Ask Dr. Drew - The Lie of Decreasing Crime: Ex DOJ Advisor Exposes FBI “Doctoring Crime Stats” To Hide Huge Increase In Violence w/ John Lott Ph.D., Andy Ross & Drew Thomas Allen – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 628

Episode Date: May 28, 2026

Many elected officials insist that crime is falling in their districts – but ex-DOJ advisor John Lott Ph.D. says those claims are based on little lies and constructed with statistics that are carefully manufactured to show results favored by politicians – a “paper mirage.” While the FBI boasts of a 10% decrease in violence, the DOJ’s own National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) recorded a record-shattering 44% increase in violent crime, which remains at historically elevated rates. • EPISODE SPONSORED BY ONESKIN – Get 15% off OneSkin with the code DREW at https://www.oneskin.co/DREW John Lott reveals the pitfalls of relying on crimes reported to the police—the majority of all crimes, including 70% of property crimes are never reported to law enforcement. Author and political analyst Drew Thomas Allen discusses the Trump-Russia collusion delusion & the Benghazi cover-up. Andy Ross discusses the cultural battle for the Second Amendment and the vital role of an armed citizenry in preserving American liberty. John Lott PhD is an economist and world-recognized expert on guns and crime. He is the former president of the Crime Prevention Research Center, a nonprofit he founded in 2013. He served as a Senior Advisor at the U.S. Department of Justice and holds a PhD in economics from UCLA. He is the author of more than 10 books and 100+ refereed articles. Follow at https://x.com/JohnRLottJr Andy Ross is an accomplished singer-songwriter, TV host, and CEO. He is the founder of Digital Ally, Inc. (2004) and founder of American Rebel, a publicly traded patriotic brand. He hosted his own television shows, Maximum Archery and American Rebel, for twelve years. Follow at https://x.com/AndyRossRebel and https://andyross.com/ Drew Thomas Allen is a Daily Signal columnist and author of “Clinton Hoax, Obama Coup: The Declassified Story of the Trump–Russia Delusion.” He hosts The Drew Allen Show and serves as West Coast VP at Publius PR. He is a widely published political analyst and has run PR campaigns for Charlie Kirk, Peter Navarro, Dr. Ben Carson, and others. Follow at https://x.com/DrewThomasAllen 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 • ONESKIN - Get 15% off OneSkin with the code DREW at https://www.oneskin.co/DREW #OneSkinPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/fatty15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/paleovalley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twc.health/drew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Executive Producers • Kaleb Nation - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • Susan Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/firstladyoflove⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Content Producer • Emily Barsh - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/emilytvproducer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Hosted By • Dr. Drew Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/drdrew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All right, we've got a lot of show to get in today. We're going to start. For myself, I summarized the show as guns, freedom, and hoaxes, oh my. We're going to talk about crime hoaxes. We're going to talk about hoaxes that led to the attempt to overthrow government. But first, we're going to talk to John Lott. John is a PhD and economist and expert in guns and crime. Former president of the Crime Prevention Prevention Research Center, a nonprofit founded in

2013. Served a senior advisor to the U.S. partner of justice, holds a PhD and economics from UCLA, and author of more than 10 books and 100 articles. You can follow Dr. Lott at John R. Lott, Lott, Jr., John R. Lott, Jr., one word. Also, crime research, one on X and crimeresearch.org. So we're going to talk about why we all, particularly here in Southern California, are fearing for our lives half the day, worrying about, as the Spencer Pratt, the mayoral candidate sort of framed it, fear of being stabbed in the neck, or fear of somebody with a machete or fear of somebody cold cocking us from behind. New York City, same thing. fear of being just unnecessarily or sort of suddenly assaulted for no reason.

Why do we feel that crime is so prevalent when the politicians keep insisting the crime is at an all-time low? Somewhere there's a mismatch, and John Lott is going to explain that to us. We're also going to talk to Drew Thomas Allen. He's a columnist, political analyst, Daily Signal columnist, the Clinton hoax, Obama coup, a declassified story of the Trump-Russia delusion. We're going to talk about, that's my hoax piece. Well, I guess the crime part is a hoax also. And then between John and Drew, we'll talk to Andy Ross.

We're going to talk. He is founder of Digital Ally Inc., founder of American Rebel. And he is an accomplished singer-songwriter and has a gun enthusiast and has some thoughts about that. So, guns, freedom. Freedom isn't quite the right word. what shall we say freedom defend the bill of rights and hoaxes oh my right after this we'll talk to john lot our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre the psychopaths start this he was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography PTSD love addiction fentanyl and heroin

ridiculous I'm a doctor for I say where the hell you think I learned that I'm just saying you go to treatment before you kill people I am a clinician I observe things about these chemicals but just deal it looks real. We used to get these calls on Lovelin all the time. Educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat. You have trouble. You can't stop and you want to help stop it. I can help. I got a lot to say. I got a lot more to say. Before I bring John Lott in, I want to congratulate Adam Carolla who got his star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame today. Caleb, I know I'm bum rushing you with this. I don't know if you have any stills or video of that event.

It was really kind of something. And Jimmy Kimmel and I spoke on Adam's behalf. of us were there at the, shall we say, the origin, part of his origin theory, origin story, Genesis of where he came from and how he got going and both Jimmy and I played a role in that. And it was actually very funny and very entertaining. Either do you have anything like that? Yeah, I'm pulling it up. I'm finding it. I'm getting it right now.

Susan, you were there. And Susan was taking pictures and watching the whole of you. I sent you a video. There it is. This is the actual, we'd spoken up at the podium behind us before. I'm not to get the audio though. This for this? I don't remember there being much to it.

It started up. That is the actual star unveiling. Jimmy and I and Joel McHale and a couple of his longtime friends were there to see this happen. It's wild. I mean, Jimmy and Adam, I have been around each other for 30 plus years. At the beginning he goes, am I being knighted?

I know, that was very funny. That was very funny. Yeah, play it. It's so funny. Well, it's okay. All right. We can maybe do it towards the end of the show. So keep the stuff handy.

Do you want the speeches? Is that what you're wanting? No, I just sent at the very beginning when he was on his knees, he goes, am I being knighted? Yes. I think you've, you now have brought the joke. We don't actually have to hear him saying. All right. Okay, Adam.

Fair enough. John Lott is an economist, and we're going to talk a little bit about FBI crime data. John, thank you. Welcome to the program. It's awesome to be on. Thanks very much for having me on. So I think you probably heard what I said about how we all feel about crime versus what we're being told about crime, which I'm used to this. Well, first of all, I believe nothing anymore.

I've been fully blackpilled as it pertains to data and press and, you know, what politicians say. And even even legitimate, you know, sources I rely on. I check and double check and have to go downstream because you can't rely on anything today. But certainly, you know, was it Groucho Marx said, what are you going to believe? Me or your lion eyes? Right. And our lion eyes are telling us something. Right.

Well, I mean, for years, for the last several years, we've seen news headline after news headlines saying that people mistakenly think that crime's going up when it's actually going down. And what people need to understand is that there are two measures that we have of crime. There are crimes report to police. That's the FBI numbers. most people rely on and what the media relies on. And then there's something from the Bureau of Justice Statistics from the National Crime Victimization Survey, which tries to get a handle on total crimes. We know that only about 40% of violent crimes are reported to police, only about 30% of property

crimes are reported to police. Prior to 2020, these two measures of crime tended to go up and down together. But since then, they've really been going in really opposite directions. So during the Biden administration, while the FBI data on reported crime showed about an 8% drop in violent crime, the measure of total crime showed a 59% increase, the largest percentage increase by far over any four-year period of time that we've seen since these numbers started being collected. And there are a couple reasons for that. One is we've known for a long time that whether or not people report crimes to the police depends in part on whether or not people

think the criminals are going to be caught and punished. And you mentioned Los Angeles in New York. If you look at the cities over a million in population in the United States during 2022, the arrest rates for reported violent crime was down to 20 percent. The arrest rate for total violent crime was down to 8%. So those are not much risk of them getting caught. The other thing is, as we've seen a big drop in the number of police, you know, seven years ago or whatever, if you'd called up 911, they'd send out a police car and they'd take a police report.

Now, in many parts of the country, they'll ask you as the criminal stole there committing the crime. And if you say no, they say, well, you can come down to the police station and you can wait in line and fill out a police report. And there are going to be some people who are going to say, you know, it's just not worth it. You know, before they would have had a police report filled out. Now they say it's just too much of a hassle, particularly given the returns that are there. But look, the bottom line is pretty simple.

If you want to reduce crime, you have to make it riskier for criminals to go and commit crime. You have to have higher arrest rates, higher conviction rates, longer prison sentences. And also, since you mentioned the gun issue a couple of times in your introduction, make it so that victims are able to go and defend themselves. In places like Los Angeles and New York that you're mentioning, they still make it very difficult relative to the rest of the country for people to go and carry a permanent concealed handgun, for example. Yeah, it's extremely difficult.

Someone we're supporting Michael Gates is running for AG here in California. California. And, you know, our AG has not been doing any lawyering or any, anything, frankly, other than sort of representing. And, you know, his wife is trying to put a bill through. They'll make it illegal to actually do investigative reporting around the fraud that the government commits. That's the, that's the level of, I don't know what to call it, whether it's corruption or whatever to call it. But I bring him up only because he has a slogan, which is, I'm going to make crime illegal. again. And that really goes at the crux of the problem here at California. We have undone and everything's legal. Violent crimes are legal. Assault with a weapon is legal. Or they're misdemeanors.

They're not felonies, that's for sure. And certain kinds of assault on women and dealing drugs, trafficking drugs, using drugs, misdemeanors or just a traffic ticket that the cops know that the addicts in the case of the drugs are just going to tear it up. And that's the end of that. they're going to go back to stealing to support their habit, which is also legal. Crime is legal in California. Right. Yeah, it's not rocket science. If you don't make it risky for criminals to go and commit crime, they're going to go and commit more crime. Unfortunately, there have been some changes. The district attorneys in San Francisco and in Los Angeles have been replaced with individuals

who are much more willing than the Soros district attorneys that you had previously there to go and force the law. You still have issues, though, with regard to policing. Politicians still determine how police resources are going to be used and what types of crimes police are going to be going and arresting people, you know, particularly in Los Angeles. But, you know, so it's just a question of whether you're going to have like a new mayor in Los Angeles who's going to give different marching orders to the police that are there.

you know, and give more resources and have more police there. So you can go and go and do things like increase the arrest rates. Yeah, police stations are closed. The only way to file a police report in Los Angeles is either in person or online. That's it. To get an officer to come up for anything other than an imminent, violent, you know, serious, you know, injury crime, forget it. They're not there. not possible.

And that's a big change from a decade ago. I mean, things have changed dramatically there as they have in many other parts of the country. And fire department runs around doing paramedic runs on homeless drug addicts and fires set by homeless people, almost exclusively. Right. Well, you know, you're one of your mayor candidates there who had, received many death threats, Pratt, when he was advised by police and his own security for he and his wife to go and get a concealed carry permit, they were denied at that time, despite facing many death threats that were there. So you're in a situation where the police have their hands

tied, are not able to go and do the job that they want to be able to go and do. At the same time, you make it impossible for civilians in many circumstances, despite lots of death threats and other direct threats against them, to go and protect themselves. So is there a solution, or is there a way to require the politicians to be essentially more honest? Well, look, Trump, I thought, I hoped, kind of educated people some this last year when he federalized law enforcement in D.C. and Memphis. You had many Democrats out there saying that that was going to be counterproductive, that crime rates were actually going to rise. Many have called him a racist for doing it. You know, when he federalized law enforcement in D.C., you had 18 days in a row without a single

murder occurring. You know, if you compare that to the rate that murders were occurring immediately before, there was like a one in 10,000 chance that you could go 18 days. As far as it being a racist, You know, in D.C., if you look at the most recent data, 96% of the people who were being murdered were blacks. Whose lives do you think you were saving by going and stopping those murders? In January this year, there was a total of two murders that occurred in Washington, D.C. I mean, that's a lot of lives were being saved. And the thing, it's just not, you know, Democrats go and claim that they care about the poor, that they care about the minorities, that they care about illegal aliens. Who do you think the victims of crimes are?

Criminals tend to commit crimes against people who are like themselves. 90% of blacks are murdered by other blacks. About 85% of Hispanics are murdered by other Hispanics. Illegal aliens overwhelmingly commit crimes against other illegal aliens. And so, you know, the situation that you have is that they want to be nice to black or Hispanic criminals that are there. But who is that at the expense of? That's at the expense of black victims, of Hispanic victims. And so, and it's more than just the direct victims of crime. You know, when you go and have heavy crimes in those areas, stores go out of business. Who works in many of those stores? Who shops in those stores that are no longer there or has to pay higher prices because of the crime there? Who owns homes in those areas whose housing prices? are depressed because of the fact that they have higher crime rates in those areas. They claim that they care about blacks and Hispanics that they care about the poor.

But the only ones that they're helping are the criminals who are going and hurting law-abiding blacks and Hispanics. So although I want to hear about, excuse me, the gun control myth. It's over your left shoulder there. And what you have to share with us as that pertains to that. I understand you have some data that suggests lack of air conditioning in Europe kills more people than guns in the U.S. And I have to warn you, I don't believe your data either. I don't believe anybody's data. So I, but please make your case.

Sure. Well, I used to, when I was at Wharton and the University of Chicago, I used to teach environmental regulation type issues. And so I know a little bit about this. And, you know, people die from hot temperatures, but they also die. from cold temperatures. And, you know, you can go and check this. Obviously, one has to rely on medical examiners and other things to accurate report that. And, you know, there are lots of pressures and other things that they may face. So those numbers may be questionable. But at least the official numbers that you have for whether it be Europe or the United States or worldwide,

you basically find that people die from cold weather at about eight times the rate that they go and die from too high at temperatures. And so, you know, obviously they're tradeoffs that you want to have. But, you know, often the discussion that we have over time is that somehow we're on the knife edge for the right temperature. If it gets either too warm or too cold, it's going to be a disaster. And, you know, you look over the last 600 million years or so, and the average temperature was much higher than it is now. We're still near the bottom in terms of the temperature trough that's there. We just got out of the little ice age in 1850. And, you know, if you were just to guess, you'd probably think we're going to be reversing towards the mean that's there.

else equals. And so we still have ways to go to even get back to the meet. Yeah. And so guns themselves will usually I'll be talking about with Andy and to some extent with Drew, you're not concerned about concealed carry creating more

accidents and more suicides and more issues. In other words, I worry about that stuff from a public, from just a public health standpoint. And it really requires a lot of training and supervision to be done safely, right? Well, look, we have about 21 million Americans in the United States who have a concealed handgun permit. You have 29 constitutional carry states where it's not necessary for somebody to have a permit to be able to go and carry.

And so we have lots of data over many decades to go and see how people behave. And one of the things that you immediately see is how incredibly long. abiding, individuals are who have a concealed carry permit. They are convicted of firearms-related crimes at about 1-12th, the rate that police officers are convicted of firearm-related crimes, and police are rarely convicted of firearms-related crimes, about 120th the rate of the general population. And most of the convictions, even for the civilians with permits, are things like forgetting to have their permit with them, or accidentally carrying their permanent concealed handguns, into a gun-free zone.

So even those low rates really don't involve threats against other people. You know, with regard to suicides, you know, there's data from Michigan, for example, on suicides by concealed care permit holders. And, you know, once you adjust for age, basically what you find is that permit holders

are committing suicide at about 30% of the rate that the general population in Michigan is committing suicides. So, you know, if all the concealed handgun does is allow you to go and carry it outside, if somebody's going to go and commit a suicide with their gun at home, they can still do that, whether they have a permit or not. But, you know, you can look at these things. So much of the gun control debate is about what things might possibly go wrong rather than going in looking at the data.

I see this all the time with things like, you know, allowing teachers or staff to be able to go and carry guns at schools. We have about 14,000 public schools in the United States that allow teachers and staff to carry out of about 100,000. Some of these schools have had it for decades. And you look at the legislative debates. People will say things that a teacher may lose their temper and shoot a student or a student may get a hold of a gun. and go and harm others. Are those possible? Yeah, sure, they're possible. But we don't need to guess. You can go and look at all those cases. And looking at the data from 2000 through the end of last year, there's not one single case like that that's occurred. In fact, if you look at the data, what you find is that all the shootings at schools where anybody's been wounded or killed in attack have all occurred in schools where teachers and staff are banned from being able to go and, have guns. You know, these killers may be crazy in some sense, but they're not stupid.

If you read their diaries and manifestos overwhelmingly, they want to go and get media attention, and they know the more people they kill or wound, the more media attention they're going to get. And so the media doesn't cover this. But in their diaries and manifestos, they explain how they want to go to a gun-free zone because they think they'll be able to go and kill more people. and get more media attention. And there's, you know, the question is also one of alternatives.

We've recently done a study looking at all the active shootings in the United States over the 11 years from 2014 through 2024. And what you find is that civilians with concealed handgun permits actually stop much more of those attacks than uniformed police do. And I don't think people appreciate the difficult jobs that are, uniform police officer has. If you have somebody in uniform and somebody's going to go and shoot up an area and they see an officer there, they have real tactical advantages. They can either wait for the officer to leave the area before they attack or they can move on to another target. Either one of those

things make it less likely that the officer is going to be there to stop. Or if they insist on attacking there, who do you think they shoot first? We found that police, even though they stopped fewer of those attacks were 12 times more likely to end up getting killed than the civilians that were there. I just want to give a nod to one of your other books, dumbing down the courts, how politics keeps the smartest judges off the bench. I think everyone now has some awareness of that, but you brought that to light in 2013, clairvoyant. Well, you know, the thing is, somebody like you is unlikely to ever be on a jury. And the reason is, is because you're a very persuasive guy. If any of the lawyers on either side of a case

think that you might be leaning even so slightly the other way, they're going to strike you from the jury pool because you're more than one vote. You're likely to go and pull several of the other jurors with you. And the same thing is true with very bright judges that can be there. If they're on a panel, a circuit court panel, or on the Supreme Court, you can't. about whether your opponents can put the very brightest people on because they'll make arguments that may affect the other members of the panel that are there. And so you find, for example, that if somebody goes to a top 10 law school, served on the law review, clerked for, you know, kind of a golden ticket for clerking for an appeals court judge in the Supreme Court,

it took them 167% longer to go through the confirmation process than somebody who didn't go to a top law school, didn't do particularly well in law school, and didn't get any clerkships. And they were about 37% less likely to be confirmed. You know, I was called into a jury box at one point, and I thought, oh, my God, I'm going into the, you know, they're starting to read the rules and things.

And the judge goes, I'm your friend. I'm your friend. You got to go to the bathroom. Just tell me, I'll let you go to the bathroom. No problem. much you have a good experience here. He goes, but I need to know if all of your peers are of one opinion and you're the standout, I need to know that you can't be persuaded by all these other people. And I said, I can't say that. There's no way I can say that. Come on. And he goes, what do you mean

you can't say that? I go, you're doing it right now. You're persuading me right this minute. You're making my point. And so it's like, wow, it's such a weird world they live in with the jury pool. too smart to be on maybe many juries, I'm sure. Well, I was kicked off immediately after that. So I thought maybe the judge had done something. But, well, listen, where shall we find you? Should we go to X or where? And obviously we should get the book.

They can find all our research at our website at crimeresearch.org. Crimeresearch.org. And the book is the gun control myths, plural. Thank you, John. I appreciate you being here. It's an honor to be on. Thank you for being there. Cheers.

All right. We are going to speak with Andy Ross, nowx. He is a gun enthusiast. He's an accomplished singer-songwriter, TV host, CEO. You can follow him on ex-Andy Ross Rebel and Andyross.com.

Let's see where else you've got for Andy. All right, he'll be back. Spend a little time with us and stay with us after that because Drew Thomas Allen, columnist, author, political analyst, is going to talk to us, they really get into the hoax part of our show today. Stay with us.

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Way before any of the World Health Organization hysteria, 11,000 deaths, not 11,000 cases. We have, like, I think it's too, how many, you know, obviously we wanted, we need to contain this thing. People need to address it very seriously. But this current outbreak is nowhere near the severe outbreaks they had 15 and 20 years ago. All right. We're going to switch gears a little bit. And we're going to talk to, whoop. There we go. Andy Ross. Andy Ross can be followed on X at Andy Ross Rebel, also Andy Ross.com. Entrepreneur, singer, songwriter, CEO, founder of Digital Ally, Inc. Andy, welcome to the program.

Hey, happy to be here. Thank you for having me. So one of the things that I was alerted to as it pertains to you, I'm going to find this substack here. I think you wrote this substack. Is this you, the Guns Beer and Rock and Roll? Is that you? I'm not sure that I wrote it, but I'm 1,000% behind it. Are you talking about a song? or a book? It looks like it's the Publius National Post. Newark, it says

this is the Montana Attorney General saying New York is trying to kill the firearms manufacturing industry, one lawsuit at a time. Two dozen Republic State attorneys generals are backing gun manufacturers in their legal battles in New York. So is this now the assault weapons

they're going after? Yeah, they're going after everything that Everything that they can, the thing in New York they're trying to do is allow citizens and people to sue the gun manufacturers for any crimes that guns were used in or participated in, which was protected by the Arms Act, but they're allowing it to happen. And any way they can chip away at gun laws through lawsuits, that's just their movement towards, you know, overall gun control, you know, one bite at a time. So I have to admit I'm pretty naive when it comes to guns and I don't really understand the energy around assault weapons on either side. So I want you to explain to me and the audience why anyone would need an assault weapon. Well, the right to bear arms gives us the right to defend ourselves. If I'm carrying a single shot 22, you know, it's kind of hard.

to defend yourself to some of the guns that someone with bad intentions on their mind might be carrying. So, you know, I love the shooting sports. I have some of those rifles and carbuners, and, you know, you have the right to defend yourself with what you might need to defend yourself with. So, you know, there's no, as far as, you know, the gun control over those type of weapons, There's about every weapon. You could go to Home Depot or just about anywhere and get what you need to turn it into that kind of weapon. So, you know, they're safer coming from the manufacturer. They're safer and there's classes around them.

And, you know, they're a part of our firearms that we have the right to carry. Let me kind of scratch in a little deeper. I mean, really aren't we just talking? about our freedoms being encroached upon. I mean, gun is just a hot topic. But ultimately, isn't it that we've seen our government, see what they're able to do? They're able to throw away the bill of rights that they want to.

And they can lock you in your home. They can do all kinds of things that we never knew they could do. As a result, has this particular issue become more heated? Yeah, it's always at the top of the list. You know, when people are debating our rights, our freedoms. It's always a good political debate. It's always broad, you know, it's always heightened around election times, midterms, campaigns. You know, I have a place in downtown Nashville as well as my place out here in the country. And, you know, I walk out the door and I go a half a block

down the road and there's a bank there. And I go in there and there's an armed guard in that bank. And I understand that. There's a lot of money in the bank. It's a target. Two doors down, there's a jewelry store. They've got a lot of diamonds and jewelry in there. They have an armed guard, and I get that. There's a lot of valuables in there. But, you know, I've got family heirlooms and, you know, grandfather's things that mean a lot to me and books that have been given to me and a tractor and, you know, a lot of valuables.

And, of course, my family means the world. I don't have to hire an armed bodyguard to be able to protect myself. I choose to do it myself or take that responsibility on. But I deserve the right to do that, just like that bank or jewelry store has the right to protect what they seem to be valuable. And I chose the description assault weapon intentionally because I know it's a hot button vocabulary. And it's mostly used by people who are questioning gun rights, right? Like, what do you need that for? That's actually why I framed it that way because I wanted you to address that specifically.

How would you describe these weapons? Most of the assault weapons, they look more military and they kind of have that look about them. But, you know, it's not any different really than an automatic shotgun or an automatic rifle. They just kind of have a curb appeal to them that a lot of people, you know, make them think that they're more for military and, you know, why do we have them? they're not that different than a lot of the hunting firearms and things we have that are that are you know automatic in nature so one of our children went to Vanderbilt so we spent a lot of time in Nashville and we we love that town it was we were there before it got so um bachelor atchlorette partyish before yeah me too what happened.

Why couldn't it have done that when I was in my late 20s and 30s? Why didn't it have to get bachelorette like when I'm, you know, in my 50s? But yeah, I've been here 18 years, so I know what you're talking about. Yeah, and before the gulch was built and before, you know, it was just, it really just exploded. And we know why. It's a wonderful place and a wonderful community, wonderful place to live. Tell me more about your music. You know, I had a real quick, I had a TV show called Maximum Archery World Tour,

and I bow hunted all over the world for 10 years. I wrote these hunting songs. I thought they'd be fun for the show. Got to go hunting blues, hunt me down, Buck of a Lifetime, stuff like that. And, you know, this thing called iTunes came out, Napster, the internet exploded. And next thing I knew I had music going all over the country and around the world. And Nashville called, gave me the opportunity to make music and make records. It just released a new single called Hold My Beer off the fourth record.

And I had a song called American Rebel in 2015. We were able to turn into a brand. So music's been a blessing to me. I love to create. It gives me an opportunity at a creative outlet. I get to write with a lot of great writers. And of course, Nashville is a great place to do it. My wife's grandmother hunted with a bow and arrow in Ohio.

She was from the old country. and she did so until she was 85 and ran an archery club and the whole thing. Nice, exactly. It's a great sport whether you use it, you know, even if you don't hunt. It's the shooting sport of it and the archery competition. It's great for kids. It's great for adults. And I still love to bow hunt and try to do it as much as possible.

Yeah. As she got older, they would do decoys sort of phony animals, you know, sort of pretend animals in the bush somewhere that they would shoot. But, you know, she's not, she's not 75, she's 85. It's hard. 75 to 85 is a pretty, that's a pretty, that's a difference. Well, do people, where do you want people to go to hear your music, download the music? How does it work now?

You know, everything, Andy Ross is it American, is it Andy Ross.com, all my music. Andy Ross is on all digital outlets. American Rebel, our companies, American Rebel.com, American Rebelbeer.com. And, you know, it's not hard to find. Well, Andy, appreciate you being here and we will look for you there. Thanks so much. Thank you. You got it.

All right. We could either, Caleb, take a little break here or get Drew Thomas Allen in. Which would you prefer? Let's go ahead and take a break so he gets the full segment. So we don't cut him off. All right. All right. We'll take a little break here.

So Drew Thomas Allen, Daily Signal columnist, author of Clinton hoax, Obama coup, the declassified story of the Trump-Russia collusion, Russia delusion. Yeah, delusion, I agree with. He hosts the Drew Allen show, serves as West Coast VP at Publius PR.

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My pleasure. We are going to take your calls at 8333-D-R-D-R-A-W. All right. Drew Thomas Allen joins us. We're going to talk about the, I have a lot to shorten it to, well, the Russia, the Russia delusion. I like that. It's a Russia hoax.

It's more commonly known. But Drew Thomas Allen knows a bit about it. Drew, thank you. Welcome to the program. Hey, doctor. Good to be with you. So do you agree that the Overton window in this topic is opening? And I notice even on X, there are people claiming to be sort of, not whistleblowers,

but so much as firsthand witnesses to exactly what your book is about. when I don't think I was ever seeing that before. I was saying to Dr. Lott, I don't believe anything. Everything is, I don't know what to believe anymore. I'm just consuming it. I'm thinking about it, but I don't know what's true and what isn't. Tell me what's true. Well, what's true is that a Clinton hoax did in fact turn into an Obama coup.

And as bad as Clinton we know to be in this country after, you know, decades and decades of the Clinton family being around and their various scans. of the scandals, Obama was so much worse, and he had a way of usurping even things that should have been Clinton scandals and making them about him. And, you know, what's amazing is that, you know, we're 10 years later, and people might say, well, you know, why is this relevant? Why do we care? Why should we care anymore? And I would say that, you know, without the accountability, we've seen an escalation since 2016. As bad as the Clinton hoax, Obama coup was with Trump-Russia collusion, which was delusional to begin with, four years later, we arguably had a contested, if not stolen election that many people believe to be the case. That aside, we had, you know, 51 former intelligence officers or agents who came forward and lied telling us that the

Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation. That was, of course, election meddling. And then you fast forward four years later as you approach the 2024 election, and you've got unprecedented lawfare that would make, you know, Stalin blush. And the reason this is happening is because a combination of desperation of those who have been involved in these things over the decades. And, you know, really we're in a more dangerous situation, I think, right now presently than we were even in 2016, because these individuals are really hungry to get back in power to continue to cover this stuff up. And, of course, to continue the escalation of this type of political nonsense that has no place in the United States of America. How do you allege that President Obama usurped the hoax for his own use?

Yeah, so, you know, this book actually starts it with Benghazi long before Trump-Russia collusion to lay the groundwork because it didn't happen in a vacuum. Benghazi just very briefly, if people want to recall, you know, you had U.S. ambassadors Christopher Stevens and other Americans who were murdered in a premeditated terrorist attack on September 11th, 2012. And it was a couple of months, less than two months, away from Obama's re-election. And so it kind of should have been a Clinton scandal because it was her, you know, Secretary of State, it was her department who ignored warnings and didn't provide additional security. But Obama ultimately is his White House that had the CIA. He weaponized the CIA, corrupted the CIA to revise the talking points 12 times, to then send Susan Rice out there to lie to the American people to say that it was a spontaneous protest.

that was a result of some obscure anti-Muslim, anti-Islam video. So there you have his willingness to weaponize and corrupt an intelligence agency, in that case, the CIA, to secure a political outcome, which was his reelection. When you get to Trump-Russia collusion, you know, some of it was about protecting his legacy, but people have to recall that, you know, Clinton was a private citizen. She wasn't working in the Obama administration at the time, so she could not have carried out this hoax-turned coup without the, willing participation of the Obama administration. It was the Obama administration's FBI that ultimately

launched Crossfire Hurricane, the surveillance campaign into the Trump campaign in 2016. And the irony of this, of course, is that they were accusing Trump of and the Russians of interfering the election, but they were interfering in the election themselves with this crossfire hurricane and Trump-Russia nonsense. And then Obama, of course, you know, they knew that this was a Clinton plan. They'd been briefed on it. Obama was briefed on it in August. And then, you know, Trump survived. The American people said, we're not going to go along with this. And they elected him. And they should have let it go.

But it got escalated in December, December 7th, when Obama himself ordered the intelligence community assessment that put a government rubber stamp of approval on the Trump, Russia collusion hoax to hamstring him as he went into office and was inaugurated. And that was an unprecedented move. It's one thing, right, Dr. Drew, to engage in kind of dirty campaign tricks. I mean, we don't like it. October surprises, you know, these things happen. It's bad, but it's not illegal. But what Obama did was escalating this into something that we hadn't seen before. So I want to try to tie some ideas together based on what you just said.

So one is how do we know this was actually coming from on high versus an intelligence community that was out of control, which is something people have been suspicious about for a while, right? And is it not true in either case that they then took the COVID hoax to try to manipulate the next election? And it seems like, I don't know, this is kind of a separate thought, but you keep using the word delusion. And I agree, the American people fell into a delusional state. and I guess I'm wondering is that by design, I mean, the kind of mind control techniques that people have now are extraordinary. So is that the desired outcome? Is that intelligence out of control? Is it White House on high? And was COVID one of the other hoaxes that they used to manipulate all this? Because that's where the delusions really seem to go into high gear.

Yeah, I mean, in terms of the book, and those are great questions, in terms of, of the book with a Trump-Russia delusion, the premise was delusional. Right. Just like COVID, it was delusional to believe that down the street from a Wuhan lab that happened to be engaged in creating, you know, bat coronaviruses. It came from bat soup down the street. You know, it was delusional to believe that narrative. Well, the premise of Trump-Russia collusion was that simply Vladimir Putin would rather have Donald Trump as president than Hillary Clinton. And of course, it was the, I mean, it was Obama and Clinton who went over to Russia to try and reset relations, literally, you know, the invasion of Crimea was happening under the Obama administration. He really

didn't take much action. He said, we're not going to get involved militarily. This is terrible. We'll put some superficial sanctions on him that they'll evade. And then, of course, famously, it was Hillary Clinton, whose husband Bill went over to Russia and was paid, I think, half a million dollars for a speech by a Moscow, you know, government-linked banking center that had a vested interest in securing a deal for American uranium. That was the uranium one deal. And so, you know, I mean, so the idea that they wouldn't want Hillary Clinton, who obviously had been friendly to, I mean, it was like the best time ever for the Russians under the Obama administration, the Clinton family. And so that premise was absurd. See, that was delusional to believe that

to begin with. But there is something. dangerous that's happened. And it's happened to all of us, you, me, people on the right side of history and people who, frankly, on the wrong side of history. And that is this distrust of government, which in itself, we should be suspicious of government. That's the founding this country. But we're entitled to our own facts at this point, right? That's kind of how people operate. It doesn't matter, right? I mean, where's the outrage today about what happened with COVID? I mean, people seem to have forgotten it. They have kind of collective amnesia and just moved on. And part of the reason with this book and COVID, we can't move on.

We can't move on until there's accountability because it's doomed to happen again. You know, I read a story or an analysis of Germans after the Second World War, and they did exactly the same thing that we're doing with COVID. They just went into kind of a collective amnesia. It's like, yeah, that happened. We got to move on. And it wasn't until the next generation that came in. So it's going to be like for us, it's going to be the alpha genesis.

generation or even behind them, we started asking questions and to start digging it all up. But people do tend to do this. Because science was so badly adulterated and the public health system was exposed to be a mess, there are things that we still, we can't let go of. We have to solve because they're just too serious. We can't. I personally, I don't need retribution. I need truth.

and I need laws or loopholes closed so we can't do this again. Well, I can just use myself as a perfect example. Prior to COVID, I really had inherent trust in the medical community. I believe they had my best interest. I didn't question the vaccine stuff. You know, I've got two young girls now, right, a three-year-old and a 16-month-old. It's a very different story now, but it was the COVID scam that broke that open for me because you knew that that was a dangerous.

You knew that they rushed it. You knew that it wasn't good. And we're finding all of that out now. And they lied to us and they made lots of money that we paid for. And if they would lie about COVID and that vaccine, well, why wouldn't they lie about the others? And so it broke open this thing. But here's the problem, Dr. Drew. There is good that can come from medicine.

I don't believe that we have to just drink only green tea, you know, to solve all of our problems. But if a vaccine comes along that is necessary one day, that is safe, why would I even believe that to be true, even if it is the case, if we don't correct this now and restore trust? No, I know. Yeah, I agree. And so a lot of people, you, me, were sort of one black pill, red pill, some kind of pill during COVID.

Is that happening with the Russia collusion hoax also? Are people sort of, this was sort of my original question, because I'm seeing much more stuff on X that is sort of, it would have been at least dampened and really sort of firsthand accounts, much like you're describing.

And is there something happening right now, do you think? I think so. I mean, part of it is that people feel safe to do so now. You know,

the temporary era, which could come back of mass suppression of free speech, which you know very well. Our mutual friend Naomi Wolf knows very well. Lots of people really

were suffered because of speaking the truth, things that turned out to be true. So I think that, you know, the tide has turned a little bit. And look, a lot of people, many people voted for Trump, not for retribution, but for accountability, simply to hold people accountable for crimes or that were committed. And I hope that people understand that there is a line between what happened with Trump-Russia collusion and what we're experiencing today. And again, that's why I start with Benghazi, to try and make the case to people and explain that this didn't happen to vacuum, right? It was a long period of time in which, you know, the Obama administration in particular got away with, for example, classifying the Fort Hood shooting in which a Muslim

army captain, I believe he was, Nadal Hassan jumped on a table, yelled al-Ahu Akbar and killed a dozen or 13 Americans and injured dozens of others. And he looked into the, the cops. And he looked into the cause and concluded that it was workplace violence. And, you know, that required the, the assistance of Robert Mueller and others at that time. And so when you see that type of behavior happen, when you see an administration get away with the, you know, Benghazi, this was a spontaneous protest, despite knowing and acknowledging that that was not true. And then you get to Trump-Russia inclusion. It's on steroids. I mean, this stuff grows. It metastasizes like a cancer. And it's very dangerous. And it's very damaging to the republic because at the end of the day, you know, the government exists because we

allow it to exist, right? You don't go and rob your neighbor, et cetera, because you believe that that shouldn't take place. But if those things erode, you get anarchy. So what is your hypothesis of what's going on here? Is it just people that, is it boiling the frog? They just became more and more willing to do more and more outrageous things to win or to get control or to whatever it is their thinking? What's your sense? Or is it sort of formal mind control, you know, persuasion techniques being applied, and just on scale that has gone completely wild? Well, I think it's the worst vices of human nature. If I look at my three-year-old, you know, she's in a stage, a little three-nager who's constantly pushing the boundaries, right,

to see what she can get away with, how far she can go before there is a response from her father or her mother in this case to say, hey, reel it back in, let's not do that. And so the same thing happens in a much more complex and dangerous way when you talk about people with the ultimate power at the government, at the presidential level, et cetera. I mean, if these people get away with something and realize that no accountability is going to come, well, guess what? They're going to go that much further next time. And then there's desperation. You know, if the walls start to close in, they want to escape accountability too. And so they lose any kind of rational thinking. There's not a lot of rational thought behind it, I think. So, I mean,

I don't think that everything is a long, grand conspiracy. Some things are policy-wise from kind of the Marxist wing of this Democrat party that's been mainstream today and others. But for the most part, I think it's just human nature that just spirals out of control when it doesn't have any kind of decent, virtuous people to reel it in. And the founding fathers understood that. They talked about, you know, I mean, Abraham Lincoln, 20 years or so before the Civil War, gave the speech, the Lyceum address, and you had all this mob rule happening, you said, look, you think that the Constitution would, would restrain someone like Napoleon Bonaparte? Forget about it. You know, these documents don't do that. You need a moral citizenry, and everyone from George

Washington forward understood that. Yeah, our reliance, our need for bottom-up containment is, bottom-up is also how bad happens, how, you know, Matthias Desmond and Mark Kanchise, Shankise, they've all sort of chronicled this phenomenon of bottom up in the name of good doing tremendous evil. That's sort of the nature of totalitarianism.

It's not from on high necessarily somebody imposing things on the populace. It's bottom up. You know, people are brown shirts and people yelling at their neighbors for having barbecues during COVID, all this stuff. So yes, you're right. We do need to be, but you know,

we don't even have a common culture anymore. We need to find at least a common understanding of what this country is. We have to kind of get that all back. I talk about that a lot and think about that a lot. You know, it's interesting. If you look at Republicans and Democrats, Pew, I think, is the one who's been tracking it since, I think, early 2000s, patriotism in this country.

People who say they are extremely proud to be American. And even when Obama was elected, Republicans were still more, a larger percentage of Republicans, expressed extreme pride in being American than even Democrats. And you would think that Democrats would be the highest ever because of Barack Obama being in there. So that's a huge problem with patriotism, certainly. And we've got to do a better job. I think about this too, because I spent my youth in my 20s living and working to Mark Jacobs. I was a legal resident, I would like to add.

And I went over, you know, all of my immigration stuff is through that lens, too, because I didn't waved the American flag when I lived in Milan. I assimilated. I spoke Italian out of respect, even though, you know, Italians speak English, especially in Milan, but it was important to do that, to experience that culture. And I often think about, to get back to your point, I often think about this, you know, if you ask people, hey, what does it mean to be American? I doubt that many people could give you a very concrete answer, but I can kind of tell you what it means to be an Italian, because even though that's a socialist country, not fully socialist, but it's a socialist country, certainly. Oddly, their culture remains intact and our culture is totally fraying.

Yeah, I'm really worried about that too. But we just got to keep, as you said, it feels like things are turning a little bit and hopefully we can keep raising awareness and talking about it. And thank God our freedoms have been sort of restored, if not, you know, sort of protected. Are you working on another book at this time? No, I need a high. Actually, I'm working on a book that I've been working on for like three years, which is a memoir about my experience in Italy. You know, it's a love story. I met my wife over there. She's not Italian. She's blonde from Long Beach, California. We both went to Pepperdine, but didn't know each other while we were there. It's a crazy story. But, you know, I was an actor in L.A. and I moved to Manhattan after graduating from Pepperdine with an acting scholarship. And I wanted to be an actor. And I got to the this crazy job to move to Milan without any retail experience to open and manage the first Mark Jacobs retail store in Italy, which is an insane. But that only happens to an American. And so my worldview actually was shaped my first real job that paid quite well at the time, you know, was working in Italy.

And so I have a little bit different perspective. I mean, it made me appreciate and understand really what it meant to be an American because I kind of wanted to be Italian, to be honest, doctor. And then I got there and I realized, you know what? No matter what I do, even if I speak fluently, et cetera, I'm never really going to be Italian. You can only come to America and truly assimilate and become an American. That's how unique this country is. Yeah. Yeah. The other, the trying to be Italian, you don't have that common history, the common genetics, common anything. They rely on that as the nature of their country, how they define themselves. But, Have you seen that docu series about the designers?

Mark Jacobs was one of them. It's a long docu series. I watched like nine of them on a, I got fascinated with it on a long flight one time. It's quite crazy what was going on then. Oh, I mean, I can tell you some stories about what I witnessed and saw even working for Mark Jacobs.

And, you know, nothing criminal. But it was a wild world to be in. And especially because I don't come from that world. I didn't really want to be in that world. You know, I'm just some kind of, you know, born and raised in Texas, you know, a Christian guy. And I'm immersed in this world. You know, it's much like Hollywood, but obviously, you know,

slightly different. But it was the Wild West for sure. Yeah. I think if I remember, right, the documentary series was really designed around looking at the luxury brands, you know, the French luxury brands and the Italian luxury bands. And then the designers that were driving the, the couture and then where they went out of there. And the big stories like Tom Ford, obviously, that kind of thing.

But Mark Jabe is part of that story. And it was really quite fascinating. There was a peek behind the curtain. I had no idea. So welcome back. I'm glad you're here. I feel like you've got another book in you. That's why I asked that question.

I don't know if you're ruminating about it or what. But maybe it's the memoir that you're talking about. But thank you for writing this one. I think it's important that we do get to the truth. we've gone through a phase, a long phase, where the truth doesn't matter on any domain, particularly as it pertains to politics. But I think if people start to look at what has happened to us, what they've done to us quite literally, and what we've been exposed to and have we been manipulated, I think people are kind of waking up. And I think that's a good thing. Yeah, yeah.

I talked to Newt Gingrich about this a couple months ago. And one of the things we're saying is, you know, as a father, I realize, hey, you know, I'm a father. 24-7. There's no days off, no time off. And somehow we've gotten lured into this idea as American citizens that were only American citizens, you know, with a responsibility every two or four years when we vote. And that's not true. Citizenship in this country in particular is a 24-7, 365-day-a-year job. And if we start to look at our role in that way as stewards of this country, we can't change it faster than we think. I'm actually glad you said that because, you know, most of my life, we took freedom and freedom of speech for granted. It was just assumed.

and words like courage and, you know, asserting freedom of, you know, asserting your civil liberties, these were not things I expected to be doing at this stage of my life. But it's because we got lulled into sort of a, not as opposed to being a delusion, we were in sort of a state of stupor. And now we've got to come out of that. I worry that because it is a delusion we've been in, that, you know, each side will start swinging into, you know, delusional beliefs on the other side. I'm seeing it happen with COVID where everything is this, everything is that.

It's like, let's just get to the truth. The truth matters, and we have to reestablish it as something important. And we'll never know it fully. Only God knows the full truth. We can come to an approximation of it. That's how we do science. That's how I'm able to talk to you through these cameras and electronics. Let's keep aiming for the truth.

Thank you for writing to the book, Drew, and hopefully we can talk again soon. Thanks, Dr. Drew. Appreciate your time. You got it. All right. Caleb, my call in studio sort of shut down all of a sudden. Are we off there? Yes, we are. That's what that sound was you heard. For some reason, it just shut down in the middle of the show. But it's all good. We're close to the end anyway. All right. So we're not, we're not open for calls right now. I was hoping to take some calls if anybody was out there. Let me just kind of look at the Veritas, Oliver Green. Yes, Veritas indeed. I'm looking at the re-stream.

I'm looking at the Rumble Rants. No, no, no. Hex 1. I am not talking about hierarchy of needs. I'm not talking about that at all. I'm talking about the fact that in a mass formation, 10% of the people raised their hand and go, hey, something's wrong.

20% are true believers and perpetrate untold harm as true believers. and 70% keep their head down and just want to be left alone. But that 20% of true believers is the bottom up that gets the delusions going, gets the hysterias going. Again, it's such a clear example in COVID. People reporting their neighbors for having barbecues or yelling at somebody at the Costco for not wearing a mask, you would be the prison guards in Germany.

That's what you're showing yourself to be, at least certainly amongst, the Nazis. When you believe yourself to be a Nazi fighter. No, no, no. That's not the symptom here. The symptom is of being caught in the delusional systems and caught in the mob action and not being able to think for yourself and then dehumanizing other people and trying to cancel and silence them. This is not a healthy impulse. You should really pay attention to it. If you're prone to it, You've got to, I don't know, you've got to be careful and watch yourself. And I'm increasingly worried about, as I told Drew, I'm increasingly worried about going to extremes with any of this.

Like if you remember yesterday, I started, I was sort of reassessing my thoughts about COVID during the Alpha and Delta phase and my thoughts about the utility of the vaccine and elderly patients during the Alpha and Delta phase and how profoundly. different that was than the omicron and how profoundly different it is when we have treatments like axelbitil, multipyrivere, and we had simple repurposing drugs we could have been using as well that we didn't because we were in hysterical state and the fact is this is a there's nothing to be afraid of we have so many good treatments we have a mild illness now you could have continued to mutate into something kind of nasty or I suppose it could but we've got good treatments around the vaccine not clearly that it's doing anything. It certainly isn't designed for the particular

variants that come around. So I don't know. Let's just stay with the truth. And forcing college age kids to get it was one of the most degregious actions in this whole nightmare that was COVID.

So anyway, man, Susan, you're sitting back down at the control panel here. Is everything good from your standpoint? I want to see another little footage of Adams. My videography. is Hollywood Walk of Fame. Because it was a nice ceremony.

Jimmy was hysterical. Adam was hysterical. I had Drew miced. So I was getting the conversation, whatever he was having. So not everybody could see this part. What is really funny, I thought. But are we able to see some video again?

Well, so is it the one that I had on earlier when they were showing it? I had that one. Yeah. Yeah, let me see. Oh, yeah. Let me see. I don't know if there's anything else. Let's see with the audio this time.

Interesting. Okay. Does that stand up? No, no. Well, that was the end of it. That's all right. Start at the beginning. No, no, no, it's okay.

It's okay. We didn't see that last time, so that's okay. That's funny when he said it. Ladies and gentlemen, and our newest Hall of Famer, Walk of Famer, Adam Carolla. It's fantastic. What do you say?

I didn't hear the part. He said, I'm sorry. Like they spelled his name. Like they spelled it wrong. Because people always spelled his name wrong. This dude. People always spell his name wrong. They spell it like the car all the time.

And so he's like, oh, you spelled it wrong. No, they spelled it correct. Yeah, if you want to see more clips, go to Adamcrawler.com or his ex or Twitter or whatever. because he's posting Drew's speech there. So let's put the upcoming shows here. I've got a little fill-in going on with Kira Davis and Dr. Victory. Good guest coming in. Dr. Victory is Steve Kirsch.

That'll be interesting. Really? Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah. And Dad's sad when we get back. Batcha Ungar Sargon we get back. And who's that bought?

Oh, Andy, Andy Yang. Andrew Yang. That'll be great to see him too. We and I are in a reality show that will air, I think in July on Fox and got to know Andy pretty well. Very quickly. That's what happens on these. Oh, Andy. How cute.

Yeah, it's what happens on these reality shows. You get Stockholm syndrome like fast. Everyone, we all talked about it. It's like, wow, this is all of a sudden so important to us. And we're one day in. So it's really kind of interesting. So did I hear you guys had a glitch in the system in the internet? No, the call system just.

shut down. Oh, good. Yeah, no, otherwise we're fine. I need to know if we need to call the internet people again. Nope, no, the internet was good. Everything is good. Basically, they would have to lay a cable, a hundred yard cable up our driveway. And I want to make sure while we're gone, it gets

done if it has done. That'll be good. All right. So, we appreciate you supporting us and having a look at my fill-in host. There's a lot of enthusiasm for Dr. Victory. I'm seeing on the Restream. She's great. And we love having her here when she comes in. Remember when Steve Kirsch wanted to get

a doctor and debate him and he was going to pay somebody a hundred grand to do it and nobody would do it? I think he's at a million dollars. He was well for a short time but so funny. Yeah, Steve has been a... During the pandemic, he used to call me and go, I wanted debate a doctor.

And I was like, you know, Steve, I don't think doctors want to debate you. He has been an evangelist. Steve invented the optical mouse. The light optical mouse. Yeah, the optical mouse. And he's obviously a very bright guy.

He researched everything up and down. He was like, this is not right. Well, he came out with fluvoxamine, Louvox being a useful drug to help protect the brain. And I took it with my long COVID. It was very helpful. Allow me to keep working. Right.

But learning language was the most effective thing in ameliorating my long COVID symptoms. All right, everybody. We appreciate you all being here. We will not be in tomorrow. I believe is Kelly coming on Tuesday? Is that the next show? Wait, is that a Tuesday? Yes, that is a Tuesday.

So she's going to be coming in next week on Tuesday. What is that? June 2nd. Are you going to run best of us or something while we're gone? Oh, yeah. I'm going to have a bunch of good clips. Are you going to run any best ofs? Yeah, yeah.

I have a bunch of good clips. I've been preparing and like stuff from recent, some from older episodes that are really good. Great. Okay. Drew's getting his bucket list checked off. We're going to go see. F1 and Monte Carlo.

Yeah. Have fun. And Adam set me up very kindly with Zach Brown, the McLaren group. He's the principal there. And I read his book and he's a really interesting guy. He's from North Hollywood. He has almost the identical life as Adam. And but his parents were a little different.

So his trajectory was a little different. So I want to talk to him about all that. I hope they win, but that darn Mercedes has that great driver. But they're good on the straight-of- and there ain't no straightaways in Montacarla. We'll see. I'm hopeful. Be very interesting. All right, y'all, thank you off being here.

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