Ask Dr. Drew - Tish Hyman: In Viral Video, Singer Demands “No Di*ks” In Women’s Locker Rooms, Sending MSM Into Frenzy + Corey DeAngelis on Teachers Unions vs. Basic Biology – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 562

Episode Date: December 6, 2025

Tish Hyman walks into a women’s locker room at a LA Gold’s Gym and sees naked male bodies. She tries to ignore it, but it keeps happening for months. When management does nothing, she reaches a breaking point and explodes in an exasperated rant captured on a viral video. But the mainstream media has a problem: Tish is a proud black gay woman and a Grammy nominated songwriter. The person she confronted was Alexis Black (formerly Kyle Grant Freeman), who is white and appeared male – and was reportedly “sentenced to one year in an Ohio prison in 2022 after pleading guilty to savagely beating his then-wife and breaking her jaw” (NY Post). Now the MSM is tied up in pretzels. Can’t call her racist. Can’t call her homophobic. Can’t call her sexist. So instead, the media dismisses 2025’s top story about the erosion of women’s rights, leaving the real journalism to TMZ. Education activist Corey DeAngelis joins to discuss the Trump admin’s dismantling of the Department Of Education, and a whistleblower video of teachers union members claiming “biology is a spectrum.” Tish Hyman (AKA Latisha Tawana Hyman) is a Grammy-nominated songwriter and artist who has has collaborated with Alicia Keys, Kanye West, Ty Dolla $ign, H.E.R., and many others. Follow at https://x.com/listen2tish Corey DeAngelis is a senior fellow at the American Culture Project and a visiting fellow at the American Institute for Economic Research. He holds a PhD in education policy. Follow at https://x.com/deangeliscorey 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 • AUGUSTA PRECIOUS METALS – Thousands of Americans are moving portions of their retirement into physical gold & silver. Learn more in this 3-minute report from our friends at Augusta Precious Metals: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/gold⁠⁠⁠⁠ or text DREW to 35052 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/fatty15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/paleovalley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • VSHREDMD – Formulated by Dr. Drew: The Science of Cellular Health + World-Class Training Programs, Premium Content, and 1-1 Training with Certified V Shred Coaches! More at https://drdrew.com/vshredmd • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twc.health/drew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠) and Susan Pinsky (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/firstladyoflov⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠e⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Executive Producers • Kaleb Nation - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • Susan Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/firstladyoflove⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Content Producer & Booking • Emily Barsh - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/emilytvproducer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Hosted By • Dr. Drew Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/drdrew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Those of you that didn't see the tape we rolled in with, I suggest you scroll back and check it out. So much history happened on this show. We were like the French underground at the beginning of this whole debacle we call COVID. But history continues to unfold, and Tish Heimitt is part of that. She went viral after complaining about men in women's spaces, basically. That is her fundamental complaint, and she has very eloquently confronted some of our politicians here in California. And of course, they have no answer. After Tish, we'll talk to Corey DeAngelis.

He is discussing Trump administration's dismantling of the Department of Education. I spoke to Linda McMahon myself. Also, we're going to talk about a whistleblower of the teachers' union members claiming biology spectrum. Is a biologist? I'm going to hear all about that. All right, in any event, Tish Hyman is here. I'm very excited to talk to her at Listen to Tish, where you can see her on X. We'll see her talk to her right after this.

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viral video, or maybe saw her on TMZ being interviewed by Harvey. I immediately, Susan, you want to speak about your enthusiasm for Tish? the one that immediately called it. Emily Barsh, our content provider over here at Ask Dr. Drew. I said, we got to get her. I just put in Tish Hyman and she was like, oh boy. I don't know if I'd be able to get her. Let's bring Tish on in. Tish Hyman at Listen to Tish.

Thank you for being here, Tish. Appreciate it very much. Thank you so much for having me, Dr. Drew. Thank you, Susan. So the at Listen to Tish, is that your ex or Instagram? I want to get both out there. right at the top. That's everything, Tish. Listen to Tish. Listen to me. Okay.

Okay. And so let's start by describing Tish. Tish the singer, Tish the performer, Tish the athlete. And then what happened to you and where we caught our enthusiasm for your frankness? Well, I'm originally from the Bronx, New York. I grew up there, born and raised. I was pretty much a battle rapper for most of my teenage years. I developed my singing voice over time and, you know, just wrote a lot of different songs.

And then I wounded up getting published in about 2012 with Universal. And I've written songs for Alicia Keys, Tidalas sign, Kanye West, her. I was nominated for my work. Good for you. I got a nomination for that work. And I've just been in L.A. for 15 years now, just singing, writing songs, and just living my life and, you know, just going through the absent flows of life. So I, I winded up gaining 100 pounds after my mother passed away a few years ago, maybe almost eight years ago. Oh, goodness.

Yeah, and I was in the gym every single day, you know, rebuilding myself because I just, you know, like everybody goes through things in life where you just find yourself just out of touch. with certain aspects of yourself and you have to, you know, take accountability. And that's what I did. So I lost 100 pounds in the gym between 20, 23. Diet and exercise, old-fashioned way, diet and exercise, right? Were you a workout fiend? Were you a gym fiend before that or is that something that came late? You know, throughout my life, I've always gained weight and lost weight.

It's kind of interesting around like 10 years ago. it happened again. I was about 220 pounds and I just woke up and decided I need to lose all this weight and I lost like 85 90 pounds at that point and it was your diet and exercise just you know working out a lot. I guess I fell in love with working out around then like around 10 years ago because I just loved it. But when I took a few losses, you know, I ate my way back up and you know I had to work my way back down. That's how it works. Now you know, it's gold. you were working out. And this is, I, I'm a huge Golds fan. I've been, you know, working out at Gold's gyms myself for 30 years or something. I remember when the one in Santa Monica was the only

one. And that's where Arnold and Franco and all those guys used to work out. And so these are legendary gyms, but they franchised them and they're quality gyms. But what happened to you there? Well, you know, I was working out there, you know, probably five days a week. And then sometimes I would go twice a day because I was really just trying to lose a lot of weight. And I go to the sauna after every workout that helped with a lot of my excess skin so that I don't have it. So I was just working out all the time and everything was fine. I had a pretty good report with all the people to work there. It's just been lovely. And then like maybe a month ago, the first encounter was I was in the locker room after the sauna and I was, you know, I took a shower

and I was oiling up and just getting dressed for the day. And I turned around to a man in the locker room and I was in shock and I said sir like just kind of unsure what was happening and he was just like you can't tell me nothing B word I'm a woman and then I was like what right there right like that just for you just going whoa whoa whoa just wow wow was it the same guy I mean same perpetrator same salient different one different one he was probably in his like mid 20s I wanted to put him over my knee when he called B&P. I'm like, what? I don't feel like, confused.

I'm like, what did you just say, get out of the restroom? Get out of the restroom at this at once. And, you know, because I'm a lady. I'm like, what are you talking about? I didn't, none of this really registered to me as real. So now I'm like causing the stink and the staff comes in and they're kind of like, and I'm like, what's wrong with everyone? Why is everybody looking like?

I'm crazy. Can you get them out of here? What is this? And then they then tell me this thing about men being able to, identify his woman. And I'm like, so this is not against the law? And they're like, no. And I'm like, whoa. So I go home that night.

And I go back to the gym the next day, I'm thinking, this is going to be an isolated insulin. There's no way that's going to happen again. And that's when I run into Alexis Black in the locker room. And at this point, I'm like, this is madness. What is going on? And I'm like, what are you doing in here? You can't be in here. He's like, get with it.

Sister. I'm a woman. You can't tell me nothing. And I'm like, what are you talking about? You have a big penis. I can see it through the times. It's with us in this room. It's here. What, what are you talking about? There's no woman in front of me. And then he calls me a bee. And I'm just like, you know, I'm ready to just like go off because I'm like, I'm not dealing with this malarkey today. It's crazy. So now I'm just destroyed. Let's stop. Let's stop. I'm going to stop. So your first reaction, I find amusing, because the first reaction, you're, you're sort of like become mom.

Like, hey, you kids need to get out of here. This is cram. This is ridiculous. Get up. Stop behave yourself, right? It's like, your mom kicks in there, right? Yeah. And then, but then you're confronted again.

I like your, I like the, I just love the honesty and the clarity of your reactions because even I didn't know about this first one here. Hey, what? Get out. Get out of scram. Get out of here. I don't need the penis in here. Okay, got it.

And then the second one. So they educate you and they say, no, no, no, this is the way we have to be. And then the second guy, assailant, seems like this person was sort of, I'm going to try not to use his or he or gendered anything. We'll call this person an assailant. The second assailant was, seemed to be kind of trolling, right? Like almost looking for a reaction. When I saw the interview on TMZ with this individual, it was sort of like it was unnecessarily full of... Well, exactly what you were faced with,

this sort of get with it be kind of stuff, right? It was ridiculous. I was like, excuse me. So now I'm sad because there's nothing I can do and I'm angry. So I'm crying in the car. And that's like one of the videos that's online is me actually comments to terms with the fact

that this is actually happening to me. And I'm like, what the heck is going on? And then this video magically got muted. So I took it down because it was bringing me a lot of hate. And I was just, like, so confused. I was just like, honestly, I felt violated. It was really bad. Do you mind me asking you, do you have, did you experience in your life rapes or sexual traumas or anything?

Was this a revivification of something you've had to endure in your life? When I was a child. You don't have to answer me. If you're not comfortable, you don't have to answer me. But I think it adds power to your story. I think it's important for me to say this. It's a part of my story. When I was a child, I was in a foster care system.

me and my siblings. And we all suffered, you know, molestation and sexual assaults in there as a lot of children typically tend to do. However, I was able to, you know, fight through all of that to find the worth in myself and to make sure that just because I was a child, and this was the only reason that this happened to me, to make sure that in my adult life that I would provide myself the life that I wanted and I would make no excuse for my life. So I took responsibility for my life.

So this doesn't, this is not the reason that this is a thing. Any girl would feel like this, whether or not she's been through it. This is actually going through that. I understood. Yeah. So let's spell this out. So there's two issues. One is you're a trauma survivor and this is deeply unfair to your history and the, the

triggering of something like this of your trauma. Number one. And number two, and any female would be traumatized in real time. Even if you'd never been traumatized before, this is hard to manage. It's overwhelming. I don't know what I would do. Right. It sort of shatters your regulatory system, right? Your brain, you're like, what's going on here? I feel helpless. I probably wouldn't go back. Well, so you, so then you left the room. the locker room or the bed restroom whatever it was and you what happened i went and filed another report and you know nothing was done they just told me you know this is law and then i just

felt like it was almost like being in some sort of twilight zone episode to be quite real i was like this makes no offense and i'm trying my best of this there what happened in my life and so i take two days off from the gym which was like for me mental it just was like why am i doing And it's because of some guys, I don't understand. I go to the new location, brand new location. I go there thinking, this guy's not going to be in there. So I go in there. We have my usual workout.

I get out of the sauna. The girls are in there. We're all just doing our girly stuff, whatever. And I'm getting dressed. And there's a girl in there. And she was talking about how much we love the locker room. This girl was in her mid-20s, pre-med student, who are still in friends with to this experience. And so I was telling her, yeah.

It was nice. I started coming here. I drove a little further than usual because there was a guy in the locker room and there were men coming in there. And she was like, what? And then Alexis Black, the assailant, comes out of nowhere like a locker room bully.

You're talking about me, B-word? And I'm like, what are you doing in here? And this point, I'm half-naked, the girl's half-naked, we're standing in and getting dressed. She just went into full-on shock mode. and I went into full-on mother mode.

What are you doing in here? Get out of the restroom. There are women in here naked. This is wrong. I'm screaming. And he says to me, straight women like the CD word. So if anything,

they're looking at me more than you. And I said, what? I couldn't even compute the ridiculousness of that phrase, of that statement. I was in shock. and then I was disgusted

and then it really let me further know where this person's head was at and I got even more angry and I started causing more of a scene and again they came they did nothing we filed the report me and that young lady to this day she couldn't understand it

and this is what's happening so now at this point I'm trying to get emails from the girls I'm going into the locker rooms and talking to the girls they use the facilities and I'm saying hey girls there's an issue with men coming in here they didn't believe it so I'm showing them the video and they're like holy snap. Actually, I didn't have the video yet. I was just telling them and they didn't believe it and they didn't really react. So it was just frustrating. I'm like, all right, I got maybe like 25 emails. I wanted to get 100. So the next day I go into the gym again. And who's there? Alexis Black. I don't even know what happened, but we were all in a sauna and I was telling the girls what was going on because I'm trying to get, I'm trying to get people together here. I'm like, girls, we have to fight against this because this man is,

It's coming in here. And then the staff comes and tells one of the girls, you have on clothes, you can't be in the sauna with clothes. So the girl goes out to go get undressed, which I thought was interesting because they made her get undressed. She goes out, she sees him, and she starts pointing to me. So I come out. And I'm like, girls, come back me up.

And of course, the girls left me hanging. Only one girl came. And that was a brave woman with a camera. And I start screaming at him, why are you in here? You have to leave. You cannot be in here. And that's the video that you first saw

of him in the locker room. A brave woman recorded that video and airdropped it to me. That video was not recorded on my phone. And when I got that video, I posted it.

And again, nothing was done by the staff. The women were afraid. Most women were scared to speak up. Women are non-confrontational. Like your wife said, she wouldn't know what to do. People don't know what to do

in these situations. It's crazy. It's stressful and unnecessary trauma. well it's it's not respectful to women and their boundaries there even their body boundaries and their safety feelings feelings of safety and i and you eventually both of you were expelled from the gym is that what happened so this day i got the locker room footage from a girl so i posted this locker room footage online and it started to do like a lot it was like people were looking and they were like what is this the next day i go to the gym and this day i'm by myself and i walk

into the locker room and he followed behind me I didn't even see him and he was like beware and I just ran out and I ran into the gym because I'm like I'm not dealing with this

I ran into the gym and I screamed help I said why is a man in here if he's not wanting to rape us he's got to be out of there and that's when the video of him being approached came out

and that's the day that we both got our memberships revoked first they walked him out and then they came and got me afterwards and walked me out with police

embarrassed me walked me through the gym where I worked out with him And I'm a singer. I'm not a criminal. I don't have a criminal record. I am like law abiding.

I'm afraid of jail. It's not my thing. So I don't understand like why I'm being walked out with police and I'm embarrassed. And everybody's looking in the gym like, oh, my God, because people see me work out. I work out really hard. And at this point, I noticed. At this point, I'm walking now. And I'm thinking to myself, no one's going to be able to warn these girls.

They're getting me out of here. And I don't know if I'll ever be able to come back. But I'm going to scream it. out. And I'm going to say something because I'm going to let the girls know. The only reason why I yelled like that, I would never do such a thing. It's just, it's embarrassing. But I was like, who's going to tell the girls? I'm going to tell them. And I told them. Right. Right. So here, so the scale has gone too far in one direction where women are being completely undermined and led to be feeling unsafe. and there are also people that worry that in sports women could get really harmed or hurt

or their scholastic and athletic sort of achievements could be undermined by people with X, Y, chromosomes. So there's a lot here. There's a lot to get into. We have to take a little break here. What I want to do is get into your confrontation with the California politician because I thought that's really where the rubber hits the road with all this. This is, it's awful that you are traumatized by this.

It is awful that women's rights and privileges are not being honored. I understand it's complicated, but I like the clarity with which you see it. You're sort of, I keep saying that what Tish wants is like a no parking sign, you know, with the circle with the cross over it, with a penis in it. No penis. That's all. No penis in here. That's all. Very simple.

keep it clear, keep it simple and indeed from a standpoint of trauma and feelings of helplessness it's very important. It's not a trivial issue. So let's take a little break here and we'll come back with more Tish Hyman, follow her on X, listen to Tish.

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and for gifting go to dr drew dot com slash paleo valley for 15% off your first order order 20% off when you subscribe. All right, Tish Hyman is my guest, and we've been having a really interesting conversation here, and we're going to continue that conversation. Tish, so you went and you had the opportunity to very, very, I thought, respectfully address a California politician. And if you don't mind, I would like to play a little piece of that.

And by the way, I'm not sure if Caleb included this one moment in the, in the video, but it's my favorite Tish Hyman moment when you announce your name and you mic drop at the end. I thought that was magnificent. So I don't know if that is in here or not, but if it isn't, I want to point that out as my favorite moment, my favorite Tish Hyman moment. Okay, but let's see what we got here, Caleb.

Listen, we need to protect women's safety. I was assaulted. I was assaulted. No, they are not. They are men. I was assaulted by women. He broke his wife's jaw so bad as she needed a reconstructing surgery. I'm a lesbian.

I'm not transphobic and I'm black. So if there's another black woman in here who wants to tell me how they feel, please join in. But all of you are not. And I don't know who you are, what you are. But I'm a lesbian. And I'm telling you right now, men are harassing women in the locker room. Let's let him answer the question. I appreciate your point of view.

I'm so sorry that you were. Multiple times. And I appreciate you talking about it. I think we need to protect the safety of all women. And obviously that's incredibly important. I also know that trans women are also brutalized in this country. So women and sister women are brutalized in this country and we have to protect the safety of all women. We have to protect women.

We cannot be raped in the bathrooms by men that want to say that women. They're not women. They're not women. I'm leaving. It's okay. And then the mic drop moment ensues. But the clarity. Taylor, we cut off the good part.

It's okay. The clarity is that you just have to protect women. There's no middle ground for that, right? And you're saying, again, we can get, I am actually kind of, my view is sort of more moderated. I'm not, I'm not all one all one. I mean, yes, people, I've treated people who have transgender identity who legitimately went through a process and,

carefully selected and going through this and they and they actually are very sort of they're not like Alexis they're very like I have to take these strong medications I have a disorder it's something it's important in my life and and they would have the ones I know that that I've treated and dealt with would be very respectful of your environment and your feelings of safety I would think so it seems like somebody who would want to violate that is doing it for some other reason definitely I mean No good man in their right mind wants to be in the restroom with women. That's just it. And, you know, I went through a series of different emotions and waves of like a realization of this throughout the process.

And no, any man that wants to go in a women's space is just not a good guy. Well, I certainly anybody that would taunt you with genitals and their point of view. And if you've, let's just think about it this way. Any interaction that I would have with you anywhere, if it made you uncomfortable, I would back off. I would go, oh, I'm sorry, what can we do to work this out? I wouldn't impose myself upon you. Well, you know, that's a good man for you. But the reality of it is, is, you know, even myself, someone once misgendered me,

the restroom, right? And I turned around and she was like, oh, I'm sorry that I scared you girl, but same thing over here. I said, look at these boobies. They're down there. Ain't nobody paying for these boobies. Okay, baby, these are just regular boobs, okay? It was a laugh like that, and we kept it moving. It was nowhere near as traumatic as turning around to women in the restaurant. So this was just like the truth of the matter is that a man in the restroom, a man in a woman's space is intimidating, especially an intimate space where a woman is at her most vulnerable and undressed. And a young girl going into a restroom that says women and meeting a man in there is scary. Doesn't matter what man it is. He could be friendly. It's scary. What are you doing

in here? You're not, there's no sign that says men will be in here in most of these places. you know so no they just can't be in there it needs to be completely stopped men's sports they just need to be in a sport yeah how do we do that how do we protect women what what these politicians clearly cannot come to women we refuse to come to women's defense till the point where it will become a serious liability for them are you going to can you sue these these organizations that put you in harm's way You can sue anybody for anything these days. But the reality of it is what really needs to happen is bills need to be amended. People make mistakes, and there's no way to make a perfect bill. So let's just focus on fixing the mistake, not pointing fingers at who made it or who created it because it's already here. We need to be action-orientated when it comes to this situation, and it's nonpartisan. So the left and the right need to get it together for the sake of the entire plane.

Are you getting a lot of support from other women? Absolutely. And as well, and internationally as well. It seems to be a problem that has been going on overseas for quite some times and is much further along in its journey to detriment and destruction than we are. I think what we do here in America and how we reverse this is going to set the planes for what happens overseas. But it needs to be done. I think that politics needs to be re-branded to people in their 20s and 30s and 40s.

Because when I'm going to these town hall meetings, I'm not seeing anyone young enough to really be able to enjoy the future. You know what I'm saying? Like these people are like in their 70s making us for 30 years from now. It makes no sense. Yeah, I've said that just today to someone that Gen Z has got to get, we have to figure out what is going on with them and they need to be included in the conversation. Because they tend to be very insightful and very synthetic, right? They figure out what's up.

And it seems to me they would be very, very interested in this sort of a problem. 100%. I think the whole world is interested in this problem, but there seems to have been some sort of brainwashing that took place where, like, we were convinced that the majority thinks that a man can be a woman when the majority is using their right mind and saying, Absolutely not. But the lawmakers are passing these laws while people are sleep at the wheel.

That's all it is. People are waking up. They're like, what? This is a law? What? Wait? Yes, absolutely. Right now.

And I'm making sure to use my voice and my platform. I'm learning as much as I can. And I'm going to make a difference in this politically in the best way that I can in the most of it. Is there going to need to be a third restroom? What is your sort of plan? No penis in the, the women's room. Okay, it's pretty clear. What do we, had you try to accommodate other people? What do you do? I think the first thing that needs to happen is the bills need to be amended

that give these people these specific rights that they don't, they shouldn't have. They should have the same rights as any man. There should be no specialization for this. I think the first thing is stopping that, undoing the law, undoing this bills, these bills that tie them in women's reproductive and all these laws just get them out of there once we get them to accept that they're men that wear dresses then we can address the corporations and see since they gave them the transformations give them the support you did it halfway guys you're not done yet either you're gonna believe the right say that again because i because i think that's what you said in the car was like women wear dresses makeup whatever you want but no penis in the women's room you know it's like you

You want to support people to be whatever they want to be. Listen, this is not an attack on men who want to wear dresses. What this is is a clarification. We need to be united in truth. The truth is these are men. They want to wear dresses, cool, but like, they're men. They're no safer than a man in overalls and I don't even know how to describe this outfit because I'm such an entertainer.

But the point is, they're no different from any other man. It's okay. You're wearing your dress? Have a good time. I'm so curious how to deal with this. What if it's a male that has had a genital reassignment? No penis. It doesn't matter.

It's not about just the penis. A man is a man inside and out. When you're getting naked in a locker room with a person who has something different than what you have, whether it is supposed to be kind of similar, it's different. And I don't want to be in the room with someone like that and examine them with my own. and trying to figure out, well, is that real, does it look like mine? Is it? You know, and I definitely don't want them looking at me and examining my parts, because regardless of whatever you think you are, you don't have these parts. And you're sitting there. And no matter what, you're taking

it in and you're, it's just this feeling of where animals inside, we are who we are. And women didn't ask for this. We didn't say, hey, guys, come in here with us. We said, y'all can wear your dresses do whatever you want because if this is how you want to express yourself fine but the problem was we started lying and saying that they were trans women and that's a lie they have nothing to do with women they start up as boys who think their girls born in the wrong body whichever explanation you want to have for it and then they become what they think is their idea of a woman which is nothing like a woman because they don't know what a woman is so they're just creating a man's version of a woman which isn't a woman And it's a man's version of whatever that is.

It's just too much confusion. Like, why do we have to get a whole trans education? Just get out of the bathrooms. It's ridiculous. I'm just, I'm sorry. I'm trying so hard to eloquently talk about this. And it's like, what are we talking about? It's crazy.

I have a hard time. Like, when you go to restaurants in New York, it's always men and women in the same place. I always get really, like, my feathers ruffled a little bit. When I come around the corner, and there's a guy standing there. And then also, you know, I've accidentally walked into men's rooms so many times. And it almost, it just throws me for a loop. I'm like, oh, my God, I went into the men's room, you know, because there's a guy at the urinal, and I'm like, oh, my God, I've invaded his space.

But we live in a world where there's a group of people that believe everything is socially constructed. Nothing is biological. Nothing is intrinsic. And I think, I hope we're coming out of that. that biology has a role. That's one thing I'm going to talk to Corey about in a minute. But biology is real.

Biology exists and disorders exist too. I understand people can have a gender dysphoria and need to switch and take some very powerful, dangerous hormones and maybe go through some very dangerous surgeries. But these are not trivial matters. And my profession needs to get that right. And the women should be protected along the way. Are you getting... Now, I've seen more sort of online traction around...

the gay and lesbian community wanting to divorce from the trans community. Are you getting any pushback from the LGBT world or is it supportive or both? How's that working? The LGBT world is supportive. Women are supportive. Women want to be safe again. And, you know, being gay or bisexual, you know, is not the same as thinking that you're born into the wrong body. I mean, LGBT, lesbian, gay.

gay bisexual. What is the rest? What is the queer? It's like the definition of queer is weird. And it's like, I don't, I don't think that being, it's not weird. We're just, we're attracted to. We're attracted to. I think the T and the Q plus, what is this, a subscription?

What is this a plus? What's behind that door? It just seems like a lot of things that we don't need to be concerned with right now. It's just like, it's too much. This should be no talking about sex. Or they have their own, you know, sort of flat. Agenda, labels, whatever. Because it's always weird to me that sexual orientation and gender got

overlapped. They're very different topics. They're very different things. And I guess it's the fact that, you know, you're young enough that you didn't have to fight the battles of the generation before being gay. There were really horrible things that gay men particularly had to go through in the 50s, 60s, even in the 70s. And I feel for that.

terrible thing. But we don't need to expand it out to everybody that has had been put upon therefore when things go better for the gay community. You know what I mean? It's like you've got to look for another group to glom onto. The trans hijacked the LGBT movement and they hijack black civil rights and they're hijacking everything and it's because the men and men are conquer us. They love to conquer. And it's It needs to stop. We've got to be honest. We've got to be honest.

Hey, it's all good. We're your dresses. It's all good. But we got to keep them out of men's sports. We need to amend these bills. It's all good to do whatever you want. But it's wrong when it's infringing on other people's rights and other people's privacy. And that's all that's happening here.

It's being disregarded. And it needs to stop. And we need more men like Drew, more men to step up and support women. We need for people to understand that collectively, we think this is wrong. And, you know, I got a petition out there, and I need to get it to a million signatures because I want people to see a million people in America care about women's safety. And it should be easy to get to this. And, you know. Where do you go for that?

Where do you sign up? The link to that petition is in all my social media websites right in the bio. It says protect women, protect women's safety, sign the petition because I really want people to understand that across all 50 states. We need the laws to be amended because it's just wrong and things are just, it's women all over should be protected, not just in LA, not just in Texas, everywhere around the world where there's women, they need to be protected and spoken for. This is breaking the states up, it's getting real crazy out here. But I'm learning and I plan to do my part and to do my best to represent the people and my advice to the people is use your independent thinking. Stop thinking like gangs. It just is ridiculous.

Wiener, all these politicians, like stop being concerned with them and be concerned with the bills and the laws that they are passing because that's all that matters. Yep. And I notice you were wearing Jennifer Say's X, X, X, Y clothing. She's been very concerned about this in the athletic domain, as long as also Riley Gaines. Are you joining forces with all these other women?

I love Jen. I've definitely spoken with her and we've been working together. And Riley, we've spoken most recently. So hopefully we'll be doing some more stuff together. Megan Kelly has been extremely supportive. And I want to thank all of the people that have been speaking about this and being grave and coming out and speaking about this. Even if it wasn't inspired by me, if it was, whatever it was, I'm glad you're coming out and speaking it. And I'm so happy to have all the supporters. I don't care if you from red or blue. This is a nonpartisan issue. So let's come together, you know. But I do appreciate it and I do have plans to do as much as I can. Your clarity is infectious. And you are definitely the right person to deliver that kind of a message. And so it's very contagious, very contagious. And I hope you see it through on behalf of women.

And I hope you get a large coalition of women who join you. because women are being strangely undermined in so many ways. It's like I think the denial of biology has caused us to poorly serve women. And I mean that on many fronts. I don't mean that just in this particular domain. Whether athletics, even in workplace, by denying what is real and different between men and women, We disempower what is real about women. We make them have to be men, and they've got something much more going on.

And we should honor that and value that and protect that. And, you know, there we are. And there you are, Tish. So right in the middle of it. Thank you so much, Drew. I really appreciate you. And I just want to say to the people out there watching this, you know, listen, we've got to come together. I need everybody paying attention to the politics in the state.

Look at the politician. Look at the laws. And think about what you want for your community because it's up to you. Your vote counts. Don't let people make you feel like your vote don't count. And if you would like to support me, whoever wants to support me, I will love it if you follow me on any of my social media. Listen, number two, Tish. I got a song that I'm releasing in a couple of days.

People keep asking me to make a go-fund me, but I'm not begging on the internet. I made a product. And it's called Bad Bives. and it's a song about what's going on today and it's because we don't want no bad vibes. Grown women, you know what parentheses is going to say, BV. We don't want no BV. And if you're a grown lady and you've been around a little bit,

you know what BV is. We don't want it. And what's your name? Fish Hyman. Thank you, Drew. Thank you for having me. Corey, congratulations on the new baby. Thank you.

I hope you'll meet you again soon in person one of these days. guys. Listen to Tish, everyone. My name is Tish Hyman. I just love that moment. I know. We didn't play. Sorry, it's okay,

Kay. It's okay. We got it live. Okay. So, we are now going to switch gears and talk about the Department of Education and what's going on California and school boards and teachers' unions. There's a lot to get into. Corey DeAngelis joins us right after this.

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Corey, thank you for joining us. Hey, Drew, thanks for having me. So there's a lot to get into, but the obvious topic after Tish is I understand that there's, at least in California, I believe, a mandate to treat biology as some sort of spectrum, some sort of Lucy, I don't know what they're teaching. I'm a biologist by training. I don't know, large gametes, female, small, many gametes, male, X, Y. whether are there a variety of chromosomal abnormalities in less than 0.01% of cases, we're going to define everything that goes in biology based on the outlying case. No, that doesn't work.

Yeah, so Dr. Drew, I'm a doctor, but I'm not a real doctor. I'm more like a Jill Biden doctor. I have a PhD in education policy. So I might not, hey, maybe the Teachers Union is right here in Washington State, where they're saying that biology is a spectrum and that sex is more of a social construct than a biological construct. And so we actually found some undercover videos from the Washington Teachers Association. It's the NEA affiliate in the state of Washington. And there's two ballot initiatives that are gathering signatures right now by Let's Go Washington,

a group out there that pushes free market ideals. And they have two ballot initiatives. One of them is to restore parental rights and education, pretty basic stuff. And the other one is to protect women's sports. So what's the Washington Teachers Union doing in their infinite wisdom? Well, they're not teaching kids. They're not getting the basics right, math reading and writing. What are they doing instead?

They're holding these group meetings to coach other teachers about how they should mobilize people to oppose parental rights and education and to oppose protecting girls' sports. And so I leaked a lot of these videos that came out from a whistleblower that's actually in this meeting. I blurt out all of the information of the members there. But those are teachers union members in the shot. And you have one of the teachers that comes forward and says, you know what, I'm a doctor. I have, you know, all these degrees in biology and gender studies. And, you know, we can't protect girls sports because, well, biology is a spectrum.

And, you know, all these things that they do to test, like look at the gender. genitals and do all of these, you know, other procedures, they might conflict with one another and they start getting into the intersex stuff and they use these outliers to say, well, we can't protect any girl sports because who's going to know? We don't know if the boy's actually a boy playing in the girl sports. It's just, we're just guessing in the, and that's what the doctors do at birth. They're just guessing the birth. It's not actually, you can't figure it out. So they try to make it as complicated as possible. We looked up the donations of who's funding the effort to go against these initiatives in Washington.

The teachers union is the number one person funding or a group funding the efforts against the ballot measures to restore parental rights and education and to protect women's sports. That was just one of the videos that came out, by the way. I shared some other ones. One of the other teachers in the group was brainstorming and saying, you know, when we're messaging this against these ballot initiatives, we should remind everybody that these aren't Olympic-style athletes that we're talking about. These are middle school volleyball girls. Who cares about them? They were trying to say it's not a big deal because this is an Olympics. They're not setting records or anything.

But if anything, you can make the opposite case that the younger girls should be even more protected because they're not adults yet. You know, they're more susceptible to injury and you can go and so on and so forth. But it's just crazy. You see all these other headlines of the teachers unions have just been pushing their far left agenda more than anything else nationally. Randy Weingarten is pushing a book right now called Why Fascist Fear Teachers where she compared America to Nazi Germany when she went on MSDNC the other day. She said that she wears a paperclip because the teachers in Norway during Nazi occupation during the Nazi period, they used to wear paper clips to protest against Nazi occupation. So she wears paperclips all the time down to you.

And by the way, she copied my book cover. Her book covers the same as mine. And she was on a podcast recently saying, oh, that's just a coincidence. I didn't plagiarize him. A lot of books have these kind of book covers with the white. ish background in the blue and the red. If you see her book cover, it looks exactly the same. It's not a coincidence.

And there you have it. There's a clip of her attacking me as well. He stalks me. So there was 4,000. There was one year, I think, he tweeted at me 4,000 times. You're so weird, Corey. How dare you? She's just so wrong all the, there's her book.

It looks exactly like mine. Mine came out of year before. her. But yeah, the podcast host basically asked, like, you know, so did you copy his book? And of course, she's not going to admit that. But, oh, 4,000 times I tweeted out at her that year that she was talking about this. I guess she was referencing last year or something. And by the way, she actually has a person named Asher that works at the union that she hired to keep track of how many times I responded to her on Twitter. I thought it was 5,000 or 6,000 times, Dr. Drew, because she's wrong many more times than 4,000.

I only reply to her when she's wrong. But, yeah, she, it's just, I guess if you're catching flack, you're over the target. At her annual convention last year, she had on, in Washington, D.C., on the projector behind her, a list of her three primary enemies. One was Betsy DeVos, one was Chris Rufo, and the last one was your ears truly.

Well done. Congratulations. Like you said, you must be over the target. That's where the flack is the most intense. So what needs to be done? I mean, how, is it parental rights? Is that what needs to be reinforced? So parents can assert themselves against this power? Well, the red states are figuring out, and these are the ones that are less controlled by the teachers union. Some Republicans are in the pocket of the teachers union. For example, President Trump's administration just recently, announced an additional move to further dismantle the Department of Education by signing six interagency agreements to move things out of the Department of Education and into other departments so that it becomes an easier lift for Congress to totally eradicate that department once and

for all. I mean, I will say it was created in 1979 as a political payoff by Democrat Jimmy Carter to the Teachers Union. The NEA, he wanted their endorsement, the largest labor union in the country. And again, they've been so political that 99.97% of the campaign contributions from Randy Weingarten's union went to Democrats, the last election cycle. The teacher union is more of a money laundering operation than an academic institution. And they're not really concerned about educating kids. And so a couple of things that we can do are what the red states are doing with leading on the issue of school choice, the money doesn't belong to the government schools that you're assigned to based on your address. The money's supposed to.

to be meant that we pay for in taxes for educating the kid. And so the basic kind of policy mechanism is to allow that funding that's meant for your child to follow the kid to the school that works best. And that could be a public school if you like. If you like your public school, you can keep it. But if not, you should be able to take that money to a private school, charter school, or home-based education option, which leads to competition. It's a rising tide that lifts all boats. It improves the outcomes in the public schools because they have to up their game. They have to think about things. And instead of labeling parents as terrorist or cutting off their mic, they have to actually treat them as a customer as a partner in the relationship as opposed to an enemy. And so that's

one way to do it. And the other thing is teachers need to leave the union and join alternatives like the Teacher Freedom Alliance, especially in blue states. I mean, teachers have been brainwashed. It's almost a form of Stockholm syndrome that they think they need the teacher's union because they provide personal liability insurance, but the teacher Freedom Alliance is giving that. It reminds me the American Medical Association, which was just a physician lobby group and no longer has any utility for any physicians under almost any circumstances. So very few doctors actually belong to the AMA. People don't understand this. We belong to our professional societies, the American College of Physician, American College of Surgeons. The AMA is just this

relic of some lobby group from the past. It seemed like the teacher's union needs to go the same way. Let's switch over to the Department of Education and Linda McMahon. I had the opportunity to speak to her in Washington. Caleb, I don't know if you have that B-roll. We don't have to get into that interview so much. But she essentially told me, she didn't say this specifically, but she said, you know, I'm here to dismantle the Department of Education. This is ridiculous. We spend more money to anybody. We get worse outcomes than anybody. This is a, this is not a functioning department. What's happening now? Yeah, it should have never been born. It should never been created it was a it was a political organization from the start and they had their

stated purpose of closing achievement caps they haven't done that because it was never about improving academics that was just kind of a charade and they've thrown more money at the problem and i hang on i got to tell you i i i when i really my scales fell from my eyes when i saw the second obama administration uh cabinet member from the Department of Education, the Secretary of Education. It was a young, smart, black man, and he was on the Chelsea Handler talk show

when she had a talk show on streaming. And she said, the conceit was, I didn't know anything about education. I didn't go to school. So I thought I'd bring the Secretary of Education here to find out what is education all about? So Mr. Secretary, what do you do? And he goes, what do I do?

What's my job? She goes, yeah, what's your job? She goes, he goes, my job is to make. sure the civil liberties of every student in this country is protected and i thought oh my god that is that is nothing to do with education what a waste of money what is going on here that was when i was like oh crap we need to get rid of this department oh and all a lot of the democrat politicians like obama say that they love public education so much but then they send their own kids to private schools and you want to catch them ever saying their children to the failure factories like in

In Chicago, they have 55 public schools with not a single kid proficient in math. They spend 30,000 a kid. Private schools are often half that amount in tuition. In fact, the president of the teacher gene out there are named Stacey Davis Gates. She said standardized testing was rooted in racism or in white supremacy. Of course. They called reopening schools racist during COVID. And she sends her kid to a private school.

So there's so much hypocrisy. And the Department of Education, it's spent over $3 trillion since its inception. It hasn't done anything to improve academic outcomes. In fact, we've had decades of learning loss post-COVID. And in places like Chicago, they've lost about 10% of their student enrollments in 2019. But guess what they've done? They increased staffing by 20%. And the most recent year of data shows that they've spent about $8 million on travel expenses,

which is doubled pre-pandemic levels. It's just crazy. It just seems to me there's nothing, I don't know of anything more racist than allowing African-American children to languish and not get properly educated. That is the most racist notion and the most handicap. How do you handicap a population? You just, you don't, they tried to do that here in California, if you remember. Remember Prop 186 from way back where they mandated that children that, you know, didn't speak English? learn proficiency in English.

This was racist. This was terrible. And of course, the kids came around in six months. There was no problem. They learned English as opposed to being handicapped because they didn't speak the language of the country they're trying to get jobs in. Well, I mean, hypocrisy is the norm for the left-leaning politicians. I mean, and it's because the teachers unions make it that way because all of their money

is funneled back in the form of money laundering to the Democrat campaign coffers. and Democrat voters support education reform. You look at, you poll them over and over again, they support school choice. And I really think that school choice parents tip the governor's race for DeSantis in 2018 at least because his opponent wanted to get rid of the voucher program. But yeah, you're right.

I mean, this idea of systemic racism, it's so obvious in the public school system. But that term is just used as a hammer by the left to silence people that they don't like or policies that they don't like. But then they give the public school system a pass. And then their only solution is to throw more money at it, which has never worked. We've increased per student spending by 108% in real terms since 1980, since the Department of Education

started. Have the outcomes gotten 108% better? No, they've gotten worse. And so the thing is politicians don't respond to logic. They respond to power dynamics. And there's so many of them that are owned by the teachers unions, they have to be hypocritical. They send their own kids to private school and then they then they they fight against anyone else having that same opportunity maybe it's elitism maybe they think oh well i know how to choose i'm smart i'll figure it out but those low-income parents they think don't have the ability to choose for their own kids which is totally elitist because low-income parents too they know their kids better than anybody else and they had the best incentive to get the decision right it's their kids they have to live

with them for the rest of their lives they're going to choose right ultimate racism, ultimate classism, ultimate elitism, it does not get any more elitist than that. I was just looking up a evolutionary biologist, a psychological evolutionary biologist named David Buss. I thought he was in Washington, but I guess he's now down in Texas. But I looked him up because I thought, wow, Washington has one of the great biologists who has worked on the differences between the X, Y, and X, X, X, X, organisms and but he's had to i got chased out of that great state of washington uh well i live in texas so he came to my home state and that's great um the land of land of freedom and we we just passed the universal uh school choice program this this this year and

it's going to affect uh this uh parents to start applying i guess i guess what's going to happen is the the the proof will be in the pudding i mean people just look at the data i mean where are things going better, where are they going better? Well, and where are people voting with their feet? They're going to states that have school choice. Of course. It's my buddy Adam Carolla calls safe spaces and octagons. He goes, the world is just going to be safe spaces and octagons.

Texas is going to be an octagon where people who had diet, exercise, fight it out. And the safe space estates are going to start coming to the octagon states for assistance eventually because it's going to get so bad. they're just going to fall apart. And I noticed, was it California, somewhere wants to start chasing people when they move for a percentage of their, not just income, their net worth.

This is, this is a crotonian times. I mean, yeah, it's great that we have laboratories of democracy and you have these theories about Tebow competition that the politicians are going to listen when people vote with their feet. But, you know, the individual politician, I don't think really cares that they have net,

you know, people leaving the state, right? I mean, the overall government maybe does, but the governments don't have incentives. People have incentives. And so it would be great. I mean, Republicans are going to win seats in Congress for having better policies. I mean, Florida is expected to win seats in Congress in the next census. I wish the census was done every five years instead of 10 years so that we could have more better representation for states that are gaining people who actually want to live there.

They'll have more seats in Congress. Texas is expected to win seats. New York and California obviously expected to lose. I looked at the map that shows like the red and green states that are expected to gain and lose. And I think there were like eight that were for sure going to gain seats. And I think all of them had some form of expansive school choice policies. Whereas the states that were losing population and losing seats, they are in bed with the teachers unions and not giving people the opportunity to raise their kids. homeschooling too. A lot of homeschooling. I bet you that's going to really pick up.

Corey, where do you want people to go? How do you want people to support your projects? Hey, you can follow me on X. It's at DeAngelis, Corey. And then you can get my book, not Randy Weingarten's book, even though she copied the cover. It's called The Parent Revolution. It's on sale on Amazon right now. It's endorsed by Donald Trump and many others as well. And, yeah, Parent Revolution on Amazon. Go check it out. Yeah, be a part of Randy Winegarten's most wanted list. Join, join Corey with the public figures with targets on their back as far as she's concerned. Oh my God. It's just, we live in the upside down. We live in a very strange time,

but I think things are kind of moving in the right direction and this great experiment and this wonderful constitution and that a miraculous Bill of Rights is actually doing its job in the state system, too, to be fair. I mean, the fact that we have these states is really our strength. We get right down to it. All right, my friend. Thank you for. joining us and keep up the good work. Hey, thank you so much, Dr. Drew. Good talking to you. Corey DeAngelis.

Continue to be where Andy Gart and Wine Gardens number three on the most hated list. Okay. I don't know if you know this about me, Drew. I'm going to tell you a story. Okay. I'm still very hurt by this whole man in the women's locker room.

You walked into a, somebody got into middle school locker room. Well, no. I was very shy because I was a late bloomer and I had no hair until I was like 16. And I remember like always hiding my body and, you know, everybody around me was going through puberty. And I was kind of like hiding myself because I was still like a little baby, you know.

But if there was somebody with a penis in there, I don't know what I would do. I would never, I mean, I wasn't athletic. I was kind of weak because I was still a baby. But I just, I feel like this should be addressed, like more than ever, because. Because that's traumatizing. That would have been traumatizing for me. Yeah. And I already have enough problems.

But it just really kills me to hear this. And I, you know, these liberals are just so crazy. Like, think about the child, you know, each girl. So I saw you ranting about it on the Rumble rant. So did you get support there? No, but I mean, it's just, I, we're talking about this like, oh, yeah, and the girls' locker in this and that. Being a girl in a locker room is a.

very intimate moment. Like, I remember just having to change my clothes and being so self-conscious. Look, I 100% support women and what they are going through during development and the difference. But you live in a world where there are many people that say, that's all socially constructed, and we could undo all that. None of that really exists in reality. Yeah, but I just wonder how I would have been affected by it then. You would have been traumatized. You would have been traumatized.

I mean, I was traumatized when Laura McCriman got her, period. You know, I was like, these are all traumatizing things. It's, oh, sorry, Lauren. Well, women need to support each other. There's a chance for women to get together as opposed to fight each other. And why we don't is what the question is. Why don't we, as women, speak up and say, I don't want this. I mean, some have, obviously.

There are women out there. Jennifer, get what Jennifer say. Yeah, and it just, it breaks my heart that women are just getting pushed down. and push down and push down over and over and over again. Well, it's interesting that the way Trish-Tish constructed it is, you know, why are men doing this? Because men conquer, they do this. But I got it, we have to wrap up here.

Lawyers do it. What does? Lawyers. They make the bills, they write the bills. The politicians do anything to get, you know, to get... No, but she's right. So everybody head on over to her socials and sign the petition. I'm going to do it right now.

Okay. And you should too. All right. Caleb, coming up. guest, I believe we have a really interesting thing set up for tomorrow. Joseph Freiman's coming in. Stephanie Van Watson has some new data on

taking the saturated fatty acids out of the diets and whether that's good or a bad idea. Joseph Reimann is I haven't talked to him in years. He was in the NIH for a while. We're going to get a update on him from the last week talked to him. He had just talked to the FDA.

Now he's been inside the whole system. I want to bring him up to the present. of what he thinks about the debacle that happened during COVID. And then you see the rest of our guests here. A lot of great guests coming. Take a look. Keep an eye on it. Be here with us.

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