Ask Dr. Drew - Tylor Chase: Shaun Weiss (Mighty Ducks) Got Ned’s Declassified Star Into Rehab… But California Keeps Releasing Him Back On The Streets To Smoke Meth w/ Tyler Merritt & Frank Morano – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 573

Episode Date: January 9, 2026

After a viral video found “Ned’s Declassified” star Tylor Chase homeless on the streets of California and addicted to meth, actor Shaun Weiss (child star from Mighty Ducks) says he arranged for a detox bed and long term treatment. Tylor was placed on a 72-hour hold – but unfortunately, due to CA’s overly permissive laws on homelessness and addiction, Tylor was “inexplicably released.” “They were supposed to hold him,” Shaun told TMZ. “Instead, they let him out without contacting any of us.” Weiss, who previously struggled with homelessness and addiction himself, says countless others have tried to help Tylor, including his own family who has reportedly spent tens of thousands of dollars trying to get him to stay in rehab. But Weiss tells TMZ that Tylor’s addiction continues to land him back on the streets, even “smoking meth during the evaluation with no shoes or jacket in the freezing cold.” Shaun Weiss is an actor best known for his role in The Mighty Ducks films. Weiss is an advocate for recovery, relapse prevention, and ending addiction-driven homelessness. Learn more at https://shaunweiss.com⠀Frank Morano is a New York City Council member and part of the Common Sense Caucus. He focuses on public safety, homelessness, and government accountability. Follow at https://x.com/frankmorano⠀Tyler Merritt is a retired U.S. Army Captain, Apache helicopter pilot, and Founder and CEO of Nine Line Apparel. He also founded the Nine Line Foundation, which supports veterans through housing, job training, and community programs. Follow at https://x.com/CptTylerMerritt 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 • AUGUSTA PRECIOUS METALS – Thousands of Americans are moving portions of their retirement into physical gold & silver. Learn more in this 3-minute report from our friends at Augusta Precious Metals: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/gold⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or text DREW to 35052 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/fatty15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/paleovalley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • VSHREDMD – Formulated by Dr. Drew: The Science of Cellular Health + World-Class Training Programs, Premium Content, and 1-1 Training with Certified V Shred Coaches! More at https://drdrew.com/vshredmd • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twc.health/drew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠) and Susan Pinsky (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/firstladyoflov⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠e⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Executive Producers • Kaleb Nation - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • Susan Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/firstladyoflove⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Content Producer & Booking • Emily Barsh - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/emilytvproducer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Hosted By • Dr. Drew Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/drdrew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All right. We're going to talk a little homelessness today, the manic conversation, the substance use with Charlie Sheen, was a little bit of a warm up here. Sean Weiss, actor best known for his role in the Mighty Duck films. He had himself struggle with addiction and some homelessness and has had a great recovery. And he's been advocating for prevention and treating addiction. And he started a whole campaign for Tyler Chase

by just putting up an Instagram post about what kind of condition that poor kid is in. Talk about that. Then Frank Marano, he's a New York City Council member, Common Sense Caucus. He focuses on Public Safety, Homelessness. We'll talk about that in New York. We just left New York last night, and there's a lot going on in that town. And then finally, Tyler Merritt, retired U.S. Army Captain, Apache Helicopter Pilot,

founder and CEO of Nine Line Apparel. He is, we're going to talk about amongst other things, the veterans piece of all this, which I'm actually kind of confused by. So I want to get in deep with that. I'm glad he's here. Back right up to this. with Sean Weiss. Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre.

The psychopaths start this. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction. Fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous. I'm a doctor for, I say, where the hell you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals.

Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Loveland all the time, educate adolescents, and to prevent and to treat, do you have trouble? You can't stop and you want to help stop it. I can help. I got a lot to say. I got a lot more to say. All right.

I think some of you remember Sean Weiss from the Mighty Duck films. He can be found at Sean Weiss.com. Sean is S-H-A-U-N-W-E-I-S-S. His YouTube channel is Sean Weiss Comedy 48-18. I'll have to figure out what the numbers are all about. And Instagram is just plain old Sean Weiss. He has, let's see, I think you can go to his Instagram also.

I'll find out what that is in a second. But he had his own story with substances, which I want to hear. And then we're going to talk a little about Tyler Chase. Sean, I appreciate you being here. It's nice to be with you, Dr. Drew. So tell us, you know, what your personal sort of legacy was and what the history was, frankly, and then how you were able to get out of it. Well, I hadn't really seen a hard drug until my late 30s.

and I had a combination of events transpire at the same time. My father died. My fiance left me. I thought I was going to get married. And I lost my apartment. And this all happened within about a three week time. And I just, it was too much for me. And I lost it.

And I guess I kind of gave up on things. And I left a friend's house one night. I was staying on his couch. and he had a park next door to where he was living. And in the park were gangbangers selling meth. So I ended up in the park for a couple nights. And eventually I was looking for cocaine, I think. And I kept asking these guys, you have any cocaine?

You have any cocaine? And he said, now we got something better. And so I said no 10 times, but that 11th offer, I said yes. And from the very first time I hit a meth pipe, I didn't not smoke meth. for three years until I got arrested. It was just, it was, let's talk about that. People don't understand what meth does.

They don't understand the grip it gets on people, how easy it is, how sort of pernicious it is. People could even be functioning on meth for a while, and then it just, it takes you, but here's so many people don't understand. Why does it take you to the streets? Why so quick to the streets on meth, smoking meth?

Well, a couple things. First of all, it was a performance enhancer before it was a crippling addiction. I mean, it definitely helped keep me up and help me focus on things. But here's a really fascinating aspect of this. And I learned this in treatment one day. We were watching a video,

and it was on something they called the hedonic scale. And this scale sort of measures somebody's pleasure throughout the course of the day. So you have Joe is going about the course of his day. It's a fine day. His number on the scale is 80. Now, if Joe's got a hot date with the woman of his dreams that night,

his number is 100. But if Joe takes a hit off a meth pipe, that number is 1,200. So that's what you're dealing with. It's like a tremendous state of euphoria, and I've found that in treatment, it's incredibly hard to get an addict to not want to experience 1,200 again.

You know, you can get somebody to that thing for a while. It takes away your hedonic tone when you're come off. So for years afterwards, that 80 you used to be able to get with the sunny day is like a 20 if you're lucky. Absolutely. It was a conscious exercise of mine in the early stages of my recovery where I told myself, look, I got to be able to have fun watching a football game. I got to train myself again to enjoy normal things. And it was definitely a process and it was a discipline.

But I got back to where, you know, I can enjoy the simple things. But yeah, for sure, it robs you of the ability to just have a normal day. And you don't even feel well without it. I think that's the real thing that brings somebody into the grasp is that you get sick when you don't have it. And, oh, man, like I, you know. I don't know that, though, but then you get sick with it. They say you start. It looks, we're looking at a picture of you from 2020.

It looks like you were, you might have been in a low level psychotic state. What was that like? And why didn't that get your attention? Well, it was 100%. I mean, if you're somebody, I mean, I was stealing $900 a day worth of merchandise to support my habit. So that's definitely psychotic. And I think, you know, the, what really got me almost more than the meth was the lack of sleep. I mean, I probably was out there for months.

sometimes I didn't sleep. And so you just create a condition of psychosis for yourself. It's very hard to dig yourself out of it. And in the case of Tyler, I feel that's sort of very much the position that he's in. Like if he could think, you know, if he could get to a place where he's thinking with a clear head for a little bit, I think he would decide to go to treatment, right? I mean, that was the difference between us. When I got in trouble and the judge told me, listen, it's either you go to jail for

three years or you try drug treatment. I had wanted to get clean for a while. And Tyler's just not in that place yet. And he's at a spot now where I'm not sure that he knows that he should be suffering. And that's just a dangerous place to be in. Right. That's what meth does. It blocks the insight into what it has done to you. Fentanyl does the same thing. I suspect he's probably chipping on fentanyl also. And so, so, You can't see what's happening to. It actually has a name. It's called Anisagnosia.

And in this state, that is privileged in the law. That is privileged in the law. So you, Sean, you go try to help him. He runs away from treatment. Too bad, Sean. That's just the way it goes. He's living his best life. Don't you understand that?

That's it, Dr. Drew. And in fact, you know, he's been taken in two times. There's been mental health crisis teams that have evaluated him. and taking him into custody with an ambulance. And they're supposed to keep him. And after a couple days, they just let him back out onto the street. The last time they did that, I heard it was because he passed a psych evaluation. So they might have to reassess what the psych evaluation is.

But Sean, here's the way the psych evaluation goes. Do you want to kill yourself? Well, sometimes. You have a plan to kill yourself? No. You want to kill somebody else? No. Do you have a place to live?

I have a tent on. Fifth Avenue. Do you have a place to eat? Yeah, they bring oranges around. I can panhandle. And I don't want to be here. That's it. That's a psychavow. And you have to let them go when they say that. It's insane. Or they could say, Sean, I want to kill myself. I have a knife in my 10. I'm going to do it when I get there. And five minutes later say, you know what? I was just kidding. You have to let them go. That's how messed up the laws are in California. That's how messed up they are. And we used to have a condition called gravely disabled. You don't think he's gravely disabled, for God's sakes.

We take it away gravely disabled as a condition to help people. It's effing nuts. I didn't know that. Yeah, I didn't know that. Nuts. Please, please take up advocacy. There are people going to Sacramento all the time. Families begging for the right to bring their loved one into treatment.

They have a bed. They have a doctor. They have resources. Go to hell is what they're told. They're told just to take a hundred. It's disgusting what's going on in this state. If somebody was standing there with a gun pointed at their own head ready to pull the trigger, we would definitely step in and intervene.

And I don't think there's much of a difference between that and Tyler's situation right now. There's no difference. There's no difference. One is negligent manslaughter or even negligent murder, and the other is active suicide. But guess what? Let me tell you again about the psych about the psycho. If he takes that gun down from his head and hands it to the psychiatrist, And he even says, I have access to guns whenever I want, but I don't want to kill myself anymore. They have to let them go.

That's how insane it is in this. It's insane. Apparently, a friend of mine told me a physician yesterday said to him that she was saying, oh, you got to let drug addicts do drugs, if they want to do them, blah, blah, blah. This harm avoidance bullshit, which think about where you would be, if that judge adhered to the harm avoidance, you'd still be on, you'd be dead. You'd be dead. I'd be dead, doctor, everyone. Yeah. So my friend goes, well, what if, what if that same patient is running down the street naked with a machete? Well, if they're psychotic, they're probably happier that way. Let them be. That's what the doctors are saying. It's naughty cuckoo. It's really, we've gone into some alternative universe here.

Yeah, I've had all sorts of situation where it just didn't make sense. For instance, one time I was in Northern California and I went to this treatment place for help. And they said, said because there's some, you know, paperwork situation that I couldn't get treatment. And I said, well, what am I supposed to do? I'm about to be dope sick. And I want to quit drugs. What do I do? And they actually recommended that I go and score just enough, just enough dope to get me through to Monday to when they could, they could intake me. So I don't know. That's the, that's a slightly different problem. That's actually a problem we could deal with because that's a problem of resource. We don't have enough beds. We don't have enough. And so we're often telling people, well, yeah, you're going to get dope sick. So is there any way you can go flop on someone's couch and buy just

enough heroin for the weekend? And we'll see you on Monday. That's not uncommon. That's not uncommon. Yeah, no, I couldn't believe that that was their professional advice to me that I should go score just enough. uncommon. Knowing that I would have to go steal from a store to go and do that. So, you know, that's the other thing. That's the other thing we have in saying here is you, you're allowed to steal to support your habit. You're allowed to traffic. You're allowed to possess. And we, I mean, let's say you got addicted here in California. Let's say you got addicted in Indiana. How long before you came out here? I mean, instantly, I would have been here the first couple weeks. And you know,

No, Dr. Dorex, I thought about it, and it definitely did contribute to the amount of time I was out there because I was able to lift this lifestyle. And because I never got arrested. And when I did, you know, I had a couple wheels, a bed over my head, and then they would let me right back out. So it's a very complicated situation, but I think it stems from, you know, not understanding. It's not, Sean. Yeah, it's from not understanding. It's exactly right. It's not complicated.

I treated this for 30 years. It's very simple. If I had found you out on the street and I could say, Sean, let's go. Come on, let's go. I got a great place for you. We're going to keep it there for about three weeks. It's beautiful. Got nurses.

You're like it. Just hang out with us. No big deal. If at the end of those, that month, you want to go back out on the street, fine, whatever. That's up to you. But let's, let's do something here. You can't lie on the street. You can't steal.

You can't do that. Let's go. That's all you got to do. And guess what? You would have come with me. You would have come with me. After three weeks, you would have, of course. You would have three weeks you'd clear enough that you could start to go, huh, maybe I should stick with this for a while.

And then we'd set up a residential program for a year for you. How long do you stay in treatment after it was all said and done? I was at residential for 90 days. They couldn't get rid of me, Dr. Drew. It was just like you said, they had big screen TVs and jacuzis. And I had been homeless for three years. So I was happy to be there. So I stayed there for 90 days and then I went into sober living for three whole years.

So, there you go. I think what we ought to do to your point, to your point about residential care, we ought to, we had to do residential for a year routinely. And then I know RFK Jr. wants to set up these work farms at a set of sober living work where you go and you bail hay and you work. You do stuff and you do work on your sobriety and you go to meetings and you, you know, have some therapeutic sessions. But you're doing stuff all the time and that's where you'd stay for a year or two. I mean, most people would get well. if they did that program. I agree with you.

Dr. Drew, I sent you an email a while ago after we had met at dopecon. And these were some of the things I was talking about. I think any treatment program that's 30 days or 60 days, it's a joke. Like, that is not enough time

to rewire or recover somebody that's, you know, addicted to drugs. It's enough time to maybe stabilize somebody. But expecting somebody to be treated and then go back into life after 30 or 60 days is unrealistic. And to your point, there's a part there that we miss after about 9 to 12 months.

You need vocational rehab. You need how to set up a checking account, how to get ID, how to clean up your criminal record, whatever that might be. I mean, that takes a while to get all that shit done. 100%. Yeah, I blew up my life very good. And it did take me a year to get my reestablish a checking account. get a new cell phone. It takes time.

But I would say up to at least a year, I was still in a fog. There was no way I could have gone out and got the job to support my self in Los Angeles. I really needed help. What are homeless people? They just need a home and a job. That's all. What are you talking about? What's wrong with you?

They're homeless. Don't you understand? Home with? They'll be fine. This is an insanity that is consuming us here. An insanity. Yeah, I never met, I mean, I met a very few people on the street that weren't there because they were on drugs. I mean, there were the few people, you know, the odd cases.

And then there's some people that sort of, they like it out there for some reason. But 95% of the people on the street. Yes, 90% or so are a drug addicted, alcoholic, whatever. And you know, even five percent have. Everyone, everyone I've made. in jail, 95% of the people I met in jail were there because of something they did while they were on drugs, trying to get drugs, or drugs. You're breaking my heart because we almost got to the point where we were going to build jails in such a way that we could turn them into kind of treatment centers for psych and drugs and stuff. And the L.A. County Board of Supervisors closed the whole plan down at the last minute.

We could have had something really interesting in place there. We fucked that up too. But there's something you were saying that I wanted to, lost it. Oh, so 90% are on drugs. 5% have serious mental illness, like they're schizophrenic and kind of wildly psychotic. And then there's this weird group,

and you tell me if you didn't run into this group, the absurd of anarchists on the street. It's the males between the age of 25 and 40, backpack and skateboard. Do you know those guys I'm talking about? Oh, yeah, 100%. I mean, those are good buddies of mine, because you can count on them because they wouldn't steal your backpack when you fell asleep,

but they were still out there homeless. Right, right, right. It's the weirdest damn thing. It's the weirdest damn thing. But we shouldn't be listening to those people either. Those are the ones that make a bunch of noise at the council meetings. And those are the last people we should be listening to. These are dangerous sociopaths.

Sorry, but that's who they are. And yes, they don't steal from you. Addicts will steal whatever's in your backpack and then spend the day looking for it with you. 100% yeah. I mean, I always have it stopped on. I mean, I walk sometimes I go through Best Buy and I have to tell myself, listen, you can, you have a debit card now. Don't put it in your backpack. Yeah.

Yeah, you have to be willing to live a certain kind of life. You have to, you have to get it together because any lying or bullshitting or stealing you'll end up using. I really feel like. Caleb, go ahead. It's from when you tried to help, Drew. You tried to help many times. And these activists always come out of the woodwork and they use their automated bots to send in hundreds of letters that all say basically the same thing protesting, Dr. Drew, trying to help the homeless of Los Angeles and then get the whole thing tossed out. There have been many times.

And it's not like you're doing it for money. You're not doing it. You're doing it literally to help. And then they try and wipe it away. And then guess what? Look at this. Has Los Angeles homeless problem gotten any better since all of these activists stopped your nomination? Look, since I did that.

Those activists make a lot of money doing that. Since I did that, 200,000 drug addicts died. Oh, that's that Jacqueline Cosbro. That woman should be ashamed of herself. Every chance I get, I shame her. She did not ask you what my credentials were, my training was, what I had the work I'd done in addiction. She'd asked none of that. She should be a shit.

It's the lowest level of journalism. And we are on the, scraping the bottom all the time now. And she should be, that is a disgusting article. She should be ashamed. She should be apologizing regularly to me for that and has yet to do so. But whatever. Any of that. So, Sean, you're pushing all my buttons today.

How are you doing otherwise? Everything okay in your program? Everything good. You helping other people? What's happening? I'm really doing, I feel the best I have since I was 16 or 17 years old. Really the secret to my recovery, Dr. Drew, is early on in the early stages, right when I got out of inpatient, I found a program called Inner Engineering. And it's by this guy, sad guru.

Have you ever heard of him? He's an Indian dude, long beard? No, but there are a lot of spiritual programs out there of different flavors that people hook, into and they could really help them. This was it for me. It was called Inner Engineering. And basically it started off with just a short yogic practice, right? And after six months, I started to wake up in the morning in a joyful mood.

And it used to take me all kinds of stuff to get out of bed, a 40 ounce and some pills and all kinds. And I started waking up in a joyful mood. So that has really been the game changer for me, Dr. Drew. is yoga. And also, I had an experience that made me aware that these states of euphoria that I had been spending my entire life reaching for, that I could achieve those exact states just by closing my eyes and turning inward and flipping those switches inside my brain by myself. Without that, I'm not sure I'd have been able to recover without relapsing. That was really the game change.

that he yeah i well stephen uh adler has done a similar program he was very and it's helped him remember susan he had that book and uh i remember that robert downy junior told me that how's he doing i haven't heard anything i hear he's doing well oh good uh robert downy junior told me that yogic practices really helped him uh and he had a he had a big monkey on his back too you know took a long time well i'll tell you what let's us take a little break here we're going to bring uh frank morano in here to talk a little about what's going on in New York. I hope he was listening to some of our frustration with what California is that New York does a slightly better job. And it's mostly because people don't want to freeze to death. So they're willing to come in. And once they get them in,

they help them a bit. So, but they're way under. I wonder how we just had a huge rain in California. I always wonder about the home. I know I heard about one woman who went down the river. But I wonder how we do. How did you do in the rain, Sean? Just going to the tent, right? That was the absolute worst, Dr. Drew. I never really had a tent. So when it rained, I would try to like get in other people's tents and sometimes they're friendly and other times they're not. So, but the winter was the worst. And I really told myself the winter, in the few days before I got off the street, I told myself, if I'm out here again next winter, I'm going to kill myself. Because it was just, it's just at 4 o'clock in the morning, it's a different kind of cold.

And it's also a different kind of cold after you've been out there for hours. So, I mean, yeah, I mean, it breaks my heart when I see homeless people outside at this time of year. It's so sad. All right. Other than your, what is your Instagram? It's the one thing I didn't have. My Instagram is just at Sean Weiss. And that's the best way to keep up with me.

And I'm doing stand-up comedy. and I go around speaking. So yeah. And then you have a YouTube, you have YouTube, Sean Weiss comedy, 4818? Yeah,

I mean, that's something that somebody else built for me a while ago. Thank you for promoting it, but it's not something that I use. I have a quick question. Fair enough.

What's that, Caleb? Yeah, so my question is, when you were, you know, very, very deep in your addiction,

like around, you know, 2018 through 2019, there was all of that negative press that was coming out. It was kind of constant. Do you think any of that negative media actually helped prompt you to go to rehab? Or did it have no effect at all on you?

Did you just not care at that point? Well, I'll tell you one thing. I never knew. I never heard, knew the media stories because I didn't have access to media. I didn't have a cell phone. Right. So I didn't know what the narrative was.

But I'll tell you this much, when I got arrested finally and I was sitting in a jail cell, and then I found out that I was on the news and that people were actually supportive and they cared about me, it's really what helped me get my shit together, if you will, because eventually, I didn't really have itself

to want to get better for, and so I started to get better for my fans. So for me, it was a tremendous benefit. I don't know how it's... I'm hoping is going to help Tyler. Although, although Caleb,

if you had run into Sean while, bring you, bring yourself back up here on the camera, if you had run into Sean out on the streets, here's what he would have been interested in. getting more drugs. That's what he would be interested in. And that's it.

And that's it. That's what he's interested in. And so when he's, when he's clearing and he sees the fan support, then it's very, very useful, I would imagine. I was hoping that all the media attention

is helping Tyler. Like at some point, something might click to like make him stay, but it hasn't gone far enough yet. He's still too far in it. He's got to be off drugs long enough to have a consciousness. Yeah,

he's out of his mind right now. It takes months. Well, what Frank's, what Sean is talking about, it can take a couple of weeks you start to think again. You know, you're sort of in the world. You're not clear.

You're still detoxing. It takes a year to clear, not even then, two years sometimes. But the first year, yeah, go ahead. Tyler's in a position. He's in a mindset where people think they can reach him and talk to him about Jesus. Yeah. And they're like, you know what God is in Jesus? And Tyler's like, yeah, he's sitting right here.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Does he have any drugs? Can he help me score? He's in my bag. That's what Tyler's going to be interested in. That's it.

They don't get it. People don't get how consumed you are. They don't get it. Are we going to keep him here for the next guest? Yeah, Sean will we bring Frank in here. Don't go away. Yeah, stay here, Sean. We have to sell some stuff in between.

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Are you doing stand-up? Are you out here now or where are you? I moved to Georgia from Los Angeles in February after being in L.A. for 25 years. and I love it. I love it out here. I mean, right now I'm in LA. I'm just here on business, but I love it out there in the woods, Dr. Drew. But, you know, I try to speak at facilities, and I offer my services to go out to facilities to speak, and nobody will have me. It's very strange. It's almost like, you know, there's, it's kind of like, I feel like about the treatment industry, Dr. Drew, remember how Chris Rock, he said that the

Money is not in the cure. It's in the comeback. And so I feel like that's a lot of what's going on out here in Los Angeles with the treatment facilities. I give you one small example. One of the most impactful aspects of the inpatient treatment I had was this neuroptherapy that they developed. They hook your brain up to, you know, this machine. And you look at some software, and it takes about a half an hour.

and they're actually rewiring your brain. The very first time I did this, very first session I had, the guy showed me a piece of paper, and it looked like one of those horse shack tests with just a jumbled mess of ink. And he says, this is what your brain looks like. And then on the final day, my 14th course of treatment,

he says, I want you to see your progress. And he held up a piece of paper. And he says, this is what your brain looks like now. And it looked like one of those geometric fractal, fractal objects in nature. So this was a tremendously helpful aspect, and I could feel it working. I could feel it making me more clear-headed and more calm and more balanced. And my long story short is I told that to the people that ran the facility that I went to.

I said, of all the aspects of things that we did there, this was what helped me most. And they told me that they had discontinued it. They don't offer that anymore. Right. It's very few places do. It's essentially neurobial feedback. I know a place in Florida that does it. I'm trying to get the name for you.

Yeah, when you see it in real life. It works for me. In terms of, shoot, I'm not finding. Brain. There's one called brain pain, I think. There's one called brain pains, I think, was the, there. Here it is. FHE health.

Is that correct? FH.E, Susan. Can you help me with that? Is that correct? Any event, the fact is neurobioseedback is very helpful, very useful. And to find a place that does do that, it's hard to find. So you should do so if you can find it. But I will tell you in L.A., my favorite programs are Cry Help and Impact House.

And actually, and Meadows has a place out here that was pretty good. but you could always head over to cry help and offer to speak. I bet they would have you in a millisecond. I know a lot of people do speaking over there. I'm going to take you up on. And these are bare bones. You know, the bare bones programs are the ones that it doesn't cost a lot of money to be there.

You've got to be motivated to stay. It's intense. And people come back to support it like yourself. I tried to get in cry help two or three times when I was out there. and they're just, the beds are filled. Sometimes it's a few weeks or a few months waiting with there. But I have heard wonderful things about that place. Well, you can go back and speak there, any of that, so you can be of service.

Sean, I appreciate. All right, see what you can do. I'll be surprised. It will impact me another one. But these places should be falling all over themselves to get, and maybe call Dave Dopey. He may know of places out in the east. that whole community is really coming together, the dopey community. If anybody's interested in that podcast, the dopey podcast, yeah.

They should have speaking tour managers for what you do. Well, it's hard to get around. Like I was just saying, in treatment done properly, it doesn't make a lot of money. It's not a money making thing. No, I'm just saying it's they don't have, they don't have money to do that kind of thing, but to give people help people travel and that kind of thing. I can represent those people. Yeah, right.

If they're making a lot of money, it's not going to be a good treatment for the most part. All right, my friend, good to talk to you. Say how to dopy. Let's get to the next dopeicon. Let's see if we can all show up, show up the dopycons. John, thank you so much. Yeah, New York. Bye, bye, doctor.

You got it. Absolutely. All right. My next guest is Frank Morano. He is a New York City Council member, part of the Common Sense Caucus. He is focused on homeless as public safety, government, accountability, for which there is almost done, you can follow on X, Frank Marano, M-O-R-A-N-O. Frank, thanks for being here.

Dr. Drew, thank you for having me. I'm a big fan, and I appreciate the opportunity to chat with you. So we've been in the city in Manhattan for the last week, and we saw all the goings on there. And if I were going to set up a sting operation to have someone establish these extreme ideologies in sort of local politics to prove how shitty they are. He's doing exactly what I think you should do to create total meltdown failure. But you tell me, what is it looking like in New York City from your perspective? Well, look, I'll say this for the new mayor.

You can't say that he was dishonest. You know, we've seen so many politicians, especially in New York and California, they campaign as one thing and they happen to be another. The mayor made no bones about the kind of mayor he was going to be, and he is living up to it. He is a socialist, socialist, a radicals radical. Almost every major appointment he's made, with the exception of police and fire, has been out of a playbook for the worst possible person that you could have for every one of these positions. For instance, this new position of tenant advocate that he's created is someone who's tweeted. publicly that property

ownership is white supremacy. The person whose his new corporation counsel is the architect of the right to shelter law which helped precipitate the whole migrant crisis that we're just now digging out of. And he's

now going to be the chief legal counsel for the city of New York, not just for the mayor, but for the city of New York. The number two lawyer is somebody who is in bed with al-Qaeda and has to offended literal terrorists. That's the person that's now defending the city's legal interest on the 25th anniversary of September 11th. It's disappointing to say the least. We're trying to

take the small victories where we can. We've got a very good police commissioner, for instance. Oh, good. Well, I'm surprised he hasn't disbanded the Common Sense Caucus, because common sense seems like a profound threat to some of his plans. But I want to know about, let's just, we've been talking about homelessness the last 40 minutes or so. So I, you know, getting around New York and seeing how the homeless sort of get on there, certainly there's plenty of homelessness. It was really bad during COVID. But for the most part, it feels like there are at least enough beds to take care of people when it gets cold. And my question would be, A, is that true? And B, is their treatment offered once they get into these facilities? Yes, I think for the most part,

that is true. Second, though, unfortunately, and this is not something that I can blame the current or the former mayor for, the courts have ruled now repeatedly, and you know this better than me, that the city authorities can't force you into treatment if you decline treatment. Now, I want to see broader use of Kendra's law. I don't believe that schizophrenia or violent mental illness is a civil right to be protected. I believe it's a disease. to be treated and when we allow people that are violently mentally ill, look, everybody's mental health could be improved. Certainly my mind can, I would venture to say even yours can, Dr. Drew,

but it's a very, very small group of people that are mentally ill to the point of being schizophrenic and violent. And that's when we get situations like what happened with Jordan Neely on the subway. And it's a tragedy for the people that have to encounter these folks. It's a tragedy for these people that are being left behind not getting treatment. And it's a tragedy for a good Samaritan like Daniel Penny that tries to save others. Right, right. I've been saying here in California, we privilege with some of the addiction,

particularly meth addiction, to some extent, fentanyl addiction, for sure, schizophrenia, bipolar mania. There's something called antisagnosia that develops, which is a block in insight. And we have privileged antisagnosia in the law. This biological phenomenon that happens in strokes, it happens in serious mental illness, illness that blocks the human's ability to see what's happening to them because of their mental illness, we decide we're going to protect that in the law. It's an insanity that has never existed in human history. But we're doing it in New York and California and Illinois. Yeah, this is exactly right. In the Giuliani era, and I'll admit that Giuliani was not handcuffed

by the courts the way recent mayors have been, they did not believe that you had a constitutional to sleep on the street. So if you were sleeping on the street as a homeless person because you were abusing substances, because you had no place to stay, because you were in need of mental health treatment, the police would basically take you to a shelter. And if you refused to go to a shelter, they would try to take you to a substance abuse treatment or mental health treatment. Those facilities still exist, lesser of them, because there was this movement to move away, from what people thought was the Willowbrook model, but really it wasn't. But there are fewer beds because of Andrew Cuomo and Bill de Blasio,

but there's still a significant number of mental health resources and substance abuse resources that we're not able to force these folks to take advantage of. Yeah, it's not even forcing. It's just motivating that. So you can't lie on the street. You've got to come with us. We've got a nice place for you. just listen to what's going on here for a few weeks.

Yeah. And it's so pathetic. You know, if the same symptom complex, meaning confusion, disorganization, psychosis, is caused by dementia, like a frontal temporal dementia or a louis body dementia, and you don't force that person into treatment, you've now committed patient abuse.

But the same symptoms caused by a different illness, you're not allowed to touch the patient. Same symptoms. One you have to treat, the other you're not allowed to treat. How insane is that? I think it's remarkably insane. And look, the new mayor has said some good things during the campaign trail about wanting to make more resources available for mental health treatment. But unfortunately, he stacked his administration with de Blasio alumni. And the de Blasio administration completely failed on this. They spent a billion dollars under what they called Thrive with the stated goal of improving mental health outcomes. It's not clear that that billion dollars was spent in any meaningful way. There were city council oversight committee hearings, led by Democrats, by the way, trying to figure out what that billion dollars was spent on.

There doesn't seem to be a noticeable improvement in the street at homeless or any measurable outcomes. Yeah, you mentioned the Willowbrough thing. People have this weird conception and profound misconception that, A, that one flew over the cuckoo's nest is about a modern psychiatric hospital. That was 75. We're coming in on 100 years ago. And let's remember, it was not a effing documentary. It was a fictional and sort of had a point of view that amplified the way psychiatric hospitals were from 50 years before the book was written primarily. So it's literally reporting we have in our head what a psychiatric hospital was like 100 years ago, not what they're like now.

For the same reason that every summer, people need to be reminded that Jaws is a fictional documentary for the same reason that every ninth grader needs to be reminded that whales don't really kill people like in Moby Dick. I think it's important that folks don't think that Jack Nicholson and Danny DeVito in one flew over the cuckoo's nest. is what's going to happen to a loved one if they get them needed mental health treatment. That's exactly right. Well, what else you work on in New York City? We're very concerned about that town. Like you said, whatever the woman's name is, that's now the rent czar. Whenever she talks about personal property or ownership, she puts her fingers up in the area of quotation

because she wants to eliminate ownership because she's decided people that own things just want control. Yeah. Really? Does that people own things? The mayor's made a number of troubling appointments. I, that being said, obviously I didn't vote for him. I didn't support him, not by a long stretch. But I'm willing to work with him on any issue that he's willing to work with my constituents on.

If we disagree on 99 out of 100 issues, I want to find the one issue that we can find common ground on and work together to make some progress on it. I am optimistic about the new speaker, the city council that's going to be elected tomorrow. I think she's more of a moderate Democrat that'll be something of a check on the mayor. And look, you know, I have a four-year-old, so the mayor's call for a little help with things like childcare that would help our family a lot. So I'm not reflexively opposed to everything that he says and does. I'm only opposed to the crazy things. As far as my agenda goes, you know, the biggest fear that my constituents have is when it comes to public safety and policing. Given what the mayor has said about referring to the NYPD, the department he now leads as anti-queer, as racist, and being part of that defund the police movement, folks are really concerned that when they dial 911, that instead of an armed cop coming to their aid, there's going to be a social worker that tries to talk with some armed miscreant.

That's not at all what my constituents are looking for. So I'm going to try to play defense where we can and take the small victories wherever we can. What part of town do you represent? Staten Island, the best borough there is, the borough that gave us Rudy Giuliani, who saved the city. Staten Island, we just went over that Veritano Bridge not that long ago. You got to let me know next time you're in town. I'll take you to the best pizza you've ever experienced in your life. they do have great Italian restaurant.

We were friends with some of the mob wives. Yeah. I did one of their reunions once. Renee. Yeah, Renee. And there were a bunch of them. She took us to their favorite place. No, they were her uncle's Italian restaurant, which was pretty damn good too.

Gosh, it's been a while. And the monkey bar where a big and used to hang out. Yeah, the drunken monkey. You're working really hard to reinforce a lot of negative island stereotypes, which I appreciate. Hey. I'd love to show you an alternative view of Staten Island. Okay, yes. We got that view.

It's beautiful. That fort as he come over the Veritana Bridge, that whole area down there to the right as you're heading on the island. It's just magnificent. I love taking that ferry, too. DeStefano, what's your comedian's name that lives right by that floor? Chris. Chris DeStefano lives on Staten Island, and he's a good representative. We've got a lot to offer.

A lot in the way of culture, history, cuisine, a lot of natural beauty. We are the borough of parks. We've got more park land as a percentage than any other borough. It's a great place to live, work, and raise a family. And we're just hoping that the leftist cabal that's now in charge of city government doesn't change that too much. If anything, we'd like to be left alone as much as possible. Isn't that just what we all want, we want government not to make our life worse and not to involve themselves in our lives? We want to be left alone.

But I have a question. I've always wanted to ask somebody. Why don't the cabs have meters on Staten Island? Well, they had outer borough taxis for a while that would pick up people and those would have meters. But for some reason, they didn't get a lot of fares on Staten Island. I think it's mostly because we're not, you know, we're less of a pedestrian-based culture than the other four boroughs. So what most people do if they need a car, they'll either call a car service or now call an e-hale vehicle. like Uber or something along those lines.

But they are, aren't they like gypsies or something? At the time, like when we were there, it was like gypsy running, because they didn't speak English. You're really doing a number on Frank in his town. I think wherever you go in New York City, there's a good chance you'll find a cab driver that doesn't speak English as their first language. Yeah, that's true. You got a point.

It probably was about eight years ago. We were there and I just said, this guy doesn't have a meter on his case. cab is so weird. And people were just saying, yeah, so it's just, that's just the thing. And it was out of hail. We were okay. Anyway, we loved Staten Island. We loved our friends there. We really had, I went over there. I think I went over there after Sandy. Right. We went and filmed the disaster. Some of the mess that people forget, it sounded like got hit pretty hard. Yeah, I remember that at the time. And that's really, you know, my dad asked me recently what I thought the first test of the new mayor would be.

And that's really it. The first crisis that this mayor faces, like every mayor faces, is going to be where we see where the rubber meets the road. If he's a great orator, and I'm not going to take that away from him, but if his oratory and ideology can actually translate in every, and in any measurable way to managing a crisis like, God forbid, a terrorist attack, which Giuliani had, or a massive blackout, which Bloomberg had, or an assassination at City Hall. or the assassination of two cops, God forbid, or a Hurricane Sandy or people without power for a week. I said that before, right, Drew? I agree. He might be an okay leader in that kind of thing.

But if people are interested... That's where it counts. People want... They want the snow plowed, they want the garbage picked up, and they want fires put out. And then they can fight about things like freezing the rent a little later.

Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. That's a really interesting point. And New York is very pragmatic that way. I'm not surprised. But if people want to think more abstractly about the warmth of collectivism, as your mayor calls it, I suggest you watch the series Pluribus, which is about collectivism taken to its ultimate extreme. We watch it, Frank. It's a good little series.

I will check it out, but I'm staying with the frigidity of rugged individualism for now. Well, the rugged individualism is actually it, you see the weaknesses of that too, but when you really look at the logic of collectivism and if you take it to its ultimate, it does not go well and it has never gone well in the history of humanity. So we'll leave it at that, Frank so much. Frank, we appreciate your being here. We'll look for you on X. Frank Marana, M-O-R-A-N-O. Also on X, NYC, common. Wait, wait. NYCC common sense? Is that correct? If you find me at Frank Moreno, trust me, you'll have an ability,

a doorway to follow all the good, all the good Twitter accounts. Thank you for being here, Frank. We'll look for you in the city. God bless you. Thank you, man. Thank you, sir. Thank you, guys.

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of the veterans why let's talk about some of the more recent operations occurred you have guys going to Venezuela, taking out one of the most prolific drug dealers of our time, you know, these guys have a sense of purpose. And when they leave military servitude, and they no longer have that sense of purpose, they sometimes are leaving with ailments, physical and mental. You know, but I believe it's that, you know, a sense of purpose that you lose, that loss of community that often ends, you know, with my friends, finding themselves on the street. And, you know, a lot of them, you know, have, proven themselves to have the capability to be independent and to be leaders, you know, in our

organizations. But when you lose that, that sense of purpose and that mission-driven ideology, you know, people do end up turning to drugs. They do end up turning to alcoholism. Right. Lose their social support and find themselves on the street. Right. That's what I see is that the depression, PTSD, then the drugs, then the street. but this is the part that I find that we really fail them on. We know, like you said, the purpose in the community, so if we get them back with their peers, they tend to do much, much better.

But once they've been using, they really resist going back. It's so, I don't know what we're doing wrong to get them. I'm sure some of it is the shame of what they've gotten themselves into. They don't want to kind of come clean with their peers or something. But it still seems to me, you know, a bunch of peers who've gone through similar crises, it shouldn't be that shameful. I mean, there is a bravado within the military that, you know, we can take care of ourselves and we can take care of protect other people.

So when you find yourself, you know, down this path of drugs and alcohol and you find yourself in the street, it's hard to ask for help, right? And what we try to do is offer a hand up, not a handout. There's so many organizations out there that, you know, they're relying on government, you know, funding. and someone who used to manage hundreds of millions of dollars in budgeting, there is this idea in the government that if you don't spend your budget, you'll lose your budget the next year. So whether you're successful or you're efficient

with those fundings, that's one of the biggest detriments of government intervention. So I had the honor and the privilege to work here in Savannah, Georgia with a nonprofit called Union Mission. You know, their faith-based organization that brings governmental nonprofit, for-profit, individuals and organizations together to try to take this collective unified effort, you know, to have wraparound services where there's housing first, not housing only. You know, the idea that

your first step is to get someone off the street, off drugs and alcohol. The next step is to give them that sense of purpose, try to find them employment. So you can transition those individuals out and move the next, you know, group in. And that's kind of what we've done at the Nine Line Foundation, but focused on veteran homelessness. We have a tiny home village here in Savannah, Georgia and Brunswick, Georgia. And we're in the current process of building an aquaponic center here in Savannah. Well, they'll learn aquaponic initiatives, farming initiatives, to grow, you know, healthy crops that could be then used for food and sustenance in these villages or sold so that the money goes back into the knob. It's kind of this venture philanthropism.

So we're really excited to kick this initiative off. that sort of program is going to be something I feel very strong of the HHS will be interested in next year or so that's the kind of thing Robert Kennedy wants to do

these sort of farming work-based but also faith program to 12-step maybe some mental health stuff if you need it but you know it's interesting to me that faith-based is not

more actively incorporated in many of these programs here in California, or at least in Los Angeles, it's for once somebody says they're faith-based, they are forbidden to get any government funds. It's insane. And yet they have some of the best outcomes of any other organization. Yeah, I was going to say, how are those programs doing?

California is leading the charge in homelessness, and it's also leading the charge in government fraud, waste, and abuse. So when you look at the numbers of the performance as compared to California, you know, the proof is in the pitting. And when you look at the leadership that's been, implemented. You know, starting in 2010, you have General Sunseki's initiatives with the VA that really started taking effect. You know, from 2010 to just current present with the appointment of Doug Collins, another incredible individual, faith-based individual, you know, veteran homelessness

has been cut in half, over 50%. So the policies that were in place prior to General Sonseki. Throughout the nation, that's everywhere? That's throughout the country. The nation, veteran homelessness, throughout the nation has been cut in half from these policies and initiatives. So you can't do it with the government only, housing only is a failed. Yeah. Of course. Work in California will continue to request and demand more funds with diminishing results. And as long as they spend their budget, they'll get more the next year.

And I think we need to put people to performance. And we need to go and open it up to nonprofit organizations and to for-profit organizations to do what they do best, which is innovate. So talk to us again, tell us again, what you offer and how people get access to these programs. Yeah, so our nonprofit started with helping severely wounded veterans, individuals who lose, you know, multiple limbs from traumatic experiences overseas, IEDs, helicopter crashes. You know, and as that population started dwindle, as the wars dwindled, we set our sights on homelessness. And I'll tell you, taking care of a severely wounded veteran is astronomically easier than taking care of someone who's on the street. And it's because of the mental issues, it's because of the drug addictions, the wraparound services that these individuals needed. You know, the ones who have families, you know, a strong family network, we could build a house, hand it over to them and walk away.

And what we found with building these tiny homes, right, the idea is to give them some sense of individualism, you know, this idea that they can live on their own. But these tiny homes, you know, require wraparound services. They require, you know, the psychiatric care. They require individuals with vocational training services to help get people transitioned out of these tiny homes into affordable housing, into, you know, job employment. So what we've been doing is working with other nonprofits, other for-profits, government organizations we've tend to stay away from because of past horrible experiences dealing with HUD and some of their absolutely atrocious policies.

So we are reliant on, you know, non-profit funding and for-profit organizations donating their time and services. And the idea is housing first, get a group of individuals off the street, get them sustained, off drugs, off alcohol, give them vocational training. We've partnered in the past with Georgia Southern that offer free vocational training for the Aquaponics Initiative. and then give them that new sense of purpose. There's vocational training like equine therapy, and farming is very similar. When you're putting in work every day and you get to see the fruits of your labor,

you see that the crops that you're growing, being able to be sold at market, that money being going back into the organization, it gives you a sense of purpose, and it makes you, this beacon for others to want to follow. So that's the initiative. We're more than happy to share our tiny home schematics, our nonprofit kind of tenants and recommendations with other cities.

But we're seeing that it's taking effect, and it's having meaningful change. So a couple things. One is I always bristle at the term wraparound services, and thankfully you said wraparound services and psychiatric care. because when, you know, when people started using that euphemism, I'm like, the only time we use Rapper on service is for psychiatric patients. Psychiatric care includes psychological services, family services, vocational re-up. That is what psychiatric care is. And we're so anathomized,

unwilling to say, oh, I need psychiatric care. Oh, we can't say psychotic. Of course, it's all psychiatric care. It's all brain disease. It's all, you know, illness that can be treated and it has to be treated and needs multiple disciplines involved in the treatment because brains are complicated. But you did in your next breath say psychiatric care. So my bristling went down. Tell me where people should go if they want to get involved or if they want to refer someone. I'm interested in, you know, how do we support you and then how do we get people into your programs? Yeah, obviously I'm very focused here in Savannah, Georgia, there is a triage of care that you kind of mentioned. For individuals that need psychiatric care, our project and our program is not really fit. For those who

still want to utilize drugs and alcohol, again, there's organizations like Union Mission that are very focused on helping those individuals. For the individuals that have hit rock bottom that have decided that they want to get off the street, you know, you can refer them to nine line foundation.org. For individuals who'd like to donate time and money, you know, you here in the Savannah, Georgia area, please again, visit our foundation website. We're always looking for volunteers. We are a 100% volunteer organization.

No one is paid. All services are subsidized by the apparel company. So every dollar donated goes directly towards our initiatives into the homeless veteran community. But there is a triage of care. There's over 130 homeless veterans here in Savannah, Georgia. We only have 40 tiny homes. The idea is that we need to cycle these individuals through.

take the ones that we can care for and try to get them through the program as fast as possible so that we can free up space for the next individual. Do you have any plans to move into other states? We're currently focused in Brunswick, Georgia and Savannah, Georgia. It sits pretty close to our headquarters. We have hundreds of individuals that work here at the nine-line headquarters that all volunteer their time and energy throughout the year. We would love for our program to be emulated, replicated, improved upon.

and shared back with us anywhere around the country that is not, I guess, democratically doomed. The socialist experiment, the government only is not going to work. Forget it. Forget. Of course not. But there are going to be funds available from HHS. I'm convinced of it. They just haven't turned their attention to this yet. I know it's a passion for RFK Jr. So stand by. There may be some truce, some cavalry ready to help you. we appreciate so much your work and you're coming in here and talking to us about it other than captain tyler merritt on x and uh nine line apparel on x where else would you like people to go you can find us at uh instagram facebook youtube i think snapchat i'm not one that actually i'll be

honest don't monitor my stuff uh i'm not really on social media but i know that they're individuals that will respond on my behalf right Tyler thank you for being here And thank you for the work. Thank you, sir. You got it. All right, very interesting show today. Susan, you like this, right? This conversation, all of our...

Yes, of course. And I like that we have an audience today listening because this is a really tough topic. It's not like, oh, I can't wait to watch. But there was a lot of great information there. Yeah, I thought so. And it's not controversial. It's obvious to anyone that works in this field

that works with these patients. It has always been that way. So I don't know. All right. Please change. Any event. We have coming up, let's put the guest in here. We've got Viva Frye coming in tomorrow with Peter Sandinj. Talk a little bit about economics.

We've got Peter McCullough coming in and on the eighth. Cura Davis, I believe, is going to co, is going to host for us on the 20th? Susan, is that possible? I know she's going to sit in for you one of these days coming up. I think so when we go out of town. I mean, if Venezuela doesn't get bombed. I still am. worried about going.

We're going into the Virgin Isle. To the Caribbean. It's within 800 miles of the craziness over there. And I don't know. It makes me nervous. Return salty cracker on the 5th of February. We got a lot coming up here. We will see you tomorrow.

We have our, it's 4 o'clock tomorrow, correct? Caleb, you have your thing tomorrow? Yes, tomorrow. We're back to do it in the Omaha Media Hub. 7 p.m. Eastern. And look for actual friends. It should be pretty interesting this week.

been apart from each other for a couple of weeks. A lot of stuff has gone on in the meantime. So we'll see what the group. I hope they promote this show on that show. It's me, Dave Rubin's, Gillian Michael, Sage, Steele. And we hope we promote that this show. We do. Oh, yeah, we do.

Thank you. That's why I'm there to bring people to this one. If anybody watches actual friends, raise your hand in the audience. I'd love to know if you've seen it yet. But it's on YouTube, right. So it's a good, it's a really fun show. We appreciate y'all being here today. We appreciate our guests for stopping by.

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