Ask Dr. Drew - Trump’s CDC Nominee Defies RFK, Tells Senate mRNA Is “Safe & Effective” w/ Naomi Wolf – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 645

Episode Date: July 17, 2026

Dr. Erica Schwartz, Pres. Trump’s nominee to lead the CDC, told the Senate that mRNA vaccine “technology is safe and effective” – a position that puts her in direct opposition to Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., her potential future boss. Financial disclosures show Schwartz was paid over $1,000,000 by healthcare giant UnitedHealth. Naomi Wolf joins Dr. Drew to break down the shocking Senate hearing and what Schwartz’s nomination could mean for MAHA if she is confirmed. Brad Polumbo, host of the Brad vs Everyone podcast, discusses Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth’s new order requiring annual testosterone-deficiency screening for service members age 30 and older, and recent statements by Jenn Pellegrino, Chancellor of UC San Francisco, who testified under oath that a “vast majority of pregnancies are in women.” Naomi Wolf, Ph.D., is an independent journalist and co-founder and CEO of DailyClout.io. She edits The Pfizer Papers with Amy Kelly and authored Facing the Beast and War Room / DailyClout Pfizer Documents Analysis Volunteers’ Reports eBook. Follow at https://x.com/naomirwolf Brad Polumbo is a journalist and host of the Brad vs Everyone podcast on YouTube and Spotify. He is a Blankley Fellow at the Steamboat Institute. His work has appeared in USA Today, National Review, and Newsweek. Follow at https://x.com/brad_polumbo 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/fatty15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/paleovalley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twc.health/drew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • CHAPTER - For free and unbiased Medicare help, dial [phone] to speak with my trusted partner, Chapter, or go to ⁠⁠⁠https://askchapter.org/drdrew⁠⁠⁠ Chapter and its affiliates are not connected with or endorsed by any government entity or the federal Medicare program. Chapter Advisory, LLC represents Medicare Advantage HMO, PPO, and PFFS organizations and stand alone prescription drug plans that have a Medicare contract. Enrollment depends on the plan’s contract renewal. While we have a database of every Medicare plan nationwide and can help you to search among all plans, we have contracts with many but not all plans. As a result, we do not offer every plan available in your area. Currently we represent 50 organizations which offer 18,160 products nationwide. We search and recommend all plans, even those we don’t directly offer. You can contact a licensed Chapter agent to find out the number of products available in your specific area. Please contact Medicare.gov, 1-800-Medicare, or your local State Health Insurance Program (SHIP) to get information on all of your options. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Executive Producers • Kaleb Nation - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • Susan Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/firstladyoflove⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Content Producer • Emily Barsh - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/emilytvproducer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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told the Senate that MRNA vaccines are safe and effective, and I want to dissect what she possibly means by that. Of course, that's a job that reports directly to RFK, and I'll see how that's going to work out. She is making statements in opposition to her boss, and we may have some clues. There are people who paid her millions of dollars on her financial disclosures from the healthcare world.

Naomi Wolf joins us to discuss this and Pete Hegseth's announcement that soldiers over 30 now will be screened for testosterone level to be sure they have juiced we have juiced soldiers out in the field. Then Brad Palumbo comes in, host of Brad versus Everyone podcast,

discusses an unsettling exchange during a House committee meeting where Dr. Sam Hogood answered under oath that the vast majority of pregnancy are women, vast majority, some men can get pregnant.

Okay. It's all right. The problem here is that he's not just a random activist. He's the Chancellor of UC San Francisco School of Medicine, a pediatrician, a scientist, and his ideologies could influence,

well, certainly will influence the training of physicians. You can follow Naomi on X at Naomi R. Wolf. And Brad is Brad underscore Pullumbo, P-O-L-U-M-B-O. And we're back with Naomi. Right after this. Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre. The psychopaths start this.

He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction. Fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous. I'm a doctor for a second. Where the hell you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals.

Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Loveland all the time. Educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat. You have trouble. You can't stop and you want to help. Stop it. I can help. I got a lot to say. I got a lot more to say. Naomi Wolf is an independent journalist, co-founder and CEO of DailyClout.io. She edits the Pfizer Papers with Amy Kelly, authored Facing the Beast and War Room.

Daily Cloud, Pfizer documents, analysis, volunteers. She has the Pfizer report, Pfizer papers, rather. And, you know, Naomi is in here fairly frequent. I want to just review her library of contributions. The beauty myth was her breakthrough book, Landmark, Fire with Fire. This was a continuation of her feminist writings in the 90s. Promiscuities, personal culture history of women's

sexual coming of age. I know, I mean, I'm wondering what those books they sound, I mean, I long for a day when those books are people are talking about those things again. I miss those days. We lived in paradise

We just didn't know it. And talk to me a little bit about what you were doing there. So people understand how different things are now. What were you seeing and then what were you doing with your initial books? Well, gosh, I became very suddenly well-known at 26 for my first book, The Beauty Myth, which was about images of women and sort of ideals of perfection and the politics of those ideals. And I was a baby feminist. And so I am sort of identified back before I was canceled in 2021 for saying naughty things that were true about the MRA vaccine's impact on women and later for doing

the Pfizer papers work with 3,500 doctors and scientists. But before that, I was identified as a feminist who was credited with leading the third wave of feminism. And so the subsequent books, a lot of them, Fire with Fire and misconceptions and promiscuities and vagina, just narrated issues that women were dealing with in their lives, often related to medical issues, like misconceptions was about the childbirth industry. Naomi, I understand, I got a lot to talk to you about, but I understand you'd uncovered some voter fraud in New York City. Yes, sadly. So much, it's kind of overwhelming.

I was a campaign consultant during the mayoral race in November that brought Zoran Mamdani to the mayoral role. And I was advising a city council candidate, an amazing young woman named Athena Clark. And we saw many aberrations in that race, everything from we had an affidavit, from a poll worker who said that people were advised to feed double voted ballots where Mom Doni was voted for twice because he appeared in two different places into the machine. I went with her to the Board of Elections afterwards and they banned me from doing a 3% paper ballot hand count, which New York state law provides for. I tried to take it further, but lawyers are so scared in New York of dealing with voter fraud

because of what happened to Rudy Giuliani, who was disbarred and sued for millions of dollars. when he looked into voter fraud. Fast forward to the primary, all of the legacy media announced that there were three big winners of the Democratic Socialists for America in the June primary, which is prior to the election in November.

And allegedly there were three DSA victors, but I'm in touch with a professional observer, Lulu Friestat of Smart Elections.U.S. and my former colleague, Jimmy Wagner, a lawyer, they've asked for a court intervention because of the level of fraud that they've witnessed in the vote count. They're still counting the primary vote. It's not over yet. Jimmy held up a sheaf of papers in Judge Sweeney's courtroom showing that they're not even tabulating the vote. The papers are blank where they're supposed to tabulate them. Lulu Friesdat sneaked photographs out of the cage where they count the vote.

confirming that fake Xerox ballots are being intermingled with real ballots, confirming that in violation of the court order, she's kept 15 feet away so none of the observers can see what's going on at all. And that's a felony to violate a court order. The judge said they had to be closer. Brian and I both gave fake. I gave like, I asked to vote in New York City, which I'm not allowed to do because I'm registered upstate.

Brian gave a fake name and a fake address. Both of us were given the go-ahead to vote in our local precinct. And there are aberrations all the way to the primary from last year that allegedly moved Zoran Mamdani ahead, isn't even signed or certified. And there are hundreds, there are 100,000 blank ballots on the Board of Elections website that were counted in the Zoranam-Dani race. and in the primary. So they're counting blant ballots which they shouldn't be doing.

The machines could well be scanning ballots that have erroneous double votes twice as double votes, which is the margin of victory mom, Dhani had. There's documentation of fake ballots mixed in with real ballots. Friestat also has documentation of hundreds and hundreds of broken seals. Jimmy Wagner has a photograph of a big bag of blank ballots open left overnight outside the cage where they're counting with no security. And in Freistad's pictures, you can see that the cage is actually a Potemkin village. It's panels that are on wheels and they can be moved back and forth. And then there's a six foot gap at the rear where anyone can walk in and out with no security, no lock, no key, no security. no security device of any kind, and there are giant piles of paper in cartons underneath the vote

counters and printers behind them, an array of printers. So literally fake ballots or reproduction ballots could be mingled in by the counters by reaching under the desk. So it's a gigantic fraud upon fraud upon fraud. And what's also interesting is the Board of Elections is trying so hard to keep us from overseeing the vote, which is what New York State provides for. New York State law says voters have to vote tallies have to be there. Observers have to be there. They have to see what's going on. You know, they have to see who the vote is for. There has to be security. There has to be chain of custody. None of that is happening. So I don't believe Zoran Mamdani won the election. I don't believe the DSA candidates on there.

We're talking before the stream heated up and about how the previous third wave of feminism so-called was a happier time, so to speak, how bewildering it is now. How did feminism end up in Marxism? And are you not blown away by the level of fraud and deceit in a government that sort of prides itself in its, well, I always thought it prided itself in its, um, a brightness. Well, let's take the second one first. I'm not really blown away. Well, I am blown away by the level of fraud and deceit. I'm blown away that it's so overt. And I'm blown away at the sense of entitlement the board of elections has in New York to just break the law, break the law, break the law.

Like they're, they're so, the machine. And I hate to say it as a former Democrat, but it's a Democratic machine is so stitched up. Sorry for that light. I can't quit escape. It's so sticking up that the Board of Elections has a sense of impunity. They actually escorted Lulu Friestat out via security officers when she tried to watch the vote, which is her job last Friday. Yeah, they don't even care. Like they don't care that I'm telling everyone that there's massive fraud because they feel like they own the judge. They must feel that they own the judges. They've intimidated the lawyers, as I learned firsthand. They destroyed Rudy Giuliani when he tried to take a look. I mean, generally at the vote count. And yeah, they have a few. It's not just, it's not just,

it's not just voter fraud. It's financial fraud, too. I mean, that's the other thing that's being uncovered, like, wildly. Yeah. Yeah, okay, yes, that is astonishing. Like the level of Medicare fraud that Nick Shirley is exposing and the Treasury Secretary dissent what he's exposing. It is massive. I mean, look, Sam Antar is an incredible person.

He's a former Crazy Eddie CFO who was a felon. He was cheating on behalf of. of Crazy Eddie, an electronics retailer. He got caught and he decided to become a whistleblower to help the government find fraud. And he explained that the Democratic Party is basically a giant money laundering machine because billions goes from democratic office holders to NGOs, left-wing NGOs. The NGOs then illegally flow millions and millions to, political activities. Some of it goes offshore. And so rich people get a tax deduction plus they get to

offshore their money, which I hadn't known. And then the millions illegally going to campaigning for people like Zoramamani, get them elected. Probably I would throw in their bribes to people who count the vote because I can't figure out how you get so much corruption otherwise. And then the cycle begins again. And so that's really what Bacent is uncovering, you know, is this giant machine of non-profits in bed with local government

just sucking millions of dollars, you know, out of donors and then using it to kind of continue to give donors what they want, but also continue to create a machine that is corrupt. I'm not saying there's no corruption on the Republican side, but

I think that what's being uncovered with President Trump saying go show, you know, go find where the bodies are buried. And tonight there's going to be a big speech that President Trump is going to give about corruption in the 2020 election that he claims to have found. I'm looking forward to hearing what he has to say. It's a massive scale. And I'm beginning to wonder if Democrats would ever have been able to be elected without illegal immigration and without the kind of massive, voter fraud that we witnessed and documented in the last New York elections, the November election last year.

I want to take a, yeah, I don't think your mic's on. Is your mic on? Oh, sorry, I turn my mic up. I would think it's about something lately, and it's, I was thinking, do Democrats cheat more than Republicans? I'm going to answer that and then no, let me answer that. I think the scale of the machine is extraordinary on the left. And the right does it sort of the old-fashioned way with hand-greasing and handshaking and glad handling and that stuff.

Is that correct? I would agree with you, Dr. Drew, a look at L.A. I mean, there's no way Spencer Pratt didn't do really. That was so obvious. Right? So obvious. But I mean, I bet no one gets to like here as a journalist, what really strikes me as compared with 2000 and I was there as an advisor to Al Gore at that time, you know, remember those scenes of people crowding around the counters in Florida, you know, watching them hold up every vote, every vote. The hanging chads, this is Republican.

This is Democrat. The press used to be in the room when the votes were counted. And now I bet if you were to ask, how were the votes counted in L.A.? where were the votes counted? You know, who was allowed to observe? Can I observe? The answer would be no, no, no, no, no, and no. And the LA Times isn't reporting from the counting room, right?

So that's on us. We as citizens have allowed a laziness about where and how our votes are counted. We're not even asking our news organizations to go, you know, live stream it. The Board of Elections in New York claimed that you can't take pictures or have recorded. There's no law saying that. That's their own regulation. It's a public space. There's no expectation of privacy. They just made that up, right? But no one challenged it. The New York Times didn't challenge it. CBS didn't challenge it. I'm sure the same thing is true in LA. So it is a massive machine. It is a democratic machine. I have to say to your point, do Democrats cheat more than Republicans?

I'm reading a really good Doris Kearns-Goodwin account of the progressive era and Teddy Roosevelt's presidency. And Republicans cheated more than Democrats at that time. But there was still massive growth. Yeah, it is wild how much that has been part of the political landscape. All right, I want to take a little break. When we get back, I want to talk about Erica Schwartz. She is the pointee as the new CDC director. She's been saying some interesting things, and she is highly trained.

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All right, we've had some tech issues and our time is a little bit compressed here. Naomi needs to go, and my next guest needs to come in as well. But before I let Naomi go, I want to hear her thoughts on Erica Schwartz. Two things. I made a face.

Dr. Erica Schwartz. Yes, she legitimately is physician. position. And yet it's interesting. I don't think she demands to be called Dr. Erica Schwartz. When somebody actually is a doctor, somebody actually is something, they don't demand you do anything because they just are. But in any event, I made a puss at the preventative medicine, not because there's anything wrong with preventative medicine or my colleagues in preventative medicine, but I don't know that a CDC centers for disease control, I don't know, I want an infectious disease doctor in there like Redfield. But she said something, Amy, I'm going to play this for you.

She said something about the MRNA vaccines that that might get you kind of exercised. Dr. Schwartz, do you believe that MRNA vaccines, including the COVID-19 vaccine, are safe and effective? Senator, thank you for meeting with me earlier. I do appreciate that. I will say for the record, you do have the most beautiful office in the Senate. That being said, I do believe that MRA... You're all welcome over afterwards, yeah. I do believe that MRNA technology is safe and effective. Thank you.

I appreciate that. Now, but I'm going to give her an out here. She says the MRA technology is safe and effective, which leaves the window open to using it in terminal cancer, which is really where it should be used. What did you hear in her comment? I heard the exact same thing you did. And did you say she's a lawyer?

Did I catch that? Is she an attorney as well? She's a lawyer also. Well, that was a very lawyerly response. That was a very lawyerly response. She wasn't going on the record saying the MRI injection that millions of Americans were mandated to take into their bodies was safe and effective. She said the technology is. What is technology?

It could mean a theory, you know, a model. It could mean how something behaves in the lab. It could mean a piece of IP. In no way did she commit herself to saying that the injection is safe and effective. At the same time, she pleased a lot of vested special interests who clearly are not going to let this administration or RFK Jr. do the right thing in relation to that technology, which is so dangerous. There's also no evidence that the technology itself is safe and effective. So I'm disappointed at all. Not pushing back.

Sorry. Certainly not with COVID. And I'd love you to look into the aortic dissection story because clearly there's something with the spike protein going on there. Lindsey Graham died of an aerobic dissection. I've seen a dozen aerobic dissections in the last four years. I'd seen two in my entire career before that. And so I don't know if it's COVID. I don't know if it's the vaccine.

I don't know if it's both. But I smell spike protein for sure. And for people that have persistent spike production. Yeah, go ahead. I jump in. I was just going to say Dr. McCullough, Peter McCullough, has done a lot of work on the mechanisms by which the spike protein attacks the operation of the heart. And I believe he's specifically published on this issue.

Also, Nicholas Hulcher, his colleague, has done work on that. And, yeah, we know that the. spike accumulates in the circulatory system and lining, right, the endothelium, correct? Endothelium, exactly. Thank you. And he also explained that it interferes with how adrenaline makes the heart react and beat and that that's why so many people who die in their sleep die early morning when the body has a surge of adrenaline.

That's why young athletes drop dead on football fields. And so we know something about the mechanism of that, but I'm with you. I actually have a loved one who passed away. You know, he was elderly, but it was like, you know, hearts are exploding in weird ways that they never did before. Well, they did. They've always, they always, see, this is the thing I would warn people. These conditions have always been around, but not there's a, the incidence is changing. And you got to, you got to look at that and go, hey, that means something.

Our job is to figure that up. Erica Schwartz's job is to figure that out. And when they say that vaccine is effective, against what? I mean, we now have, I mean, think about it, Naomi. First of all, it's a vaccine designed for a variant that's not around, not here. So I don't know what they mean by effective. It's nobody's hospitalized for COVID anymore. There is a monoclonal antibody and an antiviral that you can take when you get sick immediately.

there is a pre-exposure and a post-exposure medication that has a 75% record for stopping COVID in its tracks. Why do we need a vaccine for a mild illness for which we have, it's like a vaccine for something that we have a exposure prevention, a early illness prevention, a monoclonal antibody, and two, if you're sick, two, antivirals. I mean, nobody's in the hospital. What is the vaccine going to add? I mean, Brian O'Shea, my husband would say the reason they're still pushing the COVID vaccine is the contracts were signed. The government contracts are signed a long time before the event that they govern. And they still have to push that stuff out as long as the contract has paid for it, basically. it's heartbreaking.

I mean, the good news is, according to Dr. Thorpe, the OBGYN, whom I interviewed today, only 1% of moms or single digits of moms of newborn babies are buying it and taking, you know, giving their kids the COVID vaccine or moms of children. The pickup has dropped to single digits for children, which thank God. And, you know, I don't know what to say. it's evil, it's depressing. You're right to notice that it, her appointment and that question, which these questions are all, you know, created in advance, does indicate a kind of undermining of RFK Jr., which I am worried to see. He should get all the support he can possibly get from this administration.

And you're right to note that his subordinate is contradicting his policy, right? and her hearing, you know, for her confirmation. So that's bad. Well, listen, I always enjoy speaking with you. Are you, we talk about such depressing things, you and is it, but you're, I feel like you're smiling more and are you optimistic? Are things going to get better? I mean, what are your thoughts?

And then we'll wrap this up. What are my thoughts? I think that we are in an incredible time in which the hydra is being beheaded one stroke after another. And also a time of unveiling the fact that, you know, real communists who really want to get rid of police and the Senate and borders and private property, you know, are actually getting ownership of our cities. That's been revealed. And I think it's going, you know, I think it's, I don't see how the Democrat. can survive that really in the midterms. So I am kind of hopeful because I think an incredibly talented team is in the White House,

kind of historically talented team. And if they keep going, I don't see how big chunks of the funding of corruption can survive. I could be wrong. But, you know, again, looking back at the progressive era, you know, the robber barons and then kind of the Rockefellers and Standard Oil, you know, all these people had everyone in the bag. They had the railroads. They had the media. They had the politicians. And then a handful of really good journalists and Teddy Roosevelt and, you know, Taft and a few other people pushed back and said, we're not going to let you be so corrupt. And they actually changed the face of America

and got us a lot of things that we still have like the eight hour week and children not working in minds and pure food and drugs. most part. So right now I am hopeful. Well, Teddy Roosevelt is one of my favorite presidents. He was a total nut, but one of the greatest presidents. Naomi, thank you so much for joining me.

We'll talk again soon. Thank you, Dr. Drew. Thank you. You got him. Let's bring Brad in here. Yeah, let's bring him in. Brad Plumbo is a journalist and host of the Brad versus everyone on podcast on YouTube

and Spotify. He is a blankly fellow at the Steamboat Institute. his work has appeared in USA Today, National View, Newsweek. Paul Brad on Brad underscore Palumbo P-O-L-U-M-B-O. Brad, Teddy Roosevelt was narcissist and bipolar

and a great president. One of the things I've always cautioned people against is trying to profile psychiatrically a given president's proclivities and then declare they're not going to be a good president. You can't say that. Well, you know, it sounds like if he was alive today,

he'd be a 2028 frontrunner. That's right. That's right. That's right. And did you see us talking about Erica Schwartz? She's an interesting woman. She really is. She's certainly qualified. But people are taking issue with the fact that she worked in the healthcare industry, you know, getting in nearly a million dollars a year as an executive. Immediately people are untrusting because she was at United Healthcare. Yeah, well, I don't have that same necessarily distrust. Ultimately, she'll be working in a department headed by RFK Jr. So there'll be a little bit of push and pull, even if she was more of the kind of establishment variety or perspective. You still have the kind of bona fides of the Maha movement at the very top.

So I don't foresee it being a huge issue. And I think they just wanted somebody they could get confirmed and they know she'll be able to get enough votes to actually get. it confirmed. Oh, that's interesting. She's certainly much better than Rochelle Walenski. That was, Adam kept calling her the gypsy woman.

I thought he's about right. We still don't know. By the way, remember her whole story about her son, her son counting the days till he went to summer camp and then she wouldn't let him go. We still don't know if he got vaccinated.

She would never answer the question. Did her son get the vaccine? Wow. Yeah, no, she was a disaster. The Biden, CDC in particular, I mean, it was absurd. I'm still not over the fact that they claimed the CDC had the authority to halt evictions nationwide based on a dusty old federal statute about fumigating buildings.

So they actually fought in court to preserve the eviction moratorium as a power unilaterally given to the CDC director by a statute originally about fumigation. I mean, it was farcical, really. It is that's such a tell. The CDC is a advisory organization. They send out. Well, it's supposed to be. People like me.

Yeah. No, it's not a, it has no authority to do anything. I mean, maybe there's some things in terms of outbreaks. But. Well, it's grabbed a lot of authority to do stuff. Is that going back to normal now? Well, I don't know. I think to some extent, but these agencies, it's like a massive ship turning it around is very slow.

And frankly, what you have is typically in a Republican administration, most of the rank and file civil servants are not really fully aligned with your vision. So I'm kind of pessimistic that they are able to enact that much change. But certainly, I mean, at the top level, some of the policy decisions and outcomes will definitely be different. I want to play a video for you where a chancellor from UC San Francisco is being interviewed. Oh, we're going to take an ad break? Okay. So I'm going to take a quick ad break here. And then I'll play this video for you.

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Brad underscore Loombo. Take a look at this. Of course, the vast majority of pregnancies are in women, and I have absolutely no problem with using the word pregnant women. I use it myself. Has a non-biological woman ever had a baby? A transgender person can. That's not a biological woman.

Has a non-biological woman ever had a baby? I would reiterate. It's ridiculous. So this whole conversation always frustrates the hell out of it. Because no one gets the language right. They literally have to say, is there anyone other than an XX female mammal that can just ate a baby? That's the question. And you have to ask it that way, or they fuck around all over the place.

Because as soon as you say woman, now you're in the world of gender. and they don't seem to understand that they fall right into their trap with the word man and woman. See, I believe that these professors know exactly what the correct answer is or these medical school leaders. They just are too afraid to say it. And they know they'll get so much backlash from crazy left-wing activists. You're able to, you're right, but they're able to squirt through because of the language that the congressional people use, which is they fall for it. You have to stop saying woman.

You have to say female mammal. That's it. If you're going to talk about biology, you have to use biological terms. You may be right, but I also think that's a sad state of affairs where, because she did say by the... It's unbelievable.

It's unbelievable that we live in that world, but they're forcing people to, all right, so be as accurate as you can. freaking be with the question and then hold their hand to the fire. That's it. Yeah, no, I agree. But I will say that the, she did ask about a biological woman. And that is not a truly mysterious term, even if there's better language that could be more specific.

Sure. But what I'm saying is with that clip, that that medical school professor or leader and the others, president, I don't know if they realized this. but they look absurd to a normal person when they dodge and evade and squirm. A basic question like that. And I think it's a shame because, I mean, I know you are as well. I'm a believer in medicine. I'm a believer that most physicians have their patients' best interests at heart and know a lot of very valuable stuff.

But unfortunately, a lot of people in America see these insights or windows into a couple areas where medicine has become hopelessly politicized, at least especially in academia, and they lose trust in it all. And then they start, you know, rejecting perfectly solid good health advice from their local pediatrician that maybe is, you know, just a great doctor who is based in data and evidence. But they don't feel like they can trust the system. And when they see clips like this, they're certainly not crazy for having that intuition. You're absolutely correct. And the people that are so busy being evasive might have some other judgment issues in reality.

I mean, if you can't, let's look at the erotic dissections from Lindsay Graham. If we can't say, I wonder if that has ain't due with the spike protein. Oh, how dare you? It's just a question. It's a scientific question. Can we try to figure out what's underlying this rise in dissections? is there no horizon dissection. Let's look carefully at it. Won't even look. Won't even look. Yeah, I mean, I'll be the first to admit, I don't know much about that, but I agree with you that it should be open to inquiry.

I think when you shut down debate, oftentimes things that do start out as outlier theories end up being proven true or at least become the most likely or dominant belief in the field. A good example of this is the COVID-19 lab leak theory, which was labeled a conspiracy theory. so much so that they banned any post on Facebook asserting it. And then ultimately, multiple federal agencies even concluded that it was the most likely explanation for what happened in the pandemic. So I believe in open inquiry, I think when you start to label certain topics off limits or shut down questions into things,

that actually fosters the distrust and leads people to just totally check out and get their information from whatever dark corner of the internet is willing to talk about these things. And people don't like it when you tell them you can't question that. That topic is too offensive or what have you. They want an open and honest dialogue. And it can be nuanced, right? You can say, of course, only females can become pregnant and give birth,

but we do treat transgender patients and we treat them with respect and we accommodate their identities in our offices and try to be polite. You can have a nuanced answer, but just don't pee on our leg and tell us that it's raining. you know, don't gaslight us. I agree. Yeah, I think an awful lot about Galileo these days, who essentially ran into an ossified bureaucracy. That's the reason Galileo couldn't get an honest hearing on his ideas.

He kept running into these authority figures, quite literally, this bureaucracy. Do you make anything of the defense, Secretary of Wars has a desire to get testosterone levels checked on all the male warriors and female warriors? I don't really see

any harm to it. I mean, I don't really see any downside. I mean, it's interesting. I saw progressives, like many online, like, freaking out about this, saying it's like toxic masculinity or what have you. I don't know. I think especially for men of a certain age, making sure your testosterone

levels are right is actually, listen, I'm here in Miami. A lot of people are taking testosterone who don't have anything wrong with their levels. They just want to juice them up. But it is just funny to see them kind of a lot of people react with a 10 out of 10. Like, oh my God, this is crazy. When this seems to me to just not really be a big deal and seem pretty innocuous. It is a little bit medically weird. I mean, people's levels are all over the place.

There are plenty of people with three or four hundred. have adequate levels of testosterone, and there are people into 8 to 1,200 zone, which is the way, way, upper limit that may feel a little reduced in their testosterone level. So it's not something that correlates very well, though I imagine he would want to know who has low testosterone after throwing them out into the field. They may want to be supplemented. That makes some sense to me. Yeah, and I do find it funny how instantly you have like more progressive, social progressive

type saying like, this is gender affirming care. This is just like the trans people they don't want in the military. And I'm like, these really aren't the same thing actually. I mean, it is one of the frustrating things you encounter. Obviously, like I'm not a doctor, but it is a basic principle of medicine that similar treatments for totally different conditions are not the same thing, right? So it's like, if you're taking hormone therapy to treat a psychological condition, that's just categorically not the same thing as, you know, upping your testosterone level if you age and it's lower so that you have more energy or that you build, maintain muscle or what have you. It's just apples to oranges, but they try to do that gotcha on this story. Yeah, that's bizarre. Yeah, it's, it's, I always

correlate testosterone to like thyroid. When it's lower, you increase it. That's all. You're not changing somebody into anything different than they already are. What's worrying you these days? Oh, just in the world, just at large? in the country. Okay. I'm writing about how would you? Well, there's really so much. But I think simultaneously,

I'm pretty disturbed by the rise of the Democratic Socialists of America, the DSA, and just the far left types who just, I mean, they're pretty open about it. That's the one thing I'll give them credit for. They just want to rip everything down, destroy the American system and capitalism. They just want absolute open borders.

Let's just take the get rid of these Senate and the federal government. That's impossible. That would require a constitutional amendment and no state's going to put up with that, let alone anybody in Congress, right? Well, I think you're assuming that they want to do it through the

rule of law, which would require a constitutional amendment, but I don't really think that's what they have in mind. I mean, the DSA is run by people who are violent revolutionary, so I think they wouldn't care ultimately if enough of them got in power about how they're supposed to do it. That seems bizarre to me.

Seems bizarre. I can't imagine something like that. Well, it's funny. The Senate actually benefits a lot of blue states. I'm from Rhode Island. Rhode Island barely has any people, but it sends two Democratic senators into perpetuity. It's like they always think of the little states benefiting from the Senate existing. And they're like, oh, this is hurting Democrats.

It's actually, there's a lot of tiny blue states when you think about it. Delaware, right? The list goes on. It's not something that's overwhelmingly beneficial to. Republicans. By the way, I don't know if you heard the Rhode Island senator when they were interviewing RFK and some of his confirmation hearings. That one senator was the only one who knew what the hell he was talking about.

He was talking about end-of-life care and fruitless care and the amount of money that's expanded in the last six months of life. He and he knew what he was talking about. Literally every other senator was just completely clueless and just, you know, as usual, just rabble-rous. Yeah, I mean, that makes sense. But I actually, and this is, I'm not somebody who believes in like blind, unfettered democracy, just give 51% of the public whatever they want.

But a good argument for the Senate is to just watch a Senate hearing and then watch a House hearing. And obviously I do this a lot because I cover politics. The Senate, they're not constantly running for re-election, right? They have longer terms. They give them a little bit more leeway. They're more collegial. They get to know each other better. They have more interactions.

and they're not to say they're not still grandstanders and they're not still obnoxious, but they're a lot less obnoxious than the House and there are a lot more bipartisan and a lot less dysfunctional than the House where they're constantly running for re-election every two years, so it's just a never-ending campaign where they're just trying to go viral and do their big one.

And I mean, honestly, I think if you were going to abolish one of the legislative chambers, you're not going to abolish either one, but I'd much rather see the House get rid of the house in the Senate. Yeah, you know, as disturbed as I am about the DSA, I'm also disturbed by this push for absolute direct democracy, as you said, which unfortunately we have here in California with our amendment system,

what do you call it, the, I forget the name of these bills we were able to put through. But this country was, no democracy has ever survived, not with more than 10,000 people anyway, No democracy has ever survived. And this was never meant to be democracy. This is meant to be a republic. Why can't we get used to that? Why can't we square that?

We don't even know it, it seems to me. Well, yeah, the First Amendment is literally anti-democracy. The whole point is that even if 51% of the population wants to ban words that hurt their feelings, you can't. And so obviously, you want a government that is accountable to the people. You don't want a king. You don't want a dictatorship. But you also don't want just tyranny of the majority or unfettered mob rule either. And so it's funny, there's just a lot of disdain for the founders these days because, oh, they were like white men or they owned slaves like everyone else at the time or what have you.

But it's actually astonishing if you ever look at a list of their ages, how young these men were. Yet the genius. Some of the things, some of them were even younger than that, I believe, when they signed the Declaration of Independence. And it's astonishing that some of the principles they established. And I think it requires a level of arrogance to think that you and your infinite wisdom as a 25-year-old DSA activist who still lives with your mom knows better. Not only that, that, oh, they're sacrificing so much as a DSA activist. The signers of the Declaration, something like 85% of them either were killed or lost everything.

So, you know, they put their money with their mouth as it were. Well, listen, I promise to let you go by five after the hour. It's five after the hour. I appreciate you being here. It's always interesting to talk to you. Where do you want people to go, perhaps other than X? Check out the podcast, Brad versus everyone, on all podcast platforms. You got it.

Thank you so much for being here. All right. Thanks. Brad Pallumbo, Brad underscore Ploombo, as we can find it. Brad against everyone. And let's put up the upcoming guest. I think Andrew Yang rescheduled again. I'm going to talk to that boy.

I know. I think that's what happened. That's not good. Let's see. Do we have somebody to fill in? What's that? Who are we having fill in? We have Kelly Denison and William Parker, PhD.

They're still on for the 21st. And Steve Hilton coming in down the road. Amren's coming down the road. Joseph Witt coming back, Deering. Alan Dershowitz. That'll be fun. Michael Gates. Wow, what a great lineup. That'll be that's on October, July 30th. I'll look forward to that.

Okay, Caleb, anything from your standpoint? Well, tell everybody why Andrew Yang is so special to you. Andrew Yang and I are in a TV show called America's Dumbest. And we are still in the show. By next week, it's, what, 9 o'clock on Wednesdays? When the show airs? No, Tuesday. Wait, it was yesterday?

Yeah. Oh, okay, Wednesday. But 22nd, I think it aired. next. And it's a two-hour special or something. Oh, it is? Yeah, I heard that. I know what that's all about. Weird. Maybe they're going to go back. And we all were, the cast was sort of texting each other today. And we all were noting that they edited a lot of stuff out.

At one point, Susan, has in this device that electrocuted us if we got a question wrong. And that didn't show up on the show yesterday. Interesting. Yeah. And I see that's probably good. Jack, the host, talking about how, oh, I'm just supportive school mom. You know, I went to him and I go, look, you've got to burn from it. I go, look, you guys did to me. And he goes, well, you shouldn't have gotten the question wrong.

I was like, okay, Jack. Okay, that's why they took it off. Oh, my God, that's funny. All right. Caleb, anything on your thoughts? No, for anyone who saw the technical issues, I'm going to stitch all of this together. So on YouTube, you won't see anything different. It'll just cut out all those parts.

Are you going to add the interview that nobody? nobody saw onto it. No, no, it's in there. It's still in there. We still have all the footage. But I'm just going to clip out when we had to go on hold to swap out the output. That was a good beginning. All right.

I'm kind of under the weather today. I have something called diverticulitis, which is always a lot of fun. And so I'm a little bit slow, but I'll be all full force by next Tuesday when I see you at 2 o'clock. I'll be there then. That's all. Ask Dr. Drew is produced by. by Caleb Nation and Susan Pinsky, Emily Barsh, is our content producer. As a reminder, the discussions here are not a substitute for medical care, diagnosis, or treatment.

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