Ask Dr. Drew - They Let Us Burn: Governors Ignore Billions In Fraud (Now In 5 States!) As Cities Crumble Under Homeless & Wildfires w/ Viva Frei, Peter St. Onge & Hailey Grace Gomez of Daily Caller – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 574

Episode Date: January 10, 2026

Federal prosecutors say arrests tied to California’s homeless services are just beginning after investigators – tipped off by a viral Nick Shirley video – uncovered fraud across multiple states. President Trump has accused California of corruption even worse than Minnesota’s multibillion dollar scandal. US Attorney Bill Essayli alleges that real estate executives stole millions from pandemic-era programs, with dozens of active probes underway. Meanwhile, in the wake of the Palisades wildfires, CA Gov. Gavin Newsom is requesting (even more) billions of dollars of federal disaster aid – leaving many CA residents to wonder where their tax dollars have been going. David Freiheit, known as Viva Frei, is an attorney and commentator who hosts The Viva Frei Show on Rumble and Locals. He cohosts Viva & Barnes Live with attorney Robert Barnes. Follow at https://x.com/TheVivaFrei Peter St. Onge, Ph.D. is Senior Economist at the Heritage Foundation, former Fellow at the Mises Institute, and a professor at Feng Chia University in Taiwan. He hosts the Peter St. Onge audio podcast and publishes daily videos on economics and freedom. Follow at https://x.com/profstonge⠀Hailey Grace Gomez is the West Coast Reporter for the Daily Caller. She covers California politics and national stories. Follow at https://x.com/haileyggomez 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 • AUGUSTA PRECIOUS METALS – Thousands of Americans are moving portions of their retirement into physical gold & silver. Learn more in this 3-minute report from our friends at Augusta Precious Metals: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/gold⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or text DREW to 35052 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/fatty15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/paleovalley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • VSHREDMD – Formulated by Dr. Drew: The Science of Cellular Health + World-Class Training Programs, Premium Content, and 1-1 Training with Certified V Shred Coaches! More at https://drdrew.com/vshredmd • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twc.health/drew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠) and Susan Pinsky (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/firstladyoflov⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠e⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Executive Producers • Kaleb Nation - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • Susan Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/firstladyoflove⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Content Producer & Booking • Emily Barsh - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/emilytvproducer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Hosted By • Dr. Drew Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/drdrew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Well, Viva Frye joins us again. He, of course, attorney commentator, the Viva Frye show on Rumble and locals. Viva and Barnes with Robert Barnes follow the Viva Frye, F-R-E-I-on-X. He'll be followed by Peter Sandonge. He is a senior economist at the Heritage Foundation, former fellow at the Mises Institute, professor at Fing Chia University in Taiwan. I didn't know that. He has a podcast, and he publishes daily videos in economics and freedom,

and we're going to talk how things have changed in the last six. to 12 months. They're changing rapidly. And finally, in about an hour, we'll be talking to Haley Grace Gomez, West Coast reporter for the Daily Caller News Foundation, a little California politics and more fraud. And we'll talk to fraud with Peter as well. And maybe even with Eva Fri, because fraud is on the agenda at all times. For me, I'm shocked. If somebody had told me that the government was doing this, I wouldn't have believed it. I could be Vefa Frye right after this. Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre. The psychopaths start this.

He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction. Fentanyl and heroin, ridiculous. I'm a doctor for, I say, where the hell you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals. Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Loveland all the time, educate adolescents, and to prevent and to treat.

Do you have trouble? You can't stop, and you want to help stop it. I can help. I got a lot to say. I got a lot more to say. One of my very favorite guest, David Fryeheight, also known as Viva Frye. He is a Canadian. What do they call you up there?

You're sort of a, you know, a renegade from the Canadian excesses. Yeah, well, I'm on a government watch list that much is probably for certain. No, former litigator. Now I'm happily living in Florida, got back down after the holidays. And I'm telling you before the show, Drew, it's just, it's heaven on earth here. We go for a jog in the evening. The sun is setting. people are outside, live in healthy lives.

It's beautiful. It used to be that way in Cal. It used to be because it was drier and there were no insects. So it used to be the same thing here, but better. Now, oh my God, you can't even walk across the street without getting chased by somebody on meth, often armed with a machete. No, no, no. Susan, am I overstating this? You can't get around this town.

I was chased by a homeless woman. and I swear she was that top model that turned into a homeless person that they have on Instagram. She looked just like her. Scared, I had to run. I was on the subway. Nothing to see here.

No, when I told, when I was there and I had to return the car on a Sunday morning and I go to a gas station and couldn't get the cap of the car because it was a new car and then I have to Google how to do it. Almost people literally like zombies out of a movie and then I'm driving away and I see a naked guy running down the street,

like tweaked off his butt at about 930, 8.30 in the morning. It was an LA experience. He just needs a place to live. That's all. Just come on. Come on, Fiva. Just sees a place to live. Give him a break. Just four walls. If four walls cured these complex brain diseases, I would have never worked all those years so hard in the psychiatric hospital. If all I had to do is put him in a room. Wow. Could have been so much easier. Anyway, let's get off of that one. Let's talk a little fraud. Let's talk some Minnesota. I don't know quite what to make of what happened there in Minnesota. Let's just say it's horrible. It's awful that something like this happened. But we've got people running around who are armed who are trying to

deal with the extraordinary, what do we call it, a wave of illegal immigrants that have come into this country. And then the fraud that has ensued. We can talk about that in a second. And then we now have a governor and a mayor saying, get out, as though they have authority over the federal government, which the constitution is explicit that they do not. So we'll talk about the industrial scale of fraud in a second. But first, how do we make sense of the terrible tragedy from today? It's, I don't, I will defer to the other legal analysts as to whether or not they determine it was a, call it a justified shoot. I mean, it's a tragedy. There's no. other word for it. And then the only question is legally, will it go down as a justified shoot,

or as they call it a clean shoot, or will it incur civil or criminal liability? I've seen the videos. I've heard both arguments. There's a lawyer named Andrew Branca who does law of self-defense, and he does these breakdowns. And his analysis from what I understood is it's a justified shoot. The question I want to ask is, you know, does justified me necessary? Or can it be a justified shoot, but unnecessary? Right. You know, everyone will always say, well, the guy could have moved out of the way, let the person flee. And if the question was only fleeing, no, you don't get to use deadly force to prevent someone from fleeing except under certain circumstances of having committed a felony in your view.

There's a whole legal precedent for that. This is whether or not the guy felt that she was trying to hurt him and then using lethal force to protect himself. It's ugly. I'm sure. I'm sure, Viva, that guy wishes he hadn't shot. I'm sure of it. I'm sure there's just no doubt in my mind.

And we all wish he hadn't shot. And you're going to have every Monday morning quarterback or backseat driver saying, if he had time to shoot, he had time to get out of the way. And then the question is, you know, it shot three times. Is the first shot fine? And then the next two are not fine. What's going to happen? And it's not a prediction.

It's going to be virtually a guarantee. This woman is going to go down now as sort of the left's equivalent of Ashley Babbitt during the January 6th where there's a sufficient amount of comparisons where you can say it's analogous, albeit different. You have the media referring to her as a domestic terrorist like they did with Ashley Babbitt. You're going to have people on the right saying she wasn't a domestic terrorist. There was no imminent risk of physical harm that warranted Michael Byrd shooting her. You're going to have people on the left saying that right now.

It's like that scene from V for Vendetta. I just forget the context as to who the bad and the good was in that movie. But you just have these situations escalating each and every time. You get the rhetoric from the politicians escalating each and every time, empowering citizens to think that they are morally, legally, politically allowed to, you know, not defy the authority, but escalate the circumstances of these encounters. And you had a woman who maybe all that she was doing was trying to flee, but you have a sufficient amount of angles now where you're going to have people make the argument. She hit that cop with her car when she was going, whether or not she was intending to kill him, whether or not it was domestic terrorism. He felt his life and limb was in jeopardy. and he killed her. And now at the end of the day, right or wrong, she's dead. This cop's going to be, you know, screwed for life. And it's just a tragedy that's going to be weaponized by both sides, but mostly by the left now. They're going to say they have their martyr. And now this is exactly what they've been warning about. This is what Slotkin was warning about a month and a half ago. They're going to be shooting civilians in the streets. They're going to weaponize it. They're going to use it to demonize ICE agents even more. And I would imagine it's going to escalate before it deescalates.

And then I saw Waltz wanting to bring in National Guard. Do you think he's going to do so? And if they do, will they be able to do their job? I mean, I don't know how it works. The irony is you have people blaming Trump for the terrible state of cities like Philadelphia, like Chicago, while you have simultaneously the courts blocking Trump from bringing in the National Guard. You have these mayors and governors of shithole, you know, crime-ridden cities saying, we don't need you. and we're going to fight you tooth and nail,

but we have rampant crime and lawlessness in our own cities, but we don't need the feds. And if they could do their job, they wouldn't need the feds. And maybe you don't want the feds federalizing law enforcement at the state and local level. They're doing a terrible job, but they're fighting the feds harder than they're fighting crime.

And they're empowering their local criminals, their local activists, they're giving the political permission slips to people to escalate these encounters with law enforcement, whether you like ICE or not, Get out of the way and let them do their job. Oh, but that's letting them win. We need to protest.

We need to get in their faces. We need to impede federal law enforcement. Then stuff like this happens and you can point fingers at each other until you're blue in the face. There's a dead woman as a result of what political permission slip she thought she was given by her political leaders. Yeah, that's very true. It's a really interesting analysis. Let's switch over to the fraud, which is a more comfortable topic. and if somebody had told me that my tax dollars and your tax dollars now were going to these

bottomless pits so people I mean the the nonsense daycare here in Los Angeles where the guy shows up in a Rolls-Royce this locked building with no children it's like I can't even believe what's going on and what's even more astonishing to me is people want to defend anyone in I'm going to attack anyone investigating the fraud. I think that's where it really goes into wacko cuckoo land for me. But the fact that it exists is already crazy enough by the billions

and maybe hundreds of billions. Who was it that said, was it Thomas Sowell? He said, no, it was the guy that worked with, oh, the famous guy. His name starts with a B. He had the hedge fund. Show me the incentive. I'll show you the result. Come on, who's the big investor, Drew?

Not Halliburton. That's the company. Come on. The hedge fund. Warren Buffett. Warren Buffett, yes. So it was one of his men who said, you know, show me the incentive of the result or the outcome. Obviously, when they were handing out money during COVID, you knew damn well people were going to incorporate shell companies to take the $10,000 or whatever it was the government was giving and then close up those companies. It's sure as sugar.

The extent and the scope of it, I don't think anybody could have possibly imagined. But I will pat myself on the back with my short arms because I got a short torso. So I called it and I said they're going to go after Nick Shirley, not just on a personal level, not just on the smear campaign level, trying to like, oh, his parents were involved in a lawsuit, so he must somehow be a fraudster. I knew they were going to go nitpick through his videos and say, oh, he was here at a wrong time. This one actually had kids or this one was closed for another reason because it was the holidays. And they're going to take one element that he actually may have gotten legitimately wrong in the video

to discredit the entire fraud apparatus that he put on blast. They went from all angles. They said, oh, yeah, he was there. You know, here's one school that actually has kids. And you have, like, I don't know, people bringing in their kids the next day to show that it's an open business, whatever. You have other ones saying they're open. They were just closed for whatever the reason. But the reality is whether or not he made certain mistakes, which I'm certain, you know, there's explanations for some of it.

It's systemic fraud that the politicians were playing into. And you understand now why Kamala Harris was tweeting out, you know, endlessly. about increasing Medicaid, they knew who they were pleasing by funding this corrupt institution, this corrupt regime, this corrupt apparatus. They were, you know, wetting the backs of the people who would vote for them. At that point, I thought they were sort of playing to their base. What we know now is they're playing to the fraudsters who launder some of that money back to them through Act Blue, which that's the part.

Again, this is cuckoo stuff, right? Am I misrepresenting what happened? Not as far as I understand. I mean, the act blue stuff in this particular context is a new detail to me, but the act blue money laundering is something that I talked about. I had a village crazy lady on Twitter. That's her name. You know, the act blue and James O'Keefe broke this a long time ago is a money laundering mechanism.

And so you play, you please your demographic, your constituents, through these fraudulent organizations or these fraudulent schemes, they vote you into power, and then they either fund you, finance you, give you future jobs. It's the way the system works. The bottom line, you know, I was pissed off enough when I discovered how much I'm paying in tax at the federal level. And what percentage to that is funding foreign conflict and foreign wars. And then if you're in Minnesota and you are being taxed up the wazoo so that you can literally

fund the economy of a foreign country. The amount of the fraud in Minnesota is basically the GDP of Somalia. And you're supposed to sit there and say, well, it makes me feel virtuous to do it. Our veterans are dying in the streets. Our veterans are homeless. We've got drug addiction galore. We've got our educational institutions are crap. And the amount of money we're paying is not even serving any one of us. It's being siphoned off by way of what is it called when you send money back to your homeland to Somalia. And it's not Somalia per se, any foreign country. And your, your money is being stolen from you. And you're being told to shut up, sit down, keep paying up, because that's what virtuous people would do. Right. Sure is sugar, as a wise man much said.

But the other, the other issue is Elon Musk, as we've got a tweet from him up here, keeps pointing out that this isn't surprising to him. And then again, I saw somebody the other day saying, we're going to take over the house. And our first thing is we're going to indict Elon Musk. I thought, for what? What are you talking about? Drew, it's Lovrenti Baria.

Show me the man. I'll show you the crime. We're well beyond the point of you don't have to commit a crime for them to charge you to indict you. We're at the point right now where we have seen. there is no amount of F you money on earth that you can have when they can kill you or when they can lock you up. All your money on earth is worth nothing when they lock you up and take away your freedom. And they've shown that they would do that with Trump. They've threatened, you know, back before it was politically incorrect to send a naturalized citizens home,

they were talking about doing it to Elon Musk. So there's no end to which they won't go, which is why it's of vital importance that Republicans, even the rhino element of it win succeed in 2026 and 2028 because if the Democrats ever get back into power and the prediction is that they look like they will after the midterms, there will be impeachments of everyone. Even the ones who thought they were playing nice with their enemies like the frog riding on the back of the scorpion, they're going to impeach everyone. And if they ever get the power to convict, they're going to convict everyone. And they're going to try to put people like they manufactured crimes against Trump.

34 felony indictment for the hush money payment putting in quotes they'll go after Elon for something for anything and scrutinize anybody enough you'll find a felony somewhere in there but Elon it'll be extra easy and he should be sweating bullets as well i don't know that it's uh that's a very weird life to world to live in right where where the it's like it's a banana republic stuff i mean it's stuff that we and woody allen did a movie called bananas about this very thing and It's just that we are there. Why? I guess the only thing Republicans can do is win the elections, right?

They're not of a mind to practice, to use similar practices because they are so reprehensible. Well, the thing is, people think retribution somehow means fighting fire with fire, but you can fight. My joke is you've got to fight fire with water, not fire with fire. You know, going after Adam Schiff, Letitia James, James, going. after actual criminals. For what, and I know everyone's going to say, you think they're actual crimes, Eva, because that's your side of the aisle. You can, you can tell when it's a fair process and when it's not. You can tell who the criminals are and who they're not, who are not. And you can tell based on what they go after, you know, what they went after Trump and others

for what they're guilty of themselves. There's a reason why Leticia James knew to look for mortgage fraud, you know, to go after Trump. He was doing it himself. So at some point, you live in reality. And there's actual crime and then there's manufactured crime. All of the Republicans... Well, now, did you see... Hold on. Did you see Carolyn Levitt that I announced that there was some major... Again, I never know what's AI and what isn't.

But what I saw was her announcing a major investigation going all the way back to the Obama administration of sort of a concerted systematic effort to overthrow the government, including, I think, some of the January 6th of. And by the way, I was thinking about how... People want to talk about white supremacy, you forget, no one has pointed out, all you that want to point out white supremacy. None of you have pointed out that today, January 7th, is Cambodian Independence Day from the freaking Khmer Rouge. You should be ashamed of yourself for not mentioning that. And if you would like further examples of the warm embrace of collectivism,

Eva is pointing out some of that in the lawfare. That's the warm embrace. but the Khmer Rouge is the warmest of warm embrace of collectivism. It's where it always goes. But do you want it to say something? Go ahead. I was going to say January 7 to me is, and especially this January 7, is only going to be the five-year statute of limitations on many of the crimes that were committed on January 6,

2021. You know, you say they're announcing a big investigation. How much time do they think they have? Like, they've got three years left of the term. They've got nine months before midterms. They needed to be, you know, pedal to the medal on day one, which is why a lot of people are not blackpilled, but very frustrated. You can't wait until the third year because they will not have control, you know, as of the midterms, if they don't start performing and rally. These things, as you know, as a lawyer, these take a minute for these things to ramp up.

It might have taken this long to ramp things up to the point where they could be done effectively. And I kind of feel like things are happening so fast. they're almost hallucinating. You know, we're Venezuela and Greenland and oil and just so many things happening simultaneously. It's mind-blowing, really, when you really look at it. So what's the black pill all about? Well, you described it. A lot of things are happening at a very fast pace everywhere else, except for within the deep state in America.

That's part and parcel of what everyone who's, you know, paying attention and complaining, is complaining about. Great, you know, things are going fast, bombing Iran. things are going fast, Maduro, things are going fast, Greenland. The deep state in America is what, you know, the Trump base, elected Trump to dismantle. And to move that, you know, they are making movements on the vaccine schedule under RFK, but the deep state under Tulsi-Gabber. That's what the immediate, you know, the temporally urgent situation was.

So it's good, you know, things are moving fast in Ukraine too. that's not what Trump was elected for this time around. And if people get disillusioned and disenfranchised, they're not going to have an effective two more years of the term to do what they need to do. And they needed to do it as of day one, not as of keep waiting. We're doing investigation next year.

You'll have something. To your point, I believe this was Tulsi Gabbard's domain. And according to Karen Leavitt this morning, it was Tulsi Gabbard's investigation that's leading to these indictments and whatnot. And Tulsi is not a lazy. person. She was probably moving as fast as she could. And so let's, I don't know, if you want that to happen, let's stand behind these people who are trying to do this. I don't know. They don't have, they don't have forever to do it. They're going to quickly, a run out of time

and run out of, not say goodwill, but the patience of their base. And they're not patients like people are going to have another January 6th. The patience is that people are going to get disenfranchised, disillusioned, and not show up. And it's always easier for the underdog to to rally the base for the next election. The bottom line is, you know, for the deep state, dismantling the deep state, justice for January 5th, justice for the stolen election. And we're now heading basically into the midterms. And there's been nothing about that except for the assurances from Harmeet Dillon that

don't worry about the statute of limitations because, you know, RICO and conspiracy, you can go past the five years. That's an extra argument that you need to add. That's an extra layer of facts that you need to add to deal with the fact that nothing happened within the five-year statute of limitations for many of the crimes that occurred. So it's nice. There's always a back card. But in law, you don't want to go with the argument that adds more layers of evidence and adds

more layer of argument because you didn't get things done within the statute of limitations on certain crimes. So people's frustration will translate into apathy at the ballot box. And that's going to translate into problems in the future. And I'm hearing, but I'm hearing that the Venezuelan incursion may yield some data on the elections. Yeah, I mean, I've heard it too, and I saw Trump put out a truth post about, you know, not connecting the two, but allowing people to connect the two.

We'll see. I mean, if that's the argument, I would be surprised as to why Biden upped the Maduro bounty to $25 million if there was anything in there that would have revealed that 2020 was stolen in that sense. I mean, my view is that 2020 was objectively stolen, and it was stolen not by way of servers in Germany and Maduro's ghost or no, it was a Hugo Chavez's post. It was stolen by way of the censoring of the Hunter Biden laptop. And it was stolen by mass aggregating of constitutionally invalid ballots. And I unfortunately think that a lot of that other stuff was a bit of a distraction

that invalidated or took the attention away from the legitimate arguments. We'll see. That's not where I would put no stock in that. And I wouldn't bet on that. But if it happens, my goodness, I will be the first to say, yay. well but to your point though i do feel like they're moving on all fronts i i i i feel like people there's a lot of competent people doing a lot of interesting work and i i don't know i i don't feel as pessimistic as you but i may be a i have an optimistic bias so you know no and also you might be focusing on the on different issues i would say even the uh the the you know the action or the military incursion or the enforcement of law against Maduro is a double-edged sword. I mean,

it might turn out very well to be net positive, especially if, you know, the U.S. is going to get the barrels of oil that they're now announcing they're going to get. But it is the, it's the risk of disenfranchising or disillusioning people who wanted America first. And then you have the whole argument as to what's America first. America first doesn't mean America only. But no, look, there's a number of things on which they haven't moved anywhere near as fast. And there's a number of things on which the movement has been backwards and people have gotten very, very frustrated about it, but particularly, give me one example of where you want, give me one, I'm going to let you go, I know you've got to get out of here a certain time, and you can go back

to Bonjino and see what he's saying about the black pillars, but I want you to do two things for me. I want you to tell me one thing where you want them to put their energy to move and then secondly, tell me where we should find you. Oh, okay, well, I'd say the one thing is the deep state, and that's the biggest one. It would be January 6th and who is behind that, what everyone acknowledges the Fed'surrection. Trump issues 1,500 pardons. It's because a grotesque injustice was carried out. Who has been held to account for that? The answer is, not only nobody, Jocelyn Ballantyne, one of the prosecutors who went after Flynn in the first iteration of the deep state attack and went after Enrique Tario and the proud boys in the second iteration is still working at the

DOJ. So that's not progress. That's actually regress. where can well and and so i would say january six the deep state actors christopher ray uh brennan james comy they still haven't refiled against james combe these have not been the successes against the deep state that we that we were expecting that we wanted that need to happen to reshape things before uh you know before 2026 where can people find me on the interwebs vivafri on twitter the vivafri i've been better

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Peter St. Ange is one of my, one of my favorite follows. I think he puts out these great videos. You can follow him at Pro-F-P-F-S-A-R-O-F-S-Age, P-R-O-F-S-Age, O-N-G-E, and Peter-Saint-Age.com and also YouTube at Pro-P-P-P-Ruff-S-J-J. The prof is obviously short for professor. And finally, podcast, Prof-S-S-A-Mj, buzz sprout.com slash share.

Peter, welcome. Thank you for being here. Thanks for having me back on, Your videos always have freaked me out over the years because you have a way of looking at things and I think, oh, he seems right. So let's just start sort of meta, like 30,000 feet view. Are we heading into trouble?

Some people are predicting because silver and copper are moving together. That's a bad sign. and yet Trump keeps pushing, pushing, pushing on the accelerator without causing any inflation, really. What's happening? Yeah, well, I think the dollar is in trouble without a doubt. I think the economy is going to have a blockbuster, 2026. That's not all good because some of that is saving up trouble for the future.

Part of what's making the economy so strong right now is that the Fed is cutting rates. That saves up inflation for the future. So I'm not saying, you know, that everything's fine, but I think if we're looking over the next 12 months anyway, I think the economy is actually going to strengthen. You know, right now we're looking at GDP growth of about 4%. That is one of the highest in our lifetimes. That's a typical growth rate that you see in like developing Asia. That's extremely high. And that's been through the last two quarters, in other words, the past six months. early 25 there was some trouble because when the tariffs came in, right? It's when you have something like a tariff, it's going to hit companies that are importing stuff.

So it'll show up in the stock market as a really negative event, even if it's benefiting the U.S. economy. So that was kind of the story of the first half of last year. But the second half of last year has just been growth absolutely on fire. It's been driven by Fed cuts. the feds flipped over to quantitative easing, which means that they basically go in the basement, type on Excel sheets. They type like a bunch of zeros and then they buy stuff with it. So the shorthand is just money printing. So the Fed just flipped back to QE, which means that now they're going to be dumping money into the economy, making it go even faster than it's been

going at 4%. We've got trillions coming in on AI. There was just a story the other day that the AI real estate investment, so mainly for data centers, that is now higher than office investment, which is kind of mind-blowing. So there are trillions coming into that, not just for the centers, for the chips, for the equipment, for the energy. Trump's been talking about getting back to nukes, getting nuclear energy started up again, safe nukes. And then you've got the reshoring. right so one of the subtexts you know Reagan in the 1980s really went after the Japanese and he put these draconian tariffs and all the free marketers at the time said oh no no you know this is going to destroy America okay what happened well the 1980s were the biggest boom we had

in a generation and Japan so now most of the Japanese cars sold in America are made in America so all these people who are poo-pooing the tariffs and saying it's a pipe dream production's never going to come back. China's so smart. That's not how it works. You've got Korean companies, you have Taiwanese companies, you have Japanese who are moving production over into the U.S. So in an average year, the U.S. economy does about $4 trillion of investment. Trump is talking $6, $8,000 or $10 trillion. All right. So that is absolutely massive. Every trillion of investment is worth about a million American jobs. So you put the Fed, you put the AI, you put the onshoreing, all those companies coming in. And then finally you have deportations. What deportations been doing so far is that you take

an illegal who's doing a job for 10 bucks an hour, he goes home one way or the other, and then now you've got to bring it Americans making 20, 25 an hour. So you put that across the board and there are a ton of jobs coming in the pipeline. Now the story in 2025, One of the media, or the left-wing media's favorite stories, has been the quote-unquote job slowdown. If you trace that against the deportations, so we've gotten rid of about two million people, and that's about maybe one and a half million jobs based on the percent of them who work, so got rid of a million and a half illegal workers. We've gotten rid of several, about 300,000 feds.

The so-called job slowdown is entirely made up of illegals and feds. Other than that, the job market is doing fine. Unemployment just ticked up when from 4.5% have been going there for a long time, went up to 4.6. 4.6 is historically low. But even then, when you dig into the numbers, what's driving this little tiny bump in the unemployment rate is that Americans are coming back into the labor market and they're actually looking for work. Probably the big part of that is, you know, you have situations like in Nebraska, they'll raid a meatpacking factory. they'll get rid of 100 illegals. Now that company's got to advertise the jobs.

It's got to pay a lot more because it's actually got to get legal workers in there. So that's what's changing, you know, with the jobs. So I think across the board, hang on. So I have two questions. It's going to be strong. So I have three questions, really. Three questions out of what you just said. A, true inflation is labor, increase in labor costs, which you're building a case,

that labor is going to show up inflate with increased costs soon, yes, as a tight. is the labor market titans. Number one, that's number one. I mean, unless you struggle with all these. Well, do that first. Because I have another question about the tariffs and whether or not they're functioning like a value-added tax, like a VAT tax almost.

Yeah. Yeah, so fundamentally inflation is money printing. Yeah, this is Milton Friedman's inflation is always never. But that's in the long run. In the short run, you can do things that will impact the inflation rate. So to give an example, regulations typically drive up the cost of things by about 20 or 30%. But the way to look at that is that, you know, you wanted to buy a car, but instead of getting a car, you had to get a car plus all of these stupid regulations

or all these features you didn't want or so on, right? So the end result is that a car costs, you know, 50,000, not 40,000, but that's because it's being bundled with these other things that you didn't want. So, you know, oil prices also, if oil surges really fast, that's going to then translate directly into inflation, but that's a short-term thing. When you zoom out and look in the long-term, it's driven entirely by money. Now, where labor costs go is that, yes, labor costs are driving up costs, you know, if you have to pay your meat packers twice as much, but there's kind of two caveats to them. So one of them is that labor costs for a lot of these low-wage industries tend to be, you know, very low. By the time that you're buying an orange

at the supermarket. Most of that went into, you know, like the farmer sells it for a dollar. You've got the middleman gets it for two. Then the store gets it for four. The store sells it for eight. Everybody in that process has, you know, they have their own costs, their own employees. You have transportation. You have all these things.

By the time you're done with it, it's a relatively small amount that's actually getting doubled when you get rid of the illegals. And also, of course, you know, take something like fruit picking, not all the fruit pickers in America are illegals, right? Some of them are actually legal migrants. A very, very small number of them are actually Americans. So they don't get impacted. What was the other question?

But you know, you know, by the way, by the way, there's a whole thing here in California where they're, before we said that, but where they're allowed to come here and go home. There's a whole provision where if they're not, the U.S., they come in, they pick on a certain part of the season, they go back. And that these are not going to be affected by any of the crackdown. But anyway, yeah, the tariffs and does it function? to slow things down a little bit? Is it improving the debt situation? Is it functioning like a VAT tax? Yeah, and I was going to mention that that temporary worker thing, that's been around since forever.

In the 1950s, it was called the Brasserro program. They'd bring them in, then they'd go home. That's, of course, a lot better than them staying here, but even better might be paying Americans a living wage to do the work. So on tariffs, absolutely. Tariffs act like a sales tax, a value ad. but it's lumpy because it's a sales tax only on things that are important. It's not a sales tax on the things that you're producing locally.

So if you had a tariff and nothing else happened, in other words, if the tariff did not, you know, so Trump is putting the tariffs in for a couple of reasons. One of them is that he's trying to pressure other countries to get rid of their trade barriers. Another thing he's trying to do is what Reagan did in the 80s to try to get companies to produce in America. So if those two things didn't happen, then a tariff would simply be a tax. And so it would be a bad idea. It'd be a tax that discriminatorily hits imports, which is probably fine with a lot of people. But anyway, it would be a tax.

But the thing is that you've got these two other factors here. Right. So Canada, for example, a big reason why Trump kind of went to war with Canada on trade is because Canada has these massive trade barriers to American products. I think it's something like 80 or 100 percent on milk. the Canadian financial system is effectively closed tight to Americans. Not the opposite. There's plenty of Canadian banks here. TD, Bank of Montreal, all these RBC, they all operate all over the U.S., but we can't do it there.

Same deal with Europe, with Japan, of course, with China. So if the tariffs, the tariffs on their own, you know, even the Federal Reserve, which is not a fan of tariffs, they've been estimating about 0.7% in incremental inflation. that's one-time inflation. That's not like in Biden where you had, you know, 3% every single year. So 0.7%. But if those other two things are happening,

so if these other countries are reducing their trade barriers, exactly what's been happening in the trade deals, and if you're moving investment into the U.S., which there's probably been commitments for, I think, around $4 trillion coming in, and, you know, Trump is talking 10. If those two things happen, then that's a very, very good return on your inflation.

dollar. Yeah, and might help the debt, God willing. But I want to skip over the debt talk and get over to fraud. It's another contributor to the debt. Are you as blown away as I am, the magnitude of the fraud and the money laundering that's coming on the heels of it? And then the third level of outrage or sort of insanity and this whole thing is people resisting those looking into the fraud.

Like you're a bad person for investigating fraud. It's unbelievable. Yeah, well, you know, I saw a tweet earlier today, Jesse Kelly. And he was saying that the reason the Democrats are fighting so hard is that if you take away the taxpayer syphens, if you take away the fraud, if you take away the cheating, they're a 20% party. They are not a competitive party. They're like some fringe party, some joke candidate, like the guy with the boot on his head, right? Fundamentally as a party, that's all they got is cheating. So I can understand why they're fighting so hard.

I think I am surprised at the scale of the numbers. You know, when Elon was putting Doge in, my sort of ballpark estimate in the back of my head was maybe 600 billion. At most, you know, we might get up to 800 or a trillion. At this point, I think it's probably closer to one and a half trillion of federal spending that is fraud. That's an interesting number because it's very, very close to what the government collects in income tax. right so if and you know when i say fraud i mean part of it is just straight out you know somali daycares another big chunk of it is that if you go back and look in the 1950s and you look at what percent of americans were on welfare in the 1950s the 1950s the 1950s was not some dystopian hellscape

where people were eating their grandmothers right i mean it was no you know it was a fairly functional time so if you go back and you look at what percent of americans were on welfare back then something like 15 times smaller than it is today, something like 2% versus 30%. In other words, out of the 30-odd percent of Americans who live off the public purse, roughly 2% of them are legit, right? Going by 1950 standards, 2% of them actually deserve it. These are people who have debilitating illnesses. They're paraplegic.

They can't work. Okay, 2%. The other, what is that, 85% is 4%. is functionally fraud. It may not be outright, you know, fake ghost kids in the daycares, but this is vote buying, right? This is Democrats intentionally loosening the standards so they can enroll millions of people onto the gravy train so that ultimately you've got, you know, a very small number of people pulling the wagon that's got just a whole crowd sitting up.

So when you put those two together, when you put the vote buying together with the just straight out fraud, you're talking about a trillion a half. The income tax takes two and a half trillion. So you take a trillion a half, you throw in Trump's $300 billion that he's planning on tariffs. You're darn close. In fact, why not just get rid of the entire income tax? That's what a lot of people are talking about on Twitter right now. You've got a lot of people who are saying, why am I the sucker?

So I'm scrimping and saving. I'm kissing my kids goodbye and going working a 12-hour shift. My kids don't even see me. You know, I got to work the weekend. I'm paying all these taxes. Right. So a lot of people just say, you know what, screw it. And, you know, there's a famous, I can't remember the guy's name, payment and something.

He's a sort of anti-tax activist. And his point is there's a couple tens of thousands of enforcement staff at the IRS. And there's 250 million taxpayers. If people stop paying, they can't do anything about it. So it's, you know, that I think is going to keep gaining theme. There's also the. There's also the laffer curve. They don't stop paying.

They stop working because the working is not worth it because the burden is so high. Yep, I've got a piece coming out in two days talking about that. So there's a study that was done. It was actually co-authored by one of Obama's chief economists, Christina Romer. So it's a study that tries to estimate. So if you tax cigarettes, people are going to smoke less. If you tax work, people are going to work less. And so that's called a deadweight cost in economics.

So she tried to estimate how much that is. Her number, which is consistent with other studies, but I'm citing her because she's Obama. Okay, this is not crazy right-wingers. This is Obama. Her estimate was every dollar collected costs $2 to $3 destroyed through reduced incentives. So people start fewer businesses. They don't work as hard. They don't take on extra shifts because they got a 38% tax rate.

You do the same thing in regulation. do the same thing the same same calculation. Yeah. That's exactly right. So that's crazy. That's crazy. But it occurs to me.

I always was like, why do they, why can't they manage the debt? Why can't they manage the debt? But if you're telling me they only collect $1.5 trillion, the debt is their tax. I mean, the $1.5 trillion is the fraud. And everything else that they want to do is the debt.

So they literally, all their expenses are just piled into the debt because everything else is going to fraud. Yeah, or putting it differently, the entire $38 trillion, soon to be $40 trillion, national debt, is made up of either fraud, things like this, and a nice big chunk of it going to foreign aid, going to Europe and other countries. So, yeah, that debt's not ours. We gave all that away. Well, I pray to God that we, so I will ask you the next question about the debt itself.

Are we going to have an impact on it with all this growth? I mean, it feels to me like, although you're warning us that we're going to be paying for the growth down the line, if we can manage the debt, the deferred payment may not be that great. Yeah. Yeah, the trick with the debt, so for a long time, economists right and left, they said that 100% of GDP was the red line. Okay, that would be about $28 trillion, about $30 trillion today. So that, for decades, that was the red line. And then came along Japan, right? So Japan blew it out of the wall. Japan's at like 280%. In U.S. terms, Japan would have 75 trillion of debt. In U.S. terms, like relative to the size of their economy.

Took them a minute to get out of that. Absolutely. But they haven't imploded. They are crawling. They're, you know, even doing worse than Europe. You know, so younger Japanese are poorer than their parents were. Right. So, I mean, you know, they're not doing great,

but they also haven't exploded. And, you know, the yen is not the reserve currency in the world. So we've got an extra benefit in the fact that foreigners are sort of compelled to use the dollar, sometimes by ships in Venezuela. But for whatever reason, foreigners use the dollar a lot more than foreigners use the yen. So we buy a lot of times. So if Japan can manage 75 trillion, we can probably manage 100. Now, does it all collapse? It eventually does.

the question is how many decades can they keep kicking the can? I think another point that's interesting is that when people talk about the debt blowing up, they usually assume that it's going to be a question of the U.S. cannot pay its debts. But the thing is that something, so something happens much, much earlier than that, which is that you get some enterprising, enterprising, entrepreneurial politician who says, hey, you know what, maybe the American people don't want to pay that debt. So that's what happened in Greece in 2010. So Greece threatened to default on all of its foreign debts.

The reason is because you had a candidate who said, hey, you guys want to stiff all those German bankers. And Greeks said, yes, I'd very much like to do that. So if you went to the American people and you said, you don't be really funny is if we stiffed Wall Street, China, you know, all these countries, Saudi Arabia, all these countries who own our debt, you stiff them, you issue brand new debt, might be 10,000. trillion or so to cover the widows, the orphans, the pension funds, and you just write off that 30 trillion. So that happened, you know, when Greece did that around 2010, at that time, they were paying the debt service payments were actually smaller for them than they were for the U.S. As a percent of GDP. In other words, they were not forced to default back in the European debt crisis. They did it because a politician suggested it, and the Greek voters said that sounds like fun.

Because it does sound like fun. It sounds like fun. It sounds like fun. So I think that's, you know, the number to be concerned about. Is that the horror story you're telling about the dollar? Well, in terms of default, yes. So the dollar is kind of a different issue. You open with the dollar's in trouble. You said the dollar's in trouble. This would be a big trouble for the dollar.

We have been, yeah. So the concern with the dollar is that there's some tipping point where foreigners stop holding dollars. They stopped regarding it as a safe asset. And, you know, we've been putting bricks on the camel's back. So one of the big ones is that the, you know, Fed screwed up during Biden. It had long been this sort of mystique that the Fed was particularly good in inflation. It turns out they're not. The other one was seizing Russian assets, which sounds really random.

But, you know, once Russia invaded Ukraine, the Europeans with U.S. blessings, seized the dollars of the Russian Central Bank. That was a problem because it. that put the whole world on notice that dollars are not as good as gold. Dollars are as good as not pissing off Joe Biden and Donald Trump. And so, you know, what we've seen since then is this sort of race out of dollars into gold. So gold is now a larger holding of central banks than dollars. Now, the problem is that if that accelerates, right, currently it's still, you know, half a percent of percent of you.

Susan, quick, go buy some gold. If that accelerates, then what happens is that there's something like 20 or 30 trillion of dollars sloshing around the rest of the world. If they're not holding those anymore because they feel safe, they come flooding back. We get inflation. That could potentially be 50% or more. Oh, 50. Oh, my God. That would not be good. Oh, it would be massive. It would be massive because, yeah, 20 trillion is roughly how many dollars are running around in the U.S. Eesh. Oof, oh boy. Well, like I told people at the beginning, sometimes Peter's video is freak me out and this is where some of them go and they catch my attention as I flip by them.

Like, what? 50 trillion? Come on. Don't say that. Now I'm going to put the gold, I'm going to put the gold bars in my, I'm going to have to hold them in my pants or something because nobody's going to be safe from anything. So, oh my goodness. Okay. So.

Don't tell them where we're going to put it. That's right. You'll have all kinds of people in your pants. I know. Well, I was sort of thinking that way, but let me see if I've missed anything that we want to talk about here. We didn't really get into regulation. I think the reason that isn't top of my mind, because I live in a state that's so regulated, you can't breathe here. They have your boot on your neck. And so you don't notice when the federal government is reducing regulations because we have 10 regulations for every one from the federal government. bad ones. That's part of, right? Yeah, that's, that's part of the reason why I haven't been that, you know, vocal about tariffs, for example. So tariffs probably have an impact of GDP on

the order of like 10%. Like, like if you got rid of all the tariffs in America, you might boost our economy with something like 10%. If you got rid of the regulations, I mean, it's stunning, like 100%. Okay. Like baristas would make six figures. Babysitter's would make $50 an hour. I mean, regulations are massive. And, you know, you don't see them because what regulations normally do is take things away that you never knew could have existed. Right. They, they, like, strangle things in the crib. They strangle businesses.

They strangle ideas, inventions. But, yeah, regulations are absolutely massive. Trump is doing what he can. Congress, surprisingly, is doing almost nothing. I think the biggest regulation they did was on Cafe Sanders for cars last year, getting rid of some of the global warming crap on cars. Aside from that, they haven't been lifting a finger, probably because they get a lot of donations from,

you know, people don't realize that regulations are lovingly bought by large corporations. And you see this every so often where you have, you know, like Facebook, I mean, just have industry after, AI industry right now is coming out and saying, you know, we should be regulated. And, you know, the media lapsed it up and says, oh, look at these selfless leaders, you know, want to be reined in. no, it's because they write the regulations every single time. Every time that they go to fix health care or they go to fix Wall Street after the 2008 crisis, who do you think writes these laws?

These laws are like 10,000 pages long. The average like congressional staffer is like a 23-year-old who makes $40,000 a year. They don't write it. It's lobbyists who write these things. And so these things are absolute messes, but that also means that it's very hard to get Congress to get rid of them. Lastly, any, I'll ask for a prediction. New York under Mamdani. You got a lot of people leaving. It's going to, I think, go down the road towards Detroit. You know, they're already cracking down on landlords. You know, landlords in New York will often neglect the property because they can't make any money on it, right? So they're just literally operating a loss. Like, they get up in the morning to go lose money. I think a lot of

are going to leave. You've got a lot of abandoned properties. I think right now in New York, which is extremely high rental prices, you have something like 100,000 empty units. Right. And they're empty because of regulations, because you have the socialist government that makes it impossible for a landlord to make any money. I think that's going to explode. I think you have a huge exodus of rich people. I think what's going to happen is, you know, they have this wealth tax that they're floating in California now and they're having access to California. If things in New York get bad, I would be shocked if they didn't start talking wealth tax as well. I mean, you know, these guys watch each other. They inspire each other. So I think there could be a giant sucking sound.

All those people are going to come to Florida. They're going to come to Texas. They're going to bail out of these blue state disasters. And, you know, you can only do so much damage in however long it is, four years. Bill de Blasio, for example, did not kill the city, even though he was pretty close to his bad as mom, Donnie. So I don't think New York is dead. But, It has come a long ways since, you know, when New York elected Rudy Giuliani. It elected, you know, Bloomberg, who's left in many ways, but he's also sent, he's pragmatic. And, you know, between de Blasio and this Joker, you know, I think the future is not bright for New York. It's bright for Miami.

Peter, thank you for being here. Where do you want people to find you? Proph Sinanj on Twitter, X. I put out videos every single weekday. and then I have a weekly column with a watch list of recommended assets over at profsaintantage.com. Thank you for being here. Appreciate it. Always fascinating. Thank you for having me on, Dr. Drew.

You got it. All right. Coming up, we have... We're buying gold, huh? Well, he's making a pretty good case for it. Haley Grace Gomez, there was a rally in the Palisades today. We have a new governor candidate. She may have something to say about that, candidate for governor here, California.

we are going to talk a little more fraud as well with Haley. She specializes in California and all the craziness here, but she's got some other sort of observations as it pertains to UN linked to Medicaid fraud in Ohio. And of course, what's going out in Minneapolis. Back with Haley in just a second. Weight loss and gum loss. The wellness company's got you cover with new products. Drop.

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So what happened in the palestades today? We have a new gubernatorial candidate, yes? Spencer Pratt did announce that he was running for L.A. Mayor today. So it was really exciting. The crowd went. I keep saying, you're right, it's mayor. I was thinking governor for some reason, and I don't know why I got that in my head, but maybe I'm predicting the future there. But yeah, there it is. Spencer Pratt, and he has been quite vocal about the shortfalls of our government. In fact, our government here in California seems to be interested,

and in this city in particular, seems to be doing anything except governing. Yes, it does. And I think that there is a big spotlight on it right now, which is important because it's, definitely needs a cleanup from us Californians. We've seen this for the past years and years or so. Yeah, it's pathetic. What about the notion that the federal government is going to start to put a microscope on the fraud here? And you're hearing people say things like it's worse than Minnesota, it's worse than Ohio. People are fleeing the state, even though we have this picture. I mean, is that picture up where the news and was saying, oh, no, we're growing here in California. Yeah,

yeah, really. Okay. What do you say? You know, Trump did announce that there was going to be a federal investigation. I don't know how that's going to pan out, really. I think everyone on the ground, especially in palisades, every time that I asked about fraud popping up, they all say that it's worse than Minnesota. So we have experienced it for years. I think the national media spotlight is starting to catch up a little bit.

But I was born and raised in L.A. County. I am very familiar with downtown L.A. I've seen Skid Row grow, which is really hard to believe because it's already its own entity in itself, but it's grown over the years. I call it its own little city within downtown L.A. because it is something else. You really don't understand the depths of our problems until you live out in California and then you start to understand, oh, okay, this is really, really bad. Right. And the go-to of our governing officials is to blame the populace. We just need more money from you. And soon we're going to have a well tax. Yeah. Yeah, it's incredible. They seem to want to pour more money. And I think when you look at issues like homelessness, for example, you have, you know, since 2018, the estimated is, I believe, $24 billion since 2019, actually, poured into.

to homelessness. And when you look at Skid Row, it just doesn't add up. Or when you go to San Francisco and you look at the tenderloin, it doesn't add up. You have these people that are constantly going out in the streets, you know, attacking others, attacking local citizens, shooting up in the streets. I was just driving from the Palisades to Pasadena right now. And a homeless man was running down the 110, of course. And so it's just kind of unbelievable to say, that we're going to keep throwing money at this issue and not actually address the crisis, which is that you have a mental health crisis. And these people need help. They don't need, you know, these open-ended. Well, if you want a home, go ahead and take a home and then go trash it

and then go back on the tree. That doesn't make sense. Right. Right. No, you're at we, you put your finger on the issue. But there, but people, most people don't understand there are laws preventing us from bringing these people into treatment. I don't know if you saw that story about the child star on meth. He was out. They brought him in. He didn't want to stay. He smoked meth in treatment and ran back out on the street.

Of course. There has to be a way to motivate people to stay in treatment until their brain heals enough that they can start making rational choices again. And even then, they're going to need to stay in treatment for months to years before we're able to make any progress here. And the idea of giving people that, I don't know this, but, You have an open-air hospital where doctors and nurses are not allowed, number one. And number two, you have that in that open-air hospital, the treatment mechanism is delivered by volunteers and social workers.

And the primary intervention is giving drug addicts drugs. That's the primary intervention. And they're wondering why 100,000 people die. It's just unbelievable. There's a progressive illness that ends in death. I don't care where they get in the drugs. They die. God, it's just so frustrating.

Yeah, I think that there was this notion a few years ago, you know, it's kind of swinging back to normality a little bit, but the notion that these people should be able to live on the streets if they choose to. So, you know, we straight away from calling them homeless people, and instead we called them unhoused people. And you had rallies and support of people sleeping on the streets in their own and in their own and I would go downtown, like, when I went to the rallies in downtown, this summer, I would see people shooting up in front of cops. That to me, it's what you just lose the entire plot. How is it beneficial for them at all to be shooting up, sitting in their own filth, and living that way? I mean, it's not beneficial to the residents that pay taxpayer

dollars, and it's not beneficial to the people that are on the street. That's right. Hey, listen, what I always point out is that so on meth, whiskets, or whatever it might be, they're psychotic, they're delusional, they're running down the street naked, like you say. And if you try to bring them in for treatment, you've been guilty of kidnapping. You are not allowed to touch them unless they say, I'm going to hurt myself or I'm going to hurt somebody else. Gravely disabled does not exist any longer. And if they say five minutes after saying they want to hurt themselves, I'm just kidding, I don't want to anymore, you have to let them go. However, if the same symptom complex was being caused by a different brain disease, meaning frontotemporal damage,

or Lewy body dementia, and you don't hold that person, you are guilty of patient abuse. You actually committed a crime. If you don't bring that person into treatment. But if the same symptoms are caused by meth addiction or schizophrenia, you're not allowed to get near them. Yeah, I completely agree. It's a disservice to them. And I think that, you know, Michael Schellenberger a few years ago, he wrote his amazing book, and he really ramped up on, you know, the idea of having a state.

funded property where people are, you know, admitted into the hospital and having to go through proper treatment instead of just letting them loose. And that unfortunately didn't go. San Francisco is what you're talking about. You can put that up, Caleb, San Francisco. Yeah. Yeah, I walked, I walked the Skid Row with, with Michael. And, you know, it's just obvious. It's funny, I came back. Even I didn't realize how much it was just all drug addiction. It's all drug addiction except for maybe 5% serious mental illness and then another 10% of young male sociopaths. You see those young males with skateboards and backpacks. Those are anarchist sociopaths and we certainly should not be listening to those assholes.

Because they are interested in hurting people. They're psychopath. They're sociopaths. And you know who I'm talking about? You've seen those. They write on their tense and stuff, slogans and nonsense. Yeah, those are the really, those are the day. people. And those are also the ones fomenting all the action at the council meetings and whatnot.

They should not listen to these people. But all right, let's get past that. Let's talk a little more about fraud and about, you know, what you guys are reporting on at the daily caller. Yeah, we picked up some fraud stuff. I mean, obviously it was a big spotlight after Nick Shirley dropped his viral video. And I think everyone kind of hammered in on what type of fraud is going on for taxpayer dollars. The first piece that we really hit on was this Tom Emmer piece where Minnesotans were heard begging years before, almost over a decade ago, for the GOP to kind of have a stance on Somalis within the state.

They were basically advocating at the time that, you know, it was too much. There was not enough room for a simulation, and it was impacting the, state in the city at a really high rate and they could see that it was going to go a bad way. Obviously now with the exposure of what's happening in Minnesota, they were correct. They were on spot. And, you know, do you live in Pasadena? I live in Orange County now. I moved out of L.A. County a few years ago, my sanity.

So we spend time and we live with this. I'm talking to now from Pasadena, but we spend a lot of time in Orange County. and if you drive back and forth, once you cross that, what should we call that Mason-Dixon line into Orange County. Yeah, even when you're doing orange curtain, when you drive down that five, you just got to go, oh my God, I can take a deep breath here. How is it that you can't even get, I mean, everything looks different. You literally, it's like going into cartoon land. You know, it's Oz, whatever. It's possible in California to have functioning government that looks after things that people need.

Just not possible in L.A. County. The cars change everything. No, everything completely changes. There's like a viral video on Instagram where this guy literally does that same exact expression of like, oh my gosh, there's a nice area around here. There's a nice Taco Bell. Like everything is almost nicer. There's no homeless people. There's less homeless people.

But yeah, it is a. massive difference. I mean, I was born and raised in Pasadena, Altadena area, and I grew up here my entire life. I love, I used to love L.A. And every time that I come back, I'm just astonished because it's such a difference. I didn't realize how big of a difference it was until I moved out. And I was like, oh, this is what California should be. This is how we should actually have the entire state be like. And not to say that it's like, should be right. I got news for you. it used to be like that. The whole state did used to be like that.

That's why everyone came here and they ruined it. They just destroyed it. Yeah, I think these policies that have been put in place. And, you know, a lot of the times you have policies that are put in place years ago. And then you don't see the impact of them until years later. So you have like the, there was one mental health policy that was put in place where they go through. It was in 2018. or so. And then, you know, you see the effects later on and now cops are starting to see the

effects today where they, these people go through a program. It's a mental health diversion program. That's what it's called. And they basically get their records cleaned if they plead mental health and the judges are almost required to sign them off for mental health. And mental health for them could be anything, drug addiction, substance addiction. And then you have these offenders go out. and repeat offenses. And sometimes they end up killing people. And so, you know, it's kind of crazy that you have these policies that just take a little bit longer in the state to kind of really see the effect of. Yeah, there are many, many, many such policies and regulations.

I don't know if you heard the story about one of the one of the contributing factors to the Palisades fire was the firemen apparently were told to stand down in terms of their going back over. the smoldering fire because there were some rare plants at risk that they might have trample or something. Did you hear this story? Yes, I did. I think Spencer Pratt actually broke the story as well. He's been breaking everything on the Palisade story. So it's actually insane. I mean, it makes sense for why he's running for mayor now. But yeah, the firefighters, I think were really restricted. There was also the debate of whether it was not or whether it was on state side versus local city side. And of course, you had the administration saying,

no, it wasn't on state side at first. And then, you know, they came back and pushed back. And it's just this whole fight. And I think at the end of the day, you know, coming from the Palisades rally, people just want accountability. That's all they want. They want some type of accountability from their leadership and they deserve it.

They lost a lot of people lost everything in these fires. Yeah, yeah. Accountability. And they have all this qualified immunity so they don't give a shit. They don't care. But yes, they want to. accountability. And what they really don't, what they really want, I think, is governance. They want a governing body that governs for on behalf of the populace, not on behalf of some notions or some

rare plant about to represent the people for God's sakes. Yeah, I think. You know what I'm thinking, I hear in the French all the time, we're saying, at least there's one politician in France, always saying the people are sovereign, the people are sovereign. It's the sovereignty of the people that needs to be reestablished in this state. It really does. Yeah, it was interesting to hear because I think a lot of people, what I've always been told is that you don't really care about politics, especially in California, until it actually affects you. So I could talk my face blue about homelessness, but unless it affects you, you're really not going to care. Unless you're living downtown L.A., you're really not going to care. And so I think these fires really affected two different pockets of people. You know, Altadina is more. middle class, you kind of have a difference. Palisades is also different. I think a lot of people judge it because it's high income. And so they kind of wrote it off at first as, oh, these rich people just got their houses

burned. They can rebuild because they have the money to. But that's not the keys is that, you know, there are high income people from Palisades, but there's that mix. You go on. Keep finish that up. Yeah. There's a mix.

And there's also, but the other thing is the, the incompetence of government. This is the point. just because they have money doesn't mean they can rebuild. The government is incompetent, and the Coastal Commission is overly, has overreach. And that's it. Everybody's affected by that, rich and poor. Yeah. And I think that was their point today is that, you know, despite tax brackets, they're paying taxes.

And so they want to know that their leaders are going to come for them when they're in a crisis. And that was the bare minimum, was just at least someone coming and stepping up, Basically, you had counsel woman Tracy Park was a big advocate out there because she was really there on day one, helping everyone, trying to assess everything. But you had a lot of call-ups of Newsom and Bass because they haven't shown their faces. What they've done is gone on social media or done photo ops. And they've kind of put themselves on the sideline saying everything's going to be fine. You know, we're doing all this work. Look at all the permits that we're approving.

Look at how fast we're moving. And in reality, it's. less than 4% for both, like, both areas combined. There's about 16,000 homes and spaces that were burned down. And about 500 are under construction right now. So I don't think that is an... It's predictable. And predictable.

That's the other thing. It's so predictable in this town. So, Haley, other than X, where do you want people to look for you? X is a perfect way. I also have my byline at Daily Collar, which is just under Haley Gomez. If you look up Haley Gomas's daily caller, I should pop up. And what's coming up for your byline? All my stories.

So all my written articles, most of the X-step is going to be videos and our breaking stuff. All of my written pieces are going to be with Daily Collar. And we have a lot more coming up since. Anything in your crosshair is that you can share with us? I don't want to blow the impact from the daily caller. but what's in your, what's in your craw? What are you going after? We're definitely going to be scoping out California a lot more since I'm down on the ground here.

Have a lot more investigations to do with fraud, with a lot of hot topics like homelessness. I'm going to be keeping my eye on and my eyes too. So it should be coming up. Well, I hope you come back here when those stories break. But the homelessness thing, believe me, I've been yelling about, for 15 years, and we have to change the laws. We have to change the laws, and we have to expand psychiatric care in this state and increase the number of psychiatrists, and we have to be able to treat people with brain diseases

and not privilege block and insight by the law. We've privileged the brain disorder in the law, if it's caused by certain illnesses, not others, which is insane. Haley, thank you for bringing with us, and we hope to look forward to talking to you as the fraud investigations go, especially. Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate it. You got it. Check it out on the Daily Caller and also Haley G. Gomez on X. Let us look at what's coming up. We've got Dr. McCullough coming in here tomorrow, I believe.

Jeffrey Tucker making a command performance. I haven't seen Jeff in a while, but I can't wait to hear what he's thinking these days. Kira Davis is going to sit in for me while we're out of town. We have Stephanie Van Wants to come back. I want her to come in before that. Pira Davis? Yeah. Maybe she can come in on, yeah, she can come in the week. Well, we're leaving that week. So it's hard.

Maybe she's come in. We can do a little promo, like a pre- co-host. Yeah, pre sort of. Thought we tried something new. So people can understand who she is and what she's all about. She should have a good job. They block the airspace into the Caribbean, you know.

They have blocked the airspace? In case they do. If they don't, we get stuck down there? If they don't, we'll be down there. We may never come back. Kira might have to do your show. I will need to bring equipment down there to do actual friends anyway. I have to do actual friends.

I can bring a camera on the mic. That's no big deal. And by the way, check out the actual friends podcast and streaming show. I think you'll not YouTube channel. I think it's under. Where do we? I got to know where is YouTube. It's a podcast as well, but the YouTube channel is.

The video is fun. It's me and Dave Rubin and Jillian Michaels. Yeah, they can get viewers over there, but we can. I just, I want to, you know, tell everybody, we have a great fan. fan base over at YouTube. You know, it's like 150 people over there. But today we had like 6,000 people watching the show and that's a good day for us. But we have a big conversation over on Rumble. People don't really talk that much on X, but yeah, I'm just still really wondering what's up with YouTube. And I just want anybody who's watching it to reach out and say,

hey, we love the show. Why don't you tell more people about it, YouTube? Please. telling people, Kira's coming in on the 13th. It is already booked. All right. So, Caleb, if I, anything you want to bring up before I close out? Nope, except that a message to Emily, let's get Trisha Paitis booked because he's saying she might be running for Congress. And literally anyone would be better than the current thing.

So I'm Trisha 2026. Are you going to call her? Caleb, call her. Yeah, we'll get her. Set it up. What were you highlighting on that article about her running for Congress? She was saying, now, of course, literally anything that Trisha says is going to get turned into a news article. And so the article is about, she probably just randomly said this on a TikTok or something.

But she's saying her campaign slogan was California could be good, which is true. It could be. Maybe it's a good slogan. I love her. And she's, yeah, well, she's, I like her too. She's so young. She's never lived in a good California. You know what I mean?

Oh, yeah. So she wouldn't, she can see it even as someone who's never seen it. Jesus. Good for her. They laughed. California could be good. They laughed at Schwarzenegger and they laughed at Trump and I'm sure they're laughing at Spencer. We'll see what these people can do.

You know what about it? It's a big popularity contest. You know what I mean? And you have to have money to put behind it. That's why people have put the money behind it because they've got the name recognition already. All right. We'll leave it at that. Thank you all for being here.

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