Ask Dr. Drew - Tim Young: National Guard Finally Cleaning Up DC Crime, Angering TDS Sufferers & “Clown” Mayor w/ Alex Marlow + Kevin Sabet on Trump’s Marijuana Reclassification – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 520

Episode Date: August 17, 2025

“How violent is DC?” asks Tim Young. “958 carjackings in 2023… 77% involved guns. The city needed Trump to step in to fix it.” The comedian and author says he was once robbed a gunpoint in the US capitol. “DC’s clown mayor is a mess after Trump said he was taking over the policing of the city,” he says. “The fools of the city keep electing her to continue destroying it.” Kevin Sabet, PhD, is President/CEO of Smart Approaches to Marijuana, founded with Patrick Kennedy and David Frum. He advised three U.S. presidential administrations and is an assistant professor with over 20 years in drug policy research. Follow at https://x.com/KevinSabet Tim Young is a Heritage Media Fellow, comedian, host, and speaker. He comments on cultural and political issues, often critiquing media narratives and political hypocrisy. Follow at https://x.com/TimRunsHisMouth Alex Marlow is Editor-in-Chief of Breitbart News, starting as Andrew Breitbart’s first employee. A national talk radio host and podcaster, he was named in Forbes’s 30 Under 30 and featured on Time and Newsweek covers. Follow at https://x.com/alexmarlow 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 Find out more about the brands that make this show possible and get special discounts on Dr. Drew's favorite products at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/sponsors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/fatty15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/paleovalley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • VSHREDMD – Formulated by Dr. Drew: The Science of Cellular Health + World-Class Training Programs, Premium Content, and 1-1 Training with Certified V Shred Coaches! More at https://drdrew.com/vshredmd • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twc.health/drew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠) and Susan Pinsky (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/firstladyoflov⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠e⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All right, we're going to start off a little bit on cannabis. President Trump is reconsidering reclassifying the medication, the substance. Kevin Sabat is a president of CEO of Smart Approaches to Marijuana. He with Patrick Kennedy, has advised multiple presidential administrations. You can find Kevin at Kevin Sabet, S-A-B-E-T-on-X. Tim Young then comes in from the Heritage. He's a Heritage Foundation Media Fellow, host, speaker, talks on cultural issues.

You can find him at Tim runs his mouth on X. And then finally we have Alex Marlowe, the editor-in-chief of Breitbart News. Got a lot to talk about. He's a national talk show host and podcaster named for Forbes 30 under 30. You can find Alex at Alex Marla, M-A-R-L-O-E-W.

We've got a lot to talk about with each of our guests today, including you saw that video with Jennifer Welsh telling you you should not be going to any ethnic restaurants. We'll talk about that more right after this. Our laws, as it pertain to substances, are draconian and bizarre. The psychopaths start this.

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Dr.drew.com slash v-shredmdmd for 10% off. Again, that is Dr.drew.com slash v-shredd-md. All right, let's get Kevin Sabette in here. He was, I thought it was a good time to bring Kevin in. It's always a good time to talk to him. But Donald Trump brought the issue of reclassification of cannabis up at a press conference, and I thought I'd be time to get Kevin's point of view on all that. Kevin, welcome, as always. First of all, tell people about smart approaches to cannabis. Yeah, so we started Sam. I've served in three different White House administrations, and so Patrick Kennedy, David Frum, and others, along with a scientific group of about 15 researchers from around the country, started Sam to raise awareness about America's

most misunderstood drug. People don't get that it's so much stronger than it used to be. It's not Woodstock weed. It's really turned into Wall Street weed with a small number of people wanting to make a lot of money off of heavy use. So we're trying to raise awareness about that. Yeah, there's no longer, I had seen addiction to cannabis over the years, but the high concentrations is making that even more common. It's interesting. People are more likely to get addicted and move on to another drug. Back in the day, they just kind of move on to something else. Now they just stay with the weed. The other thing is something I doubted for years, which is now is not at all controversial, it's absolutely axiomatic, which is that cannabis is causing particularly

manic psychotic episodes, if not schizophrenia, it's common now. And it's very common. It's, I mean, it's the number one drug more than methamphetamine tied to psychosis schizophrenia. Now, when you look at the literature, there was just a big paper Canadian researchers, something like a 241-fold increase in your likelihood of schizophrenia. I mean, these are, We've never seen these before with any other drug. And so there's just so much misperiscretion conception. Then the other thing I'm seeing is over the age of 65, people are developing these what they're calling overdoses, but they're actually anti-coalergic deliriums.

For why that's happening, I have no idea. But again, it's that it must be spilling over in some way in the older brain because, again, so, so, so powerful. But be that as it may, it does have some medical applications. is there are people that are benefited from it. You know how I've always felt, Kevin, there's no such thing as a good drug and a bad drug. There's just how people relate to them

and how people get in trouble or how people get therapeutic response. So what do you do with the reclassification conversation? Well, look, of course, there's our medicinal components of marijuana, just like there are other plants, and opium, coca, you know, so, but, and we have FDA-approved drugs based on marijuana. Nobody has a problem with that.

The issue with the reclassification is, it's actually very little to do with medicine, very little to do with research, but a lot to do with money. It would allow a huge tax break for the marijuana industry because they could do what they call the 280E repeal, which would allow them to deduct business expenses. So if they're dealing with marijuana in these states, they can start advertising the heck out of it, as if it needs more advertising, and make a lot more money. So that's why this sort of small wing and the Republican Party has become very vocal, the sort of interest, and they're all tied to marijuana. I mean, Susie Wiles, the White House Chief of Staff, has a son-in-law in the marijuana industry,

one of her best clients as the biggest medical marijuana owner in the eastern of the Mississippi. There are big moneyed interests that are urging President Trump. I think, thankfully, most of the White House officials that are looking at this don't want him to do it. We'll obviously see what happens. And this is put in his lap by former President Biden, who saw rescheduling as a compromise. He didn't want to legalize it, but his people said, listen, if you want to get reelected, you better do something on this. This is popular among young people.

So they thought rescheduling would be a compromise. Obviously, events have changed over the last two years since that happened, and now it's in President Trump's lap. What do you think he's going to do? It's a good question. I think, you know, I think that's a million dollar question. But, you know, look, at the end of the day, what it would do was, would not make our country safer, certainly wouldn't make our country healthier, not because it would be legalized, because it actually wouldn't be legalized if you reschedule,

but because it would do the two things. One is the tax break, so it's supercharged the PR. But the other thing is, you can just imagine the headlines now, Drew, you know, marijuana downgraded. I mean, the average person doesn't know what that means. It doesn't mean it's some sort of technical reclassification, which is really what it is. The average person would think, well, the government thinks marijuana is less harmful than it ever was, even though it's more harmful than it ever was. So who knows? There are, again, very powerful interests urging him to do this.

I hope he doesn't do it. Yeah, it's interesting. I always thought naively, I guess, that if we just, you know, did whatever we're going to do with cannabis, legalize it or decriminalize or whatever we're going to do, then we could start to have rational conversations about it because all the irrational energy was around the legal situation. Right. And I've been proven to be wrong, particularly in the state of California.

where, you know, you have to ask, you know, who you're going to believe, the cannabis lobby, or you're lying eyes. And the cannabis lobby are the ones that get the attention. They've got the cultural sort of zeitgeist, and we in medicine are seeing all these terrible things. You know, the one thing, the other bad reaction that is so common, and it drives me crazy when I see these headlines to go, rare cannabis side effect on the rise, which is the hyperemesis. Hyperesis is, if you're doing dabs, you're having hyperamysis. It's just almost that simple. At least heartburn. Uncontrollable vomiting.

It's so common. And it's not even uncontrollable. It's just vomiting, sort of spontaneous, repeated vomiting. And I see these people all the time getting multi-million dollar workups for, and actually getting surgeries, getting their gallbladder out, getting, you know, higher. It'll hernia is treated aggressively. And it's all cannabis. And they never tell their doctor or the doctor isn't aware what the cannabis is doing.

Yeah, no, it's because it's a good. The legalization actually ushered in this completely new level of drug that we never had before. Not that what we had before was good, but we never had 99% THC dabs. We never had the waxes. We never had the gummies, the edibles, the tonics, the elixers, the suppositories. I mean, this is not, this was not part. But when we legitimize it, normalize it, and now you have people like Mike Tyson who are trying to get in the presidency ear. But, of course, he has a business interest.

Almost everybody who wants this to happen has a major business interest. And actually, I'm challenging, Mike Tyson's been so vocal. I would never challenge him in the boxing ring, but maybe I could take him in a debate. So we are challenging him openly to a debate by the Daily Caller would host. And Mike, if you're listening, go on our Twitter, Washington, D.C. in a week or two, let's do it. because he's been the most vocal person on this, you know, urging President Trump, but I hope he doesn't listen to him. I wish we had some way of testing.

We don't. Of who's going to get addicted, who's going to have hypermises, who's going to get psychotic, then it would be a much more sort of manageable substance, right? But no other drug. Yeah, it's so unpredictable. It's very unpredictable. And it can be really, it can really sneak up on people. And no, herb green, the vomiting is not normal, I assure you.

We've seen it. We've had a fan, we had a, well, we can talk about Paulina. You mentioned Paulina here who was recovering from cannabis addiction. She had hyper-emesis for a year, vomited all over our house. She ruined a really nice car. Yeah, never once associated with the cannabis, of course, until she got sober and then was like, oh, my God, they treated me for all these different things. Right.

She had a lot of, a lot of experimentation on why she was throwing. And nobody ever said, would you, hey, look at the weed here, why don't we? Right. I mean, and you're Dr. Drew. You're like the guy that, I mean, so imagine the average American who has not read this thinks it's about Woodstock wheat, 3% THC in 1965, 5% in 1980. We sort of gradually became a better agriculturalist with regard. But something happened when we legalized it, you know, and for purported medical. I mean, we also know that most of the medical, let's just be honest, most of the medical is a joke.

it's a hang nail or headache you can get a card if you have a pulse you say that you slept less than eight hours that's insomnia and all of a sudden you're getting a card now there aren't I'm not saying there aren't legitimate uses of the components for medicine of course I know I'm going to get a lot of

eight mail about that there are and frankly you could go to town you have a terminal illness and this helps you with maybe you're nausea for some of the drugs you're taking I can care less if you're taking meth yeah please take it please take it if you want but the reality is for the vast majority of people, unfortunately.

And they have these, you know, it's like 1% of doctors in California are the ones that are recommending, you know, 90% of the recommendations. So this is a, this is a money job. And they've gone to Florida. They've gotten the president's ear on this. And we're really hoping he does the right thing and listens to really everybody else, other than the money people who are telling him to do this. It's, what was the actor's name?

The actor was, breaking in his name right now. But he actually had the most honest appraisal of the medical cannabis that he was getting prescribed. He went in and said, yes, I have a cannabis deficiency. That's my problem. I need more cannabis. That's my medical problem. Cannabis deficiency. Listen, that's honest.

We're right. Well, it reminds me of the kid, you know, when I give some of these lectures, the kid that tells me, you know, Kevin, marijuana addiction is not a real thing because they're on Reddit and they read all the propaganda from the legalizers. and I say, well, how do you know it's not a real thing? And he said, because I know I'm so experienced, I use marijuana every single day. I know that it's not a real thing to be addicted. Right.

And it's like, okay. Right, I could stop. I just don't want to stop. But, you know, it's the, you know, I, you know, I, I'm a freedom fighter at heart. And I just, I just, I wish we could have more rational conversations about this. I mean, I think everyone understands alcohol is a problem for some people and not for others. Cannabis is a problem for some people and not for others.

And, you know, the question is, you know, maybe we, what if we could control the concentration? Cannabis, Kevin, would you be a little more in favor of reclassifying that then? Well, listen, we're trying to do that in the states. I mean, it's not like we're, you know, sort of, you know, ignoring the realities of dozens of states that have gone this way.

But, you know, the marijuana industry is so strong. They say, we want to be regulated and legal and legitimate. the minute the minute that they are that, they don't want to be regulated. What business wants to be regulated? Nobody wants to be regulated. So when you say that you want, you know, potency restrictions, like, do you really need 70% potent? I mean, it's just, there's no need for it. Do you really need kid-friendly packaging? Do you really need to be less than 500 feet from a school? There are reasonable restrictions, but the lobby is so powerful that it's very difficult to do that. And, you know, people bring up alcohol a lot and sort of, you know,

well, alcohol is legal. Why wouldn't we do this with marijuana? And why wouldn't we be consistent? And, you know, alcohol isn't legal because it's good for you. Nobody says, I wish more people drink. You know, no, you know, nobody says if only more kids of, you know, if my family members, if only more of them drank, we'd be better off. Nobody says that. It's legal because it's been culturally accepted for 5,000 years. We're stuck with it. And unfortunately, it's a little bit to our peril. It's like the number one drug for crime, the number one drug for, talk about, you know, disproportionate incarceration and arrest. It hurts the lower class communities disenfranchised

much more than other communities. So it's a very terrible drug in that way. But if your headlights are broken, you don't break your tail lights just to be consistent. No. But I want to shit on alcohol more. Alcohol, it's the only drug that's carcinogenic. It's carcinogenic to almost every tissue in your body.

It is the only drug from which the withdrawal can easily be fatal. It is, in particular in young, adults and teens, every adverse health outcome you can name involves alcohol. And as you said, in terms of the penitentiary system and all, and the people on the lower end of the socioeconomic spectrum get disproportionately affected by that drug. But Kevin, I got to wrap this up. Thank you for coming in.

We'll see what President Trump does. And maybe I'll talk to you again then. Thanks for having me. Take care. You got it. Check out Sam, smart approaches to marijuana, as well as Kevin Sabett, on X. Let me see if I have any of his stuff here. Okay, he's got a bunch of stuff. So learn about sam.org, Kevin Sabette.com, S-B-E-T, Kevin Sabat on X. Learn about Sam, S-A-M-S-A-Mart

to marijuana. Learn about Sam on X. And his book from 2021 smokescreen. All right. That's now, is Tim standing by, Caleb? He's here. We're going to get our next guest in here. All right, Tim Young. You follow Tim on Tim runs his mouth. Hang on him. made you more info about Tim. I'm anxious to talk to this. So much we have to get into. Particularly a podcaster who says that any Caucasian, I guess people with light skin who are Trump voters

or in any way enthused by the Trump administration should not be allowed to eat at an ethnic restaurant. Let's see. Yeah, we got a lot of talking about. Bring Tim Young in. Tim, welcome. Hey, thanks for having me. What a great topic today for this too, man.

I'm excited to get into why I shouldn't be allowed to eat in Mexican restaurants. Well, you know, how dare you? By the way, what if the Hispanic voters run them? What if it's a Maha or Maga that runs the Mexican restaurant? What did we do then? They have to leave. And also, when did we segregating Asian people from white people? Because doesn't the left typically loop in all Asian people with white people now?

Because I guess the point is So what was her point? That's the other thing I found bizarre And by the way, who was she? Is she on Bravo or something? Or who is this woman? Jennifer Will. Look, I don't know her, I got to say.

I don't have that deep of a knowledge of, I'm sure some of my female friends would know who she was. But I want to know like does she, and you got to pull up a picture of her because who did her plastic surgery? I mean, whoever did her nose. Oh, come on. No, no, let's not go there.

Let's not do that. Let's not do that. Let's stay with the fact. come on audacity to walk into a Mexican restaurant here it is here it is a Chinese restaurant

I know Caleb Clay it back play it back because at the beginning she starts with how dare they that's like that's what my

it sounds like some 70 year old you know like Mrs. Howell says that how dare you white people that triple trumped that have the nerve

in the audacity to walk into a Mexican restaurant a Chinese restaurant, an Indian restaurant, go to perhaps their gay hairdresser. I don't think you should be able to enjoy anything but cracker barrel. So I'm trying to follow her logic. That's what you think too, Tim?

You're in that zone? You know, I texted my gay hairdresser before this, and I said, I'm sorry, we're going to have to break it off. So I'm wearing a hat. I think your gay hairdresser should be restricted. from his income. Or her. It could be a gay female. I don't know. I don't know what she's talking about. So what do you imagine got her going? That's what I was trying to figure out. Is she referencing immigration issues? Is she referencing the trumped arrangement that he's a racist and anyone that's

with him is a racist? What do you think is in her head? She probably is one of those few people who actually takes the talking points from the view and runs with it. So it's probably all the above. It's everything you can think of. She thinks people are being snatched out of their houses and thrown into concentration camps on the way out of the country. Again, I don't know where this logic comes from. And she really thought it up, but she thought this through when she said with people who triple trumped. I guess I sextupled Trump because I'm for him in the primaries as well.

Oh, wow. Look at you. And so she means that the 16, 20, and 24 voters. So only the consistent. So I think what's, again, I'm trying to read her logic. So what's embedded in that statement is, hasn't he done enough harm? Hasn't he revealed himself to you people? Don't you understand that he is racist the way we always thought? And therefore, you should restrict your business and your withhold money from people of other races, which is kind of, you should punish them? Yeah, it seems like she wants to punish all minorities as well, because, I mean, that's over half of their business, probably, in most areas, I would think, comes from Trump voters.

I mean, it's half the country, so it's safe to assume in a lot of places, especially red states. So she wants, I think she wants minority businesses, you know, on the government, on the government handout list because they can't stay open without their Republican money. Right. So it's a, it's a bid to, what does Madami say, capture the means of production? It's a bid for that. Oh, yeah. Totally normal. Go ahead. Oh, I was just going to say, I just don't know where people are logically that go off like this.

You know, I just think that these are, it seems to be the same demographic, though. It's these single older women who I think want to fight the system and there's no real system to fight because things are good here. So they point fingers at Trump and just make things up. Well, because I really do want to understand. everybody and it's it's so the whole trumped arrangement to me is so odd it's odd but i i have an intellectual understanding of it i i was interviewing a psychologist here recently who kept saying you have no idea how narcissists are triggered by other narcissists particularly more sort of flamboyant narcissists or the and you know narcissism is quite prevalent right now right it's in it's almost

all of us have narcissistic traits now and some people more so and i don't think of these things, by the way, when I use psychological terms, I don't think of them as good or bad or pejorative. I just think of that as descriptive and be very careful. I keep warning people about this. I'm going to tell you, I'm going to warn you, Tim, which is be very careful when you describe a leader through the prism of psychology because sometimes people with some psychopathology make the best leaders. I mean, Teddy Roosevelt was narcissistic as hell. He was manic as hell. my favorite presidents. Lincoln had a severe depressive disorder, also my favorite, one of my favorite presidents. So, so, you know, we don't know what the human circumstances are that are best

for a particular moment in history. But the current president, his qualities, I'll call them narcissistic, and I don't mean that pejoratively, they work for him, seem to trigger other people with those qualities profoundly. Like, I don't know if you've heard Jimmy Kimmel the other day talking of Sarah Silverman, he said he wants to move to Italy, he's planning to move Italy or preparing to move to Italy, and that things are so much worse than he ever imagined him. And I would like to know what, other than how he's feeling,

which is the narcissistic reaction, what exactly would he say is so bad? They don't have a response for it. But, you know, we're being conditioned for this. I went through a breakup a couple of months ago. And as soon as I did that, my reels on Instagram were all how to deal with a narcissist, how to deal with XYZ personality disorder.

And literally, I was on bikini girls before that. And as soon as I'm not making this up, when you're scrolling through it, suddenly they make you a psychologist or they make you believe that you understand what's going on in the world and what's going on with your partner. And it's very odd that that's what's getting fed to people. And I think a lot of folks think that there's suddenly some sort of an expert on this too. And they think that they're diagnosing things. And I think it gets them more enraged and more fearful and more, you know, just emotional,

not just to stay on the platform. but of everything that is happening in a very mundane, okay, life. So, okay, there's a lot packed into what you said there. So, from your perspective, what could they be complaining about? Nothing. Things are sort of okay, right? It's just how he makes them feel. And then, but then ultimately, isn't how we feel really what the press is feeding us? You said the algorithm is feeding you something.

But then you've got the mainstream media feeding us stuff as well. So if you're liking a post from the view, which I'm sure that nice lady likes many posts from the viewer, or posts from MSNBC and the crazy things that they say over on MSNBC, the outrageous things that they have the claims that they make, your algorithm is going to read that and it's going to add exclamation points to it. And so you are not just going to believe that, you're going to start finding it. And I think you dig deeper and deeper in, and suddenly you believe you're an expert on all the evil in the world that does not exist. and it seems like one of the fears that he has stoked in people with TDS is this he's an oligarch or he only supports oligarchs and he's a he's a authoritarian you know it's interesting I gave a lecture in a high school about 12 14 years ago and it was the last high school lecture I ever gave because they pulled me aside afterwards said hey the kids didn't like this you were too authoritarian I was like what are you talking about I'm I, first of all, I am a authority in the topic I was discussing. If I'm not authority, how would I deliver this? It was very confusing to me, but those people are now in their 30s and are early approaching that sort of age. And they have a real thing with something to do with authoritarianism.

People who lead, make decisions, seem to have authority in their personality construct. that turns them off in some way and scares them, I guess. And I'm wondering, you know, this whole move to make D.C. safer. I'm imagining in their head that becomes, aha, see, he's going to be coming into my house next. Yeah, and the idea that he's snatching people up, people are being disappeared as one of their big talking points and saying. Again, as someone who's been robbed at gunpoint in Washington, D.C., you won't see me out there singing songs. They're literally out singing songs. I think they took this little light of mind and turned it into Trump's not going to take over D.C. or something like that, to ignore crime numbers and believe that him coming in to actually stop crime as the crime rate, the murder rate is pretty much up.

You know, I don't understand how people can be outraged that Donald Trump wants to clean up a city that has degraded and is there are parts of the city. I guarantee where most of those protesters will not go at night. We'll not go out walking. And not only that, here's a, that data up there is comparing D.C. crime to other major metropolitan areas. And you see how much more severe it is there. There it is. There's the red bar is D.C. But there are plenty of other cities that need help.

And the comedy for me, Tim, is when I see some of the, some of the, who did I see? I forget who it was AOC or somebody. Or it was the congresswoman that, where is the, funky wigs from South Central Los Angeles Adam calls her Maxine Waters Maxine Waters

Maxine Waters was just like they're coming for your town next and I thought to myself please please come to our town please come to Los Angeles it's a shit show come to San Francisco please please come to Seattle

for God's sakes will you please come which is to me I worry about myself I keep thinking am I missing something because we have to be careful we have to be careful. I was also a, I was a sort of a, I wasn't to say an enthusiast, but I was ignorant to the full effects of the Patriot Act. I was like, what? I got nothing to hide. What's a big deal? Come on. Come on in. Monitor my data. I'm fine with it. See, if it makes

the place safer, good. I worry that I'm going down that same road again. You think I am? I mean, we're bad enough that like, probably. I mean, right now it seems like a great idea, right? We all thought It was ready after 9-11, and now it's like, yeah, no, that was a mistake. But, you know, how soon do we forget that, you know, when you mentioned Seattle, you had that autonomous zone that protesters literally just seized like three, four blocks of downtown, and the mayor was like, oh, it's just a summer of love, just let them protest, give them space. That is unreasonable in any country whatsoever.

Yes, it was catastrophic. I hope the history books reflect how many people were harmed by that. I mean, businesses were destroyed, what happened to an entire city because of that, bizarre lack of leadership. But anyway, Tim, hang tight. I've got to take a little break here. We are going to take a break. We're going to talk about D.C. crime.

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And we are back. Let's get Tim back in here. Tim Young. What's that, Susan? That Ken, Dr. Ken. Oh, you like that? Susan liked Dr. Ken. talking about me. He's an old friend.

So let's finish up with the D.C. issues. Is the answer a National Guard? And I guess we'll find out that's an experiment. It's definitely not keeping the current people in charge. That's one thing. Mayor Bowser's been mayor now for what? Twelve years?

Something like that? She's been in for a long time. And the chief of police literally seems like a DEI hire. My favorite clip the other day was when they asked what the chain of command was going to look like. And the chief of police said, what's the chain of command? What's the chain of command? I mean, who is running this city? Obviously, not that many people.

I mean, these are, again, they're just allowing these kids to go crazy. They're making all of their money on parking tickets. They've lowered the speed limit in some areas of town. I know you've got a nifty clip. Sorry to push your producers here about Joe Biden there. But they've lowered this. Yeah, go ahead. Let's play that clip.

It's very pertinent to this ad observation. You got that available? There it is. The staff who lives here in the hill reminded me, don't stop at a stoplight until I'm out of town. If I see a red light late at night, since there's very little traffic, slow up at the other block so I never come to a full stop except in the middle of the block because of carjackings, stopping the light, people standing in a corner, walking up with a gun. It's been going on for a long, long time. They have lowered the speed limit in some parts of the city now to 20 miles an hour and they have speed cameras everywhere. So not only are they, are they, is it a violent city to begin with?

They're setting it up for you to be carjacked more now. I mean, some of these kids can catch you quicker. It's really crazy. Do you have Janine Piro in there? Wasn't she talking about the same issue, Caleb, as it pertains to getting control of the adolescence in particular? Oh, stop it. We are putting all kinds of resources on to the street. Thank you, God, thank you guys.

Thanks. The drop in crime rates at the end of it. What changed? It's never enough. This changed. This changed. It's never enough. You tell these families, crime has dropped.

You tell the mother of the intern who was shot going out from me. out for McDonald's near the Washington Convention Center. Oh, crime is down. You tell the kid who was just beat the hell and back with a severe concussion and a broken nose, crime is down. No, that falls on deaf ears. And my ears are deaf to that. And that's why I fight the fight. Thank you. As Tyrus said last night on Gutfeld, he said when Janine would, he's, he's, you know, he's huge and he's a big man he's a rustler and he's afraid of her he goes he said when she when she calls out his name he pees a little bit he's that funny i need more government officials in the trump administration to grab the microphone she should just drop it that's the only thing that she missed there drop the microphone when you're

finished making the point my taxpayer dollars can go directly to buying new microphones for the department of justice yeah i i just don't understand why people don't want things to get better it's how so hard for me to understand that. They have, I guess, a fantasy about how humans behave and, you know, what affects behavior? Caleb, what do you keep throwing that up there? What point do you want to make? We can't really see it

from where I am exactly which city is which. The chart shows the violent crime rate per capita for multiple major cities. Washington, D.C., the line for people on the podcast that can't see it is almost double the lines for Chicago, Los Angeles, New York, Austin,

London, and Paris, which is just sad for our nation's capital. Well, and my understanding is that's even with the crime statistics being manipulated downwards, right? And certainly we know that in Los Angeles. We made everything non-criminal. You could steal up to $1,000.

You could use drugs. You could traffic drugs. It was not crime anymore. Those used to significantly contribute to the crime rates. What's interesting, too, is that, you know, this disproportionately, the crime,

disproportionately affects African Americans in that city. Absolutely it does. And the people out protesting to keep the streets unsafe all look like the from the last segment. Yep. And they're all still wearing their mics, the mics masks. And again, it's unbelievable what is going on in the minds of some of these liberals to let things keep happening. Wearing a mask outside. Again, this is so curious to me.

Is it strictly a talisman? Is it strictly a signal? Hey, I'm cool. It's their magad. It's the honest, it's the oddest thing. How are you still wearing it after Fauci stopped wearing it? Like that's what I don't understand. Like, he's your guy, right?

Trust the science. He's the guy that everybody was saying, God bless you. They were making, you know, little bobbleheads of them. These guys had on their desks. And now they're still wearing their mask. Was he wrong? Is that what they're saying? Not just still wearing their mask.

Wearing the mask out of doors outside in the fresh air. That, to me, is the most extraordinary behavior. It really makes me wonder, people who say we live in a simulation at their non, what are they called, non-human, non-operating. Yeah, I start to wonder, well, maybe they're on to something because this is the weirdest behavior I've ever seen. But here we are. Well, anyway, Tim, where should people see you? What are you addressing? What are you taking on these days?

I'm addressing nothing. And over it, Tim runs his mouth. I just tweet about everything it's going on in the world. And by the way, honor to be on here. I used to listen to Loveline all the time. I followed your career throughout your entire span of everything you've done. And what a great honor to be here with you. It's my privilege.

And right now I just find everything confusing. I want to get to the truth. I'm sort of concerned about things. But I think that we live in a time when we must categorically protect the Bill of Rights, the first couple of amendments, which were suddenly and astonishingly under assault. And I, what did I see? I saw someone on CNBC, I think, talking about, oh, it was Charlie Kirk talking about the fact that the elites have not apologized.

And I, to me, that's an extraordinary thing, that we've not, you know, that they shut down businesses, damaged kids, you know, maybe hurt people with an insufficiently tested vaccine. you know really ruined lives and did it without just no problem we're just lean right into this and no apology for any of the excesses let's just move on we do you know and and the the the we didn't know apology like we well it's the best we could do at the time like you didn't know so you leaned it wouldn't it be the if you didn't know why would you lean into totalitarian impulses if you didn't know why weren't you cautious with what you did if you really didn't know you'd be cautious

you thought you knew you thought you knew best and that's the danger of any centralized authority that's animating me these days i'm really really upset and concerned about that and we need to keep reminding yourself that we just did that and understand that centralized authority and elites are not good for us they're not in our best interest no matter how much they claim to be they are not yeah you know the kicker for me is when i get on an airplane and they make the announcement to be respectful of people who are still wearing masks. And I'm like, get out of here. Get out of it.

Do they say that? They say that on the airplane? On American Airlines I've heard of many times. American. I mean, if they're coughing and sneezing, wear it, do me a favor. Like, yes, I love it. Just give me a good cough. Yeah, if you have something and you're worried about transmitting it to other people and

you want to wear a mask, all right, okay. And but you better wear it properly. You better have a sealed N95 and you better not take it down for lunch or anything else. because otherwise, useless, completely useless. Oh, my God. All right, Sam, good to meet you. So just the X you want people to go to, or where else can people find it? Yeah, Tim Runs His Mouth all over the place.

You can find it. And the show is called Tim Rons's Mouth. And, yeah, people can go. Where do they find it? Where do they find Tumann's mouth? Are you a rubble? Just literally the easiest way to do it is at OnX. All right, keep running your mouth, my friend.

Good to talk to you. Thanks for having me. All right, Tim Young, everyone. We are going to switch gears yet again and speak to the Alex Marlowe from Breitbart News, where he is the editor-in-chief. He started as Andrew Breitbart's first employee. He also has a national radio talk show, a podcast, and you can follow Alex on X. His handle is just Alex Marlowe. Alex, welcome.

Oh, Alex's not there. Yeah, he's not quite here. Yeah, we told him not to come for another seven minutes, so we're getting him on right now. Okay, okay. I thought it was... No, well, I want to play some of the videos that Caleb has... I was just thinking I was in a parking lot at the doctors, you know, at the hospital. And there was like this young guy who was helping, you know, with the, with the,

helping people with their credit cards and stuff. Sure. On the way out, like for the... No, but he was walking around in the parking lot. He was in his 20s with a mask on. Oh. And I was like, God, I mean. Was he wearing it over his mouth and not his nose?

No, I just want to yell. I'm like, you don't need it out here. Why are you doing that? You know, but he wasn't, he was clearly wearing it. And it was hot outside. I always, I, maybe I should just get a little more bold because I want to know what they're thinking. I want to go, hey, you're wearing, I notice you're wearing a mask. Why are you wanting to?

Maybe if he had typhus. Typhus is not transmitted that way. Oh. I don't know. It just, I wish we could. By the way, we've had a typhus outbreak in Southern California, which I've been saying we will have more and more because rats have gone wild in Los Angeles. I meant tuberculosis. How do you say tuberculosis? Yeah, TB.

TB is a good reason to our mask. And we have a TB outbreak too. If you had TB, then we have a Chick-M-Yunga outbreak. And we have a dingy fever outbreak. And people don't even know about these things. We have 80s mosquito, A-E-D-E-S mosquitoes for the first time in Southern California. indigenous transmission of dingy never happened before that's a big deal yeah press hasn't hasn't caught wind of it they no one told them that that's a big deal therefore they're silent about that

they're talking about chicky chikunga in uh in china which is chicken younger's really hard to get that's a rare rare illness all right Alex Marlow Alex can we follow next Alex Marlo also brightbart news on X and brightbart dot com we're going to talk about the weaponization of americans America's legal system. Welcome, Alex. Dr. Drew is so great to be with you, and I would love it if you would want to write up for me at Breitbart, a list of reasons to actually wear the mask, because I feel like the only good one these days is so I know who not to talk to when I'm at a cocktail party or whatever. I just found out there's an airline not to take either, I just discovered, because they're

advocating overhead. Apparently they announce be respectful of people wearing masks. Okay. I'll be flying United. it's it is something though that is a good reminder a lot of those things like you know corolla's famous clicketer ticket uh sign on the 405 that no one needs we actually do need to be reminded to be respectful because i instantly want to be disrespectful the second i see the mask it's nice to be reminded I get, I feel, I actually have like a, I have an empathic response. At first I have, I have curiosity. It's like, really, why are you doing that? Why? And then I want to, I just think, what have we done to these people?

Look what we've done to them. They're walking around with people over their mouth and nose. But Dr. Drew, what about you makes you like that? Because I was thinking about, you know, my wife who's a physician and how, I don't think she'd have an empathic reaction because she deals with actual illness. She deals with people who have cancer. And so if you, most of them ask people, you assume. are walking around and they're just neurotic and sociopathic and hyperchondriacs,

or whatever it is. But you got to figure most of them are not, have something great, that's doing a great harm. I think most of them will be signaling something. Hey, I just think it's the right thing to do, which is okay. With those people, I have no patience. But if other people were to say to me, you know, I keep hearing about this stuff, I'm afraid I'm going to get sick. I'm interacting with the public all day.

It scares me. I'm scared. That's pathetic. And there's just, there's a, there's a general, like, all right, I think I'm going to say this out loud. In America, we had a reputation always for being sort of can-do and courageous and willing to go out into the frontier and go to Western Europe and help out. When do we become such pussies? Can we pinpoint it? I mean, I think it's when we ran out at a major problem.

It was probably the 90s when we were like doing good. And then it was just like, yeah, we got to create some new problems that we got to solve. And even if they're really small and light, but this is such a powerful thing, though, because we used to have the spirit of adventure. We used to have the spirit of danger. And we don't have any of that. And it's all frowned upon. They all try to squash it out of little boys who have it.

And it's just, it's not good. It's not a good track. It's not a good, it's not healthy for us. And we also seem sort of like allergic to leaders, like people that go, hey, follow me, let's go. Oh, toxic, toxic, narcissist, authoritarian. I've got to stay away from that guy as opposed to, all right, let's go. Let's take me in, boss. Let's go.

Yeah, that's it. Well, that fighting spirit, I think it is what drew a lot of people to Trump, I think, initially, which is, I guess what we're best known for at Breitbart is kind of catching. that wave first. And the part of it is because people like that were your ethos. And we used to have a lot of that in this country. And now we got the mask people for no good reason. You know, I'm just having a flashback to speaking to Andrew Breitbart.

I had a show on CNN, HLN. He came in. I never met him before. And he was the smartest, nicest guy. And at the end of the interview, he pulled me aside. And he said, I'm going to explain to how things are. working here, things are not what you think. And I've only recently understood what he was talking about, I think. I'm very, very naive to how things were working in this country. And he died a week

later. It was really one of the great, great tragedies that I was really looking forward to getting to know him because he just seems so sincere and smart. Yeah, it's a big week for me because my book came out and you were nice enough to have me on so we could talk about it. But what you always think about yourself in these big weeks and who you owe the, the glory that you've had, who you owe it to, who are the people who meant the most. And Andrew was number one for me other than my parents. And it is, he called so many shots. He was so prescient about the culture and how the need to win the culture worth. Do you know how much he would have loved this moment in the conservative movement where the left is represented by Lizzo and Rosie O'Donnell and we're represented

by Sidney Sweeney now. And they just gave us Sidney Sweeney. And they said, you can take her because she's hot and blonde and she's wearing jeans. And we can't handle that anymore. We can only have very strange, exotic-looking sex symbols for us. And Andrew would have loved that so much because he wanted us to be fun and we're finally fun. And I think that's why people like you come from L.A. and you've got an entertainment background that you get your information out to people through entertainment, through culture. And Andrew would have loved that.

That's interesting. I like that construct because I don't, I didn't, I don't see myself as right or left or conservative. I always thought I was sort of libertarian and I'm very much in that zone. But the left has sort of moved away from me. I spent a lot of my career fighting the right. I mean, they were very against the morning after contraception and all these things that they were just misreading the science.

And that drove me crazy. And now here we are where science has been completely misrepresented again. And the left has picked it up. Now, I can't believe that it just goes from one side to the other. But to your point about Andrew, I didn't experience him as conservative. I experienced him as fun, smart, and distrustful of the way we were going with our government. Yeah, I think he thought of himself as sort of a factory setting liberal and someone who was a default liberal. And just that the conservatives, I think, appealed to him, I think, in terms of values.

but they didn't appeal to him in terms of tactics. But then when he realized that it wasn't just the packaging, it really was the ideas. And the track record that the left had was just so bad. And I think over time, I think that really did push Andrew in the direction of conservatism. Well, and there's a piece here that I think a lot of people miss and I've lived long enough to kind of see it,

where the right was seen as either religious excesses, their conservatism or these fat cat white 60 year old males circa 1960 mind you with uh you know white thin skinny ties sort of dark rim glasses and that that vibe about the right is so deep in the psyche of some of the people you see singing in washington dc now those are the people out there singing because trump is you know moving in the national guard that's the the group that that has that in their head and it's just that doesn't exist anymore you know andrew redefined a lot of both both movements i think that he looked at conservatives who were represented great ideas but got them out through these columns and they would wear a bow ties

and a elbow patches and um he thought that that was a really bad packaging for the good ideas and then he thought the left would package you know be george cluny be all these celebrities that Obama video, The Real I Am made. And they had terrible ideas, but they were packaging it that way. And since we've kind of as a conservative movement conscientiously have moved away from that, we've got these online influencers and NFL players doing the Trump dance. And then the left is represented by the sort of joyless freak show that we see hand-wringing on cable news via Stephen Colbert or so these crazy people marching in the streets. And so it seems like they're almost pro-criminal now and i think that was a huge mistake yeah yeah and and Alex and and they also

don't seem to grasp that they are the ensconced elite they're the elite the elite they hate is them they have such a hatred for elite but they don't appreciate that they are the elite and that in their sort of sustained power grab they have overreach and is that not what your book is about that they've taken the legal system and turned into a cudgel. Yeah, that's right. So Andrew saw the left, he saw the cultures upstream of politics. That was the quote he's best known for. So it's really the cultural actors that are controlling the politics of the country. And the politicians are reactionary. They're not really leaders. They're reacting to it. And he identified three major fronts during his time, which was the establishment media, Hollywood and the entertainment

industry and then academia. So the establishment media has been pretty neutralized. Jeff Bezos, who owns The Washington Post, said himself, journalism's a least trusted profession. That's a W for Andrew. You see the power of conservative online media now. The influence their class, just so many conservatives dominating that space. Fox News, beating all the regular news channels. That's a sign that we're doing well there. Hollywood, we've neutralized Hollywood in a lot of ways because people are going to fewer movies, and the movies are now less woke. The woke pendulum swinging back. So that's another one we've made a lot of progress. Academia, we made less progress, but people need school,

need a higher education less than ever. It's too expensive. That's a bubble that's going to burst. But during the time that we've been working on that, Dr. Drew, they've opened up new fronts. The corporate boardrooms is one of them, where the wokeification of the corporate boardrooms has really made a big difference for the left in this country. That pendulum swinging back, too, but not good. And then finally, the one I'm focused on, which is law fear. Lawfare is the single biggest threat to MAGA. I know a lot of people in your audience are MAGA. the single biggest threat right now is MAGA. I go through that to MAGA is law fear.

I go through the history of it, but I also try to contextualize the six major cases against Donald Trump, which had a couple things in common during his post presidency, his interim presidency. All of them had a connection to Joe Biden's White House, and all of them were on flimsy, novel, legal ideas. So stretching the bounds of law and order

in order to serve a political purpose. That's what was going on, and we tolerated this for some reason, because Trump is just used to taking a lot of shit from people, I guess. But we really shouldn't. It's really outrageous what happens. And we need to get back to this being a country of law and order before it's too late. Well, it's so, it feels to, having been in medicine for so many years,

I got used to the excesses of the legal system whereby, what I, let me explain what I mean by that, whereby if you opened up any medical record, you could find something to something. You'll find something that you could make a legal issue of. And, you know, I just think about the way Martha Stewart ended up in prison. They were investigating for something else, but they, you know, send the net so wide and find something. They find a T that's not crossed, an eye that's not dotted.

And I worry that that's really the problem with our legal system. It's become so complicated and so repatious. that anybody can use it to an excess. I worry that the right's now going to use it to excess. Yeah, and the right will, in some ways, if we can, but we don't own a lot of the apparatus, a lot of the superstructure that's built, which starts at the universities,

it goes to the bar associations. It's all left-wing, or at least leading left, institutions. And then now the left, because they're very clever, they're fighters. They got this thing called Project 65, run by David Brock, who found in Media Matters. And what they're trying to do is get conservative attorneys, barred. So if you represented Donald Trump, if you represent someone who was, you know, a J6 prisoner

or something, you better not have an unpaid parking ticket because David Brock is going to find it and he's going to try to get you disbarred so you can't work. So you applied your craft for decades, maybe, got a great degree, doesn't matter. And we're not talking, Dr. Drew, you can't get a plum job at a white shoe firm. We're talking, you can't work as an attorney. That's the goal. Look, I understand, Alex, that's what they did to physicians during COVID. That's exact playbook. Exactly right. This is the point, we have to empower people to be able to fight back against these things. So there's some sort of balance.

So the excesses can't be put up. And I think Trump keeps saying this. They could do it to me, they could do it to you. I think a lot of people go, ah, really? I don't think so. But that's true. It's just true. They can find ways to go after you.

And I've seen it in medicine over and over and over again. Yes. And you're right on about this. And with regard to the Trump quote, which I referenced multiple times in breaking the law, it's, I come back to, I warn people, you know, the plan with Trump generally is don't take him literally. This is one where you should take him literally. There's evidence to suggest it. And I go through example after example where they're coming after just, you know, normal family guys who walked around the Capitol in January the 6th, like ill-advised,

but then the feds are doorstepping them in front of their families at the airport tarmacs and trying to get, if they get an attorney harassing the attorney. and I go through these cases, they're shocking, and they shouldn't be acceptable. We shouldn't accept these things. We shouldn't accept it in the legal world. We shouldn't accept it in the medical world as well. Your wife's an oncologist, right?

Yeah, correct. Oncologist? Yeah. How does she feel, I'm jumping, I've jumped sideways a little bit just because I was thinking about medicine. How does she feel about Vinay Prasad coming back to the HHS? I don't know.

I haven't talked to her about it. So I don't want to put words in her mouth. I'm tempted to you, but I would love to get her. I'm going to preload you with some data on him before you talk to her, which is that I've been following him for years. He had a podcast called Plenary Sessions. He is a consummate physician as an extraordinary ability to penetrate medical literature. And I used to listen to him to help me read the oncological literature because he could just see, he could just see right through it. And when he got in trouble around COVID, it was because he was appropriately calling

to question the conclusions of various medical literature and he is an asset i'm telling you he's a wonderful asset why laura was able to get him kicked out even at all it was a temporary thing but it was very disturbing to me i i don't know what to do with laura loomer do you can you help me no i have no idea i yeah i stay away from it because i don't want to weigh in one way the other because she'll inevitably do something really good and And then what we do? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're playing the music. That's funny.

No, no, because she'll inevitably do something I love and then she'll inevitably do something I hate. And it's, so I'm just going to observe. I get to put my newsman hat, not my opinion maker hat on with that one. But I'll tell you, where do you think Trump's getting all these great picks from? Because he's just, it's just a murderer's row of amazing personnel on the medical side of stuff,

which is just so refreshing and amazing. I agree. That's our video we posted about Beniperside. I think it's, I believe it's, an AI. I suspect it is. But yeah, I agree with you. Listen, when Jay Badacharya told me they were contemplating, they were thinking about him for HHS, I really thought I was, I was one of the greatest moments of my life. I thought, oh my God, this is so poetic. This is the most poetic moment. Yeah. I can't even believe it. Because he was, let's remind everybody, he is the one that

Francis Collins writing to Dr. Fauci said was a fringe epidemiologist who needed to be subjected to a devastating takedown. This is disgusting stuff. It is disgusting. Francis Collin, by the way, out there saying we should have 10,000 vaccines for kids. I don't, everybody, your wife will appreciate this too, Alex. There's no such thing as a medical intervention that is only good. There's no such thing. Every medical invention is good and bad. You're weighing the risk rewards for a given individual in a given situation, and you hope the net benefit is that. Net good. but not without risk ever. Isn't that something because I've got a family of doctors

because my wife's family is, many of them are doctors. And they always are trying to do as little as possible. That's always the goal. Yes. Surgery's last. Medicines second to last. And then can you do something without having to, you know, inject yourself or start consuming stuff?

100%. 100%. So where are the doctors that the Biden was getting? Like where we get Fauci and the friendly fascist Francis Collins from? I'm like, why are those guys in charge? They were, again, elite, hubristic, disgusting. However, it looked like Biden had a personal physician that was interested in doing nothing, including basic cancer screening for an 80-year-old man.

That's how he ended up with the advanced prostate cancer. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. That to me is extreme. Either that didn't happen. He had the cancer earlier and just pretending now that it's recently diagnosed, or it was really incompetent, seriously incompetent. So one of the things that you said a moment ago that I want to touch on

is how some of the stuff gets very complicated and then people get lost. And even the journalists who are trusted and the commentaries who are trusted to kind of sift through the stuff and curate it, even we can get lost. And you find this with Biden's medical history, which my previous book happened to be on Joe Biden, which I know we've talked about in the past on your show, Dr. Drew. And they told us that he only had, sleep apnea and a stiff gait, but there was stuff in there that was buried because they

never paid any mind to the fact that he had multiple aneurysm surgeries when he was a younger man. They also, they never paid any mind to the fact that with sleep apnea, which is a common thing, but they hid it for 15 years. And so why would they hide it for 15 years? Isn't that very suspicious? And then why we as the public and the media is lost? But why were we okay with that, that we shouldn't have we have demanded more and had more outrage at the time. And it's hard to do. It's hard to break through with that. And then I feel like that's a service I can provide with the breaking the law book is I'm trying to identify huge legal improprieties, huge illegalities, I think, when we have investigations and they're happening. This is investigation season.

And the book is your playbook for where the DOJ is likely to investigate. When we see this stuff, I try to clear up these super confusing cases, six at a time, that Trump not only had to navigate, he had to run for president while he's navigating them. And they're issuing these cruel and unusual judgments against them. They're gagging him. They're trying to threaten his lawyer sending one of them, Alina Haba. They tried to throw in a dungeon, Dr. Drew, a dungeon, a jail underneath the courthouse. The judge wanted to do that with her.

And then he's supposed to win an election during all this. It's so unjust. And we've had no accountability whatsoever. Well, Alex, he's an adjudicated felon, adjudicated felon, adjudicated felon. Those are the talking points, evidently. What's going to happen when Schiff is an adjudicated felon? What's going to happen when these state attorney generals are adjudicated? How is this going to work?

Are we just going to keep going back and forth? I think so, but I think that if you get people with integrity, they don't have these same problems. The shift one is just unbelievable because it looks like the statute of limitations might be up on some of the stuff. Maybe not the mortgage stuff, but some of the things that the whistleblower was reporting. But, I mean, it just looked like get to rights from those transcript that he appeared to be. to intentionally sabotage President Trump to frame him falsely as a Russian asset to time to Russia in order to undermine

the presidency of the United States of America. There's a dirty word for that, Dr. Drew. They start with a T. And if this is what it looks like, there's got to be consequences. Or I'll tell you, the people in the MAGA movement who want promises, made, promises kept, they want people held accountable.

They're not going to look kindly on this. So it's really now, it's on the people in power now to hold these bad guys accountable. The shift is hitting the fan. See, I've impressed my wife with that one. So, yeah. So it is gravely concerned to me. I was, I've been telling people that, you know, I saw this narcissistic trend at our country.

Because I worked in a psychiatric hospital since the early 80s. And I watched the diagnostic categories start to move towards Cluster B, which is the narcissistic category. And in the 80s and early 90s, I noticed that. borderline patients came in with at least 10 lawsuits under their belt, every single one, just every single one, multiple laws. And they have something called projective identification, which they act, they project out into the world their aggression and misery. And the legal system gave them the opportunity to do that.

And in California, particularly, they started learning about frivolous lawsuits and people started having to pay for these lawsuits and they died down. then I saw these same patients became lawyers and then they became judge and then they became judges and that seems to be the trajectory of a lot of the excesses that again I like to sort of understand the human experience and I'm not saying they shouldn't be judges but when you see the excesses and the kind of the you know some of the behaviors and aggression that's acted out through the legal system that's who's there that's who's in the driver's seat and so. So naturally, these things become problematic. You know, I didn't write about this in the book, and it makes a really interesting conversation now, because I think this is true. I do think that for a personality type,

the legal profession is going to select for people who are more controlling, maybe more of a god complex, the type of people who like the idea of controlling people's freedoms. And I think that that is, look, I could not have written this book without brilliant lawyers who helped me along the way. I'm not an attorney, but I consult with them constantly, some of them do some of the most important work in the country, honestly.

But it's the, I think in general, if you're taking a cross-section of hundreds of thousands or millions of them, I think you're looking for people who are generally feel comfortable controlling people's freedoms. And that is not a great personality trait on net. It didn't used to be that way, though. I think that's the point I'm making. I think that's a new thing. I think in the past it would be about sort of helping people thrive, frankly.

you know, how do you protect yourself? How do you build things? They were much more in that direction. Now they're about getting the bad guy. And the bad guy, again, were these people they have in their heads as the bad guy, not understanding that now that they're in power, they're the people that they used to hate,

that they don't understand that because they believe themselves to be wearing the white hat. And yet because there is so much, what we call projective identification, they're doing even more than the guys they used to hate. It's a mess. It's kind of a mess. I kind of hope these historical sweeps do tend to work themselves out.

But usually maybe this is the crisis we're in or we've been through it or maybe COVID was the crisis. I want to hope that the crisis has come and gone. But I worry that there's more ahead. This one hasn't. And that's the last point of the book that I want to share is the crux of it is just sort of how, what lawfare is, how we got here, and really how bad it was against Trump, and how no one's been held to account and they should, mapping out who should be investigated, what heads should roll, and name names, all of that. And that's very exciting. But the last portion of it

is a warning to people that this is happening now. I mentioned Project 65. The billionaire class is funding law fair on our streets every day, from George Soros to the Sandler Foundation, which you guys can look up, which is just unbelievable, unbelievably nefarious entity on the left. Reed Hoffman, who's a LinkedIn billionaire bankrolling the phony E. Gene Carroll lawsuit, which wasted Trump's time, tried to embarrass him in order to rig the election. It ended up in a cruel and unusual fine of $90 million when I would love to get your diagnosis of what you observe about that woman. She is completely mental if you read my take on it and you go through the detail I provide. There's no other conclusion other than this person should not be trotted out in public. She should be left alone, basically. I really, I got to read your book to see the data. Because I don't know her except for the accusations, which seem wild. And let's be, you know, I know we went through a period where you believe all victims, believe all women, believe all victim. Yeah.

But I'm here to tell you, again, having worked in a psych hospital, and you can say that that is a self-selecting population, but believe me, it's not a, it's a significant percentage of who's out in the world, very common for something to be experienced in a way that did not happen. it can be wildly different than the actual reality, which is why physicians always bring another person in the room with them. I've been accused of really wild things. And thankfully, I had a nurse with me. We documented everything. And it just was, again, a distortion, either because of drugs and alcohol or withdrawal or a borderline personality disorder, where they literally perceive a different reality, severe borderlines. And I feel bad for them. But they, you know,

don't get to harm other people because of those distortions. And it's, it's, you know, believe everybody all the time. I don't know how we sort that one out. Because, you know, I do want people to believe. It doesn't make any sense because that's a whole guilty until proven innocent framework just because someone's a male, which is that's, you can't have a society like that. We need equal protection under the law. And when I go through is there's three tiers of justice in the country.

There's normal people's justice. There's the justice for the Hillary Clintons and the James Clappers and the John Brennan's who get MSNBC contributorships and they get book deals for what they do. And then there's the Trump tier, which is that you may have not even committed a crime and they're going to figure out a way to indict you for it because they hate your politics. That should not be acceptable to people. And I don't know why we're kind of – I do know why we're blowing through it. It's because Trump won. But that is not an excuse because they're going to come back at us again even harder than they did before. and so what is it they imagine they're doing this is the part i have trouble with i mean what is this

are they vigilantes for socialism yeah that's just how they're going to do i you know what because it's such an odd thing to to be not understanding that you're hurting people i i mean i guess you know the you know every socialist movement has always hurt so many people in the name of good um but is it the same impulse no it's about power so it's a power thing. With the left, political power is the most important thing in their lives. It's more important than family. It's more important than career. It's more important than God. That is their number one, collectively, of course, are exceptions. But they collectively, the people who are running the left-wing apparatus in this country, everything they do is about in preserving and

enhancing their power. And so you can always see it. I was tipped off to this when I was at Berkeley, and one of the clubs was called Bam, by any means necessary. This was a, a, affirmative action group, but I was always struck by that. Any means, like violence, like depriving people of civil rights, conspiring to keep their rights from them, you would go to that level to get your political goal. Conservatives aren't like that in general. We make our mistakes, and we could spend time talking about those, but that's not our thing. That's what the left does. And then when Trump comes in and not only takes all their power, but steals a bunch of their best ideas, like we're in too many foreign wars and we need to look out

for the working class. And then he also proves them wrong over and over again. you know, they say the border can't be secured. He kind of secures it in like six months. And then he's going to clean up D.C. crime. And everyone's going to go, oh, wow, I guess we could have done that ourselves. But they choose not to. Then it's just very infuriating to them. It's so easy.

And Trump was saying that the other day. He was talking, I heard somebody said he was interviewing him and said, you know, this governing thing is pretty easy. Just secure the border, settle conflicts, you know, raise lower rates. It just, you know, stimulate the economy. But where has the right, in your opinion, gone off the rail? What have their mistakes been of late? Well, I think we're, long term, we got ourselves trapped into a couple of bad trends.

One was the military industrial complex, very real. I went to D.C. I got there in 2013, and I thought, no way, that's real. Like, I was a national review reading Republican. There's no way we're just sending people to war because it's going to hurt the bottom line of a defense contractor if we don't. But, oh, yeah, we're doing that, absolutely all the time. and that was pretty freaking shocking to me that that was not a conspiracy that that's a real thing um that's an obvious one and then i guess currently we're i think we're doing a little bit of the pandering to what gets the most attention what's the most provocative online at the expensive truth

truth has always been a conservative value and um it's never been a left-wing value because of what i mentioned is that truth is at best secondary to achieving power so they're willing to lie in order to get power because they think the ends justify the means there we've always valued truth. And I think a lot of our most popular provocateurs now who are really good at being provocative and entertaining are doing that over being truthful with their audiences. And I don't love that. Let's say I understand it, but I don't love it. And I'm seeing it more and more. I am a thousand percent with you. I think to ascend to some approximation of the truth is our task. As a task as a scientist, it's a task as a participant in society. I mean, truth matters.

if we don't, if we don't return ourselves to truth, we end up in some, some place where everything is relative, including harming people. And as you say, the social ill is always done in the name of good. Alex, what's on your mind going forward? Where should people find you? What do you want them to be prepared for with your upcoming podcast, publications, books? Thank you. Yeah, it would mean a lot. If you picked up a copy, break, the law, you will enjoy it. It's a, there's a lot of good stuff here. You'll learn a lot, and it will get you primed up for when the investigations come down. And I think it's a warning to keep people involved and fired up to engage in the civic process as well. So it's my shortest book. People are saying

it's my best one that I've written. So that would mean a lot. I'm podcasting wherever you get your podcast, Rumble, YouTube, Apple, Spotify. Dr. Drew, we had a great episode. It was a long form like an hour, so people can check that out if they want an entree into what I'm doing. And brightburt.com for all your news. Alex, good to talk to you again. Thank you so much for being here, Alex, at Breitbart, where you can find Alex, and I will look forward to reading that book. Dr. Drew, thank you so much. Let me get you a copy. I want to get off of here here.

Right. 1,000%. Thank you, Alex. See you. And we have coming up, I believe, Rosanne on Tuesday. Is that again? Yes, at our normal time. At our normal time?

I like this time, though. The 1.30? We're getting a lot of viewers. That's good. It might be like a different. Maybe we'll see it. Again, Caleb, it's far enough, the screen now is far enough way for me in this very in a lot of studio here.

Allegedly Roseanne. Lee Rosanne on the 19th with Dr. Steph Vin Watson. She's going to come. Dr. Kelly Victory is hosting on the 20th with special guest Dr. Ryan Cole. Steve or Steve Hilton is on the 26th. Our Kleinsmith is on the 28th

and then Salty Cracker for Drew's birthday on the 4th of September. Fantastic. Got a lot of stuff coming up. Tuesday. Tuesday. Okay. Yeah. We're going to be okay. We'll be in New York, but we'll be ready to go. A couple of comments before I wrap it up. Somebody was what? Abraham Lincoln had depression? People were trying to kill him. Abraham Lincoln was a very well-known

depressive. So much so that when he broke up with Mary Todd the first time, as a young man, he became so depressed. He couldn't get out of bed for two weeks. And his friends stood vigil because he kept threatening to kill himself. And they had to make sure he did not get access to knives for two weeks. He also then became obsessed with the idea that he had syphilis. There's all these communications between him and a Springfield doctor where that doctor finally went, Abe, here, just take this mercury and just stay on it. Don't worry about it. Even if you have syphilis, this will take care of it.

Side effect of mercury, depression. So there's stories of him in his first term in particular where he was so depressed that, again, the war really bothered him. He couldn't sleep. He'd spend the night in the war room. He'd also have some sort of manicie episodes too, so it might have been bipolar. But the depressions were the most profound. One story is where he was pulling Tad behind him with a little red wagon down Pennsylvania Avenue, apparently lost and thought.

He started at the White House. The wagon spilled over, and he didn't realize that he left Tad behind until he got to the Capitol building a mile away, mile and a halfway, whatever that is. Oh, the good old days. So he was depressed. So to say he wasn't is a misrepresentation. And he may have been a little narcissistic, too, like a lot of these guys. So that's, you know, wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, our presidents have lots of psychopathology.

I love Grant. Grant was great. Grant was a severe classic alcoholic. But that made him a great warrior and a great leader. So Bill Clinton probably had some alcohol something and maybe some sex something too. And, you know, I think he was a great administrator. brilliant guys. So say what you will, be careful using too many labels to to marginalize presidents. Their job as president is sometimes enhanced by their psychopathology or

independent of their psychopathology. So hard to say. This is a human experience that we're doing here. U.S. government. Humans are flawed. Humans are biological. And that's who's in these jobs human beings all right let me look at what we got going here uh looking at your guys stuff here anything in the rumble rants you want me to pick up on or in the restream uh thank you tell everybody what you're doing here uh doing a show called health uncensored which will be you'll be hearing about in about two weeks i think it's coming out it's on lifetime i'll get you the tune in as we go forward here it's a good show I'll be, amongst other things, we'll be talking to Jay Bata Chari.

We'll be talking to Dr. Oz on that show. We've got a lot of interesting medical breakthroughs. Charles Brenner, the guy that developed nicotinamide ribicide, is coming on one of the shows. I'm so excited to talk to him. So we have many different, really good shows, and it's becoming a real talk show. Which I take every day. Yep, I take an R every day too. And I said, V-Sred.com.

There it is up there, I think. Wait, Dr.org.org.com slash V-shred. The nicotinamide riboside. So I told my producer, I said, you know, I have a competing brand with True Nijan. I've developed now. And they said, well, he knows. He knows about it. And I have no less respect.

I mean, I still am an absolute enthusiast for him and True Nijian. I mean, there's just, I made a more, a more, um, uh, affordable brand. And I think I want everybody on this stuff. And I think he would agree with that as well. Right. There's everybody, there's enough room in the world to, for everybody to have the same brand. It's not, you know, it's not like

one guy makes Tylenol. Exactly, exactly. Like how you think about that. All right, everybody. Sure. Yes, Aleve Green mentioned JFK doing cartwheels. Yes, JFK was strung out in opiates because of his back pain. Then, because he was fatigued all the time,

got put on meth amphetamine injectably by this asshole doctor, who eventually he developed a meth psychosis, and threw his clothes off and was doing cartwheels down the hallway of a hotel. This is, check your history books, that happened. And finally, a well-trained psychiatrist stepped in and said, Mr. President, we need to take care of you. Don't see that doctor anymore.

And they straightened him out. But imagine if that had happened during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Again, this is the human thing. We have humans in these jobs. It is okay to look at their frailties because they all have them. All right. Thank you, Herb. Thank you. Do we need an AI president? No. I was maybe an AI consultant president.

Caleb, anything on your mind before I wrap this up? Nope, not much. Just excited for Roseanne, allegedly, coming in. She's always hilarious. We're always afraid. I'm always afraid, but, you know, she's very busy, but I'm very excited to have her back on the show. She's great. She's great. But definitely go back and watch the previous shows. We're going to be gone. We're going to be busy for the next.

few days. So we'll see you next Tuesday. Yes. We were filming down here in Florida and hang on, I always blank that. We will miss everybody. And thank you. We had a huge following on X today, up to 14,000 viewers, which we're very

happy about. So share if you care, everyone. Help me, Caleb. Partly, I had to... No, we're up to 16,000. Oh, good. Caleb, can help me with Elijah's name of his show? want to promote it, comes out of this studio. Slightly offensive.

Slightly offensive. Slightly offensive. Yeah. Yes, thanks for the use of the studio, Elijah. We appreciate it. And we appreciate them, yes. And TWC. And this is TWC studios, Peter Kulululi as well.

We appreciate everybody welcoming us here and letting us use the studio. Right. Makes this all quite possible. And we will be looking for you all on Tuesday at 2 o'clock Pacific time, 5 o'clock Eastern. We will see you then with Roseanne. Ta-ta. Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Caleb Nation and Susan Pinsky.

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