism
and we're horrible, we're horrible,
or they want to talk about slavery,
we're horrible, we're horrible. Or they want to talk about slavery, we're horrible, we're horrible.
We should never have compromised on slavery.
Which rational people would just go, yeah, that's true.
Yeah, yes, it's horrible.
But what troubles me is, I think psychologically,
and so much of the trauma that's transmitted
to the generations today,
really not from the traumas of slavery,
so much as the Reconstruction era after the Civil War,
where Frederick Douglass himself said,
we gave up the lash for the shotgun.
And he was saying we were in better shape,
and that lynching and murder was the order of the day.
They didn't lynch slaves because the owner would kill you.
But I mean, that there weren't any,
there just wasn't, there was horrible violence, horrible.
I mean, when you look at that period,
it's mind boggling what went on after the Civil War.
And we have collectively forgotten about it.
I think it's because it's too traumatic.
We just don't want to look at it.
But are you of that mind as I am that we need to really let's uncover this stuff and let's talk
about what's really our history has been and let's move forward. Let's not be victims today.
You know, that's a great, that's a very great point, sir. And that's even, there was a piece
in the, when the Bill Maher conversation, where he was talking about the renaming of statues and military bases
and and me living in Robert E.
Lee barracks.
And the one thing that Robert that living in those barracks
really taught me was I researched Robert E.
Lee, I researched why he fought for the South.
I researched why the Confederacy actually existed.
And I researched the the the conundrum that he was in and the decision
that he had to make, why he fought for the South and also where we were in that specific
time in history that then allowed us to even name bases after Confederate generals.
And this really happened during World War II because the country right before World
War II was still a mess and we were divided and we're still trying to placate those many people in the
South and that's why we were naming these bases at the Confederate generals. I find that to be
Fascinating if we start changing the names on these buildings
We didn't forget our history and then we don't have these very deep conversations
Because then we start forgetting why we named them things and then we are doing the repeat the ills of our past.
And so I'm a guy where my father taught me who I did 76 years old.
He just turned 76 last week.
He's alive and well doing great.
Loves his grandkids.
My dad grew up in a segregated South in New Orleans.
My dad went to a sec with to segregated schools from kindergarten through college
where he went to an historically black college
and then spent a single day with the white person
from K through college
to graduate from Southern University.
And then you look at that compared to his son, me,
who is a congressman for a white majority district
in a suburb of Houston, Texas.
How do we get here?
My father would always tell me when I was growing up, he goes, son,
you didn't have a difficult.
I did.
So do not let the past you don't carry the past with you.
That was my past. This is America today.
There are no slave owners and there are no slaves.
You need to understand your history, you know where you where you come from.
But right now, do not let the past inhibit your future
and inhibit how you see America,
because again, it's progress,
and your life is not my life.
Go live in the America that you know and you love
and see today that did not exist when I was growing up.
There's something profound to what your dad said there,
like this was my cross to bear.
So you could be in the position you're in today.
And let's think about it.
How if, imagine a time traveler came forward
from Reconstruction Past or something
and saw somebody feeling terrible,
they'd be like, wow, I went through hell
so you could be better.
So you could have the freedoms.
And God knows, and I'm just guessing
that from your perspective as a military officer,
it must be, it's especially, I must tell you,
I was naive about the fight for freedom.
I was really naive about it.
And somehow COVID opened my eyes to it
because our speech was limited and our movement was limited.
And I thought, wow, somebody could just that easily
take away our first amendment rights, doom, gone.
And then it caused me to think about all the people
who had fought and died to preserve those privileges.
And I don't know, it's a weird chapter of history
we all just lived through that certainly for me,
and I think many people, it kind of opened our minds to express gratitude
to people like you for fighting
and protecting these liberties
and for continuing to express enthusiasm for them,
but also for those who have come before you.
So thank you.
That's a brown belt way of saying thank you, number one.
And number two, I'm guessing that the past to you
is something you have fought for and defended.
You can embrace it all, just as long as it,
we keep moving forward today
and the privileges are still here.
If I was coming up during reconstruction
and if I was coming up during the civil rights movement,
if I had lived my life and passed away
and was able to be reincarnated, I would look at someone like me and I would say, this is
exactly why I went through all I went through.
I may not agree with everything politically, or I may not agree with everything that I
say, but the idea that all the people that came before me that afforded me the opportunity
to be a free thinking black man in a country, in this country, to be a Republican, to be a free thinking black man in a country in this country to be a Republican to be a
Trump supporter to think and operate however I want and to know that all walks of life,
all people are voting for me to represent a million people in the summer of Houston,
Texas that I grew up in.
That is the whole point of the struggle.
Frederick Douglass has a quote he says, if there is no struggle, there is no progress.
We have struggled and guys like me me people like me literally are that progress
And so I want to continue to build on that because I recognize that I am standing on the shoulders of giants
And a lot of people in this country again fought and died for me to be here
And I will never forget that and I will forever be appreciative of it
So caleb put pictures of Frederick Douglass up there. He's a former slave that essentially ran away
and educated himself and then educated other black free men,
so-called, and really humbly,
did you read his lecture?
Have you read his speeches?
I mean, really, it's,
we have got to get that up in front of people.
His words are unbelievable.
I mean, we're used to reading Abraham Lincoln and things,
but Frederick Douglass needs to maybe just be
just ahead of that, because he is so prescient
in terms of what he was saying, and he was so courageous.
He just said it, he just said it like it was.
And he actually refined my idea of certain things
just reading his speeches.
He just, it was incredible.
And if you guys really at least read one of his biographies,
anybody out there who've not read them,
there was a recent biography, I forget who wrote it,
but please read it.
It's, it'll open your eyes to a lot.
And it's interesting, the one thing he said was,
he is one of the opening chapters of that biography,
the one I'm thinking of. He said in a speech, he was asked to come speak
at the consecration of, it was sort of a emancipation
statue, it was a statue commemorating
the Emancipation Proclamation.
And he got up and he opened with Abraham Lincoln
was a racist.
And I didn't even say racist, no, he said white supremacist, white supremacist,
not a racist, because he contended he was not a racist.
He was a white supremacist.
And I was like clutching my pearls,
no, not my Abraham Lincoln, no, no, no.
And I kept reading and I thought, oh my God, is he right?
He assumed European white supremacy
and that he was some sort of liberator
and he wanted equality
He did want equality, but he still kind of mmm
The Europeans come out of Europeans kind of have the and and I thought wow that is that we have got to come to terms
With that was right. It was truly truly equal
So and that and again that is somebody that is the nuance that I think we are losing in
a lot of these conversations like like these people are not perfect people they have we
have we have a history about us that imperfect beings have done extraordinarily great things
and maybe for different reasons that may not be the most honorable as we want to hype them
up or build them up to be today but it doesn't mean that their impact on our history for us to get here is profound.
Another another guy is LBJ.
I mean, LBJ was a flaming racist.
I mean, there is no getting around that.
Yeah, I mean, with impunity, while he was the president of the United States of America,
yet he did a lot for civil rights for the movement.
Now, now, now his purposes were very different.
I think his purposes were nefarious, but it doesn't change the fact, or excuse the fact
that it was helpful to black people in moving forward a class of people that were treated
like second class citizens.
Rather, rather, he knew it like it or not, or whatever his reasons were, whether it was
political or political, doesn't matter.
It still helped and i
think having these kinds of nuanced conversations are how we're going to prevent the imperfection
from happening again in the future this is how we prevent bad history from repeating itself
yes oh yes i listen i want to let you go in just a second i want you to get into those house
chambers and vote on that big beautiful bill thank. So I gotta get you in there right away.
But before you do, I saw you in another interview
talking about addressing people who use the Uncle Tom label
for a certain black man.
I think you said yourself,
they came after you once like that.
And go ahead and respond to that.
I thought your response was kind of really interesting.
So please tell, what do you say to people
who give you that one?
Well, it's kind of funny.
My brother and I have a joke.
It's like Uncle Tom, like this cuts kind of deep. How about like,
like a first cousin once removed, Tom? I mean, how can I mean,
can you not be so harsh? Uncle is just so close to the root.
I completely ignore it. I just completely ignore it because again,
I am successful in this country and I am standing on the backs of people like we just talked about
Like WB Du Bois like Frederick Douglas a free-thinking man in the society
That is getting elected by all walks of life again is my ancestors
Wildest dreams you may not agree with me politically you may not like it
But you have to understand one thing and one thing only we have a two-party system
like it, but you have to understand one thing and one thing only.
We have a two party system.
Black people do not all think alike.
And I think if we're going to have good leaders, we need to have good leaders of all races on both sides of this aisle in order for us to actually be effective in
how we legislate.
So when I see black people that say, well, all black people should be Democrats.
I think you're a fool.
And I, and I think, I think that's very myopic in your thinking the fact that we have a black man
That is a prominent Republican in this party and I could take a black experience to add nuance
To my side of the aisle is as important as any black Democrat any black independent or you name it
And so I completely dismiss those tropes and I laugh at them because I think to myself don't worry
I am doing this not just for black people white people
I'm doing this for all Americans because that's quite frankly how I view myself. I'm an American first
Again and hats off to you and and gratitude for your service. Lastly, when's that bill going through? What's your prediction? I tell you what,
we're literally in the middle of this right now.
If I had to make a prediction,
I think we're going to get it done tonight,
but it's going to take some more negotiation.
Well, get in there, go at it, my friend.
Great to meet you.
I hope to meet you in person.
Thank you, sir, Graf.
God bless you, sir.
Thank you.
Really appreciate it.
Looking forward to it.
Thank you, my friend. Really appreciate it. Look forward to it. Thank you my friend.
Get in there.
Representative Wesley Hudd, congressman from Texas.
He does not disappoint.
Okay, let me look at what you guys are talking about
very quickly before I bring in my friend,
Janelle Caldwell.
Big scuttlebutt at the Diddy trial.
Yeah, I heard they're denying bail, right?
Because of the Cassie tapes and the defense conceded
that yes, that was not good.
That was not a good look on him.
What do you mean they conceded that?
What does that mean?
That's what they said.
They said the defense conceded that.
And I said-
But they conceded that during the trial, right?
Right, right.
And then the main reason is that they don't want him
to get out. So he may be looking at some serious time.
I'm gonna make another prediction.
According to Harvey Rehman.
My prediction was pretty good yesterday.
They don't want him to get out
because he's not shown himself to be a responsible adult.
Yeah, it doesn't mean he's gonna go out.
They don't want him to hurt somebody again.
Yeah, he might go and kill somebody. And they don't want to be responsible. Hang on, yeah, they don't be a responsible adult. Yeah, it doesn't mean he's going to go up. They don't want him to hurt somebody again. Yeah, he might go and kill somebody.
And they don't want to be responsible.
Hang on, yeah, they don't be responsible for that.
In terms of whether or not it's going to be a long sentence,
and by the way, we were searching for the word sentencing
about a half hour ago.
Whether or not it's going to be a long sentence,
I don't think this has anything to do with that.
Well, he has to stay in jail until the sentencing.
Right, but then he'll get time served
and all kinds of stuff.
I mean, he should just stay put.
There's no, it's just ridiculous.
And I think denying bail makes perfect sense for me
because if you were the judge,
would you be responsible for this guy
that's known to have beaten the crap out of people?
No, thank you.
So that makes sense to me.
And I believe, now it does suggest that she may be sort of,
is it a female judge or a male judge?
Do we know?
I think it's a male.
Okay.
I mean, I'm assuming.
He may be, well, I don't make assumptions.
There are a lot of female judges.
That's true.
I can't remember.
But he may or she may be, do you know, Caleb,
is it a male or female judge?
Looking it up.
I feel like it was a female judge.
But he may be biased a little bit because of that violence.
And so he may be inclined to give a,
I'm going to say an intermediate zone kind of punishment.
It's going to be a little more than I'm sure
did he would like, but not as much as maybe advocates
for domestic violence would wish he would get.
I like Jude's predictions.
He was totally on yesterday.
I was pretty good yesterday. I was totally on yesterday that he wasn't going.
I was pretty good yesterday.
I was pretty good yesterday.
But if it is a reduced sentence
because he just lost three of the five.
No, it's not a reduced sentence.
He's going to get it.
He's going to get it.
He did something.
You can't deny what he did.
He went across state lines with a prostitute.
That's what he did.
Well, yeah.
And they proved that.
And so there you go.
We can tell he's violent.
So, and they concede ited he's not a good person.
And if you've watched that video yet, man,
it is, it will, it's impressive.
Dexter Luralab says, poor Diddy.
I hope you're being kind of facetious there.
Yes, Dexter's always facetious.
Yeah.
All right. Well, I mean, the women on,
I was on X and the women are going nuts and like,
you know, I feel bad for Cassie and Jane.
And, you know, women are treated like they're-
But again, they, was it Cassie that is married
with children as $30 million because of,
the other one was, I mean, they were-
It has to be beyond a reasonable doubt.
So like 50% of the people might have thought it.
I am not saying any of this was good.
What I'm saying, it was a bunch of sick people
behaving very sick.
And I, and because of that, I actually hate it
when they throw the book at six people
without giving them a chance to get better.
So I think Diddy should be treated,
whether or not he's willing to do that
is a whole other matter.
Yeah, that would help maybe.
Okay, let's see if you guys are sitting here
on the mumble rant.
What would have helped him in his case too,
like if he had presented that and said,
oh, I'm going to go to rehab, I'm going to do this,
but I haven't heard any of those promises.
Like it doesn't even, I don't know,
maybe that's part of his defense.
I agree, Caleb, but a lot of these cases,
they assiduously avoid talking about mental health
or addiction.
They just leave it out of the conversation.
That doesn't mean it's not in there.
And I will bet you that in prison,
he will be urged to take care of some business
because he's got time to do it.
He's got till October to get his sentencing.
So they're going to keep him in jail.
It says October 3rd is sentencing day.
Oh, they're not doing it today?
No, that's what I, well, I'm watching the TMZ live
cause yesterday we scooped their story.
Jeremiah, yes.
Do I think Diddy is a sex addict?
Absolutely.
Yes, he's a sex addict.
100%.
But I suspect it's not just sex-edition.
That's a random person on his feed.
I don't know if that's for sure, but if it is October then.
Suspect it's not just,
maybe that's when he has to show up for prison or something.
No, he's staying in prison with no bail until sentencing.
Until sentencing.
Yeah, so they have to.
Emily's going to tell us what that is.
Emily will be here in about a half hour. She'll tell us about it. We hope. I think so. I'm so they have to. Emily's gonna tell us what that is. Emily will be here in about a half hour.
She'll tell us about it.
We hope.
I think so.
I'm assuming they're done.
They're like already.
Let me finish my thought on Diddy on the sex addiction.
Definitely sex addiction,
but my suspicion is other chemical addictions
and sex addiction, which is primary,
very difficult to sort out at this stage of the game.
All right, we'll be here with Gianno Caldwell
in just a minute.
Let me get just some particulars on my friend Gianno
at Gianno Caldwell, G-I-A-N-N-O Caldwell.
And the Caldwellinstitute.org is where you can read
about his projects.
And there's the book, The Day My Brother Was Murdered.
My brother was murdered in Chicago mercilessly.
And he's made it his business to try to tackle
some of these needless, ridiculous crimes,
particularly in places like Chicago.
His book is worth buying and reading
and it supports the Institute,
the Colba Institute as well.
But he'll tell you about that and the book after this.
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Next up, as I said, my friend, Giano Caldwell.
The book is, The Day My Brother Was Murdered,
My Journey Through America's Violent Crime Crisis.
There's the book.
You can get it at the usual places.
Please welcome Giano Caldwell.
Giano, thank you for being here. Great to be with you, my friend. So, tell them
briefly the story and why they should buy the book. On June
twenty-four, twenty-two, my life changed forever when my
innocent teenage baby brother Christian was murdered on the
south side of Chicago. It was not the target but it happened
just like many families
across the nation. Since then, I've been out for justice for families just like mine. That's
when I created the Caldwell Institute for Public Safety. And with the Caldwell Institute
for Public Safety, we provide resources for families who may have experienced those tragedies.
And we also work with elected officials like some that are on our advisory board. Dr. Drew, thank you for being on there, along with Congressman Burgess-Owens, Bambandi,
our attorney general, who joined us when we started.
The book itself, The Day My Brother Was Murdered, My Journey Through America's Violent Crime
Crisis, I went to that day, June 24, 2022, and I realized that there was 150 people murdered
across the country on that day.
People like James from Philadelphia, who was an Army veteran, who had PTSD and would often
go to the park at 1 and 2 a.m.
On June 24th, he did exactly what he did on a weekly basis.
But that day, there were children there, 11, 12, teenage age, in that park.
And he said, what are you all doing here?
You shouldn't be out here this late.
You should go home.
They beat him to death with a traffic cone.
Or Catherine from Texas, who was a wife, a mother,
a grandmother, 64 years old, chemical engineer
going home in Burleson, Texas on the highway
when a shootout took place on that same highway
because a drug deal went bad.
There's many stories in his book
that are absolutely tragic,
but I wanted to figure out how can we fix it.
So I talked to people like you, Dr. Drew.
I talked to people like John Walsh
from America's Most Wanted.
I talked to people like Dr. Bill Winston,
who's a major fake pastor, educator,
because this violent crime crisis needs to stop,
but it's gonna take community to do it.
So what is wrong with us?
So before we can, as usual, prescribe a treatment,
you have to kind of have a diagnosis.
What's up?
Why are we so violent?
What's happened to us?
Well, there's many reasons why.
I can think of assault on crime policies. I can think of soft on crime
policies. I can think of not enforcing the law fairly across the board. And many prosecutors
in the country have been a part of that. What has been a noble effort for criminal justice reform
has become justice for the criminal. And it's quite unfortunate. So we have that, we have fatherless homes
and as you know, if you are raised in a fatherless home,
you're 20 times more likely to get involved in crime.
We have a faith issue.
One of the people experts I spoke to said
if a young child has faith, no matter what that is,
in the core of who they are,
they're less likely to get involved in crime.
And there's many, many other issues that I think have been
and allow for this to happen.
We just need to change it, we need to solve it.
And that's what this book,
The Day My Brother Was Murdered is all about.
Well, you know, John, you put your finger on two,
I'm sure there are lots of other things
that are involved as well,
but you put them to your finger on two
that I believe are perhaps the biggest,
maybe orders of magnitude more important than anything else,
which is A, fatherless homes,
which consistently comes out as a risk factor
for real trouble.
And two, you mentioned lack of faith.
And I think that's absolutely true,
that it used to be that faith practices of various types
contain some of this.
And we've completely trashed
and we sort of let go of all that.
Even people who go to church
really aren't having much faith.
They've lost it somehow.
I don't hear people talking about this.
So when you talk about it,
are people receptive or do they go up, up, up?
I don't, no, no, no, no.
We can't talk about it, are people receptive or do they go up up up? I don't know. No, no, no
We can't talk about that
Well, part of the reason for the book the day my brother was murdered is because I wanted to have
Have people have empathy for it want to be interested in solving the issue
So James in the book is an older gentleman in his 60s. He's African-american
Catherine she's white.
I have a whole host of folks of all different races
that are actually mentioned in this book,
because I tackle the issue among nine families,
including my own, because I thought it was so necessary
to make sure that people can see themselves
and their families in this book.
Because oftentimes we say,
oh, that's just the issue for this book, because oftentimes we say,
oh, that's just the issue for the blacks,
because black-on-black crime is a thing.
And that's where a lot of the crime is committed.
The perpetrator is black, the victim is black in many cases.
So that is a consideration.
But in this book, you can see young, old,
of all different races, all different backgrounds,
all regions of the country,
because it is necessary for us to understand this issue,
not just saying, oh man, I feel sorry for them.
That's their problem,
but this is something that can happen to any one of us.
I never expected that my brother would be murdered.
I'm a national TV, political analyst, host, et cetera.
And we've known each other for many years,
but I never thought this would be a part of my story and my journey.
But since it now is, how can I fix it
is what I'm interested in,
and what can I do to ensure
that this doesn't happen to another family
is my full-on focus.
Just like you told me when we talked about the book,
before you said, when I asked,
how can I get beyond the pain of this situation,
you said you cannot.
What you can do is do something that furthers the legacy
of the person that you lost.
And that's exactly what this book is all about.
Yeah, making a difference,
make some sort of meaning out of this,
which you have been very diligent in doing.
You know, one of the things that kind of I think
about your journey is the mayhem in Chicago is part of what it wasn't here. Your brother in Chicago.
Yeah, South by the Chicago.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the mayhem there in a way, it's just so crazy. And particularly at that time, it was really bad. I want to put blame on somebody for that.
Should I?
I mean, there's a number of people that we can blame.
We can blame politicians for the ideology
of soft on crime policies.
Again, I think it enables criminals to commit more crimes.
Although people like Gavin Newsom in your state
have said is an example for proposition 47,
which decreased the penalty of law on
certain crimes in 2014, and the voters in 2024 wanted to change that.
And Gavin Newsom said, you know what, we can't do that because it's going to hurt the black
population.
Which, in fact, if you don't do it, it's going to hurt the black population even more, because
these are more so the victims of these violent crime action.
So there is people to blame.
We can blame the politician.
We can blame the school system for passing kids along who shouldn't be passed along.
I know there's certain people that say the tests are racist now that that isn't the case
in my view.
We need to educate.
We need to hold people accountable.
And there needs to be personal responsibility
Men in the home have to be held responsible for some of the action that their kids are doing
What you're describing is something I call toxic empathy, right? Oh, we care so much. We care so much
He cares so much. You're you're literally killing people not just people like jano's brother
Go on the streets here in los angeles. Those people are dropping dead six, seven, eight a day because of your shitty policies here in Los Angeles.
That is that empathic for God sakes.
No, it isn't.
And the weird thing about him making that statement is he knows that crime has been
a problem in California, especially in Los Angeles.
And it doesn't seem as though he's been interested
in doing much about it.
The Carbone Institute for Public Safety
supported Nathan Hockman for the district attorney
in Los Angeles.
We did ad-bys, we did a number of different things
for Nathan Hockman.
That's the one who actually enforces the law fairly.
He believes in it.
And you can have people that have experienced traumatic situations. I grew up with a mom who was addicted to crack cocaine. I grew
up in extreme poverty, lights, gas, and wore off at the same time. In some cases, we didn't
have lights, gas, and water because we had to get a generator to try to plug it up to
the house to run the house. These are things that happen in places like the third world countries.
It shouldn't be here, but that doesn't mean
because I experienced that, that I have the right
to go out and commit crimes.
That's not what that mean at all.
And that's what some people have alluded to
because you went through very terrible set of circumstances
that you have the right to do things and harm others.
That is not appropriate.
It is not okay.
Yeah, that's interesting.
And so let's talk about the Caldwell Institute
and who is there and your cousin,
she's an extraordinary resource and what she taught you.
And talk to us about that a little bit.
My cousin, Ola Wartolian-Hines,
which you're referring to, Dr. Hines,
she's extraordinary.
She's with the Caldwell Foundation for Public Safety.
She's been helping us with that programming for schools.
And you can visit the Caldwell Foundation
at caldwellsafety.org.
And then the Institute is really all about
supporting families and the politics of it all
and the policy of it all.
And I'm so thankful for you for contributing
to our manual on mental health.
Because when people go through these experiences
of violent crime, they don't know what to do.
I didn't know what to do.
I was blessed that I had your phone number
and I could pick up the phone and call you
and work through what I was dealing with at any given time.
But most people don't have that kind of access.
So we provided access to a manual
at the CarwellInstitute.org.
I encourage people to visit there
and find those resources.
And Gianno introduced me to his cousin, Dr. Hyens.
And I said, that woman knows what this is.
You listen to her.
She knows how to help people recover
from this kind of shocking loss.
And I just thought she was such an impressive person.
So she's a wonderful resource for your if your institution
your foundation
Yeah, I mean she just like you know that the fact that she
was willing to
Lend her expertise to what you're doing
I is there a particular so people if they're, is there a particular place that her ideas are represented
on the website?
Yes, there's resource tabs at the top.
And again, it's Caldwellinstitute.org.
Beyond the mental health tabs there,
we have manuals on how to work with the police
and prosecutors written by police and prosecutors.
Additionally, if a person is interested in
getting press attention for their family to try to solve a crime, I read the manual on
just how to do exactly that. Because I had the unfortunate experience of living through
it. And I couldn't believe how difficult it was to work through these processes, whether
it be working with police and prosecutors,
how to really put yourself in a better position mentally, which was very difficult for me. But
in my mind, I got to do something about this. I got to get justice for my family. My brother
was innocent. He wasn't the target of this shooting. He's collateral damage like so many
other people across the country whose lives have been taken
rather stolen from their families because of the violent crime that exists in our nation today.
And I remember the frustration you were going through and has there been any progress in solving
his murder? So there's an individual that the police found some months later who was in a mall outside
of Chicago in the suburbs doing something he shouldn't have been doing and they ended
up wrestling him down, arresting him.
He had the murder weapon on him.
Oh, wow.
The thing is, we don't know if the guy bought the gun, if he traded the gun, if he found
the gun, if he traded the gun, if he found the gun, what that is. And the federal government has gotten involved via the FBI
because the guy was wanted on many more crimes.
And mind you, on that day, June 24th, at 117 South Bessing Street in Chicago,
there were three or four black men with dregs.
They got out of a black SUV and shot multiple people, not just my brother.
He was just the only one that didn't make it.
So there's been something that has transpired,
but the Federal Bureau of Investigation
has the case, they're prosecuting the case through the DOJ,
and this guy may actually end up getting life.
Then the Chicago police can question him,
but as you know, if you're gonna get life for a federal crime, I'm not sure how much you're going to be willing
to tell you're already doing life. So I don't know how that's
going to go about. But there's other individuals involved. I
have a reward up there. And I hope people will if they know
any information about what happened on that day that they
will reach out and help us solve this.
What do you how do you respond to people who want to blame all this on guns?
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Chicago's the most comprehensive gun control laws
on the books for many, many years,
and that have not stopped the historic violence rate,
murders, homicides, et cetera.
The gun has been used.
Criminals don't obey guns,
so I don't understand why they would make things
even more
soft on crime is for me is egregious as asinine to believe that
That they should just go soft. No, they don't obey the law. That's fine We're just gonna arrest them and create a deterrence because if you look at the clearance rate
Nationally is around 50% in And Chicago mirrors it very similarly.
But in the black community, that number goes down
at 30 something percent because folks don't believe
in talking to the police, working with the police.
There's a no snitch culture there,
which in my humble opinion, endanger the lives
of everyone in that community.
You have to work with the police, you have to deal with it.
How do you get the bad guys out? And that's a problem that I think, which requires folks to go to this book, because I
talk about that no snitch culture and why it's necessary to eradicate it. We need to be principled
about this, because lives are literally on the line. We had a five-month-old baby that was murdered on June 24th, 2022.
Baby Cecilia, her brother in the car with her,
in the backseat, three years old, mom and dad up front.
They thought they heard fireworks.
And then come to find out she was dead.
Like, what society would allow something like that
to happen?
This is an infant.
So I'm outraged, I'm disappointed,
I'm upset about what I've seen.
That's why I'm doing something about it.
So Giano, just to wrap up, other than buying the book,
what is the call to action for people?
Go to the website and do what?
Support our efforts, donate,
get involved with what we're doing.
Buy the book, book is a roadmap.
And I'm so thankful for your commentary on it
because I believe it was so helpful
because I've been talking to you about the drugs
that a lot of young people have been using
in these communities.
I don't know what the technical name for it,
but people call it lane, they call it in rap songs.
Oh, I'm on this lane and it really,
I think numbs these folks out
because there's no value for life anymore.
And it's extreme levels of that.
So we got to change the trajectory.
That's what I'm here to do, Dr. Jim.
So go to the Caldwellinstitute.org and donate.
Also, we have people-
I know, I know, I'm going to get there.
Okay, go. I'm going to get there. Okay, go.
I'm not telling you to go away,
but somebody on YouTube was saying,
two great men, Gianno, I'm so sorry for your loss.
And our followers, our hearts and prayers
are going out to you and your family.
Yeah, people are responding to you
on the chat rooms and things.
I guess somebody's asking,
how do you change the no-stitch culture?
By telling, by encouraging other people to do it.
We gotta get involved in these neighborhoods.
And you know, I tell people all the time,
like you go into the South side,
people are afraid to go into these communities.
They're afraid to go to the schools
and talk to the children there.
We gotta get them where they're young.
And that's why it's so important.
And I tell people all the time, I don't have any children at this point.
And I hope that God blesses me with children.
But it is my responsibility to go out there and mentor.
There's a lot of fatherless children out there who need mentors, who need that valuable guidance.
And it was helpful for me when I was growing up.
So those are considerations I think people need to make as they think about how they
can help.
There's many ways you can get involved, many ways you can help, and you can contribute
to the life of a young person who may pick up a gun or who may not pick up a gun because
of your mentorship, your words of advice, your love, your consideration,
your guidance and support.
John, I'm so sorry you went through all this,
but I am so proud of you being in the fight
and whatever we can do to support you, we're here.
Thank you so much.
I appreciate you having me.
If you can stick around, we'd love your input
on the next topic.
If you're-
Yes, he has a part out, so we're gonna-
Oh, okay.
So, Gianno, I will see you soon, my friend.
Call me anytime and let's get to it.
Let's keep this thing going.
Let's do it, absolutely.
Thank you so much, talk soon.
Thank you.
Thank you.
You bet.
All right, next up is a report
crouched before the golden door, I hope,
so we can get that scene again going.
Emily knows everything.
Emily with an IE is at the courtroom
or was in the courtroom regarding the-
She's running out of battery, so let's get to-
Okay, Emily, there you are.
I'm on True for Side.
So give us your thoughts.
You're not crouched in front of the golden door, I'm sorry.
It's not raining today, Drew.
So I just got out.
The government surprisingly just went
pretty easy on Diddy for his proposed sentencing. We're looking at 51 to 61 months, 61 months
maximum. Keep in mind, he's already served 10 months. The defense is proposing 21 to
27 months and he was denied bail. So I said everyone can go and wash their baby oil off
because Diddy's not coming out of those doors today. I'm gonna hit on you and invite you to his
next white party. It's not happening. Diddy was staring at Mark Agnifilo just
like this.
I was looking back and forth. The kids are smiling. The kids are happy. The
family is happy. Their dad's gonna eventually be home. So today was a wild
journey because people literally thought because that
they moved the barricades that he was coming home, but they actually did it
because it got so rowdy because we brought 25 dozen bottles of baby oil and
the influencers went wild and started dousing themselves in the baby oil.
And Marshall's actually, it's on the citizen app.
11 million people were notified that there was a baby oil party outside the and Marshall's actually, it's on the Citizen app.
11 million people were notified that there was a baby oil party outside the courthouse.
That was a dangerous society.
So that was the most exciting moment of the day
was watching people drench themselves in baby oil.
And yeah, I'm very surprised
that he's only getting 61 months tops.
People thought that-
Emily, I always knew you were a danger to society,
but I didn't know it'd be that official
that the Citizen app would deem you such.
But did I not go on the record, Susan,
when the started today, I was pretty right about the-
You really were, Drew.
Yeah.
But then I was right too at the beginning of the show today. Beginning of the show today I said, I think he's going to get off pretty easy and a lot
of it's going to be time served.
I thought maybe five years.
I think that's sort of the zone.
Yeah, about five to ten, five to six, 51 to 61 months max.
He already served 10 months.
Sentencing is scheduled for October 3rd.
Agnifilo was saying, we've got to expedite it.
And Diddy's just like, everyone's happy in the Tombs family today.
Justin just gave a woman in the line a big hug.
Those kids are happy that their dad is coming home.
And I'm a little bit upset that I am the face of the Frico
because I was holding up a t-shirt earlier showing that
Diddy's family was handing out these shirts.
Char Luchi, Luchi Brad New York City, was handing out shirts to the influencers that said,
a Frico is not a Rico.
I held it up and they captured a photo of me
and now I'm on the front page of New York Post
and I look like white trash and I'm pissed.
So I gotta go do my hair and like,
I'm not happy with it, but we knew what we were doing.
We knew it was, I knew that was gonna create a viral moment.
I knew what I was doing. Embrace was, I knew that was gonna create a viral moment. I knew what I was doing.
Embrace it, embrace it, embrace your heritage.
So I'll see you guys October 3rd,
but Drew, you really called it.
I'm happy that I posted that clip of you last night,
because now you look like the Oracle,
like the lady yesterday that predicted the weather.
That's right, that's right.
But listen, I don't understand why they're delaying the sentencing till October.
What is that?
There is your picture.
What is that all about?
Well, Agnifilo is asking for them to expedite it.
So I'm sure it's going to be expedited.
Why would they wait three months?
I understand that.
I don't know.
They said something about the court, like the judge has to decide.
But they basically said the
reason they denied him bail is because he had domestic violence even when the feds were
investigating him he there is something that went on the court that in june 2024 him and jane joe
so they like he has not shown that he was humble enough to care about the law so they're trying to
humble him by denying him the bail. Well not only only that, Emily, but what I said was,
imagine you're the judge, you know, this guy is a violent tendency.
You have the responsibility to hold him and you let him go out there
and he acts out on somebody that would be on you.
You feel like that's on you, the judge.
Sorry to interrupt.
I've been saying since day one, this is the most fair.
This judge is so fair.
This guy has not showed bias to either side. Sorry to interrupt. I've been saying since day one, this is the most fair. This judge is so fair.
This guy has not showed bias to either side.
And I feel like he's a very, a very good judge,
better than Judge Judy.
Sorry.
I liked him since the first day.
But again, he feels...
When he wore the sneakers.
When he wore the sneakers, I was like, he's cool.
But I also think he feels a moral responsibility.
100%.
If he lets somebody loose,
yes, he lets somebody loose.
He's going to give him,
it might make him a little biased.
That's why I said five years and not three years
because it makes him think, oh, this guy's violent.
I got to keep him kind of as long as I can.
I certainly can't let him loose in the meantime.
And he gets all that time served.
I'm sure he'll get that.
What's the judge's name?
Judge Subbermanian.
It's a hard work.
It's the Ed.
Ruined Subbermanian.
There's the baby oil you guys.
And I will say-
You're Armenian?
I've been just saying the judge this whole time
because I'm not great at pronunciations.
Okay.
So it is finally over. I'll see you guys in LA.ations. Okay. So, it's finally over.
I'll see you guys in LA.
Bye.
Yes.
All right, join us here.
Good.
Enjoy your rest.
Were you there at 4.30 in the morning?
Were you there at 4.30 today?
No, I wasn't.
I got there at six.
Okay.
Keep being rational, Drew.
Okay, you got it.
In the, we have, by the way,
we have umbrellas in our closet.
So you're in, you're not in Los Angeles.
It rains in other places.
I know.
She popped by last night.
I don't think, she slept on our couch
and she just, she didn't even,
she had to run out and buy something to wear
because she just spent the night.
She had her strawberry something shirt on today.
Yeah, it was too identifiable two days in a row.
And she didn't have an umbrella, it was raining.
It's been raining in New York.
It's interesting because during the live stream,
Harvey Livins, TMZ went on live
and they were saying how they kept him in
because he was a dangerous person.
And they didn't know how long,
but they were like, well, he's, you know,
he's a dangerous society and blah, blah, blah, which could very well be true, you know, because
he, he probably has some people that he's going to probably.
You just heard that even when the FBI was investigating him, he acted out violently
on Jane Doe, even when he was under investigation.
So you're the judge,
you're responsible to protecting people.
You're not going to let this guy out.
Right.
But it does.
Maybe being sober for five years will be good for him.
Maybe he'll find a higher power.
He could do recovery work, right.
He could do real recovery work.
If that's true, then I wish him the best.
If it's not.
I mean, maybe he can get out sooner if they say,
well, if you go into recovery
and you do a rehab, you know,
and maybe work on your-
And you can afford it.
I mean, I think they do that in jail,
but maybe he can get off sooner
if he does something like that.
Let's put it this way.
I'll make another prediction.
If he does not do that,
we will see him again in another courtroom one day soon.
Right. Remember when OJ got off and then he came out and he started selling drugs and then he went
back to jail. Well, no, he was selling ecstasy. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
He had some paraphernalia of his that he claims was stolen and he got a group of guys together
and broke into the people's room
that were trying to sell the paraphernalia,
like footballs and stuff, and violently attacked them
and then kidnapped them, held them against their will.
He was also selling drugs.
I don't know that that had anything to do with it.
I remember, I followed that case so closely
and I was so astounded that he got off.
But eventually he ended up back in jail eventually.
Oh, that case, the original case, yeah.
Oh yeah, that would upset you as a woman.
You were upset and I'm sure a lot of women
are upset about this one too for similar reasons.
I'm upset as a woman.
I think that it's terrible,
but I also understand
that some of these things could be,
I mean, if the jury thought, weren't completely convinced
he doesn't have to go to jail for that,
that's how the law works.
So.
That's how it works, that's exactly right.
But he's going to go for a while and we'll see.
So, and by the way, I'll say it again,
I don't like it when people with addiction in particular,
mental illness go away for long periods of time.
I want them to have consequences.
So they have to make amends and they have to be accountable.
But I want to give them a chance to get into recovery
and get better, but we'll see if he actually does that.
Of course it would.
Okay, so.
He obviously is a drug and a sex addict.
Well, I'm suspicious.
And drug addicts and sex addicts do bad things.
And then when they're sober, they don't do bad things.
That is correct.
And they realize they were bad and they do better.
Yep, that's true.
And they become better people and maybe he can do that.
That is true.
And I've seen it a million times.
And that's what gives me faith that there can be miracles for lots of people,
including him.
And that includes everybody around him
who is a sex addict or drug addict too.
They can take control of their lives
and not be that way either.
So it's not just him.
Like we were talking last night
about how the people around him weren't getting in trouble,
only he was.
I mean, Emily was really upset about that. Like, why aren't the people who him weren't getting in trouble.
Only he was.
It's sort of like Michael Jackson being given drugs.
The people around them support them
and they end up dead from drug addiction or whatever so it's the same
thing but but yeah he needs he needs some time and he'll hopefully get better and prove himself
okay let's put up the upcoming guest here uh we have uh i think a j sixer in here tomorrow we also
have uh great gary s Sinise in as well.
Alison Morrow, we had, because of the Ditty thing, we rescheduled her for the 10th.
Jenny McCarthy is still on for the 17th.
We will be from New York next week.
Those are our guests coming up.
What's that?
We think.
Hopefully she'll come.
I'm excited.
Oh, Jenny.
Jenny will come eventually, for sure.
And I'm looking for the chance to apologize to her.
And as time goes on,
the apology is getting more elaborate in my head.
So we'll see how that goes.
And we appreciate you all being here.
I'm looking at the rants and the restream.
A lot of Susan action here, Susan, for you.
A lot of Susan love. We Susan, for you, a lot of Susan love.
We appreciate you all that, woo!
May also be right.
I'm not sure what I'm right about,
but I appreciate it, whatever it is.
Okay.
All right, everybody, we will-
Somebody just put a big-
I know, I see, I asked too much.
It's somebody who's saying that you're a hypocrite
and about the mom, Donnienie and blah, blah, blah.
So it's on Facebook.
Why did I?
I haven't said anything about him really.
So how could I be a hypocrite?
I know I asked him why and that's that was the reason.
So that big long paragraph is is.
Oh, it doesn't even.
Okay.
I didn't even I couldn't find what you were talking about.
That doesn't even look like a real one.
I think this is like a copy paste thing.
They just paint, that's not too true.
Yeah, and you know what?
It says that it seems to imply that I'm pro-Mamdani,
that I'm supporting of him.
No, you're not.
This says, this says,
Mr. Mamdani has repeatedly embraced the rhetoric of hate.
This is... He said, I'm not sure your life experience has to do with Mr. Mumdani has repeatedly embraced the rhetoric of hate.
He said, I'm not sure your life experience
has to do with Mumdani rally for free speech
and then destroy people for their speech.
But the people of New York have spoken.
Listening to you, Mumdani should be jailed and deported.
I don't remember him saying anything about that.
And I wasn't, but thank you.
I would never say that.
I would never say that. I would never say that.
Yeah, so thank you for submitting your thoughts
and this is a free speech channel.
Oh, I support his freedom
to put his opinion out there as well.
All right, so we got to take a break.
We got to take a little 24 hour break here,
a 23 hour break.
We'll be back in here tomorrow
at two o'clock Pacific
time. We will see you then. Ta ta.
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