Ask Dr. Drew - Viva Frei on Robert F. Kennedy Jr, Fifth Generation Information Warfare & CIA’s Project Mockingbird – Ask Dr. Drew – Episode 222

Episode Date: May 28, 2023

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Appreciate you being here. Today, one of my favorite guests kindly is returning, Viva Fry. He's, of course, a Canadian lawyer and Rumble host. Find him on Viva Fry, F-R-E-I, on Rumble, Locals, and YouTube. He also has a legal podcast, Viva and Barnes, live at vivabarnes.locals.com. Follow him at Viva Fry, V-I-V-A Fry, F-R-E-I.com. And let's see the Twitter. I don't see a Twitter handle, but the Instagram

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Viva is a Canadian lawyer, Rumble host, I said. We've got a lot to talk about today. He is host of Viva Fry on Rumble, Locals, and YouTube, legal podcasts at Viva, and Barnes Live at vivabarnes.locals.com. And, you know, YouTube is Viva Fry. Everything is Viva Fry. So welcome, Viva Fry. Nice to be here again.

It's good to have you, my friend. Yeah. So what, Susan, what's the recommendation for his concern on his skin? Which of those products? You're going to love this product. I had a little blemish here. Yeah. Oh, sorry. Go for it. Yeah. Oh, sorry.

Go for it. Oh, no, no. No, you first. You first. I was going to say, I have a little blemish, but I also have a bit of a neurosis where you see it and then you pick it and then you have to stop picking it, but you can't stop picking it. Then you make it bigger and then you pick it more.

So at least it's nothing. It's just this little thing right here. But cover up some foundation. Let's see. Retinol. Get the retinol creams. He's a retinol cream at night. Big fan of retinols. And then also the vitamin C cream in the morning. All right. And then the anti-redness cream during the day. All right. There we go. Enough of that. So since we have last discussed, I think I want to zero in on the Durham report first. It's a sort of a nice way to sort of lift off here. My question is, you know, here we have very solid evidence that this was all not real. It was all fabricated. It was fabricated by people who wanted to alter the course of a presidential election and who meddled and tampered with that election

in ways that we should be really concerned about, particularly given that many of them were from intelligence agencies, which is almost breathtaking to say. But why is it or how is it that this isn't of greater concern to people? Why isn't it being picked up by press and sort of the corollary to that is the same people who aren't talking about it have talked about nothing but this phony report for six years at what point are they going to say look hey we got it wrong you know here's how we got it wrong sorry anything but no nothing uh nothing the report it's beyond words as to how damning it is and that's notwithstanding the fact that Durham for whatever

the reason decided to sort of limit his own uh mandate limit his own Authority limit his scope that he could have otherwise implemented in the context of that report Mark Twain it's easier to fool people than it is to convince them they've been fooled. There's a bit of ego for the people who have been duped. When it comes to the media, the Rachel Maddows, the CNNs, it's not ego. It's not a question of that. It's mockingbird type operations in real time. For people who didn't read the report, because it's 307 pages, it's damning beyond words. But Durham had the ability or had the mandate to potentially indict, issue subpoenas, whatever. He decided not to.

He decided to limit the scope of his report, not to inspecting the Clintons and the DNC, which had not just an active role in this, but arguably the initiating role. He decided to limit it to Trump and that side of it, and nonetheless came to the conclusion that not one element of that Steele dossier, which was the initiator, the instigator of the entire Crossfire Hurricane investigation, not one allegation was substantiated or corroborated or corroboratable because they were all fabrications. Notwithstanding this, he chalks it up to, I think the term he used was confirmation bias of a politically motivated FBI. Confirmation bias is when someone doesn't see past their own biases,

not when someone actively seeks to interfere with an election, which is what they did. The Durham report ultimately concluded the Crossfire Hurricane investigation had no basis to exist. Some people who were trying to spin this as something of a victory said, oh, the report only concluded that the FBI should have initiated a preliminary investigation, not a full investigation. Hogwash. I don't know if I can swear here. Hogwash. What the report concluded is that there was no basis in the first place for any of this because nothing in the Steele dossier was substantiated. The Steele dossier was funded by the DNC and Hillary Clinton, funneled to the FBI via their attorney, who laundered this disinformation to the FBI, who then in turn leaked it to Yahoo,

who then in turn published it so that the FBI can then rely on the publication of an article on this bogus steel dossier to spy on Carter Page and indirectly Trump. It was a coup. It was a coup in real time. And it's not too complicated for people to understand. People are too lazy and they're too blinded by their language. So there's that there's that then along comes the hunter biden material they fabricate they in whole cloth using 50 former and current intelligence officials lie about what that is lie about it for years, and then nobody goes, hey, maybe we got that one wrong?

It's, they didn't get it wrong. They lied. They tried to undo, undermine the election of Trump when it happened. And what did they do in 2020? We'll have to understand this. That letter signed by over 50 members of the intelligence community, it didn't say that the Hunter Biden laptop was falsified. It just said it bore the earmarks or the hallmarks of Russia disinformation. Yes. It was a lie. The FBI had that laptop since 2019

and knew that it was authentic. And so these 50 plus intelligence lied. They planted the seeds within social media to give them plausible deniability, then met with them and coerced them into watering that plant. It was election interference 2.0 after election interference in 2016, or at least presidential nomination interference over the top. And people, they don't want to know about it. And they want to say, well, they didn't say it was fake. They just said it bore the earmarks of and maybe they were wrong they weren't wrong they lied the intelligence community lied yes and

not only that i've seen some of these guys that have been willing to be interviewed good for them but no none of the interviewers went you knew what the implications were of what you were saying you may have hidden behind earmarks rather than categorically this is so, but you understand how the public would respond to people with your credentials saying that's probably what it is based on all the earmarks. Like, it'd be the same as if I said, that's probably a stroke. It has all the earmarks of a stroke. And they went, no, I just said the earmarks. I didn't say it was a stroke. I just kind of had the symptomatology.

It's like, no, I just said the earmarks. I didn't say it was a stroke. I just said it kind of had the symptomatology. It's like, yes, of course. But I know what I'm saying when I say it has all the earmarks of this particular diagnosis. And not just that. They're meeting with Zuckerberg. They're meeting. They have their back channels with Twitter. They have Jim Baker, the former, what was it,

external counsel of the FBI, embedded within Twitter. And they're saying, hey, guys, there might be some leaks, some hacked materials of the FBI embedded within Twitter. And they're saying, hey, guys, there might be some leaks, some hacked materials of Russian disinformation about Hunter Biden. They held like a, what are they called, like a staged sort of like, how do we respond to a Hunter Biden laptop leak, Russian disinformation before all of this. They lied about it. They then coerced social media to lie about it to censor on the basis that it was hacked materials even though none of it broke the rules of twitter and they impacted the election because i don't believe polls whether you know they're favorable or not to what i believe

but people came out and said you know had i known then what i know now i would not have voted uh for joe or i would have voted differently and it would have impacted the election but but i would argue that like so many movements historical figures they do these things believing they're doing something they're they're they are on the side of good they are doing the good they're saving the country from populism they're saving the country from hitler there's there This is necessary to save the country. They convinced themselves of that. So in a way, Durham is right about the confirmation bias. They were so, but does nobody read their history?

There's even sort of aphorisms out there about how much people doing good have done bad. Mao believed fiercely he was doing good. Stalin believed he was doing good. Certainly, Lenin believed he was doing good. These were people on the side of the gods. And the hubris to be able to not look at what you've done is very, very concerning. It's the insanity behind the theory that people implement now. to not look at what you've done is very, very concerning. True.

It's the insanity behind the theory that people implement now. It's like we have to suppress freedom of speech in order to preserve it. We have to destroy democracy. We have to lie in order to preserve truth. Was it Lewis Carroll or C.S. Lewis who said, you know, the worst type of tyrant is the one who thinks they're tormenting you for your own good and they have the approval of their own conscience. It's a great quote. Even a robber baron will sleep. Maybe one day he'll get tired of tormenting you, but the people who think they're doing it for

your own good will never stop. I don't believe that. I think these people are actually, they're criminal-esque, in my humble opinion, in that they're preserving their own positions of power. They're preserving the administrative body that they've set in place over the last decades. So they have that secondary gain in there. So I'm slowly backing into RFK Jr., who I interviewed yesterday, and I'm just sort of,

I'm going to line all these things up, and then I'm going to talk about him. So then now we have covid uh and the interesting thing about covid is is not only well there's a lot of things we can get into in terms of how it was conducted obviously but i i think it's interesting to look at the medications whose names can't even be named or I will be canceled on YouTube still to this day. Medicines I've prescribed for years, medicines that if you're a refugee from another country, the CDC requires you to take it for a week.

But the government stepped up and said, no. Now, there's some theory that the reason they said no is in order to maintain an emergency use authorization, which they would not have access to if there were other treatments than vaccines. So that's one of the so-called conspiracy theories that are flying around there. I don't have an opinion about it, but it certainly fits the facts. So the EUA is able to go through because we don't have any other treatments they say no that's not what i want to focus in on what i want to focus in on was how was it and what does it mean that they go they defend that position and say no this shouldn't be used uh and then they

crush anyone that is a dissenting opinion and then then immediately CNN, MSNBC, regulatory, everybody lines up with them immediately on this substance, the name of which they just learned to pronounce five minutes ago. And they have an extreme opinion about whether it's a good or a bad thing. What is that? What is that? That all of a sudden, all these elements can line up instantly against something that they really should have no opinion on. They should be, okay, that's the government's opinion, and just report it. But no, they took up an evangelical position to crush anyone who dared to use these words, who dared to prescribe these things. What was that? I believe it sounds crazy because if you say things like mind control and whatever,

it sounds crazy. If people don't know certain historical operations of intelligence, Operation Mockingbird is one look at. It's one to understand. Operation Paperclip, phenomenal. Operation Northcliffe will blow your mind if you don't know of these things. But Operation Mockingbird is nothing more than intelligence infiltrating the media and using them as a mouthpiece apparatus to promote deep state, administrative state narratives. It's exactly what we saw in 2016 with the election of Trump and Russiagate. It's exactly what we saw in 2020 in terms of Hunter Biden laptop disinformation, Russia hack.

It's exactly what we saw all throughout COVID. It's exactly what we saw and are seeing now with the war in Ukraine and Russia. And people just don't understand it. Like, okay, we've lived through it twice in the last five, seven years, and they don't put it together when it's happening right before their very eyes again?

It's actually, it's even more sinister me let me push back a little bit i'll push back a little bit so i was on cnn for nearly 10 years and i didn't see anything like that now admittedly i was on my way out uh by the time the trump derangement stuff kicked in and maybe it was something to do with that. But it feels there was nothing like that. There was no communication even amongst the shows, let alone with upper management or producers getting together and going, what are we going to do? Or having some rogue producers amongst the group that were pushing a certain thing.

There was just unanimity all the time. And how did they – it's almost a cultural phenomenon. It's odd. I don't know. What do you think about that? Because I think when people think of infiltration, they think of some backdoor meeting and they think of corruption. They think of briefcases of cash.

It's much more subtle and much more insidious than that. At this point in time, it could just be with political influence. And those people know what they need to do in order to maintain their, in order to maintain being on televisions in airports. They know what they need to do in order to maintain their position of power and to expand it.

And they don't need to be given orders in a back room or by text messages. So it's more insidious and it's more subtle, but it's there in the same way mutatis butandis um but the the the the the medications the names of which can't be uttered it's so much more sinister than anybody can possibly understand and if you've read robert f kennedy jr's books the real anthony fauci it would be you would put together the parallels immediately but they were banning this medication the wonder drugs, been around, administered to billions of people for decades. They were banning it in May 2020. It makes no

sense. What was once over the counter is then banned. It makes no sense. But for the fact that, as you mentioned, if there were alternative therapeutic remedies, you don't get emergency use authorization permission, authorization. So what do you have to do? Exactly what Fauci did during the AIDS pandemic, which is basically criminalize the over-the-counter remedies. So you can push the vaccines, you can push your, what was it? It was AZT back in the day. So you can push remdesivir now, or is it remdesivir? Remdesivir was the modern one. So you can push your poison patented medicines that people stand a lot to gain by administering. And who benefited from all of the vaccine immunity?

The only immunity it gave were to the vaccine manufacturers. But who benefited from all that? The institutionalized corrupt power that allowed it to happen and then did what was necessary to make it happen. And people will still, this one's going to be the hardest one for people to actually say, holy crab apples, they got me. Because it's not just that people administered this jab to themselves. They did it to their kids. Parents pressured their kids into getting it. This is going to be the tough one to actually say, holy, they fooled me because they didn't just fool you with your thoughts.

They didn't just embarrass you with some tweets about, oh, Russiagate was real. They fooled people with their health and they trick people into potentially, maybe, arguably, doing things that will actually harm the ones that they love the most by having convinced them that it was necessary to protect them. And that's going to be the one where people are going to have a very tough time with their egos turning on. But the fact that people don't see 2016, 2020, COVID, Ukraine, and put it all together and say, holy crap, they're using the same tactics over and over again. Why am I not picking up on it? That's the question people should be asking. And it's so odd because the very people that are now the elites were the ones that were speaking truth to power and insisting on questioning everything that the government did and certainly were not fans of the FBI and the CIA.

They've flipped on everything and with unquestioning, without any thought about it, which is, I just like to see somebody give me their thinking on this. What's amazing is, this is my realization, people love speaking truth to power until they're in the position of power. People love free speech until they're the ones being attacked by it.

That's right. Everyone loves free speech and they love democracy until they taste that ring, the proverbial ring of power. Then they no longer like people who speak truth to power because they're the power to whom people are speaking the truth. And so that's just how corrupt that's how power corrupts, but it's an amazing phenomenon. We've seen it. Yeah.

These politics, the free speech Democrats, no censorship, anti big government, anti big pharma democrat liberals of the 70s have now become the suppression of free speech shut up and take your jabs big government and if you question the narrative you're a heretic i mean it's it's an amazing thing because they've got the power and they want to maintain that power it is it is extraordinary to see it really just it and i guess maybe not everyone has the same historical sweep that if you're my age you would have uh particularly if you were someone that was an enthusiast of those of those uh speaking truth to power which i'd say i was and i i just haven't changed from that i know i'm

maybe it's because i'm not an elite the way they are or something i don't know but and this is not this is not an outright attack on democrats and liberals. I'm old enough to remember the attack on the Simpsons and George Bush. You know, like the Simpsons are bad. Heavy metal causes people to harm themselves. Most of my career on radio, I was spent fighting the right. Trust me. I was an advocate for the morning after pill. I was, oh, you forget how bad it got.

There was a while there when they had Colin Powell's son at the FCC, and he was crushing everybody for everything it was ridiculous and so yes i know it can cut both ways trust me i've been on both sides of this the the only big difference being that you know even though it's true of both sides to some extent when they when they hold power and they want to control that power um you know the right republicans they've never really controlled the media. They've never controlled Hollywood. They've never had that culture in the culture war, that power, that lever. And so now it's just a little bit different in terms of the game because the Democrats suppress free speech and they've got the media to demonize, dox, lambaste everybody who runs

counter to the narrative. And so that's a very, very powerful tool. Well, and then the social media was really the cherry on top where they could really go after people and harm people with that. So now let's back further into RFK's area. And the thing that he pointed out to me early on was the cozy relationship between the regulators and the big pharma companies. And it's interesting. I got to know Secretary of HHS Azar a little bit. Seemed like a great guy to me. I didn't think about it. The guy ran Eli Lilly for many years. And I didn't think about, I was not thinking about how that might adulterate some of the things. And I was complaining about phase three clinical trials.

And he goes, yeah, there's no way we can do that. We can't fund it. Pharmacy has to fund it. And I was like, Jesus, that's bad. But maybe there are other ways. He just was unwilling to look at those things. I don't know. But the point is there is a very cozy relationship between the regulators and big pharma. There's a cozy relationship between the medical literature, how they're edited, and where they get their funding, big pharma.

The state component of what used to be funding medical research, medical education, and medical publications has shrunken to a tiny degree, and it's all been replaced by big pharma as the vacuum, you know, gone into that vacuum. And we've needed it, but now it's gotten to the point where it's concerning. And it made me worry about, you know, sort of adulterated motivations. Okay.

I pointed out to RFK Jr. yesterday, I said, I think I'm having Gell-Mann amnesia as it pertains to my understanding of what's going on with big pharma and regulators. Have you ever heard of Gell-Mann amnesia? Do you know what that is? I believe so. That's where you don't trust someone

until you trust them because they're talking about, wait, wait, you've discovered that they were lying in one area and then you forget about that and then trust them when they, okay, something along those lines. completely wrong. They can't get, they're not getting this at all. And then he'd go on to read the rest of the paper as though it was completely accurate, complicated international relationship and economic positions. The point is, of course they get it all wrong. And God will, God help you if they write an article about you. I don't know if you've ever been the subject of some of the print scrutiny, but you see how far from the truth they go. That's when you really learn how much they distort things. Have you had that lovely experience? Oh, yeah. I did an interview with W5 in Canada, CTV News,

when they wanted to discuss Rumble, the platform that I work with. And then they wrote their piece. And then they – it's just overt, deliberate defamation to pursue a certain objective. And then when I corrected them and said, this is factually incorrect, would you please correct it? It's amazing. And the element about Gelman's amnesia

is that it's when the person lacks the expertise in another area to know that they're being lied to, then they tend to believe it. Correct. Yes. Correct. My camera's moving. Oh, I'll leave it.

Okay, I'll just stop. You're good. Got the stupid tracking camera. correct uh my camera's moving oh i'll leave it okay okay i'll just stop you're good got the stupid tracking camera um but it's it is um the capture is amazing because people think of capture oh that's just it's just good politics it's just how business is done that is corruption that is institutionalized corruption and i do have a you know that's right a bit of experience in this is like in terms of determining what gets funding for the reasons of politics, oh, we won't fund that.

And it's not just science. It's not just medicine. It's political science. Well, we're not even going to touch that. And so it drives people to say, well, I better, you know, pet the hand that feeds me. And what you end up having, especially forget that they hold patents in some of the stuff that they develop, that's massive corruption. But it's capture is corruption and people should actually just use the word corruption instead of capture because capture just sounds like good business

it's corruption yes and so this is where i want to go after the break here which is that i i have some sense of how the medical pharmaceutical side has captured what RFK Jr. pointed out to me yesterday. He goes, no, you have Gelman amnesia, not just about the press, but about how your federal government works. They have capture, you name the agency, it's been captured in some way. And I thought the corruption was about the lobbying and that they couldn't seem to do anything about that. But there really is another target, and it might be the more pernicious and the more pervasive target, which is capture, capture of almost every agency you can name.

And so after the break, I want you to comment about that and help educate me about that and to drill into whether RFK is on to something here. And more importantly, is there anything we can do about it? Sound like a plan? Sounds good. All right, be right back after this. A lot of you have been asking for more information about how to counter the adverse effects

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Vivek and Viva for president, vice president. I want him on. I'll start with an interview. I would love to interview him. Yeah, me too. Me too. Great guy, and full of interesting thoughts. I'd actually read one of his books before he got really going here.

So let's get to what I was talking about. And then, by the way, before we get into this, Caleb, I'm going to email you that video I was telling you about. I think I'm going to get it in a few minutes here. So go ahead. So the gauntlet was, is it true that it's capture everywhere, right? And what are the effects? How do we do it? What do we do about it?

Very simple. I mean, is he right? Is RFK right, number one? And if he's right, where is he right? And what do we do about this? Well, I know my limit of my own expertise. I believe he's right because I believe that I've seen it in every industry, in every field. I mean, FCC, FAA, the medical industry, it's everywhere.

I mean, the banking industry. And look, it's not complicated. It's that you have people who scratch the backs of the others. They know in advance of retiring from politics that they've got speaking gigs at these institutions for hundreds of thousands of dollars for several, you know, an hour. And so they know that that comes if you play your cards right when you're in positions of power, give a little favor here, give a little favor there. And that's how it works, where it gets really insidiously corrupt. I mean, seeing it in the context of COVID, but when you have the people who control the purse

strings determining where to invest that money, and then you're like, when they have a financial interest in where they invest that money or where they don't invest that money and you understand why it is that not just certain remedies were not being pursued, but were actively being demonized because there was no financial incentive for those making the decisions to recommend it,

to pursue it, to look into it. And so there's regulatory capture in everywhere across the board. What's the solution? Look, it's an institutional solution in terms of just the corruption of politics. The people, you know, as George Carlin said, it's a big club and we're not in it. And that's how it operates. I mean, it's how the whole banking crisis of 2008 came and went with, oddly enough, nobody going to jail, nobody suffering the consequences within the industry.

But the solution itself is, I don't know, more complicated. More government to- He told me that, yeah, he told me, and by the way, before I tell you what he told me about the medical journal editors, I have hope now. The Annals of Internal Medicine started publishing some really interesting stuff about a week and a half ago, including

treatments with fluvoxamine and budesonide showing excellent results in early COVID, a moderate early COVID treatment. They could not even publish that three months ago, let alone a year ago. Any kind of early treatment was completely forbidden to be discussed. They published the Danish mass study that was a negative study on masks. Shocking as all the meta-analyses have been since. I mean, it's just,

you just couldn't publish the right stuff. So he was going to bring in all the editors of all the leading medical journals in the country and tell him he's going to prosecute them all under a RICO Act. And unless they come up with a plan on why he shouldn't do that and how they're going to undo their distorted motivations. So apparently RFK has not heard about the judicial capture. Good luck with that, RFK. Zero chances of success. If anyone thinks that the capture hasn't also included the courts, I mean, all that you have to do is determine who gets appointed as judges. Once they're appointed, how is it going to go down in terms of politics? People think that Trump broke the minds of Americans in 2015, 2016.

A lot of those minds that he broke sit on benches. In terms of people needing to get elected to their positions of judicial power, appointed, and then be indebted to, or there's as much judicial capture as there is regulatory capture. So good luck with that. I don't have much faith in the court system anymore, especially given what I've seen during COVID. Where do I think the battle lies? In the minds of people. And call it out and make people understand, even if they don't want to, and even if they have to be pulled by the neck to the water and forced to drink, I think it can happen.

But, uh, I, I would not bet on a Rico and I would not invest in a Rico. I don't think it goes anywhere. Well, that, so that's good. So that's the kind of opinions that I am needing because I swallowed that one. I was like, oh, well, that'll get them to straighten out. That's something anyway. But you're right. They might just thumb their nose.

You've been following the Carrie Lake, Arizona contest lawsuit. The Donald Trump, it's not a conviction because it's civil, but the finding of liability in New York, the capture of George Soros funding super PACs that fund DAs and circuit attorneys like Kim Gardner and Alvin Bragg, who then come down with these idiotic, baseless, legally laughable indictments, but then slap it in front of a jury and we can see what happens in front of a jury now. No, there's as much prosecutorial capture as there is regulatory capture in the medical industry. So it's corrupt from top to bottom and from bottom to top. The only, you know, the way to change it is, unfortunately,

bottom to top and then top down. When it becomes politically unpopular to play by these insider rules, but so long as politicians, you know, septuple their net worth in their stints of political power there will be no incentive to change it sorry to be black well so that's that's also where it gets interesting because i i always try to understand things i don't can't understand the other people's way of looking at things and it seems like there's a lot of people who feel um this is a good thing or at least we're moving in the right direction.

I keep hearing President Biden say things like, we've done a lot, but we've got a long way to go. It's like, whoa, where are we going? Things scare me with that. What are we talking about exactly? So how would someone, do you think, who looks upon these trends favorably how would they make you know you have to twist yourself a little bit it seems to me to to you know you have to be a little pretzel like and you're thinking but i'm just wondering how they would how does george soros look at what's happening in in cities and think to himself got it done and done well, I'm at the risk of being called names for criticizing George Soros, apparently.

I might be one of them people for criticizing George Soros. Oh, you're anti-Semite? Oh, well. Sorry, I'm going to have to get you off my show. You're anti-Semite. I'm a white nationalist, Jewish boy. The Soros, it's a game of politics and power. They don't care about the outcome. And in fact, the more the more discord, the more strife, the better it is for the clutches of power and the influence that they have for the people. Unfortunately, it's the old poem from, you know, pre, well, I guess it's the World War Two poem. At first they came for

the union workers, but I didn't care because I wasn't a union worker. People only care when they come for them. People only care when it's their kid that's injured from a jab. They only care when their free speech is being suppressed. And that's how you turn the lefties into far righties. You know, like Russell Brand becomes a far righty when he realizes that censorship is no good because it affects, you know, the Jimmy doors, it will affect them one day too. And by that time it's too late. And so unfortunately people have to suffer before they realize the errors in their ways. The biggest problem is what I find is that some people take joy in their suffering. This it's like, it's like, you know, flagellation in, is that the word in religion? You're like, you're, you're the suffering is a sign of pride and a sign of success of sorts. But that's the only way people actually change their minds is when they suffer the consequences of the policies they've been promoting.

And then sometimes not even. Well, but how much more can people in inner cities of Chicago, Los Angeles, Seattle, how much more suffering do they need before they start to go? Let's talk about capture again. They, they, some of them, you know, their suffering is being hidden by the politicians and the media, or just by the stats, like in San, San Francisco. I get mixed up between San Diego and San Francisco. Crime is crime is going down. Yeah.

No, San Francisco crime's going down. It's a miraculous thing. People complaining about the crime, the rampant. The crime's going down because people stop reporting it, because police stop taking reports. And so it's an amazing thing where you can falsify everything so that you can even hide the truth from the victims of it. But at the end of the day, the victims of it, that's the issue. You want to talk about capture and you talk about demographics that vote massively statistically for one party decade over decade. And there's a number of demographics that do this. I mean, why? At some point, they have to realize and they have to see that the policies they've been supporting are actually hurting them and then change.

But it's a tough game. Or maybe it's time for a new party it seems like the the brand for the right is nazi and they've done a pretty good job of sort of or they i've noticed that whenever they say republican they say maga republican maga republican extreme maga republican extreme maga republican yeah and so maybe it's time for a new party i don't know i i could easily be i i've been i'm independent for i've been for a long time but i think i'm gonna go over to democrat so i can vote for rfk jr in the in the primaries that's what happens here because my vote isn't worth anything as an independent anyway in california well i i wouldn't mind if rfk splits the democrat vote but the the the problem is like it's the whole system is broken

people complain about the two-party system in the states take a look at what goes problem is like, it's the whole system is broken. People complain about the two party system in the States. Take a look at what goes up in Canada. It's not because you have seven different parties that you don't have a de facto two party state. You have conservative and you have everything else. And it's liberal, New Democrat, Marxist. We actually have a Marxist Communist Party. So, you know, having seven parties doesn't make the system much better than having two parties, but no, the people just, um, I, they, they just have to suffer a bit before they say enough is enough and that's why the pendulum swings back and I think we're in that stage right now, but my goodness, how much suffering has to be had and is the pendulum just going to

fall? That's my question. That's my question. And so, so you're saying it's got to go from the bottom up before it can go from the top down and you, the hearts and minds of the people need to change it without the media as, uh, maybe the media is going to have less pull than we think going forward. I mean, so much is what's going on in social media, but that's so highly siloed. What, what can be done?

Well, you know, now that we, you said that out loud and I had a thought, it's going to go bottom up, top down, but also come from the middle. The media has lost its influence with any mind that is open enough to understand that. So you're still going to have the people who read the New York Times and think it's the truth. But the media has lost its influence. Fox News is going to be culturally irrelevant, if not bankrupt within years, if it's not already there in terms of cultural irrelevance. Nobody takes CNN seriously anyhow. And so that is why, incidentally,

we're seeing this real-time battle for the internet and control over the internet more pronounced up in Canada, where we have legislation being implemented to allow the government to regulate the internet the way it regulates radio and television, because that is the last of the wild west for the democratization of information. And that's where voices succeed on their merit and not because of their legacy inheritance or government funding. So I think the media is losing its influence, which is going to be massively important for 2024, which is why the intelligence then had to go to social media to infiltrate there to make sure that

legacy media has its institutional influence on the social media scale. Elon buying over Twitter is going to be massively important in terms of having at least one platform that is for the time being free speech, not that Elon Musk is perfect, but that's where the battle is there. The battle is for the hearts and the minds and making sure people can get accurate information and not just narratives. Flip side, holy crab apples, do they really fight hard against it? It was Nuhur Rabadu. When you fight corruption, corruption fights back. And I think people are starting to understand how badly weaponized January 6 was in all of this. We forgot January 6 talking about intelligence fabricating narratives and then exploiting them politically. We forgot about January 6. I think enough people are starting to realize now that they were lied to. Boy, howdy about January 6. Tucker Carlson, oddly enough, unceremoniously canned from Fox News,

releasing 40,000 hours of footage that many of us didn't see, that might make January 6th look like not what that stupid committee said it was. So it's a tough battle. And people are stubborn. People are ignorant. People are busy. People are just living their lives. And the question is, how do you reach them? Some require a gentle nudge. Some require a link. Others require like, you know, uh, a slap out of their, out of their, uh, night terrors and others are just unreachable, but slumber, is this your, is this your goal in life?

Is this what you're doing? Is this, is this your, this what you want to do now? I've got no choice. It's like, I've got no choice about this now. I'm a father of three. Canada, if it hasn't fallen, it's approaching rapidly the event horizon of a black hole. And so much so that the voice that I have now, sooner than later, will not be viewable in Canada. And notwithstanding everything the world has been through in the last three years and the last eight years in Canada, people, it's not so bad.

We're still a polite country. Oh, sure, gun violence is going up. It's going up, notwithstanding the fact that gun laws are getting tighter up in Canada. Violence is going up. Suicidal ideations, self-harm, opiate overdoses is going up among kids. Notwithstanding all of that, it's still pretty good. And so in order to justify our own suffering,

let's go ahead and, and get deranged by Trump and how bad he is and the amount of Canadians focusing on what they think the ills of America are is a pure distraction from what's going on there. but I have got no choice the world has gone crazy and um you gotta you gotta do what you can while still trying to retain a sense of humor and find time to to go fishing we we have time for a couple of calls too so you just push the microphone down the little left uh corner Caleb has a little cartoon about that. And raise your hand and I'll bring you up. You'll be streaming on multiple platforms simultaneously. Don't forget to unmute the mic after you come up to the platform. What did you think you'd be doing at this point in

your life? I knew that I wouldn't be practicing law because I loathed the practice of law even before COVID. Like when I was discovering the internet and viral videos, I could not see myself in 10 years being a lawyer and still being a practicing attorney and still being happy. When COVID hit, holy crap. I mean, I never saw this. I never, I never saw myself having to flee my own country to protect my children. It's a very, very upsetting thing. And, you know, I'm sensitive to, you know, the people online who will troll me and say, oh, you're a coward, you left. I can understand why they say that. I can see a lot of people say that because they want to do the same. But, you know, never in a million years would I think I'd have to flee my home.

The only place I've ever known to protect my kids from policy that is inhumane, unconscionable, unconstitutional, and yet somehow has been approved by my fellow citizens in large enough numbers that it became a risk. But it's liberating, and it's a question of growing wings. Did you know that you could have ended up in California? It could have been worse than Canada. You ended up in Florida, I believe. Did you know where you were going, state by state? I knew. I've got some American family. I was never going to end up in California. But

just so everybody understands this, California is not worse than Canada in terms of policy, in terms of socialism. Canada, for those who don't know, had some of the strictest COVID measures anywhere. Quebec, even more so. Five and a half months of curfew in 2021. Another month and a half of curfew in 2022. Vaccine passports, where my daughter was at a high school, and the high school starts younger in Canada. Children who didn't have the vaccine QR code on their app were not allowed to try out for soccer.

So you have unscientific, inhumane policy being implemented and people are like, well, okay, it's not so bad. It could be worse. It could be worse. And now I understand how I, you know, I had family, uh, from Eastern Europe, from Poland, and I always asked my dad, why did only one of our, why did only my grandfather leave Poland and the other 24 state and the other 24 met the faith. That met the faith.

Good question. He said, oh, they stayed. It wasn't so bad. It wasn't so bad. It wasn't so bad until it was so bad. And I mean, whether or not we don't get to the same end game. And so in that sense, the analogy has its limits. But like Mark Twain also said, history doesn't repeat, but it tends to rhyme.

And it's rhyming a lot more than I ever thought it would. Yeah, I totally agree with you. It's really, the interesting thing is seeing people behave in ways that help me understand how the average German citizen was able to behave the way they did. And I, you know, I got, Winston, I'm going to pull you up here in just a second. You're going to unmute your mic. I'll never forget, I'm going to pull you up here in just a second. You got to unmute your mic. I'll never forget. I was trying to, I was trying to get the vaccine early on.

And I went to the hospital where I worked for 35 years and was screamed at by this young man in his uniform. Where are your papers? Where are your papers? And I just thought to myself, I'm a senior physician of this facility for 35 years. Does this feel good to you? Is this what you like to do, is scream it? Evidently it did, yeah.

For some people. Petty tyrants. Yeah, I know. Petty tyrants. Drew, I'll share one of my anecdotes, which I'll never forget. And the person I don't think watches me, so they'll never know. And I won't mention their name. But I had a friend ask if my kids were vaccinated

to determine carpool and when we said no they found another car to go home from the party and and i'll i'll never forget that i can forgive it because they're weak people and they weren't in positions of power to make policy they were just following the policy and tormented by the would they would there be a world where that person how about if that person would come up to you go you know what i've really looked at the data now and i was just completely flat i was bamboozled by what was going on i'm so sorry would that make it okay they wouldn't even have to apologize i wasn't insulted in that sense yeah i would just love for them to acknowledge it but the problem is um yeah we were just doing our best with the science

that we had at the time but you when the people... We didn't know. We didn't know. I don't accept that. Some of us did know. How is that possible? Exactly. You got lucky. You got lucky, Drew.

The conspiracy theorists who were right all along, they got lucky. We were just doing the best we had. It's the same way when your ally does something wrong, it's an accident. When your enemy does something wrong, it's an unforgivable sin. It's also what I keep saying when I was teaching physicians, when I would ask them why they did a particular intervention. If they dared to tell me, I had to do something, goodbye. I had to do something is how you kill people. You don't do anything unless you have a damn good reason to.

You understand the risk-reward and you do it with purpose, not because you had to do something. Had to do something is how you harm people. Okay, Winston, unmute that mic in the lower left-hand corner. There you are. What's up? Hey, what's happening, guys? Looking at what you were saying about how to reach people, I wanted to ask if either one of you guys have heard about this. I just learned about this this week and I'm pretty flabbergasted by it and I rarely get to use flabbergasted in a sentence, so I'm going to take that as a win. What I've been reading is a syndrome called aphantasia. Is that ringing any bells? No, not for me.

So this states that 30 to 50% of the population has no inner monologue like it's just i don't know if it's like the monkey banging the symbols in there or whatnot but like stating that again and there's been a bunch of threads on this and i'm i'm finding some papers on it but i'm just thinking that when you look at the catch rate for those that, you know, took the vaccine, gave it to their kids, whatever was required. I'm just wondering, like, if you think that would kind of track with that. I mean, again, I can't imagine not having an inner model. Well, I'm reading what you're looking at. It's a real thing.

This was something that came out of the 19th century. It's actually, if I'm talking about the same thing he's talking about, I actually have friends who like, we're up in our 30s and then we have conversations and I come to realize through the conversation that they don't imagine like when they're adding two plus two equals four,

they're not imagining actual numbers in their head and doing it. They're just going through the motions of it. But that also goes across like, they actually can't imagine like faces of people. They can't imagine and put themselves into like imaginary scenarios because they don't actually have this inner voice that they're talking. And I don't even realize a lot of times that I have an inner voice constantly talking. It's a constant narrative that's going on because it just seems so normal.

But some people, they don't do that at all. They don't understand what that means. And it's pretty clear that it's not just a narrative. It's a kind of thinking, right? I've got to read more about this. And this doesn't surprise me at all, Winston. I've come upon, here's the one thing, if you want to know one thing I've learned

working in a psychiatric hospital for 35 years that you can bank on, this one thing. Are you ready? You ready, Winston? Hit me. Never assume that somebody else's brain works like yours does. Never make that assumption. The brains work in all kinds of different ways.

What's going on in people's brains are vastly different one from the other. And do not make the assumption that it is healthy, that it is reasonable, that it is rational. There's a million different variations. This aphantasia is one variant. There are many others. And then let's also remember, and I humbly say this, that the intelligence curves are bell curves. We sit on two sigma on either side of that. There's a people a lot smarter than me and the people not as smart at me. That's just the way it is. That's in our brain system. It's in our biology, not to diminish anybody on either side of it, but you may be asking more of people than they can deliver. Well, that's where I'm really coming to. And I mean, at 42, just learning about the aphantasia thing,

it's kind of rocked the fabric of my reality because my inner monologue is incessant. Yeah. Just so you know, I know mine's kind of like that too. I've got family members that are like that. It's not necessarily good. It can be a problem. I'm telling you it's a problem.

Aviva, go ahead. No, I was going to say, I would be curious if there's any correlation between aphantasia, whatever this is called, and the increased prescription of certain drugs for the mind. SSRIs. It would be interesting to see if SSRIs. It's more complicated. I can tell you for sure it's more complicated than that. People, we put way too much faith in thinking in this country, way too much. Thinking is under the influence of many different motivational and mood and

biological processes. It oftentimes cannot be trusted. And sometimes you can be trained, if you're trained in the scientific method and things like that, where you're trained as a discipline to not trust your thinking and apply a particular technique that gets around that sometimes. And we have already been discussing all this day, today, how biased that becomes. But sometimes you can rely on your thinking, provided that you do it with a jaundiced eye and care. Oh, Winston. And there's so many different, mean one of my favorite einstein quotes is if you judge a goldfish by its ability to climb a tree it'll think it's like it'll spend

its life thinking itself stupid so there's a right broad spectrum of no that's exactly that's exactly the point that's why you should never you should never be pejorative i want to say this loud and clear you shouldn't be pejorative by low or high IQ, mood or whatever the mechanism, addiction, not addiction. These things all served evolutionary functions at one time and have strengths and weaknesses associated with them to this day. So please, everybody, do not think pejoratively, even though everybody's brain works differently. Don't think pejoratively, even though everybody's brain works differently, don't think pejoratively about those differences. I just look at the aphantasia from

the compliance standpoint, because I saw people that I would have considered to be, by all metrics, intelligent people. They educated at great universities, blah, blah, blah. But they were just lockstep when told what to do. And I would love to find something that, the correlation between the two.

Well, we'll kind of watch. We'll see if there's something going on down there. I'm bringing up Joanna here and I'm going to let Viva give that thought. And I want to ask Caleb. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, it actually, when I hear that word, it almost freaks me out because as a person a person that that hears not like it's not like hearing voices it's just that ongoing mental imagery constantly i know i got it whenever i need someone who didn't have that it's like and you know it's i think it's only like five or ten

percent of people have it's it's it's i i would urge you to realize it's it's more of a spectrum me thing that there's a whole spectrum of stuff going on here. But it's not like it affected their empathy. Did you get that video I sent? Yeah. Did you get that video? Yes. Can we watch it?

I can play like the first 30 seconds of it. Yeah, yeah. That's all I need. Just for 30 seconds after we talk to Joanna. We'll play it then. Joanna, go ahead. Hi, Dr. Drew. I just wanted to speak to something that I think we need healing on.

Yes. Is that my relationship with my doctor, my medical doctor, my relationship, I have a psychiatrist, you know, and a therapist, but that they lied to us. And they lied. And like in California, it's like, it's legislated that they lied to us. And it's like, we need this healing, like on a on a national level like how do we trust the medical professional well this is a major I know it's a major issue it's a major issue and I that is what dr. Victor and I talk about all the time it's one of our gravest concerns is not only what are you going to do to rebuild the trust with your primary caretaker and I would say the vast majority of physicians are caring,

well-trained, just want to do right by you and their patients. Please try to build those relationships one-on-one. Somehow we're going to have to get the public health system sort of called to heal maybe, or somehow to the World Health Organization. Oh, maybe Caleb, you want to put up that headline I sent you from the Post? Did you see this today from the World Health Organization? They can't stop. They can't stop with the fear-mongering. There we go. Next pandemic, even deadlier than COVID, is coming.

World Health Organization. That is disgusting. It was disgusting three years ago when they pulled this crap. That is even more disgusting now. Don't fall for it. Do not fall for that. And I don't want to be hubristic. I'm not saying that there's no possibility of a terrible pandemic of course there is but that that does not

help it's even worse than that and i it's worse than that because um once you appreciate also that some of the numbers might have been fudged that some of the deaths might have been um uh exaggerated specifically for the purposes of financial gain and other reasons. It's not to say that it didn't happen because some people will mischaracterize it as that, but once you know that they labeled one motorcycle accident as a COVID death

and one stage four brain cancer of a teenager as a COVID death, they've done it more than once. And we don't even know how deadly it was in any objective sense, and yet they're already quanta, they're piling on the initial death. They've done it more than once. And we don't even know how deadly it was in any objective sense. And yet they're already quantum. They're piling on the initial line. And I will tell you that it's not conscious lying necessarily. You've never filled out a death certificate. I've filled out hundreds and hundreds. And the way they're filled out is anachronistic. It is highly bureaucratized. It's a disaster. It's almost impossible in a death certificate to describe actually clinically how

somebody died. Because if I say patient died of aspiration pneumonia, right, you will get that death certificate back from the health department going, no, it's going to be a coroner's case. First of all, you want to do that to the family. You want to keep this person in the coroner's office for a month, come up with something else, come up with something else is usually with, then it's like, well, what did they actually die of? Well, the one thing that they actually died of is their heart stop. Okay. Cardiac arrest due to pulmonary arrest. Okay. Great. Uh, due to, uh, you know, a shock, there was a shock involved. So they were in septic shock. And then you can put associated with aspiration pneumonia, even though what they died of with aspiration pneumonia.

If you've never filled out a death certificate, you cannot imagine how distorted our end-of-life data is. And I'm sure, who knows, COVID, obviously there was a push to move towards putting COVID prominently because they kept the hospitals open. I actually defended it at the time. How else do we keep the hospitals open? The only thing in there is COVID. And if they're not being reimbursed for it, we're going to have a much, much, much bigger problem. So what is actually in that data? I have no idea because we distort it all the time. That's how you get to people die of heart. Is the heart the major killer? Yeah.

Because the public health department makes you put down cardiopulmonary arrest at the top of the death certificate because that's approximately what everybody dies of. Isn't that crazy? Well, it's crazy. Here's another crazy one. Go ahead. What's another crazy one. Yeah.

Go ahead. What's what? I want to watch the... Go ahead, finish. Yeah, no, crazier is now... Yeah, that's the back. Coming out of Quebec now is the excess mortality and how they're going to attribute those deaths.

I mean, it's true. Once you can do whatever you want, you can include whatever you want if you need to, and you can exclude whatever you want if you need to. And at the end of the day, the trust and the healing, there has to be consequences first, but not for the people who just,

you know, not for the weak people. There has to be consequences and a rendering of account for the people. By the way, by the way, no, no class, no,

no time spent in residency teaching how to fill out a desk certificate. It doesn't exist. So anyway, let's watch 30 seconds of this video. We're going to kind of wrap up with this video because I think it will help clear our palate. It will help us understand from whence we have come and how much better things are. Caleb, let's play what you can play at this. We want to make sure that people can discern the truth from the misinformation. And we want to make sure that

everyone understands that no one's safe till everyone's safe. No one is safe. No one is safe. No one is safe. No one is safe. No one is safe. Nobody's safe. No one is safe. Nobody is safe. This is a post 9-11 axiom. Safer but not yet safe. No one is safe. No one is safe. No one is safe. No one is safe from COVID-19 until everyone is safe. If the whole world isn't safe, none of us are safe. No one is safe. No one is safe. Nobody is19 until everyone is safe. If the whole world isn't safe, none of us are safe. No one is safe. No one is safe. Nobody is safe.

Until we're all safe. Health experts have been... Isn't that insane? That's just that particular little aphorism. That video goes on for 12 minutes, and they do the vaccines. They do everything in the video, all the crazy things that were said over and over and over again. My only problem with those types of compilations is sometimes they get things in there that don't belong by accident. Like there was a, in that died suddenly documentary, there was a montage of people collapsing on air.

And some of them predated COVID. For anybody who knew, there was one of a basketball player had nothing to do with COVID. And so I'm always reluctant when I see those things to immediately click share. I feel compelled to verify everything in as much as possible. But it's known. I mean, this syndicated news will run the same messaging. And if anybody thinks that this doesn't look like

an Operation Mockingbird-type narrative event, that's because you don't know what Operation Mockingbird is, was, and will continue to be. I will look that up. I appreciate the calls. I appreciate you, sir. It's always fun to talk to you. You've clarified some stuff for me. I'm still formulating all my opinions. I'm still, you know, I like, for instance, I, you know, I do think the vaccine, I think it interrupted the Alpha and Delta outbreak in ways that we don't really understand yet. It probably did do some good. The question is at what cost and what age groups. And these are really the things that kind of need to be analyzed. I've been vaccinating my elderly patients straight on through, and it's been a good outcome. It's gone well. So I always trust

my clinical impressions more than just about anything else. What's that, your last thoughts here? Oh, I won't venture my thoughts on the jibby jab because I don't want to be accused of anything, but I've known more people who have had serious adverse reactions from the jab than I know at all from COVID, and not anecdotal. Some who are actually embarrassed to tell me

because they thought I would weaponize it. Yes, well, I'm going to bring in somebody, a friend of mine that had a terrible vaccine reaction. I've seen a lot of bad vaccine reactions myself too. And I'm going to also bring in a group that's doing research on how to deal with these prolonged reactions to the vaccine. The fact that that's not a major issue of conversation is what's hurt. It hurts. It's really, that's like heartbreaking for the people that are having these reactions and we again the the risk reward in certain age groups is not that clear right now and particularly with omicron being as mild as it is and now they have the xvb.1.16

out there and they oh oh my god a new variant new variant is is mild maybe it's highly infectious but so are a lot of colds everybody the adverse reactions are even canada's now acknowledging like three and ten thousand or that's what was reported in 2021 it's it's obscene well it's and they're and they're still pushing it and they're still promoting it on a generation or on a bracket that was never at any meaningful risk from in the first place you had a governor of alberta step up up and actually issue an apology to everyone who lost their job for being on vaccine for losing it for being on vaccine.

Did you see that? I'm sure you saw that. Yeah. That's Danielle Smith. But then she had to apologize for her apology because, you know, people thought it was undermining other historical atrocities that she compared it to.

Can't do anything right these days. Well, let's leave it at that because I think that's a pretty accurate rendition of how I feel. Can't get no respect. Can't do anything right these days. But again, tell people where they should find you. Where do you want them to go? So Viva Fry on Rumble, VViva Fry on Twitter, vivabarneslaw.locals.com is our great community on Locals with Robert Barnes. And where else? That's it. If you Google my name, you'll find tons of stuff. Some of it's very funny.

Actually not law related. Back when the world was sane, you'll find tons of stuff. Some of it's very funny. Actually, not law-related. Back when the world was sane, I used to do fun stuff. I still do fun stuff. I like that. And hopefully, I want to come visit you. Where are you again? What city are you in? In Boca.

It's Drew, come. We'll go fishing. We'll go to the beach. Yeah. It's beautiful. It's your birthday, too, right? Oh, yeah. Happy birthday.

I've tweeted that, too. I'm so sorry to mention until now. Oh, don't worry about that. It's your birthday too right oh yeah happy birthday i've tweeted that too i'm so sorry to mention until now oh don't worry about that it's my birthday i got some steak from a local brazilian butcher called uh oh geez easy meats and we're gonna make a barbecue and tomorrow i'm going fishing nice uh with this i'm gonna post the links i'm gonna post stuff tomorrow but with with a world-renowned charter fisherman and i I better catch a fish. Your tendency towards fishermen, did you grow up in Nova Scotia or something? I thought you were an inland Canadian. I grew up with a dad.

I had to beg him to take me fishing, and now I have to beg my kids to go fishing because I think I've pushed it too hard on the kids. But we'll see what experience they have tomorrow on a boat. It'll be good. Great. All right, my friend. Good to talk to you.

Hopefully we can get you back in there i whatever it is i you you can find me here and i'll find you there and we'll figure something out awesome thank you very much all right and for everyone else has put the upcoming schedule there it is simona tiba with kelly in here tomorrow joe latipo uh the following week on may 31st the simul hot truck again these are all the kelly shows scheduled now for June 7th. And Tom Rents is coming back, the attorney who mentioned things like the fact that the EcoHealth Alliance and Peter

Daszak may have been a counter-espionage operation, which was something that is the only thing I could figure out that could justify what the National Institute of Health was doing. And now he's saying maybe that is so. And I want to give a shout out to our sponsors.

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and that we're moving forward. So, on the right side of history. Well, hope so. I mean, again, I want to be very careful with being overly confident and hubristic and overly judgmental. I want to understand other points of view. And my goodness, we've all- Great guests the last two days, though. Great guests. Share if you care.

We've all learned a lot and continue to learn. I'll see you- Thank you, Emily. With Kelly in here, Dr. Atiba tomorrow. Also, we may drop in on what's going on with Elon Musk's Twitter spaces tomorrow towards the end of our show. Or come on here and tell us what you heard. Yeah, that's another way to do it. We're going to kind of go back and forth a little bit. I mean, it'll be there

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