Ask Dr. Drew - Tylenol In Pregnancy Linked To Female Reproductive Damage & Smaller Ovaries In Their Daughters – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 666

Episode Date: September 16, 2026

A landmark 2026 study links Tylenol use while pregnant to 41% smaller ovaries, 23% fewer ovarian follicles, and 13% smaller uteruses in infant girls. It is the latest research on the effects of acetaminophen, following explosive allegations by HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. that connected the popular OTC painkiller to autism & ADHD. Published in Human Reproduction Open, the study followed 302 infant girls, measured acetaminophen in their mothers’ urine, and examined the girls by ultrasound. The authors describe it as the first human cohort designed specifically to study prenatal acetaminophen exposure and ovarian development. The doses were not extreme: the median total reported dose across pregnancy was about 3 grams. The study reports a dose-response pattern, and a separate cohort of 1,210 girls showed lower uterine and ovarian volume at puberty. The authors note the design is observational and cannot establish causation. Dr. Kelly Victory and epidemiologist Nicolas Hulscher join Dr. Drew to examine the findings and discuss pharma’s historic overmedication of women – now at the forefront of the Lindsay Clancy trial. Hulscher also presents new case report data showing Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine plasmid DNA recovered from a lethal “turbo cancer” heart tumor. Dr. Kelly Victory is Chief of Emergency & Disaster Medicine at The Wellness Company with over 30 years of clinical experience. Follow at https://x.com/DrKellyVictory Nicolas Hulscher, MPH is an epidemiologist and administrator for the McCullough Foundation. He holds a B.S. in Pre-Health Professional Studies from Oakland University’s Honors College and an MPH in epidemiology from the University of Michigan School of Public Health. Follow at https://x.com/NicHulscher 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 • BIOPRO - BioPro+® is a natural formula of growth factors and peptides that support how you look, feel & perform. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/biopro⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/fatty15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/paleovalley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twc.health/drew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Executive Producers • Kaleb Nation - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • Susan Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/firstladyoflove⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Content Producer • Emily Barsh - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/emilytvproducer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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If you remember, we spoke to the researcher who first observed this phenomenon, and he linked it to a specific enzyme deficiency in the liver. More to be revealed, it requires further study. It's something we should be paying attention to. Why wouldn't we? This is how medical research moves forward. Dr. Kelly Victory is she for emergency and disaster medicine at the wellness company. Also, we have epidemiologist Nick Holsher who joins us to examine some of these findings. And Nick has a bunch of other studies that have come out since he last visited us.

And we're going to dig a little bit into some of those. You can find Kelly on X at DR Kelly Victory. Nick is Nick. And I see Hulsher, H-H-U-L-S-C-H-E-R. Kelly is going to join me first. Dr. Victor will join me first because she wants to sound off a bit on Lindsay Clancy after this. Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre. The psychopaths start this right. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction. Fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous.

I'm a doctor for a c-a-saint. Where the hell you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these. these chemicals. Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Love Line all the time. Educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat. Do you have trouble? You can't stop and you want to help stop it. I can help. I got a lot to say. I got a lot more to say. Of course, Dr. Victory is aborted in trauma and emergency medicine, 30 years of clinical experience, expertise in disaster preparedness, mass casualty medical management. And she is, of course,

on the medical board at the wellness company, where she is the chief of emergency and disaster medicine. She's also working with the wellness care product. Follow Dr. Victory at DR. Kelly Victory. The book that she participated in is called Toxic Shot facing the dangers of the COVID vaccines. Kelly, always a privilege to have you join us. Happy to be back. Lindsay Clancy. Thanks for having me. And I do want to sound off a little bit about Lindsay Clancy. before people, you know, start, you know, fall apart of the hair on fire, you know, I was a clinical psychologist, by the way, before I became a physician. So I've got, you know, some, some psych background

for sure. I'm the first person to acknowledge that postpartum depression is a real entity. Many women suffer from it. In fact, probably many more than are acknowledged. A lot of people just get through sort of the postpartum blues on their own. Other people are very seriously affected and need to seek medical care. All of that said, I don't believe for a minute. There's no part. And I watched much, much of the trial and paid a lot of attention to the opinions of the experts that were called on both sides. There's not an iota to me of doubt that Lindsay Clancy was in control of her faculties at the time that she murdered her three small children.

I think that there's the idea that she was in some sort of a psychotic break that lasted, by the way, the 18 minutes that she required to do these heinous deeds and then went away. Because she was not psychotic before. She wasn't psychotic after. She freely acknowledges the only time she ever in her life heard this supposed commanding male voice was during that 18-minute period. That simply isn't reality, Drew. That's not how it works. People do have, as you well know, people can have both visual and auditory hallucinations, but they don't occur like that. If you have never had auditory hallucinations before, you have a single one. The idea that you would, for the first time in your life, have an auditory hallucination, that's the technical term for hearing voices,

and actually listen to and heed what that voice is telling you is preposterous. It didn't happen. Furthermore, so let's start with that. Wait, wait, before you furthermore, before you furthermore, I want to also point out that you worked in prisons. That was part of your expertise. You have lots of experience as a clinical psychologist in prisons. And you understand the range of veracity,

amongst which these sorts comport themselves. That's number one. Correct. Number two, was that clinical psychologist, the prosecution's expert, who I thought did an excellent job, who pointed out exactly what you're saying. And I just want to add one little thing to really pile on what you're saying is I saw lots of postpartum psychosis at the psychosal where I worked. And those women are usually wildly psychotic.

Like, whoa, like the behaviors are kind of aggressive. violence stuff. And this idea that it's a, now, now the flip side, though, is, well, maybe it was a depression that became psychotic in that moment. And maybe there was some sort of psychotic break. But to your point, the fact, if she had said, like, I was confused and out of it, I didn't know where I was, and I came to, and I guess I was responding to this voice. She didn't say that. They made the case. A voice said, do this, and I did it. Correct. And even the defense's expert, if you've read his book, In his own book, he says, if somebody claims to have only heard a voice and done that and

listen to and heeded the auditory hallucination the very first time, he says, the defense expert in his book says, that is evidence of essentially fraud, of lying, that that's an excuse. And that's what you see all the time in the prison system. So very powerful. Secondly, she was perfectly capable, Drew, at the time that she was supposedly psychotic of thinking through a plan, sending her husband out, sending him to a restaurant further away. She acknowledged, for example, and it kind of sickens me to even say it, that as she took each child down there, she put them on their bellies, she turned them face over so she wouldn't have to look

at their eyes and them looking at her as she was killing them. I mean, that is thoughtful. That is not what a psychotic person does. So here, here. So what do I think is? Do I think that she's a cold-blooded killer? No, it's what I would call in psychological terms altruistic filicide or extended suicide as another, where she was morbidly depressed. She wanted to end her own life. She had been contemplating suicide. Altruistic filicide is when you say, I am going to kill these things that I love because they would otherwise suffer horribly without me. I don't want to abandon them. same way, for example, somebody who's going to commit suicide might shoot their dog first, not because they hate that dog, but because the idea of abandoning and leaving that dog with no one to care for it is intolerable. So I would say she. And they can sometimes have this thought that we'll be joined in heaven or whatever, we'll all be together. Correct. Because their thinking is off, right? Correct. All over the place. Yes. You know, based on what your belief

system is. If you believe that there is an afterlife, then maybe she believed she would meet her children back in heaven. But I don't think for a minute that she was in a psychosis or in any other way not responsible, not able to know right from wrong. I think she should be locked up for a very, very long time. If she was actually, if that one holdout juror hadn't hung the jury, then she would have been able to be out in 40 days. Think about that. 40 days. She's a young woman.

She would have been out in 40 days. And so hopefully, I don't believe, frankly, that they will retry this true. I think that they've seen the writing on the wall. It's just going to be too hard to get a jury that will ever come to a unanimous decision. So I'm assuming that what they will choose to do is use this for the basis for a plea deal. But I'm sure as heck I'm hoping that that plea deal involves her being locked up for a very, very long time. What she did is absolutely, I can't even get my arms around the idea of strangling three young children. I just can't.

Yeah, I am with you. When I think about this stuff, I just, I recoil because I can't stay with the thought. Let me switch to another topic that I'm going to lean into your clinical psychology background, which is the evolutionary, the environment, what the environment of evolutionary adapted is, did. to the brain evolution of females that added to them becoming more agreeable and more likely to sort of go along with a group so as to avoid ostracism. A, I assume that's something you believe to be true. And B, how does that contribute to all this mass formation that we're seeing amongst women today? Well, I think it's multifaceted. First of all, there's no question. People want to be part of the group.

There's a long, long history of data and research on that exact topic. People don't want, and people will say and do things just to get along, even if they don't believe something to be true. And I can cite all those studies. So that's part of it. I also think that there is, unfortunately, this bent amongst primarily, you know, white liberal women, which is that they have been, you know, oppressed. They are victims. No one has listened to them. You know, they've had these real issues and no one has paid enough attention. They haven't gotten the, you know, the support and attention. And so I think they used, they elevated Lindsay Clancy as kind of a model of see, see what can happen if you don't listen to us. If you don't give us the support and help that we need. There's that. They've really used her.

as a way to say, see, I told my husband I was really miserable. See, I told my doctor that I was, you know, going to snap. And I'm thinking, I truly believe that one of the greatest harms of this, of this trial, in addition to the fact that three young children were murdered horrifically, but the damage that's done, I think, to women in general, if you are to believe what these people on the jury are arguing, the 11 who said that she should not be held accountable, then that fundamentally means to me, Drew, that any woman with, you know, a functioning ovary who could be, you know, subject to hormonal swings, you know, is apparently, should never be allowed to vote, should never have control of the nuclear code, so he'll never be present,

should never be allowed to carry a handgun or purchase a handgun because they are, you know, one hormone swing away from going bat shit crazy. So I think that it's a real problem. We've spent decades, decades arguing that we are not the emotional ones. We are perfectly capable of, you know, towing the line and being just as tough as men when it comes to things of, you know, emotion. And this trial fundamentally says, mm, not so. And certainly not if you're in your childbearing age where you're, you know, you're still

having, if you're, you know, premenopausal, you certainly shouldn't be allowed to, you know, even, you know, own a steak knife or exercise ban. Sorry, Kelly. You've said this is very, very clear. I like your thinking is laid out very clearly. There's a next layer to this that I'm seeing in young men where they're fleeing, particularly American women because they see this as sort of an American phenomenon and they are going overseas to find women. They feel like, oh, so divorce, I only have a 60% probability of success in marriage.

And if there's a divorce, you get half and then you can kill my kid at any point, in utero, out of utero, what is in this for me? And by the way, you call me toxic and bad and everything else. You say I'm a horrible person and everything I do is wrong and bad and male is just, you know, patriarchy, it's all horrible. Well, I'm going somewhere else. Men retreat when they're treated like that. Men go, whoa, they go in. And then they go somewhere else. The silver lining of the Lindsay Clancy trial is that it has now provided a litmus test for any male, dating male, because all you have to ask your, you know, your paramour is, hey, what did you think? You know, where do you stand on the Lindsay Clancy thing? And if they say, oh, she, I'm glad that she got off of her.

But like, thank you. Good. Nice. You know, we don't even need to get coffee. Okay, check. Exactly. That's over. And by the way, I have to, I feel obligated to respond because Caleb had thrown up that list of,

and you're not wrong, Caleb, that list of psychiatric medications that Lindsay Clancy had been prescribed, unconscionable for certain. Yeah. My pushback would be, number one, she was not taking the vast majority of those. She was doctor shopping. She was doctor shopping, Drew. She was going to one to the next. She should never have been prescribed all those things.

But the reality is she wasn't taking most of them. I think of anything. Well, and Kelly. Kelly, there's a flip side to that very argument, which is someone, again, who worked in a psych hospital all those years. When a patient is not functioning, suicidal ideation, not taking meds as prescribed, they should be in the freaking hospital. And I guarantee you, the insurance company said, oh, no, no, we did that. She was already hospitalized.

They signed off. I smell the insurance company when it's evil presence in this story. Right. No, I think, so there was a lot. I'm not saying that everything was done perfectly in the care of this woman at all. So she was legitimately written polypharmacy. The good news is she wasn't taking most. So I don't buy the idea that, oh, it was she became.

psychotic because of this toxic mix of 13 medications because she wasn't taking 13. She'd been prescribed a month. But I'm also not saying that things were done well. They weren't. You know, the serious questions should be made whether this woman should have ever been allowed to be home alone with her children. Let's recall this was a former, she's a former labor and delivery nurse. Hold on.

Think about that. Hold on. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait. I want to stop you because. Because Caleb just threw up a video that I really I want us all to look at. Can we actually play it or will we get dinged for that, Caleb? I can play it.

It's a short clip. It's not the, it's not the Gail King interview that you were talking about. It's a different one. Oh, try to see if you can find that. That's the juror. That's the right juror. Well, I will just tell you that during Gail King and the morning, she was interviewing that juror. And Gail goes, what was the racial mix of the, you know, the group, you know, the one black guy?

And she, and Gail goes, is he the holdout? out? She goes, yeah. It turns out it was Haitian, I'm hearing. I don't know if that's true or not either. And Gail literally went, Gail was like, she couldn't talk. She went, I'm going to have to sit with that for a while. And she didn't deal with it. She just was like, okay, moving on.

She can't say anything mean about him now. A lot of the consternation about that guy stopped as his sort of profile has been sort of come more clean. I have another question. Interestingly, let me throw at this. Go ahead. Go ahead. I have, it is a moral dilemma, but there was a woman that had three children and killed them.

And then after she, they let her go free, she had more children and killed them as well. So what are the odds that this woman could want another baby like, oh, I miss my kids. Like, oh, I mean, obviously. She's a paraplegic for one thing. It doesn't matter. She doesn't matter. It does matter. But she's older.

Go ahead. But no, you're right, Susan. There was a case of a woman. Yeah, she had three children. She killed them. She went to a psych hospital for a short period of time, got out, had three more children, and killed those three children as well. So it has happened. Boggling.

Mind boggling. But, you know, when somebody's psychiatrically in this kind of mental state for life doesn't mean they're not going to do stupid things again. You know, like when can we say, okay, you shouldn't be able to have another baby, okay? If you go out free, we want to make sure that that doesn't happen. But I think, you know, truly, I think the biggest issue in addition to the, you know, horrific killing of these kids is that the damage it's certain. You know, Drew, let's go back to, you know, the roots of the word hysteria. You know, hister is from the Greek word for uterus. And the concept of hysteria was that women became hysterical because their uterus was one.

aimlessly around their body. And the way to fix that was for them to get pregnant and to root their uterus back in the pelvis where it belonged. That is the root. That is the basis of the word hysteria that women became hysterical because of issues of hormones and issues related to childbearing. We have spent, you know, centuries moving on from that concept. And now I feel like we've got a bunch of jurors going, nope, that's true.

That's true. uterus is wandering around. I mean, okay. Okay. So we got to get the uterus back in the box here. Let's see we can get it back where it belongs. Caleb,

Caleb, do I hear your voice is coming in here for a second? No, not yet. Okay. I think that was my watch or something. Okay, Susan's watch talking to us. Okay. So Kelly, we both, both Susan and I,

interrupted you when you were trying to make a point. Do you remember what that was? We were sort of talking about the Haitian, yeah. The point I was going to make about the single holdout being a Haitian male, a black male, but of Haitian descent, it's interesting because of all people, Haitians have a very strong belief in people being going crazy, doing things and acting crazy. It's the whole idea of putting a hex on somebody. This is part, it's very much a part of their culture, the idea that women in particular can be overcome by the devil, overcome by a spirit, and do things when they're under that hex. And the idea that this guy looked at and goes, nah, I know a hex when I see you. I know a crazy bitch when I see one. And she won that. I mean, she's a, you know, he, the idea that that this Haitian guy said, no, not buying it. I thought is culturally fascinating. I just think we're going a shift from the devil made me do it to the uterus floating around made me do it. But whatever, here we go. This is all such a crazy time. But, you know, if it were. I'm going to use that later.

Yeah. Oh, you're going to use it on me. Sorry, my uterus was loose in my body. I didn't mean it. Oh, my God. Yes, you do. Yes, you do. It handled a lot. It's been through a lot, though. Maybe it's done with you. Maybe it's starting to wander. So, So we got to get Nick in here. We got a lot to talk about still. Yes. I think there's a very interesting set of facts that you laid out for us. And so I'm glad we went through all that.

And I'm going to let you do a little bit of the driving with Nick, too, because while, have you seen his latest thing that he put out for us to look at? Have you looked at that one yet? It's not, it's not an attempt to publication yet. On the Tylenol, which one? Are we talking? Oh, this is. I can only remember what I was thinking about it.

Yeah, this was not the alpha gal was not the Tylenol. One of the things I thought was interesting. He posted interestingly about the potential that the Israelis lied about the COVID-19 shot deaths. There also is a piece that Caleb was throwing up there about making it clear that there's COVID-19 DNA evidence within these cancer tumors. I really want to talk about that because people have, you know, really, you know, been gaslighting us on this issue of turbo cancers and the idea that there's been a significant increase in cancers, particularly amongst people under the age of 50. From my perspective, the data are clear. And I didn't give Caleb that the graph. But cancers across the board and people under 50 are up significantly.

They've been on the rise slowly for a number of decades. but then starting in 2021, something clearly happened. There's a hockey stick trajectory now. And it's very, you know, people have gaslit us on that. Then when you start proving that there's actually COVID, you know, MRI remnants from the shot in those tumors, okay, now you got some splaining to do, Lucy. You know, so I want to talk with Nick about that. He's more capable than I because he knows all those details.

So I want to talk about the tumor evidence. I want to talk about the Israeli study and whether or not they, in fact, were hiding information. And the article I was referring to is his natokinase. I don't know how to even talk about it. But as usual, he's encyclopedic in his review of every topic he tackles. So I have deep appreciation for what he does. Okay, Nick Halsher, right after this. So as we age, most men notice that they're not getting the same workout results they used to.

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follow you, Nick, at the focal points.com or just go to X, Nick Hulcher. Both. Both are fine. The focal points.com is the substack. And yeah, definitely on X. And before I let Kelly loose on you, let's talk a little Tylenol and what you observe there and what you've been pushing out on social media. I talked to the guys. I talked to the guys, Kelly, I sent you his book and his contact information. And Nick, you tell me if this guy is somebody you know. It's William Parker. And he was one of the first observers about this Tylenol connection.

And he linked it to a deficiency of a certain enzyme in the liver. But what are you saying in the literature? Go ahead, Kelly. Hang on for a second. That guy was linking, I believe, Tylenol and autism. Now Nick is looking at and is reporting on. It is reporting on Tylenol and impact on female reproductive organs. Correct.

Correct. And I'll tell you, I'll let both of those. Yeah, I'll let Nick lose on both of them in just a second. But I will say I spoke to Dr. Parker and he was sober and he was speculating there would be some other stuff too. So Nick have at it. Yeah, so basically this is the very first study looking at what happens when a person pregnant woman takes Tylenol and then looking at the reproductive development in the child, in the female child. No study has ever looked. This study is the first to do so. And what they found

is extremely alarming. And the mothers who would take the Tylenol, only two grams, right? Two grams. It's like four caps throughout pregnancy. That's it. Their infants, their baby daughters, had 40% smaller ovaries and 20% smaller, or 20% less premortial follicles, ovarian follicles, and like 13% smaller uteri, uteruses. And so this is extremely worrisome, given that like half of pregnant women take Tylenol. And so we could go through the mechanisms, the possible mechanisms of this if you want. I can't believe it's all that you tell you the truth. truth. I can't believe it's only 50% of pregnant women take Tylenol. I would have said 95% because you can't take ibuprofen. You can't, you know, motrin-adval, you can't take ibuprofen, you can't take aspirin. So Tylenol has been, you know, traditionally, you know, our go-to for pregnant women. And what can you take is Tylenol. You know, so I would have thought it was way more than 50%. And, you know, as you said, Nick, these are, you know, four capsules total over a pregnancy. Yeah, it was just these standard doses. It wasn't crazy doses. But the strong part about the study

was they literally directly measured these Tylenol metabolites in the urine of the pregnant women. So it wasn't just self-reporting. And they accounted for what's called confounding by indication, right? So they accounted for taking, you know, Tylenol for fevers, taking it for other purposes. So it appeared it wasn't because of the fever. It appears it actually was from the Tylenol use. And what's the mechanism? Is there a presumed mechanism by which that would happen, Nick? Yeah. So they proposed a few things and they're very plausible. The first is obviously oxidative stress. So, you know, when the mother's consumed Tylenol, it's going to be depleting glutathione stores. And there are also the liver will create a discreetive.

small amount of toxic metabolites that probably reaches the infant's circulation, possibly resulting in reproductive injury. And it also can interfere with steroidogenesis and impair gene expression. So it may have epigenetic effects in the child. We don't know exactly what main mechanism it may be, but it could be a combination of all of them. Okay. And then Drew, you were bringing up. you know, this thing that Parker, who you spoke to, you know, the association or potential association, again, with Tylenol consumption and the development of autism. Again, Tylenol consumption during pregnancy.

And I think that the mechanism is pretty clear there. Again, it has to do with glutathione depletion. But can you speak to that, Nick, the association or potential association? Before you do, Nick, he, he, he. Parker was zeroed in on Tylenol use during infancy. That's when he saw the most, he saw the problem. Okay. Okay. And number two, I mean, think about that, that remember when we were in training Kelly,

Rye's syndrome was, oh, my God, don't give aspirin. Don't give aspirin. Don't give aspirin. Right. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Yeah. And then give Tylenol.

And so here we go. So now we have another problem with that too. But Nick, go ahead if you would address what Kelly was saying. Yeah. So with Tylenon autism, it appears that. it may actually accelerate vaccine-induced autism. In fact, because you are depleting those, again, your detoxification enzymes,

you're depleting your primary antioxidant glutathione. And so what children are told to do is take Tylenol after a large battery of vaccines. And so we actually think the association between Tylenol and autism may primarily be driven primarily be driven in reality by vaccines, and then the Tylenol serves as an amplifier. Okay. So if I put this down into layman's terms, you know, a child goes, gets, you know, eight vaccines on one visit. They mount a fever or they're irritable because, you know,

they have gotten all these vaccines. Mom's told to give Tylenol, the Tylenol depletes the child's liver of the way that they would normally detoxify from things like aluminum and all the other crap, the adjuvants that are in the vaccines, and therefore is unable to deplete those things the way they normally would fight them off, the way they normally would because of the Tylenol, but it was really the adjuvants, the things in the vaccine themselves that is causing the problem. Is that? Yeah, that basically knocks it right on the head. Okay, okay.

You know, so it was somewhat, how long ago was it that, you know, Bobby Kennedy and Trump came out at a press conference or whatever in the Oval Office and, you know, proposed this idea that it was actually the Tylenol. And I think people lost, you know, they lost the plot there because it became, oh, it's the Tylenol issue as if it had nothing to do with the vaccines. You know, it's pretty important to say that if you get, it's the vaccines are the primary problem still, not the Tylenol. Right, right, because when we look at case reports of autism regression or developmental regression, we only see them usually after large batteries of vaccines, not after taking a few pills of Tylenol. You know, I haven't seen a case report of solely Tylenol induced developmental regression. But, yeah, it could occur, you know, I just haven't seen it reported. And, yeah, again, I think that is for that case. How do you isolate that?

Yeah, so basically we would have to do a study that completely accounts for vaccination and Tylenol use. The studies that have looked at Tylenol have never considered vaccination as a variable, not one of them. Right. So for example, you know, you take a child who hasn't just been vaccinated or hasn't been getting vaccines and is teething. You give that child Tylenol, those kids don't, we don't have gobs of reports of kids. becoming suddenly autistic after getting a toast of dylanol while teething. You have gobs of them instead where the mom's saying he got his MMR, he came home, was fussy that night, and the next day didn't make eye contact again. You know, that you see a lot of. So I think truly, you know, the stuff that you and I, I'll speak for myself, that I wrote off years and years ago,

10, 15 years ago as just, you know, craziness, you know, there's no association between back vaccines and autism, I think was wrong. Those mothers, what those mothers were reporting was correct. Those moms were seeing something that was correct. My child was fine. He got the vaccines plus minus Tylenol and had this developmental regression. You don't see that, as I said, at least anecdotally, Nick, with regard to kids getting Tylenol for something else, you know, for a fever of other source, not related to the vaccine, teething, you know, anything else. Correct. Yeah, we don't see it. I mean, it's an oral dose. Yeah, it's toxic, but, you know, it's not the same as directly injecting now 32 doses by age two of toxic materials directly through

vaccination programs, including, you know, aluminum, formaldehyde, neomycin, and fetal DNA fragments that can actually integrate into the host genome. Before we move under the cancer piece, because I want to talk about that too, touch on for anybody who is not aware, Nick, if you would, the Vax-unvax populations and what the data show in those populations. Yeah, so basically every single time there's a study. There's been about 13 of them that compares vaccinated children to completely unvaccinated children, the vaccinated children are always sicker across most, if not all, chronic disease

categories. The strongest one is the Henry Ford birth cohort study. It's the largest ever done that was revealed in a Senate hearing last September. It was never published because they were afraid to publish it. They didn't want to lose their jobs. And so we published a reanalysis of that study. We looked at just the raw proportions between vaccinated and unvaccinated children. The vaccinated children were sicker across all 22 chronic disease categories, including autism, including cancer, cancer by 54%. It was 54% higher in the vaccinated children, neurodevelopmental disorders, ADHD, ticks, learning disabilities, speech disorders, asthma, diabetes, And then some of these things were only in vaccinated children.

There were zero cases in the unvaccinated. So it's very concerning and it's very undeniable. And so what we need to commission now is large-scale vaccinated versus completely unvaccinated studies. They have to be done. And yeah, and there's been a pushback. I mean, our CDC should have done that. This is not exactly rocket science in terms of understanding the study that needs to be done, right?

I mean. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And I've got to take a break here, guys. And apologies for stepping on people because it's with three of us, the timing is kind of weird. But before I let you, before we go to break, Nick, I don't understand where you come into, what is the nature of the criticism you come under? Because I find your work to be very even-handed and cyclopedic, thoughtful.

you're not really, I mean, you may not end up in a place that some people like, but that's fine. That's not always the way medical literature goes. It doesn't always prove our biases or our preconcensored, our preconceived ideas. Where are you coming under heat? Where do people attack you? Yeah, well, people attack me every day, no matter of the topic I post on. I see it. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm stepping on a lot of big interests. But I'm wondering if there's a theme. Is there a theme here? Or are these bots? Or it's just odd to me. What's the theme? Some are bots. It's usually towards the vaccine-related topics.

That's really when they deploy a large-scale attacks. And, you know, but the thing is, we just have studies coming out every week now, demonstrating that we're, in fact, correct. And so they can't keep attacking it forever. Right. Well, the military adage, as you well know, Nick, is you'll always take the most shrapnel when you're directly. over the target, you know, and you are. There's no question. You've ruffled the feathers of

Big Pharma and the people who make their living based on them. So, you know, stay strong. You know you're doing the right thing. Definitely. Thank you. Let's discuss, Kelly, when we get back, what's on your hit parade? I think there's so many different studies we could dig into. Yeah, I want Nick, to be able to talk a little bit about the cancer-related study and what's being found in those in the in the in the tumors okay fair enough we will do that when we return dr drew here fatty 15 was discovered working with the navy's fleet of dolphins a brilliant veterinary epidemiologist realized that dolphins deficient in this odd chain fatty acid were helped by replacing that fatty acid they didn't get the conditions turns out humans have similar

deficiencies. It supports healthy glucose metabolism. It gets into the cell membrane and decreases the pool of available oxidizable species that can lead to ferroposis. So it is considered the longevity nutrient. If you'd like yours, go to doctor.com slash fatty 15. I don't see the profession doing anything to really build trust beside you. Happy to be on here. Thank you for having me. You and I see the world the same way. What is it like for you to be the most chiseled and best-looking man in media? Giving us the information we need. Thank you for the truth. My pleasure. We are going to take your calls at 8333-3-D-R-A-W. I'm to Kelly Victory and Nick Holscher with us for the remainder of the show. But I would suggest anybody who wants to take aim at Nick Holscher, read what he puts out. And then be very specific about your criticism because I just find your material while, you know, I worry always with any medical literature that we're arriving in the right place.

But it's very hard to be critical of your efforts because they are, as I said, is extensive. But let's talk about the cancer issue, Kelly. Yeah. So, Nick, I'll let you really take it. But it's my understanding that we have more and more evidence that in certain solidity, tumor, solid tumor cancers, that we are finding evidence of the mRNA or of the COVID vaccines. That's my very loose understanding. Is that true?

Did you get that, Nick? Yeah, yeah. So basically, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So this is the smoking gun. This is the smoking gun for turbo cancers. And I say that because we have identified a turbo heart cancer case. that had a tumor doubling time of 10 days.

Okay, this was a 35-year-old man. He took two Pfizer doses. They were both E batches. E basically stands for extreme death risk because 96 out of 100 of the top lethal batches started with E. So he received these MRI injections, and then about 100 days later, he went to the ER and they found a giant cardiac

sarcoma that was filling up his left atrium. He got a booster and then it spread to his brain and he died because of bleeding into his brainstem. The tumors were absolutely giant in his brain. And so what we did was then we looked inside of preserved cardiac sarcoma tissue. This was preserved and we shipped it to a laboratory in Germany that can look for vaccine. components. We found inside this turbo heart cancer tumor, literally Pfizer plasma DNA fragments, including the three spike encoding segments of the DNA plasmid, as well as the origin of replication

sequence on the plasma. These were literally inside of that tumor, and it's quite unequivocal. We find the, we find that, we find the weapon at the scene of the crime now. And so turbo, cancer is not a myth. It's very real. And it's my understanding, Nick, that although this one was a very dramatic case, this isn't the only one. There have been other tumors that likewise have evidence of COVID, whether it's the RNA or the spike protein or, you know, plasma DNA in there. Correct. Correct. There's two other key cases here. The other, the key, or the biggest other one, I would say is we actually published it last year. And we found a segment of vaccine genetic material actually integrated into the genome of a stage

four bladder cancer patient. We looked in our circulating tumor DNA. In chromosome 19, we found a 20 base pair segment of the Pfizer DNA Plasmid reference sequence. And so that was another smoking gun paper. Again, that was a turboblatter cancer. and a 31-year-old woman. And then the other smoking gun paper is they found,

this was by Professor Sano in Japan, he found vaccine spike protein directly inside of metastatic breast cancer tumors. And so, you know, these cases will continue to mount up as, you know, more and more people, unfortunately, die from these turbo cancers. We actually just published the most comprehensive paper to date, looking at the link between MRNA technology and cancer,

and we found this 35 distinct mechanisms by which MRNA could induce or accelerate cancers. And we've looked at population data, CDC wondered mortality data. We looked, we saw that from 2021, right after the vaccines rolled out, there's been 150,000 more cancer deaths than normal in the United States. So people are dying faster of cancers. So it's accelerating the cancers at the

population level. One of the things that I said before all this data was available, Nick, early, early in the vaccine program. I said there are three huge lies that were being told. This was right in the first months. I said, number one, they're telling us that that shot stays in your deltoid muscle, which is preposterous. We know from the biode. distribution study. By the way, I witnessed, I witnessed you saying these things. This is exactly what happens. Keep going. I said, I said, lie number one, it stays near deltoid. That's ridiculous. We know from the, you know, biodistribution study that they knew that it goes everywhere within a matter of hours. Number two, we were told that it would be eliminated from the body, quote, in a matter of days. We knew that wasn't true at the time. And Eunich and others have proven that it remains in the body now for upwards of three and a half years. because that's as long as the studies have gone. That line number two. And big fat lie number three that I said early on us,

we were told no way, know how could the MRNA be incorporated into the genome. And now that is the piece that you and others have proven, not only that it can be, but that it clearly is happening, and that that is one of the drivers of the turbo cancers that we are seeing now. So, but the tragedy of all this. Yeah, the, yeah, the tract.

The tragedy of this true is that, as I said, I said this with you, I said this in 2020. Yeah. Yeah, Kelly, Kelly not only said that, she also said social distancing made up. Go to my textbooks, try to find social distancing in there anyway. This is all 2020. And then you said, then as this time went on, probably another three months, then you finally said, these are not mistakes my government is making. It's lies my government is telling me. Right. Exactly. And there's a big difference. And, you know, so I give it to you. You know, I said these things. Yeah. And now, and I'm relying on Nick because now I've got Nick actually doing the heavy lifting to prove it. And what's pissing them off, Nick, and the reason they were coming after you is because I said these things, but I didn't have the body of evidence to back me up. They're just always just that crazy Dr. Kelly Victory saying stuff on TV again. You know, you now are putting it. into a scientific paper, peer-reviewed, getting out to publication, you are now documenting those things that I said and proving them to be true, and that's why they're pissed.

I do want to ask about the Israeli study, too, because I'm watching the clock here, you posted something indicating that the Israeli government, I'm sure there are others, too. I'm not picking on the Israelis hardly, but you have some evidence that they whitewashed some of their early data. Can you talk about that a little bit? Yeah, so this is another shocking development. So basically this peer-reviewed, this was a peer-reviewed study. It came out a few days ago. And basically they obtained a internal data set from the Israel Ministry of Health that was not disclosed to anybody, but the author somehow obtained it. And they found that Israel was aware of hundreds of COVID vaccine linked deaths and hospitalization, hundreds of them, many of them among

children and teens. And all they did was they secretly alerted the CDC and they reported it to Pfizer. They didn't tell the public for months. They didn't tell anybody. And when they did tell the public, they said it was mild and transient, despite the fact that they had documented the fatalities. and that is that is not that's not mild under any circumstance so basically what this indicates and now it's actually corroborated by what senator ron johnson just uncovered that our FDA covered up 25 major COVID shot safety signals including sudden cardiac death of pulmonary infarction and heart attacks and strokes both of this now shows that there appears to have been a coordinated global operation to cover up COVID vaccine, injuries, deaths, and disabilities.

So I admit that. So you're saying that the Israeli government wasn't denying it happened. They actually reported it. They reported it to our CDC surreptitiously, and they reported it to Pfizer itself. So they were clearly aware that there was an association between these events, whether it's deaths or adverse events and the vaccines. They simply were keeping it from the public. Correct. Keeping it from the public. And so that means they're all implicated. All of these countries that had these data and they didn't tell the public, they're all implicated in covering it up because the most important thing would have been for them to tell the public. But what they claim is they didn't want to decrease or they didn't want to increase vaccine hesitancy, they call it. Yep. Absolutely ridiculous. They'd rather sacrifice people or injure them than to cause vaccine hesitancy. We saw it. We saw it. One of the things that has cleared Dr. Victory's declarations about the government lying is the Fauci Diary.

And the same thing is true of this how they were distorting things to avoid hesitancy. And it was worse than I thought. And there it is in black and white. You see him documenting it. And God only knows it may have been worse. I mean, that's just what's documented. Right. That's what he planned to put in his book.

I mean, there may have been behind the scenes stuff. It was worse. Exactly. You know, Nick, in the little bit of time that we've got here, pivot just slightly to the, okay, we're talking about COVID. Talk about the MRNA platform in general. We are saying here, inexplicably, the FDA just approved Moderna's new MRNA-based influenza shot despite the fact that it showed 2.5 times higher deaths and six times

higher incidents of severe adverse events than other than the non-MRNA flu vaccines. What is, you know, where are we going with the MRNA? And do you think that there's any use for the, I know how I feel about it, but do you think that there's any way that they can say that the MRNA platform at this juncture is safe? No, we can't, we can't say it's safe. And so first of all, they've rolled it out for COVID. Now they've rolled out MRNA for RSV, and then they just rolled it out for flu,

and then they're trying to roll it out for cancer. With flu, we published a reanalysis of the FDA briefing document they used to approve MFluCiva, Modern's MRNA flu shot. And like you just mentioned, we found two and a half times higher risk of unexplained deaths in the MFluceva group compared to a traditional flu shot. that was statistically significant. But the biggest thing we found was that we did a risk benefit analysis to prevent one flu hospitalization, according to their own data. 5,000 people had to get enflusiva, but 4,000 people had to suffer an adverse reaction. About 300 had to suffer

disabling grade three reactions, and two people had to die unexplained death. So that's a form of human sacrifice. We set that to Secretary Kennedy. He confirmed receipt of it. And now it does look like that thankfully the CDC will not be recommending empliceva this year. So that's a small win, not a big win. We would like to see market removal of this hazardous product. It's a danger to public health with no benefits. Patients are confused about this. Every day patients are asking me, what should I get? I'm going to just get what you always got. Get the If this worked for you, do you stay with the adenovacine? That's it.

Because Nick, you know, Nick did this incredible reanalysis of the data that caused them to now say that, okay, we won't put it on the recommendation list, but they didn't remove the approval. You know, it's still FDA. How the hell do you FDA approve something with absolutely abysmal safety data? And it wasn't around. It wasn't tested long enough to prove efficacy. So we don't know anything about efficacy, but from a safety perspective, it fails the test, you know, horribly.

So, yes, they're, quote, not putting it on the recommendation list, but that's a small, you know, it's a small win. I just, I don't understand it. I don't. Yeah. It's not enough. It's not enough. You know, we should, the FDA should never approve a product that requires 4,000 people to suffer an adverse event to prevent one hundred. one hospitalization. That should not be how it works. And so whoever's involved with those approvals,

they have serious conflicts of interest with MRNA technology development, including David Caslow, who is one of the main people involved in that approval. And so, you know, it's very worrisome that they're putting the public at major risk here. And you're right, people are going to be confused, right? And I just saw a commercial, a Moderna commercial, telling everybody to go get them fluceiva, and they didn't disclose any of these risks. And so that should be illegal. And the other thing is, is that they act as if you're only, look, I've been a physician for more than 35 years. I've never gotten a flu shot in my life. Okay. The issue, they act as if, oh my God, there's no other way to treat in flu. The only hope you have is to get this vaccine

that will prevent you from getting it. Look, I don't want to get the flu and end up in bed for two weeks. I was pretty darn sick with something, you may recall Drew last November, as sick as I've been in probably a couple decades, and it probably was influenza. Okay, I got over it in a period of about five days. There's also other, there are antivirals out there. There are ways to, you know, to prevent, certainly prevent you from developing a bacterial super infection on top of a viral infection. We have antibiotics. They act as if your only hope is their vaccine. Yeah, exactly.

That's exactly how they act. And it's just not true. Intramuscular injection of messenger RNA is not going to predict you from a respiratory pathogen very well. And so, yeah, we got, and then with MRI and cancer, this is the last recent breaking development, Bioentech had to terminate their MRI cancer vaccine trials because it killed too many cancer patients. There was more deaths in the MRI group.

compared to doing nothing. So that's another worrisome MRI development. I mean, think about that. Just think about that. There were more deaths from the vaccine. I know. It's the one place I had hoped for the technology was in cancer.

I don't know what that's all about now, but it certainly makes you, gives you pause before exposing yourself to that stuff. Yeah, one of the other things you may recall, Drew, that I said from the very beginning was that I thought one of the goals, if it were, of the, of the, of the pandemic, was to make MRNA household word, to make, to force the mandates and therefore make, make people believe that, oh, MRNA, you know, that's been around for forever. It's, you know, it's safe, it's tried,

it's tested, it's, it's good for everybody, pregnant people, little people, little people, you know, take two, take five, you know, as if it's, and to make it to normalize it. And I said that from the very beginning. There's a reason that they want to cram this one down everybody's throats, because then it's, the doors are open. The floodgates will open for everything MRI. And that's exactly what you're seeing. You know, we are seeing despite the overwhelming evidence of the harms from the COVID shots, it's game on. It's, you know, MRI for everything. There's, there's going to be an MRI shot for baldness. You just wait. It's coming. No, it's coming. there's going to be an MRNA shot for pretty much everything.

And I just, you know, Nick, you've got your finger on the pulse on this better than I do. Where do you see this go? I mean, do you see them stopping or pulling back? No, I don't. They're too entrenched in the regulatory agencies and they're going full steam ahead. And you're right. They're working on MRNA for over 50 different types of diseases, all sorts of chronic diseases, asthma. you know, genetic disorders, and then every single infectious disease, rabies, and even rabies.

I mean, they approved the self-amplifying RNA particle shots for dogs and cats in 2024. And so they've pumped it up into our pets now, and they're not stopping. And the only way to stop it would be to halt the most dangerous ones when there's a chance. And so that was with AmpluC, but it was so obvious. with the FDA's own data showing it's extremely dangerous. That has to be the time. This has to be the time we stop it. And if we don't, it may be too late.

Yeah, and spot on. I mean, exactly, Nick. And I think the answer, Drew, what I tell patients is, and they say, if I go and get a tetanus shot, is it going to be an MRI shot, Dr. Victory, or if I go to get a flu shot, is it going to be on and say, it isn't if you demand it. You need to say,

I do not, if you want a flu shot, and that's up to you, people, personal choice. But if you want to take a flu shot, I suggest that you say, I do not want the new moderna flu shot. I want a standard shot if you choose to take one. Like currently, tetanus and those things are not yet MRI, but you have a right to ask those things. You know, anytime somebody suggests. It's strongly urged people to participate in their care.

You see what happens when you leave it up to the, particularly the public health side of things. You leave it up to the public health community. It goes very sideways. Guys, I have to wrap this up. One last comment is I really, I don't know if I'm allowed to even talk about your natokinase article, but I want people to read that when it comes out. It is a tour de force on that topic. Do you anticipate that to be released anytime soon?

Yeah, hopefully within the next two weeks maximum, we'll have that very, very comprehensive paper out explaining many, many benefits of natalkinase, particularly for COVID vaccine injuries and amyloid blood clots. Awesome. Yeah. Fantastic. Very interesting. Very interesting. I am deeply appreciative of both of you, not just for the work you do, but if you're willing to come here and share with us. And, you know, one of the, we've been through this very strange time when it's hard to know the truth.

But I've been urging people to look at people who predict and are right. So both of you have a excellent track record that way. And so people might want to listen to you. That's all I'm saying. Might want to take a look at that direction to see if they continue to be right. Well, I appreciate the platform. As always, Drew, thanks for having me. And Nick, I appreciate everything you are doing.

You have been tour to force, as Drew said, with regard to cranking out and documenting all of this. So thank you and keep up the good work. Well, thank you. And thanks for having me. Guys, I'll see you soon. Thank you for being here. Sounds good. Thanks.

Cheers. All right. Upcoming, Dr. Simone Gold, Chandruel, that is on Thursday, which day after tomorrow, that'll be our normal time 2 o'clock. Lindy Lee, who's a turncoat. We'll talk to her. Mary Talley Borden is in here. She's been in the sort of active online lately as well. James Lindsay, there's so much coming up.

I'm seeing Alex Jones potentially on the list here. I know people are big fans of Alex. And Winston Marshall, we had to reschedule him, but he is on the schedule now. So look forward to all that. There is so much coming your way. Let me quickly look at the restream. See if you guys are commenting. You guys have been very active today.

Shedding. We did not talk about shedding. That's another topic and the blood supply is another topic. There's many things to talk about here. Dell Bigtree has been right a lot. We should bring Doug Dell back in here. And thank you a little bit of fun. I think that's what your tag is.

Love Liberty. Okay. Thank you all for your love for Dr. Victory. And Nick, they try hard. Their heart is in the right place. Trust me. I know these people. They are not trying to build themselves.

up or to dissuade you or to sort of delude you in any way they're trying to bring the truth. And it's hard. It's very hard to do that. And sometimes you're going to be wrong. And when we get wrong, I think it's important that we acknowledge it and correct course and apologize if it's appropriate. And that's how things move forward. No one gets everything right 100% of the time. Caleb, anything on your concerns? Well, I wanted to mention it's not even just that they were right, but they lost a lot. These guys have been saying this from 2020 forward and they were kicked off of social media,

even Dr. Kelly Victory, before Elon bought Twitter and turned it into X. She was kicked off the platform. So they put a lot on the line to say this stuff. Yeah. And let's look back at it now and acknowledge where, and really acknowledge them for the efforts they have made. And if they're wrong in the future, okay,

they may be wrong about certain things. And I'm sure I will be. And I'll try to point it out where I am. and thank you for patience with those of us that are trying to get it right. And yeah, meantime, we'll keep plugging away. Appreciate you all being here. Again, we are back on Thursday at 2 o'clock, and we will see you then. Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Caleb Nation and Susan Pinsky.

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