Ask Dr. Drew - Trump Assassination Attempt: False Flag, Inside Job, or USSS Failure? Analyzing July 13 w/ John Cardillo (Ex-NYPD) & Zach Vorhies (Google Whistleblower) – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 381

Episode Date: July 20, 2024

On July 13, 20yo Thomas Matthew Crooks allegedly stole a rifle from his parents and attempted to assassinate President Donald Trump at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania. How did this happen, why did this happen… and why are many people doubting it happened at all? John Cardillo is a former NYPD officer, radio and TV host. Follow him at https://x.com/johncardillo After spending years as a senior engineer at Google, Zach Vorhies released 950 pages of Google’s internal documents in his 2019 exposé of the search giant’s bias and censorship. Drawing on his intimate knowledge of Google’s search engine, Vorhies revealed a Big Tech plan for information dominance and its powerful influence over global events, elections, and the lives of millions of people. Read Zach Vorhies’ book “Google Leaks: A Whistleblower’s Expose of Big Tech Censorship” at https://amzn.to/463UIu1 and follow him at https://x.com/perpetualmaniac 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 Find out more about the brands that make this show possible and get special discounts on Dr. Drew's favorite products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors  • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at https://drdrew.com/fatty15 • CAPSADYN - Get pain relief with the power of capsaicin from chili peppers – without the burning! Capsadyn's proprietary formulation for joint & muscle pain contains no NSAIDs, opioids, anesthetics, or steroids. Try it for 15% off at https://drdrew.com/capsadyn • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley • TRU NIAGEN - For almost a decade, Dr. Drew has been taking a healthy-aging supplement called Tru Niagen, which uses a patented form of Nicotinamide Riboside to boost NAD levels. Use code DREW for 20% off at https://drdrew.com/truniagen • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. 「 ABOUT DR. DREW 」 Dr. Drew is a board-certified physician with over 35 years of national radio, NYT bestselling books, and countless TV shows bearing his name. He's known for Celebrity Rehab (VH1), Teen Mom OG (MTV), The Masked Singer (FOX), multiple hit podcasts, and the iconic Loveline radio show. Dr. Drew Pinsky received his undergraduate degree from Amherst College and his M.D. from the University of Southern California, School of Medicine. Read more at https://drdrew.com/about Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So here we go. Of course, the topic of the day is the near fatal assassination of the former president last Saturday. We can't escape it. And so we're going to lean into it a little bit with a friend of mine, John Cardillo, former NYPD officer and conservative commentator down in Florida. He's got a lot to say about this. And the question of the day reminds, is there some people are advocating that this is some sort of false flag?

Well, what's at issue here? Whose fault is this? Was it just incompetence? Was it planned? What is going on? And then Zach Voorhees comes in. He, of course, is the Google whistleblower. He was a senior software engineer at YouTube Google for eight and a half years. Google

leaks the name of his book, A Whistleblower's Expose of Big Tech Censorship. And even he, I don't think, foresaw the level of censorship that the tech world would get into, except for X. So, stand by. We will get into this topic in great detail. I'll be watching you with Restream before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals. Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Loveline all the time.

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Dave Smith next week. Kelly Victory coming on back. I've been throwing Emily Barsh lots of good guests, so she will be no doubt setting that all up for us as we go. So John Cardillo, as I said, is an old friend. We used to talk to him all the time on my HLN program. He's a former NYPD officer and a conservative commentator. Let me get the particular where you can find John.

You can follow him on X at John Cardillo, C-E-R-D-I-L-L-O. And let's see. Let's just stay with that for now. John, welcome to the program. Good to see you, Drew. It's been too long. It has been a minute. Where can people hear you and see you going forward?

My ex-account at John Cardillo that you put out all of my content, I'll distribute through that. So that's definitely the best hub for it. Perfect. So your take. We've not discussed this. I don't know what you're going to tell me. Was this just incompetence and an unfortunate series of events?

Was there someone, was there a sinister force afoot here? We're hearing now that the Iranians had an overt plan to kill President Trump. What do you think? Yeah, no, this wasn't Iran. And the conspiracy theories about this being a deep state architected assassination attempt, you know, driven by Biden and Mayorkas, you know, that's sensational and it's glamorous, but that's not what happened here. What happened here in reality was an abysmal failure, an absolute breakdown in every step of the process.

I've been writing that every link on the chain snapped, Drew. It wasn't the joint links, the critical ones. Every link snapped. So let's start with the glaring obvious elephant in the room, not securing the rooftop. And we'll get into some asinine things. The director of the Secret Service, Cheadle, said about that. But let me put it in terms that'll resonate with you. Not securing a rooftop when you're protecting a principal, a protectee, especially a former president. At that point, the nominee, presumptive nominee, but he was the nominee. And with what the polls are recently showing, the next president to not secure that rooftop is akin to a surgeon not washing their hands before

walking into the operating room and performing surgery. It's simply not done. The Secret Service began protecting presidents in 1901. Teddy Roosevelt was their first protectee. They've got 123 years of training under their belt. The doctrine to secure rooftops goes back almost as far. So this was a catastrophic failure, and it was driven, when I was talking to some senior people in Homeland Security, which of course is the parent agency of Secret Service, and it was driven by lack of budgeting, driven by short staffing and understaffing in the Secret Service and the woke culture. And the short staffing is really the most critical point of failure here because what they've been doing to supplement Secret Service personnel is pulling agents from other agencies under the Department of Homeland Security to supplement Secret Service details.

Now, Secret Service has two missions, right? Maybe, you know, maybe some of your audience does or doesn't. Everybody knows that they're the guys who protect the president. We've all seen the Clint Eastwood movie and the line of fire, but they also handle financial crimes, counterfeiting, credit card fraud. They're the lead agency. In fact, prior to 9-11, when we didn't have a department of Homeland Security, they were under department of the treasury. So the presidential protective detail has always been the elite at Secret Service, typically veterans. Normally you do about eight, nine years in the field. Then if you're really good at what you do and you train well and you're physically fit

and you meet the height and size requirements to protect certain protectees, right? You've got to be at least as tall as your principal, if not taller, because you want to cover their whole body if God forbid somebody takes a shot at them. Those were the people that made the detail, but now it's a little bit different.

Now they're pulling agents from Homeland Security investigations from ICE. Now, these are investigators. These are good agents. These are people who are very good at what they do, but they're not given that extensive protective detail training. They're not training with the other agents night and day. And there's a word I use, choreography. If you've ever watched tier one special operators, Delta, SEAL Team Six, clear a building, clear rooms, it's almost like a ballet. Everybody is in sync with one another. They don't have to say a word. If you go back 40 plus years and you watch Ronald Reagan's detail when he was shot, they had that same flawless choreography. What we saw the other day, because of this fragmented way to pull in personnel. People who've never trained together

aren't training on the same protocols. What we saw was a mess, just a complete mess. And that's what happened. There was no grand conspiracy. You know, people say the CIA, what they don't realize is right now the CIA is up there with FBI and parts of secret service in terms of incompetence and wokeness. They're not the CIA that used to change regimes in countries. That's not where we are today because of the mess in our federal government. So this was really just apathy, incompetence, and a complete lack of command and control. Really interesting. And yet we have the current head of the Secret Service saying things in a public interview. Absolutely, I'm responsible for this. The buck stops with me.

And then she goes on to other topics. The buck stops with you. The answer is, the question is, what are the consequences for you and for your decisions and for whomever else you've hired or you've put in positions of authority who may have made bad decisions, what are the consequences? And it doesn't seem like they're going to be any. Well, look, I mean, we lost all those service people and billions in equipment and that disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan and nobody lost their jobs right here we have sadly one fatality a guy who lived as a hero as a fire chief and died as a hero protecting his family yeah right but i mean i mean this that's been the trend in this administration innocent good people die and no

one is held accountable nobody loses their jobs nobody loses their pensions but but the most preposterous thing she said is that they didn't have a counter sniper team on that rooftop because the roof was sloped. The slope on that roof, I do a 15 degree incline on the treadmill every morning and the slope was less than that. Right. But here's here's the egregious part. Drew, here's the egregious part of that statement. The counter sniper team that ultimately took out the guy too late because they didn't get the green light to fire. They were positioned on an identically sloped roof the woman contradicted herself and there are about 900 videos out there of that roof they were stationed on if you look at photos of the secret service snipers on the white house the pitch of that roof is almost 35 degrees. So her excuses are just preposterous.

Does she need to go? Absolutely. She needs to go. And let me tell you why. Everybody's saying, well, she worked at Pepsi. No, no, no. This woman spent 27 years at the Secret Service prior to taking that global security job at PepsiCo. Her last gig at Secret Service as an assistant director was, she was the deputy commanding officer of the presidential detail training unit. She knew the protocols. She knew exactly what to do and not do. Never trained her people.

It never trickled down to the staff. Yeah. This is all really disturbing. And the fact that people are dead and they just go oh well what are you going to do you know yeah it's the bucks buck stops with me and then then the buck has no meaning or so i don't know how to pull that metaphor together but but it's it's such an odd situation we're in these days so they now are going to expand coverage for rfk jr do we know these budget issues again that it feels a little sinister that they would restrict the the care of a former president is there anything sinister to be seen

in these budgetary considerations and what is going to be the situation going forward given that former president trump is now the candidate allegedly gets more coverage that way, and RFK Jr. apparently is going to get some coverage as well. Yeah, so, you know, with the budgeting, where those budget issues really start to create problems are when they combine with the wokeism. And I know we can harp on this, but this really isn't a platitude, Drew, and I'm not being hyperbolic,

because what we're seeing law enforcement agencies do, we're seeing it at the FBI, right? We're seeing glaring problems there. We see it in the intelligence agencies. But Secret Service is unique in that their mission is so critical, protecting the president, the first lady, the vice president, their families, right? Because if you can hit the U.S. president, then you're hitting the ultimate symbol of global power.

So it's so critical. They do their job well. And what these agencies are doing is, for example, they're taking the tactical and high liability training away, but they're going to cut hours out of that and train them on things like diversity, American sign language, you know, handling potential threats that might have disabilities. I mean, it's truly bizarre. It's truly bizarre. I was being tongue in cheek, but I put up a post on X this morning and I was mocking the radio net, saying the local cop said, hey, we've got a man with a gun on the roof and him being admonished

by the Secret Service. Don't assume his gender. Stay off the radio until you know his pronouns. And I was joking about it, but that's essentially what's happening in these agencies. And so when you divert funds and you divert time from the high liability training, the clearing the rooms, that choreography to get him off that stage. I mean, the fact that they let Trump stand up there with his head exposed is just infuriating. We have this now iconic photo of him holding his fist up. It's an amazing photo. It's going to go down in history alongside Iwo Jima, the raising of the flag on Iwo Jima, but it never should have happened. It never should have happened. He should have been tossed off that stage, carried off, thrown into that vehicle and evacuated.

Yeah. Have you seen the footage of Reagan? Reagan also, you forget because he was shot. He also had somebody attack him on a stage. And you see the Secret Service sweep in and take him off. And I know, Caleb, maybe you can find that footage. A glass breaks, and this guy runs up on stage. I mean, the whole thing is gone in 10 seconds maybe five seconds but but

there there's a there's a i i kind of weirdly mixed feelings about this because on one hand great bring a bunch of women to the secret service but no you can't have somebody smaller than president for trying to protect and carry what if he'd been hit that those who are going to carry him off the state i mean so i mean as we if you're, if you're a Gutfeld fan, somebody pointed and said something to me, that was a great metaphor. They go, is Kat Timf going to cover Tyrus if he's being shot at? I mean, you know, this is not going to happen. So, so if they're going to, so it may be put,

maybe Caleb, you can find me some pictures of my friends, Kat and Tyrus. If, if, if they're not going to, if they're going to have lots of women in the secret service they can't have them doing these certain functions if they're not the same size as a 64240 male look that was protocol and as far as i know it still is protocol so what you're saying isn't isn't some outrageous non-woke statement the protocol has always been has always been you need to be taller than your protectee look when bill borr was attorney general i was actually at trump hotel one night and uh the attorney general came

in with there's cat and tyrus cat cat weighs 90 105 pounds wet tyrus is two god knows what i don't know 280 260 65 come on to be fair those super those agents were pretty big they were pretty yeah but they were he but they were and they and they put themselves in harm's way this is why i have mixed feelings about it but they were not able to cover a 64240 male well the guy that tackled him was did a full football tackle that that but and knocked his shoes off but that well that's a guy but the female agents the female agents i mean you had the one who didn't even had a holster her weapon i mean that she was running around then then she she didn't know she couldn't holster her weapon without looking after three tries i heard about that and then did was she did but she was not she was a dhs agent right she was not a secret service

she might have been security investigations hsi yeah another agency but the worst part of that was if you notice when she drew her firearm she couldn't get it in the holster she started flagging the backs of her teammates she was sweeping them with the muzzle I mean it was just egregious right but it's always been so when Bill Barr came in that night he had a male agent a female agent but the female agent who we wound up chatting with she was a good 5'11 she was taller than him she was fit that's fine that's fine yeah but these women were a foot shorter than trump well listen i promise to let you go at 20 minutes last question do you think they were testing oh no no this isn't what i wanted to show uh caleb that's the shooting of reagan which again i was a little i was a little disappointed that the Uzis didn't come out like they did when Reagan was shot.

There were three Uzis like that. But no, when he's on stage, it's a dark, it's close up on his face, and a guy shows up on stage with him. Last question, do you think they rehearsed together? Did they just didn't adequately rehearse? The ballet you're talking about, had it been rehearsed, or they just didn't even have the that the ballet you're talking about had it been rehearsed or they just didn't even have the ballet the the choreography set yet no because they they hadn't

all trained together that's not something you can do in a day that's something that is repetitive repetitive repetitive that to me that that that i think is good when the day is done you're going to find that that is the a major major major shortfall. Forget, oh, this is a video of what was happening and how close we got to catastrophe there. My God, it's just breathtaking when you really see it happening. All right, John, listen, it's great to see you, my friend. We'll come down. Are you way down south in Florida now?

Fort Lauderdale. We're down there a bit. Oh, yeah. We'll come visit. 20 minutes out of Miami, wherever you are. All right, we'll visit you, my friend. All right, talk soon. Thank you, sir. Good to see Oh, yeah. We'll come visit. 20 minutes out of Miami, wherever you are. All right. We'll visit you, my friend. All right.

Talk soon. Thank you, sir. Good to see you, Drew. Take care. You bet. Thanks, John. John Cardillo. Follow him on X, John Cardillo.

It's John with an H-C-A-R-D-I-L-L-O. So our next guest, let me do a little intro so I can properly do my job. Zach, as I said, was a Google whistleblower. He wrote a book about it. The book will be up on the screen here in a second, I'm sure. He was a senior software engineer at YouTube Google for eight and a half years. His official bio you can find at Zach, Z-A-C-H, Voorhees, V-O. I think he had two O's in his name.

No, it's two E's, V-O-R-r-h-i-e-s sorry i beg your pardon i think i always i think i spell his name with two o's sometimes oh boy um yeah okay well that's why i may be following somebody that was the improper person but he had the balls to come out during the pandemic when everything was going haywire at YouTube. Yes. He was talking about censorship. Before anybody else. Right. And he has been very vocal about a lot of things. For instance.

One of the things Susan would appreciate. He is saying that although Western global alliances. Have been trying mightily. China is sovereign. And I've seen a lot of stuff flying around today about china preparing for various aspects of biowarfare and ai and i figured zach would have something to say about that i do want to get back into the assassination attempt as well uh you can follow on Twitter, I believe. Yes. Jeff. His ex is Perpetual Maniac. Perpetual Maniac.

So welcome the Perpetual Maniac. Zach, welcome. Thank you, Dr. Drew. It's good to see you again. Good to see you again. So I just want to get your take. What we'll do is we'll talk a little bit about the um the assassination attempt and the press response and the secret service response there's so much there's so much packed into it

but give me your just your 30,000 foot overview um i've looked at the details of this it just seems so um it's just so improbable all these different things that there's a guy who climbs up he's spotted by police he's spotted by bystanders they're pointing him out the Secret Service is like what do we do?

Turns out that the Secret Service was actually a temporary Secret Service it turns out that there was Secret Service counter snipers on the rooftops that had him in their sights and apparently

this isn't confirmed that they were given not to have the kill order until the guy fired and then they returned fire. And that was the end of that. So how do we, how do we figure that one out? Everyone keeps saying that couldn't be true. It's not true. It all, it came off Fortran or something. How does that get ruled out as a possibility of the sniper that killed the assassin had to wait until there were shots fired before he got the clearance? Or was that in his head what his orders were, I wonder? Well, you know, as time goes on, stuff becomes more clear right now. You know, we're waiting to see if the sniper will come out and tell us what he said. i do not

believe what was put out by 4chan i think that that was disinfo because the guy clearly gave his name in the 4chan post if he's going to do that he might as well just come out in public and say it he's not doing that right and so for a while it looks like we're not going to know the truth at all all right uh and so it it's improbable. There was incompetence. There was chain of command issues. There was, as John Cardillo just told us, the personnel. There were personnel issues. There's budgetary issues. I don't know. We add all that up. That's sort of enough for things to go haywire, that's for sure. But the thing that for me um a couple things sort of are big ha question marks you know over my over my the thought bubble over my head one was they seem to have scoured the

assassins uh websites and phones and things and aren't finding very much that's a little bit of a huh at the same time as you're hearing that well maybe you got something to tell me, so fine. At the same time that Iran is now being accused of having an active plan to kill the president. So where are we? I mean, they can't even get into his phone, right? They're saying, oh, we can't get into his phone at all. He had no social media. It's almost like he's a ghost. And I think that this was planned. I also think that it was planned that this assassination attempt was not going to be successful because the military industrial complex doesn't mess around. When they want you dead, you're dead. And this idea that they wouldn't have multiple snipers out there that could take them out as

an insurance policy, or maybe even have a plan c with a head tracking kill drone doesn't really make any sense for me and i want to show you something really quickly um and that is that this was reagan's map right after um his assassination attempt and so it went all red i i believe and a lot of people won't agree with me on this, but I believe that the deep state is basically setting up for a second Trump presidency. Facebook last week said that they were going to unban Trump and allow him back on. And you see a bunch of these reversals across social media. So it's clear to me that they're opening up the door for Trump. They're clearly imploding Biden. There was that unnecessary debate that was way earlier. It was almost historic. They usually don't have debates until the nominees are chosen. And instead,

they had it before the nomination all the way in June. What's up with that? Why would they do that? There's a bunch of weird stuff around there. It seems clear to me that they're preparing the way in June. What's up with that? Why would they do that? There's a bunch of weird stuff around there. It seems clear to me that they're preparing the way for a second Trump presidency in 2024. Let me propose an alternative sort of explanation and you shoot it down, which I'm sure you will, which is that for lack of a better model, I'm going to use the Overton window and say, maybe the Overton window is actually shifting. And people who have been, this 20% of people that get into the mass psychosis

and become hypnotized are sort of shifting out of it. They're prone to go, that group is prone to go where the winds blow. If something is becoming popular, the Overton window shifts, they go with it. They're prone to go, that group is prone to go where the winds blow. If something is becoming popular, the Overton window shifts, they go with it. They're the ones that went with COVID, whatever. They're the people we have to watch out for and not listen to. But I think an example of some evidence for this is the situation with Tenacious D. And by the way, I saw that Tim Pool accepted Jack Black's apology and said Tenacious D should continue their tour,

and I actually agree with that completely. Those are good guys. They're funny guys. They're good musicians. They're a great group. They got swept into this nonsense and were snapped out of their spell of their trance because of the reaction of people. Now that the Overton window has shifted.

Hey guys, that's not cool anymore. That was cool six months ago. That's not cool. What? What? Oh, okay. I won't do that anymore. Guys, let's let's I apologize.

That's the Overton window shifting. And could that explain the whole thing? Or is that even what I'm seeing? I mean, I think that's what you're seeing, right? Like an assassination attempt is no laughing matter. And these leftists are still making jokes like this is a universally accepted thing that Trump should get shot in the head. And there's a lot of people that are fans of Trump now. They've seen what the last four years have done with Biden. We've been brought to the edge of World War III. Taxes have gotten higher. Inflation's out of control. People complain about Trump, but everyone was pretty much getting richer with their 401ks until this uh plandemic hit um in you know uh 2020 and

so uh i mean i would definitely trade anything to get those years back relative to what happened us for you know i i want you to give me an after the break i want you to give me a little update on the plandemic as you call it. And it's been probably a year and a half since we've spoken, I think. And a lot of things have clarified themselves. A lot of thinking has moved in various directions. I want to get an update from you on what you think has happened with what we've learned in the intervening time. Caleb, do you want to show that video now or after the break?

We have a video of all the- Show it now, because it's applicable to what you guys were just talking about, where it's one side seems to act like- Let's finish this conversation. Yeah. So this is a bigger time.

You know what? No, no. We're going to do it after the break. We're going to stay, you can even roll back in with this tape and I have some things to say about it. Because here we have the President of the United States getting on air on Sunday and going

cool it everybody, cool it everybody. Then the next night with Lester Holtz goes well he's a threat to democracy. What am I supposed to do? How can I cool it if this guy's Hitler? Oh for God's sakes. So okay. We're going to take a little break. Zach Voorhees is here with me. And don't leave.

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He's written a book on his years as a Google whistleblower. Caleb, maybe you want to throw that up just so we keep pushing that out. And I'm guessing before we play this tape about we're going to do a mashup of all the the descriptions of Trump is the end of end of life on this planet. Essentially, was was this period of censorship in covid? Is that primarily what you're documenting or are there other censorship in the Google leaks book? Basically, it was the unleashing of an AI censorship weapon called machine learning fairness. And it was something that Google was hiding from the public. They put out this sort of program called Project Dragonfly that was supposed to be censoring the Chinese. And then that's actually how I started digging into this thing because I was like, what is Project Dragonfly? Turns out that

was a ghost project. There was no trace of that thing even existed, but there was this huge thing called machine learning fairness. And as soon as I saw the name, I said, if I was a totalitarian, I would call it something warm and fuzzy like this. And as I started to dig in, I started to realize that they were classifying objective truth as something that should be algorithmically unfair and filtered out by their algorithms. And so I realized that if this were to be completely unleashed and the public didn't know about it, it would be the end of democracy. So I decided to sacrifice my career and let the public know. And I did that through Project Veritas. And yet they have unleashed all that. The various companies have unleashed maybe more and worse things on us in the name of this, let's call it what it is, a totalitarian overreach for our safety. And I have an apology to make, by the way. I've been saying for a while that Robespierre's committee

that perpetrated the terror during the French Revolution, all the heads that were chopped off on behalf of his committee, I kept saying was the Committee for Public Safety. I was looking at it yesterday. I thought, oh no, it's not the Committee of Public Safety. It's the Committee for Public Health and Well-Being. And it's like that is the excuse that government, totalitarian governments use to do horrible things. And that's exactly what happened in this case, too. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know, it's funny. They called it Project Dragonfly because everyone's like, ooh, that's scary.

It's a scary insect, right? And it didn't even exist. The whole thing was a way better name. So let's talk about what happened here with the rhetoric. In a second, we're going to play a mashup of some of the rhetoric that people were using. I haven't seen this yet, so I don't know what's in it. But I did see a president get on the horn, get on the airwaysay night and say hey we got to turn everything turn this down everybody's got to turn this down everybody okay and then he gets in front of an interview with both a gen z-er which he was even more obtuse but that one thankfully wasn't broadcast on television and lester holtz and l Holtz goes don't you think some of your rhetoric might be a little

bit extreme here as well and he's like well I know I guys is threat to democracy so what am I supposed to do it's like what okay if you were a time traveler and you could go back to 1935 and meet Hitler in a room you would try to kill him

and there are people that are goofy today that if they're thoroughly convinced that this is hitler they're gonna go do such at least try to do something by the way i read something on the restream i don't know if this is accurate or not that's they found a shooter outside the republican national convention please let's get that confirmed if that's true but let's watch this mashup and then zach and i will talk more about the um i said no i said if we're in high school i'd take you behind the gym and beat the hell out of them i will go and take trump out tonight too many see the protests as the problem please show me where it says that protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful go to the hill today get up in the face of some congress people and if you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant

you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them and you tell them they're not welcome running away from donald trump i think you need to go back and then punch him in the face they go low you know there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there's unrest in our lives they're still going to have to go out and put a bullet in Donald Trump. And that's a fact. You're going to have to put a bullet in him. And I would argue that even that stuff you could dismiss as rhetorical excess. But the actual imagery and the implication of him being Hitler repeatedly,

it's on the cover of magazines, that implies you have a moral obligation to do something to that man. Zach. Yeah. I mean, they've been bringing up the rhetoric for a very long time, right? Basically saying that he is Hitler, which to a lot of people, it's like, did Hitler try to restrict government and cut taxes? No, he tried to expand government. He was a socialist. He was pretty much as left-wing as you can get, but with elements of nationalism with his policy. And for someone like that, I've been pretty much looking at that sort of batting an eye going, come on, Trump is nothing like this.

I don't necessarily like the guy, but I don't think that he's nearly as bad as they make him out to be. And so they've been doing this rhetoric for a very long time, sort of like pre-programming the people that this is the worst thing that could ever happen. And now we get into the state where he takes a bullet to the ear and all of a sudden they're doing the rug pull. They're saying, oh, we got to like tone it down. We can't say all this like bad stuff because, you know, we'll open up our society to assassination of our leaders. You know, today it was Trump, tomorrow it could be Biden. And so this really paves the way to allow Trump to not be criticized with the sort of rhetoric by the left as he has been exposed to over the last four years. And yet Biden is, although he didn't bring up Hitler,

went back to threat to democracy, threat to our life as we know it, end of the world. He's still, I'm worried that his people may be urging him not to do that. But if indeed he has significant cognitive change, it's difficult for him, if this is true, to learn new material and he will fall back on over-learned material, things he's said a thousand times before, which is a very characteristic thing of minimal cognitive change and dementia.

And I'm suspicious something like that may be going on. Right. And there's this implosion by the left right now with Biden clearly showing that he has cognitive decline, probably early dementia, getting out there, messing up, basically saying a word salad. It's the implosion of the left. And now they've taken the teeth out of their rhetoric. And so I think that there's going to be a Trump presidency in 2024. I think that this is a really good thing because the Western global alliance needs to change course. And the reason is that it comes down to energy. China is laying down coal. They're laying down new exotic nuclear technologies to vastly improve the supply of energy. And the reason is because China is in it to win it

in the AI arms race. And if we don't catch up, we're going to just be history. Fusion too. I really feel like that's the other place they're putting their energy. And that's brilliant, right? I mean, energy is everything. It's security, it's everything. If you can really solve that problem and they are not renowned for sharing their technologies and yet they are

renowned for stealing whatever they need to get those technological leaps that they want to get. Yeah. And there's a bunch of exotic fission technologies like fast breeder reactors, thorium, which breeds its own uranium-233, which is then able to produce vast amounts of energy. You could say that we've been stuck for half a century with old technology that is expensive, highly regulated, can produce plutonium. And these newer fission

reactors do not produce nuclear bombs, but they do consume instead of 1% of the energy, 96% of the available energy in its fuel source. And so we've had this sort of thing where the future of energy has been suppressed now for 50 years. And China being, as far as I can see, a sovereign state, has said, you know what, we're just going to not go that way anymore. We're just going to ignore the West. We're going to produce all the power that we need to win this AI arms race. And I think that this climate change thing where we have to use solar panels and wind to have a subsidence energy supply, I think that's going to go out the window.

I think that the Western Global Alliance is preparing to have an order more magnitude of power generation that's going to come online in the next decade. We have to. These models that we have for artificial intelligence requires more and more power just to double in size. I mean, it's not like you put down double the power, you could have double the size of the AI models.

It's like to get a doubling of the AI models, you have to put down four times as much power. And whoever has the biggest models, whoever has the biggest models- Yeah, I get it. But when I look at the political wrangling going on in France right now, I see no evidence that they're going to give up their climate philosophy. Or what should we call it? Climate, I don't know what it is. It's not science right now.

But the left there is refusing to form any coalitions with anybody unless they go full throttle on that. So I don't know. I'm hopeful that you're right. It sort of almost has to be right. I mean, there'll be forces at work here that force things in a certain direction. Let's give me your update, if you don't mind, on COVID and what you have learned since we last spoke.

I think we were sort of barely hinting at lab leaks. I'm seeing a lot more chatter about bioweapons now and about antidotes. And now we have bird flu on the loose, which to me seems, if it does break into humans, it seems to me they must be manipulating that virus. What are your thoughts? Well, let's get to the most important thing yet, which is, are we going to have a bird flu pandemic that is going to hit right in time for the election? And my analysis on this is no. And the reason why is because if they were going to do that, they would have already

kicked it off. They're not having really important conferences like the Event 201. There is a conference coming up, but it's not sponsored by the bad guys. Is that true? I looked at that conference. It's a big one. It's in Washington and it's a thousand dollars to go. Is that the one you're talking about? Yeah, I believe so. And when I looked at who was sponsoring it, who was talking about it, the event tool one, which is the reference that I'm using that preceded the COVID pandemic,

it was sponsored by Bill Gates, the WEF. It basically had a who's who of all the bad guys that were talking. When I looked at this new conference coming up, I believe it's in October. It was basically people that I've never heard of before looking like they were fighting for relevance. I looked at that and I said, this doesn't seem like something that's being funded and pushed very strongly by the globalists. And so I don't think- That's good to hear. It's good to hear, except the agenda looked identical to some of the globalist ideas.

And I thought to myself, well, certainly they're going to have their promotional booths, Pfizer, Moderna, who knows from the whatever disguised World Health Organization. They will be there. But I agree. I couldn't find any evidence that they were putting money into it, at least in a public way. Well, keep in mind that there's usually a conference every single year about some sort of pandemic risk and planning. And so if you're saying, well, it's going to happen again this year well it happened pretty much every single year the difference that i've seen is who is attending this conference and i don't see that you know the classic i love it bad guys okay that is good news

um but if you want to talk about the pandemic like it's pretty much the same thing i've been saying like a year and a half ago uh you knowoweapons leak from Wuhan, probably intentional to kick off a crisis within the entire world. It gave them justification to get their mRNA technology out there and inject it into every single person. I'm glad to see that we've all sort of woken up together. I know I was a little bit ahead of the curve. People thought that I was a little bit out there, but over time, it looks like I was right on the money. And what's really interesting is, you know, I've watched you for a while, Dr. Drew. I've watched like Jimmy Dore. And what I've noticed is that it seems like there's this pattern where the podcasters are all shifting from the left.

I won't really call you right wing, but it's more like you're not leftist. You're not buying into the collective narrative that the media is shoveling at our faces. And there's a lot more critical thinking that's going on. And I think that we're all a little bit more skeptical. Like we just had an assassination attempt and you've invited me on to talk about, you know, what are the possible alternative theories that are out there? So I think that that's a really good sign. I love all of the critical thinking. I think that that's very healthy for democracy. Yeah, I agree with you. And it's slow and subtle, so it's hard to remember. I was talking to Adam Carolla this morning about it,

and he said he reminded me of an interview I had with Barbara Boxer and her daughter. And I was asking about charter schools and vouchers and stuff. And they gave me a non-answer, essentially. Like, oh, the 1980s are calling Adam. Tell him to revisit some more modern ideas than vouchers. And today, when I hear that, when they divert in these ridiculous ways,

I have a physical reaction. I have disgust meets anger. And I would never sit with that. And at that interview, which was 10 years ago, I was like, okay, well, next question. I was like, no, no, no, no, no. Also, as far as the press goes, I don't believe anything from any of the press ever.

I don't know what's real and what's not. I've gotten completely all the way into skepticism on all fronts, in all sources, at all times. Now, I can be convinced of things. I can be persuaded of things. And I look in all regions for sources to try to understand what's going on. But I don't claim to trust anybody or to have arrived at a – like, look at the assassination attempt. You've given me some information. I'm going to think about it. Maybe.

I don't know. And, by the way, I used to think of you as kind of a COVID radical. Now you seem like sort of a COVID moderate. That's just sort of the evidence that's coming in now pretty much supports what you were saying. Yeah, it's like the Overton window has now expanded so much that I don't even know where the edges are. It's like we're pretty much willing to accept

and consider anything as a possibility. Zach, do you still believe viruses are real? Yeah, of course. Okay, so see, now that's where the window has moved. Now there's people that, it's not like they doubt that the moon landing ever happened. They doubt that the moon is even real at all.

Like that's, it's moved that far. So you've turned into the center. Well, I have some medication to help those people. I think it might be time. But if you are all the way detached from reality, which, by the way, I can't blame them for being, that's not a good place to be. And hey, maybe it's a good thing.

Like, notice what you just said, Drew. It's like now you question everything that the media says, where before the pandemic, it was very different. I think a lot of people are doing that same thing. So cheers to them. I do have a quick question for Zach about that, though. Go ahead. I'm curious on that same line about the people

that are trying to push the idea that it's a false flag attack or something that was orchestrated by Trump's own people. It's never made sense to me because it seems like it's one millimeter, one hair off, and then everything is done. And by the way, Caleb, play the video, if you don't mind, of Trump turning his head. You had it up earlier. Because Zach, you also earlier said

that when it's a military organization, they don't miss and they have secondary sort of snipers up there. But look how close they came. This is actual footage of the bullets going by his head. That's what was supposed to happen. He turned his head, boom. And he stayed there for three bullets.

Two, that's the one that hit his ear. And three. Wow. I never saw that. No, it's crazy. It's super duper crazy. Maybe that's the one that hit his ear. I mean, this is an AR-15 bullet, right?

It's an automatic rifle. It's going to really graze his ears. They're going to blow it off. It's a good point. That's what made me question. That's the only thing I've questioned. What he just said is about an AR-15 bullet going that fast would blow off parts of the side of his face

going at that speed that close. That seems to be the expectation. Maybe it wasn't the bullet hitting. Maybe it was just the air being blown by that tore his ear. It might not have been the bullet. Have you seen the injury that they showed on the media? I mean, it looks almost like he took a BB right here where the ear attaches to the upper part of the head. And it doesn't like, if it was a near miss, what I would expect is that the outside of the ear would have been blown off, but it looks like he took a BB right here and that he's got a cut.

And so I can't really be able to rectify what it is, what they're saying on the narrative with the pictures that they're showing on the media. It just, it, none of this makes any sense. And I don't pretend to know exactly what happened. The only thing I'm pointing out is that this is a magic trick. And what do you make of the, there's people saying that something, you know, is a fragment and something erupted from something else. And those are all possibilities, I suppose. But what's going on with the perpetrator? Do you have a theory about him? Perpetrator? I mean, he's just some patsy.

There's no information about him. Apparently, he was a ghost. He had no social media profile. Everyone's got a Facebook or an Instagram or a Twitter or whatever, and we don't have any information about him. The FBI couldn't get into his phone. Like, come on. Sorry, I have an update.

No. Sorry, I have an update on that. They actually did. They did say that they got into his phone, but didn't find anything of useful value in it. So it's pretty much the same thing. They got into it. And by the way, I saw an interview with a kid that was his classmate from high school, or at least a year behind him.

And he was flipping out pretty completely he was like well this this kid was you know nice and a loner and was bullied regularly uh so i'm sure that's going to be what's blamed for his um proclivities um but really nothing no bank account no no any well that's what i started thinking i started thinking well if you're an iran Iranian operative and you're looking for somebody, a patsy, as you call it, somebody soft, and you offer them a lot of money, who knows what you can get somebody to do? I don't know. That's an interesting thought, Susan. And maybe that disappeared magically also.

But be that as it may, did you analyze the course of events? I mean, if you're other than I mean, if you look at all the failures of the Secret Service that I went over with John Cardillo, did you have anything further to say about that beyond what he saw? Yeah, I mean, I actually took some notes. The

rundown is that the Secret Service was not the regular Secret Service, but a substitute. You may remember that that woman couldn't put, couldn't holster her weapon. That's because she wasn't a regular Secret Service person. So the crowd was pointing out the shooter for 30 minutes to the police as this guy was climbing up.

The counter snipers on the roof had the shooter in their sights for literally minutes. There was a police officer who climbed onto the roof and confronted the guy, but he pointed the gun at him, and so he got down from the roof. There was a ladder that happened to be placed where the sniper needed to get up in order to get into position.

And, you know, is that just all coincidence? I mean, I don't think so. I think that, you know, all these improbable events mixed together show that this was some sort of operation that was supposed to produce this show that we saw the other day. Oh, so you think it was supposed to have the outcome it did. It wasn't some operation that was actually designed to kill him. No, I think it was intentional. He blew off some other guy's head. What about the guy that died?

I mean, look, they have to make it convincing so that people will buy into it. Like I said. He might be on to... So if we want to follow this direction and we think about how advanced and then they have pretty much unlimited funds of either it's a foreign government or our own

government or some shadow government that wants to make this happen. You always keep in mind that they have technology that they don't let us know about. So it could be just a, there was also a water tower that was nearby. Now I'm not questioning. I watched the videos. It looks like what they're saying happened, happened.

But they've also said a lot of stuff before and it turned out to not be the way that they told us it happened. I'm just curious, Zach, who do you think is most likely to have orchestrated this? Because Trump has benefited greatly from this whole thing. Like him, the near miss has very, it's energized his base and people that weren't his base have been energized by this and taken a closer look at this guy

I'm curious who do you think would have planned it this way and then to miss him like that like that's a lot of moving parts to pull off it was like Putin said that the best way to control the opposition is to run it

ourselves I think that one of the biggest mistakes I made was believing that Trump was necessarily against the establishment. I don't think that anymore. I do think that he's controlled opposition. And I think that this back and forth, this rug pulling, all these surprises that keep on happening. I think that both Biden and Trump are actually, at the end of the day, working for different factions of the same group. So I don't necessarily think that Trump is legitimate opposition. The big reason why I believe that is because they had a knife to our proverbial throat in 2020. And then

Elon Musk bought Twitter and they didn't stop it. And all of a sudden, we've been allowed to sort of resurrect ourselves and come back through all these improbable things. And I've looked at it like on a technical aspect, they had us. Like they had us down. We were ready to tap out. They've allowed us to come back. The only way that that can be explained is if the right right wing is also uh controlled opposition and that uh at the end of the day they're all working together so i think that that's uh you know it's above trump's pay grade who organized this zach other than uh perpetual maniac where would you like

people to follow you uh you can see all my google leaks at ZachBorges.com. Come see how the sausage was made with censorship at Google. Perpetual Maniac was my gamer tag. It just sort of morphed into my activist tag, so I apologize for that. Yeah, follow me on Twitter.com slash Perpetual Maniac.

That's where I drop all the newest intel. You're not always going to like what I say, but I am more right than pretty much anyone else that has commentary on Twitter. So check it out. Zach Forgues, everybody. Thank you so much for being with us. Thank you, Dr. Drew. It's a pleasure.

You bet. So I want to talk a little bit about the RNC for a second. I don't know how many of you saw Amber Rose last night. I thought she did a really impressive job and was extraordinarily impactful. She told a story about her dad challenging her to prove that Trump was a racist, and she realized she had been brainwashed.

And I just thought she did. Susan, did you see that as well? Mm-hmm. You think it was that? I just for some reason thought it was terribly impactful. Am I getting? No, she told her truth, and it was impactful well then the other thing i'm seeing today is a bunch of x uh videos of particularly women saying particularly african

american women crying and saying oh there's amber at the at the podium there um crying and saying oh my god i i didn't realize i'm watching these people at the RNC and they're not these old white men villains I thought they were. There's a bunch of women there and Amber's there. And I think somebody's been brainwashing me. Yeah, I think somebody's been brainwashing me. I can't believe this. And they seem like they're nice people and they're not satanic is what I thought. And to me, this is all kind of the weird Overton window shifting

in terms of understanding that the press has been lying and brainwashing and also, you know, arriving at your own conclusions about things. These people are not going to be Republicans, but at least you can treat other Americans as sentient beings that have their own thoughts about things. So I don't know. To me, there's something happening. I hope it continues in that direction somebody's asking can you please tell me what happened to pavilions I don't know what that means

the grocery store? I don't know get this so the first day of the RNC happened yesterday Drew and the only speech that I actually watched was Amber Rose's I looked it up because I saw it trending on Twitter I went and watched it and it felt very moving to me. So think about that. I watched this political stuff all day prepping for shows, but the only speech that I actually took time to watch

all the way through was Amber's. I think there's a lot of other people that are doing the same thing just out of curiosity to see why is Amber Rose at the RNC? I think she's going to convert a lot of votes. Well, not only is it odd or curious that she was there, but her delivery, it is not, listen, I was watching, I was thinking to myself the whole time, like David Sachs is a guy I know, and he's a brilliant dude, and his speech was packed with stuff, but it didn't have the same natural quality and impact of just delivery that Amber had, even though her speech was not nearly as packed with material. And I thought, man, it's got to be so hard. Think about you're standing in a stadium with people yelling and screaming and talking, and you have to get up

there and deliver something that punches. It's a job and knowing that you're you're walking into a room of people that before she converted over to this side all of these people pretty much hated her and thought that she was one of the the worst personalities on television they all looked down on her is that true oh yeah yeah oh a lot of people everyone they i mean go look at the commentary look at the commentary that's happening afterwards on X. It's all like half and half. Even the people attacking Harmeet Dhillon after that as well. It's like a half and half. Did Harmeet speak yesterday?

She gave a benediction, a Sikh benediction. And because it didn't really fall in line with the Judeo-Christian stuff, then a lot of the people were like, oh, the RNC has fallen and all of this other nonsense. When it's like, if you actually, a lot of the people defending her were like, look what she has sacrificed her career for this cause. She's been so much, she was on this show. She's amazing. She's a real fighter. But if you're not familiar with her, then everyone just wanted to complain. But these are the type of fighters that we need. If they want to get votes, they've got to bring these people in. And when you say we, wait, pavilions are outdoor

concerts. Yes, I know what a pavilion is, but did something happen at a pavilion that's in the pavilions? I just find it interesting that... Oh, Carrie Lake is speaking at the RNC right now. Whatever Zach said. Our friend Carrie Lake.

I don't know. All this conspiracy stuff really bothers me. I think that is speaking at the RNC right now. Whatever Zach said, it kind of, I don't know. All this conspiracy stuff really bothers me. I think that this guy was quick on his feet. He was wearing an outfit that matched the building. He snuck up there. They didn't get the information to him fast enough, and he was just not a great guy trying to kill the president.

So you can think that it was planned. I don't think anybody would plan to do a miss like that. And they wanted to shoot his head off and behead him in front of America. That's my take on it. But I did say, why couldn't they see that? Now, if that was a plan from somebody else, maybe that could be but um you know they're they didn't set this up they didn't blow off a fireman's head in front

of his family to right to to make a point or win the election that that to me is just way too far fetched and it pisses me off but i also believe in divine intervention in case, and I'm so glad that somebody was watching out for this guy. And you're going to do a show on that on Thursday? Yeah, I mean, not really, but I do want to talk about it with my psychic mediums and what that means because, you know, spiritually, this is a big deal. And we saw the feelings and the love of the family that was with Trump, and everybody was tearing up when he came out. God bless him for being alive and making it there with this bandage on his ear,

which must not have been comfortable, and just soaking in the moment and living and still going out and shaking people's hands. By the way, people were complaining, oh my God, look at him with that big thing on his ear. Look, I dress ears. That's how you dress an ear. I told Susan that he should come in with a, normally we'd wrap the whole thing around their head.

And I was surprised he didn't have that. I told him he should come in with a piccolo. You know, Drew, Susan actually brings up a really good point. I was going to say this, and she's the first person that I've heard actually voice some sort of empathy for, wait, how is Trump doing in all of this? This guy literally just got a bullet whizzed past his ear. Can you imagine how traumatizing that is? That's wild. Listen, as you know, I'm neutral on these. I work with i work with rfk jr susan supports him thoroughly we're sort of neutral on trump i'm worried about biden's bill i don't think he's in charge of things i worry

about that i'm very very moderate as i've said a million times but he i saw eric trump talking about this today and he said he eric was changed and his dad was definitely changed and you could see when amber was talking i re-watched the amber um interview with susan and he started tearing up trump did at amber's sort of touching story i thought wow this is a i'm curious what he's going to say when he does get up to the podium because he claims he threw away a 20-page speech that was going to be a a an extreme an extreme uh discussion about the excess the problems he sees now he says he's going to be an extreme discussion about the problems he sees. Now he says he's going to switch to a conversation about unity. And so Caleb, when you said something about we need this,

I was thinking to myself, well, I think you're thinking about the right, but I think about the country. I think about the American people need this. We need this. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I think now it's almost, it's a choice between, it's the old guy that we can all tell is fading and needs to go and spend time with his family. And this other old guy who's just a better choice

that it doesn't matter. You don't have to like him. It's just, these are the choices. Kennedy would probably be the best option. He may want to go be with his family too right you know maybe now it's like no one's even asking that question it's like well no one's

that's the most bizarre part of it to me is that he's a character now and no one pauses to think maybe today he doesn't want to be president anymore after that and they're having to encourage him behind the like can you imagine being shot at like that surviving and then having to like go on stage the next day yeah their death experiences are not they change you for life uh juglitz pinsky is texting me

saying that the pavilion is where trump spoke he thinks that's what i was thinking i don't know what's going on at the pavilion maybe you guys can can tell me. I'm watching the Rumble rant. But this guy was up on the roof. It was very low. That was the first thing I said. I was like, look how low that roof is. How did they not see him? With JFK and the fact that they're both so exposed

and the CIA has been implicated in both. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what to make of all that. Maybe we have a really left-wing police department over there. But I think there is an important message in all this, which is just be open to anything.'t don't and don't jump to a conspiracy don't because there's a random series of events that seem unlikely doesn't mean there has to be a human error exists oh boy does

it oh boy and it's it's not just for women just because a woman was in charge there was probably men there too who overlooked it you know they're They're like blaming the woman who was in charge, but there is human error in this situation, and pinpointing who was the worst human in this moment is the hard part. Adrian says, the world is being deceived. It gets me so angry. What gets you angry? It's just like these are humans together he's you know everybody doesn't

realize that we're we're shooting somebody's head off in a in a public display that's that's not right this is america this should not be happening by the way uh susan had something interesting happening here there there's a lot of people reacting to you having psychics to talk about divine intervention. Why don't you bring some clergy in also so they can reconcile these? People have lots of different feelings about it and ideas about this kind of stuff. Just something to chew on maybe.

No? Yeah, sure. Not this week. I don't have one, but maybe in the future. All right, interesting. But thank you for your ideas. I appreciate it. And I think that's a change, too.

I mean, I just want to discuss it. I think something about being spiritual or whether you believe in Jesus or you're in Harmeet's thing, we all have our own gods to pray to. And in this circumstance, he was saved by the grace of God in my eyes. I don't know. I don't care which God. So, all right. Joseph Fryman in here tomorrow.

A lot has happened since we last spoke with him. He has got some great data on the mRNA vaccines. And he's asking for them to be pulled from the market that there is just too many side effects until they can be until the proper i think he's going to tell us so the appropriate randomized placebo controlled trials can be done uh he also is part of the hope um initiative is it what's called the hope trial it's a document that many many tens of thousands of people and professionals have signed on to now to ask for these vaccines again you can debate whether they are vaccines or not, to be withdrawn until appropriate study has been done. And perhaps the risk reward can,

that I do believe we will be using these things. I don't want them to throw the baby out with the bathwater, but we must understand the risks more thoroughly. So he and I are going to talk about that. Don't forget Dave Smith on July 23rd. Lots of people coming our way. Tommy Robinson, Harvey Reich coming on Thursday. And we'll be from New York. Is Dave going to come in the home with us on July 23rd? He's going to be there in New York with us?

He did that once before. Wait. Oh, is he on that day? He's on while we're in New York. That'll be interesting. We'll see if we can get him in. I'll ask him. After he finishes with the sk York. Oh. That'll be interesting. We'll see if we can get him in. I'll ask him. After he finishes with the skanks. The Legion of Skanks. One of the most extraordinary things to me is the different environments Dave Smith can operate in.

He does a show every Monday called Legion of Skanks. And then he's also doing his political commentary shows. Good for him. All right. Let me look at the comments here, see if there's anything underway for you guys that you're thinking about that i can comment on a lot of gun talk you know killing and guns and all that good stuff and who uh makes a good shot versus not i just i could not

you know focus the next day after seeing that we were with a bunch of kids at a baby reveal party, and it was like, oh my God, the president was almost assassinated, and we put on the TV, and I was like, what if he was assassinated? Would we have thrown the TV on in front of a bunch of six-year-olds? Would we have known that's what it was? Oh my gosh. I was thinking about it all day, and I was just like, I was four years old when Kennedy was assassinated.

And, you know, my mom used to leave the TV on all the time. So I got to see it, you know, at that age. Oh, you were one of those kids. But I remember how depressed the country was afterwards. I remember how upset everybody was. The whole world was crying. It was like 9-11. And this is a wake-up call so you know we need to just say

like biden said we need to stop this well back to biden saying that he's going to tone down the rhetoric he now the new york post uh emily just sent me this new york post has a headline let me read it to you once it comes through biden teases kamala harris quote could be president of the united states in a trump bashing naacp speech there's a lot in that um sort of raising her profile and let's see what he says about trump but donald trump presidency was hell for black america well when he came out and did his speech right afterwards um it was totally written by somebody and he was reading a teleprompter he cannot do an interview on his own without a teleprompter oh sure i've said it a million times and i seriously think that you know they're he they cannot let him have interviews with people anymore because it's just

it's going to make it worse. So there's a lot of, and his speech, a lot of Trump's a liar. A lot of Trump will end any progress for black America. And there you go. I think that's the direction they're going. And also the national ban on abortion will be a big issue as well. So,

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